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This is a thread for /beg/s and /int/s (there is no /adv/) to share and discuss art.
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>>7146911
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>>7146922
Idk, I'm not sure how to color or render things.
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Overconfident warrior gets hexed with a fertility venus transformation -ᆺ-
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I dug up something I drew a while ago and colored it for a bit. Kinda feel like I haven’t improved in the 2 years since I drew it. I wish I could spend more time drawing instead of worrying about work and life.

Hey, just quickly wanted to ask if anyone knows How artgerm does his backgrounds? It seems like some aren't drawn, especially the one in Pic related. Like in Pic related case, is it just a screenshot from the game that he photobashed? Just need some confirmation, thanks guys.
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>>7147195
So even if we pretend that your opinion holds water, which it could cause art is subjective, Why are both Genzoman and artgerm successful despite them having some artworks with BG's that are "photobashed & half baked"
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>>7147230
NTA but it's because they pushed for it and people got used to it.
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>>7147243
That and despite it, they are still good at rendering the people they draw. Art Germs traditional work he posts have the plain white back grounds and look just as good. Its a little cheat vs cheating the whole piece.

Besides. Manga artist litterally take photos of japan to put in their manga after editing.
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>>7147230
Success is not equivalent to quality.
Why is Fifty Shades of Grey so successful if writing shitty fan fiction is so bad? Clearly shitty fan fiction is the way forward.
I get that you want to defend your heroes, but no one is above criticism. Photobashing backgrounds into an otherwise good drawing is like smearing chromatic aberration filters all over a game: even if the underlining idea is great, even if the drawing is good, the very presence of the filter lessens the impact of everything.

https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=murata_range&pid=252

Look at this for instance. He does both white void and backgrounds in pin ups. When he does backgrounds, he makes an effort to integrate everything, even when working from photos and reference. He unifies the background with the characters, has them interacting with it some way. In those cases where it's not necessary (when he wants the focus entirely on the girl,) he omits backgrounds entirely or simply puts in a basic prop.

It is not necessary or even desirable to always have a background. It's even less desirable to choose the half in half out approach where you lazily stitch some blurred photograph into the background for "atmosphere." All it is is an expression of laziness and insecurity. Commit to the background fully and put an equal amount of time into it, or leave it out entirely.
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>>7147254
Has nothing to do with me wanting to "defend my heroes" dude, and I'm quite aware that no one is above criticism. But what I'm asking is, what makes them so successful if it isn't the shitty backgrounds? To me it's the Character art and rendering that got him success

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>Mediocre artist
>Has made millions
How did he do it?
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>>7147234
That's hardly a summary, that's just the opening pitch, a back of the book blurb.
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>>7147108
>if that picrel is actually the same character.
It's the same character.
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>>7147094
>You could be an expert artist and novelist but if your art and writing don't have appeal, nobody will give a shit.
I didn't believe in appeal till I saw Dave Rapoza fanart of Super Meat Boy, that shit is ugly.
The original is simple, geometric and appealing.
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>>7147094
>The audience can excuse mediocre art and writing, as long as there is...
>A P P E A L
Undertale pixel art is terrible, but the characters appeal to autistic children so it's popular.
Even Loomis talk about appeal in his books.
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>>7147178
>Why is this board so jealous?
Most comments here are defending the mediocre artist success.

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Is it a requirement to have a youtube channel if you want to be a freelance artist in this day and age?
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>>7147171
You need all the thing. The idea is to cast a wide net.
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>>7147176
what if i hate my voice? どうしよう。。。
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>>7147183
it can't be helped.
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>>7147171
you need a great pair of tits, you're gonna shake it around across all platforms.
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yeah baby

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been seeing some weird conversation about Hatsune miku being "underaged" (like 16) yet i see people drawing her like an adult. i too want to draw her with an adult figure, and couldn't even tell she was "underaged".

is she actually underage? shes a fucking android lol
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>>7146784
WHO the fuck CARES.

Seriously.

Who the fuck cares?
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>>7146784
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0ejfn175kyI
She's 16 forever because she isn't human.
Either way she's fictional so fuck off OP.
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>>7147090
Your government.
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>>7146784
it's fiction and can be anything you want
this anon sums it up >>7146854
start the push back! don't get why everyone suddenly started to cater to vegan libtard moralfags.
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>>7146784
Not a big deal

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Previous thread: >>7139876

>Link: https://dad.gallery
>Discord: You must have a DAD streak of at least 14 to join. Ask Vastian for an invite.
>Found an issue with the site? Lost your streak and want to appeal? Please message the contact link at the bottom of the site instead of posting in the thread.

Rules:
>Draw every day (or your preferred frequency)
>Submit your work by 23:59:59 GMT
>Spend at least 30 minutes on each submission
>No loli or shota porn
>Miss a day and you'll be alright, just keep going!
>Maintain your streak and you too can become the LAST ARTIST STANDING!!
>Have fun!


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>>7147136
Putting a topic off for later is fine, just be careful that you don't develop super strong habits and muscle memory that'll become a nightmare to replace if you ever decide to move on.
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>>7147204
yeah it's a bit annoying to change style all of a sudden but i've done it about a dozen times in my life so i might have an easier start. eventually i want to have something closer to reality than what i have right now. just need to look at more human faces. might be sooner than i made it sound in the original post
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Bet he will start drawing bara in a few weeks
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>>7147270
who
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>>7147276
me :)

>creator is an actual NPC if actually can’t use imagination (he’s lying for clout)
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are you okay

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Hi /ic/
Can you criticize my silent comic
I still an amateur and developing my skills, practicing every day despite my busy university scheduleand your advices and criticism is really important for me because it's direct and real (not sugar coated like the one's I got from my peers)
Thank you
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>>7144167
PYW
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>>7145405
NGMI!!!
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I'll echo what some of the other anons are saying in that the flow of panels is hard to discern as for the "story" aspect of it, it's a bit on the nose for an anti-war story.
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>>7145481
OP is a fag and can't even draw
If he can as he says
I challenge him to draw a nekomusume even just the face

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Do some people here genuinely hate anime/japanese art in general or are they just trolling/fishing for guaranteed replies?

I've seen people claim "Japs never made anything worthwhile", "Why should I consume *random rec* when there's a better western alternative to it?", etc. more than once in various west vs. east threads
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>>7143804
They hatewatch
I always see woketard angry because show is sexist, characters are underage, etc
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Diverse ideas are traded back and forth, resulting in even greater works being created. The Japanese artists that were inspired by the West went on to inspire the West in turn.

The fundamental problem with modern anime is that it's too Japanese in a bad way. New works are becoming increasingly derivative versions of older anime. It's a side effect of the otaku problem that Miyazaki discusses. The Western influence on anime is at an all-time low, and anime has suffered for it.
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>>7147028
Yeah, the western influence is at all time low because the west has produced nothing but mountains of garbage in the woke era and the japs (and every other sane nation) have largely rejected it.
You are right though, anime is more inbred and self-referential than ever these days, not that I've watched or read or engaged with anime made after 2002.
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>>7143862
I agree with you for the most part, but I do think it's short sighted to assume that even comedy, satire or far out fiction doesn't also influence or enhance pre-existing behaviors.
I'm not a leftist or a progressive by any means, but I think that everything we see, hear and experience ultimately does exist in a kind of self-reinforcing feedback loop due to the nature of the world.
The problem we're seeing now with things like the ages of fictional characters being debated is more of a social meta problem now due to the fact that each generation has been more cocooned from reality than the last.
Young people have nothing else to hang onto OTHER than fictional characters, and so they develop deranged attachments to them. That itself means that these characters and the 'idea of consent' IS tied to fiction as "worth fighting for in reality," because the current culture has been infantilized.

The nature of the feedback loop has changed. We need more stories that examine the reality/fiction dichtomy themselves, more messages about why fictional characters don't matter and aren't real. Nobody is leading that charge, so the negative behaviors (like identifying as characters as real people and not accepting fiction as fiction,) are bubbling up more and more.

We're in an era now when depicting cartoon characters 'incorrectly' can get a person fired or sent to jail. The feedback loop is absolutely enhancing negative behavior, just not the kind that progressives think it is.

Ideally we'd need mirror of reality fiction that shows why it's wrong to cancel people over drawings, or why it's idiotic to 'respect the rights' of a cartoon character, but we'll probably never see such a thing. This next generation of artists is so ideologically compromised I fully suspect at some point they'll start giving nsfw artists the death sentence. These maniac 'progressives' are the ones who are about to inherit the world.
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>>7143545
i dont mind anime. i hate their fucking stories and japanese mannerisms and quirks that are just stuck to japan as a whole. thats actual cringe and i dont know how people stomach that shit and go "yeah this is kino"

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If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. Please stop replying to crabs, nodraws and howies and instead focus on posted works!

>STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>WHERE to get study materials
annas-archive.org
>>>/ic/artbook
>>>/ic/video

>Want to practice figures?
quickposes.com

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>>7147161
Naturally you should try imitating the Strive art style now. Grind those anatomy and body proportions.
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>>7147258
cool
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I guess she's going through a trap door into an attic? Anyways, you seem to have issues with the legs, it looks ok other than that. Hope it helps.
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>>7147220
his arm holding the bat is a bit too short. His torso also might be a bit too small but that also just be a stylization thing, not necessarily a flaw

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When making master copies, is it a problem if the artist one chooses draws in an extremely stylised manner?
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>>7147095
it's not if you know what master studies are even for
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>>7147105
Not OP but is the proper way to go about it to construct everything?
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>>7147235
the proper way is to do it is as the original artist did down to the material if you’re being technical. you should research the artist’s process and working methods as well as the specific work you’re copying. you’re trying to pick up their methods and techniques rather than reverse engineering their style so follow any process videos they share. if you work digital try following a speedpaint as closely as possible. the approach is generally to emulate the original process so that you can refine your own work and process, including injecting your style with the techniques and traits you would like to develop with

I've been trying to look for some good art servers but all of them are weird. Does anyone know any good ones?
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get good enough to get invited into a good one
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There's nothing more demoralizing than meeting talkative nodraws in art discords, every /ic/ discord I've looked in has had this problem.
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>>7147173
JOIN TV CHAN
https://discord.com/invite/ySeGUG69
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>>7147191
le postu your slopu
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>>7147173
>Never join a ic discord that doesn't gatekeep itself to hell
Most of these heavily gatekept servers are filled with mediocre dumbasses acting like pros. Information goes in circles, everything is circle jerked to hell. No one is going to be honest enough and tell you how horrible your work is because it's a very closed community and you expect whatever you say to be reciprocated.

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Why you should not trust youtube shills:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH1WEYF8rlA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twy5Wo8m284

Do not read anything into pressure levels. 1024 is more than enough.
If you have any additional questions, ask them.
Remember to ignore all chinese shills.

Recommended tablets:

>Screenless:
Intuos 3, 4, 5, Pro, One by Wacom

>Display:
Small (10-11"): Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 Lite

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>>7146756
>https://estore.wacom.com/en-de/wacom-movink-13-dth135k0b.html?irclickid=wVnyQJQCHxyPWjx3fE3in3jRUkHT370JNSxySQ0&irgwc=1
pros:
-pro pen 3, with 3 buttons (this is lightyears better than apple pencil)

cons:
-slippery screen with anti-glare layer (compared to etched glass on pro cintiq with minimal parallax), reportedly doesn't feel like paper AND antiglare film nulifies any benefits of OLED
-tiny display that isn't much better than ipp, so that limits UI elements it can hold, making it useful at best for doodles and insignificant projects
-non-portable
-cintiq 16 is almost the same price but bigger display

the only real upside i see is the pro pen 3 integration.
owning intuos 4 large and IPP, i'd rather upgrade to cintiq pro lineup, even 17 at a crazy price would be better, but i'm happy with what i have
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>>7146905
>Yeah but my shitty XPen doesn't either. I ended up purchasing the kwamvas pro, 6 months, apparently it has no parallax but we'll see.
It's not really parallax either. I'd more call it wrong tilt. You'd expect that when you tilt your pen the cursor stays at the point where the nib touches the surface.
This is however not how the hardware works because the coil is somewhere inside the pen. What would be needed is simple trigonometry that moves the cursor forward according to the length of the nib and the angle of tilt.
For some reason chink drivers do not to that, so it's not really parallax (which is related to the thickness of the glass) oh and all tablets have it to some extent.
That includes modern laminated displays where the glass directly touches the lcd that effect however is minuscule compared to the "wrong tilt"
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>>7121776
retard put layer of transparent of paper like shit on screen. did not re-calibrate his pen and wonders why does it not work anymore..
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>>7134312
https://www.idealo.co.uk/compare/203060568/samsung-galaxy-tab-s9-outdoor-cover.html
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>>7147242
you can also fake the pressure and ruler test with trad
oh and also btfo multiple times

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>What's a webtoon?
Webtoon is the ancient Korean art of scrolling comics. Instead of traditional manga/comic pages, panels are spread out individually for easier reading on cell phones.

>So they're just spliced manga/comic pages?
You can do that if you want, but they're fundamentally different for a few reasons. For example, panels tend to be drawn longer to fit phone screens, and traditional 2-page spreads are not possible to fit in scrolling format.

>Are there standard page sizes?
Technically yes, but it depends on which platform you post in. Naver Webtoons uses
800x1280px, but the site automatically splices & resizes images anyway.

>Do I have to make it in color?
If you want subscribers, yes.

>Why would I make one?
To be rich & famous, of course. All jokes aside, the pay is low if you're lucky enough to get hired in the first place, the deadlines are more brutal than the manga industry, and the average reader age floats around 11. But as a novel medium with a growing industry, it may still be worthwhile enough for you to experiment.

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>>7123638
I had a similar concept to Cosmic Crush, except's more western and Invader Zim inspired.

This is Zac, he's an intergalactic scout. Claims he's a zoologist/ecologist of sorts to the MC. He's a huge coward and just wants to smoke space weed and eat Earth foods.
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Also posting an old line-up I want to re-do. I'm more interested in the aliens than the humans, I think I want to remake the entire human cast.
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bmp
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>>7142873
>emperor dritz
This guy is taller than the IZ’s tallest.
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>>7147203
Dude’s literally taller than a lot of multistory buildings

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>when in doubt black it out
Well thanks alot assholes, so helpful, wow.
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>>7147206
I blacked out your mom alright
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>>7147208
heh
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>>7147206
Nice picture of a dark room OP, I'm glad our advice helped you out.
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>>7147216
It is supposed to be the wolwerine fighting the hulk
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>>7147206
Nice picture of wolwerine fighting the hulk in a dark room OP, I'm glad our advice helped you out


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