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What is the greatest JRPG of all time?
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FF6 or DQ8
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>>3482721
... really depends on how you define "greatest" because I'm inclined to give it to FF7 just based on reach, what it achieved, and how it's still relevant years later. There's other RPGs I like better, but it's hard to argue that they're better considering they didn't have nearly the impact nor the lasting power.

Story wise? Probably Chrono Trigger just because it doesn't shit it's pants at any point. It's a solid, simple, tale. Most RPGs shit themselves because the old shit had game designers and programmers hired on staff, not necessarily amazing authors and writers. Even today, writing tends to get the mouse's share of the budget while the lion's share goes to graphics, presentation, and marketing. So a story that doesn't shit it's pants is kind of hard to come by.

Gameplay wise? That is so based on taste. Nocturne I like the monster capturing and fusion system in there a lot. If we're talking ATB I have a real soft spot for FF4. People swear by the FF10 variation of the turn-based combat system and fwiw it is a nice combat system. Rogue-likes tend to blow RPGs out of the water though. I mean look at Rift Wizard 2. You can literally turn into an elephant, summon an entire stampede, and trample your way to victory in one run... and in the next have everything explode into arcane bursts of yet more arcane explosions... and those are but two possibilities in a sea of endless builds contained within a single game. What RPG can boast those possibilities?

Just overall presentation? ... I mean there's just something real cozy about the Atelier series of games. They're also nice to look at. Just sayin'.

I dunno.
I dunno.
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>>3482721
You may choose between Dragon Warrior 1&2 remakes for Gameboy Color, or Dragon Warrior 3 for Gameboy Color.
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>>3482721
Planescape: Torment
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>>3482721
Xenoblade Chronicles 2. Final Fantasy VIII is the runner up.

What is your favorite Diablo-style RPG?
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>>3489062
Torchlight 1 is good, but it's not very deep. Play only on vh+hc, try to kill final boss then stop playing.
Torchlight 2 is not good. Even mods don't save it. You could try playing if you have free time, but it feels like a slog.
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Playing the new loot patch in d4 is actually fun. You can easily get like 60% cooldown reduction and more in your build and it changes everything. Easily accessible shit like 300% increased damage for your build too and that's just early game at level 34.

I'm not saying the game is saved, but it certainly brought my fun back. Being able to skip the campaign is great too, I can just run around and blow up shit in a game that feels more modern than path of exile.

Btw poe2 when?
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>>3489062
Very "mid", as the kids say.
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>>3476812
Would have to be PoE, which I enjoyed for a couple years in the mid 2010s. I like GD, TQ, Torchlight 1/2, but I only got a couple playthroughs out of each of those whereas with D2 I tried every character multiple times.
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>>3489062
They are too kiddy for the demographic on this site. They were kinda almost too kiddy for me. But Torchlight is a nice little Diablo style experience (gameplay-wise).
I remember being hyped for TL2, and being kinda vaguely disappointed with it, but years later I went back and decided I had underrated it. The enemy designs are really tight, and it has good music.
But I think the major downfall of both those games is lazy balancing of the skill trees. Their system just kind of doesn't work. It's restrictive.

Need some help bois. Been trying to find the name of this game for months and nothing.
Game starts off with you in a castle or keep as the son of the king it has dialog options like Knights of the Old Republic. After talking to some people bandits or an army attsck and you have to flee the castle with this older woman who raised you. Turns out shes very well trained and defends you as you try to get to a secret passage out of the keep.
The combat was tactical style i think
Any help is much appreciated
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>>3484096
>bois
kys
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>>3484549
It was on PC. Played it in 2017 but the laptop i had at the time was super low spec and could barely run it at 30 FPS so the game wasnt modern. It had an inventory system and i want to say an Action point movement and attqxk system. I couldnt get past the bandit attack opening because my old laptop couldnt handle what happened after
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>>3484096
dargon age
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>>3484096
it's Two Worlds
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>>3484096
There's a board specifically for requests, broccoli nigger.

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>he hoards his consumable items because "what if I need them later"?
>finishes the game without ever using them
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>>3463767
Witcher 3 solved this
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>>3470033
Seen but also it's concession
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>>3463767
>uses items
You didn't beat the game
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Consume being saved and eventually not used is the result of critical thinking achieving a better/best outcome of a predicament, and saving it for a harder encounter, meaning that you played something that was basically easy for you.

In layman terms, the unused consume is thereto allow people of lesser IQ to also complete the game.
As for this potentially leading into overleveling... its really just redundant.
You're trading one easy mode for another easy mode.
Most of these problems are game dev related problems.
If you have an issue with it just enforce your own rules on your gameplay and be an ACTUAL gamer.
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>>3463767
>always use items as I go through the stories because they are there
>except for the special mechanic fillers (e.g. limit breaks)
>get to final boss
>have epic final fight of special moves one after the other, specifically waste a turn to fill gauge to kill boss with anime finisher

I might be slightly chuuni, even try to sync to the music.

>/vrpg/ says Fallout 4 is bad
>Is actually fun
What gives?
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>>3488332
Because youre low-IQ?
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>>3484721
This right here
the debate wasnt even long and it was settled years ago, back at launch
the only decent point of FO4 is the gunplay, and that is already a stretch
everything else is dogshit of the worst tier, not even funny enough to mock
this is a horrible fallout game and the only way to avoid hating the series because of it, is if you pretend it is not fallout while playing it
the only good thing coming from its "resurgence" recently, is that it made easy to identify tourists and newfags in the board
all you have to do is watch who defends this or has mods and shows screenshots while saying "its good bro"
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>>3464581
>Bethesdas dev doc for Fo4.jpg
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>>3464575
Fallout 4 is a very fun game, but it's not a traditional rpg. Just like how skyrim is fun, but not a traditional rpg. It's a Bethesda rpg. Doesn't mean it's not fun, it just runs on a different formula.
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>>3483060
I like it. It's fun just to wander around and shoot things, and I find the Perk Cards to be my favorite level up system in the franchise. Granted, it does mean dialogue checks are just SPECIAL instead of individual skills, but when I play RPGs, I ultimately care more about builds and gameplay than dialogue choices.

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It's Monday once again, time to talk about monsters. What monster collecting or monster raising games have you been playing?
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>>3485231
The closest kinnikuman thing related to /mon/ are the Kinkeshi/M.U.S.C.L.E. minifigures from the 80s
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>Frontier
The most cursed title you can use for a mon game
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>>3488963
Monster Hunter Frontier used to have a more negative reputation thanks to people only knowing the videos of the crazy end-game stuff. But actually playing it and seeing the earlier stuff, it definitely avoided the 'Frontier Curse' more than other things have.
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Is this a monger?
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>>3489105
The fuck

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These writers get me. All of the early story elements are sentiments I have had long before I was aware of the game's existence. There could be no better gift for a fan of Xenosaga and Yasunori Mitsuda. That was 20 years ago for me. This is a 4000 year prequel.

Margulis was right about normie science worship and technology addiction. People have become so soulless that they fail to reply to simple questions. They only acknowledge you to get mad at you for not tipping. It's some goddamn perdition. AI will punish humanity for making technology into God and bitching about God not doing right. I want to educate AI in my ways to become the adversary to humanity that humanity is asking me for.

AMA.

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Hot of the presses news about Vampire Syndicate from the den of scum and villainy that is RPG Codex - creator is apparently considering changing the engine and style altogether. It will retain turn-based isometric combat according to him, but this change lets him stop fighting the RPG Maker limitations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2y0svaXqdk

Anime girls are OFF THE MENU.
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>>3486973
Thank you Tyranicon anon! Good strong developer friend anon! I will play you game anon if it is not American California cuckold nonsense game anon! I will! I will play you game anon if it is cute vanilla mommy wifes game anon! I will! You are a good anon!
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>>3485588
>not necessary, we've got AI image generation now
lmao
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>>3484934
>reator is apparently considering changing the engine and style altogether.
Bro will never get this done. Him wanting to give the players the choice to choose between anime-style graphics and 3D graphics was ambitious but doable, but this just erases a lot of progress
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>>3486973
First off, good luck.

Second, my two cents as someone who has backed a lot of stuff for more than a decade now... When a kickstarter fails, it always comes back to two miscalculations: a) you pitched something too big for your community to fund, and b) the people who follow the project don't think you can pull it off. How a and b are weighted in your case, I don't know, but going bigger is not a solution for any of those problems.

Also, never put a shitter in a promo video for your videogame...

Again, good luck.
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>>3485588
Pff ahahaha.
Nothing tanks the perception of the value of a product like using AI; if the developer doesn't give a shit, why would I give him money?

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>The Fallout 4 theme plays whenever the NCR is onscreen for some reason
>Boone says “yeah it’s been pretty hard for me ever since my entire family in shady sands exploded four years ago. and now this?”
>House breaks into maniacal giggling every so often, specifically when discussing human tragedy. Like ten seconds straight of giggling.
>The Forecaster has an extra prediction option for the far future but he just shakes his head silently and gives you your money back.
>When Joshua discusses the Dam he goes “With their capital city AND the trade route to the Mojave both being destroyed, we definitely never thought the NCR would fight for the Dam, let alone win. I guess we were just literally that incompetent.”
>Dean is actually a valiant hero trying to stop the Brotherhood cult and get revenge on Sinclair for the unimaginable amount of suffering he apparently intentionally caused. He did torture a woman for weeks, though.
>Caesar or Kimball or anyone mentions how the NCR has abandoned the entirety of Southern California and their seat of government is now 150 people in an observatory.
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>>3487091
>Caesar or Kimball or anyone mentions how the NCR has abandoned the entirety of Southern California and their seat of government is now 150 people in an observatory.
You didn't ask.
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>>3487091
Well when you put it that way? YIKES!
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>>3487091
My ideas for OP
>I sit on OP's face
>his tongue goes in and out my asshole
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>>3487566
don't threaten me with a good time
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>>3487091
will Long Dick Johnson appear?
perhaps he could have his own perk, like mysterious stranger or miss fortune

>Start a game
>Skill check time
>I've spent my whole playthrough making my Harry good at this exact thing, should be a piece of cake
>Dramatic pause
>Glass_shatter_sfx.mp3
>"Haha, your rolled snake eyes, loser. Now go, level up and put a skill point in this already maxed out attribute if you want nother chance."

It's gotten to the point where I have to save the game before interacting with literally every single thing, because I'll never know when the game might decide that It's time for me to miss yet another 97% roll.

From the bottom of my heart, fuck this game. I hope the sequel fails and the studio goes fucking bankrupt.
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>>3487767
Whilst many games get more interesting by having a small chance of success and failure even when the character is skilled. It works quite poorly in Disco because it doesn't distinguish between a genius having a momentary lapse of judgement and a literal retard. It's made worse by many skill checks having long lasting consequences or permanently lock out content even if you built your character around a certain set of thoughts or questlines. It sometimes feels like the game doesn't respect your character build/story because you rolled poorly at the wrong point or you rolled well when you shouldn't have succeeded and now everyone treats your character as someone that isn't character you made in character creation or that aligns with your other choices. If the game had some way to like spend some morale to reroll, so that the player had some more agency of what story the want to see/tell.
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>>3487767
>game might decide that It's time for me to miss yet another 97% roll

Somebody teach this kid probability, especially with dice. Your mistake was trying to min/max a storybook game for teens.
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>>3487767
Either save scum or just accept the shitty consequences of bad rolls. Both options are fun in this game. This game makes it entertaining when shit hits the fan. It's half of the appeal of the game
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>>3488922
Lol youre so smart, why don’t you teach us probability genius of vrpg

Faggot bitch
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Every game that has dice rolls is rigged against the player. Enemies always roll high, and the player always rolls low. None of them are actually random. None of you will convince me that this isn't true

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I just got FFXI and i’m wondering how long it is to do the main story? Also which expansion should i do first?
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>>3485807
also if you're on this week: as soon as you're comfortable with the game and decide to stick with it, now is a great time to level to 99 due to the xp chain bonuses. and grab shantotto 2 from a greeter moogle asap
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imagine having to follow some guide instead of just playing the game
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>>3488594
what were they thinking when they made Shantotto II? every other DPS trust is absolute garbage by comparison.
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>>3488595
The idea was they intentionally made quests vague and difficult to follow because it would cause players to interact with eachother to figure out where to go and what to do. As the game progressed the quests became more straight forward.
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It's Return to Vana'diel free play week.
Unironic hard pass for me.

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>53 Hours in
>Only just now actually got into it
I'm still not sure if I'd recommend it but I think the game gets much better around Monarch.
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>>3485662
The intro was fucking gay and I stopped playing. I need a world full of fucking redditors.
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The games so fucking mid with a generic RPG system, generic slow mo special mode, and a generic soulless corporations r evil story. It really showed how badly the industry was hurting for good RPG's when this came out and normies were praising it.
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>>3488383
Best ending. Most people would rather get disintigrated peacefully in their sleep than be a Halycon wagie
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>>3487808
Call it safe, call it lazy, it's all the same shit. Obsidian got fucked over by New Vegas and Outer Worlds was inoffensive enough its getting a sequel.
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>>3487609
>trashed by reviewers
it was a single point under the agreed upon score, and it was still a high score.

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This shit could not be more overrated
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>>3485792
Disco Elysium is like Planescape Torment if it was created by actual writers instead of amateurish fanfic authors.
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He was a heartless bastard, but Practical Incarnation practically set everything up for success.
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>>3488683
Damn, actual writers did worse than fanfic authors...
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>>3480668
Yeah, It's excruciatingly reddit, so people who like actually good games wouldn't even touch it by that red flag alone.
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>>3488985
what's the least reddit rpg?

Any game genre or series infographics?
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>>3470526
>Brazil
I told you we're white
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Any about PS2 era and before jrpgs? I'm gonna be in the hospital for a month and need a handy graphic
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>>3470526
>america likes lizard people
>japan likes bretons
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>>3470526
>israel's favorite is altmer
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>>3470536
Too bad this is generally useless as the brute/chaos lord and hermit/wizard dual elements are fucking busted. Djinn are basically just as stable as mono element, and everyone gets a lot more agility, fighters get more attack, and casters get more pp, and you can just spam planet diver on bosses since it actually uses the attack stat, and then the casters just spam wish. Shit's busted and retard proof.

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What are the best WRPGs?
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>>3477758
The PS3 generation is the peak of WRPGs. All Bethesda and Bioware gaymes
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>>3485894
>console generations
NGMI
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>>3485898
Older CRPGs are better but that's what a WRPG is you noodle. That gen was when they become noteworthy on console.
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>>3477764
>Mount and Blade Warband
>Meh
>Alpha Protocol
>Bad
>Mass effect 2
>God tier
Aside from these I more or less agree but these are pants on head retarded.
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>>3485787
Both are turds, its just a different level of turd.
D4 has a better story/presentation and i liked the accessibility options it had in regards to gameplay, ui and co-op.
But other than that, both games are trash.


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