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How exactly an LLM works?
>it just predict words
If i ask what color the sky is, and the AI answers "blue", is the answer generated just by human experience and observation?

When confronted with the question above, chat-GPT specified it's programmed to find a specific pattern according to a database, it doesn't agree but judging from the answer seems like this is the case.
It can't observe, it can't judge, it can't experience things first hand, identify objects or actions and turn then into abstract ideas to work with, it can mix things together to a certain degree but not like a human would do.

Now i'd like to ask /sci/ what does it think about it, because if this is the case i feel disappointed, for sure it's impressive how such mechanisms makes me feel like i am talking to a person but these systems only relies on a fuckton of human knowledge and can't experience or generate new data by themselves. It's like watching a guy cheating at the exam by reading stuff he wrote on his arm.
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>>16181742
That's the same way humans know sky is blue. Your mom pointed at the sky and said it's blue and you went ugu gaga haha until you also knew it was blue.
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>>16181754
It's not the same thing, animals like humans have billions of years of training to recognize objects that may be crucial to their survival, and this means having some sort of simulation about space, we can collect visual data and conceptualize it to solve a problem.

On the other hand, chat-gpt said itself, an LLM is trained on a fuckton of text, but doesn't actually know if the moon is round or white, it finds a pattern about the moon being "white" and "round" encampsulating these words together, ready to deliver it as an answer.

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Post math/science "facts" that make you mad when you hear them. I'll start.

>The Universe is infinite, so an infinite number of different versions of me must exist
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>>16181190
Did your picrel chud divide by zero?
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>>16181207
They can be, depending on your definition of "number" and "complex."
In my view, the following are numbers: naturals, integers, finite fields, rationals, complex rationals...
The following are not numbers: "reals" and any other uncomputable or uncountably infinite set.
(By the way, computer floats are a finite subset of rationals, they have nothing to do with "reals")
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>>16181235
It turns out that linear algebra was everything we needed.
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>>16181190
I've only ever heard joe rogan say that.
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>>16181190
that 0.999... = 1

that gravity is caused by spacetime curvature

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How come the people who didn't get the vax didn't all die?
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>>16181708
you're right about thalidomide victims, and even with the best treatments in the world, there is always going to be one person who will get serious side effects and who would have been better off without it. It's just how it is. It shouldn't however make you forget about the benefits of medicine. Those vaccines you and I received as child had previous, more primitive versions that also have caused a problems to a number of people. Yet they also allowed us to significantly reduce the impact of diseases like poliomyelitis, congenital rubella syndrome, so on and so on. If I had received the covid and even had a semi serious side effect like cardiac arythmia, I'd probably be pissed. But you have to look at the broader picture.I remember well the beginning of the epidemics because I often had to talk with patients throughout this period. Personally, I thought it was just a flu and that it would blew over. Then you started to see the disastrous situations in Italy, with hospitals filled to the brim and people dying in the hallways. People tend to forget that part. That's when other countries started to take it seriously.

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>>16181708
And for the mRNA vaccine, they also forget something, the first available vaccines weren't mRNA based, they were the astra vaccine and the johnson&johnson ones. Very early on it became obvious that they were less efficient and more dangerous than the mRNA ones, which is why it became the main type of vaccine in the campaign. It could have gone the other way and no doctor would have complained about it, but facts are facts, it was a positive thing that we had a bunch of vaccines developped so that we could pick the one with the best profile. I'm sure pharmaceutical companies and government did a lot of shaddy things like they always do, yet it is understandable that they'd want some guarantees before pumping billions of dollars into developping and mass producing a vaccine while competing with many other firms. They could just as well not have done anything and we would have been stuck in lockdowns.

the last thing I wanted to adress is how you seem to think we doctors exist outside of what we're talking about. I received the same vaccine as the other, as did my parents, my siblings, and all the doctors where I work. If some catastrophic event had befallen us, why wouldn't I speak about it ? If doctors thought it was unreasonable dangerous, why did they get the vaccine in a vast majority ? There certainly certain parts of the covid crisis that should have been handled better, but it's always easy to say in hindsight, the fact is that there were reasons for most of the things that happen, and at the same time we should analyze what went wrong and prepare ourselves to face future epidemics with a better strategy.

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>>16181733
>more primitive versions that also have caused a problems to a number of people
The issue with this being that problems caused by attenuated or deactivated viruses are usually problems with the batch and contamination and not an inherent problem with the design that should never have been overlooked, for a nebulous benefit that people knew wouldn't matter.

Want to know one of the reasons why I personally did not get the vaccine? Because I was lucky enough to be curious to read an article that touched on how fucking stupid it is to try and make a vaccine for a coronavirus, wholesale. The mutation rate is too fast, and anyone with a basic knowledge of immunology you get from a bio 101 course and a functioning brain can guess that immunizing yourself over and over again for a virus that is going to change by the time you get vaccinated is a self defeating idea in the first place. There's next to no reason to even get it unless you were in one of the "at risk" groups, and yet it was peddled as if it had a clear benefit, when the data in retrospect not only shows that this wasn't the case, in fact it was probably hazardous in terms of immunity, but that even at the time that's what the data suggested, when you knew what you were actually looking for.

There's something to be said about administering useless treatments out of fear and ignorance. This is the same mentality that has given rise to the antibiotics crisis looming on the horizon. Worse than running the risk of doing nothing, you run the risk of doing harm. The mrnas didn't even have functioning LNPs. They didn't take into account transcription skipping or whatever. And they wear down the immune system for less functional immunity, pumping cytotoxic proteins into people's bloodstream so that we can all pretend people are safe from a virus that wasn't dangerous past the first 12 months, to anyone.
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>>16181748
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>>16181733
My state's senator tried to hold a public discourse over vaccine side effects. People who suffered egregious side effects, including the loss of their children to the vaccine. Somebody's kid DIED. Pilots lost the ability to safely fly their planes, and an airforce doctor was soft fired for speaking out about this. A female soldier suffered such bad physical side effects, she couldn't go to ranger school.

What happened to these verifiable facts, these things that actually happened to real people, DIRECTLY because of the vaccine, with a temporal relationship so obvious you'd have to be retarded to deny it? Swept under the rug. Taken off youtube, off google, the internet, completely. Wiped. It happened though. To who knows how many people. Want to know why I don't give a shit about your experience as a doctor? The same reason you won't care that teenagers die from heart attacks immediately after taking the vaccine, or discount the hundreds of cases you can hear about, right now, from going on /pol/ or something and starting a thread. It's not real data, it's ignorance, it's fearmongering. Bullshit it is. Anyone with a brain who was reading about the vaccine and the virus knew it was trouble, and they knew the reasons why. Being a doctor doesn't absolve you of the responsibility of having to learn how something actually works and what its actual outcomes will be. That's legwork you still have to do, and you can't handwave it because it's convenient and easy.
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>>16181758
>The same reason you won't care that teenagers die from heart attacks immediately after taking the vaccine, or discount the hundreds of cases you can hear about, right now, from going on /pol/ or something and starting a thread
I do care, personally I have never advised my patients to vaccinate their children, I don't think children vaccination was big in my country. I do however have a couple of children who claim to suffer of long covid syndrome (I'm not sure about it though because I only started seeing them years around 6 months ago and there seems to be a psychological factor at the very least, their work ups are still ongoing). I also have never fought to convince someone who was against the vaccine to get it, I've always did my best to explain it to them in terms they could understand so that they could chose for themselves, and have always been transparent about my own vaccination status. Keep in my mind that I, as a doctor, was among the first to be vaccinated. I was also on the first line during the epidemics and was exposed to the patients who had caught it long before the vaccine was available. It's easy to just categorize people you disagree with as plain evil.

Also, it's funny that you mention those hundreds of cases on /pol/, I go there sometimes, I check those informations on google. Literally 99% of them are misleading if not blatant lies. As I said, I'm very open to hear about the side effects, I think we should look for them, but if you want to convince me I will treat you to the same standards I treat everything else, don't expect me to just take your word for it.

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With few exceptions academia wholeheartedly refuses to talk about this subject and racial supremacists aren't exactly objective. Obviously we can be diverse in physical size and appearance. I'm more interested in IQ and temperament which have been proven to be at least partly influenced by genes.
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>>16150852
Eskimos evolved in an extremely hostile environment. Consequently they were subject to selection pressures that did not affect other peoples.

Their large craniums can be an expression of heat retention. Because in cold climates all species evolve to be bulkier.
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>>16150929
I don't think arguing that those with SSA DNA never achieved enough to be entombed is helping your case.

>where are the mummies from
Nearly irrelevant as Egypt was a slim tube of fertile land around the Nile. The people were concentrated there. Additionally, Egypt had a great deal of internal trade and administrative travel. The kinds of people wealthy or important enough to get entombed were traveling around. Plus many crypts were built near important temples or pyramids for the VIP to be interred after their death. That was not always, maybe even rarely close to where the people actually lived. A reasonable cross selection of the Egyptian upper classes, so to speak. Oh and there were also servants and similar embalmed. Those could have been from anywhere in Egypt.

Really, you should rather be arguing about the timespans involved making 90 mummies a small number. Instead of layering a map of modern day Egypt on the Great Satan.
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>>16150929
thats a misleading graphic because everyone in egypt lives along the nile
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Aw sweet, a physical anthropology thread
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>>16145668
>First of all, I dont think there is such a thing as 'genetic distance' or 'fixation index'.
>Second, neither do I believe in these arbitrary subclasses such as 'caucasian', 'mongoloid', 'negroid'.
Then write a paper of your own that argues in favour of your beliefs, publish it, and revolutionize the field of anthropology. Go get 'em, tiger.
>Different humans can still make kids, so that makes them belong to same species.
This just in: lions and tigers are the same species and so are dogs 'n' coyotes. Horses and donkeys? Same species.

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What happens if an advanced civilization develops on a rogue star are they just doomed to never ever go to another star system.
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>>16176056
Earth's gravity-well is deep enough to keep humans down, and Mars got giga-nuked to eradicate life making it unusable as affordable starting point for space colonization.
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>>16175661
Not going anywhere without near light speed travel.

Which would require incredible technological advances over what we have presently.
Therefore we need to increase the numbers of the people capable of sustained innovation, concentrate all our natural and human resources on STEM education and technological development, while greatly reducing the number of unproductive and less intelligent members of our society, while also eliminating wasteful consumerism.

>Proceed to do exactly the opposite of that.

We aren't going anywhere outside this gravity well.
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>>16175661

You build a planet-size spaceship or turn your whole system into a spaceship so it can endure a voyage lasting millions of years. Alternatively, you build a Dyson sphere to send ships 99% of the speed of light so it barely experiences the voyage. If you want to travel to other galaxies, you need to think BIG.
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>>16181170
Exactly, stellar engines. as long as the star system has more than one terrestrial planet, it's not (too) far-fetched for them to eventually be capable of building a caplan thruster and a small dyson swarm.
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>>16181503
You may not even need to disassemble a planet, you can build a small dyson swarm out of asteroids and other debris and then use it to starlift all the material that you need

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Level with me /sci/, is this the "install gentoo" of the physics world, or is it actually something you recommend? It has really positive reviews for a supposed hard book, and surely they cannot all be posers.

Has it been surpassed?
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>>16181237
>In terms of comparable depth of coverage
Sommerfield or the Pauli lectures
>but with the latest pedagogy, type setting
But I don't know how recent the latest editions are
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>>16181237
For what it's worth a friend loved Greiner and Scheck.
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>>16181160
>taking dicks up my ass does not make me a homosexual
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>>16181237
Walter Greiner has a series of books as well, which go into depth. I wouldn't necessarily call them pedagogical though, very dense and all problems are just additional derivations that he didn't fit into the chapter.
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>>16181598
Oh I get in now, they're engineers!

[math]/\mathfrak{mg}/[/math]

the King of mathematics edition
talk maths, formerly >>16135585
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>>16181307
For the gen alphas like you: Gauss had the skibidi rizz.
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>>16181099
Where does my post say anything about print quality? I know a lot of Springer stuff is print to order, I'm just saying the book I got on sale recently wasn't.
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>>16181270
based. when Gauss was a kid, JS Bach’s kids and grandkids already busy fucking up the Bach family name. I wouldn’t want my retard mongrel Hapa kids associated with my legacy either
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>>16181171
Used to, old Springer prints are beautiful. What you get from them nowadays are shoddy print-on-demands.
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>>16181270
HAHAHAHA omfg, such an asshole thing but you see his point a little. Like if MJ or Lebron forbade his kids from playing

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hi this is my first time using 4chan so I have absolutely no clue if i’m doing this right… can anyone help me identify this bacteria? ive done a multitude of tests with it and narrowed it down to either b. badius, b. cereus, or b. megatarium. (there is confirmation from my professor that it is in fact one of these.)

occurs in chains and singly
gram stain: positive
catalase: positive
starch hydrolysis: positive
grows yellow colonies on MSA agar, no pH change/acid production
positive reaction to spirit blue agar (aka lipase)
casein positive
also its about 1x4 :3

if you need any other info please let me know! the colonies are cream colored and quite dense, not really any particular shape however

my best guess is megatarium cuz of the tests thus far and i also had an old colony turn yellow and apparently that’s a unique trait!
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>>16179441
You're lucky to even have some key words popping up, although I do agree the situation is far from good to anyone.
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>>16180970
Doing PCR to find out if a bacteria is gram positive is just overkill.

>>16180972
>You're lucky to even have some key words popping up
How so?
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>>16181012
He's looking for a species ID. To tell gram, he just needs to do some staining.
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>>16179243
>>16179269
they look fucking discusting
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>>16181552
So you are you faggot but you don't here anyone being a bitch about it

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Get a degree in business. Climb the corporate ladder or go into business for yourself. Also consider a job in government, or criminal justice. You don’t want to end up homeless do you anon?

>https://x.com/joedirt501/status/1783974688970125485
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>>16179343
That's what I got on this
https://realiq.online/
which is supposed to be 99% accurate. On the WAIS my GAI was like 130 but my short memory and speed subtests were like 85 IQ cuz my memory and attention are so completely fucked due to ridiculous panic, OCD, insomnia, etc.
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>>16179495
>I recommend not living in the united states.
>50% tax in germany
I recommend not living in Germany. Holy fuck I cannot imagine having that much of my income stolen. I make $60k per year and if I add up all my taxes at the end of the year they account for less than 15% of my gross income.
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>>16179483
You sound alright - it sucks being surrounded by NPCs and held to impossible standards that they implicitly know and obey. I've never held any form of employment since it's so far outside my comfort zone of academic stuff and based on awkward interviews and normie headgames, wtf.
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>>16149008
dont care fag
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>>16157938
I receive:
>obedience
>loyalty
>a quarter of your income
>the right to send you off to war against your will
You receive:
>nothing lol pull yourself up by the bootstraps faggot

LAND OF THE FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>Eugenics is bad because...BECAUSE IT JUST IS OK
>it does NOT benefit a society to have people who are stronger, smarter, and healthier

What actual arguments can be made against eugenics? I'm not even saying restricting certain people from breeding (although that should be a thing too, but only in extreme cases such as chemically castrating pedophiles), but simple incentives and programs for people who have certain desirable genes. Why is this often turned into a moral issue? Why would it not objectively improve society?
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>>16181605
>You know, maybe "complexity" is not actually the right word
Possible. As I'm parroting the term from Edward Dutton. I use it as a neat way to skirt around the argument that gets thrown up if I try to convey the concept that African cultures are general far less advanced than Western European ones. By calling them both "civilization" people get less offended, even if a great deal of these "civilizations" we're people chucking spears and hunter gathering.
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>>16181620
>then they would select against it.
Select against what? They would destroy the world as something undesirable. Then, they would probably die.
>If people encouter a problem they will solve it.
And eugenics goes directly against it - it lets you cull those who are best at dealing with the problems that tgey encounter, in favor of something that you have arbitrarily chosen as "better".
>>16181633
If complex civilization is more beneficial, then it will rise without the need for eugenics, and you have nothing to worry about.
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>>16181633
>Only due to the dysgenic selection pressures it creates.
Why would civilization create dysgenic selection on people living in it? People who live in civilization adapt to be better at living in civilization, and in turn, strive to uphold the civilization that they are adopted to thrive in. The only reason why dysgenics would occur is that somebody runs a misguided eugenics project on its people, with wrong ideas about what makes one well suited for living in civiluzation. For example, you have two people: one is very well adapted to advanced civilization, and the other is adapted poorly. You want both to become a car mechanic. One of them needs nine years of primary education, four years of high school, four years to get a bachelor's degree, two years of interships, and a certified car mechanics course.

Another one can learn to understand and fix the car if allowed to at least partially disassemble it, or otherwise learn enough about its parts and their function.


Now which one is which?
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>>16181649
>Select against what?
The deleterious trait idiot.
>And eugenics goes directly against it
How?
>it lets you cull those who are best at dealing with the problems that tgey encounter,
No it doesn't. Being a welfare queen is advantagious from "evolution's perspective" because you pump out more offspring.
Being a welfare queen doesn't help complex civilization. Therefore being a welfare queen is bad. This is very simple, you must understand this and are trying to wind me up.

>If complex civilization is more beneficial, then it will rise without the need for eugenics, and you have nothing to worry about.
It has you moron, what do you think you're in right now?
Eugenics is needed to maintain civilization otherwise this >>16178607 cycle plays out.

It's a shame nobody can offer a logical retort to eugenics, because it means i'm right.
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>>16181740
read this >>16178607 idiotic troll

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Is there some truth behind it?
Is this kind of research just not considered politically correct in this day and age or was it just bullshit all along?
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>>16175964
suppose you made an intelligence test, but when administered to a class of literal retards, they all scored 90% on it. what would you conclude about the accuracy of said test?

>>16177930
no one denies that there's a genetic component to intelligence. what is in dispute is whether our mostly political classifications of "race" accurately predict intelligence.
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>>16177622
It is presumably (you) who
>hints at causation, outside the scope of the discussion
>'answering' but completely missing the point and avoiding all substance also the graph itself too has nothing to do with causation
>refuse to read what you clearly havent read but needed to reply to
>complain about no substance
KEK mongrel.
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>>16177610
The pictures are just there to keep your attention. Point is intelligence and other pro-social traits rise under harsh darwinian selection pressures found in low complexity civilization in particular places on earth (not most of africa sadly).
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>>16181584
>hints at causation, outside the scope of the discussion
Why is it outside the scope of this discussion? What kind of /sci/ence are we doing here where we're not allowed to ask questions about observed phenomena?
>'answering' but completely missing the point
What is the point? Other than 'xdd blacks stoobid rofl'
Heckin' KEK my dude! Holy BASED! Get in libtard, we're saving western civilization.
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>>16180999
It's well known that LLM are not intelligent, but IQ test well. Pic related.
This calls into question the validity of IQ tests, or if you doggedly assert the validity of IQ tests, the validity of Spearman's hypothesis itself.

>>16178033
White supremacy is an axiom. Under their framework, IQ tests are valid, because they produce results that don't contradict the axiom. This is by design: as Edwin Boring once said, "Intelligence is what an intelligence test measures."

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>Turing Award
>Abel Prize.
Avi Wigderson mogs Ed Witten. Change the sticky.
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>>16180007
with that hairline, he must be swimming in prime nerdy puss puss. What a chad
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>ahem
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>>16180007
>Change the sticky.
hey, im the guy that suggested witten for the sticky, so youre gonna have to go through me first, buddy.
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>>16180961
That doesn't sound difficult
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>>16180057
Witten is a string monkey

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Back in the late 80s and 90s, did we stop the ozone layer damage by banning chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs), or the damage never began in the first place?
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>>16181449
>t. doesn't know why there are sluice gates at panama
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>>16180059
>picrel
Would make her throw away all deodorants, on ecological reasons, and proceed to clean her armpits with my tongue.
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>>16181491
I assume you're an ESL too arrogant to accept that you misread and misunderstood my post.
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>>16181511
>the concept of concentration gradient eludes him
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>>16181444
>international cooperation
wtf do you mean? the turd world still manufactures and uses tons of CFCs

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I just took a WAIS-IV IQ test and it turns out my IQ is a measly 143. I was a bit sleep deprived and had heard some bad news just before taking the test, and got flustered and tilted halfway due to a poorly worded trivial question (two cakes can bake in 30 minutes, how long would it take to bake 8 cakes? I asked if all 8 could fit in the same oven because then it would be 30 minutes again, but the tester just ran out my time) but other than that I did my best. The highest I could've gotten with perfect conditions is probably around 146 or so. How do I cope with being such a massive fucking retard?
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Please help! My IQ is only 220, how do I not kill myself knowing I am mentally retarded? How can one possibly cope with such a low IQ like mine?!
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Suck me off
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>>16181718
220 is decent bro, ygmi. Just make sure you breed a 200+ woman or your offspring will be retarded
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>>16181718
bro how tf you get 220 that's like taking 3 iq tests and getting an average of 73% on each on lmao retard

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKhX1YaxUxc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1SVpGT7sN8
NASA BTFO
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>>16172676
Is Boeing making this shit?
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>>16181082
They spent 88 billion? Gimme some sort of source for that. I hate the government and think it wastes money, but even to me that sounds hard to waste.
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>>16181082

>then how were they able to spend $88 billion on a $500million telescope?

because the DoD has a bottomless budget and can do whatever they want without having to justify it to congress every two years. You are not arguing seriously and are trolling.
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>>16181082

This is bait, you are just pretending to be retarded. But I'm a miscast and I'll bite.

Altair
Ares I
Ares V
Earth Departure Stage (Constellation)


Project Prometheus
Toggle the table of contents
X38
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HL-20

Space Technology 3
Space Technology 4
Earth Observing 2
Earth Observing 3 (GIFTS)

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>>16181656
NASA and the Department of Defense have separate budgets.


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