so when i go out, which is rarely, its usually just a trip to the woods for 1-2hrs.but im interested in day hikes. im not really fit, its more the opposite. im pretty skinny and dont have a lot of strength and stamina, is ultralight gear the way to go for me?i dont plan on sleeping outside, so i dont need a tent.i need a good backpack, shoes and just the regular stuff. actually, i dont really know what i need for day hikes. i guess enough space for food, water and other necessities. budget is 500any recommendations or do i just look up yt and see what they say?
>>2855242>actually, i dont really know what i need for day hikesDepends on your climate and terrain.Weather's fairly mild around me so I easily do an 8h hike with just a 2L hydration pack, a couple of clif bars and a tube of sunblock, regardless of the season.There are other areas where even a 2h hike necessitates carrying comprehensive cold weather gear and an emergency shelter because you never know when a blizzard will unexpectedly roll in and leave you lost or at risk of hypothermia.Where are you likely to be doing most of your hiking?
>>2855244>>2855245thanks!>>2855250middle europe, bavarian forest mostly. its between a temperate climate and a humid continental/hemiboreal climate zone
>>2855242If you are only going out for the day it doesnt matter how much your gear wieghs. You're talking a matter of ounces to a pound or 2 at most difference. Just a backpack big enough to fit food, water, rain jacket, extra layers etc...knife, lighter/matches, TP, etc...https://www.outdoorgearlab.com/topics/camping-and-hiking/best-daypack
Buying ultralight for a dayhike is overkill. Spend the money on some sandwiches and bulk up. What you need is>ShoesOutdoorsy shoes or boots, depends on your terrain mostly. A lanklet may prefer shoes even in heavier terrain. I prefer pure leather as a middle way between waterproof but sweaty (goretex) and airy but not waterproof at all (mesh or fabric). If you only day hike in good weather you can go with the latter. The important thing about a shoe is that it fits your foot. Go to a store, try some. You don't really need to spend much money if you can find some that fit, but spending more is most acceptable on shoes.>ClothesIf you're doing something very exerting (probably not, since you say you don't have stamina) or if you go in rainy weather, you need synthetic or wool clothing. Decent synthetic clothing for base layers (undershirts) and fleeces can be very cheap, check at decathlon for starts but there are many online shops. Wool is for the extra comfy and non-stinky factor, but you don't need that for dayhikes. If you go in good weather and nothing exerting, your day to day cotton clothes will do.>Rain protectionYou can spend a lot of money here... or you get a cheap decathlon waterproof jacket or a poncho from amazon and be done. But if there's a chance of rain, you should bring *something*.>Water 1l/10km is a good baseline. More in hot weather. Buy some bottles at the local supermarket.... or special bottles and fill them with tap water. Whatever.>FoodStarting at 10km you should bring some food.>BackpackSince you don't bring much to begin with, your backpack will not be heavy anyway either. So no need to go ultralight.
>>2855263>I prefer pure leather as a middle way between waterproof but sweaty (goretex) and airy but not waterproof at all (mesh or fabric). If you only day hike in good weather you can go with the latter.Even in poor weather I prefer the latter.Unless you're going all the way with waterproof trousers and gaiters then heavy enough rain will get inside your boots regardless. And even gaiters won't do shit if the trail is flooded.At least fabric boots dry quickly.
fantasy books recommendations?
>>2849507The Kingkiller Chronicles by Patrick RothfussAnything by Brandon Sanderson
>>2849507The Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn trilogy by Tad Williams,
>>2849547>krabat is one of my absolut favourite books.Looks neat. I'm going to check it out.
>>2850754>>2852211botns is great i second it
>crowded af>rocks falling on people's heads>higher death rate than DenaliI'd like to climb a really big mountain but Mont Blanc is certainly not my dream, despite its beuty. Grossglockner is much less suicidal if you have some climbing experience.
>>2852299dat pierced nip poking out
>>2852012I have no motivation to climb a mountain but if I did I would want to climb a dangerous one without many people there. Everest might as well be sponsored by Omega at this point.
>>2853078>>i wish I was at k2 insteadWouldn't Matterhorn be better choice than Mont Blanc for someone who wants to be at k2?
>>2852346can i rent a farmers' donkey for a week and walk around the region with it
>>2852299me in the back
Just ordered the North Face Stormbreak 2. What tent are you rocking? What do you love and hate about it? What tent do you want?
>>2854884I'm very happy with this tent and want no other. If you buy one remember to seam seal it and upgrade the lines with clam cleats for tensioning. you can do without, but there is a ton of lines and it makes it easier.
>>2854886also excellent ventilation with the vent in the pyramid tip. but it takes some training to get the pitching of the tent seams to the ground right, a wee bit of a gap is nice for air circulation, too much and you get a draft in the shelter, especially when you don't use the inner. I only use the bug net inner which was fine up to -7°C at night outside in combination with a good sleeping bag, but there is closed fabric variants too in case you go cold weather camping and need a real two wall tent.
>>2827319Wallshart tent held together with duck tape mostly for car or canoe camping, and bug season. By myself and no bugs, a hammock or sometimes just a rainfly like this >>2827348 or under the stars if the weather is good
>>2854755>>2854756Pretty nice. Got any windbreak + tent?
>>2854450>Snugpak ionosphereThe condensation in these things is unreal.
I’m a complete novice in trekking, but I’m planning to do the Huemul circuit in a month. Every blog I read on the internet says it’s not suited to beginners, but I’m planning on going on the high season and tagging along with people if I think I’m going to get lost and stuff. I’m also training my endurance and stamina by going up the stairs in my apartment building with a backback. Any tips on other training and how to navigate this trail?
>>2854688carry 120lbs of gear on you*
>>2854600Can I just gain 120lbs instead
>>2854760yeah if it's mostly muscle and then you still need to carry 120lbs worth of gear
>>2854600isn't 120lbs of weight too much to carry? For reference, I'm 156lbs and calculated that, at the start of the trek, I would carry around 45lbs. What do I need that weights so much?
>>2855147Of course you can start with 45lbs. But you have to add more weight later on. When you are tired that 45lb bags feels like 80lb bag. You will develop better leg muscles and stamina by training with heavier bag. You need that with long hikes
I want to try mountaineering but I'm scared of heights
>>2852542>nature's is JFC >>2852545That's just hiking.
>>2852548>That's just hiking.You have to start somewhere.
As someone who was also pretty fuckin scared of heights (and still is, depending on the situation) but now helps teach a mountaineering course:Start off scrambling (aka "spicy hiking"). Keep it below Class 3. Learn to orienteer, you can get lost as fuck off trail.A decent amount of mountaineering doesn't actually involve much exposure to heights. A lot of mountaineering is just about glacier travel and off-trail navigation in the alpine. You can climb, for instance, all five of the WA Volcanos without any actual class 5 rock or ice. That doesn't mean there aren't sketchy sections with big run-outs, just pointing out that "mountaineering" != "hiking + rock climbing" like a lot of people think it is. It's kinda a different set of skills, with some overlap, but it's not the same thing.Working on balance can help a lot with a fear of heights. Fear of heights is actually fear if falling. Do a lot of balance exercise.Of course exposure therapy helps too. Try rock climbing outdoors. The best exposure therapy is rappelling. Find some local top-rope crag and rappell until it's automatic. But never practice repelling without an instructor, at least not the first 50 or so times.Endurance is huge for mountaineering. Weighted uphill hikes are the best way to train. Don't waste time with anything else.
>>2852548>That's just hiking.Most mountaineering is just hiking that then turns into class 3 or 4 scrambling. Gotta walk before you can crawl.
>>2852580>Gotta walk before you can crawl.I like that. Gonna use it in the future.
What is your opinion on folding kayaks? I live where not every fishing hole has a trail leading to it and I'm not looking to drag a full sized kayak along with fishing gear everywhere I want to go
>>2852922>fuck decoyslol wut
>>2853360like this
>>2853119Tie two ropes to the bag. Second rope goes to the centre of the bottom so when you lift it first it dumps the rocks.
>>2852036I bought one from tucktec years ago and it's ok. Kinda cumbersome to fold back up. It isn't fun to paddle in for long.
>>2853360misspelling of duck
>#531- "Jump the Shark" Edition>Previous Thread: >>2846103>janny pls…>Thinking about picking up a new hobby? Want to get a memecaster? Haven't mastered the Palomar knot? Click here!>http://www.pastebin.com/u/fishingandtackle>https://imgur.com/a/1Xw3N>New Bong Fishin Guide>https://pastebin.com/sDB5SQTq>First for best telescopic rod is the one you exchanged for a 3pc.>Talk about fishin
>>2855110palomar is best for everything
>>2855121>>2855110palomar is great on paper but it's a bitch to do on anything thicker that 0.25mm and it's not that strongimproved uni (going twice into the eye) is betteri almost exclusively use uni and it's variations
>>2855122>0.25mmwouldn't know, anything over 17lb is braid for meknot strength is irrelevant, they are all perfectly fine if tied correctly and not burnt
>>2855015where are you fishing? looks like some lil guys I catch here in socal
>>2855132>>2855132>>2855132early thread to avoid skid fucking it up again
It's time to return to mother nature! Anything artificial shouldn't be brought or crafted!
>>2854532You replied to a jew so he probably would be
>>2854752naw, jews know how numbers work.
>>2854676What about manure? Will nature take care of it without needing much help from you?
swear anti-civ is psyop for people questioning industry
>>2855103aunt tedina was literally the product of intelligence agency research and development, everything he did was what he was made for by them, including inspiring new retards.
In honor of Halloween, and we haven't talked about this guy in like a year, I'd like to get everyone to remember the tragic tale of James Kim, who got cuck-killed by his nagging white wife. Guy, his wife, and their daughters, age 4 and 7 mo finished Thanksgiving with family in Seattle, and decided to stay at a resort on the Oregon coast on the way back to San Francisco. He was television personality and audio reviewer for CNET. This was in late 2006, so before smartphones. They missed the turn to the main highway connecting interstate 5 with the Oregon coast, pulled into a gas station to ask directions, and fucked it up from there. The wife was nagging him to get home and it got dark and they ended up on logging roads that theoretically DO connect I-5 and the Oregon coast, but it was snowing heavily and they turned around, got lost, and gave up. He went to seek help and died frozen, and the wife and two daughter survived. The price a man pays for a hypergamous marriage. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Kim
>>2854455does it actually connect the central valley and the coast like they wanted it to do, I mean if somehow they got through all the snow, could they have made it?
>>2854460The real story wasnt the road , it was the horrible wife. They would have lived and been rescued if she had not been such a see you next tuesday
>>2855031I'm always curious about "secret" ways to get places that connect very remote areas. I mean, that's the reason she married an Azn man. He got to be with someone of the better race, in exchange for having to be with someone bitchy and controlling.
>>2855032>I'm always curious about "secret" ways to get places that connect very remote areas.Move to northern or central Nevada.
>>2855040I know a secret way to your moms house in nevada
ì just bought a couple acres in appalachia and am building a cabin so i dont have to be a rentoid. picrel is what ive done so far
>>2855963Sounds about right. His cabin is going to slide down that hill. No wonder he gave up on it
>>2855964>gave up on itnah he just wants more (You)s>>>/pol/524696879
Is OP still around?
>>2855676are you not going to give the rock bed a batter like a patch of gravel it'll make it more stable
>>2855676Looking good. Got any updates? Don’t tell me you got Ruby ridged..
Can you guys tell me where I can find high quality boots for hiking I have size U.S 14 and a half wide feet and everything I find is garbage and none of the stores around me carry my size I've been to four different stores I'm currently using boots from Amazon that are just trash and not even wide
>>2853172If your thread is still up when you decide tell us please. I am considering trying the Danner 600s but they are all fake leather.
I have flat feet so they are really wide, 6E. Normally I fit into a 10.5 shoe, but for boots I go up to size 13 to compensate, this works well.Best shoe's I've gotten over the years:Altra Torin 8 10.5 WideBest lightweight trail:Altra Lone Peak 8 10.5 WideBest Boot:Keen Revel IV 13 RegularIf you need the boot to be for cold climate, I'd recommend the high polar one, its taller and has more insulation. Has kept my feet warm in 0 degree weather this hunting season. They are waterproof as well.If you don't have really wide feet, maybe try the Revel IV. It goes up to size 15.
>>2853174Someone who else has a flat foot thank you>>2853173Will do
>>2853172Size US 15W here. Can confirm. Am on my second pair of Moab 3s, and they last about 1,000 miles.
>>2853100keens.
Are these yeti tracks?
>>2853568>irregularly spaced>offsetno
>>2853568Whatever it was, those tracks are very old and very deteriorated by exposure. There is no visible track just divets in the snow
>>2853615Bear
Fox
>>2853691Those prints were three times the size of my hand.
I think the Cracow-Częstochowa Uplands in Poland are a bit underrated outing place
Tak
>>2854582>highest elevantion 480mboring, no thankshow are the carpathians, have you been there?
>>2854908I go to Carpathians or Sudetes every year which is less often than to Cracow-Częstochowa Uplands cause the Uplands are just 30 minutes of driving away from me while the closest part of Carpathians is over 2 hours away. I would say that if you want a challenging hike, every part of Carpathians will be better than the Uplands but only Tatra Mountains which are the highest part of Carpathians is really challenging. In terms of views only Tatra is better than the Uplands because the Uplands have lots of cool rocks and castles. Same with rock climbing, most of Carpathians aren't very rocky and Tatra is the only part of it that rock climbers love more than the Uplands. A small con of rock climbing in Tatra is that you need a climb registration in a shelter so they know where to find you if something goes wrong. Generally speaking Tatra is by far the coolest range in Poland but also the most crowded and nearby hotels are expensive.There are also Sudetes but I don't wanna pretend to be a sudete expert cause I've never been to Śnieżnik Massif or Rudawy Janowickie which seem pretty cool but I've been to some parts of Sudetes and Table Mountains are likely the most beautiful mountains in Poland other than Tatra cause they have cooler rock formations than the Uplands.Pic is photos I made in Carpathians this year. The top one is from Gorce Mountains (you can see Tatra far away) and the bottom one is from Tatra Mountains.
>>2854924thanks. i asked because i've been thinking of doing a trip to some of the cheaper, less crowded mountain ranges in europe (comparing to the alps), and the Tatra mountains looked really good. but the other options is the pyrenees which i think are just better, and they are much closer to me and there's still so much i would like to do there that it's hard to justify crossing half of europe by planeor those uplands, i'm sure i would have a great time there but again, doesn't make sense to go having many other options closer to me
>>2854925I've heard the Pirenees are like Tatra but bigger, better and more expensive. Also, if you don't like crowds, Slovakian Tatra would be better. Unfortunately climbing the highest peaks in Slovakian Tatra either requires a guide or a rock climbing loicence, both of which cost quite a lot. Personally I'm planning to go to Austria cause it has higher mountains than Poland and (hopefully) isn't as expensive as Switzerland.
It is established that isolation while /out/ leads to particular hallucinations like hearing your own name and the best thing to do is to ignore it. Do not acknowledge. I wonder if this is related to all the native cultures that say exactly the same thing about hearing your own name. Have any of you experienced this or had hallucinations?
>>2854685/pol/ is the most frequented board of the whole site with /b/.Only leftards and niggers (which one are you?) think it's a minority not reflecting the whole site.4chan is /pol/ and /pol/ is 4chan.
>>2854720>complete mental breakdown upon being discovered
>>2854775Except I'm not the first anon.And you didn't answer, which one are you?>HAHA MENTAL BREAKDOWNHardly. Just providing datas. /b/ and /pol/ are the two most frequented boards of the site, whether you like it or not. You sound like the unstable one, here.
>>2854802You are questioning politics on the outdoors board.
>>2854720>minorityThe only thing minority about /pol/ are all the huwites and literal browns larping as germanics and anglos on the board. But the idea that you should be welcome to smear your shit on the walls of everyone else’s space, simply because there are many of you, is the most jeet-coded thing you could possibly think.
