Disasters never have one root cause and neither did the destruction of cycling. But I know some important milestones in the decline and fall:1. COVID 19. Enough said.2. Full suspension mountain bikes. Enough said.3. Reddit. Enough said.4. Twitter. Enough said.5. British "people". Enough said.6. The d-tch. Enough said.7. The state of Utah. Enough said.8. Zwift, Peloton, "Spin Class", and other cancer. Enough said.What were some other key moments?
>>2071010>just as lethal as a carskill issue. just let off the throttle, moron. they would have died on a bike too making an equally dumb maneuver
>>2071013Yes, learning to pilot an e-bike, or really any kind of vehicle, is a skill issue. I'm glad we're all on the same page here.
>>2071016okyay <3
>>1966530>When you lump in the regular average joe cyclist to the stravafaggot cyclists>Lol you bought a Cervelo?Ok, and?>You have a dork diskOk, and?>Lol aero barsOk, and?>That's not the right bike for this eventOk, and?Point is, who gives a fuck what other people think. Enjoy the ride, the weather, the scenery. Who cares what neon spandex wearing faggots thinks. Let them seethe and allow you to live rent free in their heads. Hope it tanks their Strava stats.
>>2071074imagine not riding a Cannondale Dutch Bike with the Dork Disk removed and front rim brakes only. LMAOing at you life from my Brooks Saddle. Enjoy your anal damage from using "straight" bars you fucking homo.
The end of ebike terrorism is in sight. Let's not count our chickens before they hatch, but I'm tentatively feeling hopefully about this. During the time that the last thread was up, hundreds of people were killed by ebike fires. We need to put a stop to this. I just hope they make sure to add prison time for people caught with unlicensed ebikes.
Dindu nuffin "ebike enthusiast" was trying to enjoy his quick ride home.when will they stop the ebike menace? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoZK6Ja2r5E
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>>2071072>hit him on purpose on an ebikelmaohe should have gotten his driver's license so he could have just gotten a 65$ Failure to Yield ticket instead
>>2071071but when cagies do it
>>2071072>orange countyno part of this counts.
Why did bi-level vehicles go out of style?
>>2069068blacks and browns were brainwashed by jews to go on them so the white man had to cancel the entire program because blacks and browns are scary
>>2069107Absolute cinema.
>>2069072thay's why you have the bottom floor
>>2070957Can't restrict wheelchairs to a part of a facility.>I wanna ride on top! Where's my ADA compliant elevator?
>>2071057i was on a commuter train once that just had ramps instead of stairs. also you can absolutely just say "nah wheelchairs physically don't fit here", if ADA rules made it so wheelchairs have to go everywhere then stairs wouldnt exist at all anymorealso buses already usually have a raised part at the back above the engine where wheelchairs can't go and no one shids and fards about that
> Fargo 32 is for riders seeking a drop-bar mountain bike with the new 32er wheel diameter. Available in the fall of 2026, in either a steel or titanium chassis, the Fargo 32 maintains its Salsa DNA with an abundance of cargo mounts, an off-road touring tuned geometry, and clearance for 32 x 2.4″ tires.It's. Happening.
>have to pay more for tyresFor all the benefits tall people really get the long end of the short stick don't they?
>>2070849please die
>>2071021Why do you even need bigger tires as a beanpole. Commercial jets are on tires 1/10th their size but you need a wheel that comes up to your waist why?
>>2071034well, why don't you put bmx wheels on your road bike, then, shorty?
>>2071047Ok. What's next?
imagine being a voltagelet
>>2060775Fucking hell, look at the New Labour years (1997-2010). Yet another thing to add to Tony's rap sheet (more of a rap tome at this point) when the day of the rope comes.
>>2062232Our railroads aren't state enterprises and are subject to market forces. If electrification made sense it would have been done by now. It was tried a century ago and proved uneconomical for freight after dieselization.
>>2070874shut the fuck up you retarded shithead
>>2070874Lol, lmao
>>2071022>>2071039Being less like India is a good thing, I think
This thread is for talking about railways, and things related to railways, in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland - that means we're all about big intercity trains, modest rural trains, long freight trains, trips, tracks, trams, subways, stations, you get the idea. Trains are cool.If you're planning a journey, take a look at the nationalrail.co.uk/ journey planner - tell it where you're headed from and to, and it'll show you your options before handing you over to a train company so you can buy a ticket. Doesn't matter which train company, they'll all charge the same price for the same seat on the same journey. Overseas visitors - trip.com and thetrainline.com are your best option.Here's a few links:~New rolling stock currently on order, listed (trainlogger.co.uk/units/)~A Visual History of Railway Rolling Stock in Great Britain (gaelan.me/br-stock/)~The Man in Seat 61 (seat61.com/) - easily the best rail travel resource out there.~Geoff Marshall (youtube.com/@geofftech2) - likes trains. Mostly harmless.~Jago Hazzard (youtube.com/@jagohazzard) - London train history. Ditto....and some cool 'open data' stuff:~Realtimetrains (realtimetrains.co.uk/) - live train timetables: ideal for keeping on top of ETAs and platforms.~Openrailwaymap (openrailwaymap.org/) - not quite 'Google Maps for railway infrastructure', but close.~TIGER (https://tiger.worldline.global/home/) - live departure boards.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Got my driver assessment booked for next week with Southeastern - any current/ex drivers who can give a few tips on the tests? I've gone through the paper materials they give you but can't find much else to practice with
>>2068805Why is she looking at me like that?
>>2069620Have you tried asking Rail UK Forums?
>https://www.gov.uk/government/news/better-connected-tap-and-go-travel-across-trains-trams-and-buses-announced-in-governments-new-transport-strategy>Better Connected: tap-and-go travel across trains, trams and buses announced in government's new transport strategyCutting through the treacle a little:>While local leaders will continue to decide whether to invest in contactless, tap-and-go travel, the government has made it easier than ever by providing back-end technical support and long-term funding to bring it to their towns and cities.
Something I like to see at train stations: football team stickers. Much better to see them on the back of signs and things, rather than some tag scrawled in felt pen or something.
>ywn explore the ocean abyss in a private submersiblewhy even live?
>>2068532James Cameron famously had a sub built specifically to explore the Mariana's TrenchJeffery Epstein also had a sub that he was apparently using to go exploring off the coast of Florida to search for signs of Atlantis (I'm not kidding about that, man was autistic as fuck by his own admission)
>>2068401> subs are actually fairly safe, moreso than a car in fact
>>2068582its true oceansgate was a company making objectively shitty subs so they dont really count (imagine if some guy made a car from scratch and the engine blew up killing 4 people, its the same thing). you probably cant name a single other submarine accident. you can probably name people hurt by cars though, you probably also know a few in person. subs are the same as planes here, if something goes wrong probably its a fast death for everyone involved but its also incredibly unlikely. basically, if you get total kms traveled and divide that by total injuries/deaths for both cars and subs youll see that subs harm less people per km
>>2068677I feel the long history of military sub incidents would significantly lower the average. Modern deep-sea subs are safe, historically however they've generally been regarded as deathtraps.
>>2069496its not really fair to consider military deaths. for one thing they arent a fault of the vehicle, and for another they arent fully reported and there are often too many unknown details.if you think about planes probably half of all plane crashes happened before ww2 ended.
Now that wider tires on road bikes are the default and you can barely even find a rim brake bike for sale anymore (other than at the antique store), how long before Big Cycling realizes there's no more upgrades to sell and if they want to continue selling bikes now they have to promote thin, high pressure tires and turn of the century frames as an improvement (complete with convincing-looking data presented by convincing-sounding "engineers")
>>2070377If you ride anything wider than 16mm and tires any thicker than 4mm tubeless you are slow, gay, retarded, and probably a DUI rider.
>>2070390>wider than 16mmso, the entire pro peloton?if your 16mm tires make you faster than them, you really ought to start racing, you could make a lot of money
>>2069550throw a cheap amazon air fork on one of those shitbikes and boom now it takes a front disc. mixed brakes are fine - if you can already lock the rear on rim brakes, then a rear disc can't add any more stopping power
>>2070377that suspension is horrendous
>>2065818Kek. Another unc thread about shitty bike tech.Is anyone still using a CRT TV? Or flip phones? Or god awful leather bike helmets? It sucks. It simply sucks thats why no one is using this shit anymore.You cant even compare bikes from 10 years ago to modern ones. The geometry and efficency, and the money that flew into development surged like crazy during the last 10-15 years.I had a few steel shiters because i liked the look but they are fucking horrendous in every way compared to modern aero race bikes.The comfort, handling, shifting, brakes... its not even funny anymore how bad things were back in the day.
Hypothetically imagine a mall so large it requires its own internal transportation system what would that be like?
>>2070944gonna listen to some Dead Kennedys now
>>2070953americans don't understand how commerce actually works because they've been making money from nothing from stonks since the 1920s and just importing shit right to the consoomer's front door from india and china since the 1800s
A camel caravan would be sick. It would be slow enough to window shop and kids could feed the camels
>>2071011sex with camels at the airport...
>>2071012Yuck, leave your weird airport desires out of this. This is all taking place at the mall.
GPS used to be fancy, and is now affordableCarbon frames used to be fancy, and are now affordableCarbon aero wheels used to be fancy, and are now affordableHydraulic brakes used to be fancy, and are now affordableWireless shifting used to be fancy, and is now affordableGood tires used to not even exist, and are now available albeit a little expensiveLighting used to be heavy and annoying, now it clips to anything and you can light up the road with something the size of your thumbWide range cassettes used to be unimaginable, now some lazy people are even going 1x because they got filtered by 2x It seems like it's all been done. Seriously, what's left. What else is there to improve? We even got bonuses like thru-axle, 3d printed saddles, internal routed everything, and aero frames/cockpits, which let's be honest, you weren't really expecting were you?Can the cycling industry outdo itself or is it now a plateau of stagnation?
>>2069006>technology was good before west coast rent seeking venture crapitalists got their mitts in ityou dont say
>>2069007Usually it's PE that fucks things up, VC is just where retards waste money on juiceros
>>2068949>every individual device has to have its own battery because bike manufacturers and cyclists are too stupid to figure out a wiring harnessIt's the only way to do it. If you're so smart, maybe you should figure it out. You'll be a millionaire if you can connect both a bike computer AND a headlight/taillight set to the same battery.
>>2068223>front engine rear wheel drivethe bike industry is full of wrenchlets who dont even ride
>>2068223the main reason THEY dont do this is that it counts as a motorcycle in north america, most of yurop, and industrialized east asia, so at that point just get a proper motorcycle or sit-down scooter. actual mopeds (as in purpose built motorized pedal bikes) are still popular in southeast (tropical) asia and russiaalso the two stroke died because it doesnt pass emissions regulations, and four-strokes are just physically too large to put in a normal bike frame. also four strokes arent useful below a certain displacement (150ish cc and smaller they just arent worth compared to a big 2-stroke) so again may as well just make it a shitty baja bike, but at that point it is essentially a motorcycle and the pedals are vestigial, so may as well stop pretending and just design and sell it as a 200-250cc motorcycle even in markets that would have allowed small displacement 2 stroke mopeds since at that size it's either it's a 4-stroke that is too small to justify its complex structure or a 2-stroke that is too big to comfortably go on a push bike anymore
Post Your Bike ThreadUrbanism EditionPrevious thread>>2059993
>>2070994There's one in August organized by some fixie guys, I want to be there because it sounds fun
>>2070994I just traced the map & ran the numbers, it's been 46mi in total
>>2070989Why you have front rim brake if no brake levers? Checkmate Dolan
>>2071015>>2070990Gooby pls
>>2070985you need less reach on the frame to accommodate the higher reach of the drop barsor you will have a fucky stem you should have just rented a drop bar bike for a day, or bought one and returned it
Mexican railways thread? The government of Mexico is trying to bring back long distance passenger routes and building light rail in the Mexico City metropolitan areaRailway history in Mexico is actually very interesting. They used to have a national railway company called FNM after they nationalized all the railroad companies in 1908, until the 1990s when they privatized it. >Isthmus of Tehuantepec railway - three lines >Buenavista to AIFA airport to Pachuca intercity railway>Texcoco to La Paz light rail >Costeno, Jarocho route revival>Mayan Train
>>2067013>Mexico City trams would probably be CAF, Siemens, BombardierThey could never afford that.
>>2067019>>2067013bombardier isnt real
>>2067073What did she mean by this
Based mapThey really need to reactivate the old train lines. Traffic out of Mexico city is terrifying
They never even finished the line from Cuautla to Chilpancingo and then to Acapulco...
> solves bikepackingNothing personal kiddo
Man you guys are gay I just want to talk about bikes.
>>2070781Maybe you should have bought an ad?
>>2070828>Posts relevant content to the board>Buy an addShould all bikes just have the names blurred out to appease absolute retards like yourself? I'm not even OP but you're a fucking retard.
>>2070391I think you're right but you need to stop chomping that b8 as easily.
this is a very ugly bike i dont like it
I NEED electronic shifting!It's SOOOO much better and faster and smoother than cable shifters!Shimano please take my one thousand american dollars to make my shifting divine forever! *(*- until next iteration of Di2 releases)
>>2068834original poster said 8 speed moving to 10 speed, so let's start with thatalthough "10 speed" in a vacuum is a little bit ambiguous (could mean a "ten speed" meaning a 2x5 bike from a certain era (sometimes called old ten speeds or "OTS"), or could refer to the drivetrain parts that work with a 10 speed cassette)but once you add the context (that this thread is primarily a discussion of componentry rather than assembled bikes) it's more appropriate to assume that "10 speed" is also about the componentry and not a OTS. not least because nobody really talks about "old eight speeds" (spare me the autistic lecture about how 2x8 existed, no one cares). so a "10 speed chain" is obviously not a "chain from a OTS" but rather a chain that is meant to go on a cassette with 10 cogs. a "10 speed drivetrain" also is obviously not a reference to the drivetrain from a OTS.additionally, "going from 8 to 10" while also ambiguous on its own, becomes much less so when you note that there was a transition period when the default assumption for a "nice" bike went from friction to indexing (as around that time, 10 speed cassettes also became available). so that fits in very cleanly with the "he meant cassette with 10 cogs" narrativeso while it's entirely possible he just uses words in a strange way, overall, it's much more reasonable to assume that anon was talking about the componentry and not an OTS, and therefore "10 speeds (OTS) were all friction you dumb zoomie" is a non sequitur, and an embarrassing one at that
>>2068834>>2068841*2x4
>>2068841I think the problem here is your autism
>>2068841Nobody was using friction shifters in 2003 dude
Rim brake look old. Look old bad. Rim brake bad.
Would more lifeboats have actually helped?
>>2070743>Women and children onlyNo.
>>2070743The lack of lifeboats wasn't the only thing that killed people in the Titanic disaster. Several factors were at play here:1: The ship sank fairly slowly and it only started to become noticeable in the last half an hour. For well over an hour/hour and a half, there seemingly was no rush to get into a lifeboat or make a makeshift raft. The sudden rush made filling and launching lifeboats very hard. This contributed to the death toll.2: The crew was professional but new and made critical mistakes like not filling the lifeboats to their full capacity. This contributed to the death toll.3: The patch of Atlantic Ocean they were in was an ice-field with very cold waters streaming in from the north, coming from the North Pole/Greenland with sea and air temperatures below freezing. This made it unappetizing to get into the (cold) lifeboats early on and many preferred to stay inside the (warm) ship. This effect reinforced points 1 and 2 and for any passengers and crew sinking with the ship and going into the cold waters, this was a death-sentence due to the frigid waters. Normal sea temperatures are around 6 to 7 degrees centigrade and air temperatures around 10 to 12 degrees. Cold but still somewhat survivable. The sea and air temperatures being below freezing contributed to the death toll.4: Cultural issues and order misunderstandings hampered and delayed people getting onboard lifeboats. 2nd and 3rd class passengers were initially barred from going to the deck with the lifeboats because 1st class had priority. Said 1st class didn't want to enter the boats because of points 1 and 3. The ones who wanted to go on the lifeboats couldn't while the ones who could, didn't. Women and children had priority in boarding but some officers misunderstood the order as in women and children ONLY. This contributed to the death toll.5: The absence of the Californian who could've arrived at the scene before Titanic fully sank. This greatly contributed to the death toll.
