This thread is for talking about railways, and things related to railways, in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland - that means we're all about big intercity trains, modest rural trains, long freight trains, trips, tracks, (deep breath) trams, subways, stations, and a partridge in a pear tree~.If you're unfamiliar with train travel, take a look at National Rail's journey planner, at nationalrail.co.uk/ - tell it where you're travelling from and to, and it'll show you a few options before handing you over to a train company so you can buy a ticket. For the same journey, they'll all charge the same price, so it doesn't matter who you buy one from. The best option for overseas visitors would be to use thetrainline.com/ - it'll support your language and payment card.Here's a few links:~The Man in Seat 61 (seat61.com/) - easily the best rail travel resource out there.~A Visual History of Railway Rolling Stock in Great Britain (gaelan.me/br-stock/)~Geoff Marshall (youtube.com/@geofftech2) - likes trains. Mostly harmless.~Jago Hazzard (youtube.com/@jagohazzard) - London train history. Ditto....and some cool 'open data' stuff:~Realtimetrains (realtimetrains.co.uk/) - live train timetables: ideal for keeping on top of ETAs and platforms.~Openrailwaymap (openrailwaymap.org/) - not quite 'Google Maps for railway infrastructure', but close.~TIGER (tiger.worldline.global/home/) - live station departure boards.~Traksy (traksy.uk/live/) - live signalling information.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Transport for Greater Manchester have announced their plans for bringing local commuter rail into the Bee Network by 2030 as well, now that they've done the same with the buses. Simple fares, tap-in tap-out payment across trams, trains and buses, consistent stations and signage, you know how it goes.>https://news.tfgm.com/press-releases/7f9d4151-b911-4247-97d0-cc5d5a9570a3/mayor-andy-burnham-reveals-plans-for-bee-network-rail-to-boost-passenger-numbers-and-drive-greater-manchester-s-growth>The eight commuter Bee Network Rail lines are:>Rochdale stopping services (Local trains that call at stations between Manchester and Rochdale)>Ashton-under-Lyne and Stalybridge>Glossop, Hadfield and Rose Hill Marple via Guide Bridge>Alderley Edge and Buxton via Stockport>Airport stopping services (Local trains that call at stations between Manchester and Manchester Airport)>Wigan via Golborne>Wigan via Atherton (Local trains continuing on to Southport)>Wigan via Bolton (Local trains continuing on to Southport)
>>2031476Pretty impressive
Oh and speaking of Manchester, Network Rail are opening a consultation about what's to be done with Oxford Road station. There's a stupid fucking multimedia presentation thing here with diagrams and videos and such:>https://manchesteroxfordroad.consultation.ai/...and the basic overview is laid out here as well:>https://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/news/network-rail-launches-consultation-on-plans-to-improve-manchester-oxford-road-station...basically involving shutting the entire thing for two years for a complete rebuild, while allowing traffic to pass through as usual during - usual business of straightening out track alignment bottlenecks, reducing it from five platforms to three & lengthening the new platforms, and making the whole place step-free. It's long overdue imo, it's a nice station constrained by the misfortune of being slap bang in the middle of one of the most congested sections of infrastructure on the entire railway network.
>>2031479A welcome change. They'll have to do it while trying not to damage the Grade II listed roofing too.
Lmaoing at this pre-privatisation documentary, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPpbAzaabKc. Three and a half decades later and nothing's changed, at all: 'the Netherlands does it this way so obviously that's obviously the best way full stop end of simple as'.
Any of you guys live in New York and ride the train? What was your experience?
I'm moving back to NYC soon. Looking forward to less traffic on the streets now that they have congestion pricing.
>>2031184>the reason the busses are slow is because of car traffic.they are slow because they stop every 12 feet > had trip speeds that were nearly four minutes shorterwow, 4 whole minutes, while still being slow as fuck and smelling like piss and being full of crackheads and pieces of shit who blast terrible music. still 4 times slower than driving, still the worst experience ever >jalopnik is a car blog.jalopnik is owned by gawker which is a left wing jewish chinese communist company that wants to ban cars and guns
>>2031191have fun when the rest of the businesses close
>>2031215actually correctjalopnik is a car blog like streetsblog is about cars and buses have to make 30-50 stops to get to my final destination which is why my commute is 90 mins by bus (40 stops on the q3, then 34 stops on the q17) and 20 mins by carguess who's driving despite having the highest insurance rates, registration fees, tolls, having to look 30-60 mins for street parking at times, etc
>>2031222>guess who's driving despite having the highest insurance rates, registration fees, tolls, having to look 30-60 mins for street parking at times, etc>New York my son, people must commute to work. You must decide>Do you improve mass transit with the billions and billions of dollars the MTA spends each year? >Or make driving worse and worse until it's somehow worse than transit?
>Jeju Air black boxes ceased recording before plane crash, South Korea says>Transport ministry is investigating the cause of the data loss following the worst-ever aviation disaster in the country’s historyFDRs and CVRs don't just stop working for no reason. What the fuck is going on?https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/11/jeju-air-black-boxes-ceased-recording-before-plane-crash-south-korea-says
>>2030889Starting a jet turbine isn't exactly like the remote start function on your car and the more shit you're automating, the greater the odds the plane starts doing stuff on it's own. That was the entire cause of the Max's fuckups, the plane was erroneously detecting a dangerous nose-up attitude and applying "corrective" action. Hell, I'd even say that the Air France Airbus that went into the Atlantic was caused when an automated system failed, kicked over to manual control and the pilots may not have realized.
>>2030889Leads to unintended consequences. See the other anon's response.
>>2030889>Why doesn't it just automatically kick in when power fails?...An APU start is the highest load that can be placed on the batteries. Now, you are trying to a) simultaneously supply the essential loads and b) to start the APU. The APU start is more challenging for the batteries the higher the altitude. If you kill your batteries, you are dead. That's why most transport category aircraft have RATs as the electrical and hydraulic source of last resort, and that RAT isn't going to give you everything, just enough to make it to the ground. The 737 doesn't need a RAT because it has full manual reversion upon a complete loss of electrical and hydraulic power. The yoke and rudder pedals are directly connected to the control surfaces. The 737 batteries can supply enough power to the essential loads (left side instruments, communications, emergency lighting, fire systems, etc.) to make it to the crash site. >but muh sully started the APU on Cactus 1549Completely different situation. The A320 has two larger main batteries because it is a fly-by-wire aircraft. The batteries have to bridge the gap between complete loss of AC power to supply energy to the computers and hydraulic systems to maintain aircraft control until the RAT deploys. They were about 2500' MSL so they had relatively dense air for a successful APU start and time. They also had some windmilling source of hydraulic and electric power. However, it was not without risk, and it was out-of-sequence in the QRH. This is the difference between cultures in the west and east.
>>2030762Yes. The last woman president was literally making all decisions based on what a shaman told her to do. She is in prison now.And the current retarded president probably did a self coup d'etat because a shaman told him it was a swell ideaA sick country
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/south-korea-remove-concrete-embankment-blamed-exacerbating-deadly-plane-crash-2025-01-22/>South Korea's transport ministry said on Wednesday that it would remove the concrete embankment installed at Muan International Airport following last month's Jeju Air crash.>In some of the first widespread reforms announced since the crash, authorities said they will make new foundations or other adjustments for similar antennas at seven airports including Muan and Jeju International Airport - one of South Korea's busiest - that are either below ground level or easy to break.>The transport ministry said it will ensure a 240-metre (787-ft) long runway safety area at all airports to meet all relevant regulations. The area at Muan airport was about 200 metres long before the crash.>Police said separately that Son Chang-wan, the former president of the state-run Korea Airports Corporation who was in office when the structure at Muan airport was renovated, was found dead in his home on Tuesday of an apparent suicide.
>live near some farm fields>there is a lap (~10km) that I do on the dirt roads between the fields thats pretty fun>go do it after work, reach around midway>they plowed the fields>road is basically just a bunch of loose dirt now
>>2031387balkanssome of them were plowed, it fucking sucksI had to drop to the near town as it was getting dark, and I literally couldnt pedal uphill on the loose soil...I wonder if I take my moms 4wd toyota and do a couple of back and forths the dirt will compact and be fine to ride
>>2031387Wow what a classic vidWhen I finally saw her tits I simply moved on
>>2031385I kno that feel.On my fav 50km road lap, they removed an entire road.It was a small paved road between fields with low traffic. Now it's gone and I have to detour on a larger road.
>>2031407Link please (for research purposes)
>>2031456Katee Owens
Is it the blimp trains time to shine?Could this be used to get Ukraine grain to the rest of europe?They have different rail gauge between rooskie and EU tracks but blimp can be handed off with out even slowing downTHIS CAN WORK???!!!!!!!BLIMP TRAIN HOLEY ROLLERRIDE ON THE BLIMP TRAINBLIMP TRAIN SAVE THIS COUNTRY AND MAKE IT WHOLE AGAIN Now Im on the edge of something Wondering bout the blimp train ooooohhhhaaaaa eeeeeaaaaahhhooooaaaaTalking bout the blimp train
>>2025178/n/ has a time machine anon, we all use it
>>2022388how do you mean?
>>2022388of course
>>2024303women will look like this and then have the nerve to complain when I just want to get topped by men
>>2030796what are you trying to say?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkI6Fmet4FE>build giant transit system with biden bux>no one wants to use it in very typical government project fashion>jillions wasted>"UHHHH THE SOLUTION IS IMMENANT DOMAIN TO FLOOD AREAS AROUND TRAINS WITH CHEAP HOUSING"The mindvirus strikes again. Once again they think society should be built to make their policies work, not policies built to help society work.
>>2031173What is wrong with you?
>>2031168The USPS in certain places practically is welfare for blacks. The union won't let them fire the useless ones so yes it's a jobs program.
>>2031168The USPS loses money in part because it has to service everybody. Trains and transit only work on a very small geographical area of a city, and yet everyone who lives within 50 miles of the city is expected to pay up.This is pretty sketchy as-is if we didn't have retards screaming about suburbs "aren't paying their fair share".
>>2027390I live in Denver. In order of importance, the reasons nobody uses rail here is 1. the constant presence of homeless people on transit, 2. the fact that the train routes don't service large portions of the metro area and that some travel by bus is generally necessary (and the buses are even more inundated with homeless people), and 3. the trains tend to run behind schedule and it's hard to reliably get somewhere on time.The video you embedded is correct on some accounts and incorrect on others. The crux of his argument, about the train stations being in largely unpopulated and random areas, is true. You can still use RTD to get places, but in general, a train ride is one leg of a public transit journey here, and some amount of bus riding is virtually always necessary. At the end of the day, the reason that's unattractive to most people who live here is the fact that the buses are fucking filled with homeless people and crime. I suspect this is probably the case in most other cities of Denver's size with unused rail lines.
>>2031168USPS is an anachronism like trains themselves. Oh nooo... what if I couldn't get my junk mail? Nothing would change if USPS simply went away at this point.
>bro just 10, I mean 20, I mean 30 more years and the US will totally look like this>oh yeah that project got cancelled>and that one>yeah that one was a complete failure>that one didn't even last a month>but this one's coming soon! (we've pared it down to a single unprotected bike lane for half a mile)At what point do you just give up and accept the United States is a lost cause
>>2030757Why would Americans learn third worlder language?
>>2031399>poor access to services in the countrysidesuch as?
>>2031399Ah yes, the vitally necessary cultural enrichment package.
Actually, light rail in Salt Lake City, UT is pretty based. Yeah it does the usual "hardly faster than walking" thing in the downtown area, but once it leaves that, it really hauls ass - maybe up to 60 mph? Anyway, it actually goes out to where people want to live, which is the suburbs, and it does it pretty well. So if you want to be a train fag, I suppose it's not a bad place to do it.That said, if you don't have a car you are totally missing out, there's awesome driving all over the place there.Urbanist limpwrists usually point to places like NYC and Boston - crime-ridden, unaffordable shithole and unaffordable, NIMBY-extreme shithole - places only wealthy faggots actually enjoy. To everyone else, it's a rat-race nightmare of struggling to afford it, and if you're anywhere near mass-transit, you can't afford it.
Actually if you build more urban housing you don’t even need as much transportation infrastructure in general because people can just walk and bike. Or use the current transit infrastructure more.
This is my imaginary island country of Regalia.What kind of transportation would be feasible on this island? I imagined the country as a British colony settled in the early 18th century and gaining its independence after WWII. The population is around 1.8 million, though the overwhelming majority live in the twin cities of Kingsport and Arkham. The interior of the main island is sparsely populated and mountainous, with a few dormant volcanoes.I'm trying to imagine the rail lines connecting all the cities on the south coast, and the ferry system between Kingsport and Arkham.
bump. i don't want this thread to die. i've bookmarked it already. i will use all of these information in my video game without your permission
>>2029822No one's going to buy your shitty plagiarized game.
stealstreets,,,can lace over/thru any terrain,,posthole digger on lonnng arm offront cab,,factory parts arive,,plug.,,,,personal cars,mostlysnug tinyhome camperish.,,sleep while traveling 180 mph,,or justsit and watch towns flowpast.
It's the same shit in every Anglo-Saxon country. It would surely be the same.
>>2020656aside from Red Hook to Alyesbury and the bay lines all of those ferry lines have been closing since the 1960s.
Happy 20th Birthday 4chan. I traveled to Fremont, CA to meet up with some dear friends and family and found out that the the Niles Canyon Railway was doing a steam excursion to commemorate the Bronco Billy Film Festival where they were showcasing silent-era films that were shot in Bay Area at the turn of the century so I booked a last-minute ride aboard it.Will dump my album and go over some history of the railroad and its equipment below.
Nice trains, appreciate the dump. I live in Chattanooga, we have a pretty alright steam museum, they even have a streamliner caboose in their yard. I want to be come a steam autist but don't know where to start, any recommendations?
>>2018994That coach has seen better days
>>1978448zased
It's a shame all the pics got murdered
Is the San Francisco Zoo's train worth a ride?
>>2030924working on your bike is not wasted time if you enjoy it
>>2031176nobody enjoys working with chains, they get dirty and disgustingit's like changing the diapers, no matter how much you like being a parent, that is at best a part that you tolerate
>>2031177There is nothing good or bad, but thinking makes it so. instead of despairing over how dirty a chain can become, one can feel satisfaction and gratitude in seeing it clean and shiny again.
>>2029565marketing scheme developed by big rear hub and big bottom bracket
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One day one of these bad boys will crash.If you're on that flight make sure you take a selfie for the Guinness world record
>>2029868Jesus fucking christ. I had forgotten about that. They almost did a bowling strike of three planes, plus the AC759. Total of 4 aircraft destroyed.>>2029726Not true. Emirates largest A380 operator has an A380 config with 615 seats (58 biz+557 coach) + crew. Handily beats the 583 dead in Tenerif and 509 dead on JAL123
>>2029858aviation is safe in spite of regulation, not because oftechnology has removed all the causes that actually crashed planes
>>2029678Obviously because it's fucking massive. Even the more iconic 747 pales in size and sheer beefiness. When you see one in person you realize just how big they are, the vertical stabilizer alone is the size of some entire planes. It's the biggest plane you could realistically fly on without having to the military.
>>2029666Sadly they'll probably be all retired before they even have a chance to cause a horrific crash.
>>2029831It might be able to maintain altitude if the weight is low enough.
>finally bite the bullet and move to Eastern Yurop from NA>doesn't make financial sense to pay to ship my bikes, sell them before moving>move to small but comfortable commiebloc apartment >having a bike would take too much room + I don't have a lot of space to perform maintenance>most people who commute to work outside of cages and public transport seem to use e-scooters here wtf lol>(except for food delivery jeets who exclusively use e-bikes and chinese gas powered scooters/mini motorbikes)>used bike market is shit and filled mostly with expensive full suspension MTBs probably stolen from Germany or literal trash>decide to buy a cheap commuter kick scooter to try out / get around and explore>turns out it's fantastic for commuting in a dense euro city>decide to rent an e-scooter to get across the city one day to see what it's like>it's fast, nimble and super fun>stores easily and can cross the city twice on one charge>don't have to get to work covered in sweat>easily take it on public transport if neededComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2030448>stable from 10 km/hWtf anon??Do you fall over if you do 5km/h?My bikes are stable from literally 1-2km/h or how this anon said >>2030481 from literally standstill
>>2030481>>2030482I guess my definition of stable is different from yours. For me things are stable when you don't need to actively correct steering or weight balance. Obviously, you can ride bicycle at any speed you want, hell even trackstand, but that takes a bit of effort... Kind of like balancing a pencil upright (the infamous inverted pendulum). Other thing I should mention is that in general, the stability of bicycle is greater, because small disturbances on the road (i.e. pebbles and uneven pavement) don't affect anything much at all and you can ride with hands off the bars without any issues. But in case of the e-scooter with its tiny wheels, hands-free riding is only possible on extremely smooth pavement since any pebble will upset steering enough for you to loose balance. Other thing to consider is turning radius. Actually, maybe it is much more important than stability lol. dunno.
>>2029905in a city with cycling infrastructure these things are so fucking awesome
>>2029905Your opinion should be disregarded because no intelligent human would move to Eastern Yurop from NA, cutting their salary 70% in the processYour greentext also sounds reddit tier>>2030541riding even one handed on an e-scooter is extremely unstable and dificult. Meanwhile I can easily ride with no hands on a bike.
>>2030760Just moved to western Europe. Make more now than NA. 3bdroom Apt less than 800. 200 a month for groceries. My bank account looks phat. Good bye america. Keep taking your copium.
redpill me on sky janny>all the liabilities of aviation, 0 the fun>more stressful than being an actual pilot>be sitting at 0 kt GS all day; probably can't even see outside>your job depends on periodic health checks up as stringent as pilots>lengthy training regime>one oopsies and it's overwhat seems to be the appeal?was it the job security? the power trip of ordering planes around
>>2031247don't you have to be under 30 to get in the door?
>>2031250yeah age limit basically just like commercial pilot entryalso the acceptance rate is low and the training is lengthyhttps://subscriber.politicopro.com/article/2023/11/faa-looking-at-ways-to-curb-controller-academy-wash-out-rates-00128065https://www.aviationjobsearch.com/career-hub/articles/career-advice/air-traffic-control/how-long-does-it-take-to-become-an-air-traffic-controllerbut instead of flying you stare at a screen all day
>>2031209>redpill me on sky jannyIts a highly important skill that isn't taught in college. So you can have a hs education and a clean piss test and psych and make 100k a year. You can live and work in aviation and afford your own Cessna and get licensed. You make 40k a year more than a pilot at a small regional commuter airline.The story was always you could do it out of HS but I'm not sure since there are so many people coming out of the military.Seems like it would be a good career.
>>2031247>For someone with a high school diploma you're not going to find a job with a better salary and benefits than ATC.I can think of one...nuclear defense industry.Honeywell will pay you 100k to retrofit nuclear weapons missile triggers. They have to be replaced every 20 years. You need a top secret clearance. All the people they hire are either 18 year old hs grads or fresh out of school engineers for the supervisors. They pay you to sit in the office for 6 months doing nothing while you get the TS clearance.
>>2031295At the plant in KC? I live near by and do LE already but it's a fuck
>In Caltrain’s transition from diesel to electric, the transit agency opened a new online store featuring a variety of branded merchandise. In addition to holiday sweaters and exclusive boxed models of the new electric train, a much larger commodity is up for sale: the “Caltrain EMD F40PH-2 Locomotive (Used).”>“These gently used, lovingly maintained 1985 F40 diesel locomotives could be yours,” the listing states. “The historic locomotives come with 40 years of service, and more than 1,000,000 miles traveled. Perfect for your model train set, train-themed diners, ornamental lawn decor or planter box, unconventional bed n breakfast or just to show up your overly gnomed neighbor’s lawn.”> When Caltrain completes its electrification project with full service Sept. 21, it will retire most of its diesel fleet. Almost 100 gallery cars will likely be sold to another operator, said Caltrain spokesman Dan Lieberman, and the locomotives are being split up by age.>Nine newer diesel locomotives will remain in use for the Gilroy service, which isn’t undergoing electrification because Caltrain doesn’t own that portion of the corridor. However, Caltrain has 20 diesel locomotives that have passed their expected retirement dates and will no longer be operational.>These older trains might be scrapped, Lieberman said, but first, Caltrain wanted to give rail fans the opportunity to bring them home and make something out of them.>The engine must be disabled and the buyer must cover the costs of storage and transportation, according to the listing. The locomotives will officially go up for auction in October.https://www.smdailyjournal.com/news/local/want-to-buy-an-old-caltrain/article_5e80d0d2-77c4-11ef-8753-8f597dfafd08.html
>>2025624I don't know what you're referring to, champ.
>>2025625You do though
>>2025623Since when can Peru afford trains?
>>2022128How much?
>>2022147A RR for an amusement park or zoo.
They should bring back train crashing as a spectator event. It doesn't even have to be a regular thing, just have it be rare and filmed in many points of view with 4K slomo cameras.
Just imagine, Crash at Crush II: Electric Boogaloo.
Or public airplane crashes
Didn't they stop doing these when a bunch of spectators died
