If you have gotten used to a different program, it takes time to learn a new program.

>>7903896
It has the most retarded, unintuitive brush and layer system of any drawing programs in human history.
t. used Corel Draw, Gimp, Photoshop, SAI, Clip Studio.

I tried it out coming from CSP after seeing anons shill it here but yeah, very irritating program. Feels like the devs are being different for the sake of being different, or at least pigheadedly insular, refusing to see how "it's done" where it counts.
Then I just went back to SAI and realized that's all I ever wanted. Just a program that lets me paint without having to fight it.

>>7903896
That would be fine if linux devs paid attention at all to the broader conventions of programs when they make them. Instead they seem to go out of their way to deliberately make things worse instead of doing things literally everyone else does.

It works both ways. To me, photoshop felt like a bloated unintuitive crap after using Krita for years.

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>>7903950
this is FOSS programs in a nutshell
GIMP is the same shit
loonixtards try to force their gay vision instead of giving us something we actually want to use

>>7904100
The program is old as shit and has its own workflow. Just cause you’ve gotten used to how another program works doesn’t make Krita bad.
Gimp is bad though, honestly.

Krita is just Gimp for trannies

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>>7904166
trvth nuke

In terms of quickness and ease of use - nothing compares to krita. You guys are probably retarded and lack the mental capacity to use hotkeys and the pop up palette. There is no comparison.

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>>7903887
Come home, anon.

>>7904100
I love Linux, but this is hilarious.

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>>7903887
works on my machine. That being said, whats up with all the consolewar tier faggotry surrounding drawing programs. I feel as if there aren't enough differences to justify this level of bickering.
>AIEEEEEEEE THIS SHORTCUT IS ON THIS KEY NOW I'M GONNA KILL EVERYONE THAT USES [insert art program here] BECAUSE OF THIS!!!!
just draw brah who cares, if you can draw with a pencil on paper you can draw using any software

>>7904288
The thing is, drawing digitally already sucks. It's like you need a NASA control panel to simulate 1/10th the power of pencil and pen on toothed paper. So if you make it even more unpleasant to use, yeah I'm going to notice, and bounce.

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>>7903887
i started digital drawing on krita and tried photoshop. it was absolute shit. whoa

>>7904288
It's not even a drawing program thing, all linux programs are like this. Windows sucks but at least there's the barest fucking consideration for UI/UX.

>>7904149
EVERY SINGLE art program uses an entirely different brush for an eraser

THE ONE critical feature and they do some STUPID shit, why?

i can guarantee with 100% certainty that the reason most people dont use Krita for drawing is precisely the eraser

100% of ALL other programs use one default button to switch to a default brush, Krita decides to use your SAME drawing brush to erase, what the fuck even is that???

>b-b-but just do this gay little workaround
NO

>>7904448
If you know what you're doing you don't need an eraser!

>>7904448
There should be a plugin that fixes that, I use one that lets me assign the brush and the eraser to two different keys instead of having to press the same key

>>7904491
There are multiple plugins that does this, you are just lazy.

>>7904503
>lazy
TYPICAL TROONIX RESPONSE
no one is spending hours fixing their distro just to barely have any time to work
we're trying to draw here not rewrite drivers for linux
just make your shit work like literally EVERY other program and when you DO make it work (on rare occasions), STOP making it so fucking unintuitive that nobody wants to use it even for fucking free

>>7904504
nta, not disagreeing with you and I hate it just as well, but the plugins are pretty straghtforward and easy to install in Krita, no need to mess around with the entire distro

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>>7904511
maybe ill look at it then
i actually liked how intuitive Krita felt but that eraser thing was a fucking dealbreaker for me

>>7904504
>no one is spending hours fixing their distro just to barely have any time to work

First off- nowadays you can just ask ai how to do something and follow the steps, it no longer takes hours to do anything.
Second you'll have to learn any program to get the maximum of what you want out of it.
Third you barely draw anyway, take some time out of your gooning and actually better yourself by facing some adversity instead of complaining like a fag about things that you can easily fix. Because it's too much work to flip your tablet pen to the the eraser part like an actual eraser or save in your favorites and press a button for the eraser.

I wouldn't know I use drawpile. Also FOSS.

>>7904522
Not that anon but these are not valid points. I don't feel like elaborating though.

>>7904522
absolute cope just like the "you're lazy" retard
i never had to do anything to "learn" ps or csp or pts or fa or literally any other drawing program because their core functionality is all the same, you learn one and you can basically use all of them unless you're doing something very specific
the eraser is not specific, it should work similarly on EVERY single program

average Krita experience
>get tired of csp
>"krita is free you should try!"
>"free?!" *downloads*
>opens krita "wow this is snappy!"
>sees interface "wow this is intuitive!"
>opens project "that easy? huh"
>tries brush "oh these defaults are nice"
>tries shortcut keys "oh, not bad at all"
>try to draw something "this is pretty good!"
>make mistake, try to erase "hmm, whats this?"
>needs to push down hard to erase "weird, let me increase brush size"
>erases all weird and shit "hmm, let me look online"
>loonixtard: "yea, we're fucking retarded so you have to rearrange your whole life to fit within our dumb fucking paradigm
>uninstalls krita
>goes back to csp

>>7904530
> YES, I'M RETARDED.

>>7904529
>i never had to do anything to "learn" ps or csp or pts or fa or literally any other drawing program because their core functionality is all the same

Really? I had to learn how to use photoshop after switching from GIMP while I was in Highschool. I really didn't have to learn anything about Krita except how to make clipping masks and the line tool (which if you'd like to complain about krita, the absolute idiocy of not letting you hold shift to put down a straight line or the retarded text tool is granted)
I've never had a problem with the eraser tool- in fact it benefits me because when I'm drawing I usually need to erase with more precision than the common eraser tool has and the tool I'm drawing with ususally does that job, other than that there are styles that requires you to erase in to get a certain effect. It's such a non issue compared to the obvious flaws krita has you're just being autistically retarded about MUH ERASER! EVERYONE ELSE IS DOING IT WHY ISN'T IT LIKE THAT?

Maybe because I've used these programs before they had dedicated eraser tools it doesn't bother me, but you grew up with it and as a privilege little bitch you want to cry about it. Why not just use the program you like then? Why bitch and moan and try to fuck it up for people who find the setting actually useful?

>>7904575
Holy shit I wrote a lot, my bad. too much caffeine, should've edited down.

Well what's the alternative to Krita then, if you don't draw tranime shit?

>>7904586
Krita IS the alternative. The only and best one. Don't be fooled by these assholes. Krita is lightweight, free, bullet proof, fully customizable. You don't need any other drawing software. As long as you are not a Mac user.

>>7904592
>As long as you are not a Mac user
What about it?

>>7904597
Ipad users have many cool drawing apps to be honest. Krita doesn't have a macOS version yet.

PYW

>>7903887
fake news propaganda
works perfect on my machine

>>7904599
> Krita doesn't have a macOS version yet.
I got introduced to Krita by my ex who used exclusively an apple laptop macs are a unix based OS which is very similar to Linux so a lot are easily transferable.

>>7904504
>no one is spending hours fixing their distro just to barely have any time to work
I don't, I use vanilla everything it just works
>>7904504
>we're trying to draw here not rewrite drivers for linux
you dont have to, stick to wacom or huion
>just make your shit work like literally EVERY other program and when you DO make it work
it works, your complains are about workflow, if you find ps or csp fits yours better then use those. drawing, painting, editing, compositing all those scenarios have a different concepts of what eraser means.

>>7904586
CSP is still good even if you aren't interested in anime. The brush engine, while laggy at times, is still better than Photoshop by a mile.
Sai is good if you want something lightweight and focused. It lacks a lot of features that other programs have, but it's also more focused on drawing/painting.
GIMP is basically free photoshop, and Photogimp remodels the UI so it's less stupid.
I haven't tried Rebelle or Corel Painter, but the results look good. I'd like to try them at some point but it's hard to justify the price of a digital program to look like traditional media when i could just use traditional media.

>>7904620
Does Photoshop suck or something, since you're not suggesting it?

>>7904625
the majority of people still use photoshop there are people who still use cs6 nowadays
It's perfectly fine (ignoring adobe being pure cancer of course)

>>7904625
Sort of. Adobe's shit is all bloated, but it works. It's not really ideal for drawing/painting since it's a photo editing program primarily, and there's little reason to pay Adobe's faglord subscription when you can get the same functionality for free.

>>7904625
Photoshop's great - there's a shit ton of features, brushes, and tricks that Photoshop does that other programs can't - if you need to do smthn special with Photoshop you will most likely be able to google a tutorial easily. Just make sure to download old versions to lessen the bloat if all you need for it is drawing, the program is practically the same across all versions, but later ones have AI bloat.
But you'd be doing it wrong if you sub for it or get a new version - just get GIMP at that point.

>>7904625
Are you living under a rock? Didn't you hear the news? Adobe is FUCK.
Several recent scandals led the company to a massive drop out in their user base. Adobe is now on trial for phishing malware and very serious scam policies in their subscription plans.
Basically they unilaterally decided that all of their products are legally authorized to function as "big data resources" for their AI technology. Whatever you do on "their" software is not private or personal, but sub products of their technology. The catch is the subscription system, you can't "buy" the product anymore, it only works under a subscription model, so you're "leasing" the tool, and legally you don't own what you produce on Adobe software, so they are allowed to go into your personal work and scout resources. They need this model to keep the software going online for the data collecting update in their data centers. And if that isn't fucked up enough, they also went for your whole milk shake, forcing you to sign a TOS that allow them to charge you an irrational EXTRA amount of money if you decide to unsubscribe to the monthly payments. Which is what criminal companies usually do in other businesses like Tel-comms services. Adobe just became a Batman-Villain cartoon tier suddenly after some Jeet became CEO of the company.
The reason because it all went to shit with the US justice is because the American Government discovered that the company was going into their federal documents under this new "legalized phishing policy" of Adobe software. So the American federal government itself sued Adobe.
No one in his right mind will use an Adobe product ever again, or atleast till this whole mess gets cleared up. And even then, I wouldn't touch and Adobe software not even with a ten foot pole.

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>>7903887
I really don't get the hate.
I don't claim to be a software guru of any kind, but I've used Photoshop, paint tool SAI, Gimp, and Krita in a decent capacity and the only one I'd say is "painful to use" is Gimp.

Literally all it needs is a default eraser shortcut/tool instead of this gay niggery, but otherwise it's fine. CSP lets you put whatever the fuck you want as a tab under any tool which is nice, they should copy that but also let you assign the same subtool under multiple tools.

>>7904768
>I really don't get the hate
Because it is a FUCKING AMAZING software, and it is FREE.
Being free is the ultimate unforgivable "sin" in the rotten mind of the greedy criminal vultures like Adobe, they can't have that. So they send their jeet monkeys to smear the tool in every artistic site there is.

>>7904780
i dont understand this. i just flip my pen to the eraser side and it erases because ive set it to select an eraser brush when i draw on the eraser side. and when i draw on my 2 in 1, i select the eraser and erase what i want. I feel like this krita hate is a psyop especially since the new update.

well that sucks.

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>>7905012
No, YOU are the shills.
Nearly all of the people who try to use it don't like the default eraser shit but you keep fucking making excuse for why we have to get used to it.

There's nothing wrong with FOSS software. Fucking OBS Studio is the greatest fucking thing every created and made ALL screen recording software obsolete.

THAT is what GIMP could've done. THAT is what Krita could've done.

But you fucking loonixtards REFUSE to acknowledge your shitty design and blame EVERYONE ELSE for your fucking shit design.

It's retarded. No one asked for you to change basic shit up. Change other shit, not this. The goddamn eraser >>7904780 is literally the ONLY reason I don't use it. It's the fucking eraser. The eraser is literally the only reason I use digital at all instead of traditional and they FUCK IT UP. And instead of giving us a workaround that changes it to default, other users have to make gay-ass plugins for it.

This is simply negligence.

>>7905245
The reason why eraser is the way it is, is because it's an elegant solution, in the sense that it does not introduce a new special "edge-case" mode, but rather makes erasing just a "backwards" mode of the brush. It feels fairly satisfying when you can figure out how to structure a new feature as a combination or natural continuation of existing features, rather than coming up with a brand new global mode that replaces your brush with an eraser. It's almost like using brute force to solve something instead of using a proper algorithm.

>>7903887
ur mom is painful to use

>>7905245
FUCK YOU. Krita is perfect as it is. You Jeets just came up with some random "muh eraser" bullshit speech and run with it, in the hopes to make a dent in the program's stellar reputation.
The eraser is perfect I just press my personalized shortcut and whatever brush I'm using turns into eraser mode and it is like painting with the same brush in eraser mode. That's a CRUCIAL FEATURE for me, without that erasing option I would be mad as hell.
Everyone who uses and enjoys Krita already knows that the only feature that really needs improvement is the Text tool. You stupid jeet and your retarded "eraser" crap that it isn't even an issue at all, at least bitch about something that really exists like the text tool limitations.

>>7905258
LOL fucking brilliant! LMAO!

eraserfag cracks me up
like just erase bro its not that hard

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The funny thing is, I use that eraser-inversion thing in CSP, but I still remember being annoyed at Krita having it by default, because sometimes I do want a normal-ass eraser. It's a single shortcut to enable it in CSP on any brush of your choice.
I don't feel that strongly about that particular issue in a sense, but I think it reflects a deeper problem that the program is intuitive among a class or programs that are already unintuitive, and bloated.
For example, why is it this complicated to make a clipping layer in Krita? Why isn't it a single icon click like in virtually every other painting app I've tried?
I had to look this shit up to even find out how to do it. Crazy.

>>7905263
that the program is unintuitive*

>>7905263
Linux devs have strong "I'm not like other girls" energy and insist on doing things differently for the sake of it.
Honestly, there's the potential for greater customization instead of being stuck in the paradigm of old programs but linux devs just make it so you have to use their retarded way instead of being able to customize it to your liking. Absolute dogshit.

>>7905268
>you have to use their retarded way
Which is what eludes me about these people.
>>7905259
>>7905254
Isn't Loonix supposed to be about "choice"?
What if I don't want the default eraser? (Nobody does, lol.)
I should be able to change it.

This whole idea that you HAVE to switch your whole workflow or install third-party plugins just for it to work similarly to whatever you're used to is amusing. It's clearly shilling.

They simply don't want to admit it's bad design when the only reason Krita isn't replacing CSP is quite literally because of this. Yes, the lack of an Eraser tool is holding Krita back. All they need is the OPTION to be able to switch to whole different brush with 'E' like every other program and they're set.

The fact that they REFUSE to do this is telling. Why would I want to use software that forces me to use it in a way I don't want to use it? The fact that it's FOSS is especially ironic.

>>7905263
>I had to look this shit up to even find out how to do it. Crazy.
Oh wow, how "crazy". Give me a fucking break.

This faggot's coming from the most bloated software in history and he comes up with this silly "annoyance": "I had tho look ath the manual tho learn thish.. BOOHOO!". Crystal generation at its finest.

>>7905263
>why is it this complicated to make a clipping layer in Krita?
it's not, you're just retarded. the image you posted literally explained how to do it.

>>7905276
>Isn't Loonix supposed to be about "choice"?
Not necessarily, look at GNOME, it doesn't have the system tray, desktop icons and the minimize/maximize buttons by default. You can't enable the system tray without installing a third-party extension, meanwhile plenty of apps, close to the tray, so in stock GNOME once you close the window, the app keeps running, but you can't do anything about it and don't even know about it. Also we're now finally adopting immutable root file systems, so you can't change system files or install a desktop environment that isn't supported by the distro explicitly. It's not all about choice

What's the best art program if I want to draw within a limited range of only 800x600 pixels? Most brushes I use in modern programs look like a pixel in that resolution

>>7905245
>loonixtards REFUSE to acknowledge your shitty design

This is true. The linux community doesn't consider user experience in the way companies like Apple does, when a feature is missing or is clunky you'll probably hear some excuse about how it doesn't bother them. OBS is the exception not the rule and truthfully a for profit company will majority of the time always win over the FOSS because they're getting paid and keeping things private and often stealing from opensource projects... Your retarded diatribe about the eraser however is the dumbest shit I've ever heard.
>>7905276
>Isn't Loonix supposed to be about "choice"?
It is and it's why I use it, no other OS allows you to customize the way Linux does.
>What if I don't want the default eraser? (Nobody does, lol.) I should be able to change it.
Alright you retards made me do it. There's a setting called "set eraser toggle preset" basically it emulates the eraser side of the pen. It's okay if you're drawing with one brush, but if you decide to change brushes while on your eraser it will set that brush to be your new preset eraser. You can change the shortcut to "E" if it hurts so much to turn your pen.

If Krita is supposedly so bad, can you tell me what you think is the better alternative, especially for non-anime/manga-style artworks?

>>7905321
Read the thread

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>bind top pen button to right click
>favorite a good eraser brush
>press pen button and choose eraser brush
wow that was so hard maybe the problem was between the chair and computer all along.

I've been using krita for like 10 years now. I've tried every other program. Photoshop, clip studio, paint tool sai, GIMP, even some poojeet android slop like medibang. nothing compares to how fast you can do everything in krita. posting my work to prove im not just a bot like all these other posts berating krita are.

>>7905329
You're about to get roasted for this, just a heads up.

>>7905308
>if it hurts so much to turn your pen
Why turn the pen though?
I don't get this.
I use an 8bitdo micro to switch between Eraser/Brush so that I can draw and erase much quicker than taking the extra time to flip the whole pencil. This also assumes you even have an eraser which is a really shitty assumption to make because not all tablets have an eraser side.

I did try that feature you mentioned before in the settings but I believe it still didn't work the way I expected so I ended up just ditching Krita.

>>7904448
i never used krita, but doesn't that just painting with white paint?

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>>7905279
>Latino Americano has entered the chat
Yes, crazy. It's crazy that you have to do this extra step for something so basic. Not convinced? Here's another for you.
I'm left handed. I like to sample color from the canvas with the eyedropper tool using the right-click button on my stylus. Specifically, I NEED it so that the eyedropper picks a color for as long as the button is held, and automatically switches back to my brush when released.
In other programs, I'm allowed to do this easily, either by default or with setup.

But Krita gotta be different. By default, the eyedropper tool doesn't switch back after sampling. You have to pick the eyedropper (shortcut P), sample your color, and then pick not just your brush again - but a button for the "category" of all brushes. Just picking your brush from the brush docker will not allow you to paint again, no you need to let the program know you intend to paint now with a dedicated button. Already retarded, but it gets worse.

There IS an option to do what I want with the Ctrl shortcut - it does exactly what I need. Problem is I want it on my goddamn stylus, and it doesn't appear to be possible. What is it, hard-coded to Ctrl? I can't assign Ctrl to my stylus in Wacom settings for whatever reason. And I can't change the shortcut for this specific action in Krita. So apparently I'm out of options unless you have a workaround for this, or can point out what I'm missing. Either way, why is it so complicated to do something that is simple in any other program?

Oh, you will seethe at me for this criticism. Call me an idiot, a whiner, or a "crystal" (the fuck?). But at what point will you admit the program is a little bit clunkier than it strictly needs to be? Are you a Krita dev or something?

>>7903887
>painful
treat your hemorrhoids first

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>>7905357
not the anon you're arguing with but
>I can't assign Ctrl to my stylus in Wacom settings for whatever reason.
there's no fucking way the new wacom drivers are legitimately that dogshit, i refuse to believe it
bottom right of my pic: ctrl bound to second button, PTH-851
>And I can't change the shortcut for this specific action in Krita
found this shit in 3 minutes

this is literally the first time i've ever installed krita, i mainly use CSP, but the millisecond i read "can't rebind keys" directed at open sauce software i knew i was reading 10000% certified bullshit
those niggas LOOOOOOVE to rice, there's a fucking keybind to open up the help menu
who the fuck needs a keybind to open up the help menu

>>7905254
Nobody cares. Just make a second brush tool that works exactly the same, bind it to E by default, and dump all the bundled erasers there. Done.

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love krita

>>7903950
I wish SAI 2 worked properly under Linux or there was a simple alternative. I don't need/care for the CSP/Krita fluff, I just wanna draw with a decent looking brush

>>7905468
is.. t-this the power of.. k..krita..?
I kneel

>>7905281
>5 steps to create a clipping mask vs hold alt and click between two layers in photoshop
Yeah I'm thinking you suck cocks for free every night

>>7905561
you suck cocks for free every hour from dusk til dawn. you would suck them every 30 minutes if your schedule permitted it. inherit alpha in Krita isn't a difficult concept to understand.

>>7903887
all digital programs are. With pencil you have 100% control over where the line goes and how it looks, you just have to master your own hand. On digital you're sending pings through the computer that approximate lines for you with extremely precision. If you microtwice your hand while drawing with pencil, the line hardly moves. On digital it jerks all over the place and WIDLY changes in thickness. And I didn't even talk about the glass screen that slips the nub all over the place.

>>7905576
trad is king.
God always wins.

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>>7904448
what fucking program are you using? i can switch to the eraser with a default hotkey. someone doesn't understand how layers work

>>7903887
https://x.com/CryptoCyberia/status/2036537851546907020?s=20

Kritacels, our response??

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>>7903887

works fine for me. the only thing really tedious about krita is rearranging brush/grid settings and hotkeys for pixel art, which takes a quick google.

i guess the vector text font is annoying. krita was pretty easy for me to pick up though i mostly just use it for pixel art and cropping/resizing/editing existing art pieces to make wallpapers for my phone and PC.

here's my current WIP with a ship i've made entirely in krita. i recently finished labeling and drawing mechanical details for decks 1 and 2.

>>7905704
>the only thing really tedious about krita is rearranging brush/grid settings and hotkeys for pixel art,
nigger what? you select the pixel brush and zoom in to 3200%. you can do this out of the box.

*krashes*

>>7905744
Plasma never crashes.

>>7903887
Okay adobe employee #2973231.

>>7904100
I got unironically bullied for using blender instead of 3ds max 10 years ago and now normies love blender and hate 3ds max. Normie cattle are retarded but gimp still sucks.

>>7905673
Tyson Tan puts fear into the NFT Blockchain lain larper..

>>7905276
>This whole idea that you HAVE to switch your whole workflow or install third-party plugins just for it to work similarly to whatever you're used to is amusing.
Why would it be amusing? It's LITERALLY how everything in the entire fucking universe works. If you want something that behaves like CSP, there's a solution; it's called "fucking use CSP, dumbass". Me? I've used Krita since the start, so I'm used to it, and in deep enough that I routinely take advantage of many features that CSP couldn't even dream of, like HDR drawing and complex alpha-inheritance setups.

>>7905468
Love this.

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FYI as of 5.3 there are two separate keybinds for the brush and eraser mode (normally activated when you flip your stylus) which remember which brush you used for each mode. So you can arrange that you have separate keybinds for a brush preset and an eraser preset without any plugins. Just keep in mind the eraser mode isn't locked to purely erasers.

>>7905357
you sound retarded. what you are describing in your wall of text is not difficult to set up at all.

>>7905853
Obvious shill.
Why don't I have to adjust my workflow for literally anything other than FOSS software like Krita and GIMP?

I literally never have to change up my whole workflow when trying other drawing programs.

>>7905883
because you are retarded. you can't shill something that is free, btw (;

>>7905880
I'll just take your word for it then, spic

>>7905892
>>7905417
actual illiterate retard.

>>7905886
case in point, i cant be proven wrong, as usual
also good try attempting to play the semantics game with me
no one is going to use Krita until you accommodate the typical workflow
get over it krita dev
do us an OBS and make software that people actually want to use

Funny that OBS keeps getting brought up, because these threads feel exactly the same as the early OBS issue complaints from XSplit shills.
>point out that you use XSplit
>point out actual real QoL flaw
>then make up bullshit issues
>when confronted about bullshit, cry about developers harassing you
>now people randomly parrot the made up bullshit any time anyone brings up OBS because they only looked up the first issue, saw that it wasn't a lie and automatically assumed everything else was correct
Took quite a while to shake that mud off.

Eternal reminder, less than two weeks ago:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/adobe-agrees-150-million-settlement-and-injunction-resolve-alleged-violations-restore-online

>>7904149
>not following common software conventions doesn't mean it's bad!
But it gimps that software from getting experienced users since switching over is more friction than just continue using current software. I think every FOSSslop suffers from having their own UI and ways of doing things (I ain't calling it workflow. Keep those fucking buzzwords out). For example, I use SolidWorks and Inventor for 3d cad. I fucking cannot use FreeCAD despite being free open source even for simple designs. Instead I found Onshape or use Fusion 360 on devices that don't have SW/IV because their UI conventions are close enough instead of figuring out how the fuck to extrude a profile in FreeCAD. Fuck you FreeCAD your software fucking sucks balls. Every other software is just Sketch -> E to extrude. FreeCAD is whatever the fuck do I have to watch a tutorial for it.

Anyway. Yeah basically the complaints are more like if driving a car and you move fwd/back with a lever, and your turn signal are two seperate buttons instead of a stalk. Perfectly usable once you get used to it but fuck do I have to relearn shit.

>>7905913
why argue with a retard? its not like you can change a retard's mind. i will say "krita is no problem for me out of the box" and you will reply with autistic screetching about how it needs to be the exact same experience as other paint tools. youre an autistic nodraw retard and there's no point trying to "prove you wrong"

>>7904781
Nah I think it's because it's being shilled as THE free alternative but when ppl tried it out and be like, "eh, it's mid but it works". Kinda like Drawabox

>>7905934
>its not bad you just have to...
to
>you just dont draw
moving the goalposts because you're wrong, as usual

>>7905959
very illiterate and retarded post, i was right, no point in interacting with a retard.

>>7906001
>fallacy by assertion
like i said, yet to be refuted
go ahead and try but i would save your ego the embarrassment ;)

>>7905725

out of the box, krita does not have snap-to-grid enabled. the sub-pixel precision is an absolute pain if you want perfectly symmetrical circles or are drawing lines that are one pixel thick. i once tried to enable snap-to-grid but instead enabled something called "snap to guides" instead, that ended up snapping the brush to the corners between pixels instead of the center of the pixels themselves. be honest: it's not intuitive. simply having each pixel be its own unit without infinite analog space between them would help.

krita's hotkeys sometimes get in the way of art, like when pressing 4, 5, or 6 when typing in brush size and it ends up tilting the canvas. sometimes, CTRL ends up making the color selector pop up when you're trying to use the 'undo' hotkey (CTRL+Z) and i have, on multiple occasions, froze krita and lost progress while spamming 'undo' while this hotkey was enabled.

I hope Adobe retakes the crown one day and put lazy CSP devs into the shitter

>>7906033
>lazy CSP
qrd?

>>7906033
LMAO. You're asking Adobe to make a 180° turn around an become a totally different company. Adobe is lost. To do what you say, first it should get rid of their JEET criminal management and rebrand the whole concept of the company. That ain't gonna happen. They went all in their shitification process and now they can't pull out of it, specially now with them on trial for their criminal business model and phishing methods.

>>7906040
Well if not Adobe, then hopefully someone else, but I feel like that's less likely than Adobe just becoming better in the long term, 10-20 years from now.

>>7906028
>snap-to-grid
>sub-pixel
>having each pixel be its own unit
anon, respectfully i dont think you know what you are doing. make a 256x256px canvas and zoom in and you literally draw by the pixel. it sounds like you are trying to make pixel art on a normal painting canvas. it's not even close to as complicated as you are explaining. i would post an example webm from my pc but i have a niggerlicious rangeban.

>>7905704
>>7906069
>9365x4000
just saw this, you are literally doing pixel art wrong.

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>>7905570
You lost krita tranny, go hang yourself troonie.

>>7905883
>if CSP works for you, use CSP
>reeee obvious shill
Did CSP raise their prices again? Is this why you're bellyaching so much?
I had to change up the way I used my computer when I switched over from Windows to Linux. It's not a case that Windows was better or worse, just different. Same with moving from SketchUp to Blender. SketchUp is technically "easier" but doesn't have the same flexibility, so, being a being of superior IQ, I adapted and learned how to use Blender.
And it's the same with Krita. It does things differently, but it chose to do it that way because it offers flexibility that's not possible in other programs, all for the cost of a tiny, one-time switchup to your established routine. And honestly, it's a good thing. I would've never discovered HDR scene-linear painting if it weren't for Krita. But if you're incapable of making tiny adaptations and are thoroughly rooted in your ways, then once again, you can always just pay CSP money to use their program.

>>7904768
The hate is that people couldn't get into it and instead of accepting they didn't click with the program(or simply refused to learn) they blame the program itself
For those who want more simple stuff try FireAlpaca or Medibang

>>7904100
The greentext implies Anon either installed linux on the school's computer or some student before him did it

>>7906071
>>7906069

my art is pixel art by definition of being drawn with the accuracy of individual pixels, without blending. the images are large because they are depicting something large at a defined scale. i still draw things on a room-by-room basis, which is why it takes months to finish,

people here just want to trash on Krita because it is objectively an art program made by programmers, but they have art adjacent friends willing to be lab rats. That's why it's shilled so much

>>7904448
>Krita decides to use your SAME drawing brush to erase
Protip, holding down the ` key does the same in photoshop.

>>7906239
Were other art programs not made by programmers? Is there some kind of second path I'm unaware of?

>>7904448
i reassigned E to a round eraser brush using ten brushes script

>>7906628
>bro has to install ten scripts just to have an eraser tool
frfr Krita be the biggest cap in all of drawing software

>>7906632
Ten Brushes is installed and enabled by default

>>7906174
>The greentext implies Anon either installed linux on the school's computer or some student before him did it
You do know what a laptop is right anon

>>7904149

GIMP is great for editing GIF animations, just not drawing.

>>7903887
Those Kritranny programmers really fucking with your workflow using temp layer effects if you've been using Adobe for a long time.

They insist reinventing that bullshit because they are Kritrannies. Fucking bitch

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>>7908574
>GIMP is great for

>>7908694
GIMP is far too goated nothing can ever come close

>>7908694
GIMP has built in gamepad and MIDI input

>>7905468
doesnt have screentones, krita doesnt have screentones , itś shit

>>7909421
Sure it does, there are screen tone brushes or you can put a screen tone texture in a clipping layer. I can't say I understood why people use screen tones just make your own texture unique to you

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>>7909421
tell me you've never used krita without telling me you've never used krita
>>7909476
there are full blown filter layers that can non destructively convert anything into halftone

>>7909480
thank you !!!!!!!!

>>7906044
>Adobe just becoming better in the long term, 10-20 years from now.
>better in the long term, from now.
>10-20 years
Bruh, Adobe is gonna be dead and replaced by that point. CSP and Sai has overshadowed and have overtaken Adobe by leaps and bounds. They fucked themselves in the ass so much it's not even funny. That's not to mention there's free alt-software now that easily rivals Adobe.

>>7909859
I don't want Japanese/Asian software dominance in the digital art sphere.

>>7903887
The only people who ever recommended Krita to me were my two friends who don't draw at all and basically only shilled it because it was free and open source. My one friend who draws uses CSP; personally I like to alternate between SAI and CSP (only for the brushes) I don't think Krita is bad but it makes lots of particular decisions that push away people who are long time artists, I guess it's better than Medibang/Firealpaca + it's way less confusing and bloated than photoshop but there's no incentive to switch if you're already used to either SAI or CSP

>>7905883
FOSS projects are either the best community led projects (Krita to a certain degree, Blender to a certain degree) or everyone have their own 'better' ways of implementing features in a completely different way because they're smart or something so the app turned out chaotic (eg: LibreCAD, LibreOffice, GIMP, to a lesser extent Krita).

>>7909859
>Sai
huh? that thing is still being updated?
honestly weird to me that nobody did an open re implementation of SAI or of paint.net
also adobe is never gonna die its one of these too big to die corpos.
>>7909911
>don't think Krita is bad but it makes lots of particular decisions that push away people who are long time artists
like? can you name 1 thing? it doesn't have a built in money sucking black-hole?
the only reason why people use proprietary software is toxic peer pressure manufactured by corpo shills

>>7910059
The eraser is the #1 goofy thing, and I say this as a nigga that uses Krita
the script shuffle and being able to bind the brush-as-eraser to Shift + E is godsend but it's still such a fucking weird choice

>>7910070
whats weird about it?

>>7910070
okay thats 1 thing
its weird that they come with ten brushes script by default but don't pre configure it i guess they are worried about making their own native user-base angry.

what if you just drew without all this gay shit
like on a MS paint or on a piece of paper

>>7910096
>guess they are worried about making their own native user-base angry.
the trannies coding that shit could have a pop up on first boot that asks people what kind of eraser tool behaviour they want but trannies can't think so nevermind

>>7909859
>CSP
>overshadowing PS
Nah. If you're a drawing artist maybe.

>>7910059
It's weird you bring up the money thing when you can still buy a perpetual license of CSP, maybe i'll give this one to you because they've been getting jewish lately but motherfucking SAI? You know, the one software that's been made by a single autistic dude for decades? Not only that but is also known for being notoriously easy to crack? That's the software you think has corpo shills/peer pressure bullshit? Step back and think for a second not every art software is made by Adobe

>>7909911
I'm on linux and I'm never touching windows again so krita is more than good enough, I just wish the eraser thing wasn't so retarded but it's not the end of the world

>>7910059
>huh? that thing is still being updated?
brother why does everything need to be "updated"? Every "update" nowadays actively make things worse. Sai has everything you need and runs on a microwave, it's the ultimate just draw program, it doesn't need updates.

>>7910324
i wasn't talking about sai on that reply
also perpetual licenses still cost money whereas the GPLv3 license that krita is distributed by is free and literally defends your user freedom by law.
you have 2 options throw your money away and paint or not its that simple.
also yes you can pirate and its the only correct way to use proprietary software. Modern day cracking software thankfully is very easy to use and usually open source.
however there is no reason to even pirate stuff when you can just use krita.
>>7910333
>Sai has everything you need and runs on a microwave,
okay but does it run on win11 microwave? or do you need to fuck with compat modes?
you need to do upkeep on your software because everything else is being updated as well.
btw yes it is updated. last dev blogpost was from 2026
> Every "update" nowadays actively make things worse
not "nowadays" its always been like that for for-profit software that's just how it works business interests and user interests are always in conflict
>it doesn't need updates
agree but adding shit ton of worthless features that only make software more unsustainable and unstable is how profit is made. Features and updates like that exist to justify the ever increasing licensing price and nothing else. There is a reason why sai-san was struggling to finish sai2 for a decade by now his shit is barely making making money. that's the invisible hand "solving" shit for you
>>7910289
krita is community funded and developed ask nicely and it will happen.

>>7909911
>better than Medibang/Firealpaca
they have 8bit dithering

>>7910495
Man, what's all this passive aggressive bullshit being thrown at the SAI developer? You talk about him like he's an evil conglomerate when he's just 1 guy who would like to make a living off of his work. The reason SAI 2 is taking so long is that he's the only person working and maintaining SAI. He might even work another job since most people crack his stuff instead of paying for it. Now I love krita, I've been using it since 2012. it's a fantastic program, but you're doing a disservice to it and open source projects by being such a smug douche about the idea that someone MIGHT liked to be paid for a product they've worked on by themselves for almost twenty years.