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Homestead General /hsg/
> Biochar Edition
> Thread #07

Talk gardening, farming, livestock, beekeeping, building, electricity and plumbing, earthworks, waterworks, permaculture, raising children, market gardening, selling produce, barter, home economics, composting, mulching, pest control, diet, health.
Anything relevant to living on site, making a home out of the land.

Old Thread: >>2676468
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I sometimes spend hours reading about rare plants or ordering weird seeds online. I am interested in growing exotic/unusual/poisonous plants. My Desert Rose (Adenium Obesum) seeds had a germination rate of 100%, pretty cool. These desert plants have a poisonous sap that, if consumed, stop your heart. Some african tribes use them to poison their arrows.
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>watering my cannabisplants
>left my growbox half a day without ventillation
>come back home and see 99% humidity
>plants have lime on their leafs
>everything is back to normal
>see that arround the plant itself its still wet and arround the wet spot everything is dry
>check moisture on the bottom of pot
>its >80%
what to do? pot size is 5 Gallon / 20 Litre Cannabis in sprout stage a little over a week, soil is pre-fertilized. Did add a little guano fertilizer before the ventillation failure. Watered with 180ml
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>>2724900
and also, which humidity should be near the bottom of the pot?
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>>2724900
>>2724901
It's probably fine. You can trim the lower leaves and branches to lower the humidity at the base
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Planted 2 acres of corn last week
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wheres that tree
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>>2725422
Along with a side plot beside the corn field that has rattlesnake pole beans, squash, okra, cucumber, a ton of cantaloupe (put half my seed direct sow and half are in starters, probably not warm enough yet for direct sow but im experimenting), zuchini, pumpkin, turnips and radishes, taters, and onions
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>>2725424
Plowed all of my furrows with this 1944 Farmall A tractor. Walk along rows and drop seed in then come back along with the under-body plow and covered the seeds up
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>>2724375
Have you ever looked into Poison Hemlock? The leaves are very very cool, smell interesting, and the flowers and pleasant. Grows all over the place around here and I let a lot of it grow up because I think it is pretty
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>>2725426
one of my favorite children's books a kid was about an old red tractor, kind of like that, i would say it was a Fergusson, but not sure, was probably the first book i read all by myself.
if anyone knows the book, post it hell yea
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Should i just remove one of each of these pairs? Bell peppers. They grew in the cell together and i neglected to thin them but they seem fine.
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>>2725432
>Fergusson
Ferguson (single 's') is a brand of tractors, named by their constructor.
In Poland in 70's (when we were still forcefully assigned to the 'red' side of the political world), for reasons unknown the socialistic government decided to buy a license for these and the state companies started manufacturing and selling Ferguson tractors.
This ended up in a total mayhem in farmer's garages as well as farm machine repair shops, for these f***ing tractors had imperial sized bolts, screws, axels etc. and if any part broke or got loose and got lost, it was virtually impossible to find a replacement.
The machines worked fine, but once a fault occurred (and 50+ years ago all the machines were not as reliable as they are now), it was a nightmare to repair.
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>>2725450
Peppers do better as a pair
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I'm wanting to build an earth ship out in Terlingua or Marfa Texas due to the complete lack of building codes. The problem is that very little grows out there and there are no aquifers so I would have to rely on rain water alone. I was thinking of buying 40 acres. Is it doable? I don't expect this to be easy or something that will be set up in a day.
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>>2725547
>Marfa Texas
average rainfall?>16 inchs?,,HORY FLOOD!!,
,,, 8 gallonsquare foot collector area?!,
,DROWNING!,thats plenty for an Earthship.
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>>2725547
If you collect rainwater from most of your property then it might be doable. Dig a bunch of trenches to guide the rainwater to a holding pond and pull your water from there. You should build something over it to prevent it from evaporating and check the annual rainfall for the area. Expect to collect less than half of the water.
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>>2724375
Neat
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>>2724900
checked. need pic to help more
canna dont humidity above 50% after germ.
how tall is the one you talk about? 20 l sounds a lot.
also that 20 l bucket is dif to water and 180ml is just shite. show more from your setup also state what light you use.
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>>2724900
Put a thick layer of straw over your soil to reflect light away from it and prevent moisture loss.
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>>2724900
>sprout stage
>5gallon container

Start in a solo cup and progress to larger containers as the roots develop. Where do you think the water in the bottom is going to go if the roots can't reach it?
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>>2724333
Speaking of bio char, spread most of my charcoal out, now in the process of covering it with compost, very dry lately though so it's an absolute dust bowl, though that makes the compost really easy to spread as it's so light and airy. Ran my sprinkler over the spread material for about 45 minutes last night, and it just sponged it up no puddles at all.
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anyone have resources on how to keep ELK off your fucking property
>shoot them

they have rfid chips in their ears and are protected by the government. any time one of them sneezes some government employee goes to the location to check on it. I just want them to stay the fuck away from my fruit trees.
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Blackpill me on beekeeping
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Does anyone here actually homestead or is this LARP central?
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>>2726571
I'd be on the more optimistic side of actual homesteaders and those that dream of homesteading.
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>>2726571
You've got several anons ITT posting pics of things they grow, one on two acres.
I'm sitting in the tropics planting trees for the last two years.
>>2726441
If you're in the americas, honey bees are an invasive species.
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dogs killed my last rooster. I’m in city limits so would have trouble if I stay up and shoot the fucker but I built a big ass trap for it. Also putting in for a suppressor for my 22LR.
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>>2727917
Avenge the cock, Anon. The blood of hounds must nourish your garden.
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>>2727917
Xylitol is a water soluble natural sweetener which is completely safe for human consumption (and quite sweet) however it's extremely poisonous for dogs, as little as 0.5g per kilogram of dog's body mass will usually cause acute liver failure, higher doses practically guarantee death.
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Does code require you to build houses of "engineered" wood instead of real wood?
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>>2727917
Get a rooster that can kill dogs. Maybe a Malay.
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>>2727976
The have collars but they've been coming on the property for a while now shitting in my garden. I almost caught them in the trap but I left the hotdogs out and they ate the whole pack instead and then took a gigantic shit on my potatoes.
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>>2728858
here's the photo.
You can see the one in the back is mid-shit on my potatoes.
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now I have to build a rail for the door. Did you know a shitty 1/4 inch aluminum channel from home depot is 15 dollars? 2 of them costs more than all the wood I had to buy, how does that make sense?
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>>2726373
>shoot them
>with a paintball gun
ftfy.
Eventually they will associate your land with pain. Just make sure the government never figures out where all the rainbow elk come from or you're screwed.
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>>2727917
>>2728858
Buy a motion activated sprinkler
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>>2729212
no water or electricity back there.
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>>2729336
The sprinkler is battery powered. If you can get a reservoir of water and a battery powered pump over there then you'll be good to go.
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>>2727917
like >>2727981 said, xylitol is your answer
i don't wanna kill things, but when shits a problem, it should be solved
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I bought a home with a creek last spring. In the summer the mosquitoes were awful. It was one of the hottest summers on record so I figured it was a fluke but this year already walking outside I am bombarded with mosquitoes.
The creek is about 150 feet from the house and it is fed by a reservoir at the school where they release the excess into it whenever it gets too full, so the creek usually is just a bunch of standing water. We had two really heavy rains that caused it to overflow a lot but now it’s all just standing pools in there and now we swat off a mosquito per minute when outside and they are sneaking into the house and getting us at night even.
Am I fucked or is there anything I can do?
It got so bad last year that to go out after dark I had to wear my bee suit. I had walked out without it at first and was swarmed like literally 50 biting me in a span of a minute and now they’ve detected mosquitoes here with zika or west nile or one of those. Dunks don’t do enough and I don’t even know how to fog that much i’d need a fog truck. it’s 6 acres with the creek right through the center and lots of trees and vegetation.
also they evolved and there are the biggest mosquitoes i’ve ever seen. we had the zebra ones but these ones can feed THROUGH clothing.
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>>2729791
Drink a bunch of vinegar and they'll stop biting you. Make switchel and drink it constantly and you'll never be bit again. You can also try keeping ducks or ibis and encouraging dragonflies to breed near you.
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>>2729791
There are several things you can do.
One is revegitate, certain shallow rooting plants will just drink all the surface water, they're known pond destroyers.

But this might have a significant impact on the volume of water in the creek.

Another option is to try and boost the number of animals that eat mosquito larvae. Some native fish might pond hop, there are frogs etc.
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Are electric tractors viable?
On the one hand, a conventional tractor is cheaper if bought old and used, but it also makes you dependent on big oil and if SHTF, you're pretty much fucked. Moreover, the pollution from the tractor might contaminate your food, air, and water.
On the other hand, electric tractors are more expensive and their reliability hasn't been confirmed yet, it seems.
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>>2730012
If you have enough money then electric everything is recommended.
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>>2724333
Nice thread
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>>2730262
Adorable. My broody girl has a clutch of eggs that are getting ready to hatch and I can't wait.
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>>2730012
I've thought about getting an old tractor and converting it to run on ethanol. Grow enough corn or sugar beets to make alcohol for fuel, and stock several years supply of lubricants.
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>>2730012
Machinery will make you dependant on one kind of big business or another anon.
Do whats cheapest for you, any kind of serious economic problem isnt going to be fixed by using electric over diesel.
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I'm getting a lot of pressure from the wife to start keeping a few chickens. I've done farm work before and know what that would mean, and I will be doing all the work. She knows a good amount about this, but has not had experience. Likely she will be at her job and I will be doing the animal care (scheduling just works out that way).
This would be a residential, backyard situation. They would have space inside a large coop which is part of a detached garage used as a shed, and a connected chicken run outside that we can move.
It's been a while since I've worked with chickens. How much cost to feed 3 or 4 hens? Any easy to forget tips before starting out?
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>>2731177
Hens eat roughly 1/4 lb of feed per day. I buy the organic feed because it's mostly grains and non-organic grains are often dried using glyphosate. It's about $26 for 40 lbs or $0.65/pound which translates to about $0.17 per hen per day. I pay a bit more than that because I ferment my chicken feed with apple cider vinegar and greek yogurt and I add garlic, cayenne pepper, and crushed lump charcoal to their feed to improve their health, the egg quality, and the quality of their manure. Once you have a good culture established you can stop adding the vinegar and the yogurt and just use feed from the previous batch to ferment the new batch. Hopefully I'll be able to grow enough peppers and garlic this year to feed my chickens all of next year and that will cut most of my costs and I can work on making my feed from scratch. Here's a good guide on how to do that.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/articles/wholesome-home-made-chicken-feed-without-sweat-tears-a-calculator-or-deep-pockets.78655/

As for a tip, if your city doesn't allow roosters and you have issues with hawks then you can paint eyes on something or buy a bird scare like pic related and move it around your yard a couple times each week.
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>>2730012
Best SHTF tractor is a workhorse. Runs on gras and hay, multiplies, isn't dependent on any industrial parts or fuels, has all terrain 4WD, pulls ploughs, wagons, logs etc.
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Is there an area of a red state that doesn't drop below 20 in winter/over 90 in summer, has water, is naturally green, and minimal natural disaster risk?
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>>2724333
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>>2731301
Thank you, this was helpful!
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>>2731545
No problem, anon. Good luck with your girls.
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>>2731449
No.
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>>2731080
>>2731174
Alright. Thank you.
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>>2731449
Congrats on your new home in Appalachia, the poorest and least desirable area of these United States.
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What do you guys think of all the small/local farms and home gardens that are being shut down in the US and Europe?
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>>2731925
if they dont comply with regulations, then they get closed. If they comply with regulations it gets expensive. But the big companys are somehow able to survive, arnt they?
So in total, they need to step up their game if they wanna keep their farm, some middle aged farming techniques with old ass machines doesnt work today.
Same as jobs are being laid off because people dont wanna educate themself.
>dont educate yourself somewhere else.
Its easy being lazy and reap the same rewards as someone who does R&D.
Our whole land is contaminated with nitrate, it stinks everywhere, its bad for the soil in the long term as the bad parts of shit go deeper into our water thus why water treatment facilitys need to up their cleaning capacitys. Its like to clean up after yourself.
The planet is not yours, you cant do whatever you want, you can on a small scale as a hobby, but as soon you get money, there will be people watching.

Anyway, why are the small/local farms are being shut down from your point of view?
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>>2732096
>Anyway, why are the small/local farms are being shut down from your point of view?
Greed, of course. Possibly Agenda 21/30 conspiracy where they intend to prevent everyone from growing their own food so a large portion of the population dies of starvation while the rest is forced to eat bugs.

Your post is confusing, btw. You list these things big corpos do but get away with, then blame small farmers and hobby gardeners.
Organic small farmers (such as the Amish and others) don't use the synthetic fertilizers contaminating everything; they don't need to. Neither are they trying to cheat the system someway; people are simply willing to pay more for the health and quality of their products. Yet they are the ones getting targeted and forced to sell their land for cheap.
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>>2732096
>$1 shopping credit has been deposited to your monsanto-fanclub membership card
Small farms still feed more than half of the world population with much less land, industrial inputs and funding. They also keep the genetic diversity of our crops and domestic animals alive and are generally less harmful to soil, water and natural ecosystems.
Small farms have just been taken out to remove competition for agrochemical cooperations. All regulations and laws are written by their lobbyists. They are trying to even make exchanging your own seeds illegal ffs. You already need a loicense to sell seeds and it needs to be from registered variants. Supporting this is suicide on a civilization level.
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>>2724900
Weed bad
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>>2732839
So true
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>>2731925
I think that it's being intentionally done by corporate agg to simply help their bottom line by destroying what is essentially a small business. Exactly what's happened to other kinds of small businesses, regulated into the ground.
Culturally farming is an undesirable job, the children of farmers are ingrates that have no desire to work hard and pass the family farm to future generations, they just wait for their parents to die and sell the farm to pocket the cash.
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>>2734433
>>2732543
Mostly these but >>2732096 has a few points. Most small farmers refuse to learn more agricultural science or change their practices. This tendency towards stagnation contributes to small farms being shut down because they end up destroying their soil and they can't absorb the loss like big companies can.
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Hello
I've been growing various sprouts in pots outside and they're getting devoured by snails and slugs
I don't want to use pesticides.
I've tried some diatomaceous earth but the weather here is so rainy, the earth get soaked right away.
The space I have my pots in is shared with some neighbors and one of them have this tray full of withered plants that is also fill to the brim with snails. I have moved this tray further away from my pots for now.
I feel bad about killing them myself cause I find them cute, but picking up all of them to drop them somewhere would just move the issue, though my sprouts would be safer.

Am I retarded for feeling bad?
There is a lot of field and forest around my area, should I drop them there anyway?
Should I summon my inner french and cook them?

I have a bokashi bin, if I kill them, do they decompose well in that?
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>>2725424
>>2725422
Nice depleted dead dry soil faggot
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>>2734691
Crush up some egg shells and scatter them over the soil. They'll stop moving over any soil with the egg shells on top because the sharp edges hurt. Look up what plants repel slugs and snails and grow some in small planters that you can put in between your seed trays. Pick something long lived and hardy like mint or chives. Dropping them in your bokashi bin is fine, but the shells probably won't finish dissolving by the time the batch is ready. I have a friend who swears by beer traps, but it would be hard to use them to protect your seedlings. Good luck and don't give up, anon.
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>>2725547
Google The Field Lab. The guy recently died but his over decade blog is still up and he posted everyday. His earlier entries are gold for ways to survive out in the Big Bend.

I do know that he would pump water out of the creeks during rain events. He never ran out of water.
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>>2734710
I'll try the egg shells
I wonder if applying sand on my pots would also work, or sand paper
I"ve noticed my plant on my higher pot aren't as damaged
So basically I have to make a whipeout trial to reach my plants if I want to go the pacifist way
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>>2734691
>>2734766
Don't bother with dumb shit like copper, egg shells, cinnamon and all that other slug repeling stuff that does nothing.
They hide under pots, stones and any other shady, moist places, take a knife, look under those and cut any slug you find in half, do it a few times and you won't have a slug problem anyone, 1000% more effective than anything else.
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>>2734766
>I wonder if applying sand on my pots would also work, or sand paper
Give it a try with a few pots and see which ones get more slug damage. You can also use crushed oyster shells which you can buy in bulk at any store that sells animal feed. It should be near the chicken supplies and a 50lb bag should cost about $20.

>So basically I have to make a whipeout trial to reach my plants if I want to go the pacifist way
Pretty much. Once you take them outside you should use trap crops, intercropping, slug/snail traps, and put down eggshells, oyster shells, or sand if it works. Using multiple strategies is always more effective than using one, but you could experiment by sectioning up your garden and using different combinations of strategies to see which ones you find easiest and most effective. While you're there you could pick up some chickens or ducks to help eat your slugs and snails. Nasturtiums are a good trap crops in general and they act as a natural dewormer for birds so allowing your birds to forage in your nasturtiums could eliminate your need for traps and you'd get a free deworming treatment at the same time.
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>>2734769
>>2734774
I dropped 2 of them in water to drown them but after 10-15 seconds of watching them trying to reach the surface to breath, I've decided I wouldn't be living with that kind of guilt

I took a box, taped it so they wouldn't come out of it and gathered about 30 of them in
then the next day I dropped all of them behind my work office
Office isn't in a completely urban area and the place I dropped them has a bit of greenery
I'll keep relocating them until there isn't as much near my pot and I have the money to get some abrasive surface to stuck on my pots
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>>2735536
Solid plan. Let us know how it goes. Good luck, anon.
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>>2734696
I couldn't help it being dry then, it hadn't rained in a while, but it is definitely not dead, I amend it with compost and cover crops after season. Seethe harder nigger
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>>2735555
If you add biochar to that compost then you'll help increase the water infiltration and holding capacity of the soil more than you would with just compost. That could help get you through when the rain doesn't cooperate.
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>>2726176
whats the plan behind this & what are the benefits?
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wife and I bought 10 acres in 2022. she designed hoose/floorplan, had it turned into official blueprints. construction began June 2022. sold old hoose (fully paid off) may 2023. moven into new homestead June 2023.

so far we have:

planted 30 trees. at least 20 of them are fruit trees.

built barns and enclosures for livestock (chickens, ducks, turkeys, guineas, quail, rabbits, pigs (sold), and dairy sheep.

2x frost free heads installed 175ft from hoose. one at livestock, one at orchard.

3 seperate irrigation systems for berries, trees, and other garden areas.

cattle panel arbors installed in raised beds for tomatoes, peppers, melons, squash.
built a "solar shed" from scratch, using leftovers from hoose construction.

mounted 2500w PV on shed roof, 12k charge controller/inverter & 300AH battery storage.

DEEP water well installed w/ Grundfos10 effecient pump.

2 EG4 12,000 btu HVAC mini-splits w/heat pump.

3 wood burning stoves. one in Great Room. one in Master Bed. 3rd is wood fired oven/range in kitchen.

basement is already stocked with canned harvest from 2 years prior, and 3 years of freeze dried foods.

Building and acquiring wool processing equipment.

it's a GIGANTIC project, having just been here one year, next month. it's nowhere NEAR what we want it to be, but it is amazing how far we have brought it in 12 months. each day we further improve upon it.

well... there's my blog. my apologies.
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>>2735601
NTA. There are a lot of benefits to amending your soil with biochar. It improves the texture of clayey soils, improves water infiltration and retention, holds nutrients, indirectly helps to buffer pH, increases the number of soil microbes, ect. Charcoal is considered uncharged biochar, which is what anon put down, and it can suck up nutrients when applied directly similar to wood chips. Applying it with compost or manure will mitigate that. Charcoal can be "charged" by soaking the charcoal in compost/manure tea and optionally adding beneficial microbes, which is the ideal form to use as a soil amendment. It also has benefits as a livestock feed.
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>>2735634
Living the dream
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>>2735637
i understand the use of biochar but why cover the ground like that with it?
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>>2735682
That's how you amend soil without tilling or digging. Eventually worms and such will move it into the ground
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>>2735634
sounds like a great setup anon. re:
> it's nowhere NEAR what we want it to be
it's a lifelong process. you're lucky if you don't have a year where some crop or group of animals doesn't go to shit, so you're always pivoting or improving or delaying. it's what you make it though so there's an incredible amount of freedom in what you can do if you have the funds to do so. my grandparents were still caring for chickens, picking apples, and cutting firewood well into their 80s.
just do what you can, maybe look into a side hustle of selling whatever your homestead produces, and enjoy the process. keep us updated.
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>>2728211
he thinks well be living in houses!
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>>2729020
idk what ur building but u can get dirt cheap or free materials from construction sites that are knocking down old buildings
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>>2729791
stop mowing lawn and throw food scraps all over. ensure as little edible food as possible is thrown outside. just mostly the greens of carrots or roots of onions etc. once ur lawn grows to natural there will be more biodiversity and insects and birds that will predate the mosquitos
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>>2731309
>workhorse
Why not an ox?
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>>2737185
You have enough resources to feed and upkeep?
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Anons is building a small house that difficult? Unfortunately im a worthless suburb fag so I don’t have any experience with construction. Would it be better to just continue to save and buy a small structure or prefab house or some thing?
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>>2738357
Depends on what kind of house we're talking about. If it's a fully modern one, with plumbing, sewage, electricity, heating, etc., it can be quite difficult a single person to build.
On the other hand, a simple house with foundation, walls, and roof, maybe a chimney for heating? It is simple enough that you can learn from reading and watching YouTube videos.
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>>2738357
>>2738392
There are also public forests in USA where you can get logs for free to build a cabin (though you may need a permit).
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>>2738395
What to search to learn more?
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I understand that when harvesting rhubarb you don't want to take too many stems else subsequent ones will grow more slowly, but how many is too many?
My current practice has just been to leave them three stems per crown and harvest one when a fourth develops, though I've no idea if I ought to be allowing them more.
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>>2738509
No idea. I simply saw mentions of it while reading about log cabins, land management, land clearing, etc.
Try googling it just like that and see what comes up.
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>>2738627
>>2738509
>>2738395
https://www.blm.gov/programs/natural-resources/forests-and-woodlands/forest-product-permits

You know google is free, right? You can just put in any search term and see what comes up.
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>>2731301
>non-organic grains are often dried using glyphosate.

I didn't realize that the big brand layer and broiler feeds were dried using glyphosate until very recently. I've raised chickens in the past with the same feeds and used the manure just fine, but things must be different now. My hens are a year old but have been given this for roughly 6 months, and the non organic straw we use for bedding has never caused issues when used for mulching strawberries, etc.

I had been wondering where the toxicity was coming from for so long.



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