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Geocaching is what started making me go /out/side. Does anyone else still do it? I bring a mountain bike and head to trails.
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>>2724238
>Does anyone else still do it?
stopped when smart phones became a thing
the whole point of a geocache was printing off the 3 or 4 lines of cryptic text and going innawoods with that piece of paper and solving the puzzle
now every single one has a Google Map pin, GPS co-ordinates, multiple Youtube tutorials and 15 zoomers TikTok Twerking in front of it with their phones out.
not to mention last i checked Geocache website now requires a monthly subscription
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>>2732568
ur old
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>complaining about 40-somethings on a website mostly populated by 30-40 somethings
k lol
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>>2724238
no one evern post pics of even just dog poops in a geocatch
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>>2732814
Only on out because gen a doesn't go outside

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Just got an REI membership and all I want to do now is consooooom
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>>2730339
To be fair, it's a lifetime membership. You'll make back your $30 in savings eventually.
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>>2730211
>>2728160
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>>2730520
and I'm guaranteed to find those savings somewhere else
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>>2730535
not always plus you always get the biggest savings on rei-branded items
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>>2730211
I'm just here to seethe at this

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For me:

>Tent: MSR Hubba Hubba 2
>Bag: Gregory Baltoro 65
>Sleeping bag: Marmot Sawtooth 15
>Sleeping pad: Zlite
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>>2732656
Yea quilt would be shit without a insulated pad, I wouldn't use it then. But the quilt is much more like blankets at home in bed and offer more flexibility because you can partially cover yourself if it's warmer.

500 fill power is ass for that price. You could probably get something made in the us with 750-800 for that price. The thing I don't like about sleeping bags is constriction. I side sleep so quilt all day. I have sleeping bags too, just prefer the quilt.

I don't remember the exact formula but it should be online somewhere. The know area of a quilt (length * width) can be used to estimate the fill power by measuring the thickness when fully lofted and vice versa. So use that to determine if you're actually getting what you're paying for
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>>2721180
They're nice.
I had helinox cot loaner from a friend and it was comfy, very light too, no need to worry about sharp rocks or anything else for that matter to poke you in the back or puncture your mat.
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>>2729499
Checked and same, tent is the only way I can sleep without worrying some little mega-aids cunt biting me.
Also last time I used a hammock there was a frog in my boot.
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>>2732558
>Increase surface area so you have more area to lose heat
>Heavier for the same insulation because the surface area that needs to be insulated is greater
>Going to have more cold spots because it's a more complicated shape
>Less volume inside the bag means you don't start warming up stale air
A meme unless you want to do warm-up exercises repeatedly to maintain warmth.
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Tent: Quarterdome 1
Pack: Mariposa 60
Water: FirstNeed
Quilt: EE Revelation 10F plus overfilled
Pads: Nemo Switchback and Tensor
Shoes: Hoka SG5
Poles: Leki carbon
Stove: MSR Pocket Rocket

Comfy as hell three seasons.

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hey /out/
so,me and my friends are about to have our finals so we thought it would be a great idea to do something stupid before going back to studying 24/7

we wanted to do a great urbex so if some of you guys know some great urbex spots/scary places to go explore in brussels and it’s periphery it’d be great!

im ready to trade infos about other places we found in exchange of whatever urbex/place you have!
thanks
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>>2732447
As far as Brussels unfortunately I can't help you because I live in Wisconsin... but do post photos please. I like scary places.
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>>2732447
Break into the NAVO HQ. I heard it's pretty cool.

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pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/Mvfh8b87

New USDA zone map has been released: https://planthardiness.ars.usda.gov/

Koppen Climate Map: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/K%C3%B6ppen_World_Map_High_Resolution.png

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Spring is in full swing! Stagger your bush bean plantings to get continuous harvests.
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>>2733354
The difference in price is massive, I paid equivalent of 70$ for 3 cubic meters of good quality deciduous woodchips from a local landscaping guy, meanwhile 50 liter (0.05 cubic meter) of bagged wood chips sells for 6$ in nearby large gardening store.

>>2733358
Mine has 5 to 50 Celsius setting range, took me a while to find, very few can go below 10 Celsius in normal mode.
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>>2733354
Paying for compost? I get it for free from the local getting spot. I can fit a little over a cubic yard in my Tacoma each trip riding out on my bump stops, done well over 200 cubic yards
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>>2733401
I can get free manure from a place about 50 miles away, but I can't get free compost. I make my own, but it's never enough.
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>>2733422
50 miles, that's rough, I get as much compost as I can take a few miles down the road, had to go extra thick where the septic system was replaced because there was no top soil.
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>>2733403
>>2733403
>>2733403
new bread

So /out/... I'm from out west and wanted to explore the eastlands. I went down the Pennsylvania rabbit hole and discovered the entire northern part of Pennsylvania is known as the "PA WILDS" and is more sparsely populated than Mongolia. I'm now dying to check it out. What can I expect if I try to wild hike through the whole region. Any concerns beyond getting lost and dying? Why is this region so fucking mysterious?
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>>2732829
No
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>>2732829
only on the west coast is that allowed, sorry :^)
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>>2732829
Outside of the designated public ranges?
Nope

>p.s. the ranges have a "3 rounds in magazine maximum" rule because they were built for hunters, not tacticool larpers
>and yes, you will be ticketed if they catc you with more than 3 rounds
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>>2732880
Huh what about state game lands?
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>>2732829
If it's for hunting, yes. Just bring a slingshot if you want to plink at cans.

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>>2729860
it was the jewish logger beavers.
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lovingit.
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>humans love oxygen
>let's feed them 100% oxygen
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>>2732752
>100% oxygen
theonly,,wayto stay alive at 4PSI,,astronauts knowthis.,
,had collapsed lunglastyear,,,that PURE PURE O2 wasaving.,
,,,drunkard welders huffff like mad on mondays.,
,,M Jackson overpresure chamber?,,,i dont wanto APOLLO-1!
,how low doyou think co2 should be?,,orhigher!
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>>2732752
>what is a hospital oxygen chamber
Are you retarded or something?

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Old one is about to 404 >>2639545

Last minute discussions and hopefully some sweet pics after the fact will go here. Fair warning to DFW area bros, there's some weather foretasted for the 8th so plan accordingly.
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>>2730527
This is an american board you goddamn beaner
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>>2730469
SHIIIIIIIET
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>>2730550
picos de europa is a pretty huge area with no forest, only grass and exposed limestone specially the peaks i have in mind. if the forecast predicts clouds i will change plans of course but i hope not. and since the peaks are at very high elevation there's usually not fog up there, if anything there will be a sea of fog below me which is usually awesome, and it must be even more so during an eclipse
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>>2730469
Last night totally made up for us getting screwed out of last month's eclipse. The skies lit up in green and pink colors around 10 pm, danced like crazy around 2 am, and were visible for most of the night. It was easily the best I've seen in this region and one of the most memorable nights of my life!
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>>2717936
Based.

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It's been almost a year since the last climbing thread on /out/ died. The thread on /xs/ is overwhelmingly focused on gym climbing, so I'm making this attempt to revive the general. Help out by sharing trip reports, photos, advice, etc.

A place to talk about outdoor climbing in any aspect (trad, sport, bouldering, aid, alpine, etc).

Rock Climbing is a dangerous sport that can cause loss of life, limb, eyesight, or sanity.

Off-belay:
https://archived.moe/out/thread/2610900
https://archived.moe/out/thread/2537031
https://archived.moe/out/thread/2495558

/xs/ thread:
>>>/xs/196297

Adam Ondra sends world's hardest trad route Bon Voyage: https://youtu.be/ji4At78H5Ys
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>>2728674
I tried half ropes on a meandering slab and it doubled the rope drag. I'm guessing that's why American trad is mostly on singles, because we have the slabs.
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>>2731765
Ah yeah I've done that one. I'm no hardman but it's a pretty easy solo when it's dry; not even 5.5.

I've never been to Waikiki with a rope but I've always wanted to. That anchor looks simultaneously bomber and sketch as fuck.
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Recently recleaned this near-forgotten problem to project. Super-nice rock, over the bulge with no real holds, just friction.
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Fuck yeah, climbing general, it's been too long.

So far this season at the Gunks has been great. Been pushing grades way beyond what I'd hoped for and having a ton of fun cruising up routes that were a challenge just a couple years ago.
Looking forward to ticking off all the classic 5.8-5.9's and testing myself on the 10's where it really starts to get interesting.
Any NE anons want to get after it hit me up.
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>>2732859
That's awesome man. Post some pictures! I've found that I'm actually climbing weaker than I was a couple of years ago. Not a huge surprise since life has been kicking my ass recently, but still disappointing. I'm gonna have to get back on the hangboard.

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Anyone got any experience with bivvy bags? I'm looking into buying one on the cheaper end. There's tyvek ultralight bags, there's heavier ones, weight isn't a huge concern for me personally but I like light stuff if it's reasonably durable. Rain and mosquitoes are my primary concerns, I'd like a face cover of some kind
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>>2729024
In NZ we carry them in case we’re caught out unexpectedly. They’re uncomfortable af, but better than a night in the rain or snow.
99% of the time it’s a night in a back country hut with a fire. Rare to see anyone except on the most popular walks.
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>>2726610
the only thing a bivy bag is good for is sparing some poor EMS worker the trouble of stuffing your bloated carcass into a body bag because it's already inside one
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>>2731880
This, bivvys are very dangerous. My uncle used one in the rain and he didn't know that waterproof meant not waterproof; he drowned
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>>2726610
US MILITARY BIVVYS
"SLEEPING SYSTEM"
OMG. i dont camp regularly now but me and an old friend scored under 50$ bivvy sacks easily.
as we tested them out, we realized they were OP as FUCKK - goretex, camo, 0 condensation, rough, easy to stuff in pack. rain tested and completely viable. I took it far and camped on the california coast with them without any sleeping bag - i just had an emergency blanket and a pad - i got SO DAMN COLD but it was survivable. also that night there were dozens of mice that bit at the bag and the open area at the top. i forget if i needed it to be open in order to breathe better or w/e. i cant remember, sorry. but yeah, in full rain you can take these out and hop in with your bag and pad and not be worried in teh slightest.
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>>2732840
Woodland MSS bivy is peak aesthetics

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Homestead General /hsg/
> Biochar Edition
> Thread #07

Talk gardening, farming, livestock, beekeeping, building, electricity and plumbing, earthworks, waterworks, permaculture, raising children, market gardening, selling produce, barter, home economics, composting, mulching, pest control, diet, health.
Anything relevant to living on site, making a home out of the land.

Old Thread: >>2676468
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What do you guys think of all the small/local farms and home gardens that are being shut down in the US and Europe?
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>>2731925
if they dont comply with regulations, then they get closed. If they comply with regulations it gets expensive. But the big companys are somehow able to survive, arnt they?
So in total, they need to step up their game if they wanna keep their farm, some middle aged farming techniques with old ass machines doesnt work today.
Same as jobs are being laid off because people dont wanna educate themself.
>dont educate yourself somewhere else.
Its easy being lazy and reap the same rewards as someone who does R&D.
Our whole land is contaminated with nitrate, it stinks everywhere, its bad for the soil in the long term as the bad parts of shit go deeper into our water thus why water treatment facilitys need to up their cleaning capacitys. Its like to clean up after yourself.
The planet is not yours, you cant do whatever you want, you can on a small scale as a hobby, but as soon you get money, there will be people watching.

Anyway, why are the small/local farms are being shut down from your point of view?
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>>2732096
>Anyway, why are the small/local farms are being shut down from your point of view?
Greed, of course. Possibly Agenda 21/30 conspiracy where they intend to prevent everyone from growing their own food so a large portion of the population dies of starvation while the rest is forced to eat bugs.

Your post is confusing, btw. You list these things big corpos do but get away with, then blame small farmers and hobby gardeners.
Organic small farmers (such as the Amish and others) don't use the synthetic fertilizers contaminating everything; they don't need to. Neither are they trying to cheat the system someway; people are simply willing to pay more for the health and quality of their products. Yet they are the ones getting targeted and forced to sell their land for cheap.
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>>2732096
>$1 shopping credit has been deposited to your monsanto-fanclub membership card
Small farms still feed more than half of the world population with much less land, industrial inputs and funding. They also keep the genetic diversity of our crops and domestic animals alive and are generally less harmful to soil, water and natural ecosystems.
Small farms have just been taken out to remove competition for agrochemical cooperations. All regulations and laws are written by their lobbyists. They are trying to even make exchanging your own seeds illegal ffs. You already need a loicense to sell seeds and it needs to be from registered variants. Supporting this is suicide on a civilization level.
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>>2724900
Weed bad

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how hardcore are you?
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>>2732069
>biodiversity
Careful with that word, you'll summon that insufferable Arizona fag
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>>2721300
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>>2721260
fake and gay
loggers will literally just cut the tree down with you in it and if you die its your own fault for trespassing
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>>2721283
she allegedly spent 2 years in the fucking tree. these are valid questions.
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>>2721315
She had approximately 24 periods up there.

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Antlers aren't bones, technically.
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I collect bones and put them in my compost.
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>>2732744
Did you not see the Fibula and other assorted bones?
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didnt know people actually kept bones, found this poor guy and took some pics, didnt even want to touch it desu
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>>2732792
Yea but the antler should be in the antler room, not the bone room.

Why would you want other people to see you before you see them? That would make me very uncomfortable, like sitting at the very first table in the break room with your back to entrance. I don't own a single piece of clothing or gear that is any color except Earth brown, olive drab green, and stone grey. The whole point of going out in the woods is escaping humanity and becoming invisible and being left the fuck alone.
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>>2710223
Bright colors are for women. Refer to your own pic.
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>>2718935
Fuck yes I loved how I could just go for a wander anywhere and find a huge comfy mossy covered rock to sink into when I lived in BC. So soft.
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Jesus Christ is the Son of GOD who came to earth and died for the world, so that may have eternal life. Three days later GOD rose Jesus Christ from the dead. He promised that whosever believes in Him, He promised them eternal, when the ask Him for it.
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>>2729637
>If we hear someone set off in camo do we even send a helicopter at all?
>We're also suspicious of people in camo because they could be trying to ambush other hikers.
Jfc you're fucking useless aren't you.
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>>2710230
thats the whole fucking point retard
its so if there's an emergency or you injure yourself you're easy to find.
fuck man /out/ has fucking falling since all the newfags invaded in 2020

/out/ told me my potato patch sucks, you said it needed more compost. out btfo
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I still say you need more compost.
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>>2732434
been hilled twice, i planted them in furrows
>>2732446
they are planted in 50% oak leaves faggot
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>>2732453
I don't think you're supposed to stop hilling them but what do I know.
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>>2732459
they are kennebec potatoes and a Norwegian told me it was pointless to hill them anyway
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Last years (i think) at a trailer in florida. The roaches made fine fertilizer


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