https://youtu.be/VXYqqx8DwFY?si=-v3v3oTAR1fEfUtD
>>198738Yeah a lot of the early Gracies were not good people. I still respect George Gracie because he could actually fight and took his losses with good grace and cross-trained with anyone.
>>198803>While stuff like Muay Thai and BJJ have conflicting feetwork, Boxing and Wrestling kind of complement each other when you think about it.It really depends on the type of wrestling. Freestyle wrestling with the really low stance doesn't mesh with the upright boxing stance, so guys with freestyle backgrounds often end up taking an extra motion to switch between the two stances when they transition from striking to wrestling and vice versa. Historically Greco-Roman guys make the easiest transition from striking-to-wrestling because they already stand upright when wrestling.
>>198805>le bad IJF that wants to DESTROY judokek
>>198812More to this, if youre right handed you stand left foot forward in boxingIf you're right handed in wrestling you tend to stand right foot forwardThrows me off completely. Also with strikes around 80% of wrestling is pointless. You can't hand fight with someone punching/elbowing/headbutting. That is the handfighting
>>198819Sounds like you're just a shitty wrestler. Being ambidextrous for wrestling is something you should pick up year 1>80% of wrestling is useless with strikingLMAO
ITT: We take a non-extreme sport and change it to make it extreme.Marathon but you can sabotage your opponents any way you want. Weapons allowed. Basically the Road Rash game but on foot.Dodgeball with bocce.Polo but with rodeo horses.Water polo but the water is slightly acidic so your skin and eyes start to burn after a while and you can only get out (rotating with other team members) once you score.Any motor sport but without brakes.Soccer with bowling balls.Squash but the room is so narrow and you can get hit by the other player's racket.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>196111That's a new one
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Historically accurate Pankration.>Allowed to get out of chokeholds by bending/breaking your opponent's fingers or toes>Allowed to strike the back of the head (or anywhere really)>Allowed to strangle the throat with your hands>In an odd turn of events, a pankration fighter named Arrhichion (Ἀρριχίων) of Phigalia won the pankration competition at the Olympic Games despite being dead. His opponent had locked him in a chokehold and Arrhichion, desperate to loosen it, broke his opponent's toe (some records say his ankle). The opponent nearly passed out from pain and submitted. As the referee raised Arrhichion's hand, it was discovered that he had died from the chokehold. His body was crowned with the olive wreath and returned to Phigaleia as a hero.[10]
Parkour where you're chased by an MMA guy and you're not allowed to see the course ahead of time. Parkour guy wins if he reaches the finish line, MMA guy wins on KO, TKO or submission.I call it Xtreme Bullying
>>197974feels like it would be kind of similar to thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urmD9KIRonA
Insecure 5'9" dude here. If you could only pick one martial art as a manlet for self-defense on da streetz (like a rando walks up and wants to beat the shit out of you) what would it be? The only gym near me offers either Muay Thai or BJJ
>>198640>Or generic multi purpose grappling gyms. Which wrestlers/judofags tend to shit onNobody brought that up, but sure get mad about it.>discipline with less rules than the ones you are wanking in which I can use most techniques from those other artsMartial arts are more than just the sum of its techniques. The strategies/framework in which the techniques are developed from are driven by a specific context. You can do a high crotch or uchimata in no-gi, but all you're doing is a high crotch or uchimata in a submission grappling context with no clothing to grab. >To me grappling is grapplingIt clearly is not despite what you've convinced yourself.
>>198640>Or generic multi purpose grappling gyms. Which wrestlers/judofags tend to shit on...Having spent years in both wrestling and judo my impression has been that grapplers like to try other grappling styles when given the opportunity. >Please go to a judo open mat/comp and start doing wrestling and record it. Uta Abe did a sick headlock takedown to win a women's 52 kg match at the 2023 World Judo Championships, WebM related.
>>196917you should spend a lot of time thinking this through. You always want to escape (not fight). See it coming and avoid it. Don't be in the wrong place at the wrong time. If you must fight you fight to kill so you can win and not be killed. If you want to fight for sport join a gym and start sparring. Street fights are stupid. Watch the video of the Apple River fight/stabbing. Kids ganged up on old guy, punched him, pushed him, they were getting stabbed and did not eve know it. Stabber got convicted and is going to prison. So much for self defense. Carry small pepper spray, and knife. Learn when and how to use both. Randos attacking may be seriously mentally ill or drugged out, or both, or just hardened killers. You never know. Watch lots of vids about street fights and see how many people get sucker punched, stabbed, shot, get their head stomped, get dame brammage from banging their head on the concrete when they fall. A gun is good if you can carry one. Don't get too close, guns are distance tools. If you need to knife someone you have to get close, what if they have a knife too? Where do you stab, slash? The last thing you want to be fighting anyone anywhere in the street. The longer it goes on the worse for you. Spray, slash and run. Muay Thai will teach you elbows and spinning back elbows and fists which can be brutal. Best to just duck out and go home than fight.
>>197144Disagree. I've gotten way more injured in bjj than muay thai. Our gym does takedown incorporated into bjj and ultimately there is no real mitigation. You can break your fall, but 100kg hitting the ground is 100kg hitting the ground.I'll tske get punched in the face all day. If your training partner isn't a dick you'll be fine. Gravity is always a dick.Bjj/Judo is more for the young IMO. Muay thai has been more kind to me.
>>196917Any decent Martial Arts, the ones you mentioned are good. What you have is an strategic disadvantage, but you can overcome that with tactical and technical proficiency.Being shorter is only a disadvantage from a surface level, I would argue there are about the same number of advantages and disadvantages of being taller, you just need to look a bit more into the stuff you are learning, since it's more likely that the people you are practicing and learning martial arts from are closer to average height than you.
>when putting wraps, you should avoid wasting it wrapping around your palm as you only want to protect your outer handWhy? The purpose of putting on wraps is to tighten you hand as much as possible so you won't bust any of the 28 bones you have in your hand when you punch. Most of these small bones are located in your palm area. Yeah you should obviously protect the knuckles, wrist and thumb, but also your fucking palms.
Current setupThumb - WristPinky - Knuckles - WristRing - Knuckles - WristMiddle - Knuckles - WristThumb - Knuckles - WristWrist
>>198709Is that how you wished you looked like? pull your fucking pants up
>>198654Bitch, learn anatomy and mechanics and you will see how retarded you sound. Your knuckles are the most robust part, but the issue is that the metacarpian bones behind them are set up in such a way that when you apply force to the knuckles, that the leverages translate to them splitting appart, which can cause bone and, more importantly, tendon injuries.I can tell you have never punched with all your might ever.
>>198716>this confidently retarded>telling others to learn anatomyWhew is it summer already? My degree is 90% anatomy, you don't know shit. You're not punching so hard your metacarpals are splitting apart. And the tendons run parallel to the bone retard.>>198664I refer back to my other post. Boxers fracture are more common in boxing, despite OP alleging they use the safer wrap.
>>198716>>198732I am taking a shit & had a thought so lemme dump on you some more while I wash my ass with the bidet.>Your knuckles are the most robust partYou're fucking retarded. No matter what style of hand wrap is used, knuckles are the main focus. All the tendons for digit extension/flexion run through the knuckle & are most vulnerable at the joint. Almost all tendon ruptures/impingements occur at the joints.
>trying to decide between going for a walk or playing disc golf. Played disc golf yesterday for reference.
>>194090when someone gets brained with a disc it sounds exactly the same as when a disc nails a tree
>can hardly walk for two days>pain migrates around knee for five weeksPivot on your heel, anons.
>>197801that’s something i’ve been working on for a while. it’s difficult on hyzers to load onto my heel, but delaying my reachback as long as possible has actually made the most difference on the pivot. the robinson brothers both like to pivot off the ball of their foot more than not from what i’ve noticed but yeah most high-level golfers go on the heel.
Forehand bros ww@
>>198677JUST
Should I learn kickboxing?
>>198695The name may sound cooler but as a sport it's not
>>198696alright
>>198691Yes
It all depends the type you’ll do, k2 rules or no low kick kickboxing? There’s tons of different styles and rulesets, I will say that a good leg kick with proper form ends maybe 98% of street fights if not more
>>198701maybe i will learn this good kick with a proper form thing
what are some possible reasons my bike doesn't go as fast as it used to? the gears don't shift smoothly anymore and it feels like the chain is worn down but I don't know enough about bikes to assess it myself. my bike was built in 2007 so it's not new, but what are some common issues with a bike this old? I want to get it repaired so I can ride it again.
>>198615If you posted pictures or video that might help. Why do you think the chain is worn down? This is probably a better question for >>>/n/ and you might get more relevant eyes on it in /xs/ by asking in the mountain bike thread >>>/xs//mtb/
>Gegard Mousasi is not happy with the PFL.>“I think they bought Bellator but they don’t have the financial means to pay the fighters,” Mousasi said. “Whoever is not necessary, they will just not let them fight. Especially fighters that make a lot of money. Because Bellator fighters make more.>At the end of 2023, PFL acquired Bellator MMA in a landmark deal, which PFL executives promised would lead to a new era of MMA. Unfortunately, that new era has not extended to Mousasi, who has gotten off to a rough start with PFL, primarily over the lack of fights and even communication coming from the promotion. And after recently attending a PFL event in Paris where Mousasi still made no headway in booking a fight, the former Bellator middleweight champion has reached his limit.>“Yeah, [I feel disrespected] because they don’t even want to pick up the phone and talk to us,” Mousasi continued. “It’s not even funny anymore. It’s the worst organization so far. I’ve fought in a lot of organizations, this is the worst one.”
>Mousasi has not competed since dropping a decision to Fabian Edwards at Bellator 296 in May 2023. The former champion signed a new contract with Bellator prior to the company getting acquired, and Mousasi said he’s been told by PFL officials that they were not aware of his new contract when acquiring Bellator and that’s why he hasn’t been offered a fight.>“My contract is a couple million. ... Whatever deal you make, it’s not possible that someone slipped a letter between the other letters and no one found out. Everything has to be signed by lawyers. So whatever they did, they knew about it. They said they’d take everyone from [Bellator]. So they took me, they knew the contract, and now they’re like, ‘Well, they slipped it in.’ You’re not buying McDonald’s, you’re buying a million-dollar company. It’s not believable that they didn’t know and someone wanted to f*** with them, so they did a very fast contract and no one knew about it. It’s just not true. Everything has to go through lawyers. “I don’t know why you even took Bellator if you don’t have the money to let the fighters fight.”>“I’ve talked to legal council, I’ve talked to managers, lawyers, other people who worked for Bellator, I know I have a contract,” Mousasi said. “They owe me at least one fight, and then they can let the clock run out. At least. So it doesn’t start until I fight. Something like that. The problem is, you never know who is going to win in a lawsuit. So I hope it doesn’t get there.”https://www.mmafighting.com/2024/5/22/24162663/gegard-mousasi-threatens-legal-action-pfl-ive-fought-in-a-lot-of-organizations-this-is-the-worst-oneCo-leader by 2030!
In DnD, whenever I play, I absolutely hate when players who choose a martial class don't add flavour to their attacks. "I hit him with my sword 3 times", "I punch him twice" is the most you'll get out of them. I hate it even more when the DM does it or when when the DM doesn't allow accumulative damage in games if you target a specific area with enough strikes. I get that the dweebs at WoTC only put barely half the effort of making martials viable in high levels with the battlemaster fighter subclass, but do NONE of these guys have love for the "ART" part of martial arts? Theres so much flavour you can put, like if a player goes for an elbow to the face enough times there will be a cut above the eye that now gives the opponent a disadvantage on perception checks and attacks due to not being able to see. Or hell implement ANY sort of good ruleset for how grappling arts can be used in game to help break limbs, throw enemies to the ground or completely isolate/submit opponents. Or if the player makes a high enough dex check with a weapon once per the enemies turn, they can immediately parry and get a quick strike in.Maybe this is the price I pay for being into martial arts and dweeb shit at the same time but holy shit is it ever annoying. Especially when no one seems to want it changed.
>>197461LARP rules for Vampire are literally rock paper scissors for success/failure.
>>196773GURPS you absolute flaming faggotYou've fucked up so badly sticking to DnD that you're now spreading this irrelevant shit on boards that have absolutely nothing to do with itGet off 4chan, play GURPs and stop bitching
>>197461With some LARPs like that one there's a larger organization with interconnected stories so they're usually handled with a greater degree of standardization and fewer house rules than some one-off game you run locally for your friends. The game session I joined had at least a couple dozen players and several GMs who had to communicate and coordinate with each other to run that single session in that single location.
>>197495Does Vampire the Masquerade LARP also include weird BDSM shit? I always heard only degenerates and perverts play VtM.
>>198625Not a LARPer myself, but I heard from a friend that did amtgard or whatever it’s called that larp events are basically nerdy fuck fests
Not sure if this is supposed to go on /xs/ or /sp/, but what do you think of the sport? All I see on here is HEMA.I'm trying to get into it and I'm looking to pick up some gear. I probably want to fence Epee. Any recommendations? The club has gear, but a lot of it is gross and sometimes not working, especially for left handed stuff.
>>195990About 15 years ago I won an epee bout with a spinning jump attack. I am still proud of that to this day.
>>195995Next thing you're gonna say chess grandmasters should become military general or some shit.
>>196347Kharkiv. They've still got their salesmen going around at the European competitions, and there's also a newer Ukrainian fencing manufacturer that's popped up around 2021 called Folo, they just so weapon components and wires right now.
>>115460Why does Olympic fencing take place on a linear strip instead of a circular arena? Is this a compromise for electric scoring or an older convention?
>>198638Older convention, evolved from Italian rapier fencing that theorized that controlling the center line was the safest and most efficient way to attack the opponent, continued on with smallsword fencing which became foil and subsequently epee. Saber too since foil fencing was often taught as a training exercise for saber since it taught really good point control.
Did we jump timelines again? How the fuck is this actually happening? Am I being fucking bamboozled?
>>197865I don't have extra 100
>>197865It's way cheaper than that, tank at spotlight was $70, Medical Oxygen Mask from the pharmacy $20. Got them in the cupboard for when the time is right.
>>190550FPBP
>>197864In such an obvious fight what do you stand to win?It's like 1:1000000 odds
>>190538This was the first fight I am interested and betting in and have learnt that in my state I can only place bets by going in person to a tribal run casino. I intend on betting on Iron mike, he might be old but this is mike tyson we are talking about. He is going to beat Jakes ass.
>completely ban elbow strikes>signed Ngannou a year ago, he hasn’t fought once>drop $100 mil on Bellator ‘for its roster’, now decide they’re gonna keep the rosters separate >signing Jake PaulIs Dana actually a good businessman or are his competitors just retarded?
>>198474ONE literally has no fucking clue what they are doing, any event outside of Singapore will have interns outside handing out free tickets to randoms, they have constantly fucked over fighters and fans and the sport of Muay Thai as a whole over and over again. ONE is deeply in debt and only Chatri's Yakuza Vampire powers can keep the business alive.
>>195930As retarded as Dana can be (power slap, actually slapping his wife in public) his competitors out-smoothbrain him by a country mile. PFL have already gone to the moon based on the amount of country miles they got on Dana
>>198474>One seems to be on the way to getting a stranglehold over AsiaI get the impression that when people call one 'the UFC of Asia' they mean 'the UFC of South-East Asia'. Idk how it is in other countries but having lived in China for ~three years now I can gurantee ONE is in no way shape or form more popular than UFC here.
>>198548I can't see how they'd be big in Japan or SK either. There's gotta be some kind of fuckery in the Prime accounting for the region "dominance" claim.
>>195930Dana is retarded but his competitors are even more retarded.>>198474>>198548ONE has been in the red for their entire existence. Despite all their fluffing, they have very publicly not made a profit.
What's your favorite martial arts movie?
You knew it was gonna be a good time when Jet Li and DMX were in the credits together
>>192428Second.Honorable mention: Duel to the Death for sheer ridiculousness.
Vision quest is a classic
>>191870All of the films mentioned in the thread are great, but for me Kung Fu Hustle is a cut above the rest.
>>191870The Art of Self-Defense
>If a boxer lands a Good hit on a grappler they wont get up anytime soonMakes you think
would bin ladin have been a good fighter? dude was tall as fuck, long reach
>>194661>long reachyeah no kidding
>>178177Maybe like get good at striking AND grappling.
>>178297i love how that counts as a knock down but what Justin landed on Max wasnt Glazing hard
Cain shut down JDS for 9 rounds.
Is this an extreme sport? WHat are some unusual sports i can get into besides skateboarding?
Zorbing
>>196561I don't know about extreme but it's fun. Extremely dorky to most people though. Camping/hiking/kayaking. Survival stuff. Primitive hunting
>>196561I wouldn't call it extreme. I suppose it kinda counts as a sport if their are official scoring criteria but it's very much a talent show level hobby. I think that cycle cross is an ususual sport that is fairly easy to get into. lots of local cyclecross events in my country. just bring an bike and have fun.
>>196561cyr wheelyeah.
Spinning tops.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLYazynm_1Mhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ew3wiP4BNw
