I've been trying to look for some good art servers but all of them are weird. Does anyone know any good ones?
Just join ones involving your niche. In my niche plenty of artists host their own and same goes for the fans of the niche too
>>7147096>nicheWhat, like pixel art? Or like getting vored by giantesses?
>>7147121Whatever your art subject is. People and artists sharing the subject are more likely to make interesting and beneficial community
Never let begs and underagers (<25) into your art discord server, all it takes is one or two and it's fucking over.
>>7147153 no actually, it can be hard to find people with the same or higher level of skill. its all justrubber bumper tablet kids
Never join a ic discord that doesn't gatekeep itself to hell and back and allows schizos from here mod or particpate in it.
get good enough to get invited into a good one
There's nothing more demoralizing than meeting talkative nodraws in art discords, every /ic/ discord I've looked in has had this problem.
>>7147173JOIN TV CHANhttps://discord.com/invite/ySeGUG69
>>7147191le postu your slopu
>>7147173>Never join a ic discord that doesn't gatekeep itself to hellMost of these heavily gatekept servers are filled with mediocre dumbasses acting like pros. Information goes in circles, everything is circle jerked to hell. No one is going to be honest enough and tell you how horrible your work is because it's a very closed community and you expect whatever you say to be reciprocated.
>>7147205He's right though, can't tell you how many times I have seen one of you faggots ranting about some culture war shit only to search their image post-history and find that they haven't drawn in about a good 4 months. Nodraws are a fucking blight to /ic/ artservers.
>>7147091Cool guys and gals (CGAG), I left the server but I'm sure some anons here got a link.
>>7147091asg discord is good and relatively schizo free + has drawers discord com/invite/AkCKzpHVNS
can I get a violet clovers invite pls?
>>7147121>Getting vored by giantessThat one please
>>7147091mine is perfect, because its a closed private invite only for people i personally know. you should try it
If an /ic/ server doesn't demand that you post artwork to get in then chances are it's full of schizos and people who don't draw
>>7147706Yeah, but we don't want to be the only person in our server, like with yours.
>>7147718that does not filter shitters anon
>>7147789it does if you dont let them in if they cant draw
>>7147779i know it sounds like fantasy but gatekeeping actually works, just look at israel
>>7147789it filters most of them, the rest can get filtered when they get fucking annoying
>>7147789It is when you also kick for long term inactivity. If you haven't drawn in 3 months you serve no purpose to a discord. Kick the slopfags and nodraw and keep the people who do work.
>>7147789You'd be surprised, I mod a server and the amount of schizos that come in and immediately leave once they realize they have to put in effort is astonishing. Only had a few incidents and it was immediately taken care of once they got in since retards can't help but act like retards.
>>7147789Filters 90% of them>>7148320>schizos that come in and immediately leave once they realize they have to put in effortThis, the same thing goes for the drawing threads here, if it needs actual input, they won't touch it with a 10ft pole
>>7148320>>7148330Same with my server, crazy to see that 65% of anons who enter straight up leave when meant with the crazy reality that they have to draw to stay there.
>>7148478Gatekeeping is wrong. You don’t have to draw to be an artist.
>>7147194okay i join :]
>>7149509do something about it then
>>7149535Like what?
>join /ic/ server>nervous /beg/>get a stern dm from the admin that i need to post 'finished pieces'>post them >get another stern dm that my pieces were sloppy and not finished >"it didn't seem as if they had any effort put into them">too embarrassed to them what i posted took me a few hoursdon't know if all of them are like that but kek
>>7149559Which one was that?
>>7149564dwai. the people within seemed nice thoughever, i just guess they were /int/ orientated. maybe i'll try hopping back in after a year (the general's always up here) if i've improved significantly
>>7149555figure it out, stop expecting others to do things for you ffs
>>7149559stop being a nervous beg and draw more
>>7149566dun with a iencil?
>>7149559Sounds like they didnt want to babysit some begshitter that couldn't be arsed to finish their drawings. This post says a lot about you/
>>7149738Drawing With Artificial Intelligence. It’s just a bunch of “prompt engineers.”
>>7149559Have you just tried not being bad at art?
>>7147091define 'weird'
>>7150128Groomers and faggots.
>>7147091a lot of artists have their own discord. maybe they will ask u to join if u become friends with them
>>7150123Yeah. Not a huge loss for me anyway since it's just a hobby. The rest of my life is perfect.
>>7149743you know nothing about me and my physical conditions preventing me from drawing. I probably put more effort into one of my drawings than you ever have in your entire life combined.
>>7150200>my physical conditions preventing me from drawingThis one paraplegic artist drew with his mouth
>>7150212His art
>>7150200you know nothing about me and my physical conditions and my mental conditions and my environmental conditions and my political conditions and financial conditions preventing me from drawing. I probably put more effort into one of my drawings than you have in your entire genealogy combined.
>>7150213There's tons of these examples.Say what you will about the Chinese, but their citizens hold prime examples of individuals who work with what they're given in life.
You are making the discord reach incredible levels of general strokes to accomodate your emotions with wanting it to be "good".Good for what?Good for posting your art? You can do that in any serverGood for growing your own fanbase?If what you want is instant engagement in everything you post, and you fail to do that on twitter/insta, you shouldn't beg Discords to give you an instant fanbase because you don't deserve itGood for advice on your drawings? Well that will depend on your work. Are you just starting drawing and need general advice on everything, or are you posting commission level finished pieces and you need advice or critique at that level? those require two different types of users.Do you want just friendly chat and you draw like shit, and maybe know some people or get your OC's to interact with other people's OCs? The drawing generals on various boards here would fit that perfectly"I want a good discord" just tells me you shouldn't deserve to get inside the discord you need, because you don't even know what you want.
>>7150198>>7150200Which one is it?
>>7150337The truth.
>>7147091The /aco/ cords used to be good but coommissions has slowed down to a crawl and ocaco is outright dead.
>>7150224Fuck China btw
>>7150119>Drawing With Artificial Intelligence.Lmao Kek. That means everyone in that server is technically worse than you.
I'm cooking a server that's gonna be only for high intermediate level artists at the very least, the real deal. I have to prepare some stuff before I can really announce it, but if you're interested in having a place with consistent art challenges, drawing sessions, heavy gatekeeping and no shitters, look forward to an announcement in the next couple months.
>>7150782>high intermediate-level artistsMods and owner needs to be this well, nothing is more worthless than a server ran by low int/begs insisting that others need to be /high int/
>>7150794>Mods and owner needs to be this well, nothing is more worthless than a server ran by low int/begs insisting that others need to be /high int/Absolutely. When I said I need to prepare some stuff, a big part of it are promotional images that reflect my own paintings skills, so you know whether I'm the real deal myself. As for mods, I will vet them carefully so that they can match the appropriate skill level and overall vision for the server. I have experience running art servers, but I'd like to make something that I could call "next level". All of my knowledge, skill and experience put into this one special place. I'm really excited to share it once it's properly set up.
>>7150782>recruiting on ic>high intermediatedoubt.jpg
>>7150799Now I'm trying to discorage you but why lock out lower skilled /ints/ seems like the advantage skill ceiling is here anyway. Wouldn't they benefit most for shadowing people with more skills than themselves?
>>7151094What do you consider lower /int? Can you post an example?
>>7150799Cool. I'm not too big on discord but I'd be interested.
>>7147153>and underagers (<25) into your art discord server, all it takes is one or two and it's fucking over.so much thismy art-discord (connected to my Patreon) is fucking over.pre 25lvl ironic twitter zoomers are so fucking annoying.Sometimes i even don't create any post or don't share stuff i want to share because i 100% know one of those retards will be negative/start whining.Holy shit that was a huge mistake. I seriously want to delete discord.Paid patreon members also started to post less often - we just talk like previously - on patreon threads.fuck discords. I wish forums still were a thing
>>7151110The problem is that you dumb fucks don't have a strong grip on your servers, so retards make themselves at home thinking they can do whatever they want. It really boils down to you not caring enough and then complaining that suddenly you have a shithole on your hands, that's what happens to every place that isn't properly moderated and taken care of.Also I'm old and I know what forums were like, in some ways they were better for sure, but they were even worse when it comes to cliques and other cancer, let's not forget about that
>>7151118found a retarded zoomer
>>7151102Going to a random general I think these are candidates for low /int/ >>7148671>>7057097 >>7123476 it's not on the of social media heavy hitters in any stretch by you also wouldn't have to hand hold people at this level either.
>>7151118>The problem is that you dumb fucks don't have a strong grip on your servers, so retards make themselves at home thinking they can do whatever they want. It really boils down to you not caring enough and then complaining that suddenly you have a shithole on your hands, that's what happens to every place that isn't properly moderated and taken care of.Couldnt said it better myself. If you are the type to create a servers then expect to be inactive as an owner then don't bother.
>>7150782Please make it a white-only server so we can keep the 3rd world sociopaths out.
>>7150782>>7151152Ban /pol/fags on site. They never draw.
>>7151172very true
can someone give me an example of how int you have to be get into violet clovers ? you can use a post from any current general to demonstrate
>>7150782>>7150799if you are who i think you are, then im definitely interested. ill be monitoring these threads
>>7147121>giantess voreOne of my giantess servers was the best in terms of feedback and just chill people to talk to.
>>7147091any good furry discords?asking for a friend...
>>7151178
>>7147593wheres the link...
>>7151530Here you go https://landing.bromonetwork.com/tgp1?ad_id=176_rev&ats=eyJhIjoxNzYsImMiOjMxMzMzLCJuIjoyMywicyI6MjIzLCJlIjo3NDcsInAiOjJ9
invite me to Sacred Band of Thebes, pleasewattomo.Wattomo#0607or any other discord that is the real deal.
>>7151178Where's the invite posted? I bet I can get in
>>7149509>You don’t have to draw to be an artist.not surprised that decent discords want to filter people like you
>>7150325What an arrogant low-calories nonsense post. Probably impresses people on Reddit, though.A good discord is one where artists come together to grow together - many of the points you mention are nonsensical for an art discord (growing a fanbase etc - why join an art discord for that?). No need to spell it out.
>>7151172Only if you ban all politics.
This one is good https://discord.com/invite/Njd82nqx
>>7151561That's the faggot way out.>make political channel>tell people to debate their shit world views there, anything outside there will be deleted and repeat offenders will be banned>leftards can't tolerate dissent so they leave, rightards don't sperg out when there's no leftards to bait them so they peacefully shut up on their own>????>PROFIT!
>>7151626>Server owner is named nigger>there is a dedicated incel channelFUCK YOU AND YOUR /CO/FAG GARBAGE
>>7151626>/hyw/ Everything wrong with 4chan art servers in a nutshell. >ran by permabeg attention whore named who thinks mass pinning to bitch about inane shit is funny>One mod is a known /ic/schizo (GREEN), >discord drama completely destroyed threads for years on end (some fag got swatted and several people got doxxed over petty shit>can't shut the fuck up about culture war shit, the actual finished rate of webcomics is embarrassing low (3/105)>discord has been split into serveral secret clubs because the home discord such a shithole>adverage skill level is mid /beg/ >zero focus on improving artskills just putting out low effort comic as you stagnate and even regress from constantly making lazy comingsI can go on and on but its easlier to just look at the sheer amount of nodraw shit in there general goes down there. https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/143362446/#q143362446
>>7151626Okey I join :-)I'll invite my webcomic friend too
>>7151636Imagine needing a dedicated nodraw channel to whine about culture war shit in the first fucking place? It will never shut down either since you fags will seethe constantly about the latest ugly black character in insert video game as you avoid drawing.
what are the servers pawell king is on
>>7151207Art-focused and skill-drivenhttps://discord.gg/9j8JCCY2Chill and more off-topic/generalhttps://discord.gg/Nhy9TzF6Warning: furries
>>7151728FUCK YOU FOR POSTING FURRY SERVERS
wtf is violet clovers? i keep hearing about it, is it just some secret cabal of high level artists that gatekeep well? how do they get more people?
>>7151914>secret cabal of high level artistsIt is not secret if everyone heard about it, and not really exclusive or high level. Just relatively big and old and somewhat /ic/ adjacent. /ic/ people mention it because they are was or in it.
>Too nervous to talk because everyone knows each other and I feel like an outsider >Also feel insecure sharing my stuff because it's not as good as the rest
>>7152241i'm sure I made this post but i don't remember posting it
>>7152247Great minds think alike
>>7152241I’m jealous of those who can lead a conversation on voice. You know when everyone is there to hear that 1 guy talk.
>>7152241>>7152251As a internet extrovert i can tell you that If I'm leading a conversation I'm not really drawing when in VC/ texting. It's incredibly distracting to be mr. personality all the time.
>>7151728not joing that dogshit
>>7147091They're all upgrades compared to /ic/Even Anime Art Zone, Artist's Lounge, Weebville and Art Kitties
>>7150325what the fuck are you on about? you made a problem out of a normal question
>>7152623How can they be “upgrades?” Without anonymity they’ll just be faggy hugboxes where everyone is afraid to give genuine, harsh feedback like you get here. How about you all stop being little bitches?
>>7152695>Without anonymity they’ll just be faggy hugboxes where everyone is afraid to give genuine, harsh feedback like you get here. How about you all stop being little bitches?Translation:>Without anonymity I don't get to be a faggot retard and get away with the dumb shit I say
>>7152705As long as you’ve made peace with stagnating in your gay ass hugbox
>>7151728>https://discord.gg/Nhy9TzF6despite being furries, there are some legit good artists in this server.
>>7152834Yeah, but they’re all faggots.
>>7152841i already said that
>>7151728>>7152834>DO NOT SHARE ANY ART OR CONTENT THAT GOES AGAINST DISCORD'S TOS This includes rapeWell, I lasted 4 seconds on the server.
>>7152887Try not being a disgusting pervert, maybe? >>7152854You can be straight and furry. Like the ones who like Maid Marion.
>>7152898>The character on this pic DID NOT gave concent!!!!!Maybe you should fucking neck yourself, you have brain damage
>>7152887Yeah, I only draw rape, too.Real bummer of a fetish to have. I feel sorry for the pedos honestly, this was never a choice.
>>7152925if ironic, this applies:>>7152914
>>7152695>>7152768I'm sure your 1000 folded loomis heads are all the rage on /ic/
>>7152695>i cant give genuine critiques without being an asshole, and i cant be an asshole unless im hiding behind anonimitystay on /ic/. you belong here.
>>7151118I also saved that pic the moment I saw it. Good taste.
>>7152898kys tranny or go beat it off to animals, you faggot.
>>7152695>Without anonymity they’ll just be faggy hugboxes where everyone is afraid to give genuine, harsh feedback like you get here.If your retarded ass could even get into a decent discord you'd realize that they are full of ints+ offering actual crit instead of having to sift through walls of nodraw seethe and gayops just to see a fucking picture.
no great server has been posted so fargive me more and maybe a good one will be among them
>>7152925nothing will happen that you don't choose
>>7153256Nobody wants slop posters in their good discords.
>>7153256youre scraping the bottom of the burger king dumpster for a michelin meal, you're never getting a good discord out of here and even if you did, it will implode within 3 weeks tops
>>7153277I didn't choose to be black.
>>7154054Have you considered stopping it?
Of course there are.https://discord.gg/YHhe39ryZQ
>>7155779You just made this server, didn't you?
>>7155781Looks like it at 14 people, but I can't blame him everyone in heres looking for an art server why not make one with the anons
Okay, we all know most art servers fucking suck. What do you think are the biggest problems with them and what do they need for you to consider them worth joining?
>>7156677They should embrace AI as a tool for drawing.
>>7156677not be from this shithole
>>7152241I'm gonna touch you shynigga
>>7156677They become social shitposting hives dominated by a clique of 15 people who chat all day instead of actually doing anythingalso they have 2202840204 channels
>>7152695The "/ic/ is insightful" meme died years ago.
How do you meet art pals who aren't permabegs? I don't have social media really but I'm getting to low Int level and want to start talking to people
Refusing to talk with begs is the artist equivalent of racism
>>7157478begs are cool, permabeg howies are infuriating
>>7157478I love begs who try, I hate begs that don't
>>7150213>Bring your persspective to your art>paralysed womanSorrowful painting in shades of blue about being shackled or detained from living your full life>paralysed manHot bitches with big tits... looking down instead of up
>>7156677Been a couple of years since I was in any /ic/ art servers, been in them since 2019 or so, seen servers come and go but here's some problems I witnessed before leaving>In the past it used to be mostly normal arnons wanting to draw but the normal to schizo ratio became worse and drove most of the normal people away just leaving incredibly obnoxious/weird people, some just very unhinged>Close to 95% of the people I first started drawing with gave up along the way, I know maybe 1 or 2 people that kept going and even then they didn't improve at a fast rate or only draw on and off>On top of that, it feels like I wasn't seeing many new joiners, just old faces or dead accounts>A problem for me in 2022-23 was there being too many servers with too few members to stay active.A lot of servers had overlap or the same members, with occasionally being a few different members who just didn't like the state of another server>Just general drama or people annoying eachother caused groups to split and form other cords for no real reason. This in turn leads to people remembering said people or having bad blood and they will probably shy away from joining future cords,>I see a lot of beginner artists or people just joining but as for artists who are a bit further along it feels like I don't see much of a community for them. You're either stuck with permabeg, genuine beginners, people who stopped growing, etc but once you move past that it feels difficult to find people on the same level. That's not me saying I'm amazing but it's nice to be with people who are atleast comfortable with some basic things. >People who are invested in art and are generally friendly or at least able to make friends tend to tuck themselves away in private cords and lock out new people unless they're vetted first or friends with someone else. In turn, these people stay with the same friendship group and seem to rarely venture outside of them
>>7157556This applies to 90% of 4chan servers, always have an atrocious schizo retard population to the point of being unsuable. Applies to all boards. If you want to get into an art community worth being in, you have to get half decent and post it somewhere, and interact with other artists in public first.
>>7157556And to further add on to this>Pandemic most likely caused an upswing in online activity so comparatively it feels more dead compared to then>A.I may have genuinely discouraged some people To have a good server I really think you only a few things1: A good sense of community. It should foster a community first otherwise it's useless. I know people complain about discords of people who just talk and dont draw but I've been in practically dead servers where maybe 1 or 2 people will post a drawing every now and then but that's it. 2: A common goal. I do think servers with people who have a common goal e.g create a comic/character deisgn/environment/concept/etc tend to have a more active community because that one thing unites them. It can be just "Improving at drawing" but most people are passionate about drawing different things and just having a fundies cord might not stir the passion in people.3: Active but hands off mods and good leadership. Basically mods only intervene if people are breaking T.O.S but other than that, leave them be. And having a good leader or at least a group of people very committed to the server and its ideals. Without this, the momentum can drop and people don't see much of a reason to contribute.
>>7157558I agree but I think it definitely got worse in the last 2 years. There used to at least be more normal or normal-ish people.
>>7157171okay. but /ic/ is insightful. most people are just too pussy to appreciate it.
>>7158061Every time I've gotten crabbed here, there was at least a grain of truth in the criticism. At times I would take offense (it's not a bad thing for an artist to have a strong ego), but when I looked back on it with more emotional distance, I could see what they were trying to say. Even begs and untrained laypeople will have useful insights about why your work isn't as successful as it might be, if you know how to listen judiciously.
>>7158129You’re just the beaten housewife.
>>7158143lol, simple explanation
>>7151728why do all of you post links that die after a day?
>>7151626repost link?
all of those servers suck just a bunch of sperging schizos