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Currently reading the “Shelley The Pursuit” as a companion piece alongside Shelley’s Poetical Works.
Any recommendations on what I should read next? I have Coleridge, Wordsworth, De Quincey, Lamb, and Byron in mind.
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>>23395810
>Blake's prophecies make up some of the best poetry in the English language
Do they though?
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>>23395526
I read and loved Southey's Life of Nelson when a kid; Clare can be read through rather quickly, though his easiness is a little deceptive; very interesting poet. ..It's SUTH-ee btw.
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>>23395733
>DO NOT BUY a Wordsworth poetical works/collected/complete unless you are actually doing a PhD on him
What if I have anxious autism about selected works editions? It feels like someone else making up my mind for me.
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>>23396676
Sorry, the The Junior Woodchuck Guidebook says you're wrong.
>Southey's biographer comment: "There should be no doubt as to the proper pronunciation of the name: 'Sowthey'. The poet himself complained that people in the North would call him 'Mr Suthy'" (Jack Simmons: Southey (London: Collins, 1945), p. 9).
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>>23397569
Really don't care one way or the other but just checked two (no doubt Geordie) sources both of which opt for Suth--
I myself was 'corrected' when reading one of his books (the book mentioned) as a kid, and I've simply stuck to that.

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Can anyone explain what the main themes of this book are supposed to be? I read it and it was cool, but I am kind of retarded when it comes to interpreting literature. To me it was just a book about a guy who makes a living by going into the zone and selling the stuff he hauls back. I watched the movie and I know that that was supposed to be about like the nature of human desire or something. Anyone have any insight? Am I a huge faggot?
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>>23394054
>A picnic. Picture a forest, a country road, a meadow. Cars drive off the country road into the meadow, a group of young people get out carrying bottles, baskets of food, transistor radios, and cameras. They light fires, pitch tents, turn on the music. In the morning they leave. The animals, birds, and insects that watched in horror through the long night creep out from their hiding places. And what do they see? Old spark plugs and old filters strewn around... Rags, burnt-out bulbs, and a monkey wrench left behind... And of course, the usual mess—apple cores, candy wrappers, charred remains of the campfire, cans, bottles, somebody’s handkerchief, somebody’s penknife, torn newspapers, coins, faded flowers picked in another meadow.
In this analogy, the nervous animals are the humans who venture forth after the Visitors have left, discovering items and anomalies that are ordinary to those who have discarded them, but incomprehensible or deadly to the earthlings. This explanation implies that the Visitors may not have paid any attention to, or even noticed, Earth's inhabitants during their visit, just as humans do not notice or pay attention to insects and wildlife during a picnic. The artifacts and phenomena left behind by the Visitors in the Zones were garbage, discarded and forgotten without any intentions to advance or damage humanity. There is little chance that the Visitors will return again because for them it was a brief stop, for reasons unknown, on the way to their actual destination.
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>>23395936
It wasn't banned thoughever. And commies hating and banning eachother for criticising capitalism "incorrectly" is nothing surprising.
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>>23394054
the themes are just "life sucks"
Tarkovsky wanted to make it le deep
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Always saw the end is that life had grounded down Red so hard that when he is in front of a literal wish granting machine he finally realize that h does not even have a wish left in him, so in his despair he cries out the repeated wish, so that a man like him will not exist
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>>23397945
Yeah, dude finally snapped from feeding the meatgrinder.

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Have you ever read the complete works of a particular author? Would you like to?
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>>23397208
God didn't write the Bible
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>>23397220
he's a co-writer, he provided a lot of the dialogue
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>>23392934
I've read the complete Harry Potter series. When I was younger.

Someday, I would like to read the whole volume of 'The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.'

Cheers!
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I've read almost everything written by GE Moore for no other reason than that I fucking hate him.
It's not JUST because of the fact that he has not contributed a single good idea to the history of thought. It's mainly because of his god-awful writing style. Take picrel, which is from his "refutation of idealism". No-one can read this without having suicidal thoughts
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>>23392934
There are several writers for whom this is much easier than others. I've certainly read every *book* Ralph Ellison ever wrote, but not all his essays. But then if you want to get picky, there are almost certainly lost published works for any given author. Some exclusive article they gave to some tiny publication as a favor to a friend and all copies are lost.
Given enough time, I'd like to read everything lots of people ever wrote, come as close as possible to understanding every person who ever lived. I don't think it's a worthwhile hope as long as I remain mortal though.

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If this is literature for the intellectually middling, then what is the literature for the intellectually stupendous?
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Brandon Sanderson: The Way of Kings
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>>23396307
Nobody can answer, because they have not read these books or any other books and cannot speak on their merits, nor their content. These books aren't bad, the content holds merit in many of these, they are just easy to read, they use highly accessible language. If that's how you wish to judge a book, read IRS tax stuff, that should be riveting literature for you.
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>>23396307
Has anyone here, like this entire /lit/, read Capital by Thomas Piketty?
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>>23396307
>what is the literature for the intellectually stupendous?

https://righthegelian.com/reading-list/
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>>23397927
/thread

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BAP mentions Jünger, Mishima and Homer a lot and he points out the importance if being in the military for coming of age. I’m looking for other works in the same vein
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>>23397717
BAP's lap drogs. Fischer King is just some guy. Don't know why he was included
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>>23397757
So mostly just twitter accounts?
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>>23395377
>BAP mentions
stopped reading there

>>23397686
askhenazis too, they just selected for lighter features sometimes. It's crazy how you'll see people saying they are "European" when in reality they're over 75% Levantine (MENA) and plot basically on top of modern Turks (who do not have any Euro ancestry)
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>>23395377
God fucking damn the Jews can be based as fuck sometimes. I don't agree with him, but BASSSSSSED.
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>>23397717
iirc they're people in his general dimes square circle of red tory jewish friends.

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Post covers of book that you have or book that you have seen
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>>23397165
Thanks for the article anon, but I think most big publisher are starting to pander towards women demographic in book industry lately, I think that's the main reason for this, maybe things like 'thumbnail' 'easy to recognize', etc are just some follow up reasons for that.
I mean, I remember that this blocky cover design trend was started with romance novel first or maybe YA, in the mid 2010s. Then it got big, maybe sales increased, women are posting their 'currently reading' next to their macbook and latte on top of cafe table in their instagram, then publisher invest more on book cover design, until the point wherethey learned about classics (in which one of them being no longer human) popularity among women and gave it some redesigned 'instagram' cover as well. Maybe that's what happened. Recently though, tik tok women just learned about dostoevsky, so maybe the next cover re design will be a dostoevsky book?
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>>23396883
Very pretty. I'd like to learn book binding so I can make extremely decadent versions of stuff I like. Could be a fun hobby
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>>23396753
I mean the books in picrel are from a very small range of "authors" and are all in the category "booktok" (i hate myself for knowing what this means). They want to appeal for the exact same demographic and are extremely shallow content-wise. All have the same "romantic" story and are basically gooning material for sexually frustrated women. They are basically fast fashion but for books.
In general, I still often find books with very nice cover designs, but the shitty ones are definitely flooding the markets.
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>I Sing the Body Electric.

>Out of the Cradle Endlessly Rocking!

>"And you Libertad of the world! You shall sit in the middle well-pois'd thousands and thousands of years, As to-day from one side the nobles of Asia come to you, As to-morrow from the other side the queen of England sends her eldest son to you."

Who is more essential than Walt Whitman?

To me, he represents the Spirit of America.

Through the hustle and bustle of mid-19th century New York City to the horrors of the Civil War to the promise of a new budding Democracy!

Indeed, his Transcendental poetry helped mold and shape America into the Great country it was destined to be!
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>>23397388
If you're into Whitman, I highly recommend reading DH Lawrence's half-critical, half-admiring essay on him: https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/60547/pg60547-images.html#XII_WHITMAN

>Surely it is especially true of American art, that it is all essentially moral. Hawthorne, Poe, Longfellow, Emerson, Melville: it is the moral issue which engages them. They all feel uneasy about the old morality. Sensuously, passionally, they all attack the old morality. But they know nothing better, mentally. Therefore they give tight mental allegiance to a morality which all their passion goes to destroy. Hence the duplicity which is the fatal flaw in them: most fatal in the most perfect American work of art, The Scarlet Letter. Tight mental allegiance given to a morality which the passional self repudiates.

>Whitman was the first to break the mental allegiance. He was the first to smash the old moral conception, that the soul of man is something "superior" and "above" the flesh. Even Emerson still maintained this tiresome "superiority" of the soul. Even Melville could not get over it. Whitman was the first heroic seer to seize the soul by the scruff of her neck and plant her down among the potsherds.

>"There!" he said to the soul. "Stay there!"

>Stay there. Stay in the flesh. Stay in the limb's and lips and in the belly. Stay in the breast and womb. Stay there. Oh Soul, where you belong.

>Stay in the dark limbs of negroes. Stay in the body of the prostitute. Stay in the sick flesh of the syphilitic. Stay in the marsh where the calamus grows. Stay there, Soul, where you belong.

>The Open Road. The great home of the Soul is the open road. Not heaven, not paradise. Not "above." Not even "within." The soul is neither "above" nor "within." It is a wayfarer down the open road.


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>>23397394
Thanks!
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>>23397388
I always think of what he wrote in an article outlining a program to improve the health of nation, that you need to get out of bed as soon as you wake up.

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Rei vs Asuka debate = Naoko vs Midori debate

Only wish the latter was as prominent as the former
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>>23395498
Women don't exist, you know this
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>>23396916
That's irrelevant. My argument was that hatsumi and nagasawa represent a narrative about relationships that is not common in literature, is it any wonder that the main characters espouse the common heartbreak to new love pipeline that is so vapid and soulless; it doesn't incite any insights, its emotional porn at best and lazy writing at worst.
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>>23395879
This and it's not even close.
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>>23395257
Ashley had it right, Scarlett for (self-denied) fucking and Melanie for wifing
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>>23395299
Opposite for me, I hardly remember midori or naoko, but Hatsumi was a very compelling character to me. Well that's not completely true, I remember Naoko fairly well too, it's just Midori that didn't leave much of an impression guess she just needs in with all the other free spirit arthoe characters I've encountered over the years.

Reiko was just silly.

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Mother died and I need to cope with a novel. Any good ones about griefing? It can be non-fiction too, but not something very scientific, please.
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>>23392756
Topical: As I Lay Dying, The Stranger
For your soul: East of Eden
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Picrel is a heavy read but it sounds like you're well-read enough to handle it just fine. Never have I read a more beautiful and piercing account of coping with loss. Wishing you well, OP.

>>23392769
>-The Time Machine did it by John Swartzwelder
It's good? Based on his Simpsons writing Swartzwelder is very talented but erratic.
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>>23392756
I share Your pain, anon. Mine died four days ago.
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>>23392756
A Grief Observed by C.S. Lewis
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My mother died within the past month as well.

I don't think there are any novels that matter in relation to this. I think there are many faux-profundities mentioned in relation to spending time with people who will die but I don't put much stock in them (though they're beneficial). The vast majority of happiness came from her being alive, healthy and nearby. I don't care about "5 things to ask them before they're dead" or regretting not doing any of that.

One thing that became apparent was how much I cared about her, still, in a concrete sense. She had mentioned some time ago that I should give her clothes away to charity if she ever died but throwing away or moving any of her stuff feels like a betrayal.

I also still feel like she's watching. I don't believe that she is, because I'm not religious, but I am constantly imagining it.

She said that I should just enjoy my life if she ever died but enjoying things while she's not around also feels like a betrayal.

My sympathy towards old people (older than my mother) has drastically reduced.

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>Under the guidance of her Christian pastors, she entertained herself, besides, with such humane achievements as sentencing a youth to have his hands cut off, his tongue torn out with pincers, and his body burned alive, because he had not kneeled down in the rain to do honour to a dirty procession of monks which passed within his view, at a distance of some fifty or sixty yards. It is likely enough that, rooted in the woods of France and Norway, there were growing trees, when that sufferer was put to death, already marked by the Woodman, Fate, to come down and be sawn into boards, to make a certain movable framework with a sack and a knife in it, terrible in history. It is likely enough that in the rough outhouses of some tillers of the heavy lands adjacent to Paris, there were sheltered from the weather that very day, rude carts, bespattered with rustic mire, snuffed about by pigs, and roosted in by poultry, which the Farmer, Death, had already set apart to be his tumbrils of the Revolution. But that Woodman and that Farmer, though they work unceasingly, work silently, and no one heard them as they went about with muffled tread: the rather, forasmuch as to entertain any suspicion that they were awake, was to be atheistical and traitorous.

This is not even the most memorable paragraph on this page. How was he able to write this well over so many books? Is he the greatest?
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>>23397870
Sidney Carton and Father Zossima are the two fictional characters I wish to be in real life.

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Writing a character that’s an incel, don’t want to stereotype and idk how to make more realistic, I need a point of wiew from one. Any recommendations? Sorry English isn’t first language
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>>23397824
Leave it to the real incels. I suggest you either write about debauchery or true love, depending on the flavor of your life.

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>nooo nooo the heckin bardarino loved the heckin jews
>shylock says jews laugh when they are tickled, as part of his plot to steal a pound of a man's flesh, therefore shakespeare was siding with him

Is there anything more cringe than Merchant of Venice revisionism?
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>>23397658
You're making the mistake of thinking the person you are talking to has actually read the entire play, instead of that one snippet from the one Shylock speech he was taught to memorise in Hebrew school.
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>>23397746
me: i'm alleyn's
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>>23397050
What's wrong with not caring about politics? There's nothing cringe about letting retards kill each other over power and control while you do your own thing.
>b-but it affects y...
It ends the moment you bomb their buildings, fuck with their systems and kill their leaders if they make it their mission to fuck with you personally. That's not really a political statement either, it's just a natural answer to being pushed to the edge.
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>>23397086
>muh nuance
How many baby dicks do they have to suck, how many subversions should they do, how many countries should they be kicked out of before you might, maybe, just maybe, start to consider there's a pattern? The whole
>jews aren't a singular mass, chud
Is such a dishonest argument. Nobody ever claims that. But if dogs shit on your front lawn day in and day out, you don't go, "I shouldn't blame all dogs!" and let your front lawn become a public toilet. You notice it's just something they do and do something about it. At the very least avknowledge it, you don't even do that
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>>23397733
it matters a great deal to the tourists on this board

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>smartest conservative intellectual
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>>23393374
What are people still mad that this guy completely trashed George Wallace?
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>>23395311
>trans conservative
what the fuck do they think they're conserving
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>>23397702
They're probably libertarian to some degree
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>>23393374
the only thing modern american conservatives are conservative about are propping up israel, a militarized war economy, and unwavering support for monopolistic capitalism. also something about punching down at everyone who isnt white & straight
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>>23393374
I’d say contemporary wise that Nick Land is the smartest conservative.

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Post your favorite quotes and aphorisms from the books you "have" read. Text from all genres can be used.
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>>23397386

Not to forget 17th-century Holland (see pic). And there’s 21st-century USA as well:


In the morning before it was quite light he walked out of the compound and down to the river. He walked out over the plank bridge on its stone piers and stood looking down at the clear cold waters of the Casas Grandes running out of the mountains to the south. He turned and looked downstream. A hundred feet away in water to her thighs stood the primadonna naked. Her hair was down and it was wet and clinging to her back and it reached to the water. He stood frozen. She turned and swung her hair before her and bent and lowered it into the river. Her breasts swung above the water. He took off his hat and stood with his heart laboring under his shirt. She raised up and gathered her hair and twisted out the water. Her skin so white. The dark hair under her belly almost an indelicacy.

She bent once more and trailed her hair in the water with a swaying motion sideways and then stood and swung it about her in a great hoop of spray and stood with her head back and her eyes closed. The sun rising over the gray ranges to the east lit the upper air. She held one hand up. She moved her body, she swept both hands before her. She bent and caught her falling hair in her arms and held it and she passed one hand over the surface of the water as if to bless it and he watched and as he watched he saw that the world which had always been before him everywhere had been veiled from his sight. She turned and he thought she might sing to the sun. She opened her eyes and saw him there on the bridge and she turned her back and walked slowly up out of the river and was lost to his view among the pale standing trunks of the cottonwoods and the sun rose and the river ran as before but nothing was the same nor did he think it ever would be.

― Cormac McCarthy, ‘The Crossing’


(Of course, you have to wonder if Cormac was thinking of Joyce when he wrote this. Things might not be as independent as they seem. As C. himself said: ‘The ugly truth is that books are made out of books.’)
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>>23394290

Well it's not, I fucking love it, retard
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>>23388236
I'm 21 and get it just fine, it really isn't that deep, and in case you haven't noticed "everything is meaningless", "billions must die" and other nihilistic memes are more popular than ever, contemplating the emptiness of our world and lack of meaning isn't an activity exclusive to elite thinkers/old men.
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>>23397734
>I'm 21 and get it just fine
The rest of your post says you do not get it. Save that image and your post and read it again in 9 years ;)
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I'm happy that I read this as a teenager.

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if Evola was aware of Kaliyuga in the 30s why did he write Ride the Tiger only 20 years later?
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You asked this question already.

He figured he could fight it, got crippled for his trouble, and learned the hard way that the only way out of the Kali Yuga is through.
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You know ideas for books can have long gestation periods right?
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>>23396884
>bread (carbs)
ok
>"cheese" (carbs)
ok
>drink (carbs)
ok
>french fries (carbs)
ok
>sauce all over everything (carbs)
ok
>meat (actual edible food for humans)
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THIS IS UNHEALTHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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https://youtu.be/cIwRQwAS_YY
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>>23396884
Insanely stupid question.

If Karl Marx was aware of capitalism in the 1840s, why didn't he write Das Kapital until the 1860s?

Do you think Gibbon sat down to start writing Decline and Fall the moment he first heard about the Roman Empire?


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