Thoughts? Recommendations?
I am on page 60 .Enjoying it thus far from a plot,language and intrigue perspective.
>>23397130Since I'm trying to write a book taking place during the early '50s, I always keep an eye on language used in books from this era. "Nigger-pink" is one of the more interesting words I've picked up and added to my vocabulary.
>>23396535Women wearing a dress like that makes me wanna coom
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>>23396535I need a good female writer to put in my list of influence in my gay query letters with my fake Jewish pseudonym. It's all so fake and gay, indeed, but I need recommendations. I've never read a female writer's work, except To Kill a Mockingbird, in like 8th grade circa 2002.
Currently reading the “Shelley The Pursuit” as a companion piece alongside Shelley’s Poetical Works.Any recommendations on what I should read next? I have Coleridge, Wordsworth, De Quincey, Lamb, and Byron in mind.
>>23395733>Blake has catastrophic quality control, as bad as Wordsworth. If you can, get an illustrated Songs of Innocence and Experience which is total kino. Approach his longer poems with cautionFiltered. Blake's prophecies make up some of the best poetry in the English language. His other poems outside of Songs of Innocence and Experience that aren't prophecies are also good.
>>23395810>Blake's prophecies make up some of the best poetry in the English languageDo they though?
>>23395526I read and loved Southey's Life of Nelson when a kid; Clare can be read through rather quickly, though his easiness is a little deceptive; very interesting poet. ..It's SUTH-ee btw.
>>23395733>DO NOT BUY a Wordsworth poetical works/collected/complete unless you are actually doing a PhD on himWhat if I have anxious autism about selected works editions? It feels like someone else making up my mind for me.
>>23396676Sorry, the The Junior Woodchuck Guidebook says you're wrong.>Southey's biographer comment: "There should be no doubt as to the proper pronunciation of the name: 'Sowthey'. The poet himself complained that people in the North would call him 'Mr Suthy'" (Jack Simmons: Southey (London: Collins, 1945), p. 9).
Release day is here who is copping this
I started reading it and it's better than I thought although nothing really stands out. I don't know why they put that retarded shit as the first story...it's easily the weakest one I've read so far.I mean she has some talent but she needs to do a lot more work and find her real voice.
>>23397351>someone managed to progress to story twoimpressive
Lockwood can at least hold a sentence, and sometimes even string a few together. Her problem is dull predictability, particularly when she's trying to be shocking. Like Moshfegh and all those creative writing people there is a kind of functional American cleanliness about it.Recently there's been a lot of Young writers trying to break away from that, and though I'm not sure mid 2020 internet schizo babble (perhaps a level removed from l33t speak) is the stylistic revolution they've been looking for, the new wanna be avant garde is at least trying to be different. This effort might be transparently simple and overly affected but at least she knows to do something new. If the first quarter of the century has been defined by an intentional avoidance of style (for commercial as well as ideological reasons) if literature is going to have any sort of staying power (forget about a comeback) we need more of that. Personal guesses that some kid on substack is going to figure this out and make a boatload of money.Then every masculinity coach and influencer will take notice until finally, 6 or 7 years too late, penguin will try and follow through. (>>23394484 , >>23394878)
>>23385423Yes, yes, yes, I do.
>>23385219>>23385141...what the fuck did I just read?
>>23395249What is phenomenologically different between losing your explicit memory and dying (at least in the way you describe)? My answer: there is none.I think after we die, we lose *connection* to our explicit memory, but the experiential continuum continues on. This could happen now even.Watch my "My Stroke of Insight" with Jill Bolte. She talked about experiencing extreme retrograde amnesia and can no longer identify photos of her family. There is a phenomenological gap between her present personal identity and the past.
>>23392222There’s no good logical arguments for life after death. The only thing that can lead you to think of such a thing is the inability to detach from your human consciousness into the state of pure nothingness; you just can’t understand the state of being dead, being nothing. The only “argument” for theism isn’t an argument, but rather an intuition, a feeling that there has to be a life after death, stemming from the inability to detach from the human element of life into death. Obviously, there is no reason to rationally think that you will survive your own death, but the intuition is always prevalent.
>argumentI don't need one. I just know.
>>23396112but how can we know there is truly "nothing" after death? the possibilities of what can happen are infinite, dont you agree?
>>23396112>>23397505Neither of you have heard the punchline to that joke?Is there life after death?The question is fruitless, and beyond that irrelevant.Arguing for either is the funniest wild goose hunt to watch someone go down.You get some who panic, some who find faith, others who delve deep with the tools of science.All of these people are the punchline, it's fucking hilarious.
Pipe Smoke EditionOld Thread: >>23350723
Where do whores go?
>>23396809whorethoryos
>>23396809helltysha wasn't a whore though so tyrion may yet find her
ugh
sansa basically killed her dad
I bought the complete volumes of The Story of Civilization by Will Durant today for twenty bucks from an old college professor today. Is it any good?
>>23395191those images have lots of words>I made themand see relevant to op topic yes?
>>23394061He's copy pasted this into every thread o. Durant. And yes, everything you said is true. Sounds like a bitter gatekeeper. The book is fine. His strong suit is the discussion of philosophers and the arts, which is actually important.
>>23393839>>23394024>>23394024>>23393889Durant is a decent writer, awful historian. I could only get through the first volume before setting aside this series. Just take his account of a historical phenomenon and set it next to the actual history to see how bad it is. For me, I had recently read an in-depth account of the reunification of Japan before reaching his chapters on the same subject. His portion on this period of Japanese history read like a child's fable. If I remember correctly, he portrays the three unifiers as lifelong friends who allied with one another for the express purpose of uniting the country? He also calls Hideyoshi 'monkey-face'? I hate the way he separates art - economics - military history. He'll cover a millennium of military history, then breeze back through describing the art in each century. He's horrible at providing any coherence or context. Durant was barely qualified to write the history of anything, yet he basically attempted a history of everything.
>>23397256>Read what everyone says is the roughest work. >Judge the next 11,000 pages on it. Surely he became somewhat more "qualified" over the course of 50 years of research and writing, traveling to world, and talking with historians? The first book is a mile wide and so an inch deep and in 1930s style. You don't read Durant for a history outside the West though, particularly because his strong suit is philosophy and how it interacts with art and culture.
>>23397509>>23393864Is the first book really a chore to read through? Note that I don't expect a fully up-to-date evaluation, I am aware that it was written early in the 20th century
What book should I read?>La Quête du Graal>Le Roman de Silence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Roman_de_Silence>Ségurant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segurant,_the_Knight_of_the_Dragon>Dashiell Hammett's complete novels>Fermata by Nicholson Baker>Le Premier Homme by Albert Camus>Becket by Jean Anouilh>Once Upon a Time in Hollywood by Quentin Tarantino>Clarissa by Samuel Richardson>Pamela by Samuel Richardson>Tom Jones by Henry FieldingLet me know in the comments below and don't forget to like and subscribe! It really helps the algorithm in putting the post out there.
What is your experience with people who write?Here is mine:If male: extremely insecure, want to be viewed as smart and wise more than actually having substance. Pedantic in their writings and can fool some people with it (mostly women if they are good looking, or undeducated people who are impressed by big words). Extremely envious of other peoples sucess. Try to be obscure and random for the sake of it to generate fake depth. They want to have an aura of mystery by adopting the suffering artist persona. In a word, try hards. Often influenced by movies and games more than books. Left wing. Prototype: DFW but more obscure and random maxxingIf female: writes poetry with no rhyme based on something she lived or felt. Not very different from a journal in most cases, but the more talented ones actually imbue their routine impressions with some appearance of artistic merit. Want to have an aura of mystery by adopting the wise mystical woman persona. Wishy washy or outright incoherent in their writing, can get some men to pretend to be impressed by it if shes hot because they wanna hit it. Often promiscuous art hoe types. Left wing. Prototype: Clarice Lispector or Anais Nin (without her insight but as much promiscuous)
>>23387774>What is your experience with people who write?Never met one.
>>23387774I was a writer for a number of years, and I think your characterization is accurate, at least at the beginning (the male one anyway, if I troon out I will c/d the second). But it's less true the more you write, because it becomes impossible to be around the "writer persona" all the time, and he interferes with the process of writing. Successful writing (you define "success" here - usually amusing yourself/ connecting with the reader/getting paid in some proportions) is more rewarding than imagining yourself as some archetypal Writer.I'd say the characterization is true for those who aspire to be writers, and probably for writers when they are away from their desk and forced to play The Writer role in public. For serious working writers, like serious working plumbers or anyone, it has to be about The Work, or else it will not be. Nobody cares about you really, writer or not, and time spent thinking about your image or whatever is time wasted. Even your "fans" in any case a love a persona, but the benefit of writing from a place of truth is that the persona they love can be arbitrarily close to the Real You (and this is a more dangerous temptation than aspirational dreams of Art and Glory, unless you just LOVE WRITING I would suggest trade school as the healthier option.)
>>23395398>4-The casual genius that works in something completely unrelated to literature but is passionate about books; wrote insane poetry but never had enough confidence in herself to keep going. How do I find a woman like this?
>>23397524And I would add that this is only ever true for writers of fiction/opinion/autobiography and other cases of "personal writing", where the ego is to some extent the subject, do self-absorption to some degree is a job requirement. For real writers with a real "beat" - whether journalistic or technical - none of this applies at all, because in addition to Craft there is Subject which crowds out egoistic concerns. (One side benefit of doing lots of personal writing is you plumb the depths of how not interesting you actually are, and eventually move on to more interesting subjects.)This is not in evidence in, for example, "academic" (humanities) writing, which is turgid and dumb and incredibly egoistic. The Universities should burn for many reasons - certain departments at least - and one can be sure that zero writers would be affected.
>>23387774>What is your experience with people who write?Let me tell you my experience with people who write shitty posts.They have no worth, they don't actually care about anything, they aren't actually relevant to the topic, they squeeze bullshit out their ass *through AI*, they fucking suck the dick of the donor, (my dick), and they keep coming back for more!Cheers.
I need suggestions for a philosophy book,not an introduction but a primary source non-fiction philoosphy book that is easy to undertand and then others books to increase the difficulty trough time, i dont care about reading philosophy cronological, I only want some interesting book from wathever movement,time or author.
>>23396398Hellenistic Philosophy: Selected readings of epicureanism, stoicism, skepticism, and neoplatonismThis is a good starting point. Most all of the readings are pretty easy.
>>23396398Here's a good one.
Sex and Character - Otto Weininger
>>23397399I don't think you read my post >>23396489
>>23396885>It's all fluff>animeposter.jpgYeah, you should go study logic so that when posters call a work a "technical challenge", you'll understand what they mean.
Where do you read your books /lit/erates?>in an armchair>on the couch>on a couch>in bed>on a park bench>in bath>on a grassy meadow, your back against an ancient tree, the gentle song of birds the only sound to be heard>on the shitter?
>>23397438 On my balcony. Then, when night falls and the kids on my street are drinking and playing loud music, I go inside and read on my couch.
>>23397483that sounds nice, anon. my neoighbour is an old lady who sits on the balcony 24/7 and whenever i come out she will try to talk to me about some random bullshit and cant take a hint. wish i could read in peace on my balcony, too.
>>23397438I read for 3 hours a day at work. Don't really read on my days off unless I'm really in a mood.Lots of downtime at my job and reading is a nice way to pass the time. I don't got a smartphone.
In the bus/subway while going to university so as to not waste 1 hour of my time. True grindset .
>>23397538Imagine if you had to drive to university, the time you would have lost. The luxury of public transit.
>tfw there are like 85 bible verses talking about universal salvation and 2 suggesting eternal chastisement
>>23397252What is the end goal? For us all to return to godhead? If so how can there be souls permanently alienated from him?
>>23397261Post your Behemoth. Oh wait, you haven't made one. Stop asking questions, worm.
(/lit/ edition)WHAT ARE YOU>READAN>LISTENAN>EATAN>DRINKAN>WATCHAN>PLAYAN>FAPPAN>FEELAN
>>23394877>READANAt the second, NOTHING. I hammered out several articles, did all my billing for the week, and am letting my brain rot in it's skull cage for a few minutes, desu.>LISTENANGroovy J-oldies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhdRJMSKse4>EATANThick miso ramen with slabs of beef added for extra flavor. Hell yeah. If I'm still hungry I'll add some senbei alongside the coffee. >DRINKANCoffee spiked with whiskey. Might add some vodka-infused whipped cream if I feel fancy.>WATCHANComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>23394877>READANMedieval Europe by Chris Wickham and Dramas, Fields And Metaphors by Victor Turner>LISTENANThe James Gang, but my playlist is huge as always>EATANnot much, gonna make oatmeal & eggs or toast in the morning >DRINKANcoffee>WATCHANnothing>PLAYANnothing atm, might fire up EU4 tomorrow >FAPPANnot in the moodComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>23395061I’ve read his lectures on aesthetics and wasn’t impressed
>>23395279Unfortunately I'm also too deaf for any white noise machines to be able to work that well>>23396240>>23396250Same brosI've still got about 8000 words left to write and then I'm fucking outta here
>>23396882Journey is good but it is an incredibly negative book the entire way through. Instead of having your soul wrenched out you'll probably just be annoyed at how whiney the MC is by the end. Still a good book. I recommend that.
Let's talk about commas!>It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a wife.In this opening line by Jane Austen in 'Pride and Prejudice', you see she employs what is considered by some to be a very unnecessary comma. At least technically.There are many different House Rules about when and where to deploy a comma.For example, in sets of three, sometimes people use a comma to separate all words, or others just to separate the first two.>Life, Love & Happiness.I feel that there is no universal hard-set rule about commas in the world simply because they are so pervasive and omniscient in literature.Another thing people do sometimes is use too many commas! Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>23396102There are hard rules about commas if you wish to write grammatically correctly. Fiction does not have to conform to those rules exactly. Commas are used to distinguish dependent clauses. I agree that your example from Pride and Prejudice is a strange use of a comma. This is because the word "that" seems to already function as a comma should. The way Austen's sentence is written, one would assume that the words contained between the commas were extraneous. However, were to eliminate those words, you would have a sentence that read: "It is a truth universally acknowledged must be in want of a wife." which makes no sense. This sentence could have been written as>It is a truth universally acknowledged that a single man in possession of a good fortune must be in want of a wife. >It is a truth universally acknowledged that a single man, in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a wife. >It is a truth universally acknowledged: a single man in possession of good fortune must be in want of a wife.>It is a truth universally acknowledged: a single man, in possession of good fortune, must be in want of a wife.You probably would not want to use a semicolon here because the word "it" refers to the truth that has not yet been expounded, so you would not like to separate these clauses so strongly. I think the truth is, Jane Austen just wanted you to pause in certain places as you read the sentence. "It is a truth universally acknowledged [pause] that a single man in possession of a good fortune [pause] must be in want of a wife." Ultimately, if the grammatical choice made for artistic purposes does not impact readability in an unintended way, it isn't a big deal.
>>23396764The book you're looking for is called The Elements of Style. No degree required.
>>23397431It's important to be strategic about when to use commas and punctuation in general.You need to think about things like the weight of the words, the balance of the sentence, and pacing.With colons, I would just suggest this: be bold!>>23397442I like the second example you gave.>I think the truth is, Jane Austen just wanted you to pause in certain places as you read the sentence. "It is a truth universally acknowledged [pause] that a single man in possession of a good fortune [pause] must be in want of a wife." Ultimately, if the grammatical choice made for artistic purposes does not impact readability in an unintended way, it isn't a big deal.I think it's certainly made for the breath!>>23397445Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>23396198>It's true that sometimes commas are used in place of colons and semi-colons.ai post. stop testing your ai shit here
>>23397478Hey Retard!It was an earlier post in the thread which obviously you don't understand because you weren't Here at that time!Think about that.
Suggest books on Vajrayana and its Practice
>>23397154People want the cool shit like phowa and so on but really the quickest attainments are made with the simplest, most barebones practicesFour noble truths, noble eightfold path. I like Bhante Vimalaramsi's focus on metta as a fast way to progress through the insight jhanashttps://www.dhammasukha.org/metta-barebones-booklet
>>23397154Pointless suggestion. I began with Soto Zen. Seek Christ.
>>23397191>I began with Soto ZenRefer to >>23397154.
>>23396907Based. Did samatha meditation for over a decade and it took me a lot of places. Praying the Rosary has taken me to higher places.Agree with other poster saying that brahmaviharas are very effective. The love of Christ is even higher, deeper, incomparable.When you have a strong foundation of equanimity you are pretty far along the buddhist path but just beginning to be in a place of conforming your will to God’s.I could talk all day but I have to take care of my kids. Hope everyone in this thread finds what they are looking for.
>>23396897those colors are amazinggo knicks
/pg/ - Poetry GeneralPost poetry, your own or otherwise, and discuss. Critique and discussion constantly in dire supply. If you're looking for critique, consider giving details on what exactly you're wishing to improve in the work(s).
hate to ask here but does anyone have the screencap of that really long critique of The Tiger that was posted here?
When I look at you looking back at me,do eyes speak of longing, or wariness?All is time wasted it feels, but slumber.In dreams it seems, remains the only place where fondly you still speak, to love me yet.A thousand regrets for hurting you, forcoldly leaving you in such disgraced lack.I wish I could take my selfishness back,and instead, have chosen to love you more.There is no punishment severe enough,save for the loss, of he who cherished me.
The Bitter SinBeneath mine flesh, my bones doth rot,A putrid stench, a loathsome blot,Mine eyes are wet, my skin doth crawl,In this bitter sin, I am enthralled.A spectre fades, prospects bleak,So numbed by dreams I dare not seek.I cannot shake the fear that grips,A terror deep, that never slips.To be so wicked, to be so weak--Darkness festers, my soul doth leak.Consumed am I, by this dread plight,Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>23393338bump, reposting one of mine In this dream do you know me how I knew you? Lucid woe transmuted, a blindfold of bliss named "we" Mind lost to gardens, lotus flowers and wine.Intoxicating pools of the eye, level in reciprocity, like marbles on glass, dancing exchanges, trembles breath. For the continuance of these, nothing I wouldn't doIn wake the walk with Thanatos ceasless and trueClutching soil, dragged behind he "Which shatters first against me?""Sword or withered will? To rip you of these the pleasure is mine""Surrender" fate of dreams summized, ο θάνατος είναι βεβαιότητα"Exorcise they, see in me. Within mortals peace is without" treble so in deathComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
