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First for best duo!

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First for best solo!

Futaloo get!

>>41058753
>new (I think?) pic
>this entire ITT
Good bake.

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>>41058798
>off by one
The small filly with the big willy has forsaken us...

>>41058835
>The small filly with the big willy
Read this to the tune of Dani California

>>41058562
>You'd like this to be "tear down the world and rebuild it piece-by-piece with 1000 years of history under the show's Luna reign"
That would be great, though I'd also be happy with just 1-2 major changes as long as they're handled in an interesting way. There needs to be something to seriously differentiate the swapped AU from non-swapped canon/fanon Equestria. And I think it was reasonable for me to expect to see that given the description and tags on this fic.

>also it makes a lot of sense that this premise and the 1000 years of ruling caused Luna to get softer than the show's Luna
Actual dogshit take. There is more than one way to run a country. If you can't imagine Luna ruling for 1000 years and ending up different from canon Celestia, that's a lack of creativity on your part and nothing more.

>>41058584
>what would be different enough for you? Like Hollowshades as the capital and bats as nobles instead of unicorns?
That would be a good start, yeah. Or instead of having the typical annoying, useless nobles that Luna complains about, have nobles who take their positions seriously and act in the interests of the Crown because Luna long ago put the fear of Faust into them. Or, for a different angle, have Luna be more aloof, rarely making public appearances.

>>41058588
>Chilling her out did put her closer to Celestia in some aspects, but you've gone too far in declaring that it makes her the same as Celestia. It doesn't, and the fic has many, many scenes in which this is emphasized.
I would more specifically say that she handles most "big" decisions, such as ones related to running the country, like Celestia does, she talks like Celestia in public, and she treats Twilight pretty similarly to the way Celestia treats her. There are differences in personality that come out in more slice-of-life moments when Luna's alone or having a private conversation. But that's a pretty minuscule impact for what's supposed to be the defining change in this AU.

>"I am mad because I, the viewer, have perfect information, and the characters do not, so they make stupid choices"
What I mean by "fixfic" is basically: "the show writers screwed this up; now I'm going to do it better". I agree that the majority of fixfics are shitty like you describe. But there are also good ones, like this fic and Extended Cut.

Anyway, the more important point is not "is it a fixfic or not". It's that the majority of the differences from canon here are applying headcanons and reshuffling canon events in ways that could be done just as well with Celestia in charge, and if you look at only the changes that are directly connected to Luna, they have very little impact in comparison.

Alright, anons. Who’s in the lead for the dialogue contest? One is on the top of the featured list but I think they missed the memo about it having “dialogue” in it.

If your story is set outside of season one you're doing something wrong.

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>>41058997
>though I'd also be happy with just 1-2 major changes as long as they're handled in an interesting way
You should by all accounts be ecstatic, then, because we get at least three:
#1 is Sunset not getting into a fight with Tia because Luna's more free (I don't want to say less manipulative) approach to mentioning avoids it, which is a huge change that impacts Twilight, Luna, and lets the finale of the fic happen in any capacity.
#2 is batponies, which are mentioned a hundred times, show up as a plot point in almost every chapter, and play an important role in a few of those
#3 is, last but most definitely not least, DB instead of NMM as the season villain, with all that it entails.
All three of those are directly caused by Luna being Luna rather than her sister. A lot of other changes, like the bugs peace talks, also stem from Luna's character, and it's up to you whether that's major enough or not. None of this happens in "merely" Fixficuestria; it needs to be LunAU.

>If you can't imagine Luna ruling for 1000 years and ending up different from canon Celestia
I never said that. You could approach this premise from a ton of different points and write it how you'd like. All I'm saying is that the version this fic chose is among the reasonable ones, and so it's not wrong to pick it if that's what you need to tell the story that you'd like to tell. In this case, it was this SoL-like story of Luna in an AU that's relatively close to the show.
Going for these massive AU changes like some of what other possible Lunas would do is also fair, but it would detract from the "comfy" atmosphere and cozy Luna that the author wanted to write, so it's not as simple as picking a better or worse solution. I'd have to read that hypothetical other fic you'd like this to be, but there's a decent chance I'd still prefer the one we got (assuming the errors got fixed and all that).

Also, I think your definition of a fixfic is fine, but a lot of people have a bit different and a lot more negative one, hence the disagreement there. Like, Extended Cut comes super close to the line for me, but I think it's still not there, primarily because it doesn't read like a fixfic to me. Probably because the writer didn't want to "correct" the show, but rather expand on it, do their own, Alternate Universe, take on the story.

>>41059183
>approach to mentioning
*mentoring

>>41059183
>I don't want to say less manipulative
But you wouldn't be wrong. Even if her canon reaction to reuniting with Sunset has her on the kinder side.

So I looked up the book, and I find the mare that once lived on the moon, rather than sun.
Am I being rused?

>>41059252
It was Moon and Stars.

>>41059252
If you're serious, the book club fic was "Moon and Stars". That first line in the anchor was just a silly jab at some of the surface-level similarities between the finales of the two fics, despite it being a Luna AU where Daybreaker Celestia was the exiled one.

As of today, I've moved all of my daily text editing to Emacs. Wish me luck.

>>41059183
>#1 is Sunset not getting into a fight with Tia
>#2 is batponies
>#3 is, last but most definitely not least, DB instead of NMM as the season villain
So what you're saying is, for the first 970 years after the banishment, there are literally no differences from canon except for having slightly more batponies around?

I can argue the specifics of your three points, but I don't think it's really necessary. Just compare those three with the three ideas from my post (capital in Hollow Shades, nobles kept in line, aloof ruler), which would have more clearly established that Luna, not Celestia (Blue), has been in charge for the whole 1000 years.

>Going for these massive AU changes like some of what other possible Lunas would do is also fair, but it would detract from the "comfy" atmosphere and cozy Luna that the author wanted to write
I don't think that's true. Nearly the entire story would still work with the three changes I mentioned above. The one about the nobles would even fit pretty well with the end of the fic: DB comes back expecting the nobles to all be useless sycophants, but in fact they're extremely loyal to Luna and scheming to get her back on the throne. Put in a bit of time expanding on these things, and the fic would be not only a good fixfic but also a decent Luna AU, like it claims to be.

>Also, I think your definition of a fixfic is fine, but a lot of people have a bit different and a lot more negative one
Yeah, I maybe should have chosen a different word there. Though this also seems to be fast approaching "Pirene is to good to be called HiE" territory

>>41059270
>>41059271
Oh right, I just saw the tail end as the dude said it has some cool 'fix' to the canon, and it's sometimes interesting to see how people make changes.
It's fun to laugh if they're really fucking retarded.

>>41058997
>There is more than one way to run a country.
There is an optimal way which both would naturally trend towards.

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>>41059276
>Nearly the entire story would still work with the three changes I mentioned above.
This deserves a counterpoint: There are many parts of the fic which emphasize how much Luna wants to rule like her sister.
In the prologues, it emphasizes how much Luna respects the work that Celestia is doing in her statecraft.
In the Royal Guard swearing plot point, she is still maintaining the importance of the sun/moon duality to Equestrian politics.
She talks about Celestia to Twilight and her staff constantly. One of the points I mentioned to the author was that it didn't make sense to put weight on Luna namedropping Celestia to Twilight, given how much Luna talks about her everywhere else in the fic.
If it tried to emphasize how Luna ruling Equestria differs from Celestia, it would be quite different, due to conflicting with these things. It would not have nearly the emphasis on how much Luna was looking forward to having Celestia back, especially to the point of deceiving herself about Daybreaker's nature.

>>41059274
My condolences and heartfelt sympathies. You will be in my thoughts.

>>41059038
Nobody cares.

I have never taken an interest in David Silver, but I still have an unopened copy of Ponyfinder Campaign Setting. Tell me more.

>>41058755
Disgusting dykeshit
>>41059038
This

>>41059319
Have you already walked this path? Where does it end?

>>41059283
>I can't imagine a way to make this work, therefore there isn't one
Your lack of imagination is not an argument. It's been a while since I've seen this attitude here on /fimfic/, but it will never stop being cancer

>>41059317
>If it tried to emphasize how Luna ruling Equestria differs from Celestia, it would be quite different
Exploring the differences is exactly the point of a "what-if" AU fic. From the description, I thought that's what I would be getting here, and I was disappointed. This fic sets up the question of "what if Luna was in charge for 1000 years instead of Celestia?" and answers it with "everything would be exactly the same"

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>>41059455
>lack of imagination
>a self-identified "creative person" running things

>>41059365
Dunno about the game, but his fics generally suck. He writes soulless commissions for people on patreon (and I say that as someone who likes most of Starscribe's work). I read one of David Silver's ponyfinder fics, and it was okay for about the first 100 chapters, but then he brought in a patron's OC along with Sonata (patron's waifu), and the rest of the fic is just the OC being a complete asshole to Twilight, Sonata, and the rest of the cast.

should I fix my life before trying to write an epic longfic?

>"You have a horn and wings?" she asked in disbelief. "But—but—all the proper classical sources have unicorns and winged horses—"
>"Pegasi," Sunset provided.
>Hermione shook her head. "No, no; you see, Pegasus was the name of a specific winged horse—and it's Greek, anyway, not Latin, so that's not how you'd pluralize—"
>"Girl, I come from a magical land of talking ponies, and we call them 'pegasi.'"

>>41059499
Did something update?

>>41059495
Your struggles will bleed into your garbage which will make it more interesting. Remember: there is no such thing as a mentally well artist. I am totally serious for real.

>>41059520
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/548013/sunset-shimmer-crumple-horned-snorkack

>>41059537
>Same author as Sharing the Night
What the fuck?

>>41059578
No idea, but it's another good "Sunset goes to Hogwarts" fic aside from Magic Mirror, so I'll take it

https://www.fimfiction.net/story/538586/beyond-the-veil-of-sleep
Just realized it finished. Anyone confirm if it's good or not? It's high on my read list given it has the exact same premise as Conviction but isn't a deadfic.

>>41059499
>Hermione
For a second, I thought Hailey Anon finally got his fix.

>>41059032
>7. Thoughts do count as dialogue for this contest.
>12. Narration type thoughts are iffy. The general idea with thoughts is it being used in a way people would actually think, so stuff like 'heres what I'm doing, how I'm feeling, how I'm doing it, etc' are usually not going to be accepted because that's not how people think. However, if you're creative enough with it and can make it work in such a way it makes sense and is realistic, exceptions may be made on a judge-to-judge basis.
I think it's not really in the spirit of the competition, but it doesn't break the rules, and even if it did, it'd get an exception made for it since everyone is apparently in love with it.

My mom just entered surgery.
I'll distract myself by reading and writing fics.
What's a good short~ish story that keeps you from pondering your mortality?

>>41060545
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/459906

>>41060545
Incest porn.

>>41060545
Not Life is a Lemon or Sun Princess.

>>41060590
>>41060601
>>41060640
This thread has the bedside manner of Dr. House.

>>41060642
I love House, it's my favourite Sherlock Holmes adaptation.

>>41060668
I admit I squealed like a teenaged girl when a green I was reading had a surprise House cameo.

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>>41060320
I just finished reading it. Eh, for what it's worth, it's a decently well-written story and the choice of topic and the whole le meta aspect of it makes me think it'll likely just win the whole thing. If you don't care for the story, here's the synopsis:
>Twiggles in the far future manages to cobble together a machine that can talk to (You), the actual reader, and she says a lesser part of the reason why she managed to endure all that happened to her is because of (You)r observance, the rest obviously being her friends and all that.
It's sweet really, yet I just can't shake the feeling that this story is meta to an extent that kills off all my personal enjoyment from it. My issue isn't that it's a "character talks to reader" story, I did that with my balloon story too. Rather that the fic leans into its own metaness to a level I rarely see and it completely breaks my immersion. I hope you understand what I mean.
It's the sort of story where I can appreciate the technical parts, but end up left completely cold, which is a shame because it goes for a very heartfelt ending.

>>41059437
You either become an EXWM dwelling Emacs shaman with a 7k line literate coded init.el, with 4 chord bindings to literally everything... or you realize it's simply not really worth the hassle and go back to Vim or, god forbid, VSCode and enjoy 90% of the benefits for 1% of the work.
I deeply respect Emacs for what it is and I'd say I can use it fairly comfortably, but its ridiculous hackability has always kept it from having reasonable modern defaults. Unless you install a distro, in which case, really, you should just use an IDE.

>>41060745
Got to admit, that's pretty much been my opinion so far. The best part of Emacs is the incredible customisation. The worst part is that the defaults are so bad that you need it.

>>41060745
>Rather that the fic leans into its own metaness to a level I rarely see and it completely breaks my immersion. I hope you understand what I mean.
100%. I can never put my finger on what exactly it is that separates good meta elements from the bad ones, but for me, the point when the meta shit becomes the entire story is usually where it all falls flat. This was one of such stories, and I've gotten next to no enjoyment out of reading it. I don't really want to leave a dislike on it because there's nothing strictly wrong about the fic, but I find this kind of thing cheap and disappointing.

>>41060784
I feel meta is one thing that *generally* only works in comedy. Like, the moment you point out that "this is a story", the reader's immersion is immediately diminished if not outright shattered. Which is fine when the plot is an elaborate joke or series of jokes, but not when you're trying to make someone feel.
I'm honestly curious, can anyone here name an instance of meta elements in a fic that's not played for laughs and works?
>I don't really want to leave a dislike
Yeah, same. I'd feel bad for downvoting it, but on the other hand it just wasn't much fun.

>>41060812
Comedy is the easy answer, but I think it can also work as one layer of a story; it's much easier for interactive media. I mean, you can probably think of many examples yourself, but even the memed-to-oblivion Undertale handled it fine. Not necessarily an explicit "this is a story" thing (although I wouldn't say it's not doable), but having the reader be an acknowledged part of the story being told can work out alright without ruining the rest of it. But, I think, the characters need to have their own agency and they need to have a story aside from just waving to the guy in front of the screen.

>>41060745
>the choice of topic and the whole le meta aspect of it makes me think it'll likely just win the whole thing
>but end up left completely cold, which is a shame because it goes for a very heartfelt ending.
Yea, I read it at work and it felt like a complete waste of time and I also immediately thought that it's probably going to win

>>41059958
>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/538586/beyond-the-veil-of-sleep
>Just realized it finished. Anyone confirm if it's good or not?
I got halfway through it or so but haven't bothered to finish. It's kind of weird and I didn't really get into it. A lot of it just seemed weird and nonsensical to me. The MC gets a familiar who's supposed to help her but mostly doesn't. MC gets backstabbed but it's not really clear why. Stuff happens in the deramlands just because.

One thing I particularly didn't like was the bit where the MC wakes up and finds that a scam artist has moved in and is getting rich charging poor ponies for a chance to see the "Sleeping Priestess", and the MC just kind of goes "meh, not my problem" and leaves her to it.

Another issue is one of the side characters that gets introduced partway through. They're kind of useless and it's not really clear what their purpose is in the story (kind of like the familiar). They're also explicitly a "they". I found this surprisingly annoying to read - turns out I much prefer Ancillary Justice's gimmick of just calling every character "she" regardless of gender.

I'm probably being too harsh on this fic, but I just really could not get into whatever was going on there. And I normally like most of Starscribe's stuff.

>>41060320
I don’t want to be a hater just because it’s popular but I didn’t enjoy it much. I don’t mind meta, but just having paragraph after paragraph of twiggle summarize her life and talk at the screen was, I dunno, kinda boring? I wasn’t able to get emotionally invested. I’m going to chalk it up to a personal taste issue on my part. It’s not poorly written, I’ll give it that.

>>41061120
>I’m going to chalk it up to a personal taste issue on my part.
That's what I thought, too, but so far we've had at least four anons say pretty much exactly this. At some point it can't be just a taste issue.

>>41061120
>but just having paragraph after paragraph of twiggle summarize her life and talk at the screen was, I dunno, kinda boring?
That really is all it was huh? Twilight talking about shit we already know, but now in the context of talking at us and le epic she made us click the story. If the ending was a joke about making the judges vote for her I woulda kek'd and liked the story way more.
>>41061127
I was astonished when I finished it and it had 126-0 ratio. Truly just the snowball effect from the sinbox I guess. I hope someone with actual dialogue kicks it out soon but I doubt that'll happen

>>41061127
>>41061160
Thank you, anons. I thought I was going insane.
Anyway, I liked the IKEA fic. It reminded me of myself last week. I’m just biased towards comedy for short stories. If something is going to tug at my heartstrings, I need a bit of buildup.

>>41060825
I’ll be honest, undertale’s meta moment where it closed the game blew my dick open like a bento box sausage octopus. To be fair, I was in high school and didn’t even know games were able to close themselves like that, but it was a good memory. I think meta is good so long as there’s an element of surprise. The fic in question showed its hand from the get go which ruined it for me.

>>41061245
Surprise, but foreshadowed. Video games like Metal Gear Solid and Undertale can use the fact they have stuff like tutorials and blunt exposition to more surprisingly break the fourth wall and go meta. You don't want to be half-way through All Quiet on the Western Front only for the main character to go "Boy, I'm sure glad you're safe at home, dear reader" out of nowhere, in actual dialogue.

>>41061245
>blew my dick open
Congrats on your transition.

>>41061263
Good point.
>>41061264
Thanks, doc :^(

I get the awful feeling that I won't read tonight.

>>41061717
Holy faurk it’s goon-ah

>>41061120
I'm the first downvote. I agree with others that it's rather too meta, but that's not my real objection. My objection is that its purpose is to pat you on the back.

It's not a story in the conventional sense. It doesn't try to impress you with plot twists or characterization or beautiful prose or any of the things normal fiction does to get an upvote. Strip away the parts where Twilight tells us things we know about Equestria (boring) and the parts when she talks about the workings of her machine (only there to flavor her monologue). You're left with her discovering and contacting the reader. She says it was hard and took a long time. Why did she invest all that effort? Is there an interesting story behind it? She tells us exactly why: "The reason I brought you here was to say… thank you." In other words: "You're so awesome! Now that you feel good, gimme an upvote!" It's a violation of the implicit contract between a writer and a reader. The whole goal of this story is not to entertain you but to make you feel smug and complacent. I don't like when people try to manipulate me that way, so I don't like this fic.

>>41062054
That’s exactly it. I couldn’t say it better myself.

>>41062054
Now, if it talked down to me and insulted me instead - that would be a story worth liking

Skirts fan here.

https://www.fimfiction.net/story/341625/around-the-world-in-81-days-and-other-problems-caused-by-leap-years

Good fic and I would recommend it if you like edgy. I liked it because it's edgy. But sometimes it's too edgy and Spike will scream too much and characters will be okay with that for, at least to me, no logical reason. The ending reminds me of Harry Haller getting high at the end of Steppenwolf. Spike falling in love with the Djinn princess was pretty cool. But Spike, who is supposed to be a kid, is wiser beyond his years. What the author does to show this is have a kid win arguments against old and studied politicians in a Japanese gasping sort of way. Very uncool. Twilight comes off as useless throughout the story and even after having been proved wrong by Spike on various things she still doesn't listen to him. Twilight is supposed to be studious AND smart. But I think she was very cute with the prince. Actually, it's the first time I read a romance with her in which I'm not autistically jealous. The literal ending sentence is too cheesy for me.
I liked the lore and the world building. I remember asking for a fic that shows the world in a thread here in like 2018 and got that story suggested.

https://www.fimfiction.net/story/111620/scale

This will be my next fic. A goodie because it's a SS&E classic.

>>41062919
Tangentially related, but is there a story behind why Skirts doesn't seem to reply to any comment, ever? Like, is he just a stuck up bitch with delusions of grandeour who's not willing to talk down to common pawns like readers, or is there something else?

>>41063026
I think he's just really, really autistic.

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>>41063370
And what's wrong with that?

>>41062919
>around-the-world-in-81-days-and-other-problems-caused-by-leap-years
Isn't this the one where the whole world outside Equestria is an IRL-tier shithole and the story paints Twilight as unbearably naive for wanting things to be better?

>>41063386
>170
I can't believe I'm only borderline autistic.

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>>41063387
You found one of the people responsible for its ratio, despite that.

>>41063386
I like how reading&writing fics instantly puts you into borderline autistic regardless of anything else. That's probably accurate.

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>>41063386
>even a conservative estimate puts me around 380

>>41063386
What constitutes a neck beard?

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>>41063437
Looking like Emperor Nero.

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>>41063386
>1,121
Fucking highscore, naisu.

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https://www.fimfiction.net/story/537057/1/twilights-felquines-of-xenon/twilights-felquines-of-xenon

Leave Twilight's Felquines of Xenon to me.
https://vocaroo.com/1luRQsQF87aa

>>41063387
Yes. And the guy you're responding to is clearly a redditor.
>>41063386
>575
>>41063437
Failing to shave anywhere below your jawbone.

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>>41063386
>671 points
>diagnosed; just check /fimfic/ and the draw thread 90% of the time I’m here.
I may be autistic, but at least I’m not AUTISTIC autistic.

>>41063614
>just check /fimfic/ and the draw thread 90% of the time I’m here.
Sounds like +150 for circlejerking. Especially without the +25 for fanfic reading.

>not liking This Day Aria
>zero merch
Disgraceful.

>>41063545
>The voice comes out of pic related
>>41061323

>and these are the good guys in this universe.
>the alternative is ... marines, chaos marines and orks. (albeit the Eldar and The T'au are fighting for a pretty decent future, but they're not here)
>inb4 what am I fighting for?
Ponies anon... ponies. Deercats.

>>41063386
This thing is broken. I scored 0. I barely browse /mlp/ anymore.
Hm no actually it's quite accurate. I am a pretty normal guy all things considered.

>>41063637
That review must've stirred you out of your autistic slumber.
Please go back to it. No one's clicking your shitty fic.

>>41063645
Bitch don't mistake me for him.

>>41063386
>reading FanFiction + Merch is 35 points
>no devastating modifier for having physical fanfiction

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>>41063677
Remember having all 5 volumes of Fo:E sitting on a book shelf in your den is less autistic than either avatar posting or waifuing Luna.

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>>41063677
Whoever wrote that list definitely has a Celestia plush.

>>41063867
That's a very cute Luna
>>41063797
>I am looking for someone to share in an adventure that I am arranging, and it's very difficult to find anyone.

>>41063386
Go to bed + 180.
>>41063026
Skirts fan here. His fics are actually self inserts, imo. That's how he always has these monologues that start nowhere and end in nowhere. He's been doing it for years. Lyra Heartstrings to him is basically Noir from his 2000's Teen Titans fics. IIRC he's said in blogs and interviews that he distances self from people because... I don't recall. But you'll find the reason in his sad monologues. I wonder if he keeps in touch with people like Ponky.
>>41063387
And Spike too.
>>41063591
Happy?
>>41063797
I had the bgp book shipped from Moscow :^)

>>41063797
>
I don't usually believe in book burning...

>>41063935
>And Spike too.
And Spike no.
He starts out just as naive, but through "character development" he quickly learns to become a pragmatic, ruthless faggot over. Did you already forget how, e.g., in his argument with Twi he tells her that he nodded along to make her feel better, but that he was 100% sure that Twilight should've snapped that pony-Hitler's neck in half when she saw his as a diplomatic guest?
The fic presents Spike as the one who did learn the lesson, unlike Twilight. That's why the fics ends how it does, with Spike shaking his head at Twilight's naivety and leaving Equestria for the 'real' world.

>>41063391
>>41063420
>>41063591
>>41063644
>>41063935
go get your diagnosis. if not to get help, then to get gibs.

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>>41063797
OK, but what about having two different editions of it?

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>>41063386
>if you have an OC you are IMMEDIATELY a borderline autist

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r8 my shelf

>>41062919
>This created an incongruity in her schedule, which transformed her tour from an eighty-day jaunt—which was an entirely reasonable, round, aesthetically pleasing number—into an eighty-one day excursion, which as numbers went was suspect and liable to encourage moral deviancy in the youth.
slander. 81 is a perfect square and can do no wrong. 79, being a prime number, would be the closest morally degenerate number to 80

>>41064176
Nice wood frame. Looks very sturdy

>>41064201
Look at the pre-drilled holes for the shelf pins. That's veneer likely over cheap particle board.
3/10 shelf would not trust it to hold the weight of my horse autism.

>>41064197
Primes are intrinsically beautiful, but 81 is a fourth power, and fourth powers are bullshit.

If you like drama about the recent foalcon advisory list, you might also like https://www.fimfiction.net/story/557083/the-advisory It's not deep, but I still had a good time.

>>41064176
Gonna be honest, I couldn’t get into background pony. I like the cover for the book, though.

>>41064163
>+5 goes on /mlp/
>+75 writes fanfic
>+100 has an OC
They told me making a fanfic involving OCs was a bad idea, but I didn't believe them.
Now I'm retarded. ^:(

>>41063026
I think he's just on the silent side of the reply spectrum. You already have the author's notes and even blog posts if you want to talk to the readers about the fic.

>>41064040
>as a diplomatic guest
He wanted to trigger a massive diplomatic clusterfuck, potentially up to a casus belli? Sounds pretty retarded.

And I still want to know why Equestria hasn't been Berlin Conferenced yet if the rest of the world is a pack of wolves to Celestia's pasture full of sheep.

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Sweet, I'm almost ready to start posting some stuff. I just need to see if I can find some cheap watercolors to make a cover tomorrow.

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My story has finally achieved a hundred votes.
How should I celebrate?

>>41064769
Hunt down the detractors

>>41064124
I actually have tried. Well, I wasn't going for autism directly, more ADHD, but they did make a comprehensive test that measured both and the results were clear enough. Medically speaking I'm not a sperg.

>>41064769
Congrats, Anon!

>>41062903
NTA, but if a character isn't trying to kill me the first chance he gets, how am I supposed to respect him? "It turned out I'm less real than some other dude, now I'll proceed to do nothing about it". Pathetic.

I looked at the comments to the Twilight 'dialogue' fic at work today and fucking WEW lad. Shame about the competition

>adjective, adjective, noun
No you fucking idiot it's supposed to be
>adjective, adjective noun
I hate this so much.

>>41065079
Yeah that fucking sucks. It's not about not winning (you really shouldn't go into a contest expecting to win), but this taking first place would be really discouraging.

What are the best "Lunar angst" fics?

>>41065345
There are none

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>>41065345
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/224306/i-watch-the-moon for more sad and
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/7335/apotheosis or less sad

>>41065345
Practically every fic with Luna in them

There's a Luna fic I recall from quite a while back where it starts out with her eating noodles at a street vendor. She is wearing a hoodie as well.
It's a cyberpunk type thing, and she gets picked up by police or royal guard because she's wanted at the palace or something, if I recall she abdicated and is trying to live free of all the responsibility.

>>41065761
>fluff tuft
Unfortunate.

>>41065820
Can’t handle the tuft?
Captcha: WHAT

>>41065809
Sounds like Transistance.

>>41065907
Is it as much of a Blade Runner ripoff as that description makes it sound?

>>41065964
I think it does at least try to differentiate itself? It's been a while since I've read so a lot of the finer details are smudged for me. Apparently I've left a like on it despite mostly remembering it as 'eh', so I probably just need to reread it whenever. Maybe it'll go over better for you, though.

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"Man, I really need a good idea to base my big project on. I feel like a strong contribution to the fandom should really be something deeply tied to the show we love and exemplifies its positive traits, while being very pony-related. But I struggle with making some kind of AU or unrelated setting which is what my heart really desires. I need to balance these two desires and come to some ultimate decision..."
>open fimfic

Nevermind.

>>41066055
>light mode
Blegh, I bet you go outside every day, too.
>stick to the show for the fandom blah blah blah
Just write what you want to write. It’s fan fiction, not a graded assignment. I’ll read your spergy AU if you write it and I’ll probably like it, too.

>>41066236
I don't doubt people would enjoy whatever I make. Additionally, almost all the notable fics in this fandom that people enjoy and discuss are AUs in some form (DoWaS, FO:E, Past Sins, TEL). I suppose I personally have a rigid viewpoint and preferences that I wish to adhere to. That isn't to say these stories are worse or lesser. just that I have particular beliefs about fan content and these tend to clash with my real, true passion of making a dumb AU thing/ personal project, and I have to contend with these feelings to find some kind of solution.

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>>41065820
Imagine being this wrong.

>>41065381
Horrible horsiness. Silfoe is overrated, actually bad
>>41066055
It cannot be helped. But I wonder, is it because all the people who'd want to read more serious, in-universe stories left, or is there something else behind this?

>>41066727
as the real world increasingly turns to shit, the idea of abandoning it for a peaceful existence of hay eating and belly slapping seems more and more appealing.

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man which one of you glimmer fags made the space time continuum bite the pillow again?

>>41066727
Probably a combination of the fandom becoming more off-topic and full of general 'fandom slop' over time as it is disconnected from its purpose + these things are always the most popular so they stand out more in an era where less big projects are being made.

>>41066301
When creating a work of inconsequence, particularly fan work, allow personal joy to triumph over all other contradicting principles. I can feel it when someone has fun writing a fic within the words. Even if it doesn’t become a super popular fic, just seeing someone indulge in their fantasy scratches an itch for me as a reader. If you must, adhere to your principles, but as you do so I would suggest you push your boundaries because you might find something fantastic.

>>41066846
I genuinely want to give this my all. I would love nothing more than to sperg out with my own autism project and spend the next 5-10 years developing something great with it. It is something years in the making that I think about all the time. But a lot of doubt and insecurity follows me with this project. It makes it difficult to enjoy it and invest myself into it. I want to make an AU thing and it feels like I am making something less pony-related or 'fitting' for the fandom which gives me doubts. I mean, with how much I care about the spirit of mlp and its world, characters, etc, I bet I could pull it off very well even if it's an AU thing, but I am really brought down by how it feels like I am doing something 'wrong' or 'less related' with my big effort. Perhaps I am just overthinking it, or don't yet have a clear balance of the two set in stone to find comfort within just yet. Dunno.

>>41066887
I'm reminded of this guy over at /vp/.
He's making a super fuck huge Pokémon romhack based around Gen2.
He's only posted about it once. Said he's been working on it for close to a decade.
He also said he just wanted to post once. He's not going to bring it up again until it's finished, which may take another ten years. He's not sure.
Godspeed to that crazy guy.
And if he can do it, so can you.

>>41066055
>Celestia wakes up as a college student
At least it's not as bad as the one where the colt wakes up in the body of a homeless crack addict.

>>41058753
I just started reading "Background pony" in the starter pack and MAN. The rarity chapter just made me like her so much more than before. I was pretty guilty of seeing her as a bit 2 dimensional and I had a "dont hate but dont love" opinion of her character. Some people apparently rag on this fanfic for the purple prose type of writing but I think they wrote their sophistication with the intent and purpose of conveying specific ideas. So I think it justifies it.

>Basically discovering the desire to read these and discuss them with other readfags

Without spoiling pls, tell me what you guys thought about this fic

>>41066980
RUN AWAY FROM HERE AND FINISH READING.
That is all.

>>41066986
Damn I really did want some chums to talk to about it while I read but you're prolly right, gonna prioritize finishing it without spoilers.

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>>41066980
>rarity chapter just made me like her so much more than before
It's good to see another anon coming to his senses.
Jokes aside, I love this fic. Back when I read it, I intentionally limited myself to one chapter a week (later one a month) to let it live rent-free in my head for longer. It's still one of my favorite fimfics, probably even earning a spot in the very strongly contested top 5. I also really hate a part of it, but I won't say anything more about it yet to not spoil you. Though over time, I sort of accepted that the thing responsible for the part that I hate is also why the fic can exist in the first place.
The purple prose complaint is completely unjustified, imo; the prose is very thick, and it might scare away some readers who prefer lighter reads, but it's not needlessly purple. Exactly as you said, it sets the atmosphere super well and conveys a lot about Lyra.

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>I will never write a fic that is true art
How do I cope with being a brainlet that will only ever write 'for-fun' stories?

>>41067187
Realize that you're not competing with the hardcore quadrillion follower faggots, you're doing your own thing.
Realize that you have the power to make ten-twenty-a hundred people's day a little better just by creating.
It's that simple.

>>41067187
The only true art is the 'for-fun' stuff.

Should I post cut content after a fic is done with? Would it dilute what's already there with the what ifs and perhaps making readers go like "ah, why didn't you include this dude, that's so cool"? It's not usually done, so maybe I should just make a blog, and tell readers what didn't make it?

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>>41066727
It's OK horsiness. Silfoe is correctly rated, she has a wide range of art quality, largely due to having improved over the years.

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>>41067383
It's still done quite often, either as a blog or as an "extras" chapter tacked on to the end. I'd say the main reason to not do it is to not deal with readers who can't see how cutting it improves the story.

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>>41065825
>>41066546
Fluff is for furries, lads.
Take a look at a REAL mare.

>>41067483
Breeds like Vanners and Clydsedales have visibly fluffy coats. Not to mention ponies are usually fluffier than horses anyway.

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>>41067483
With all the respect to the zoobros fighting the good fight against furshit, it's impossible to find these literal animals attractive when actual ponies exist.

>>41067497
They have "feathered hooves" i.e. fluff around the pastern. They don't have fluffy coats and they certainly don't have chest floof.

>>41067383
>>41067425
>I'd say the main reason to not do it is to not deal with readers who can't see how cutting it improves the story.
Which is why it's better to post that as blogs linked in the description that can be ignored more easily by those who just want to read the story.

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What's the fastest you've gone from tabula rasa to a published fic?

>>41067684
Back in '14, we did some 30 minute prompted writing in these threads.
Wrote two one-shots in two days and posted them right after.
One of them is one of my highest rated stories to this day.

>>41067684
I wrote a fic in an hour once, for the thousand word contest. Compared to that, it wasn't even that bad.

>>41067684
I'm giving myself a DNF for that; speed is not my forte. Fastest was a fic in 3 days. Or a green, in one evening.

>>41067684
Wrote a story in one afternoon as a Breezie for Jinglemas one year, three hours total I think. Still one of my best works, too.

>>41067684
My highest rated fic took like 3 or so hours to write, while my less highly rated ones generally take weeks to months, so I wonder what that means.

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>>41067931
>>41067768
>>41067926

>>41066958
That sounds so fucking based please link it.

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this shit was hilarious

>>41067964
We keep our drunk homoseggs for special occasions, like Gala Con.

>>41067994
it's barely been a day since you last shilled, have some restraint.

>>41068011
i actually wasn't the one who posted it yesterday, but i was pleasantly surprised when I ctrl f'd

>>41068022
Fuck off

>>41068024
i always do, but suffer knowing that for once, someone else shilled my story here

i could never have dreamed of a higher honor c:

>>41068026
Get my wife's face out of your fucking post.

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>>41068026
idk who you are but i garuntee I've been using this flag in /fimfic/ since before you were born kid

retard nigger replied to the wrong post

>>41068037
>avatarfagging over a flag
Lol, lmao even.

>>41068037
Why do her teeth look inbred? Is this AI generated?

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Don't squabble, we can all be flutterflaggots.

>>41068058
I'd rather not.

>>41068051
My little animation errors

>>41068058
no
no no no no no no, NO

PLEASE DO NOT SAY THIS SHIT DO NOT GIVE THIS ***FUCKING*** SHITFUCKER THE SATISFACTION HE IS NOT WELCOME HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>41068058
Flutters somehow manages to be both my least liked M6 and the one I'd rate second cutest.

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>>41068051
Yes, it is! I have untold amounts of Fluttershy AI generated death ;)

>>41068037
Working hard to be remembered as the worst poster itt, I see. Don't worry, we haven't forgotten you yet.

>>41068080
there is no way i am the worst poster that has ever graced these threads

i'm also around a lot more than you probably think i am - you've probably engaged with and agreed with me before - i only flagpost when someone outs me for a little while before fading back, since i was taught flags are bad etequite

im learning!

>>41068102
>etequite
>im learning!
But not grammar, I see.

>>41068102
>i'm also around a lot more than you probably think i am
Clearly not often enough if you're double-spacing two word paragraphs.

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>>41068143
>>41068148

ah but dont you guys see typing like a retard when im flagposting is part of my act to make sure you don't recognize me when im not

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>>41068176
>This Fluttershy
Were you behind this too?

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>>41068189
I don't use Stable Diffusion. NovelAI doesn't create freak-ass shit like this

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>Get the urge to come back to attempt fanfiction again
>Distraught on whether to continue my old fanfiction or just start a new
What would you do?

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>>41068200
I always find it gratifying to come back and conquer a fic I started before. However, the big deciding factor for me is was it abandoned - as in, published chapters and then left - or was it something you started but never published at all?

I'm more motivated by seeing my fics in the "newest" box, so if its already been out, I'm less excited about it.

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>>41068200
Finish up your old one, especially if you're not sure whether you'd finish the new one or not. [Incomplete] and abandoned fics on the site are always sad to see.
Please ignore the attention whore, too.

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>>41068201
Abandoned. Heck you know what, how about I just show you it.
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/531025/equestria-at-war-the-austral-protectorate
>>41068209
I'll probably do that one since I also hate seeing incomplete stuff, even if this shit is like 1 year old now.

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>>41068213
>10,000 words

My guy, I take back what I said. Finish this shit! It's going to feel amazing finishing something you put so much effort into. I agree with my friend >>41068209 here.

I can give your fic a general read if you'd like the feedback/if that would motivate you!

>>41068221
Don't be that excited over the word count, I just write stuff in a very roundabout way to pad it cause I am an idiot who thinks that having more words is better all the time.

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>>41068240
Don't worry, I'm not "excited" because of that personally - I actually, on average, much prefer shorter stories - I just think it'll feel good on a personal level to finish a commitment that you put all those words into.

Do watch out for lavendar unicorn syndrom or whatever the fuck its called!

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>>41068058
God, that's an adorable picture. Weebshy a cute.

>>41068102
For me it's a tossup between you and cozyfag, and you're leading.

Everyone go to the secret thread. This is getting fucking ridiculous.

>>41068265
Alright. Give me the link to the secret thread and I will go.

>>41068260
AAAHHHHEEYH WHAT? YAAAINKEY?

>>41068265
I thought the writefag's guild was dead.

>>41067187
Do you actually want to make art?

>>41068037
>>41068075
>>41068176
>>41068189
>>41068190
>>41068201
>>41068221
>>41068252
>>41068260
Alright, listen up, fag, and listen up well. You're on the wrong fucking thread. Wrong fucking board. Go to discord for attention. Nobody here cares about you and your personality. I know you think it's unfair that Anonfilly gets to be "known" here but you don't, but you have negative a billion times cred than him. You're a decent enough writer, congrats - you've surprised us all by appearing as a troll and then turning out to know how to write basic fiction. But you're attention whoring here and its really fucking annoying every time you do. Have you noticed every time you show your face around here the thread fucking tanks? Plenty of us in this thread are notable. Trust me, I have far more stories than you, some with a hundred plus ratings. I'm who you might describe as "prolific" on the site. But I don't fucking flag and shit here because this isn't the place for that. This is a 4chan thread, a place built on anonymity. Figuring out who someone is and relating them to a conversation is supposed to be part of the magic of posting in a tight-nit community that's also anonymous. You both take the fun out of that AND appear like a massive attention-whoring faggot when you constantly avatar AND flagpost constantly. Fuck off already and figure out that you aren't wanted here.

>>41068281
And I'm sure this is you too. Your goal isn't even to contribute as an individual, its just to be fucking annoying. I'm sure you're giggling like a faggot, wasting company hours at your work desk hitting refresh and bursting out laughing when you see a single (You).

>>41068337
Please, you’re going to make me cum.

>>41068337
Dude I can’t believe Big Imagination E unloaded on deathtoponies like that. The drama is INTENSE! Is this the best thread this month? I think so.

>>41068369
I know! Someone should write a metafic about this DRAMA!

>>41068392
Nigga, who said I’m on your team? I’m here for bloodshed.

>>41068337
Reading this and imagining Fluttersnuff seething at his computer, wondering if he should come up with some snide remark or "prove he can change" by not replying, gives me the same feeling I get when I'm about to cum and I can feel it shooting up my dick from my balls.

>>41066980
I loved it, BP is probably my favorite mlp fanfic ever. I was able to relate to a lot of ideas and thoughs expressed in it and i deeply sympathised with Lyra throughout her journey. A lot of people have very strong opinions regarding certain things happening down the line (opinions i vehemently disagree with), but i ain't gonna spoil anything. Enjoy the ride and don't rush it, come here again once you've finished it.

>>41068337
Screencap this

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>>41066980
If you have to read fan fiction about an established character before you like them, they're a shit character.

>>41066980
As the other anon hinted, get off the board and read it in isolation. People here are just going to sour it for you, intentionally or not. It's a really good story.

>>41068631
>opinions i vehemently disagree with
In what way?

>>41068697
NTA but that's clearly that one anon itt who likes a certain extremely questionable writing decision late in the story.
Slight spoilers: How the ending is handled.

>>41068675
Or it means you have shit taste. In this case it's definitely the latter.

>>41068675
I like to think posts like these aren't serious because it makes them that much funnier

>>41068011
No, I was the one who shilled it. Is it so hard for you to believe that two anons might like the same story, particularly one that's topical?

Background pony is cringe. 400k words of cringe. Even worse, it’s a slog. Couldn’t give me fast cringe, I have to work for it. God forbid Lyra smiles once throughout the doomer fic, but if she did, then she would be “grinning smilishly” or some shit. Probably an extra ten adjectives, to be honest.

>>41068819
I wonder if you could make an AI make a plain version of Background Pony. Maybe I'd read it then.

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>>41068819
>grinning smilishly
Oh that's good, I'm gonna use that

>>41068877
No, Anon. It's not good.
Only an evil person would grin smilishly.

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>>41068887
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How's that story going, Anon?

>>41068924
I'm almost fucking done, I just need to clean up some bits in the last chapter and ask my proofreader to look at it. I blame him for it taking me so long by inspiring me to do a fucking side chapter and not myself for not focusing on writing it.

>>41068924
I just posted it and am awaiting my RCL nomination

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>>41068924
I dropped writing altogether. Feels good, man
>>41068929
>imagine having a proofreader

>>41068957
why is she on a spongebob title card

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>>41068924
Going well. I left my stories unattended due to medical issues, but I want to wrap this up soon and publish it.

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>>41068966
>He doesn't know

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>>41068924
Trying to figure out a fundamental premise to build a setting and narrative(s) out of but I can't think of anything that personally satisfied or interests me due to having no experience and over a decade of self-deprecating mental illness hindering my ability to judge quality and my own work.

>>41066980
>what you guys thought about this fic
I dropped it during publication after about eight or so chapters because of the purple prose. I kept speed reading because the narrator wouldn't shut up about pointless things and figured eventually I'd skim over something important, so just decided to cut my losses.

>>41067383
>Should I post cut content after a fic is done with?
Yes. Readers eat up deleted scenes/concepts like candy, especially if you do a sort of "behind the scenes" thing where you explain the reasons for cutting it. It's a great use of a blog and can even help pad your follower count, if you even care about that.

>>41067684
Two hours. Saw the cover art at midnight and was inspired, posted it at two in the morning.

>>41067986
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/459400/mind-over-matter
From what I remember from the last discussion, the fic never actually touches on what happens to the colt other than a handwaving "he's fine", but the implication that he woke up one day as a homeless drug addict who'd be summarily ignored when he started ranting about being a horse is horrifying.

>>41068924
Still chugging along. I'm trying to get the denouement chapter sorted out. Not only will it need a rewrite to tidy up the continuity, but it's also bloating out. It's already three times longer than the other chapters and still had about 30% to go.

>>41068334
Yeah I think thought-provoking and more meaningful stuff is really cool. I could at any moment write whatever and have fun doing it, but I want to put more effort into something and provide a nice and possible life-changing experience to a reader and give them something to remember.

>>41066980
I felt quite let-down by it. I had been roped in by the intriguing premise and high commendations, and was faced with literal 10-20k word chunks inbetween the actual story where lyra, the author's oc, sat down and talked to the Mane Six in mandatory 'oh shit this is a pony fic i have to involve the Mane Six in some way' fashion. It became exhausting, even if some of these scenes were nice. Additionally, I think the in-between scenes were kind of unnecessary. We are given a full grasp of lyra's situation immediately but the fic uses hundreds of thousands of more words to replay different flavors of the same scenario hammering in how bad she has it and how she helps ponies in spite of her situation while the main plot rots in the background.

How do I articulate in my story description that my edgy AU is based off of Season 1 in a vaccum? That is to say, I wrote it under the ruleset/ pretending I was a fan back in 2010 and one season was all we had to work off of? That means no changelings, Pillars, Dash didn't have defined parents, etc. Usually the implication with the AU timeline caveat is that something like Discord for example still exists somewhere in the setting, things just went different and you might see him elsewhere or in some other form. In this case I want to get across that these things will NOT make an appearance and do not exist, so people go in knowing to not expect this stuff and to not be disappointed by their exclusion. I am not omitting these things because I hate them specifically, so I do not want my description to imply this was done out of favoritism, or imply some degree of malice toward these ideas which would put readers off. How do you suggest I clearly and concisely get this idea across while sounding reasonable?

>>41069049
Two things:
First, always write with a message, theme, ethic, or philosophy at the core of your story. Something that can be very helpful is to take a theme and structure it as a question to be answered. If you want to write something which is thought-provoking it needs to make the reader want to think about it and ask questions. It should make the reader stop and consider their own beliefs and assumptions.
Second, don't let anything unnecessary get through. Go through your story and cut out everything that isn't necessary to it. A ten thousand word story in which every sentence is infused with meaning and significance is better than a million word story where ninety percent of it is just useless fluff.

>>41069113
nevermind i figured it out
nobody dare respond to me

>>41068957
We know, anon. You can stop posting about it now, it's getting annoying.

>>41068924
It's still going well, but I've been getting about a downvote a day for much of this week all of a sudden. Nothing in the comments to indicate why the sudden disapproval, so that's rather deflating, even though I try not to focus on that ir take it to heart, and even though it still has overwhelming approval.
I still have a lot of people enamored with the story and leaving comments, so I must be doing something right overall – more imporyantly, I've been enjoying writing it. Another update either this morning or Sat morning, haven't decided.

>>41068924
So yeah, it's going well but you should still kill yourself for using a barbieshit pic for a general question.

>>41068924
chose a not-so-great time to publish a new chapter and it didn't get much initial engagement as a result, but i'm not sweating it too much. having fun writing it so that's all that matters

>>41068924
I'm in the <<binge random shows for '''inspiration'''>> stage.

>>41068924
b-but what if nobody else likes it?

>>41069975
>nobody else
There you go. You've improved the world for one person. That's one more than the story not existing.

>>41070034
but if I write and no one cares, I feel worse than if I'd spent the same time masturbating.

>>41070086
I've always preferred even worthless, garbage stories to just masturbating, because at least I have something tangible to show for the time spent.

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>>41070099
That's why you get a jar.

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>>41070086
Do you not value the act of creating a story? I can't easily phrase it without sounding insanely pretentious, but I think it's really incredible that, by writing, you can create something that simply wasn't there. It literally didn't exist, and now it does, even if you were to disappear overnight. I admit that I get distracted very easily and often struggle to just sit down and write, but the great feeling of having created a story is something you can't get anywhere outside of creative outlets.

>>41070114
I suppose some are more comfortable with vanishing into the void.

>>41070099
>I have something tangible to show for the time spent
Weird. Most dudes stop shooting blanks after puberty

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Anon, explain yourself and your readers.

>>41070302
Must be tunafag's doing

>>41070302
can you really say you love a mare if you wouldn't break her face?

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>>41070302
Well, I guess there is plenty of Ponk abuse in my fic after all, only she's the one doing the abusing.

>>41070333
why do the mares suffer so? why do you make them, fillybro?

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>>41070339
I think it's a cultural thing. Much of our literature features heroes who are absolutely put through the ringer, only to come back stronger. It's not unique to us, but due to how pronounced it is, I've experienced it a lot as I've read over the years.
Consider for instance the children's epic poem, 'John the Valiant', in which the eponymous guy experiences the following in the span of a few years:
>starting as a lowly shepherd, he loses the herd entrusted to him
>gets publicly humiliated and beaten for it
>his one true love is constantly abused by her horrid stepmother
>he has to leave town and can no longer protect his love
>he is almost killed by robbers, but kills them first
>he joins the army, survives several bloody wars
>by the time he returns with great wealth, his love is already dead due to the abuse
>as he wanders the world aimlessly, he is almost murdered by a number of fantastical creatures, but defeats them first
>he crosses the uncrossable sea and defeats a dragon by letting himself be vored and squeezing the dragon's heart so hard it explodes
>he survives all this shit and finds the fountain of eternal youth, only to realize his love is still dead and due to his heartbreak, almost drowns himself
>only to FINALLY find a way to resurrect the girl and the two end up in eternal love, ruling over a kingdom
It's an extreme example, but a striking one too, imo. I love this sort of stuff, it raises one's spirits. You see just how low a character can get and still always come back, until it's not them, but the world that finally relents.
So, in short, it's not the suffering of the characters I enjoy, it's seeing them overcome the challenges. It's why in most of my stories the protagonist comes out better than before, despite going through something harrowing.

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>>41070374
A ringer is a horseshoe that has been thrown in such a way as to completely encircle the stake in the game of horseshoes.
A wringer is the device that flattening-anon masturbates to.

>>41070391
It's funnier to let ESLs make their foolish mistakes and see how long it takes them to realize.

>>41070374
WTF, I hate Hungarian culture now.

So I am trying to find this one fic that I read a million years ago. The premise is human x pony I think it was Lyra and bon bon, but it might have been roseluck. The pony is afraid of the humans hands because they remind her of spiders and she is terrified of spiders. I can't for the life of me remember what it was called. Anyone else read that one and/or can help me find it?

>>41068924
Someday I will quit screwing around with LLMs and actually use one to write a fic

>Incest foalcon shitvat top of featured
Fuck this website.

>>41070998
Sounds like https://www.fimfiction.net/story/248113/bon-bons-acceptance.

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>>41070476
>now

>>41069113
If you're doing S1 only, the simplest way to establish the AU bona fides would be to do a different backstory for Equestria's founding, as HWE wouldn't exist yet. That would also set the "point of divergence" for the AU to build off of.

Remember, though, when using the AU tag that readers expect a certain genre of story, where the divergence point creates a ripple the reader is eager to explore. What happened to the characters? How's this new setting impact the plot of the show? Etc. Just declaring yourself a Faustfag and it's a fixfic isn't going to be a big enough AU leap for that.

>>41070302
>all the moralfags raging at abuse while foal necrophilia rape fics go untouched
How bizarre. I wonder what secret Discord server it was linked in? Given it's not on fimfetch, I have a pretty good idea.

>>41071263
That ones not actually foalcon, despite the cover art's implication. It's Sweetie Belle learning she has a sadism fetish, as the author snorts SoL copium over his snuffics. But don't fret, because there's the TwiCozy foalcon fic that just entered the featured box.

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>>41071263
It's not incest. It's the latest manipulative, holier-than-thou fic from our own resident attention whore. Even worse, it's working.

>>41071500
>How bizarre.
I'm pretty sure it's not that strange. These abuse/shock fics with a teen rating usually plummet to similar scores, and to make it worse, this one has a descriptive, very unpleasant cover. Unlike foal necrophilia, this one's visible with the M filter on. Which, judging by how much M cuts views on fics, is how many people browse the site. Especially the kind of people who don't want to see content that they find offensive.

>>41071424
Don't worry, Orban will build more soccer stadiums to counter this

>>41070374
That just sounds like a regular story, though grimmer than average. Maybe the problem is that Hungarians are more in touch with their older culture than Yankees or other euros and so don’t see anything odd about it. Or because it’s a reflection of the suffering caused in hungry by communism.
>>41071512
Pedophiles are the lowest, most vile pathetic form of scum on the planet.

>>41071844
Equating real world pedos with foalfags/lolicons is achieving the opposite of what you want. By grouping dangerous pedophiles with the people who get off to harmless fantasy you're diminishing the severity of the real crime.

>>41071844
it's not pedo though is what makes this situation worse

>>41071512
can someone give me a tldr so I don't have to pad this nigger's stats?

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>>41071856
Whoops! You skipped some important steps.
First, real world pedophiles and lolicons have to stop actually being the same thing. That is a a critical and obvious prerequisite for most people to stop equating them.
Then, and this is only a little more subtle, the "less-worse" group needs to stop enabling and supporting the "more-worse" group. When one lets the other do their thing, they get equated too.
In general, it can be simplified to: don't tolerate pedos.

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>>41072117
Following this exceedingly retarded logic we should jail the entire fandom, and especially /mlp/, for "enabling and supporting" zoophilia. Even though attraction to ponies is primarily xenophilia, not zoo, the literal horsefuckers are cherished and encouraged here. I'd also bet there's more of them on /mlp/ than there's pedos in any loli/foal group. Zoo is illegal in most parts of the civilized world, and normal people find zoophilia repulsive, too.
In general, it should be simplified to: don't persecute people who do no harm.

>>41072105
Sweetie Belle has been sad. She doesn't want to say why, but she's worried she's a bad pony. Rarity coaxes her into admitting she's been having disturbing dreams where she hurts ponies and feels "tingly." Rarity says it's just fantasy, fantasy is okay, and Sweetie Belle is still a good pony. The end.

The story strongly implies but (presumably because of T rating) does not outright confirm that Sweetie Belle is a sexual sadist. The writing is okay, but the story is an isolated scene that's pointless on its own. It could be a part of a chapter of a longer, more interesting fic, but this is not that.

>>41072185
Why doesn't she send Sweetie to a psyhcologist? Is she rarted?

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>>41070476
Based on our literature that means we'll just come back stronger.

>>41071844
This is what being feared for 200 years then being cucked for 800 does to a mf.

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>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/459400/mind-over-matter
"Mind over matter" is a 65 thousand word story that is supposed to be about a human drug addict (Leo) being transported to Equestria into the body of a colt who's just escaped his abusive parents. "supposed to be" because that's not what this story is. I'll elaborate later.

I did not like this story. The writing is a bit stilted at times and often the author just tells what's going on (i.e. Leo felt bad, leo thought this, leo walked there), it tells too much and shows too little. But honestly, the prose is not that bad, and that's not the main problem of the fic.
Another problem is that every ten or so chapters the author recaps what happened in previous chapters in the way of "doctor notes". You see, after being transported to Equestria Leo stumbles around a forest a bit, bites himself to see if it's not a dream, breaks his hoof and finally finds a town where he is put in a hospital. From time to time you'd see a thousand words long chapter with "doctor's notes" that would simply describe what happened with Leo in the previous chapters, like "Leo ate this, then x pony visited Leo, Leo fell asleep, etc". It is pretty annoying and unnecessary, and can be shortened to a couple of sentences.
Also, the fic is very repetitive. I understand that MC has been through a lot of traumatic experiences, but i you quickly get tired of reading the same internal dialog "I fucked up my life because i'm a stupid junkie, i can't change. No, i can change. No, i can NOT change!" and so on for the tenth time. Honestly, reading a lot of the chapters, especially the later ones, felt like a chore.

But none of these things are the main problem of the fic. This story is not what it purports to be - it is NOT a story about a recovering human addict in the body of a colt. It is a story about a previously abused and slowly recovering colt from Equestria. The human part doesn't have ANY bearing on the story. Sure, the main character has these long and tiring discussions with himself in his head about his drug addiction, about whether he and this foal are one and the same or two separate entities, about what he wants to do in Equestria and so on, but this doesn't matter, because if you remove all the internal monologue it changes literally nothing and what you're left with is that colt's story. The main character doesn't act like a human, he never tells anyone that he used to be a human and his actions do not in any way differ from what an ordinary foal in this situation would do. And this is what disappointed me the most about this story, because if you look past the repetitiveness, all the issues with writing and past the boring plot, you aren't even left with a "human in a pony's body " story this fanfic purports to be. Why not just write a story about a colt instead if the human part doesn't matter?

I do not recommend reading this fanfic.

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>>41072136
I don't find this argument convincing as a consequence of personal experience, but also because it's wrong.
I haven't seen any loli art that didn't gross me out. Fortunately, I've managed to avoid CP, but when there are girls posted on /s/ that look too young, they are disturbing. For me, that's already more than enough to distinguish one kind of porn as being much worse than the other. Of course, this is widely reflected: even when zoophilia and CP are both illegal, one is clearly a lot more illegal than the other.
Beyond that, zoo porn is also extremely gross and continues to be easy to distinguish from xenophilia, or most furry porn. I recognize that zoo is glorified here by some, but I, at least, report it.

Refocusing on the point, pedophiles rely on foalcon and loli groups for camouflage, and those groups consistently rely on pedophiles for their content. They are dependent on each other, making it obvious how they both do harm. It's fine to equate and persecute them while they cause harm. It's also completely fine to take a proportionally more absolute position on pedos, and to call it out when they try to cloak themselves with other groups, using a false equivalence lever to pull another down with them.

>>41072185
>The writing is okay
Do you have a pastebin? I do not believe for a fucking second this nigger can write but I will never in a million years give him a fucking click. What a fucking pointless sounding story.

>>41072280
If you want a good HIE story read Hold it together. though there’s a 50/50 chance the author might never finish it.

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>>41072437
Hold it Together is only a mediocre story. Better HIEs exist, like Bad Mondays, Lord Barleycorn, and Message in a Bottle.
Though finding a HiE that even reaches mediocre status is like finding a fleck of gold among a mountain of shit.

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>>41072388
To me it sounds a lot like you're building an entire argument to support some notion you've already assumed earlier. To be clear, I'm neither a zoo nor a lolicon and even stuff like your favorite clopician triggers my subconscious "ew, too zoo" reaction; I've no horse in this race beyond the intrinsic belief that generally it's never good to limit any freedoms unless it's absolutely necessary. I've never seen actual CP either, and a lot of loli stuff is also uncomfortable for me, but it's been several years since I looked for porn with real people in it so I can't compare it to that.
The xeno argument is true, yes, but good luck convincing anyone not in the fandom of it. You'd sound exactly like the "Ackchyually it's hebephilia" people.

And again, I think that grouping the real world pedos with foalcon/lolicon based on what you said is just incorrect. This is thankfully less of an issue in the fim fandom and (presumably?) most western communities, but you can't throw a stone in the room with weebshit content without hitting at least two works that include a token loli character. It'd be completely ridiculous to assume that all of those works, and everyone liking any of them, is sympathizing with real world pedos and depending on them in any capacity. I don't doubt that at least some pedophiles use loli content as the "next best" thing (unless they're already so deep that they have actual CP), but I doubt that any of it is targeted towards them in any capacity.
Basically, I'm pretty sure that the relationship between the groups is entirely one sided (if it's there), and therefore persecuting one for the actions of the other would be wrong.

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Ah, yes, mutilation.
>/FSSBC/
>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/505051/where-only-silver-shines (3/3)
Week three, and the fic is finally over. I'd say overall I liked it more than I didn't, and I did end up leaving a like on it. I left that after Nightshade died, and nothing since made me reconsider, so that's probably a good sign and whatnot. Shade's death is probably the highlight of the fic for me, especially the part with Luna. Though, related to that, one gripe I do have with this final portion is the Viscount going mad. Not the concept, but the way it's executed I guess. It feel a little sudden, and without much foreshadowing of both the fact that he could go insane like that and of how much of an issue it would be. I guess we knew he was powerful, but I didn't get the impression that he would ravage through the tower like this. Arawn's death also feels sudden but there it's intentional.
I was a little sad we didn't get to see more of Vitro this week. Also, I think Aurora may have upgraded to my favourite character, though I couldn't say why that is. I just like her. Arawn is still nice too and it was sad to see her go. The whole pre-finale portion with them constantly changing plans manages to flow well and to not feel annoying, at least to me. The final resolution with the Morrigan preserving Arawn's memories works out, and I guess Erebus got cucked after all. We also get answers for what's happened with Luna, and maybe a bit about what happened to Equestria. Not much, but I don't feel it's an issue. The effective climax is the fight against the Viscount, Arawn's ritual, and Silver losing his wing, and the long final chapter is more of a wind-down extended epilogue before the proper final resolution, I feel. It is a neat resolution, as I think I've already said. I'm a little disorganised this week since I'm typing this at the end of a tiring day and I didn't take notes, hopefully it all makes sense.
One thing I wasn't clear on was how the Viscount's copies work. He's there himself at the final confrontation, but then it's just copies. Did he disappear somehow? Was he sealed eventually? I guess we partly got answers about the forsaken too. Not about the broader nature of the Tower, but I don't feel those were necessarily needed. I don't mind weird for the sake of weird, and what we got was enough for me. Looking back to this week's earlier chapters which I kind of forgot about, the dream sequences are always neat and I liked Arawn's dream. I liked Luna trying to convince both of them to leave the Tower, and again I did like their back and forth on what to do and how things played out in the end, even if it seems like a sad ending for a while. And it still is, kind of, Arawn is still dead even if she lives on in body and memories. Hopefully the club can bring up things I forgot.
Next week we're reading:
>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/413726/glitched-stitches
You should decide what we'll read after, too:
>https://ponepaste.org/8813

Does anyone have suggestions for M- or X-rated fics that read like episodes of the show? That is, everyone is in character and the story structure/length would work for a self-contained, 22-minute story?

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>>41072469
No, my argument is based on my own experience. The horse that you have in this race is, to a lesser extent, the fandom and to a greater extent this thread. And no, the relationship isn't one-sided, I've already clearly explained why it's not.

The cycle that I've seen is that pedos infest a group, they don't get attacked (either because of your position that they're harmless or because of the general contrarian or edgy culture on 4chan), even if generally, everyone still hates them. The thread becomes too disgusting, and they become the only ones left. Two specific examples of that happening are MLPG and the clop thread on /trash/, circa 2018.

Your example of taking down the fandom as a result is a possibility when the fandom is too weak. A specific example is the Gravity Falls general, which got itself banned on /co/; but it's hardly the only victim.

And yeah, loli is a cancer that killed weebshit long ago. The only anime I watch is Bleach, which predates the metastasis, and I still can't participate on /a/.

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>>41072514
I can't believe Luna is fucking dead.
But before I get any further, I need to ask: did the pony song references in titles start this week, or were they always a thing and I was just being dumb? Because I got five: Midnight Frenzy, "Moving tides as she wept" (from Millenium Alone, weekly dont-shill-your-weaker-fics-challenge), "My own cloud above" (from Love), Life Outside, "the punishment, Yours" (Lullaby for a Princess, duh). Possibly more; it's not like I recognize every fandom song. A pretty nice selection, though.
Oh, and I called Arawn being a vampire last week. It was a hopeful half-guess at the time, made mostly because I really, really *like* vampires. Absolutely top-tier creatures/aesthetic, and double-great when they're also cute. Arawn's stocks were already soaring, and then they somehow got even higher.She's so good.

I'll go ahead and make the claim that this is the most underrated fic I've read in years. Yes, a part of it is that I almost exclusively read recommendations and fics with a 95%+ rating, but this being at 27-4 is criminal. Not that it's a "best of fimfic"-tier masterpiece, but it's a really damn solid fic—decently well-written, too—with the rating of an inconsequential mediocre fluff. It should be at least 150–4, imo; only ~60 views on the last chapter is a misunderstanding. But as always, I rambled for 40% of the post, so let's get to the fic.

I like a lot of the abruptness in the last third and the ending. This is not the kind of story I can easily see myself writing, but lately I've begun to appreciate this kind of light subversion of expectation a lot more, at least when it's done well. Bloodmoon, Vitro, rebellion/Family conflict, the surgery, most of everything about Hades (the deal, secret entrance)—all either red herrings or ideas left without a proper resolution. We do, however, get explanations about stuff that matters. In fact, I'd say that the greatest accomplishment of this fic's finale is that not a single thing stood out to me as bad. There are some questionable decisions (and I bet the other anon, who's not so easily charmed by nice fics, will have pointed them out by now), but as I was reading the fic, it successfully managed to divert my attention exactly where it wanted to and sell the plot points that it wanted to show. Basically, I was really strongly immersed in the story this week, despite my general dislike of 1st person stuff.
Everything after Viscount's unholy rampage happens so quickly that you're barely given any time to think it through. The fic conveys a lot of different emotions in that very short period of time very nicely. Then the finale happens, and the pacing freezes as Silver becomes apathetic due to the consequences of his decisions. That was intentional, and it's done well. I prefer happy endings in fics, and here the bittersweet one we got felt deserved, especially after how definitely it presented the bad end as inevitable.
(1/2, not the end of the paragraph)

>>41072515
Anon, if it's M or X-rated it's not going to read like an episode of the show.

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>>41072514
>>41072574 (2/2)
That it got me to smile means it did something right—a nice sendoff to the story. Yeah, I so very badly wanted them to leave the Tower to burn and escape by themselves (100% the right choice, by the way), and then later I wanted to see it destroyed regardless of the consequences, but that status quo ending feels very on-theme. I said it last week, but all the action scenes are really good, too.

Once again, I filled out a whole post before even opening my notes. To quote Silver: "Fuck". To be clear, this time I actually read early and waited a day before writing this post, but thinking about the fic made me spiral into the "finished a very good story" mindset again. So excuse the following lack of grouping and formatting the points into paragraphs:

I really liked Aurora's depiction and her mini character arc this week. Both as something showing what can (will) happen to Silver if he stays and to show that it doesn't have to be the end for them. In a fic taking place in such a dark AU, these little moments of positivity are very important and precious. Otherwise, all the doom and despair starts to feel same'y, at least to me. Glad to have been right about no drama between Aurora and Arawn regarding their relationship with Silver, too.
Their tea is still spiked with energy drinks, but that's fine.
The mentions of a cataclysm that happened outside were neat, as was confirming the 2 (two) Princesses. Correct headcanon acknowledged.
A couple typos and a few sentences sounding slightly off slipped through, but the level of polish is fine. Actually, let me add something to that. The fact that only a small handful of sentences triggered my "this reads like an ESL sentence" response is a huge point in the fic's favor, because it means that literally everything else sounded natural enough to not draw any attention to that fact. I've only realized this once I finished the fic and compared it to some of the other fics we've read or are reading. I also learned that "louring" is a word, which is neat.

>S13 -- The Punishment, Yours
>S12 -- The Punishment, Yours
Huzzah! (seems like the doubled titles have been fixed in the current version.)

Overall, I'm glad I read this fic. A lot about it is good, mainly the cool and mysterious worldbuilding, Arawn and character interactions, all the nice action scenes, the ending, and the pacing of the story in general. It's decently long, finished, and nothing about it stands out as bad. Perhaps its biggest "flaw" is the OC cast in an AU world, which makes people less interested in it. If I was still giving fics grades, this would be a 7.5. Half-grades are a cop-out, but I feel like it's short of "truly excellent" while also being better than "quite good". Ultimately, if I had to pick one, I'd say it's more of an 8 than a 7 for me.

>>41072515
The closest thing I can think of is the PPP's redubs.

>>41072539
I was gonna point out how I'm into loli yet find pedophilia disgusting, but
>Bleach
I hope that's a joke.

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>>41072514
>I left that after Nightshade died, and nothing since made me reconsider, so that's probably a good sign and whatnot.
I already liked the previous two weeks enough for an updoot, and this week was even better.
>Viscount going mad
It's really sudden, but for me the pacing and the bold twists in the last third are one of the best things about the fic. It's so good at giving you an idea of what is going to happen next, and then having the plans come apart as a result of something else they hadn't considered. Like devoting a significant part of this third to the admittedly sweet romance before having Arawn (mostly) die directly as a result of her actions.
>Aurora may have upgraded to my favourite character
For me, it's still Arawn, by a mile, but Aurora was very good. I'd probably put her second and I swear I'm saying that because of her character arc and not because she's a vampire knight.
>One thing I wasn't clear on was how the Viscount's copies work.
The way I understood it, the copies are all him. I can't say I grasp the specifics (it's not as simple as him splitting since some copies join the fight later), but to me it reads like each of the copies is a part of him and he'd be (temporarily unless sealed?) defeated once they're all down. Then I'd think he does whatever is The Tower's equivalent of vampires going into Mist Form on 0 hp and respawns later, no worse for the wear physically but just a little bit more unstable.
>the dream sequences are always neat
Oh, right. These were all nice, too. Luna finally got some more time to show off; she was good this week, too.

>>41072590
I obviously mean if the show had a higher age rating.

>>41072616
The what?

Does anyone else remember that AU fic where Twilight takes over Princess Celestia's School for Gifted Unicorns after S3, or did I just dream that?

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>>41072574
>pony song references
No idea, we should hear from the author on that.
>Arawn being a vampire
Right, that was a thing.
>I really, really *like* vampires
Okay.
>the most underrated fic
Probably, yeah.
>appreciate this kind of light subversion of expectation
I do too, and it was neat here.
>who's not so easily charmed by nice fics
I'm only charmed by evil fics.
>>41072595
>but all the action scenes are really good, too
They were okay.
> To quote Silver: "Fuck"
Surely you mean "Bloody Hades".
>thinking about the fic made me spiral
It didn't for me, but it was still rather nice overall.
>7.5
Maybe my grade too. Or maybe I lean more towards a 7. But I'm still glad I read it.
>>41072672
>giving you an idea of what is going to happen next, and then having the plans come apart as a result of something else they hadn't considered
That is good, yes.

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>>41072901
>pic
Ruined by the balloon ass. Unsalvageable.
>I am very tired
Understandable, happens to all of us.
Also, having cooled down from writing almost 6000 chars of bookclub, I'd like to slightly retcon the number of "very" in my posts. This is something that applies to most or all of my bookclub posts on weeks where I ended up liking the fic. Imagine that the sentences are like 25% less emphasized.
>Okay
>They were okay.
Especially regarding those two. I do still enjoy cute vampires and the action scenes in this fic, however.
>Surely you mean "Bloody Hades".
Could be that, too, but also he drops plenty of fucks in this third.

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>>41072901
I wish Morrigan wasn't the only popular darkstalker

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Perhaps there is some dignity in accepting the fact that my adventure story will never be deep or thoughtful, and clashes with my desire to reach my goal of making a super meaningful story, and I should just instead make a great setting with cool concepts.

It's over.

>>41073026
You could always try to make it fun.

>>41072514
>pic and filename
kek
>Shade's death is probably the highlight of the fic for me, especially the part with Luna.
Same here. That scene is probably one of the best things I've written.
>Viscount going mad. Not the concept, but the way it's executed I guess. It feel a little sudden, and without much foreshadowing of both the fact that he could go insane like that and of how much of an issue it would be.
Once again, I agree. I realised that after I'd already written most of the fic, and at that point I tried to fix it, but it was too little and too late.
>Aurora
Same. Don't know how or why, but what started out as a generic side character ended up my darling from this fic.
>changing plans
Glad to know; a lot of thought went into it.
>>41072574
>song references
There are 12 in total. Originally, I was gonna go exclusively for chapter titles referencing something about the night, but ran out of ideas halfway through the fic. The earliest instance is "Glimmer of Hope", though that is generic enough that I don't really count it. Second one after that was "We, Here Tonight"
>I really, really *like* vampires
Based. Then again, what woke up my love for vampires was the campaign this was based off, and specifically Arawn (who was an underdeveloped NPC that ended up biting my character)

>the most underrated fic I've read in years
>I was really strongly immersed in the story this week
'tis an honour. Thank you.
>ending
Again, really glad to read that, because a lot of thought went into it.
>>41072595
>Otherwise, all the doom and despair starts to feel same'y, at least to me.
Same here. I have a hard time caring about characters that only get bad times.

Very glad you liked it so much. Creating something that elicits a spiral into that mindset is basically THE reason I write.

>>41073026
I'm sure you'll write your own deep and philosophical opus one day, anon. You just gotta work towards it and nothing will be outside your reach.

>>41073045
>>41073060
Actually true. I'm really smart and cool and have good ideas and have cracked the code to making good progress and content so I am sure with enough time I can figure anything out, I just need to practice and write first.

We're back/ never left.

>>41073058
>spoiler
While I'm on a tangent, I wanna add that Silver was NOT my character. That would have led to a very different fic. As a matter of fact, Arawn ended up very different from her original incarnation as an NPC.

>>41072991
>pic
Nice corruption pic.
>Unsalvageable
It may be on model. Also, it was hard finding a good picture of her in a rush.
>Imagine that the sentences are like 25% less emphasized.
Will do.
>>41072996
The cat one is popular too. And loli Morrigan to some degree.
>>41073058
>That scene is probably one of the best things I've written.
It may well be.
>but it was too little and too late.
It's the thought that counts.
>Same
Based.
>I have a hard time caring about characters that only get bad times.
Like Spoony?

>>41072908
I think you replied to the wrong comment.

>>41073324
Check desu

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>>41073382
How do you even find out that people are replying on desu? You don't just check every thread right?

>>41073398
I used to go on desu when my school's firewall would block 4chan so I could still lurk during class.

>>41073573
Same, but Uni. This was back in '14, when we regularly would go through a thread every couple of days.

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It doesn't take much to make it to the box these days.
What's stopping YOU from making it?

>>41073058
>12 in total.
Looking before Midnight Frenzy, I can also find "Between Shades of Black and White", Shattered, and "Quiet and at Rest". And to continue Luna marathon, "Full Moon" could be from Night Queen. So that's 9 total plus the two you listed. I'm afraid I won't get the last one. Still, nice to see pony music references, especially so many Luna songs. On a second thought, I just gave up and googled the titles to find it. Referencing your own commission is pretty funny.
>vampires
I don't even know what was it for me, it's been a while. Their raw, almost primal power carefully hidden beneath an understated mask of elegance? The types of personalities that they're usually often depicted with? The gothic look that somehow meshes so well with cute? They're edgy as fuck, sure, but usually of the more classy kind. Batponies are a natural fit, obviously. Just please don't make them striped black-and-red like that newest PW song; that's way too far.
>because a lot of thought went into it
Well, it paid off here. That whole sequence before the finale is clean, and it'd be really easy to fuck it up.

>>41073863
My good taste.