My only criteria is that a motorcycle can fit in the back of it (don't mind if the tail sits down to make it fit).
K24 powered Honda Element will fit a motorcycle with the tail and rear window closed and the only thing that dies on those cars is the suspension pieces, it's a very top heavy setup with a short right wheelbase still so throwing it around corners hurts it a bit.
2WD Ranger with Vulcan 3.0 and manual
>>27631837I do not want a Honda Element, I don't want to deal with fitting the bike in with a height restriction. Secondly, I also don't want to deal with the oil and dirt / mud etc... inside the car.
>>27631832The 3/4 ton GMT800's are pretty up there. The 6.0 LS and 8.1 liter big block were used in heavy duty commercial applications for decades. The 4L80 is pretty stout. You probably don't need a diesel but the Duramax with the Allison in these trucks is good too. The current through the fucking roof prices on these trucks reflects that.
>>27631865>>27631845Anything more new?
a reliable car with a trailer
>>27631871The GM Express is statistically probably the most reliable and newest vehicle on the roads. It's still a crapshoot after the GMT800s. After that you get into the recession era GM's that were a mess and after that you get into shitty 8/10 speed trannies, AFM and DOD bullshit and a million computers running the vehicle.
Probably the most reliable would either be an el camino with a small block chevy and a Holly EFI system, or a honda civic
Just buy pre 2000 and don't get automatic transmission dodges
>>27631832just ride the bike wherever you are going
For hauling motorcycles you want something with an 8 foot bed and a single cab
>>27631927>single cabUseless
>>27631871Tacoma
>>27631832Unironically the answer might be a Ridgeline. They can't handle real work truck use and they're pretty shit off road but they basically exist to haul bikes and they're pretty bulletproof for light duty use, as you'd expect with a Honda.
>>276318322007 Chevy Colorado work truck
>>27632129Not a real truck
>>27631832buy a diesel flatbed truck. million + miles easily and would laugh at whatever piddly weight a motorcycle has
>>27632210Cope
>>27632225Reminder that commercial trucks only get million+ miles because they get very, very regular maintenance and care because the trucking companies value their great investment cost and keep them alive as long as possible.
I wouldn't agree with the 15+ year old vehicles people are recommending. Even if they were statistically more reliable back then, they're going to be less reliable now from a practical standpoint because of their age. I know because I'm an old shitbox enjoyer, and while I agree that they were built better, I see fewer problems in newer vehicles because they haven't had time to fall apart yet. Get something relatively new. Pretty much anything that's not European will be fine.
>>27632385It's not body on frame and it's as expensive as a reek do>>2763222ko
>>27632428This. Don't think there are any European trucks though.
>>27631832Ford f-250 XL 6.2L gas 4x4.Any other answer is pure ignorance. When people want to make money and run the numbers that's the truck they end up with. See every multi billion dollar company, the local government, local business owner, etc running that same truck. Hilux doesn't have shit on our 3/4 ton and I'm tired of turd worlders saying otherwise.
>>27632748Your shit stinks.
>>27631832Anything with a Ford 300 in it.
>>27633012Hola.
>>27631832Interested in this.
>>27631832Toyota Hilux
Ridgeline
>>27632012I hate having my tailgate down, but it works.
>>27633609>no true 4wd>unibody >literally a Pilot with a bed>just as expensive as other MUCH more capable trucks Why? There is zero reason to get a Ridgeline.
>>27633657Did you read OP's post? He's not towing heavily or seriously offroading. A Ridgeline's gimmick trunk is actually insanely useful in a moto-hauler, keeps tools and supplies away from thieves as well as increasing overall storage capacity.
>>27631832Markups are turning me off but I'm about ready to trade my '21 Ranger for a Hybrid Maverick. Never use the 4wd, loading shit sucks, When I pull into the parking lot I'm looking 3/4 ton drivers in the eye. This may be about as wide and long as my '94 Ranger but it's not the same. It's got 12k on it because like driving my 20yo sedan better.
>>27633691>>just as expensive as other MUCH more capable trucks You're making him buy an inferior truck just for shits and giggles.
>>27633657OP said all he cares about is reliability and the ability to carry a bike. The Ridgeline sucks for 90% of truck stuff but it's much more reliable than anything else out there and was literally designed to carry motorcycles.
>>27633697>backpedaling I'll take your concession.
>>27633700I'm not the same anon you replied to, I just agree that the Ridgeline fits what he wants and suggested it earlier in the thread.
>>27633709>costs as much as other trucks My statement>The Ridgeline sucks for 90% of truck stuffYour point Do you see why the Ridgeline makes no sense?If you're saying it was cheaper then sure go for it, but you're literally losing by buying a Ridgeline.
>>27633757Did you score really low on reading comprehension tests in school? Ever get held back a grade?
>>27633762Was that not the point you made, retard?
>>27633787You are disagreeing with the Ridgeline recommendation on the grounds that OP wants a TRUCK for TRUCK THINGS because you seemingly cannot infer anything beyond OP posting a picture of a small pickup and asking for a truck, completely ignoring all of the other words and context posted, which, when read by someone with a higher than 2nd grade reading level, tell the whole story that OP just wants something to move motorcycles around. Therefore, the usual list of TRUCK THINGS:>Offroading>Towing>Looking like a classic brick truck>Putting shit in the bedCan be crossed off into just>Putting shit (bikes) into the bedOn top of that, the ridgeline's unique pro of the underbed storage trunk is beneficial to a moto-hauler between storing parts, tools, riding gear, kit etc without taking up bed or interior space. Now, are you going to double down on your tangent, or argue why a "real" truck would make a better MOTO HAULER AND MOTO HAULER ONLY, or just without shame, admit you made a reading comprehension mistake and move on? We're anonymous here, there's no baggage to admitting you're wrong. It's one of the best things about this place, looking stupid is contained only to one thread.
>>27631832The one you can afford to fix, every company has had cars taken to a million miles
>>27631846>unironically shilling the Hondai Shitiment LOL get the fuck outta here
>>27634036Why are you replying to me asshole?
>>27633841NTA but Ridgeline's aren't real trucks.
>>27631837You are a complete idiot
>>27634307Same question to you: did you test at below-average reading comprehension in school? I truly cannot state my point in any more plain of language than in that last post.
>>27634341He's right though, you're suggesting an inferior "truck".
>>27634347Caveman talk timeOP want bed with wheel to move two wheel magic horseOP no care about payload capacity, towing, 4x4, ground clearance, tow package driveline coolers etcOP probably like more enclosed trunk and cushier ride from minivan suspension
>>27634424You're too retarded to argue with.
>>27634456Break it down for me. Show me where OP posted a list of requirements that would make a Ridgeline a bad recommendation. Even show me evidence that Honda fucked up somewhere and constantly blows trannies or diffs or something, therefore making it unreliable. TALK TO ME, COMPREHEND ME and don't just read one fucking word of my posts and then construct your own interpretation of what I probably wrote in your head.
>>27634467DUDE IF HE NEEDS A CAR WITH A BED LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE TRUCK IS A GOOD CANDIDATE.WITHIN THAT POOL OF VEHICLES THE RIDGELINE IS THE LEAST FUNCTIONAL WHILE COSTING THE SAME AS THE OTHER VEHICLES.
>>27634504WHY WOULD HE WILLINGLY BUY A VEHICLE WITH WORSE RIDE QUALITY AND FUEL ECONOMY AND A BIGGER FOOTPRINT THUS MORE ANNOYING TO PARK AND NO ENCLOSED LOCKING STORAGE SPERATE FROM THE CAB IF ALL HE NEEDS IS A CAR WITH A BED
>>27634467>frag grenade airbag randomly goes off and kills you>vehicle starts on fire and cremates youlol just buy a Tesla. These are pretty much just as bad. https://www.carcomplaints.com/Honda/Ridgeline/2006/recalls/
>>27631832Tundra or late 90s GM.
>>27631832The most reliable ever made? Easy, W115 Benz pickup.
>>27634531Only during the lease period
>>27634522It's the same size and gas consumption.You're disingenuous.
Why is every honda a fwd unibody piece of shit and why do they have to get shilled incessantly in completely unrelated market segments
The ridgeline was purpose built for what you need OP.
>>27634558Anon, W115 predates widespread luxury car leasing, those things are bulletproof
>>27634569Ridgeline gets marginally better fuel economy than a same year F150 (I compared 2010 for both). It will ride better due to IRS. The F150 does not have a hidden trunk under the bed.
>>27631982I don't have a need to shuttle kids to the gender clinic most days, sorry.
>>27634744where do you put your subwoofers?
>>27634752I cram em
>>27633757OP's title was>Need the most reliable truck ever madeThe Ridgeline is easily the most reliable truck that's readily available. Even 3rd gen Tacomas have their fair share of problems. It can also haul bikes fine, which was his only other requirement. That's why I recommended it. I wouldn't recommend it to 99% of truck buyers, or buy one myself (I own a Ranger), but if your only real consideration is reliability then it's the top of the list.
Lots of wrong answers in this thread. The right one is the suzuki carry
>>27634791I guarantee you, that 95% of truck owners including yourself only need a Ridgeline.
>>27631837What the fuck, I like the element now
>>27631832Bumpibg
>>27631832>manual 1st or 2nd gen Dodge Ram with the 12V and a manual transmission. It does not get any more reliable than these.
>>27635367>mechanical fuel injection >timed by gears, no shitty chains or belts>burn fucking used oil and atf in it, see if it gives a fuck>20+mpg no problem >tow fucking anything >haul fucking anything >want more power? Turn a fucking screw.>inline 6 turbodiesel noises>manual transmission because you’re not a fucking pussy (also avoids common dodge automatic shitheaps)
>>27635372>>27635367The age will get to it.
>>27631832A D/W series fits the bill on the cheap end. Parts can be a pain to find, but they're basically indestructible. You can abuse one of those motherfuckers for hundreds of thousands of miles and it'll ask for more.
>>27635807Age gets to literally everything. Next excuse?
>>27636192Yeah, buy something newer as I indicated here>>27632428
>>27636233If you were really autistic about it you could just have someone go through and replace everything rubber for like $5k max. It wouldnt come anywhere close to the price of a newer vehicle
>>27636283What about transmission, suspension and radiator? That's way more than $5k
>>27634791I think those burning ATF fumes are eating your brain away.
>>27636294If youre paranoid about your radiator being old maybe an electric scooter is the vehicle for you
>>27636233You’re a retard and your opinion should be immediately discarded. Newer ≠ betterThere are no emissions controls on my suggestion, barely an electrical system in it, and no automatic transmission to be at the mercy of.OP asked for THE MOST RELIABLE TRUCK and I gave him that suggestion. You said >the age will get to itAt the same time saying>I see fewer problems in newer vehicles because they haven't had time to fall apart yetRetard.>>27636294That NV4500 will last as long as OP treats it decently and gits gud at shifting. Suspension is so fucking cheap to replace components as they wear out that’s a non-issue. Radiator? C’mon nigger now you’re reaching. Unless you really are that fucking stupid
>>27631837Horrible advice.
>>27631832What's up Bozeman bro?
>>27634744Oh so just some days then?Personally I don't let my kid do that weird shit.
Just bought a 2019 Canyon AT4 with a little under 50k milesTell me how much I fucked up truggfags
Depends, if you're hauling around an HD Ultra Limited or some 800lb bike you'd might want to seriously consider a 250/2500.Anything else a halfton would be fine.The problem is loading and unloading, ramps always make my ass pucker.Honestly a motorcycle trailer is pro and you could haul it with about anything.
>>27637136Ramps are only scary the first couple times.
>>27632748Yeah, honestly with a decent heavy duty hauler and a trailer you could make transporting bikes for people a side hustle.Lots of people with cars and broken down motorcycles they can't move.Motorcycle ownership is a logistics problem people overlook.
>>27637136800lbs is half of the amount you can carry in a 1500.You don't need a 2500.
>>27631832Ridgeline and don't look back.>>27636663Body on frame is more susceptible to catastrophic damage.
>>27637459>Body on frame is more susceptible to catastrophic damageWrong.
>>27637131Bump
>>27631832Any Tacoma ever made and B2000 mazda's
>>27638613Tacomas are overpriced.
>>27637466It literally is more susceptible to catastrophic rust damage.
>>27639714Wrong. >have BoF vehicle>entire fucking body can be filled with rust and oh well I’ll just get replacement panels from junkyard >conversely, have mint body but frame has some rust>lift body off and replace frameNow>have unibody vehicle >rust forms>structural integrity of entire vehicle compromised >have to strategically cut and weld panels or else vehicle will forever be unsafe
>>27631871Drive as far as you have to to score one with good sheet metal. The 800s are lifetime vehicles with a huge aftermarket and plenty of Suburban etc salvage donors.I assembled many from crashed donors at my used car lot toy money job (ancient retired jet mech here) including to 2000 4.2 body/1999 5.3 4x4 frame and running gear daily I threw together in 2016 and still daily. You can access the computer using free software and a cheap OBDX USB adapter, not an option for tuning other trucks.Newer isn't better as engine and transmissions became more complex and less reliable. Second choice would be 1997-2004 F150 with a 4.6 I also own a couple of. (4.2 six will eventually hydrolock but are easy to wrench and swap out, plus they come with a five speed, 5.4 spits spark plugs).>>27631865^This too. We are approaching the end of ICE and the extreme complexity means keeping newer vehicles long term sucks expensively. I opportunistically accumulate spare trucks and have a lifetime supply. Do that whatever you drive, for example with Toyotas because good ones are not going to come cheap.>>27631904^This too. Knower detected.>>27631927Ideally but extended cabs with longbeds exist in the used market. My F150 extended cab gets even more length with a Tommy Gate (and overload springs + Timbrens for the extra weight I carry).>>27634752I'm white so no need.>>27634792Small slow deathtrap. You don't own one. I tineyed that pic.>>27634864You wouldn't like loading it.>>27639714You are obviously not a mechanic (I am of many decades) and why would someone not treat their vehicle to prevent rust damage? Body on frame is like four (six if dually) wheeled Lego and super easy to repair if you permitted it to rust. Unibody is far more difficult by nature. That's why salvage yards make runs to the south for rust-free truck beds and other sheet metal. >>27638898Pay once cry once. Cost per year = trifle. I keep most trux at least 20.
