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/ic/ is getting too negative and depressing. Let's make a thread where we encourage each other and share tips and tricks. Good vibes only, motherfuckers. WE'RE ALL GONNA MAKE IT!
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>>3771957
>Needing a circlejerk thread to receive asspats and be immersed in a hugbox environment from Anonymous dickgirl urethra penetrating artists with x ray drawings of sperm frolicking inside the bulging nutsack
Not. Gonna. Make it.
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>>3771959
You sure took your time with that post Anon! Good job! Now draw with that much enthusiasm.
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>>3771957
If you wanted good vibes, you should have posted a better artist for inspiration as OP pic, retard.
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>>3771959
fpbp

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Welcome to the Dynamic Sketching Group!
Discord for those interested: https://discord.gg/hUBMYmx
This week: Line control, ellipses, 3D shapes and organic form
This week class: https://youtu.be/m9_A6i595wM
Post all your works for feedback and general motivation!
This week homework:
2 pages of lines and ellipses (I suggest doing these everyday)
1 pages of textures
3 pages of contoured organic shapes (experiment, try intersections and treat it as a puzzle)
2 pages of rendered organic shapes with focal point, texture, core shadow and cast shadow.

PS: this is my first time doing something like this so recommendation on how to compose the OP would be appreciated.
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>>3771640
>>3771626
Painters literally trace projector images, who gives a shit if you ctrl+z or erase
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>>3771686
Do whatever the fuck you want, if you don't wanna follow this method of learning then just don't lol
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>>3771693
well you're fucking right thanks
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UPDATE:
heres the DS1 for anyone who wants to go through it before going in DS2: https://mega.nz/#F!whAg2QYD!S6X1smoI1lMNulQmvrMRbQ
Bonus dynamic bible:
https://mega.nz/#F!CF9g3QpD!Mc41x88vBi1afeoBWxcp-A

Schedule planned so far: this week and next will be a refresher of the fundamentals of DS1: lines, ellipses, 3D shapes, forms intersections, organic shapes, texture and focal points. You can go in any order you like. The plan is to head into plants with a visit to the arboretum starting mid next week so we can start DS2 week 2 the week after that. Have fun yall and post your works here or in the work channel in the discord!
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>>3771965
Damn this is dope thanks alot anon

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is dynamic sketching the only thing you need to become pro? that's basically all KJG uses
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>>3771803
You're wrong because you're misconstruing a bunch of shit that KJG has said because you don't seem to understand what the hell drawing is to begin with.
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>>3771840
I smell a 10 year old who likes to argue.
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>>3771840
Tell him how he is wrong dipshit or you are just >>3771842
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>>3771801
Thanks for the info, I appreciate that.
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>>3770171
>any construction is loomis
opinion discarded
he didn't invent boxes you fucking retard

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Is this good art?
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>>3770812
That's probably it, I recognize his helmet now
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>>3770152
Berserk is amazing piece of work the amount of detail that's put into and panels and spreads for a manga alone are amazing.
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>>3770152
back when miura didn't worship a single game and let it's moe style influence his art
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It's great comic art and Kentaro Miura is a prodigy of some sort if that's to be said. He accomplished this inking style on the left at the tender age of 10. Something most people probably couldn't do ever really.
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>>3770548
the human body is retarded.
Sometimes it can be killed with a single punch, others, can survive being cutedt in half

do you even want to interact with other artists, or do you just want to keep it all online? guess it refers to people in general.

doubt I would feel comfortable at a con or something
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>>3769274
It's way more comfortable to interact with artists in person. The only exception I've found to this is finding friends on iscribble, which doesn't exist anymore. Though you can make friends at alternatives like anondraw. /ic/ is the last place I'd look for wanting to interact.

The vast majority of my interactions on here are garbage because it's 4chan and full of children who just want to take out their aggression on others anonymously and it has very little to do with anything constructive, real friendship is practically out of the question.

but since I'm here anyway I'm obviously a loner and more likely than not mentally ill. Despite that, my advice is actually pretty solid I think.
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>>3771174
This is an experience I've had too but moreso with say watercolor classes. Figure drawing sessions, mmm, in a college you might be allowed to pay to sit in on a class, there you'll meet serious artists for sure. Second years and onward they are not only serious but decently good at least in my limited experience. There is possibly some really good serious artists doing life drawing sessions outside of the college setting, I'm sure there are, how to find them, not as sure. But yah, nice post and I back up with you >>3771174
said as something worth reading.
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>>3771880
*back up WHAT you said, typo
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Art friends can be nice, but I’d suggest making sure that your relationship isn’t based 100% around art. Most of the friends I have irl that are artists are ones I became friends with outside of art, I feel like if you put art first it’s harder for the friendship to progress (at least from my experience). Art tends to be a very personal thing, so it’s nice to know the person first.
Ps: I’ve only ever been 3 very small cons, and each time I’ve felt pretty uncomfortable so take what I say with a grain of salt. Most of the people I tend to see there aren’t ones I’d be friends with. Unless you’re into some guy in a Naruto costume who smells like expired McD lecturing you about how Swiord Art Online is amazing then maybe stick to people in your school art class or local artist collectives.
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Most have been very short and don't really go anywhere, just exchanging "I like your stuff!" Few have become more than that and it has been good. A lot of artists tend to be dramatic which is weird to me.

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So this is the power of schools like CalArts.
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>>3766019
Nazees dindu nuffin
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>>3763857
Cronencraftian?
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This art makes me want to burn a pride flag
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>>3756211
Can you Post examples of normie Art Style?
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>>3770863
Chris Evans checks pretty much everything made by female fans.
He also expends a lot of time passively checking social media, so chances are he already saw those pics.

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Oil, Acrylic or Watercolor?

From that video:
>Oil
>+Patrician blendability
>-Long drying time
>-Expensive
>-Requires chemicals
>-Said chemicals like to set themselves on fire if stored improperly

>Acrylic
>+Inexpensive
>+Non-toxic
>+Fast drying time
>+Can create texture

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Watercolor
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>>3771536

thanks a lot !
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>>3771542
Fair enough.

>>3771685
Seconding Carder's channel. His approach isn't the only one, but it's a great way to get started with a small palette. Really demystified basic color mixing for me.

There is a lot of misinformation about oil painting out there.
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Really love watercolor, but I also want to try oils.
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>>3771536
There are a lot of other options for mediums and solvents. I’m liking oleo gel and gambsol rn. Caveat for linseed oil, it heats up as it oxidizes so it can cause soaked rags to spontaneously combust.

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Artist:
>You need to respect my time and effort. I will charge more you more than minimum wage for my art or $100 for a half assed sketch

Also

>Artists draws like a 12 year old/ deviantart tier.

LOL
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>>3769228
I do this and it's fucking great. I love telling people to fuck off when they want me to draw some retarded deviantart-tier male OC. Sorry dude. Sameface anime girls or fuck off
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>>3769217
What's the problem here? As long as someone's paying, I can do whatever I want. Do you enjoy being told to draw things you don't like to draw? I sure as hell don't. This isn't a job that I depend on, so I can tell people to suck my dick if I don't like what they're commissioning me to draw.
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>>3769217
>ask artist at some convention to draw me a Crab girl in a nazi outfit
>says no, doesn't even look up at me
>walk away

She reported me to staff and asked for them to perma-ban me. Staff sided with me because I volunteer from time to time.

I got a kek out of it, she could have taken $20 from me for a shitty 40-60 minute drawing.
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>>3771614
Now this is what autism looks like.
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>>3771614
Why a crab girl?

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How do I draw like this?
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>>3770739
Chances are good if someone is professional mangaka tier they'd be too tired to prove it to every single person who asked on /ic/. It would never end. I know that I would believe good advice if I read it, even without having to see that persons art. I wouldn't need to doubt it if I understood what they were talking about. And to be honest, even if they were a terrible artist or not an artist at all, if the advice sounded good/right, and made sense to me, I'd still listen to it. I can use non-artists to point out things that don't look right. It might be harder to figure out how to fix what they're saying, or to translate what they say into practical fixes/steps but it's still valuable. But hey, that's me.
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>>3771896
>Chances are good if someone is professional mangaka tier they'd be too tired to prove it to every single person who asked on /ic/.
Yes, but pro mangaka can also do rought sketches very fast, yet you can feel their level throgh those sketches. So it doesn't take that much time. I mean hell, 15 mn might be enough to prove stuff
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>>3771942
Come on, let's be honest here. I'm 100% sure that a rough sketch from a pro would still get crapped on by someone on /ic/. I can't imagine it going any other way. I've never seen anyone on here, EVER say, 'oh, I was wrong you really are good' even when the person actually was.

If that ever happened it would blow my mind. Be honest, do you expect that on here? I don't. I don't think anyone who has been on here for longer than a day would.
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>>3771942
Also, 15 minutes might not be a long time to you, but uploading every single time you speak? I call bull. Good advice is good advice. The artist will know if the advice is good or not. It's none of anyone else's business. They're just bossing people around and butting in on a conversation they weren't a part of.
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I see that not a single faggot on /ic/ can help with this because most of them can’t be bothered to draw anything that’s not perfectly still and balanced, so until one shows up that actually can I’ll give it a try.

If you want to draw movement then learning about how to animate is very helpful, it teaches you about how to portray movement which you can use even in still drawings.

A very useful book to learn about this is the Animators Survival Kit. Go read it. It will help.

Probably one of the most important things is line of action. You might already have learnt about it in gesture drawings but you can also use the line of action to convey not just the feeling of a pose but also movement. You can manipulate the line of action to exaggerate movement, make it feel stiff or loose and so on.
Also important is balance. You need to know how a motion affects the characters balance, how a character loses or regains balance when they run, fall, jump, etc.. Running for example is a series of controlled falls, you need to understand is as such to properly convey the movement.

There’s still a lot more like Keyposes and smears, but that’s most of my limited knowledge. I’m not really good at explaining this, so it’s really better for you to go read the book.

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Be specific if you request something: post the cover, book's title, artist's name...
Please be patient, board is slow, someone may answer you a week later.
Please search in the thread and links below before asking for something, it may well already be there.
All MEGA links SHOULD be cloned, they die every time they're posted here.
If any of the links expires or breaks, please inform of it.
Can't find something? check vk, rutracker, ehentai, cgpeers, etc

> Beginner essentials
https://mega.nz/#F!sSYAxKqb!f2gWy-eQZJNvRfiUTu1ASA
See https://pastebin.com/riFtG6n0 for details

> Main Book Links
http://pastebin.com/VG8dcWcf
Artbooks:
http://www.mediafire.com/folder/17axpf4d7k05u/artbooks#myfiles

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>>3768670
Thanks anon
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>>3771175
>Can't find something? check vk, rutracker, ehentai, cgpeers, etc
>vk

WHY DO YOU THINK WE PASTED THAT SHIT ON THE FUCKING STICKY YOU FUCK
BECAUSE KATERINA USED TO FUCKING CHANGE FORUMS TO POST HER ARTBOOK THREADS SO IT'S SAFER TO JUST HAVE PEOPLE SEARCH FOR ARTBOOKS AND THEY'LL EVENTUALLY GO INTO KATERINA'S PIRATE THREAD.

FUCKING MORON YOU THOUGHT YOU'RE THE FIRST GUY SEEING THAT LINK IN THIS PIRACY THREADS
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>>3771175
>didn't read op post
ngmi
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>>3759754
thank you :)
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>>3771560
you left your caps lock on m8 lol

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previous thread >>3757319


What is /ALT/?
If you're looking for a place to post your cartooning then you've found the right general. This is /ic/s 1st and only merged hub where both Eastern and Western stylization can coexist peacefully, hence the double title. However, by community demand and long history, this is favorably an Anime general.
>Rules & Guidelines
(1) Any form of cartooning is welcome; so submit and receive feedback from others. (2) Please resize your images before posting. (3) Share your knowledge and (4) Remember to not be afraid of asking for critique. Most importantly I encourage you to keep discussion at a civil level, but you're more than welcome to share your opinions.
>I came for anime. Why does the image OP say cartoons general?
To distinguish from the anime study thread (janitor supported). Please post your studies there and personal work goes here.
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>Community Resources
Hitokaku Index
>http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~zm5s-nkmr/
List of active livestreams
>Use twitch #art

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>>3770554
wtf have I walked into
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>>3771472
Thanks for the feedback, it sounds like my original are too saturated so I toned down the saturation and some of the values.

Although it certainly bothers me how it looks so different on my phone compared to my laptop. I even shelled out extra for the laptop with IPS screen, yet my final work always look desaturated on my laptop compared to phone.
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>>3771261
t-thank you anon
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Hi /ic/, been busy playing games lately so didn't draw much.
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>>3771590
One of the problem you're having is the lack of contrasts.
All you have is on the blue/green side, use samey colors is fine but too much will make it less appealing and bland.
And because of the lack of contrast, it too strong on the eye.
Glad to see you keep grinding anon.
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>>3770134
Yes it was. Is it that obvious? Crumb is one of the reasons I'm trying my hand at drawing.
Here's another one I did.

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>post what you're looking for in your ideal art friend/s (gender, age, activity time/timezone, skill level, sfw or nsfw art)

also share a bit about yourself, style, inspirations, goals, interests, hobbies, etc.

A perfect match is highly unlikely ofc, just a rough introduction is fine so that the other anons can get the general idea about you.
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>>3771442
What is her contcat info, mate?
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>>3771333

I suppose the 20+ years of drawing lends more credit than getting paid. I'll give you that.

Also, lol at that non-answer. I'm actually disappointed you didn't at least try to justify your absurdist claims.
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>>3771595
>I suppose the 20+ years of drawing lends more credit than getting paid. I'll give you that.
and you assume that's a good thing in your case.. phew

hm all was already answered from the start though, any further discussion is just redundancy. You're just looking for a way to not confront yourself, and being buddy buddy with someone like that would just be like lying. But that's just me
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>>3771672

I didn't say whether it was good or bad. Just that your assumption that I have no experience was wrong.

>all was already answered from the start though

No. You made a false claim and have still yet to justify it. Even the most base simpleton can see the relation between illustration, comics and graphic design.
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>>3771375

Thanks Anon

What role does your politics play in your art?
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Quite a bit. Everything, every part of my personality plays a role in the work I create.
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None at the moment. I don’t have a lot to say via art, even though politically I’m a very opinionated person. I’ve thought about doing political cartoons once or twice but by the time I’ve sat down to draw, the joke got old and the hate wouldn’t be worth it. I don’t want to be a political cartoonist anyway, why would I want to keep my finger on the pulse of politics just to churn out art that becomes irrelevant as soon as another controversy/gaffe comes up?
I suppose that the story I’m writing has political elements in it? But not terribly explicit. Showing how the Viet Cong and communists in general are murderous bastards would be as explicit as I have planned, but it’s part of my protag’s backstory. I guess there’s a criticism of media and the sensational press too. But nothing too partisan, at least, nothing that SHOULD be partisan.
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>>3761495
>You’re in a cult
Classic. Ignore the creepy chanting and shit coming from left wing protests.
>repeat after me, flock
And they think that they’re individualists, that they’re really brave in what they’re doing. Sorry but consensus culture is neither charitable or brave, your political stance is free and comes at no social or personal cost.
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>>3761504
>trans tarot
>thinking that gender archetypes in tarot literally represent gender for people irl
>what is symbolism
>what are archetypes
For fucks sake these people need to read some Jung and realize you don’t need to become the opposite sex or found a new gender just to become more masculine or feminine and live an authentic life. As he puts it, the most masculine man has a feminine soul and vice versa. Fuck. Me. Is there anything they haven’t perverted
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>>3771597
>Classic. Ignore the creepy chanting and shit coming from left wing protests.
whataboutism. Why is it that you determine what you think is acceptable behavior for you and your "side" by seeking out crazy examples of what "le other side" does?

Like how exactly do you think cults function? It's ALL about propping up an Other to radicalize and agitate against. Why do you think all of the media you consume is endlessly focused on finding the most irrational, hysterical retards to highlight and circlejerk about?

Like you're being actively targeted by corporations and foreign agencies that have an interest in seeing your life get worse, but hey those corporations and foreign agencies showed you a video of some "creepy chanting" coming from the other side so obviously you should let the fear that is being cultivated in you determine what you support. Do you ever really think critically about WHY you support the people you do, other than out of spite for the villians they make you care about?
>And they think that they’re individualists
Yeah those boogiemen I'm conditioned to reflexively think about and act against are sheep! NPCs!
> that they’re really brave in what they’re doing
Do you think that being scared of libruls and shilling for exxon is something brave people do? How much of the shit you support is because of fear? That chanting is creepy! Muslims are scary! We gotta build a wall to keep out all the scawy mexican rapists!
> Sorry but consensus culture is neither charitable or brave,
But you support the party in power. You support the people that control everything.
>your political stance is free and comes at no social or personal cost.
Then why shill for Exxon? Why shill for your own quality of life going down and cost of life going up? Why do you want to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on healthcare

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Name a worse hobby than learning to draw
>Don't have talent then get ready to waste years of your life trying to get gud at something no one cares about
>Only way to get paid is either being born with elite drawing skills or making weird porn for patreon money
>Having a art style that isn't realistic or van Gogh gets you called a faggot
>Not a real career
>Degree for it worthless and pointless when you can learn shit off the internet
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>>3771114
All things many of us have struggled with or thought about I'm sure. But there are many worse hobbies. People waste their time doing all sorts of things. Drawing is at least brain-activity. It's not watching tv. Not saying watching tv is necessarily worse but hey. Doing heroine for example is a worse hobby. There are lots of worse hobbies. Just take a breather, and um, I guess try to enjoy the process.

I always found if I'm obsessed with a specific goal, like, 'I must draw as good as God-teir artists or it's all worth nothing' or a worse goal, 'I must make money at my art or it's not worth doing' or 'I must be recognized as good or I'm not enjoying myself' then, all those kind of goals sort of ruin the act of making art.

Keep your goals simple and more direct, is my advice, like, 'I'm gonna try to make something that looks good to me' or if you're really really good at controlling your inner self, 'I'm going to learn to enjoy DOING art, regardless of how it turns out' if you can do that, you've got it made.
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>>3771141
>do I fit in yet?
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>>3771325
Nope ur actually retarded.

"Actively studying" "grinding"

You say 6 years and imply you dedicated yourself to practice and can't draw a face still. What that actually translates is an over exaggeration of your time spent.

Imagine studying anything for 6 years and not even being remotely good at it.

You know what that means? You haven't been learning.
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>>3771908
>If you didn't learn it's because you didn't actually study!
I'm so fucking tired of this gaslighting shit. Believe what you want.
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I support >>3771918. I'm sick of gaslighting too. I wish /ic/ was divorced from 4chan. I'm just as tired as you with all the kids who come here just to get off on bullying people anonymously. Maybe their parents are bullying them, but even still, they aren't going to get better by turning around and doing the same thing to others. It doesn't work.

There are kinder, more adult ways of expressing the same thing.

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Draw Art Daily

Last thread: >>3755161

Site
>Link: https://dad.gallery/
>Backup just in case: http://last-artist-standing.herokuapp.com/

Rules
>Submit your artwork everyday (or your preferred frequency)
>The deadline for submissions is 23:59:59 GMT each day
>You should spend at least 30 minutes on each update
>Miss a day and you'll be alright, just keep going
>Have fun


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>>3771977
Which girl do we make leave next thread lads?
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>>3771980
Any soi boy.
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>>3771917
the discord has been around for like 2 and a half years, and no one did any weird shit in that time, it's just this weird susi orbiter from the threads
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>>3771977
>record time
Who else 'members the 1000+post threads
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>>3771992
me, but everyone is in the discords now




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