What is the thinnest /out/ glove technology available today?
>>2846972https://ozerogloves.com/product/ozero-9002/Found these on a bike trail. They are my idea shittly done: wetsuit material (neoprene) but too thin. And like some are saying, sweat is a problem. I put some mickey mouse cotton gloves as liners, but somehow colder than cotton alone. Gonna end up making mittens put of ace back support brace....like mfers are playing piano in winter weather......WHERE THE FUCK ARE ALL THE MITTENS?https://ozerogloves.com/product/ozero-9002/
I did some research, and apparently those weird fucks up north use a mesh base layer. Maybe that plus latex over it solves the problem? The mesh should wick the moisture away, while the holes provide air isolation. The latex traps the air. All still very thin. Just needs some ultra-thin layer over this so it doesn't look like I work at Subways.
>>2854218Thats outdoor guy who's wife just got sick, that was the subject of his last vid. Someone finally had my idea. It doesn't wick shit. Its all about boundary layer. And windproof layer off the skin just traps air. Mesh allows that. Those polyester vapor protocol gauze coveralls they use in hospitals will boil your alive, but the are virtually nothing. Its also a other layer on scrubs. So just another layer, any layer, has air sticking to it as a fluid. All insulation is about trapping air (or a vacuum).
>>2854218>Son, I've seen the clothes you buy for your "hikes in the woods">Is there something you want to tell us?
>>2846972dont know if it's the thinnest, but i really like my pig fdt gloves.
I use a fenix ARB L21 headlamp coupled with the acebeam E75 hand held torch. Both are rechargeable by USB-c and the batteries are interchangeable 21700. These two give me more light than I can use and make a great pair.What lights to do you carry?
>>2855190>Both out performed by random chinkshit from temu.I can get 10,000 lumens for 50 bucks off Amazon or ebay.Im not going to pay a hundred bucks for 1/10th the performance.I guess it was nice of you to help the CEO of Rei pay for that new Ferrari though.
>>2855379My HL60R still works after 10 years, still holds charge on the original battery and has been dropped and used in the rain and freezing temperatures more times than I can count, nothing on Temu can claim the same my cheapskate friend. That said, modern Fenix is pretty bad.
Cheap aliexpress version of the expensive ultralight waterproof pocket flashlight thats on garagegear.Seems like a pretty accurate copycat, I'm happy with it, was 1/10 of the price.Similar to pic related
I didn't try to be an ultralight fag on purpose but it turned out all the gear I need for a 3-4 night backpacking trip fits in a 40-45L backpack, so I'm looking at options for backpacks in that range. Currently using this Gossamer Gear 42L pack and it's okay so far, but does anybody have other suggestions for mid-sized packs?
>>2855256Atom Packs
>>2855450>frameless>load liftersretard
>>2855450>framelessSorry bro, I can't help you there. My gear is ultralight but I still find a frame essential.
>>2855494This, it should be for daypacks. 40-45L without a frame sucks. I think OP might've ended up with one he didn't like and should go for alternatives instead of frameless.
Sorry for hijacking the thread but I'm looking for a big (45+L) pack with removable lid that can turn into a daypack like this youtube.com/watch?v=g9dDFltpt1Y (But not quite like this. I'd love the daypack to have a long vertical compartment that can fit an ipad or a small laptop)
The purpose of this general is to encourage people to go /out/ and find cool fossils and artifacts. This thread is also a place to share our own collections and things we find when we are /out/ hunting.Rules are as follows,>To just post and discuss fossils and other related geological subjects.>When you post about a fossil in your collection, please label it with what formation it is from, what it is, and where in the world it is from.>If you don't know where it originated or the species that is ok, just label it as so>You can post rocks and minerals as long a they are ones that you have found while /out/ Helpful Links https://paleobiodb.org/navigator/https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/https://zoom.earth/Geologic maps of US states (usgs.gov)A Beginner's Guide To Fossil Hunting - Fossil Hunting Trips - The Fossil ForumListing of Historic Resources (alberta.ca)USGS | Pocket Texas GeologyComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>2853178yo i haven't seen one of these threads in a while, i haven't been in this board for ages too. If this thread ever dies come to the /extraflags/ general on /int/, i now live in Northern Italy so we can talk about geology all day, plenty of well documented locations around here. I'm mostly into minerals but there's also a few fossil locations i wanna explore
Trimmers Rock Formation in Devonian shale and Siltstone near Millville PA. I work in solid waste as a CQA so i got out to a site where they were excavating the next cell for cover material while i was doing Liner work next cell over. I'd hop in and find alot of shell impints, hash and ripple marks along with crinoids. Found Burrows back here in the summer too. Some Pretty Tight dendrites as well, site management lets me have at it . The ripples were too big to take unfortunately. I got some from near Allentown PA anyway
Found this flake in the summer, have sent it to the correct authorities, but they have not added it to the database yet. Mearly a flint flake so not that intresting but always nice to find a new site.
>>2855428Pic related is about 4km from the site I found the flake. It was along the river.
>>2853178does petrified wood count? Found a 50 million yr old redwood tree
Hey guys long time no see, lately I've been hiking a lot in wolf country (pack of 6 confirmed) are they a real threat or do they scatter when coming across humans? According to google it should be fine.
>>2854753>Are there any signs I should take notice of to see if they are currently in the area?Tracks and pee markers- they tend to pee in the same spots. easy to see if there is snow
>>2854965I love finding wolf tracks in the snow
awoooo
Like others have said, they can "in theory" be dangerous, but wolf attacks on humans are extremely rare in North America. Probably 50x less likely than bear attacks, which are already very infrequent. I don't know if there is a record in modern times of an actual predatory wolf attack against human using the sort of premeditated pack hunting tactics that >>2854751 describes, at least in North America. Most attacks are by solitary wolves that have been driven to starvation or are rabid or otherwise sick, or they're in suburban environments and habituated to humans and garbage. The odds of being "hunted" by a pack of wild healthy wolves is like, astronomically unlikely.
>>2855406there was in Alaska about 15yrs ago. Female out jogging- all the other attacks were capative, rabid or habituated to human garbage
If there is the best place on the planet to at least visit, then where it is rn>I want to visit it
it was inside of you the whole time
Cleveland, Ohio
>>2855375Akron Ohio >>2855381No
Captain Cook Hawaii. Big island. Scarcely populated. Hunt deer, boar, or chicken year round. No bears, snakes, or mountain lions. Hike swim and camp for free, all over. Big island has almost every biome on the island. Jungle to savannah. Climb a 13er in the morning, eat lunch on the rim of an active volcano, spearfish for dinner. Local ranchers make cheap grass fed beef. Fruit trees everywhere. Best place in the US IMHO. >>In before Hawaii is expensive...It's cheap for locals, expensive for tourists.
What is that thing it has slike really ligyt footsteps i the snow should i run please respond fast guys
>>2855359Idunno OP. It doesn't look good.https://youtu.be/UQmSqrHOhzo?si=j0RsA9kuEeXEaRX4
it's those dudes from the girl who loved tom gordon
>>2855359That's me walking dog, just say hi, nothing to worry about
ok real shit, important questionwhy is photographing wild animals with drones so looked down upon when trail cams are okay?>inb4 hurr noisenigger this isn't 2005, most drones are quiet enough to the point where they can hover 10m over your head and you probably still won't hear it. go ask any slavshit conscripts duking it out in donetsk right now >inb4 animals have keener sensesagain, trailcams. those motherfuckers emit an ungodly amount of IR lights only visible to animals (and other IR cameras i guess) yet no one seems to have any problem with themhigh IQ answers only
>>2855317It says they react to the cameras taking pictures because of the sound and light produced. I tried following links to ones that mention infrared, but they mostly just talk about sound frequencies and practically nothing about how they supposedly detect infrared.It also doesn't say anything about their migration patterns being affected.
You faggots are complaining about drones ruining your /out/ time, yet I have never seen a drone outside of suburbia. Even then, I have only seen drones on very rare occasions. You fags never go /out/.
>>2855331What about people blasting music in nature? This is another thing I see people complain about online but have only experienced it once myself.
>>2854741If you get a high quality one, they make for great air cameras. You can get some wonderful shots. You don't even have to be in any industry, you could just have it for personal use, or upload it to YouTube.
>>2854741>most drones are quietNone of the ones I've seen flown near me are.
would a solo alpine winter ascent of K2 without oxygen be a greater feat than free soloing El Capitan?
Reminder that mountaineers are literally losing braincells every time they go after massive peaks that put them above 8000m without bottled oxygen
>>2854448>read this>all the climbers are all huge assholes, litter, steal anything not nailed down, shit all over the place, vandalize anything they can find, fuck everything up as much as they can, scream at eachother for touching a rope, kick rocks down at eachother, blast music and fireworks all nightWow climbing sounds fucking terrible I cant believe people pay thousands for such a shit ass experience
>>2854429>>2854432Positively /favstian/
>>2855037Welcome to most hobbies that require $$$ to do at the high end. Same with Skiing, Snowboarding, Mountaineering, etc.
>>2855037I think sherpas haul all the shit down the mountain these days. That's if you bother to shit in a bag and put it into a dedicated human waste container up there on the mountain.
so when i go out, which is rarely, its usually just a trip to the woods for 1-2hrs.but im interested in day hikes. im not really fit, its more the opposite. im pretty skinny and dont have a lot of strength and stamina, is ultralight gear the way to go for me?i dont plan on sleeping outside, so i dont need a tent.i need a good backpack, shoes and just the regular stuff. actually, i dont really know what i need for day hikes. i guess enough space for food, water and other necessities. budget is 500any recommendations or do i just look up yt and see what they say?
>>2855242>actually, i dont really know what i need for day hikesDepends on your climate and terrain.Weather's fairly mild around me so I easily do an 8h hike with just a 2L hydration pack, a couple of clif bars and a tube of sunblock, regardless of the season.There are other areas where even a 2h hike necessitates carrying comprehensive cold weather gear and an emergency shelter because you never know when a blizzard will unexpectedly roll in and leave you lost or at risk of hypothermia.Where are you likely to be doing most of your hiking?
>>2855244>>2855245thanks!>>2855250middle europe, bavarian forest mostly. its between a temperate climate and a humid continental/hemiboreal climate zone
>>2855242If you are only going out for the day it doesnt matter how much your gear wieghs. You're talking a matter of ounces to a pound or 2 at most difference. Just a backpack big enough to fit food, water, rain jacket, extra layers etc...knife, lighter/matches, TP, etc...https://www.outdoorgearlab.com/topics/camping-and-hiking/best-daypack
Buying ultralight for a dayhike is overkill. Spend the money on some sandwiches and bulk up. What you need is>ShoesOutdoorsy shoes or boots, depends on your terrain mostly. A lanklet may prefer shoes even in heavier terrain. I prefer pure leather as a middle way between waterproof but sweaty (goretex) and airy but not waterproof at all (mesh or fabric). If you only day hike in good weather you can go with the latter. The important thing about a shoe is that it fits your foot. Go to a store, try some. You don't really need to spend much money if you can find some that fit, but spending more is most acceptable on shoes.>ClothesIf you're doing something very exerting (probably not, since you say you don't have stamina) or if you go in rainy weather, you need synthetic or wool clothing. Decent synthetic clothing for base layers (undershirts) and fleeces can be very cheap, check at decathlon for starts but there are many online shops. Wool is for the extra comfy and non-stinky factor, but you don't need that for dayhikes. If you go in good weather and nothing exerting, your day to day cotton clothes will do.>Rain protectionYou can spend a lot of money here... or you get a cheap decathlon waterproof jacket or a poncho from amazon and be done. But if there's a chance of rain, you should bring *something*.>Water 1l/10km is a good baseline. More in hot weather. Buy some bottles at the local supermarket.... or special bottles and fill them with tap water. Whatever.>FoodStarting at 10km you should bring some food.>BackpackSince you don't bring much to begin with, your backpack will not be heavy anyway either. So no need to go ultralight.
>>2855263>I prefer pure leather as a middle way between waterproof but sweaty (goretex) and airy but not waterproof at all (mesh or fabric). If you only day hike in good weather you can go with the latter.Even in poor weather I prefer the latter.Unless you're going all the way with waterproof trousers and gaiters then heavy enough rain will get inside your boots regardless. And even gaiters won't do shit if the trail is flooded.At least fabric boots dry quickly.
>crowded af>rocks falling on people's heads>higher death rate than DenaliI'd like to climb a really big mountain but Mont Blanc is certainly not my dream, despite its beuty. Grossglockner is much less suicidal if you have some climbing experience.
>>2852299dat pierced nip poking out
>>2852012I have no motivation to climb a mountain but if I did I would want to climb a dangerous one without many people there. Everest might as well be sponsored by Omega at this point.
>>2853078>>i wish I was at k2 insteadWouldn't Matterhorn be better choice than Mont Blanc for someone who wants to be at k2?
>>2852346can i rent a farmers' donkey for a week and walk around the region with it
>>2852299me in the back
I’m a complete novice in trekking, but I’m planning to do the Huemul circuit in a month. Every blog I read on the internet says it’s not suited to beginners, but I’m planning on going on the high season and tagging along with people if I think I’m going to get lost and stuff. I’m also training my endurance and stamina by going up the stairs in my apartment building with a backback. Any tips on other training and how to navigate this trail?
>>2854688carry 120lbs of gear on you*
>>2854600Can I just gain 120lbs instead
>>2854760yeah if it's mostly muscle and then you still need to carry 120lbs worth of gear
>>2854600isn't 120lbs of weight too much to carry? For reference, I'm 156lbs and calculated that, at the start of the trek, I would carry around 45lbs. What do I need that weights so much?
>>2855147Of course you can start with 45lbs. But you have to add more weight later on. When you are tired that 45lb bags feels like 80lb bag. You will develop better leg muscles and stamina by training with heavier bag. You need that with long hikes
I want to try mountaineering but I'm scared of heights
>>2852542>nature's is JFC >>2852545That's just hiking.
>>2852548>That's just hiking.You have to start somewhere.
As someone who was also pretty fuckin scared of heights (and still is, depending on the situation) but now helps teach a mountaineering course:Start off scrambling (aka "spicy hiking"). Keep it below Class 3. Learn to orienteer, you can get lost as fuck off trail.A decent amount of mountaineering doesn't actually involve much exposure to heights. A lot of mountaineering is just about glacier travel and off-trail navigation in the alpine. You can climb, for instance, all five of the WA Volcanos without any actual class 5 rock or ice. That doesn't mean there aren't sketchy sections with big run-outs, just pointing out that "mountaineering" != "hiking + rock climbing" like a lot of people think it is. It's kinda a different set of skills, with some overlap, but it's not the same thing.Working on balance can help a lot with a fear of heights. Fear of heights is actually fear if falling. Do a lot of balance exercise.Of course exposure therapy helps too. Try rock climbing outdoors. The best exposure therapy is rappelling. Find some local top-rope crag and rappell until it's automatic. But never practice repelling without an instructor, at least not the first 50 or so times.Endurance is huge for mountaineering. Weighted uphill hikes are the best way to train. Don't waste time with anything else.
>>2852548>That's just hiking.Most mountaineering is just hiking that then turns into class 3 or 4 scrambling. Gotta walk before you can crawl.
>>2852580>Gotta walk before you can crawl.I like that. Gonna use it in the future.
What is your opinion on folding kayaks? I live where not every fishing hole has a trail leading to it and I'm not looking to drag a full sized kayak along with fishing gear everywhere I want to go
>>2852922>fuck decoyslol wut
>>2853360like this
>>2853119Tie two ropes to the bag. Second rope goes to the centre of the bottom so when you lift it first it dumps the rocks.
>>2852036I bought one from tucktec years ago and it's ok. Kinda cumbersome to fold back up. It isn't fun to paddle in for long.
>>2853360misspelling of duck
>#531- "Jump the Shark" Edition>Previous Thread: >>2846103>janny pls…>Thinking about picking up a new hobby? Want to get a memecaster? Haven't mastered the Palomar knot? Click here!>http://www.pastebin.com/u/fishingandtackle>https://imgur.com/a/1Xw3N>New Bong Fishin Guide>https://pastebin.com/sDB5SQTq>First for best telescopic rod is the one you exchanged for a 3pc.>Talk about fishin
>>2855110palomar is best for everything
>>2855121>>2855110palomar is great on paper but it's a bitch to do on anything thicker that 0.25mm and it's not that strongimproved uni (going twice into the eye) is betteri almost exclusively use uni and it's variations
>>2855122>0.25mmwouldn't know, anything over 17lb is braid for meknot strength is irrelevant, they are all perfectly fine if tied correctly and not burnt
>>2855015where are you fishing? looks like some lil guys I catch here in socal
>>2855132>>2855132>>2855132early thread to avoid skid fucking it up again
