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So I was reading about the rise of Islam and discovered that Mu'awiya I, the first Umayyad Caliph, took power by killing Ali, Muhammad's son in law. The greatest Islamic empire ever was literally founded on the bones of Muhammad's family.
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>>16643822
That is explicitly what he said he would do. Denying it makes you dumb.
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>>16643555
Kill rivals for power and take it for yourself. Pretty standard behavior for most of history, not really extraordinary in any way desu.
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>>16643762
>sunnis think non-muslims have to accept their fake and gay history where their first century which was filled with civil war after civil war was just a misunderstanding
Bro your concept of history is laughable
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>>16643888
Nah it would be like Paul massacring Jesus disiples and family and declaring himself pope or whatever the equivalent was at the time
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>>16643555
>an empire was founded after someone got murdered
INSANE

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Regular reminder that Chud Anon is a brown Filipino who RPs as a white supremacist because black children stole his rice bowl.
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>>16643921
>European people colonizing land and displacing "savages" in order to build a republican government
I dunno, Anon, it actually looks pretty American to me
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>>16643931
Jews are as European as are Turks or Caucasians. Actually, they are even less so as the only Jewish group that has European ancestry are the Askenazis.

George RR Martin used the War of the Roses as scaffolding for GoT. What other historical event would make for a good fantasy parallel?
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>>16635005
me with a blond wig
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>>16635377
I prefer the modern version of the 30 years war (Syrian Civil War)
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>>16635060
agreed, tons of unique cities to draw inspiration from too. do you have any good sources in mind?
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Any writer who doesn't rip off history is leaving a lot on the table.
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>>16635005
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Why do you think third world countries are so rife with rape and misogyny?
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Conservatism holds that women are only good for fucking and aren’t real people
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>>16643115
>misogyny
That's a norm in many "enlightened" and upper skilled workplace environments.
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>>16643115
Imagine living is a shit hole like picrel, anyone would end up hating everything.

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Who are your top 10 Roman Emperors?
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>>16641193
Don't know any but I would be the best, just give me a chance
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>>16641348
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Augustus
Domitian
Trajan
Vespasian
Hadrian
Antoninus Pius
Aurelian
Claudius
Marcus Aurelius and Lucius Verus
Tiberius
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>>16641193
Hadrian
Augustus
Anastasius I
Constantine V
Basil II
Diocletian
John II
Domitian
Maurice
Marcus Aurelius
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>>16641193
Charlemagne
Augustus
Otto I the Great
Barbarossa
Louis the Pious
Claudius
Hadrian
Henry IV
Marcus Aurelius
Frederick II

Is this historically accurate?
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>>16643793
UK salaries are legitimately shit though. UK is probably better if your only aspiration in life is to live on the dole and shoot smack, but if you want to be a working professional like a nurse, engineer, or doctor, you're probably still better off in Mississippi. See pic related. That is a laughable wage for a strenuous career that requires a bachelor's degree.
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>>16643853
Now compare to Mississippi
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>>16643858
You might say, well of course healthcare is lower paid in the NHS than private. Okay, how about a comparison for Mechanical Engineering...
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>>16643862
Now here's Mississippi. This holds true for pretty much any kind of professional field requiring a degree or skills. People who wait tables and low IQ layabouts are better off in the UK though, for sure, which brings the average closer.
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>>16643869
Professionals are a minority of the population in both places, even in the US as a whole bachelor's degree holders are barely over 1/3rd (and in both Mississippi and Britain they're below that), and that's people with any degree not people who found careers in related fields.
You're caught in a well-off bubble and failing to pick up the experience of the average person.

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How did Nazi Germany react to the Italians promoting racemixing with Ethiopia?
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>>16643177
>anti-italian fag is ESL
Shocker
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>>16642272
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>>16642210
Are you fucking retarded? Italy adopted the Nuremburg race laws. Cartoons are not real life.
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>>16642354
>homo
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>>16643934

When did they do that anon?
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>>16642354
Have sex, incel

Would you rather be an American grunt in the worst combat the US went through in Europe in WW2 like the Hurtgen Forest, Anzio or Bastogne, or in the worst parts of the Pacific like Tarawa or Okinawa?

>Europe
>Pros: German troops are Europeans and are sometimes able to behave in a half-civilized manner (actually made an effort to not shoot at medics, etc) and did not immediately do horrific things to any American they captured, also they would surrender in large numbers when they couldn't do much more
>get to drown in wine, cheek kisses, croissants and easy pussy after being in the shit from crowds of grateful qt French/Belgian/Dutch etc women

>Cons: overall casualties were way higher in Europe due to the Germans actually having a proper industrial base (Japan had roughly the same industrial output as Mussolini's Italy; i.e. primitive by white standards)
>Germans had all sorts of dangerous GI-mulching gear like 88s, half-tracks, STuGs, etc
>Germans are arguably more skilled soldiers in the conventional sense than the clumsy yet fanatical japs
>Pacific
>Pros: Jap army mostly has very little actual heavy gear; after Guadalcanal they did all their fighting with small arms and the occasional old 1900s field gun
>Most of them will also starve to death or die of disease before being able to shoot at you
>Japanese occupation duty after the war is filled with cheap booze and easy pussy from desperate jap women whose husbands you killed

>Cons

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>>16642929
My grandpa shot a nip kid while on body recovery detail cause he wouldnt surrender. It really fucked him up and he talked about it a lot when he was with his war buddies
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>>16640654
Europe for sure. American POWs captured by Germans were usually treated somewhat humanely. By contrast, the Japanese tortured and killed American POWs all the time. Europe also has a much more hospitable climate than most Pacific islands. I'd rather be at Bastogne than Guadalcanal.
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>>16640654
>Freeze your balls off while getting shelled nonstop on Europe but you get white pussy of all kinds of foreign flavors
Or
>Get all kinds of jungle diseases while sweating your balls off and getting death marched by nips and no pussy for years
Tough decision, but I'll have to go with French pussy for this one.
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>>16640654
Pacific front, because I'm actually genuinely literally German-American (actually speak German, know my cousins and aunts there, have passport, studied in Bamberg, etc.) and I have moral qualms with shooting my potential literal cousin.
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>>16641452
Okinawa is remembered as being especially awful because we (as in us *and* the Japanese) literally killed like 40% of the islands civilian population and US soldiers/marines were literally witnessing this bloodbath firsthand within a miniscule confined surface area of this tiny archipelago.
Okinawa was concentrated suffering on a scale your average Joe didn't expect to ever come across.

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South brazilian guy here with germanic (bohemian) ancestry.
Wow.
Is it possible I have phoenician or cathaginian ancestry?
What exactly you guys look at when you see these informations? I'm good at history and geography, but I'd like to see other people's opinion on that.

For me it is obvious the mediterranean, once I have portuguese descent. Also some african and native american as I live in the americas. But the other informations are kinda blurry to me. Is that arab blood from "mozarabic" or "moriscos" in the iberian peninsula?
I may have some turkish or levantine blood in it, but not sure how to locate it on a map.
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>>16642192
Where you from.
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>>16640056
I miss this nigga so much
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>>16642114
surprisingly a lot of CHG.
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>>16642137
>>16642152
All Europeans have West Asia/caucasus, often northern Europeans have more of this component than meds.
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>>16639760
Cope. He’s a brown mutt like you.

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Greeks are Mongols, not white. This has been observed for centuries and true for Millennia.

Jakob Philipp Fallmerayer, a German scientist, visited Greece and did not see any white person. So he wrote that Greeks are no longer Aryans, but Mongols due to racemixing with Slavs and Turks. During the World War II, Italians used Fallmerayer's works to justify their invasion of Greece.

Arthur de Gobineau, a French scientist, visited Greece and did not see any white person as well. So he wrote that Greeks lost their Aryanness by racemixing with Mongols.

White men erased Mongols from history. Plato, Aristotle, Alexander, Alkibiades, Constantinus, Cleopatra and Basil II were all Mongols, not white. According to Anders Retzius, a Swedish scientist, original proto-Europeans were Mongols but Aryans replaced Mongols in Europe around 5000 yrs ago and pushed them into the northernmost reaches of Europe where no white man would bother. White men have been systemically using racism and imperialism to erase Mongols and Mongolian achievements from European history.
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>>16643902
Funny to think that if Greeks were anything but Europeans, they would be held as the shining beacon of brown,black or yellow progress instead of being seen as the failure they currently are
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>>16643902
OP is out of his fucking mind.

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why didn't they fight back against british occupation like the irish did?
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Its mad how successful the Scottish nationalist movement has been at rebranding Scotland from the reality: a willing and if anything proportionally overrepresented partner in empire, to a fantasy of being a poor oppressed victim of English colonialism.
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>>16643281
Oh, absolutely, and if they hadn't enclosed on Catholic land nor unfairly preferenced the Protestants in political and economic life it would never have become as bloody. At best it would be like the Germans in trans-Danubia or the Russian Mennonites and other Germans: islands of free Protestant settlements in a sea of Catholicism, without the tension that comes of manoralism. The Germans in Haiti were considered honorary black because they didn't bother anybody.
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>>16643281
I think there would be conflicts still, but they'd be very different from what we see today and would probably be far more mild and easy to "bury the hatchet" so to speak.
I think even in a Protestant Ireland scenario you'd eventually get some butting heads with Westminster due to Ireland's own ruling class possibily seeking out greater autonomy from a centralized London government (much like the Canadians, Aussies and Kiwis all did) and Ireland itself would still be Ireland, i.e. possessing their own identity and national consciousness, which is a product of the UK itself never really putting any effort into really solidifying BRITISH identity as opposed to just chilling with Englishmen, Scots, etc. in a country which is conceptualized as a "union of peoples" rather than a new singular entity.
We must remember that not everything has to be Catholic vs Protestant or Celtic vs Germanic even. For example, the Norwegians are Nordic and Lutheran just like Sweden and yet Norway fucking hated Sweden and was constantly bitching for independence for 100 years (and Sweden wasn't even oppressive).
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>>16643486

Never ask a man his salary, a woman her age, or a Scottish nationalist what all those names on the Scottish regimental banners mean.
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>>16643486
It's the issue with projecting present conditions onto the past.
It's probably true that a total majority of Scots in 1707 did *not* want Union and that it was forced through by the rich elite.
But at the same time, the type of SNP voter who exists today is the exact demographic who would have supported the union in 1707 (the urban bourgeoise middle class/university educated types). Pro-British unionists were the progressive hippy dippy College Kids of their times, the pro-Scottish independence crowd in 1745 were literal Hillbilly country bumpkins who were religious and hated change.
It's why modern Scottish civic nationalism can't really bank on Jacobitism as a legacy to work off of, the Jacobites were a bunch of diehard monarchists not a bunch of pro-EU urban young kids.

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>who smelt it dealt it
whats your retort?
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I take out my samurai sword and slice off their head.. heh
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>>16643812
He who did the rhyme, did the crime.
gg ez
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>>16643859
>He who refuted it tooted it.
checkmate
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>>16643897
He who claims refutation, was the cause of creation.
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>>16643913
He who keeps making a comeback, made it leak out his crack.

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Which city would be the best to bulldoze and replace with Hilbersheimer or le Corbusier's designs?
I think Washington, D.C. is a good one. It started as a planned city, has all of its few important landmarks already demarcated, and the majority of the city is occupied by impotent liberals.
Nothing of value would be lost, and something awesome would be gained.
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>>16643107
Let's do all liberal cities and build walls around them without gates.
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>>16643111
These aren't just 'affordable' 'commie blocks,' that's a compromise made for efficiency's sake, to be built and made functional in as little time as possible.
The Ville Radieuse is not negotiable or pragmatic, it is a monstrosity, a monumental symbol to the raw power of a society which can create a perfect new landscape out of the sheer force of its will.
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>>16643112
It really doesn't even look that bad
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>>16643111
Rome.
>>16643113
I may have to rethink him.
>>16643556
I feel like the thing in the background is attacking the thing in the foreground. Attempting to devour it, even.
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>>16643720
>I feel like the thing in the background is attacking the thing in the foreground. Attempting to devour it, even.
Really? That's interesting. I'm guessing by the rest of your post that you don't like the style. I do, and I'd say I feel like the background towers are protecting the old Paris in the foreground. But now that I think about it I see the towers as more primordial than just protectors, like they could just as easily destroy you- and they should be respected for that.

>Never ordered military forces under his command to indiscriminately kill Africans
>Never ordered Africans to have their hands, feet, or noses chopped off as punishment for not meeting work quotas
>Never withheld food, water or medical aid to Africans as a form of collective punishment
>Never enslaved Africans (Belgium had never participated in the slave trade and in fact, ended the Arab slave trade in the Congo immediately after taking over)
If anyone in history deserves an apology, its King Leopold II. One (1) shitty book came out in the 90s that made all sorts of bizarre claims, was called out for being grossly inaccurate by actual historians, and now hes some great mass murderer like Hitler or Stalin in the minds of clueless reddit normies.
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>>16641781
Who gives a fuck? All monarchs deserve to die anyway simply for being monarchs.
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>>16643683
The government mandates that you suck cock for free at your local bar. If you say no you will either be imprisoned, fined+made to suck cock in prison or shot dead for refusing to suck cock for free. Would you call this slavery or just a cheek bit of coercion ?
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>>16643246
I never said they weren't impacted retard. Pygmies were still persecuted because they couldn't contribute to the mining+plantation concessions.
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>>16643166
>every Belgian owned town went through a massive baby boom.
The "boom' was occurring before the Belgians though. You do know they git access to new world crops ages ago, that and population drops and pop bumps can occur at the same time. That's how the Chinese had a population increase even during the great famine.
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>>16643901
No they didnt, prove that new world crops were being cultivated in massive agricultural projects. Congolese agriculture was limited to inefficient and small scale operations. There's zero proof they were having a population boom before Euros arrived and organized SSA. And China was lightyears ahead of the Congo, shit comparison

Would it be correct to say that Iberians are North Italians but with South Italian pigmentation? Ricciardo is Sicilian fyi.
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>>16643475
>I'm out of this madhouse
you finally got to know Italians and their dementia, they have always been known for lies and literal autism
this is because of its higher WHG levels
>>16643478
This
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>>16643522
only white people get autism
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>>16642684
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>>16642753
lmao, seething
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>>16643268
but hallstatt was med
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Hallstat were tight and wet med vaginas conquered by germanic and slavic bvlls that replaced them


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