Chapter 479 - Warrior of HopeLast Thread (473-478): >>265312613The Beginning: https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/246835384Previous Chapters: https://desuarchive.org/a/search/subject/Daily%20One%20Piece%20Chapter/Arc List: https://pastebin.com/2qD7h8USWe are on the cruise!
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I want to see Robins docking
>>265556306>not calling it nightmare pistol missed opportunity
End of Chapter.Tomorrow: Interception
>>265556499Thanks OP for the daily OP!
>>265556499Thank you OP.
>>265556203Holy...
>>265556499Thanks OP
We’re so close to the current chapter bros…
>>265556341Shows Luffy's inventiveness is half his power, not just the fruit
>>265556499lolwut
>>265556090Was this page really necessary?
>>265558881Funny how he used Storm to finish off both Crocodile and Moria
Sweet, only 632 plus some yet unreleased chapters to go
>>265556377One of my favorite move, even though it's just adding rotation to Gatling. Beat the crap out of Croc with this one too.
>>265556499Thanks for the dump.
>>265558881This is why I like this manga so much, a guy with some random weak devil fruit who can go toe to toe against some bullshit devil fruit users.Then nika happened.
>>265556499Thanks for the read, OP
>>265559669We are.So Close.To The Brand New Chapter!Start me Up!
>>265559965>And then a direct evolution of what he's been capable of with passive rubber qualities was given ultimate free-wheeling imagination and funKino.
>>265556377AAAAAAAAAAAA
>>265556499Wow I can't believe Oda got Togashi to help with the manga.
>>265559965I mean the gum gum was never really weak, just difficult to use effectively as we'll see in the postwar arc. Really if someone other than Luffy had gotten the fruit I don't think it would put to use as effectively.
>>265561489One of the things that Oda keeps showing is that a "bad" fruit can be good in skilled hands, and even a "good" fruit can be bad if used by an idiot. That explosion fruit the baroque works guy had would be top fucking tier if used by someone smart but he just kept flicking boogers. Buggy's fruit is strong too and god forbid he ever learns to awaken it, he'd be absolutely unstoppable but he's just a joke character. Foxy had a good fruit too, and it doesn't have a weakness like Hancock's does. Again, would be ridiculous with awakening.
>>265556499Thanks, OP.
>>265556499Thank you for posting.
>>265556278I wish we could see Zoro's reaction to Luffy using a katana like this
Thanks
>>265556154Incredible how Lola has a more memorable crew than Hawkins, Urouge and X-Drake
>>265570814Well, it's likely Urouge's crew will get the Fire Tanks pirates treatment
>>265570814Whos?
>>265556499Thanks for the dump, like always, OP.
>>265561489The point of that dynamic was that no fruit was truly weak, they just had shit users. Gum-gum was one of the lowest tier fruits possible, a completely normal body-change paramecia for a substance who's only upside is resistance to blunt damage and lightning. But luffy isn't some normal schmuck who's okay with being the schoolyard bully that is immune to getting punched back, he's an asshole with a dream and a will to see that dream accomplished. The warlords have strong fruits and stopped caring about getting better with them while luffy had a fruit that should be mediocre but was capable of knocking down the entire hierarchy of the world. It's why BB has two of the strongest possible fruit powers you can have along with his crew all having top tier ones, they rely too much on it
>>265558691We're gonna make it!
>>265558691>>265574954And I will be there.
>>265573040Okay but then how does the fruit being nika take away from any of that? It doesn't devalue his accomplishments since it's clear that gear 5 can only be achieved through what Luffy has done and no other user has been able to do it for centuries. It's still a low-tier fruit in the hands of pretty much every other person on the planet, the only change is it just has extremely high potential for those that go through the the effort.
>>265575763NTA but fruits can go from dogshit tier to amazing with awakening. People just don't like the story implications, the actual power is pretty much what you would expect from a high tier gomu gomu user
>>265556499Thanks.
bump
>>265559056Reaction piece was allways a thing. Only Oda used to have more restraint
>>265556469re-reading, i think it's a bit of a shame that Oars disn't lose because of his arm or something, like Chopper pointed outit would make the whole thing more of a team effort instead of Luffy coming back with a power-up and beating the shit out of Oarz straight up
>>265578982Motto!
>>265580566Are you forgetting what comes next, or just being facetious?
>>265578982Don't die just yet, thread!We're only one chapter in!
>>265575225I'm holding you to that, anon.
>>265578982Mada da!
>>265578982yes.
>>265578982...2
>>265578982...3
Chapter 480 - Interception
>>265595463robin feet
>>265556377Powerscaling fags, I need your input. I always thought Moria was kind of retarded for thinking putting a 300 million berry rookie shadow into Oars would be enough to be at all relevant, and he probably still is, but how strong do you think the Oars + Moria combo is? In the same vein, how strong do you think nightmare Luffy is, who was a clearly needed short term boost in order to stand against them?Maybe I'm way off but I think they might be in the YC range
Oars is DOWN! (for real this time.)End of Chapter.Tomorrow: Shadows Asgard
>>265595852Thanks OP for the daily OP!
bump piece
>>265595852>AsgardHOLYThanks op
>>265561932listen to how ridiculous you sound if you have to attach powerlevel airquotes to a basic aspect of the series’ story.
>>265595080Cute
>>265595579he could just be planning on using him to get a stronger shadow and then use that guy's shadow on oarsLike use luffy's shadow and oars body to take out say a 400 million berry guy , then use that guy's shadow on oars to take out a 600 million berry and so on and so forthOars was shitting on zoro who's relative to luffy at this point and the rest of the crew, needed nightmare luffy to weaken him
>>265595810Someone else's back hurts?
>>265595283>>265595333>>265595382>>265595425>>265595463Her comes my favourite part of the fight against Oars
Sweet, only 631 plus some yet unreleased chapters to go
>>265601300We are.So Close.To The Brand New Chapter!Start me Up!
>>265595810What I love about this fight (and most OP fights) is that don't finish with brute force, like Nightmare Luffy punching really hard, but with some clever twist excepto Katakuri, Kaido, etc.
>>265595852Thank you OP.
>>265595741I miss when chopper fought like this
>>265602191>I miss when chopper was an actual characterWe too.
>>265575905Sorry for late reply but of course most fruits being awakened makes them more OP but everyone knew and expected Luffy to Awaken his fruit and become super powerful since we first learned about the concept. The issue I was discussing was the idea that Nika made all of Luffy's struggles with his previous opponents irrelevant because "muh god fruit" when in actuality he only gains Nika powers with gear 5, otherwise he's still just a rubber man.
>>265595852Thanks
>>265596962lit major? you analyzed the post real deep for being such a surface level comment
>>265601300So close...
>>265595463>creates a foothold>it's literally feet>>265595852Thanks, OP.
>>265595852Thanks for the dump, like always, OP.
>>265595852Thanks OP
Bump D. Roger.
>>265583293>>265595779Totaly forgot lmao
>>265595579Moria was all about that snowball effect, with luffy shadow and Oars he would probably go for stronger and stronger shadowsEventually he would go to the new world (somehow...) and get stronger shadows from there...Moria could potentially be a threat if he wasn't mindbroken by Kaido, he would probably need to learn haki at some point too, it's kinda weird he doesn't already
>>265609301>spoilerIt seems like he has been always a too lazy to learn something that requires basically ambition
>>265609301Could zombies use it?
>>265609301I gotta wonder just how bad did he lose to Kaido? I don't think he can damage Kaido?>>265559748Arguably Luffy's strongest move at that time.
>>265575905I men just look at Doffy and what he can do even before awakening with string fruit
>>265595852Thanks for the read, OP
>>265611045>Arguably Luffy's strongest move at that time.Not surprising, considering he clobbered Crocodile along with the bedrock to the surface from that underground chamber.
>>265602380Not him but I think a large part of the basis for the complaints is that we have no idea the full scope of its true nature, and given that it's something as big as secretly being a Mythical Zoan that the WG has been hunting for centuries, anything's possible Hell, the situation could've been the opposite the entire time: rather than Luffy using a meme-tier fruit through creativity and tenacity, maybe he was actually a retard unknowingly being carried by a fruit stronger than what he thought. Think about it: the WG could easily nip him in the bud, but even after he defeated a Warlord of the Sea, they apparently consider it safer to let him hold onto the fruit than to let it re-enter circulation, or risk an incident with Shanks if they actually went after him. As things stand now, it seems they consider him a fluke fighter that never would have had a chance to awaken the fruit and actually become a threatAnd yeah, it's true that's how Luffy was regardless, because the whole point of the time skip is that his current trajectory wouldn't have gotten him anywhere close to the New World or awakening the fruit, but recontextualizing it as a god fruit and having it be one of the single most dangerous things in existence to their reign shows just how much confidence the WG had to leave him be. It's not conclusive evidence, but everything's been called into question.And there's also a question of how much of it was the Fruit's Will and destiny. Like how much of the gains and such could be chalked up to the fruit, or how much of it was a conscious decision to be in Luffy's possession. Functionally it might be similar, but there's a difference between "only someone like Luffy could've awakened the Rubber Fruit," and "Luffy was chosen as having the qualities to awaken the Nika Fruit and become Joyboy." Earning vs grooming, as it were.
>>265612610Crazy idea, not even theory, here, but what if nika state can be achieve by every fruit or, at least, many fruits? I say this because we have already seen that Bonny could tranform in something similar to nika for a moment just thinking about it
>>265613226It would be funny if it turned out that the Gum-Gum Fruit was simply the one that mostly directly lead to a NIka state, and it had to be retconned back from being a Myhtical Zoan.
>>265595852Thank you for posting.
>>265612610Oda has a very particular interpretation of fate in a similar way that Araki does. Fate is not predestiny/free will be damned you were always gonna be special, it's portrayed as BECAUSE the people are like this, the movers and shakers, the outcomes from that kind of person in this world will come to fruition, spurred along by circumstance and bolstered by strife. The point where Luffy awakens isn't just a product of the fate "his fruit is different, surprise", it's an entire narrative of the WG being so tyrannical as to try and snuff out someone for being tangentially connected to a symbol of liberation. That attempt to smother freedom is the very act that unshackles Luffy and gives birth to their greatest fears: it is the fate of oppressors to create their own undoing. As for nipping Luffy, the very fact they waited until there were no interlopers remaining on Wano in order to witness their changing history shows that targetting Luffy especially so would only draw further questions and that, given 800 years of the fruit evading them, it could very well tip their hand if done poorly. Lucky for them, Luffy creates circumstances that justify lethal counterattacks: but in each instance, Luffy is saved by his character influencing other people. Kuma saves him because he's a liberator like Nika, Whitebeard's crew saves him because he talked shit to WB's face and loved Ace, even when ordered to apprehend him Fujitora was moved to give Luffy a chance to escape. The number of people who know the truth can be counted likely on two hands, and any order passed down to specifically target Luffy draws attention that could lead to a rumor the WG has tried to snuff entirely.
>>265616503For the first paragraph: the thing is, that's honestly the point but flipped to the other side of the argument. Luffy awakening the Gum-Gum and reincarnating the position of Joyboy is something that didn't need or would've been tied to Nika otherwise, but the fact that Nika would otherwise be such a needless addition and the fact that it changes the entirety of the nature (if not the effects) of Luffy's powers including outside of Gear 5 is something that--until clarified otherwise--does naturally raise question about how much it's been affecting things. Either that, or if it is just Oda trying to literally embody fate manifest in the plot in a retroactive manner, then the reaction to that is that people just consider it poor writing. For the second: it is a good sentiment for Luffy's character that he gets out of those jams those ways, but with the stakes attached to the fruit and the level of conspiracy that the WG is able to enforce, it's too much to believe they would lack any subtle way to more persistently chase after him or otherwise send someone to make sure the job's done/follow-up after he gets let go yet again by Smoker or Aokiji or Garp or Kuma and so on. Hell, Ennies Lobby could've marked a tipping point where Luffy was near constantly being tracked and chased in some regards by Marines and hired Mercs/Bounty Hunters, and nobody would've batted an eye about Luffy getting targeted. But who knows, maybe that'll be a reveal later on: that they HAVE been more persistently chasing him from the shadows. It'll be another asspull, but at least it'll retcon some more sense into the equation.
>>265595579the idea was that Oars would just be the first in a new group of extra strong 900+ zombies, wasn't it? I don't think Oars alone was ever the endgoal, he was an investment in order to get hold of even stronger corpses and stronger shadows.
>>265610364Moria got lazy after the defeast from Kaido, it changed him. He's still has ambition, he wants to be pirate king, just don't want to work for itI can relate
>>265595579While Oars wasn't gonna carry him alone against the yonko it definitely would've allowed him to stand his ground in the New World, the Straw Hats were pretty much at the top of the first half of the GL and they were decimated by it. It's hard to say just how strong Nightmare Luffy is, but considering it's design I always imagined it was Gear 4 level at least.Like the others said, Oars' real value would've been allowing Moria to snowball. Imagine if he rocked up to Sabaody, he would've probably been able to collect the shadows of all Supernovas and entered the New World as a serious threat. His plan was pretty solid.>>265609301>it's kinda weird he doesn't alreadyLike with Crocodile I always imagined he could do it at one point, but lost the ability to after having his will shattered by Kaido. The anime also kinda confirms it in Oden's flashback, we see haki lightning flash when Kaido and Moria clash.
>>265618908NTA but I guess that makes sense.
>>265618908ah, he actually said so even
>>265622574Spells it out word for word.
>>265617942The time between Enies Lobby and the timeskip is actually pretty damn short, like a couple of weeks. It just feels long because it's so many chapters. Once Kuma sent them all away there's no real way to find the SH crew until they showed back up again and after that they've been scrapping with marines along the way. Unless Robin has been a secret Marine spy all along I don't think there's any way they've been keeping track of their movements.
>>265595810Clapped.
Not yet...
>>265595579>>265618908>>265620997>>265622574New zombies have that rebellious phase that would only get worse as the power gaps between the shadows he acquires and the bodies he has available get wider.Odds are he'd fly too close to the sun and get clapped by a too-powerful zombie before it becomes loyal.
>>265630628That's where having Oars comes into play. First you get another Oars-level zombie and have Oars keep it busy until the rebellious phase ends, then you repeat that a few times until you have enough special zombies to go hunting even higher.
Chapter 481 - Shadows Asgard
>>265617942Firstly, the people who would decry it as a random retcon are usually the same ones trying to draw it to an unnatural conclusion like that; how long has Luffy's powers been different in a way that changes his journey? When the answer is, IF it's a retcon then there would be none of that implication intended because it's just bad writing, OR if it's been intended for a while then Luffy's journey just hasn't been the one you thought you understood. Ever since post-timeskip we've gunned towards Emperorship. Seeing any effective change to Luffy's accomplishments is cynically myopic because it ignores Luffy's consistent failures as well. Luffy couldn't beat Crocodile 2/3 times. He basically became immobile after fighting Lucci and then Moria and couldn't deliver the crew to safety. Even now on Egghead, Luffy's distracting a major force but the rest of the crew are handling themselves AND Luffy's failed to protect Vegapunk. Which is it, is Luffy OP with this retcon or is his still falling short and incapable of saving everyone alone?Regarding the second subject, how would that have even helped? It requires excess focus on a pirate that otherwise is still a Paradise scrub in attention they haven't shown anyone else, and they're being sent after who? The guy who beat the greatest assassin? For what purpose? Again, it only draws attention when the point was to obfuscate. It's too much to believe what, that they lack persistent ways to track people? This is the One Piece world where everyone is trying to find a hidden island on the sea and the WG has a ton of people they want to track down and stop ACTIVELY. Why would they have any more luck with Luffy than with Bonney, Dragon, the poneglyphs, letting the Emperors roam free? The entire manga is proof the WG doesn't have the ability to do that, they aren't omnipotent and their forces are constantly spread thin.
The Strawhats have one final challenge for them in Thriller Bark! How will they be able to defeat Moria before the sun comes up? Find out in Tomorrow's Chapter: Morning is Coming(End of Volume 49)
As a bonus, here are the Usopp Gallery Pirates submissions from the original Japanese release of Volume 49.
>>265633202Jesus
>>265632793What's the deal with Lola? She never obeyed Absalom althought as a zombie she must.
>>265633625Could be they fucked up her contract.Or her 'Absalom loves me' delusions are strong enough that she interprets them as orders.
>>265633023>>265633065The pages that vindicated Moria
>>265632974>You can't scare a real pirate with the threat of death.First badass moment for Moria. Wish we'd seen more of it.
>>265633023That's just Don Krieg again.
>>265632894FUARK, Robin...
>>265633202Cindry noooooooooooMoria forma final...
>>265633412Thanks OP
>>265633412Thanks OP for the daily OP!
Nice
>>265632974>>265633023>>265633065These three pages are why I think Moria is massively underrated as a villain and why I think he's one of the most important villains of pre-timeskip. It's because he's Luffy.Out of all villains we've seen so far Moria is the most similar to Luffy. Even his introduction, awaking form a days long sleep and immediately chowing down on days worth of food, is something Luffy has done multiple times throughout the series. They share the same dream. They both have their vice, while Luffy is a glutton Moria is lazy. They have similar idealised views of what a pirate should be. They're both playful and excitable, Luffy with new island/friends and Moria with a new zombie like Oars, even to the point of endangering their crew.Most importantly though he's the first villain to not only truly care for his (current and former) crew but also agree with Luffy on the importance of relying on and trusting others. Even if he takes it to a comical level with his "you do it" attitude. Like Luffy his crew is a small circle of friends, the first villain crew where all members have their own individual dreams they're trying to make happen together. No other villain displays similar guts when it comes to protecting their crew. Moria storms a yonko stronghold by himself, trauma be damned, when he suspects they did something to his pal. He even has similar pride as Luffy. He could've just waited a few more minutes and he'd have won by default, but he chose to use Shadows Asgard and fight instead.Yet despite these similarities, he failed. He a living example that the power of friendship isn't gonna cut it in the New World. And he's completely right, Luffy soon loses everything because he rejected the warning and thought it didn't apply to him and his friends. Moria is Luffy's bad end. He's what would've happened if Jinbe wasn't there for Luffy.Moria is great.
>>265632725>how long has Luffy's powers been different in a way that changes his storyThat's the thing, we don't know anymore. The fact that it's a mythical zoan all the time presents unknown factors to Luffy's powers outside of Gear 5. Nobody can be sure anymore, but the fact that it was introduced as something that would have implications outside of Gear 5 leads people to be wary and a bit peeved. The answer for "how long has Luffy's powers been different [than being a weak paramecia] might've actually be day one, and we just wouldn't know now>which is it: is Luffy OP with his retcon or is he still falling shortThe point is that it can be both. It's shown and stated a million times that people with the best Devil Fruit in the world can be mediocre users, but nevertheless lets them go pretty far. For all we know, Luffy might actually be one of those users now, rather than the other way around.>it requires excess focus on a pirate that is otherwise still a Paradise scrubA Paradise scrub that's "declared war on the entire world" and is one of the few people to actively assault the doorstep to Navy HQ. There's no shortage of reasons to actively hunt the Straw Hats, not just try to capture them or deploy forces in reaction to their appearance, and the fact they didn't despite knowing he basically has access/lines-to all the keys needed to end the WG leads to a lot of questions with few good/satisfying answers>why would they have any more luck with LuffyLuffy is "a Paradise scrub" that isn't remotely trying to hide himself, sailing in an ocean where you have a 99% chance of knowing exactly what island someone will sail to next thanks to the Log Pose System, unless you have Eternal Poses for islands--which the World Government does
>>265634516They both have the role of "villain there to hype up the next region because they couldn't cut it there", but as characters go they're quite the opposite. Don Krieg thought people are disposable, Moria wants to rely on zombies because he thinks people aren't disposable and he doesn't want to lose anyone anymore.Unlike Krieg, he's also right about the Straw Hats not being ready.
>>265633412Thanks for the read, OP
Sweet, only 630 plus some yet unreleased chapters to go
>>265637425We are.So Close.To The Brand New Chapter!Start me Up!
>>265633412Thanks, OP.>>265634516Not really. Don Krieg was a big fish in a small pond, while Moria is legitimately an important pirate who still got demolished. Basically, what >>265636727 said.
>>265636727>All this text.Perona, please.Kidding, great analysis anon, I also thing that Moria is and underated villain and I hope he will be vindicated soon.
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>>265637813YABBA DABBA DOOOOOOOOOO
>>265633202I think he should have spared at least Oars' shadow. He could have waited until Oars could regain his powers.Sad too see Cindry dying again.
>>265638207I don't think shattered spines just heal in a few moments.. Especially those of literal corpses.
>>265637037>people with the best Devil Fruit in the world can be mediocre users, but nevertheless lets them go pretty far. For all we know, Luffy might actually be one of those users now, rather than the other way aroundAnd that's a completely fucking cynical interpretation to what the rest of the story has shown and told you. Luffy as a child couldn't do anything with his fruit that otherwise made him bulletproof. As an adult he's since trained it to the point of absurd displays that have toppled monsters. Claiming that journey is now invalid because at the finish line for his fruit he got a better power than what he initially appeared to have is reductive and erases what we actually have known and seen happen. If you can accept the struggles he obviously has in combats as part of it why is it difficult to accept that he's absolutely reached the apex of what he can do with his fruit otherwise when he has been interpreting it the same way as he always has?>knowing he basically has access/lines-to all the keys needed to end the WGThat's pure headcanon, yknow. He has a fruit with a name of a censored god fundamentally opposed to the WG's nature and a ridiculous ability on top of it. Any "keys to ending the WG" is fanfiction.>sailing in an ocean where you ... know exactly what island someone will sail to nextThat's exactly what they did, though. Aokiji knew the Strawhats would be headed to Water Seven and alerted CP9. They sent the Hero of the fucking Marines to capture Luffy after Enies Lobby and knew departing from there, Luffy would head into Thriller Bark, where they sent Kuma to warn Moria and then directly order to kill Luffy. His direct assault on a Celestial Dragon led them to summon a fucking admiral. We already have seen the consequences of Luffy's actions that still align with trying to kill him at any opportunity, but Luffy has survived every time on his charisma and connections.
>>265633412Thank you OP.
>>265639089>because at the finish line for his fruit he got a better power than what he initially appeared to haveThe point is that now, we don't actually know how much of it was actually at the finish line>it was still a struggle and it's still him earning those powers, so why does it matterContext has changed. Luffy is potentially not a scrapped that made the most out of a mediocre fruit. He might now be a tenacious idiot that wasn't able to properly utilize a literal God Fruit>that's pure headcanon, y'knowNo, he's got Franky. He's got Nico. He's got lines to directly rebuild and reactivate the ancient weapons and make it all the way to Laugh Tale with the Road Poneglyphs. Having the God Fruit that's diametrically opposed to the WG is icing on the cake>that's what exactly what they did though [...] but Luffy has survived every time on his charisma and connectionAlready acknowledged, and the point is that it's not that proactive though when you get down to it, and it has little follow-up. Aokiji and CP9 are concerned entirely with Robin and are fine with leaving Luffy to go free regardless, and given Aokiji's behavior at Jaya + Long Ring, both from what's reported and connecting the dots on what's not, sending him with little follow-up isn't much of an actual attempt to stop Luffy. Same goes for Garp: they know he was just visiting; Sengoku had to actively twist his arm to "go after him" in what basically amounted to a play fight, with the only one there to confirm things is slacker Aokiji again. Then Kuma, his intervention policy is minimal. Putting Kuma's own thoughts and interactions with Luffy aside, his actual orders are pretty relaxed regarding actively fighting Luffy until things tip over. Same goes for Kizaru: they don't use the Dragon as an excuse to go after Luffy, it's just 100% existing protocol
>>265632974>>265633023>>265633065Most depressed man Moria
>>265633625In theory they owed Absalom allegiance, but their master is Moria, not him
>>265640168>literal god, literal godIt's a fucking HUMAN fruit, anon, holy shit, every time this comes up nobody is willing to address it's a HUMAN. He's utilized the passive abilities he got to his own advantages and worked towards his victories and the only inkling towards Luffy using something beyond straight rubber body is Gear 4 reflecting attacks.>we don't actually know how much of it wasYes we do, it's Luffy. It has always been Luffy and he has always been Luffy. >his actual orders are pretty relaxedLiterally 2 chapters from where this thread is the direct order to Kuma is "kill him." Him disobeying that order IS a result of Luffy's character and crew.
>>265640784>every time this comes up nobody is willing to address it's a HUMANIt is by nature not just the Human Fruit, the same as how Marco's isn't the Bird-Bird fruit. Same as every other Mythical Fruit. That's why they're Mythical.>he utilized the passive abilitiesThe scope and STRENGTH of which might be far greater than what we knew before without Luffy realizing or being conveyed to the reader, just like everything else about Gum-Gum being Hito Hito Model Nika>Yes we do, it's Luffy. It has always been Luffy and he has always been Luffy. We don't know that anymore. It's the same amount of "it's always been Luffy" as "it's always been the Gum-Gum fruit." It's not anymore, and the same can is called into question regarding Luffy. >Literally 2 chapters from where this thread is the direct order to Kuma is "kill him."Yeah but if Luffy just fucked off from Moria then it's all good. Again, entirely reactive, not proactive.
Ok, let's let this thread die (my final bump).
>>265633412Thanks for the dump, like always, OP.
>>265633412Thank you for posting.
>>265641647I will not, this thread... will LIVE!
ZEHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHH
One Piece!
I like how this place is the best place to have civil discussion for this series.
>>265647116Ssssshhhh, it's better not to mention that, or we might accidentaly summon those idiots.
I still think Jake Jake no Mi is the shittiest fruit in this series.
>>265647116Enjoy it while it's here. There's no guarantee it stays that way.
>>265647116This Storytime will get unbearable in the post Dressrosa arcs though.
>>265633625Maybe Moria was messing with him, if I was in his place I would definitely pull a prank like that
>>265651144Nah I think wci saga will stay pretty civilized. Wano though...
>>265640784Buddha fruit is human-human too, makes sense I suppose since Buddha is not a god in a literal sense but revered as a deity much like Nika. People put too much weight on the word "god" as if it's some almighty being like the Christian god and not like the millions of shitter Japanese gods that are more like spirits
>>265636727Moria displays such a great character here. I just wish it was more present throughout the arc
>>265648918Which is next in line?
>>265414770Wait, which one Ace defeated? I only remember his stalemate with Jimbei?
>>265633412Thanks, OP.
>>265555957My fave arc.
>>265654662I'm not sure. It feels like the rest have their use, one way or another. Maybe the second worst is Brook's? But I can't be sure because his circumstance is very specific. If someone stabbed you then you immediately return to your body, will you just die again right after because of the gaping wound?
>>265657360>will you just die again right after because of the gaping wound?considering Brook is able to live comfortably without any skin or other organ I feel like you'd just keep the gaping wound but not be further bothered by it.
>>265612610I think he IS being carried a bit. G3/G4 ISN'T how rubber works. I can let G2 slide because it's creative use of not dying to a heart attack. But then again, zoans have frequently shown 'fuck reality, my body works how I want it to'. Which fits both the 'It's magic rubber bones/muscle' and 'I'm a zoan I work how I want to'.
>>265648918Yeah that's definitely the one fruit where I can't imagine how you can "get better" with it. It's beyond situational, it basically only works for Funk brothers and people in their exact situation. Maybe if you could try to use it to possess others it'd have potential but the user seems immobile in jacket mode and having to be worn completely seems like it'd just be too difficult to force on people.
>>265637425WE're almost there...
>>265661433We're gonna make it!
Almost there.
>>265659496I think you're onto something. Not necessarily whether G3 is outside what a Rubber Human could do, but that G3 is quite a good deal stronger for just inflating than one would expect, even with the supporting physics of distributed forces, and it's the power that Bonney uses when she's mimicking Nika.
VOLUME 50 - ARRIVING AGAIN
Chapter 472 - Morning is Coming
>>265667728HOLY FUCK THAT NAMI.Nami sexy and delicious body...Eh I mean, you should make a new thread for this one.
>>265667938>]Uh.. Is Robin beginning to undress here?
>>265668116>"final form" that makes him bigger >can get his power beaten out of himIt was over for Moria before it even began. The latter part does feel like an author nerf similar to Enel's/Crocodile's elemental weakness though - he would be too strong for Luffy to defeat otherwise. Would be nice if we could see him do a controlled transformation later on.
>>265668256Always had the headcanon that he could do it without problems before losing to Kaido, now he is not in good shape and can't hold all those shadows
Moria is DOWN! But will all of the shadows return to their owners before the sun rises up? Find out in Tomorrow's Chapter: The End of the Dream
>>265668423That and he's already had the shit kicked out of him by Nightmare Luffy at this point.
>>265667728Oda really shooting blanks when it was time to come up with an idea for Volume Cover 50.
>>265633625Wasn't Lola one of Perona's zombies?
>>265667728Sexo with Nami.>>265668256>The latter part does feel like an author nerf similar to Enel's/Crocodile's elemental weakness though - he would be too strong for Luffy to defeat otherwise. This is why I support haki. Requiring every villain with a DF to have a niche weakness for Luffy to exploit is just bad writing. Haki creates a built in weakness that levels the playing field between DF users and normal people. >>265668426Thanks, OP.>>265668505More like full loads.
>>265633412that's a cool line from luffy
Oh no, HE will appear soon
>>265668927He already has.
>>265668256>The latter part does feel like an author nerf similar to Enel's/Crocodile's elemental weakness though - he would be too strong for Luffy to defeat otherwise.does it? I never really felt that way. It was already established that it's extremely difficult to hold in shadows as a living person, Nightmare Luffy was just a temporary transformation after all too. All that's different here is that Moria gets to be defeated by Luffy actually doing something, and not just waiting for the timer to run out.
>>265668426Thank you for posting.
>>265668426>Jobbed alreadyKWABThanks OP
>>265668426Thanks
>>265633202>you get to see all the characters from the arc laid to restWhat a great final send send-off for the chapter. God I wish OP was still this kind of kino.
>>265633244Took me a while to realize what this panel reminded me of.
>>265668426Thanks OP for the daily OP!
can't nami just make some big clouds
>>265674270Can't Franky just instantly build a bridge above them?
>>265668426Thanks for the dump, like always, OP.
>>265667728One of the first volume I bought because I really liked the cover
>>265669169It's considered a nerf because in this case all Moria needs to do to win is hide and let the sun defeat them. He only loses control of his shadows when he's actively controlling them, so to draw them all in to become a punching bag feels too reckless for an otherwise shrewd villain. I agree with you that narratively it's more satisfying to have Luffy do something to win, but it does require Moria to snap and be a dumbass. Sure, even without the shadows he couldn't beat Luffy, but without the shadows he could also have used doppelman to escape and kite Luffy until dawn.I accept it as it is, acknowledging the silliness of it, because like you said, it's just more satisfying for Luffy to pummel him.
>>265668426I remembered thriller bark as a pretty long arc but it was over really fast, guess that's why it's good to do rereads sometimes. Thanks OP
>>265668423While that's pure headcanon I think it checks out. His thoughts in >>265668334 suggest he's surprised the shadows are escaping him.>>265669169I always imagined it was a matter of pride. Sure, Moria has resorted to hiding in the shadows now but his quote about pirates not fearing death and younger appearances suggest he used to be a more balls to the walls kinda pirate, and deep inside he still is. I think that Luffy charging headstrong into the same mistake he made just ticked him off and he wanted to teach him the lesson himself.
>>265676325The second part was meant for >>265675229
>>265676638We are.So Close.To The Brand New Chapter!Start me Up!
>>265668426Thank you OP.
>>265673555>200...>...300...>...600...>...700...>1000 OUNCES OF CREATINE!!
>>265659496I guess Oda did foreshadow it a bit with a line from Doffy and Katakuri about that's not how rubber works.>>265667728Best cover. I came from that Nami.
>>265668334Jet shell is one of my favorite move, shame Luffy only used it in this fight. Combining gear 2 and 3 seems cool at that time. Gear 4 is arguably that evolution.
>>265665877 But Zoro does the exact same thing, and he doesn't even have a DF.
>>265667967Now I'm wondering if Moria can make super special zombies by combining strong bodies and multiple shadows.
>>265668265I remember reading a translation with Luffy saying he can't be crushed because he's made of rubber. That one must be the more literal one.
>>265668298Oh yeah, I forgot he combined those two gears here. Cool stuff.
>>265668426>lost because his own carelessnessI like this a lot.Thanks OP.
>>265682038One Bump Piece.
>>265668673Haki's alright outside of CoC, but it would've been just as cool for Seastone Weaponry to be more of a factor.
>>265668426Thanks for the read, OP
>chapter 482So 16 more days until THEY appear.
>>265685242THEY...?
>>265686210THOSE people
>>265686593HOLY
>>265686593I hate THOSE people.
>>265668423I've always seen it as something akin to inexperienced pilots getting motion sickness. You need to build up a tolerance for it.
>>265688827>pilots getting motion sicknessHuh, I assumed that wouldn't happen. I guess you're right.
>>265679270lmao
>page 10
This arc is fun.
This arc is ok.
>>265633202fat fuck
>>265667836Is this AI art?
>>265693911>>265695254The duality of /a/.
>>265630628I think regularly part of the reason Moria teamed up with Perona was that she used her negativity ghosts during this process. Personally I like to imagine Oars in a 1vs1 was too much for the rest of the Supernovas, unless theres enough stitches for Kidd to control.
>>265682334Yeah, that's why I'm not a fan of the translations OP has been posting. They butchered some of Lucci's best lines in the last arc too.
>>265696379What makes you say that?
One Piece isn't real.
Don't believe his lies.
Ummm... OP?
>>265704468Whitebeard said One Piece is real and i believe
OP is kill...
Yes, I'm slightly late. Sorry about that.Chapter 483 - The End of the Dream
>>265709985>>265710039Margarita a cute.
End of Chapter.Tomorrow's Chapter: Squish
>>265710593Thanks OP for the daily OP!
>>265709985>KaidoWho?
Sweet, only 629 plus some yet unreleased chapters to go
>>265710555The tension in this arc is crazy
Thanks again OP
>>265710296
>>265711306We are.So Close.To The Brand New Chapter!Start me Up!
>>265668673Haki creates a built in weakness that levels the playing field between DF users and normal peopleIn my opinion Usopp gaining Haki when taking down sugar was pure fucking kino and one of the most kino moments post-time skip
>>265709985>>265710039The true Cindry
>>265712124That's because all it did was give Usopp a bead and timeline, the rest was purely his expertise getting the bullet to reach. I almost expect him to get more solidified Haki in Elbaf since it directly ties to his dream, but we'll see.
>>265709985>>265710039>>265710117I was really not into Thriller Bark's conclusion before but this felt like a really cathartic ending. on the reread.
>>265667967there's absolutely nothing i love more than the massive pan in/pan out oda does at the beginning/end of chapters. cant wait for the final panels of the pan out that reveal the whole world in like, what, 5 years?
>>265715010W-what is she eating??
>>265715422does it matter?
Just started the anime. Fuck me is the dub awful.
>>265711183Nobody important
>>265710593Thank you OP.
>>265653266Buddha is the best comparison. Imagine if we got the story of sengoku and for 80% of it he thought he got the gold-gold fruit and was a gold man paramecia. Gold is a shit metal for fighting even if it's better than being normal so every fight he won was genuinely earned because he's got this mediocre fruit that he had to apply guts and creativity to; and then, at the very end, it's revealed to actually be the buddha fruit. That'd be fucking shit, it'd completely undermine all his accomplishments as a gold man and just make him into an idiot that didn't understand his own fruit when everyone else does.
>>265718388Idk we saw the gold fruit in a movie looked pretty busted
>>265718388But the fruit wouldn't be the buddha fruit unless he struggled for so long as a gold man. He was rewarded with a power up after spending half his life like that. Every fruit can power up in similar ways but he has one of the rare ones that power up a step further. There are other special ones like BB's "logia" which can't turn him intangible and is probably also a hidden zoan fruit and he's bullshitting hardcore about which fruit he has
>>265710593Thanks for the read, OP
>>265718790If the fruit acts like doffy's threads, yeah. But if it just turned your body into gold like luffy's does with his rubber body it'd be shit tier, pure gold is soft enough you can shape it with your hands.>>265718804Where the fuck can fruits power up by randomly evolving into completely different ones? Awakenings don't do that shit at all, awakened zoans just give you more power at the cost of control and the awakened paramecias we've seen just give you expanded range and influence. Which, itself, would've been completely fine to say that he's getting to imbue his rubber powers elsewhere with his awakening but oda didn't, he said that it's a completely different fruit than what it was that just so happens to also have the properties of rubber.And Blackbeard bullshitting his own fruit is different because that means Teach himself knows what it is and how to use it from both study and instinct the same way everyone else does upon eating. You don't see the giraffe fruit suddenly turn into the human-human fruit:Model Set because even if we saw the effort it'd be ridiculous. The previous efforts are inherently undermined by not knowing how much of was even luffy's own actions instead of the fruit's influence at this point.
>>265718804Nah. Like what if Sengoku was using his palm thrusts as Gold-Gold Bell Shockwave and thought it was strong because he was creatively using the ringing qualities of Gold, but it turned out it was strong because he was tapping into the supernatural power of Buddha and it wasn't the qualities of Gold he was using, it was the qualities of being a Mythical Zoan Fruit. Then later, when a character is introduced that is able to tap into the Power of Buddha themselves, it's specifically the Gold-Gold Bell Shockwave, showing the fact that it was in God Mode the entire time and not just a Gold Man before that point. That's how things are looking with Luffy.
>>265719254Fruits are essentially completely different once they're awakened. The power to influence things around them rather than just their own body is such a huge difference they can't be counted as the same power. Just look at Katakuri, there's a world of difference between just being the stay puft marshmallow man and having everything around him being malleable. 100% of the effort put in was Luffy's because the fruit didn't become active until he awakened it either way. It's the same tired argument as with dragonball super and Bardock's wish. No it didn't retroactively put the dragonball in his pocket to save him from Tao no matter how much you cry about it>>265719377Again, it was just the gum-gum fruit until it was awakened. In the Sengoku comparison he would just have been a gold man until he figured out his awakening
>>265711183A drunk jobber
>>265719625>It's the same tired argument as with dragonball super and Bardock's wishIt's really not. In my mind bardock's wish was granted and over with as soon as Goku ended up in grandpa gohan's arms. That is ending up safe and thriving until he started making his own misfortunes and adventures. And beyond that, simply training with gohan and roshi themselves was the preparation to thrive. This is something that is not only ongoing but has supposedly been influencing and synchronizing with him since the very start.>completely differentsince when? Awakened zoans like minotaurus are just another hybrid form and even more stamina and power and that's all we've been shown. Awakened paramecias like doffy, law, and kidd, have all had the same hallmarks, they keep their core power with more range and stamina with the added benefit of being able to convert other shit into the properties they work like doffy making buildings into threads or kidd magnetizing shit other than his own body. Kidd doesn't become a gravity man, or doffy a transmutation man, they're both the core fruit with some added perks.
>>265719625>In the Sengoku comparison, he would have just been a gold manAnd the point of the post is that it could easily be a situation where he just THINKS he's a Gold Man and he's been benefitting from being a Buddha Boy the entire time, and if anything it likely points that way due to being a Zoan and how Bonney doesn't use Gear 5 powers, she uses Gear 3.
>>265719938Think of it as the level system from Raildex. Two people can have the same power but the difference between a level 3 and a level 5 is so huge they're not even the same power any more. Having the power to set anything you touch on fire vs. having the power to set anything you can see on fire. Yes they're both a "fire" power, but they're so far removed from each other that they might as well be called something different>>265719996But that's not what happened though so I'm not sure why you're bringing it up
>>265720166>But that's not what happened though so I'm not sure why you're bringing it upWe've reached an impasse on reading given information and I feel like you've stepped into the snide, so the most fruitful thing at this point is to call you gay.
>>265720438I appreciate the fact that you know you're bullshitting at least. I accept your concession
>>265710593Thanks for the dump like always OP.
>>265715938Just reading the manga gives me a lot of second-hand embarrassment, why would you subject yourself to the anime?
>>265710593Thanks OP
>>265709835>>265709884>end of dream>crew disintegratesAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>265710077I actually like this shadow mechanic. It works both ways for Moria and other people.
>>265710593Thx.
>>265715692Interesting
>>265710296Baka Nami.>>265710593Thanks, OP.
>>265715938>DubThat's the first mistake.
>>265556306pow right in the kisser
>>265710383For the second time this arc, ENTER
URSUS SHOCK!URSUS SHOCK!
>>265710383EL OSO
>>265668265>>265682334prefer this TL
>>265728740It does sound more literal, but what do I know.
>>265726186I fell asleep during an episode, so when it switched to the next, the audio was set to default.
>>265710296ALZHEIMERmi
>>265709835Sanji, Zoro and Robin are Badass as fuck
Is it too much to ask for everybody who localized Zoro as "Zolo" to be rounded up and executed?The only thing worse is how Conan's "arere" turned into "alele". I almost vomited typing that.
>>265710383Bisoromi Bear
>>265731894You will accept localization. You have no choice.
>>265710039>>265709985I always wonder, why does she hated plates so much?
>>265728740A place to get this translation?
>>265710593Thank you for posting.
>>265710077I wonder how far that mechanic can be stretched. Let's say you lose your shadow, then someone cuts off your arm, and then ten years later you get your shadow back. Would your arm grow back? Cause your shadow would be in the state of having two arms all this time, no matter what happened to your physical body.
>>265737764Something tells me Oda hasn't thought about it that hard.
Bump.
>>265731894Go back to being a psycho on Twitter, retard.
>>265734337Hogback introduced Cindry saying she tested her wealthy fiance's love by breaking his 10 most valuable plates and her fiance got so angry he broke off the engagement and kicked her out of his mansion.I assume that was actually Margarita's backstory, since she immediately offers to leave the mansion after breaking her current boss' plates and she cries when he says he doesn't care about them as long as she's okay.
>>265667728Did the japanese volume come with a firing skull too?
>>265709930>>265709985>>265710039Those people psoriasis must have been terrible
>>265709930>>265709985Honestly props to these guys for continuing their journeys even without their shadows.
Chapter 484 - Squish
>>265709985>>265710039margarita a cutie
>>265745899HAH
!!!
End of Chapter.Tomorrow: Straw Hat Pirates - Pirate Hunter Zoro
>>265745705Devil fruits get weirder and weirder. Also I like that Robin now also has airheaded moments.
>>265746027Nothing compares to seeing the Ursus shock in the anime for the first time like a nuclear bomb just hit thriller bark while the orchestra plays
>>265745639>HOW CAN THAT BE?!?!?!?!says the one whose shadow was stolen (???) and put into zombies (??????)they know devil fruits exist, why are they so surprised?
>>265745441As someone who was a massive Zoro fanboy as when I first watched One Piece seeing this fight for the first time was so fucking hype. Helps that Kuma is so cool he makes his goofy power look terrifying. Part of me is sad we'll never get to see a rematch, though it wouldn't fit what we now know of Kuma at all. It still feels kinda surreal that we finally learnt what Kuma's deal is in the latest arc. That felt like one of those mysteries that was always gonna be revealed in some far future that we'd never actually reach.>>265746225Yeah it's one of those moments that the anime really captured even better than the manga.
>>265745755>deflected at lightspeedbullshit
>>265746293Honestly even if I lived in the One Piece world I'd never guess there was a devil fruit which "just" gives someone paw pads on their hands.You'd think someone on Lola's crew would've known about the existence of all kinds of weird creatures though.
>>265746067Thanks OP for the daily OP!
>>265745755>sumo stanceForeshadowing?
>>265745705this is the moment that Devil Fruit powers just became whatever the fuck
>>265747334>not Foxy "I emit a magic particle that slows things for 30 seconds">not Verygood "I am balls"
>>265747334One of the first devil fruits introduced just makes you slippery
>>265746370>>265745755THIS MEANS EVERY ONE PIECE CHARACTER WHO CAN REACT TO THESE AIR BUBBLES HAS AN FTL REACTION SPEED!!!
>>265720529>snide rudepostingThe One Piece Daily has fallen, millions are mean
>>265747757>>265747600At the end "slowing things down" and "becoming slippery" are still simple enough concepts, the execution of the first just might be a bit contrieved. Kumas power on the other hand is making air pressure bubbles but they're also paw shaped for some reason because he has paw pads on his hands because why not, also he can make bubbles that can transport you and also he can extract the suffering of other people into his bubbles because thats obviously related to air pressure oh and he can also teleport. Haven't caught up to current chapter yet so maybe his power gets wrapped up afterall.
>>265748350They wrapped his powers up in the same chapter they introduce it, Zoro literally says it. It's the ability to repel anything with his soft and bouncy paw pads. The rest is just application of that concept, it's all paw shaped because the paws are the ability.>repel air to shoot air pressure>repel himself to "teleport">repel people very hard to transport them>repel concepts like pain and memoriesI wonder if that last one is meant to be awakening.
>>265748687>spoilerWouldn't say so since repelling pain is one of the first things Kuma does after escaping God Valley. Assuming the Awakening would be something like Kid turning others into magnets, Kuma would make other things able to repel.
>>265746027It's over...>>265746067Thanks OP
>>265745705Poor guy probably can't even jack off anymore
>>265746067Thanks for the read, OP
>>265745934>implying that it's ever fun to killPSYCHOma>>265746067Thanks, OP.
>>265746067Thanks for the dump like always OP.
Sweet, only 628 plus some yet unreleased chapters to go
>>265746067Thanks.
>>265746067Thank you OP.
>>265748909You say "first" but the difference in time is like 14 years, it's not inconceivable that's awakened, just kinda unnecessary.
>>265745705Poor Franky has had his mouth closed over and over
>>265745934Reading this while knowing what we currently know about Kuma is really funny, I can imagine he is just hamming up his tyrant personality just to be scarier and it's working
>>265752056We are.So Close.To The Brand New Chapter!Start me Up!
>>265745992>A bomb? In other words he is making a bomb? Yes he is making a bomb
>>265745705is this some odd japanese reference relating to cats paws or something?
>>265759749Try saying>Ore wa nikyu nikyu no mi no nikyuku ningenoutloudThe point it's just that it sounds silly and it's hard to say
>>265760470>nikyu>nika
>>265745705I just realized that's the same drawing of a cat that gets used when little kuma learns about the fruit too
>>265745523so is this the first time we saw observation haki being used without referring to it as mantra?not including zoro cutting steel against mr 1.
>>265746067what's going to happen tomorrow?
>>265746067Thank you for posting.
>>265746067Can't wait. This is the last time Zoro will ever be cool
>>265746294personally I think Kuma wasn’t handled well this last arc. Part of his appeal as a character up to this point was only having a vague idea of his motives and backstory, having it all explained really spoiled him as a character for me.
>>265748275I agree, he should just have stopped responding instead of resorting to namecalling
>>265745934>A tittle you clearly do not deserveThis sounds like Foreshadowing
>>265746027bisoromi blast
>>265746027I remember reading this shit for the first timethe tension in this arc is enormous, second only to Sabaody
>>265746293They might be clueless about the full extent of devil fruits.
>>265768738It just keeps going, you think you're finally in the falling action after Moria passes out but nope.Oda's Wild Ride.
>>265746113Robin is (was) a morbid person who secretly likes cute things.
>>265754450Nah we see him and Ginny living together and he take away the pain of those meddling kids.
>>265745482they're s cute, bros
>>265745934wow, kuma is sassy
>>265766693I hope it is.
>>265745358Vivi, one of my favorite nami faces.
>>265746067>people just pooping off the Sunny wherever they please Thanks I hate it
Some fruits make their users into WMDs and others just turn their users into GiraffesKinda fucked up
Chapter 485: Straw Hat Pirates - Pirate Hunter Zoro
RE-ENTER
...!
https://youtu.be/nUBWp89ATE8
>>265781762Fucking ICONIC.
End of Chapter.Tomorrow: Piano
>>265781810Thanks for dumping!
>>265779428>Underestimating the power of the GiraffeYour mistake, buddy
>>265781053>>265781097>>265781141>>265781182This sequence goes so fucking hard
>>265781007>>265781053>>265781097>>265781141Kuma TANKED that explosion.>>265781406Cool character development.>>265781515>tossing aside his swords because he's going to dieAlso cool.>>265781561>shaking>>265781762Fuck, I love being a Zorochad.>>265781810Thanks, OP.
>>265745819Did Zoro's swords always make a 'Z' in this attack?
>>265781762KINO
>>265781810Thank you OP.
>>265781810Thank you for posting.
>>265781762PEAK
>>265783674I don't think so but I'm not sure.
>>265781762I wonder if they ever talked about it. Does Luffy know what Zoro did?
>>265781445So Zoro would die for Luffy's dream, and sanji would die for Zoro's..?
Op was very early today
>>265781810Thanks OP for the daily OP!
>>265788304Sanji keeps it a secret at Sabaody, so I think nobody but them know.
>>265788481Indeed, it is safe to say Sanji is gay for Zoro and is subordinate to him.
>>265781321hold on a second...fake beam can't melt steel bars
>>265781321>But I am nothing like your friend FrankyHe is totally like Franky though
>>265781515>I'll be put to shameNo? What is he talking about? Just do what he was told to do.
>>265788737Can men be tsundere for one another
>>265781182>>265781406>>265781445>>265781478>>265781515>>265781662>>265781762Peak zoro, has not yet been surpassed.
>>265790225And never ever will be, Zoro is such a bore nowadays
>>265788481An important part of Sanji and Zoro's relationship is that they actually do respect each other a lot. Zoro reminded Sanji how important his dream is, even if he'll never admit it, so I think on some level he respects Zoro's dream more than his own.>>265789181It's an excuse
>>265788551Maybe it's an imposter.
>>265789232Why not?
>>265781182SHISHI SONSONKINO
>>265790397>so I think on some level he respects Zoro's dream more than his own.I think it's just a part of his nature to be self sacrificial. You can see it in baratie where he was willing to abandon his dream just to make it up to Zeff.
>>265788481>>265790397I was gonna say what >>265793219 said, at this point Sanji truly would give up his dream for the sake of the dreams of any one strawhat because to him everyone else is simply more important
>>265781364man, this looks as much like vegapunk as that pic of the four emperors.
>>265781616this is another sequence done super well in the anime.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXXTOKClXbU
>>265788705also brook knows too>>265781762https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAtZoIFW2UwThis is Zoro's peak.What are your peak moments for each strawhat?For me:Luffy: either standing solo in front of all the admirals at marineford, or finally mastering imbued conquerer's hakiZoro: This moment.Nami: Standing up to UltiUsopp: His friend Sogeking igniting the flag at Enies LobbyChopper: Standing up to HogbackFranky: His fight with Senor PinkRobin: I WANT TO LIVE or her taking Sanji's place against Black MariaBrook: breaking Big Mom's photo of Mother CaramelJimbe: Donating his blood to Luffy after his Hody fight
Sweet, only 627 plus some yet unreleased chapters to go
>>2657817620 lasting negative consequences for this seriously undermines arguably the best chapter in the series
>>265781762>another filler chapter where nothing happens>>265781810Thanks for the read, OP
>>265780956>Nothing happens: the chapter yawn.
>>265781445It's funny that this chapter is in the week where Sanji is facing a gorousei
>>265793777You forgot sanji
>>265794230We are.So Close.To The Brand New Chapter!Start me Up!
>>265794230Not too long until we reach the end of pre-TS. Damn...
>>265781662In hindsight, this alone tells me Oda knew Kuma's story by this point. Considering what follows and the sequence of events, there's no doubt in my mind Oda knew Kuma was who he was, including worshipping a deity of liberation.
See you tomorrow, strawhat anons.
>>265793777Massive respect for Brook but honestly, he's come through in clutch so many times. Getting the rubbing, taking down Jiola in one move, bringing the salt this arc. He's the goat.
