It is established that isolation while /out/ leads to particular hallucinations like hearing your own name and the best thing to do is to ignore it. Do not acknowledge. I wonder if this is related to all the native cultures that say exactly the same thing about hearing your own name. Have any of you experienced this or had hallucinations?
>>2854685/pol/ is the most frequented board of the whole site with /b/.Only leftards and niggers (which one are you?) think it's a minority not reflecting the whole site.4chan is /pol/ and /pol/ is 4chan.
>>2854720>complete mental breakdown upon being discovered
>>2854775Except I'm not the first anon.And you didn't answer, which one are you?>HAHA MENTAL BREAKDOWNHardly. Just providing datas. /b/ and /pol/ are the two most frequented boards of the site, whether you like it or not. You sound like the unstable one, here.
>>2854802You are questioning politics on the outdoors board.
>>2854720>minorityThe only thing minority about /pol/ are all the huwites and literal browns larping as germanics and anglos on the board. But the idea that you should be welcome to smear your shit on the walls of everyone else’s space, simply because there are many of you, is the most jeet-coded thing you could possibly think.
Let's help each other pick a suitable bag.>litres>body size/build>what does it need to have>budget range>short listRemember, the more effort you put into your post, the better responses you will get.
how much weight should be on this hips vs. the shoulders?
>>2854010is it viable to keep the bigger bag but make an inside frame to hold shape?
>>2854011Try to place the heaviest things such as water against your upper back and things like sleeping bag in the lowest portion of the bag.
Can I get some tips for my next outting? I'm fairly intermediate when it comes to bushcraft and survival, I've lived on the road and in the wilderness for five years but I'm in a period where I have a stipend and education affording me a place to live. I can a get job after this but if I do it'll be remote, down the road is where I belong as a person and it's the only place I've found with happiness and wonder still in life. This time I want to be well equipped without also being an easy target to get robbed with a bunch of expensive ultralight gear. I've got a 65 liter Martingtop, it's very nice besides feeling a little cramped, but it's also unassuming. I want to bring a tarp but I'm unsure if I should get a 10x10 or a 10x13, my goal is to have a little space around my 1 person tent or hammock that I can comfortably cook or sit out of the rain. I have a 13x13 right now that I was going to use if I get a vehicle, but it's easily too big for me to fit along with my clothing. I usually travel for years at a time out on the road, but somehow I still don't have a good idea of what I want or need when it comes to equipment and gear. I don't mind heavier loads full of extra shit if it means more comfort on the road, I walked without a break from Crescent City CA to Santa Rosa carrying a 45~ lb backpack with a broken waist strap and it really wasn't too bad. Maybe I'd rather go light weight though, and have just a light sleeping bag and a tarp and a bug net hammock. Does anyone have experience with both? My main enemies on the road so far have been bugs, rain, and humidity, so I'm mostly focused on preparing against those. Also this is a comfort thing for me, but I really hate shit being attached to the outside of my pack and prefer it all to pack in easily and be safe in the liner. Is this me being a retard, should I be maximizing the outside of my pack space as well?
>>2853344Anyone recommend a good back pack for fishing-camping combo? Don't necessarily need a pole holder just something where I can make adjustments to attach a pole to the side and room for two 6inch bait boxes. Looking for something that won't break the budget.Anyone have experience with this?
I have been hiking at a cool spot for the past few months because it has lots of animals. I usually see javalina, coyote, coatis, and like 20 different species of birds. Unfortunately yesterday I ran into a mountain lion on the trail. I thought it was a coati going up a tree but it was actually a damn lion. I looked it up and the area is apparently filled with them. Is bear spray enough to deter them or should I start bringing a gun instead?
>>2852831If it's a hobby you see yourself doing lots of, I'd recommend getting used to carrying a gun. This was my first year of hunting and I've heard so many stories of shit going south real fast. Huge dude climbing out of his tree stand had a cougar sprint at him as soon as he was on the ground. Dumped it with a quick shot and has the picture to prove it. On top of many stories from others about bears, bull and buck charges. Better off carrying. If you aren't hunting a short 12 gauge is cheap fast and sufficient.
I've caught dozens of mountain lions on my trail cams. I've heard them calling in the distance. I've never seen one IRL. I have a knife on me. But it's more for cutting through vines and thin branches than personal protection. I'm not at all concerned with encountering a mountain lion. You're 100x more likely to be injured in a vehicle accident than you are to encounter much less have be attacked by a mountain lion. Old picture, be the only one I have with myself for scale(reply)
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>>2853425What an eccentric performance.
>>2853063>survivorship biasMountain Lions attack less than 10 people a year in all of North America. There's less than 30 deaths in over 100 years due to mountain lions.
Is 450 CAD too much for a 100% wool anorak? everything is expensive these days it seems
i cant believe i have to explain this shit to people who supposedly go out.a 100% woll anorak is an insulation layer. if you want to add water proof around that ok. If you plan to wear it as outwear in anything but the clearest skies you're stupid. layers are a thing for very good reasons and if you're not wearing it in a basement you need water proofing.personally i like the layering on both top and bottom to be independent and flexible. walking in snow water proof boots and leggings. snowing walking on dry ground? water proof top.
>>2854723the guy in the OP is wearing it as an outer layer. checkmate.
>>2853848They would have used a shell layer of oilcloth or skins.
>>2854856Naah, medieval europeans DID use wool as rain protection layer. Oiled or waxed cloth is an early modern/modern invention and skins would be too expensive. But as I said, wool cloaks, not jackets, and of special wool with (somewhat) higher rain resistance. Not a blanket-like anorak. And they didn't spend the night outdoors after having gotten their stuff wet (or frankly ever) if they could at all avoid it. Armies campaigned in the summer. Long distance hunting trips like in the americas were not a thing (maybe in eastern europe/russia, I don't know what they did.)
you can make a shirt out of a cheap army blanket if you're just curious.
how do you train for mountaneering hiking and backpacking and out in generali know the optimal way is to load weight on a backpack and walk uphill and down, increasing distance, elevation and weight progressivelybut i live in flat area and it's depressing to drive for 1 hour just to be on the same boring trail. anything closer is shit, i need to go up and down the same hill 10 times to get close to the total elevation i want, it's boring and depressing and people who i encounter think i'm stupidany other suggestions?
>>28540911 hour easy running sessions + 1 long run per week, is literally how you train long distance endurance
>>2853460i just do the master roshi thing and always carry my 12kg "stealth" backpack when i leave the house or go for an hour "powerwalking". like 2 or 3 times a week. good cardio too i look sexy af now.
>>2854242
track and field athletes train by doing squats
>>2853460>but i live in flat area and it's depressing to drive for 1 hour just to be on the same boring trail. anything closer is shit, i need to go up and down the same hill 10 times to get close to the total elevation i want, it's boring and depressing and people who i encounter think i'm stupidOne of the guys I met on my last mountaineering trip trained by jogging circuits with a weighted pack up and down the stairs of his apartment building. Guess that's the only option when you live in Singapore. Can't say he seemed to give a fuck whether the other residents thought he looked stupid or not and it did the job, we both made it to 6800m.
The purpose of this general is to encourage people to go /out/ and find cool fossils and artifacts. This thread is also a place to share our own collections and things we find when we are /out/ hunting.Rules are as follows,>To just post and discuss fossils and other related geological subjects.>When you post about a fossil in your collection, please label it with what formation it is from, what it is, and where in the world it is from.>If you don't know where it originated or the species that is ok, just label it as so>You can post rocks and minerals as long a they are ones that you have found while /out/ Helpful Links https://paleobiodb.org/navigator/https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/https://zoom.earth/Geologic maps of US states (usgs.gov)A Beginner's Guide To Fossil Hunting - Fossil Hunting Trips - The Fossil ForumListing of Historic Resources (alberta.ca)USGS | Pocket Texas GeologyComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2853178I found an arrowhead. It's not perfect, probably a flake from the final product or a reject
>>2853289post it, I'd love to see it
>>2853289>flakes and rejects That’s all this board is
bump
>>2853178yo i haven't seen one of these threads in a while, i haven't been in this board for ages too. If this thread ever dies come to the /extraflags/ general on /int/, i now live in Northern Italy so we can talk about geology all day, plenty of well documented locations around here. I'm mostly into minerals but there's also a few fossil locations i wanna explore
Have you ever found a DEAD GUY
>>2852933It's a male skeleton, you can tell from the heart-shaped pelvis
>>2853228It’s fake. You can tell from the articulation and how the left leg is in hammer space.
>>2852910So you aren't very good at the rescue part then?
>>2854826He won "Seek Champion" every year since 2021
>>2854818>he died from SUPERnatural causes
Weather is starting to get cold and I wanted to get you guys opinion so I figured I'd get the wool general goingWhat's an acceptable blend in your guys experience for /out/ings? I'm looking at getting one of those L.L. Bean birdseye sweaters and it's 80 wool 20 Rayon. Will the rayon be detrimental at all? Anyone have experience?
>>2851471Ended up getting myself a pair of British army no.2 trousers. Advertised as 80% wool but seems the pair they sent is of an older pattern and made of 100% wool, so thats a win. Seem pretty comfy so far, and for only £14 I'm not too bothered about partaking in any sort of /out/ pursuit with them. Must be the absolute rock bottom price one can get a quality wool garment at really.
She came over and is testing the 9% wool shirts now. She says it's comfortable and hasn't broken out. We're in a hot kitchen and she's wearing it (long sleeves) and says she's not sweaty. I know 100% would be better, but at 25% the price I can get her four and that should get her through the winter. Allegedly she has a coat. It's a stupid situation, but she didn't ask for help and she's been cold and gotten sick. I had to do something. (There's a huge sub plot about repairing her relationship with her mother but this is bloggery enough already.)
>>2854745for the record anon, wool doesn't really make you sweat less, it just takes the sweat off your skini really recommend less clothing and more wool anyway if the moisture wicking is the main reason you're buying it, you can usually wash the stuff less than typical clothes, but im not sure with the whole sweat thingi think some synthetics are also good at moisture wicking but i forgot because i dont wear them lol
>>2854757It seems to be working and it turns out she has no actual coat so I bought her one. I was misled. I thought she couldn't wear one but that she didn't. Long story. I dropped $140 on her. She's better off now. Maybe she won't get sick so easily again.
>>2845577Just wear a soft merino shirt under it. Eventually you’ll get used to it and not even notice.
Whats the most out there thing you have built to facilitate your camping adventures bros?and how does it match up to the autism king?>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHU8VK3qIa4
>>2842649did this vehicle exist before he reinvented the wheel or did he have a point even if niche?
>>2843251>>2844664motorism is the embodiement of LGBT. The means of power storage do not make a difference.
>>2854164your gay bicyclical aura betrays you, you boy molesting fruit.
>>2842649Best I’ve seen was a guy 5hrs into the mountains wait a wheelbarrow and several 24 packs of beer. Whe had it chilling in the hut water tank, wher he was having a swim. Pretty hilarious, glad there was a stream to get water from nearby. And he shared a bunch with us, so happy days. The next people would face drank that water in oiled, yuck.
>>2854830*un boiled.
> be me> Practice charting time.> take a lot of time taking measurements around my basement.> Take measurements back to charting table.> Absolutely fucked. > Repeat measurements repeat charting.> Still fucked.> Drop pen in frustration > North changes.> That was several hours of my life.
>>2854433Went out and started trying to find the distance of some radio towers I can see at night. All my measurements are less than or just at 1° I might need a different compass to get fine readings.
Circumstance of a circle of a with a radius of 1 mile, then decide that number by 360. I thing I was taught it's a ruff 175 feet. If the best resolution you can get is 1 degree than that is like the minimum inaccuracy you will see when using radio towers that can be many many miles away. Your pocket compass isn't for charting it's for navigating. Given a good map that same compass can give you your location with greater accuracy.
Daily reminder that George Washington started the French and Indian war while "practicing surveying".
>>2854809Daily reminder that wood toothed nigga named his last ditch defensive point "fort nessisary" with the only locked door being on the liquor shack.
>>2854820He's just like me
Cave diggers will never get a girlfr.... wat?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qEfSmWfwm0
>>2850249only 1-2 guys at a time were able to get nearby him, only 1 person right next to him at a time. some rescuers were able to partially squeeze right next to him into the crack to tie rope to his legs or later around his waist (though they report it was very difficult to do so).>About 5 hours later Spencer called me up and asked me to respond, saying that people were getting tired and they really needed small cavers. >After stabilizing myself by jamming my body into a narrower section of the crack I began speaking to John...>I went first to check, just in case the paramedic couldn’t fit. I first tried the stethoscope and was only able to get it about 3 inches up and to the right of his naval. I didn’t hear a distinct heart beat, only some ruffling, fluttering sounds that were probably a result of me shaking as I tried to steady myself in an awkward location. I then jammed my hand between the rock and pressed as far up his torso I could go to feel for breathing.https://www.brandonkowallis.com/2024/02/the-nutty-putty-cave-rescue-the-death-of-john-jones-one-rescuers-perspective/you can check his report, there are also some cool diagrams and photos
>>2850087does not work
>>2849213In canada women indulge whatever hobby their husbando might be into , even digging a fucking cave. Holy fuck america is so fucked right now
>>2849213
>>2850220>>2850249This is my favorite nutty putty video https://youtube.com/watch?v=o-TaF2DbaWw
is xander the new goat of /out/ youtubers?
>>2853843yeah i think his kids are pretty annoying and extremely autistic
>>2853834I can do a temu gear review in a blizzard
>>2853945Then do it lil bro, we need content.
>>2853963As soon as I get my drone and gopro. I don't want to risk my life only to shoot in 720p
>>2853804Never watched this guy, but hasn’t a lot of primitive living tube stuff been debunked? Hidden pumps? Construction equipment use? Cleverly covered wiring? Host has hotel receipts for nights he was supposed to have been roughing it?
I fucking hate them to my core. They often buy up land, then totally ban access to the public, even in places where public access was previously legal, with zero explanation about why, while bragging and showing off videos of the beautiful overlooks they would love to arrest you for trespassing to get to on their website. If they DO allow access, there's never any signage, adequate parking, let alone improved trails. They truly do not give a fuck and I imagine them as hateful boomers who pat themselves on the back "oh the land is protected now!" as they ban access. It might as well be private land. It has all been logged already.
>>2854295>which lady?the lady who answered the phone at the State park. The structure is unsafe she said.
>>2854370anon the area is closed to the public, trail building isn't the issue
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>>2854427I guess at some point they are just gonna have robot police and drones roaming around and trespassing will be truly enforced. Shame people are so unwilling to share and instead revel in "owning" land which really just means getting to bully and be violent with others who go there.
>>2853895Someone with no money or prospects for buying their own land shat you out for probably no other reason than a desire for attention or because of an accident and millions of other people in their generation did the same thing so now the rest of us have to worry about whether or not you have a house and a job and a woman to shit out your progeny or you’ll cause trouble, especially if you don’t have a place to satisfy your caveman desire to see what’s coming to eat you.
I've Never Done That Before. Also Merry christmas.
>>2854056It's the FVSTIAN SPIRITA plurb wouldn't understand.
Lol
>>2853610nope. in the grand scheme of things its easy to keep warm, its very difficult to get cool, so unless you want to die of heat stroke in your sleep, thats why the vast majority of car dwellers move north in the summer. ill take a low of 20, even 10 over a low of 75, 80, 85 every time.
>>2853583REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>2853573These are really nice on cold mornings.Put one in each jacket pocket.They last around 8 to 10 hours.
I call it the Ventilation Improved Triple Pit (VITP).Two poop pits of the same depth and width as close as possible with a third low pit that becomes a downhill trench. The third pit is for urine the principle is a downhill dug trench with gravel at the bottom and dirt on top until it reaches back to the opening of the pit which is exposed gravel. You pee on the gravel it travels downhill through the gravel and you may plant things on top of the dirt which will drink the urine.This separation of urine from poop means the poop can compost and remain as dry as possible giving it the highest volume reduction possible and lowest smell. One poop pit is used for a year and then it is allowed to rest and users switch to the other pit. For every 1/4th the pit is filled you must throw in a shovel of worm rich topsoil. The poop pit being used will each week have dry crushed leaves and wood ash of aboht the same quantity tossed in. High carbon, low moisture and the final piece of the puzzle is aeration. A pipe must be installed from the two poop pits out above the roof or sitting area, and it must have a mesh or fly stop on it. This airflow allows the highest level of composting. I advise connecting the two poop pits together via this air pipe with a three piece pipe connector and only one air pipe coming out. In your local environment you should have mint or peppermint plants. These usually contain menthol which is an insect deterrent. Do not throw directly in the pit, plant them around the toilet and crush leaves up, or create an decoction and spread around the area weekly. If this is done correctly not only will it not stink but you can realistically with a permanent group never have to get in and shovel raw shit.
>>2854248Not the same thing. The roots can grow away.
>>2854310and the biggest toilet in India is the Ganges river.
>mom found the poop pits
>>2853519I just poop in the river it makes washing my butt easy.
>>2854788No.
