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did I do a good job fixing his pose?
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>>4167921
I'd kill myself if I was jealous of that garbage.
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I can see how you might think that's foreshortened, but nothing about those arms looks foreshortened. It just looks like you shrank them.
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>>4167899
your brain is foreshortened
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>>4167922
I doubt you could do better than OP
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>>4167959
look at the arm holding the book
the bicep is now facing off at ~45 degrees and so is the entire forearm, and the book is tilted down (bottom edge is shorter than top edge due to foreshortening)

I find it easier to get a grasp of where I want to go with my art stylistically when I think about stuff that inspires me that is less technically oriented. Post stuff that inspires you that other people might not think of as great art, but you love anyways. No standard old masters stuff or standard anime, please. Show us the less common stuff that inspires you.
I'll dump some bookplates, I think these are really beautiful and charming
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>>4164659
Fuck off already, I don't like furry shit, western cartoon shit, capeshit, and tumblrface shit but I have to look at your unappealing, meaningless and shitty art everyday.
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>>4164590
Egon Schiele shit

Why does /ic/ struggle with this?
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>>4162729
damn that haircut is stupid. shame they killed billy.
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>>4162751
If it were drawn in charcoal as fine art, you'd like it.
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>>4165848
Using a grid to copy a photo is just tracing. What the point? OP great bait thread. You nailed the topic.
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>>4162758
Never trust a weeb avatar.
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>>4165870
No, it's not crab. With using a grid you still have to maintain proportions, sort out foreshortening, and do all the work you would otherwise. Tracing is creating. Gridding has been used by even the old masters, albeit from their own sketches.

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whys everyone always asking "will i make it" and not "how will i make it"
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"Making it" is a meme
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>>4166780
my bad didn't read all the responses.
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>>4164091
If you have to ask how, you're ngmi.
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>>4164091
If they spent less time asking that question & more working towards that goal, they would probably have more chances of making it...
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>>4164136
Fall Out Soi

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what are the best tutorials/courses to learn how to rotate figures in space?
I know about Krenz and the other asian guy which name I forgot (not KJG), but I dont aknow about any other.
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>>4167255
>the other asian guy which name I forgot (not KJG)
Need source on this other asian guy
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Anon: draw rotating boxes in space to get a feeling of rotating form in 3D space
/ic: lol drawing boxes is waste of time

Anon:how to draw rotating FIGURE in space
/ic: that is some good excercise

You fucking plebs cant properly draw rotating box, yet you would like to draw rotaring figures...
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>>4167255
Why do these box rotations always use pivot points behind the box instead of within in the box? It can easily confuse people who don't understand perspective properly (the kind of people who are using these to learn).
It makes it into a lesson in drawing 35 feet within the same scene at different locations instead of rotating 1 foot 35 times on the same pivot point.
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>>4167768
It's way easier to imagine an object rotating around the perimeter of an imaginary circle or cylinder than whatever the fuck that is on the left. I mean just look at how much of a clusterfuck the even the aerial diagram is vs. the right which points in clear degreed directions.
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I heard /ic/ loves cubes.

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share best guy torsos looking for anatomy practice

feedback on quality of image also appreciated
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>>4167308
UnIronicly ladybonersgonewild is the best for the type of referance you want.
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If you wanna make money...
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>not being ripped and using yourself for reference
NGMI

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Post them.
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What is this drawing style called? It reminds me of magazines for young people in 90s.
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>>4165284
Skatewave. It evolved out of DIY art for skateboard decks
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this artstyle always reeks of undeveloped talent, look at any other artist that draws like this and you'll see they never actually become a better artist

Just make it unproportioned and do it one attempt and you could hash out a whole gallery of it iin a day
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>>4165284
It's the edgy and crude offshoot of the CalArts style inspired by Beavis and Butthead and Ed Roth. Christy Karacas is the one that started it I think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyXfKPTyoT0

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why do people who post photocopies on instagram always put the pencils on the side
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>>4165914
There are overhead cameras designed for it
or you can just mount a regular camera or webcam on a stand
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>>4163460
Obviously, to show you whats it's made with. I like to post pictures with a pencil or two (at most) beside the drawing if it's just a sketchbook sketch. What should be in question more is the purpose of photorealism like this. It isn't memorable as art. Even a self portrait with an atmospheric background would be better. If they aren't using tracing, it would be a far more constructive use of time.
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Am I the only one thinking "It's to show the size of the actual drawing?

It seemed to be the most logical answer to me.
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It's like taking a picture of the toilet bowl you just shat in with all of the food you ate to make it laid out around it.
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>>4163460
More importantly, why do they put their signature on something that is a copy of a photo they didn't take in the first place?

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How the hell do i improve?? I draw everyday with a goal in mind and always have motivation at the start until im midway into drawing where i realize how pointless whatever the fuck i am doing.

Here are my weakpoints
-standing positions, let alone dynamic poses
-i usually always do only shoulder up art
-bad shading as in i do not know where to put it, even with a lightsource.
-style keeps changing, like i can not recreate a style i did once ever.
-background(not important so dont focus on this too much.)
-style is always cartoonish under 400 followers on twitter like style which holds me back alot.

>I can send examples but right now i want to see your general critiques without observing anything
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>>4166506
>I can send examples but right now i want to see your general critiques without observing anything

We can't really give good critiques without knowing exactly what it is we are critiquing. You need to post your art if you want help.

The best I can do without an example is as follows:
>standing positions, let alone dynamic poses
>I usually always do only shoulder up art
You need to look at the general form of a person. You can study it from a book, or there are billions of guides like this on youtube. Get a feel for the flow of a body, the chest, the arms, legs, waist, everything.
>Bad shading
Are your drawings coloured or black and white? Guides on what to do depend greatly on this.
>Style keeps changing
Finding a style is one of the largest and most significant events in an artists career. You just need to keep drawing, anon. Eventually, you'll find your niche and you'll be able to replicate it.
>Background
The background depends entirely on where the piece is set (So post your fucking work) E.G. A starry sky, a brick wall, and rolling green hills all require different techniques. A general guide would be to use muted colours (compared to the focus of the piece) and make sure you are accounting for depth.

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here is one example
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>>4167638
Your lines look very rough. Maybe it's the tool you're using, but stop chicken scratching if it's not.
As for your original post, you should study references of what you're trying to do if you want to get better at it. If you want to learn how to draw more dynamic poses, find a reference and draw it by eye. Same for the body and shading.
Most style issues are caused by symbol drawing. Read the sticky and find a copy of Keys To Drawing.
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>>4167638
this has more soul than most of /alt/ and all of the anime study thread

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How much would you pay for this, if at all? I used a small statuette as reference. Size is A4.
Also, critique the shit out of it if you want, I don't mind.
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>>4166410
You're welcome.
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for something like a dnd game oc, probably $15-30 range.

not bad, op.
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>>4166544
That way more than I expected
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>>4166795
Well, considering is based on a figurine, I suspect it wouldn't look as good if it was made 100% by yourself alone (that meaning your mind)
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>>4167398
Yes, but the post is referring strictly to pic related as a singular piece, it's not to show the general skill.

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How did you guys find what you like to draw?
I admire anyone who is drawing/painting what he LOVES, not just grindind the theory.
So how does one find out what you like to draw? Did you just draw different things in different style with different mediums and see what works for you?
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find a subject you REALLY want to put on the canvas

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How do you tell if something is traced?

This is a very blatant example
https://www.instagram.com/johnmattaart/
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>>4167291
Robert Paulson.
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>>4167293
Link please. The name is too common.
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>>4165833
>ripping off a piece thats not even remotely good in the first place
Thats the real crime right here
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Excluding stylization and personal sense of achievement, the only difference between copying a photo and tracing it is your imperfections. If you were to perfectly copy a photo it would be absolutely indistinguishable from a trace.

So every single one of you who thinks copying is ok but tracing is wrong don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Copying is as bad as tracing, or tracing is fine.

And if you're stylizing a piece then it doesn't matter whether you trace a base or not, because the art is your stylization.

And finally, if your client's fine with it, that's all that matters.
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>>4167364
P Y W

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>Playlists/Podcasts/OST's

What are you listening to while drawing?
https://youtu.be/WH0x_Lz5Rfg
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>>4166309

for me, music increases my focus by 200%
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>>4166216
>What are you listening to while drawing?
reading, text to speak style
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>thought artsy anons would have good music taste or podcast recommendations
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Anything made by Jinsang
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSdYPkgCvtE&t=1385s
48 Laws of Power, God I love this voice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qxILrbanZQ&t=19661s
Beyond Good and Evil audiobook.
And Academy of Ideas podcast.
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>>4166216
Usually podcasts like mysterious universe

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There are stories, characters or scenes that honor other works... Whether movies, books, series, video games, etc... But you run the risk of being accused of plagiarism...

Then I wonder... What would be the proper way to pay homage without being accused of plagiarism?
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>>4164574
basically this
plagarize from all sources you find inspiring and turn it into something of your own. mix and match things you'd think would be cool
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>>4164572
You faggots are so creatively bankrupt. But hey, at least it's not another "Tracing is great" thread.
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>>4164572
You take a few elements, not the WHOLE thing.
If Polnareff looked 100% like Michel Polnareff, if Balrog looked 100% with Mike Tyson, if Donkey Kong looked 100% with King Kong,etc... The japs behind these characters would be in deep trouble.
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>>4164572
>There are stories, characters or scenes that honor other works..
only in Japan since they all see each other as mutuals and are honored when someone likes their creation as far as creating an homage of it.

meanwhile in the west they'd probably send a twitter lynch mob after you and you'd have 3 reddit posts made about you.


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