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Seems we don't got one right now, so I will start.

Pic related - it's from my LX100. I've heard that she is kinda prone to sensor dust, but is this actually sensor dust? Or an error on the Sensor?

There used to be two dots but I was able to eliminate one with the "vacuum cleaner trick" - cut out the bottom of a 0,5l bottle and put it over the extended lense. Then suck away.

Worked already two times for me, but not with this fucker.

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wtf is wrong with my rawtherapee settings
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>>4315004
snipping tool could accurately render the colors but rawtherapee couldn't...
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>>4315006
>why is free software messed up on windows
Linux and windows cant manage color profiles or hidpi, hidr screens worth a shit and using software so bad the programmer wasnt paid only compounds the issue

capture one + macbook pro
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>>4315004
I don't use that software, but it just looks like the image is scaled differently and the noise comes out looking different between them.
Zoom in 100% and see how different it is or isn't.
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>>4315008
>DUUUUDE just spend $3000 on hardware and software to fix this issue
thanks for your input wetbrain but that’s not an option
>>4315009
do you know any way to reset the scaling on the standard view? I really don’t care if the software is dogshit as long as what I’m looking at in the software is what comes out of it

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Used my art lens for the first time in a long time. Didnt have much time to compose these photos but I had fun taking them!

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>>4313112
Color is mostly determined by the lens
Then the CFA specs and proprietary raw cooking
Then by the raw converters settings
Then by the display medium and room lighting

Imagine if you could not shoot raw. One camera equals one film stock. Not happy? New camera time or gearfag over lens color transmission until the end of time.

Also, AWB fucking up? Always. Have fun manually setting white balance all the time.

Oh wait thats how fujislug consoomers actually live
>omg must buy for the new film sim!
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>>4313125
all that and it gets worse
8 bit color, 10 with limited compatibility, thats it
lossy format
being stuck with whatever shitty “sharpening” and “chroma/luma nr” the camera maker could fit on the shitty low-power chips that cameras must use in the name of battery life
if moire or fujiworms happen you are stuck with that

negative film unironically had more editing latitude and general utility than jpeg
jpeg = digital is worse than film period. only a fucking retard would accept this trash. 1hr photo automated printing does a better job. all digital photography looks like godawful soulless shit.
raw = ok, now digital is as good as consumer 35mm film… if you have like, 36mp, at least.

people mostly my age have no idea how much worse the average digital camera is compared to a $15 roll of portra in a cheapo nikon slr
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>>4313127
Well you know, it's all about the right tool for the job. They want to have pictures of things, while you're out shopping for a personality that'll be like all cool and artsy and special and stuff to sate that desperate need at the core of your being. (Don't worry, it usually sates itself around the mid twenties.)
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>>4313136
The bitchy insult at the end is an auto-L. Couldnt be more low test if you tried.
>dont do things well! dont care! Do the minimim AESTHETICS ARE IMMORAL
OK enjoy your drab box church, solid black outfit, and phone photos jebediah.
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How the fuck does literally everything stay in focus with this camera?
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>>4315067
It doesn't. The lens is just so bad that you can't tell the difference between in focus and out of focus
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because its basically a pinhole with a clear filter infront of it
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Fixed f/10, 1/100th, 30mm lens with ISO 800 film means its trying to cover as many situations as possible while maintaining a relatively sharp shot, but the lens is plastic, and kind of shit, so its always going to be a little soft and soupy.

Kodak do have a Tri-X disposable camera, which, with the flash on, makes for a fun street carry.
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I miss going on vacations with these and reliving the experience when the photos get developed
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it is likely ok-ish at distances 1,5m - infinity

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Going to zoos helps me work on my portraiture

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>>4315139

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>>4315141

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>>4315142

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Scilla bifolia edition

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>>4315118

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>>4315123
Side profile. Changed the shading/contrast a bit cause the lighting wasn't that great on the original to show off the scales on the wings.

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Wetplate colloidion macro of a dead bird. Must be something like 4:1 magnification.

Fun, but very challenging.

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Just splurged on picrel, basically a 4x5 Big Shot, what am I in for? Anyone ever even see one of these before?

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>>4314486
The limiting nature will make it a fun camera to use until you want more from a 4x5. Looks like the lens is worth at least 200 bucks, and it is cambo. I have no clue on the quality of takamura lenses.

You can say you own a cambo now as well!
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>>4314439
>what am I in for?
How do you get one and ask this after, are you retarded?
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>>4314681
It’s the 4chan way. My favorite is on /tv/, the ol “I’m about to watch X movie, what did I think about it?” And so on. Timeless setup.
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>>4314439
>Paying money for hard to use junk

Yep filmfags are terminal retards.
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>>4315120
>babby thinks f8 and be there is too hard
Can’t take a photo without the ai in your phone basically hallucinating it for you first, eh?

I had a question but there was no general so now this is the general.

My question: Are there any digishits out there with prime lenses that ARENT the original GR Digital? It has meme tax.

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>>4314977
It actually produces some fun looking portraits but the film is just retardedly unusable expensive now. And impossible imposed an extra fleece on everybody with 8 shots per pack instead of 10 and retards all just accept “bwuh we don’t know how to make em thinner!” As their excuse lol. Despite using the same machines and same process. Curious, are (((they))) behind impossible?
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>>4315012
Worst part is, you can load 10 sheets of the current thick film into a current model cartridge abd it'll work just fine.
Theyre straight up lying the little assholes.
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>>4315012
>>4315013
The big shot doesn’t use any of the current impossible (or is it just Polaroid now?) films, but the point is well taken.
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I am travelling for a year or so, I'm thinking of getting the sony nex-6 since it's lightweight and in my budget. Now for the lens, I have the same limitations, it need to be light, in my budget (100-200$), general purpose use. From what I've seen my options are pretty limited, going to 7artisans, but manual AF seems pretty shitty to use ? Otherwise a vintage lens with an adapter?
What would you recommend?
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>>4315099
I would say just use vintage manual lenses and learn how to read the focus scale, it actually becomes really easy to do after some practice and very effective when stopped down.

But at that point you might as well buy a dslr that uses the same mount and skip the adapter part all together, a dslr is going to have a way longer battery life, have shorter startup times and the crop bodies are usually pretty compact. The downside being that in that price range you're going to be more limited in low light

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digishit thread
hashtag dst thistime version

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On the heated seat thanks for the thread

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Thank you to all contributors and viewers.

New thread >>4315086
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>>4314793
>>4314790
what did happen to him
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>>4314793
You should have given him a warrior's death

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ITT: Post a picture, tell a story about it.

This was taken in Busan, South Korea. It's hard to see, but it was drizzling a bit at the time, and a few minutes later, it was pouring rain. I didn't bring an umbrella, and I was completely lost. I stopped under an awning outside of a restaurant to use my phone, and a Korean guy (maybe in his 40s) who happened to be driving by at the time stopped his car, got out, handed me an umbrella, got back in his car, and drove off, all without saying a single word. I tried to politely refuse (I actually like the rain), but he wouldn't take his umbrella back.
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>>4314889
Are you Michael Falk?
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>>4314889
This picture is significantly better than that guy who only posts leaves, rocks, and sticks. Well done.
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>>4314889
your posts read like ulillillia
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Now ex gf and I on a ride.
Feelsbadman, fucked it up being angry and depressed and mean after my mom died. Put a lot of pressure on her and pushed her away a lot.

She wasn't perfect either, but I try not to be too focused or mad about her failings, no point in holding onto bitterness
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This is a stone

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Is it truly possible to learn to have aesthetic/creative/artistic (or whatever word you want to use) vision, and intent with your photos? I’ve been taking snapshits sporadically for the better part of 20 years now (pops game me an ae1 in middle school), but I don’t think I’ve ever taken any really great pictures.
>picrel, Ken Rockwell sliders applied to mediocre snapshit
My pictures seem to be more, just what I see, essentially just capturing the world as it exists with little meaning or really interest I’d say. Even calling it documentary would be too generous, it’s more cataloguing if anything. Can one break out of this box? Or is creativity like other inborn traits where you can train and practice but there’s a limit to how much you can do with what you’re born with? (/fit/ sisters can relate). I know probably it isn’t the best place to discuss since we’re snapshitters amongst snapshitters here, but surely this isn’t as good as it’ll ever get, right?

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>>4315050
What's the matter? I agreed with you. It is well composed.
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>>4315068
That's not me lol, I don't care if people like my photos or not.
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ITT dogma.
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>>4315016
>muh triggurz
lol u played urself
and u lost
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>>4315081
very low iq response he must have btto you pretty hard

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No matter what I do, I can't get my Nikon Z6 II to capture a sharp photo.
Pinpoint AF, tripod, shutter delay, changing apertures, whatever. Even tethering and going completely hands off. Doesn't matter what I do or how I do it, everything always inevitably looks like shit down at the 1:1 pixel level. There's always a soft blur. Not a single point in the frame is ever truly sharp.

This is a problem because I got this thing with the intent to digitize a bunch of stuff including some pretty big originals (too big to fit in a flatbed scanner) where I want to keep fine detail with 1:1 framing, no zooming in for separate "detail" shots. I set a goal for the ability to frame something 19x13 and get a sharp quality 300 DPI, but this isn't cutting it. At all. I don't know if it's my lens (NIKKOR Z 50mm f/1.8) or if it's my sensor not having enough resolution. Maybe the AA filter is ruining my fine details? or maybe advertised resolution itself is a scam when behind a bayer sensor?

I only care about such fine details in situations where the camera will be mounted and capturing still subjects.
Would a camera without an AA filter do better?
Should I get a 45MP Nikon or a 61MP Sony?
Would pixel shift likely solve all my problems?


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>>4315055
Have fun with digital rendering of skin and hair and eyes!
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>>4315064
By the a7riii class of cameras with good lenses skin detail, hair, eyebrows, eyelashes, and eyes are as good as they are on 35mm or 645 depending on skill/gear (steady hand, correct shutter speed and focus, RF, or SLR with mirror lockup, pro stock not fuji 400)

You need MFD to compete with “real” MF and 4x5 with modern glass
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>>4315026
so when he takes pictures of his documents on film, how do you suggest he digitize them? why not just digitize the documents directly in the first place?
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>>4314924
Also a “lamp” is probably very low CRI, if it’s an LED or CFL bulb, even worse. For doing copystand work, you want a high CRI LED COB with a nice big modifier like a soft box with diffusion. Or a strobe. Profoto or Elinchrome if you’re ballin, Godox for a budget.


Honestly all of this seems like so much overkill for a documentation of hobby hoarding. If you’re not uploading to Archive.org or otherwise sharing the results with fellow collectors, what is the point? Autism?
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>>4315072
a7riii in 4 shot pixel shift

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Post pics taken with old digital cameras (2005 and older), im gonna post 3 i took today with my Fuji S2 Pro, i hate them because theyre cliché as fuck but hey theyre photos and i want an excuse to post em lmao

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Pulled out a Sony Cybershot F828 I’ve had knocking around for a bit but never got around to shooting with. Kind of like the hinged body/lens arrangement.

1/3

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Write speed for RAWs is fucking glacial though.

2/3

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Fun little digishit though. Maybe I’ll take it with me on a shoot one of these days and slap a wireless transmitter on the shoe.

3/3

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>>4314937
>>4314939
tlaquepaque is a tourist trap
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>>4314957
I’m not going to disagree with you on that, but I just like going there to futz around with my cameras. Plus, it’s only 20 minutes from my house.

I just think it’s neat.

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For love of the pentaprism.

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Curious how this messy picture changed...

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>>4314844
...into this

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>>4314844
>>4314845
I prefer the composition in the first post. The second one I'm not sure what the subject is and I think the scene as a subject isn't particularly evokative. The light is nice and the sky is nice but it doesn't do it for me.
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Screw mount 50 sometimes creates such magical images

>>4314922
Hey thanks for your feedback Anon. I just wanted to record the building process and try snap pics from several angles if possible

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>>4315062

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After shooing crop for 10 years I'm looking at getting a FF camera as my one-and-done. Is there any real improvement that the D810 has over the 800?
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>>4315047
Dont forget the leica guy that uses $25k of cameras to take photos of his corgi and backyard golf course

Hes more based than zeiss schizo
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>>4314707
Just buy Olympus
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I was at a cocktail party with Annie Leibovitz and she told me to shut my fat mouth and buy a sony a1, a 35mm f1.4 GM, a 50mm f1.4 GM, and a 135mm f1.8 GM if I wanted professional looking photographs I could use to build a career. Then Hoyte van Hoytema and Nolan spoke up and said “Amen to that, SISTAH!” and chugged their $600 martinis made with single bottle batch vodka from putin’s private stock (he was the bartender btw).

Trust me I drive an audi s8
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>>4315048
thank you

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>>4315052
Hoytema here. That happened.

If you cant afford a leica m11-p get a sony, for sure. Also vape weed. It makes you smarter.

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They are for sure gonna release something new and spicy very soon because the market conditions dictate it, but what do they have in the pipeline spec-wise?
R5MK2 with higher megapickles and faster readout to compete with the z9 and z8?
Retro-larp camera to compete with fujifilm? Some even speculate in a R6MK3 because the MK2 is heavily discounted at the moment. The mythical R1? Maybe a plain RMK2?

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>>4314213
>muh fps muh 6mp
>no global shitter - bendorific readout
>no superior e mount ecosystem just bloated junk that somehow vignettes more than sony lenses
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>>4314239
>we all have arthritis
speak for yourself snoyboomer
>>4314243
>superior e mount ecosystem
yeah the r1 would have really enjoyed that 15fps from those 3rd party lenses on that 60fps body
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>>4314254
native sony lenses are the best on the market and brutally mog all cannot and niggor junk. 1.4 and 1.2 GMs are without equal. every lens sony releases somehow ends up the sharpest and smallest a lens in its class has ever been. meanwhile the fuckhuge rf 1.2s vignette more and are softer - how?
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>>4314261
The biggest drawbacks with the 50 1.2 is the chromatic aberrations and somewhat slow focusing motor otherwise I haven't seen much to indicate that snoy makes better products.
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>>4314261
>native sony lenses are the best on the market and brutally mog all cannot and niggor junk
lol


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