Alright, it is Wednesday and I am gonna post the fifth volume of Ranma 1/2. Feel free to react or comment on any panel, though I appreciate if image replies are not used during the dump. Feel free to discuss anything Ranma 1/2 related after the dump.Previous thread: >>265714463Despite the OP image, I am using the latest Viz localization which does not feature this cover exactly as it is a 2-in-1 edition. Due to image limits, I will be dumping chapters by original volume. Be aware that some of the larger images have been edited to be lower quality due to image size limits.
Volume 5. The Volume where everything goes downhill.
Here's the cover for the 2-and-1 cover. Obviously matches the original.
This is a fun chapter cover in the context of the story.April 27th, 1988. Author's note: "The next issue will be a double feature. The fourth work in the Mermaid series. Please read the book and prepare for it."
>>265834607This chapter hits the ground running in an unusual way.
>>265834649Everyone's favorite creep.
>>265834555>triple fivesYeah we're fucked. Sorry OP
>>265834668Gosunkugi apparently became a bigger part in the anime. I like his role in the manga, but I can see it being a bit much if he's around all the time.
>>265834741Not a crime (probably a crime).
>>265834770Furinkan usually has a note whenever this ritual is referenced but it isn't here this time for some reason. It is called the "ushi no toki mairi" or the "ox-hour shrine-visit". It is intended to lay a curse on target (represented by the straw effigy). Ranma's has his pigtail, which is fun. It is normally done around 1-3 AM. Anyway, this tendency I think got exaggerated in the anime.
>>265834929Ranma's friendly classmates appear to not have changed. Still our Saotome/Koisuke lookalike and the glasses guy.
>>265834512Yo, OP. Catgirl Ranma best Ranma.
>>265834958Joining forces? >>265834697>>265834555I think I get what you're referring to, but while the change is a bit stark, I do think Ranma is still pretty good throughout.
>>265834649This feels oddly pornographic with the face censors
>>265835015Negotiations were brief.>>265834984It is a popular look.
>>265835051Close enough, right Soun?>>265835017Definitely part of the voyeur aspect. Though I don't know how it actually relates.
>>265835110Hence the cover (appears to be another shot of his). I love this.
>>265835140Honestly, these chapters are full of wonderful gags because the players involved are insane.
>>265835184I thought these were rubber, but the frog gives a sideeye on this page and on the next, the snake hisses so this is pretty intense. Gotta love the earthworm with the goofy eye. And a random starfish.
>>265835226Hisss.
>>265835252I don't think is Gosunkugi's only Scream pose (Edvard Munch).
>>265835341End of chapter. Apparently, VIZ couldn't translate whatever that sign says.
This issue also had another part of Mermaid Saga in it ("Dream's End"). May 4th, 1988. Author's note: "A: After this chapter staff member Nakano-san becomes independent. Thank you for your long period of hard work."I tried my best to figure out who she is referring to. Based on this, I assumed it was one of her long term assistants, but I can't seem to find who this is. Doesn't help that Nakano is apparently a ward in Tokyo Rumiko lived in.
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>>265835817Cool sweater.
>>265835833More untranslated sides.
>>265835925Bit of phonetic accent with "minnit". Which as far as I know, is pronounced the same way as minute.
>>265836010Hah, P-chan.
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>>265836065
>>265836097Nabiki's particularly exaggerated laugh adds a fun bit of variety. Also, man, lotuses show up a lot in these sorts of panels.
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>>265836151So tubby.
>>265836173Secret revealed! Gotta love the over the top crying. Soun lives an interesting life.
>>265834741>Gosunkugi apparently became a bigger part in the anime.Honestly I feel it's the reverse. Sasuke takes up a lot of the roles he plays in future arcs, partially because the anime introduced him so late.
>>265836207Cat-fist being a translation of "nekoken". "Ken" is "fist" but is often used to mean "attack" in martial arts stories. This is good translation nonetheless. And yes, Genma is insane.
>>265836312Hmmm.
>>265836385Where did they get all these? Also, I love the big ones Kasumi has. >>265836265I will admit, I'm not very versed in the anime obviously.
>>265835140One of my favorite gags
>>265836427End of chapter! I love how she gave him cat eyes here.
This cover is largely unrelated to the chapter. I think Rumiko just liked this qipao design (or cheongsam, I never knew the difference). May 11th, 1988. Author's note: "A: Managed to survive GW Progress. I'm looking forward to the Hanshin Tigers match at the Tokyo Dome in mid-May."No clue what GW Progress refers to. Sorry. Based on context, it would be a sporting event, but it could be anything really.
>>265836610One of those kendo guys has an unusual form.
>>265836668See, the cover outfit shows up. For this.
>>265836704Oh no! Akane!
>>265836719I love that this "plan" ostensibly worked.
>>265836749Akane got chibi face here.
It's over. OP has fallen.
>>265836772A lot more untranslated stuff. So, Tanuki tend to have stuff written on their tokkuri (sake decanter) and passbook, but it isn't always these characters. At least at a glance. I also have no idea what the bottom box says.
>>265836961I love how ominous this is. Those are not the usual eyes Rumiko draws for cats.>>265836942Sorry, I was researching the tanuki statues to try to figure out what the kanji said.
>>265836999What's this? Also, kitties.
>>265837089Bleep blorp. It conveys the idea well enough, but it is so odd that I can't help but be curious what it originally was. Also, this chapter is full of great moments.
>>265836999It's no big deal OP, I was just poking a little fun.
>>265837133Aw, they like him. Also, whenever animals do a reaction shot like a biped, it makes me laugh. Like most of the cats are reacting normally, but two are just being tiny people.
>>265837182Yeah, that probably wasn't the easiest to get and transport.>>265837141I sometimes get lost trying to find explanations for stuff. It is always the worst when I end up taking a while and still don't have an adequate answer. I managed to draw the kanji on the Tanuki's bottle and it apparently means "sprinkle" or "spill", which... doesn't really make much sense honestly. I could not draw the kanji on the passbook.
>>265837240I specifically thought of this page when we talked about how unusual it was for Kasumi to be voicing dissent early on. By now, I guess she's used to everyone being crazy. This page is tremendously funny child abuse.
>>265837276Aw, poor kitties. They're innocent!
>>265837312Akane's really cute here.
>>265837312Look at that neck! That tiger is built as hell.
>>265837345End of chapter. Uh oh.
>>265836207titty!
I forgot to check the titles like I do sometimes. The last chapter was 猫地獄への招待, which apparently means "An Invitation to Cat Hell". I guess VIZ thought it was too wordy. While this one is 猫拳パニック, as in Cat Fist Panic (Neko-ken panikku). VIZ sometimes translates cat fist into Cat-Fu. Get it? Kung Fu? Cat Fu?May 18th, 1988. Author's note: "A: Thanks to you the book Mermaid Forest is popular. As the author I am also very happy."Mermaid Forest (which nowadays we call Mermaid Saga in English) is wonderful.
>>265837496This is obviously a reference to the "maneki-neko" or beckoning cat. These are actually Japanese, but they are pretty popular in Chinese communities so we often think they're of Chinese origin.
>>265837575Cat geyser.
>>265837605No sane people involved in this arc. Kuno operates at a different level. Also, "holy cats", good job VIZ. You think it was like this in Japanese?
>>265837629More motion circles.
>>265837656Blinding speed.
>>265837699The power levels are pretty high.
>>265837738:3
>>265837756That second panel shouldn't be this cute.
>>265837771What is Genma's sack for?
>>265837817That's a lot of catnip. Cats can't overdose, but they might puke if they eat too much.
>>265837276Respect for not just copypasting the cats.
>>265837887I guess the bow is just to make up for Ranma's speed.
>>265837950
>>265835015>>265835817Man... Godai really let himself go...>>265836749Gurl.... Akane really let herself go...
>>265837974Kitty snuggles.
>>265837991Kitty smooches.
>>265838016End of chapter! Ranmaaaaaa.
Pretty cover. May 25th, 1988. Author's note: "A: Thank you very much for the many applications for a new assistant. For the time being I'll cut it off."
Good evening, do you know where I could find Kolkhoz HS' martial rhythm gimnastics ring?
>>265838074I always find it funny whenever a photo in story matches the panel exactly.
>>265838092Oh hi! >>265838082Wait a minute!
>>265838149I don't know why this was chosen as their entrance. I guess Ryoga just followed Gosunkugi under.
>>265838252Everyone's mad!
>>265838267I wonder what Gosunkugi contributed to the beating.
So today is worst duck's entrance with Ranma being brutal to Akane (as usual)?
>>265838315
>>265838335Cuties! >>265838322Yeah, in a bit. Lots of stuff this volume, honestly.
>>265838322>So today is worst duck's entranceHe's not a duck until his second appearance.
>>265838363Hmm.>>265838393Oh right, I forgot.
Akane sucks
>>265838435I forgot about there being a package.
>>265838471Oops.
>>265838491Yup, yup, yup.
>>265838513I guess the bells are just tied to the fur?
>>265838565It was Shampoo! Here's a bit from a manga extra where Takahashi discusses Shampoo:"Q: Shampoo’s cat form is cute.Takahashi: My childhood love of Osamu Tezuka’s Wonder 3 probably played a role in that. That story was about a rabbit, a duck, and a horse, but still, seeing such cute animals going on adventures the way they did was so thrilling as a child. I think the effect that show had on me is the main reason Shampoo ended up a cat.Q: And Ranma’s fear of cats makes the situation even better.Takahashi: Well, the reveal comes right after that story that introduces Ranma’s fear of cats, so there really wasn’t any other choice, was there?"
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>>265838631End of chapter. Eep. And I guess Shampoo figured it out that it wasn't just a disguise because of her experiences in China and seeing how the water affected Ranma?
Seems like this title (シャンプー再来日) translates more to "Shampoo Returns to Japan", but I guess it is a bit dull.June 1st, 1988. Author's note: "A: I'd like to go to the Tohoku region but my schedule makes it inconvenient."
>>265838565>>265838608I like how she gave it progression in the Jewsenkyo stuff... and then she reused it shamelessly for Mousse .... while reusing notes of Kyoko (CAT)'s design from Maison Ikkoku
>>265838608>>265838631>>265838671Ramna please, are you sure you are straight?
>>265838712Yeah, there's a manji in the wingding speech. Also, more lotuses and peaches and whatnot. Also, I love the way "the incident" is drawn.
>>265838756>IESLB
>>265838756So you think Ranma was just busting stuff while he was brainstorming his plan or what?
>>265838808She may not be very honest here.>>265838740I mean, he did react. Who knows what could've happened...
>>265838873Ranma grumpily adjusting her belt while flying is pretty cute.
>>265838756>So my fiance got mad with me because she found me in the bathtub with another woman. Frankly I didn't understand a word she said, so I smacked her and that was itThe second panel is gold still.
>>265838940A new face? So many characters.
>>265838966Takes some commitment to mail yourself internationally.
>>265838966Is this also the volume where they go to the beach?
>>265838940>>265838966ENTER Godai's Grandmother (FORMA DE BASTÓN CHINA)
>>265838991Haha, Akane foregoing the noodles. >>265838993Next volume.
>>265839053I love Nabiki's line here.
>>265839109How chaste.
>>265839145
>>265839179I completely forgot we met Shampoo's father. I guess he must be pretty strong despite his appearance? Shampoo doesn't angst as much as others about her curse, but I guess she does angst some.
>>265839216
>>265839053Man the granny has some real balls.
>>265839179>>265839216Do we even see shampoo's dad in the anime?
>>265839236
>>265839306Lots of untranslated text here. Some of them might be jokes! VIZ, please.
>>265839329End of chapter! Oh no!
Punnier. The original title (ムース襲来) translates just to Mousse Attacks.June 8th, 1988. Author's note: "A: I saw Hanshin vs the Giants at the Tokyo Dome. I was very happy Hanshin won."Rumiko Takahashi is a huge Hanshin Tigers fan and has done illustrations and little celebratory manga related to them over the years.
>>265836749great gag faces here
>>265839349Castañas Calientes brothers.... We are HERE!!!>>265839412Technically!!!! But first we mog Akane as girl
>>265839412The first appearance of Shampoo's bike. Now that Shampoo has employment at the ramen shop, Shampoo does a lot of deliveries on her bike. I guess that assistant nurse thing didn't work out after she left for China the first time.
>>265839486We really hit the ground running with the "nihao" and bike gag. How does she do it.
>>265839424I still have some from the last storytime
>>265839517The physical feats are still at an absurd level. >>265839526Saved.
>>265834512Thanks OP
>>265839552
How long until Soun's first proper oni face?
>>265834555Why?
>>265834555FUCK YOU
>>265839566Incredible.>>265839593There's a bit of a shift in tone. You may even notice it now, honestly. >>265839584This one (>>265718902) is pretty close, but I think it is a bit later.
>>265839645Furinkan has a note here about the glasses. Which I think isn't really necessary, but here: "Swirling glasses - The reason glasses are shown to have spirals in them in Japan is because of the term "bottle bottom glasses" (瓶底眼鏡). The glasses are said to look like the "bottom of a cow milk bottle" (牛乳瓶の底)."I mean, bottle glasses is a thing in English too.
>>265839698I believe Mousse's name is like Shampoo's, in that it uses Chinese characters to sound like English words. I don't know if his name is particularly Chinese sounding though.
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>>265839867I have some interview and extra bits from Takahashi about Mousse and Shampoo's great grandmother, but I'll relay them as we learn more about the characters.
>>265839915What an interesting metaphor.
>>265839932
>>265839593Because no marry Xiang-Pu would be my guess>>265839645But it's longer until the first actual shonen arc. Ranma vs Ryoga 2 Friendzone boogaloo is still built around comedy and gags>>265839698Similar to how a specific glasses frames are reffered the same, which are the one the Velma from Scooby Doo rocks>Velma>Short haired>Glasses nerdOh... I see it now...
>>265839947What is he gonna do with her?
>>265840117
>>265840168End of chapter. Cat's tongue thing is an expression in Japan specifically for sensitivity to heat well, on your tongue. Nekojita (猫舌) refers to people who don't do hot drinks, usually.
>>265839947Man I feel so bad for mousse. He's easily the least dickish of the rivals but he gets shit on the worst. At least ryoga gets a potty girlfriend at the end.
The original title (格闘演芸会) appears to translate to Combat Performance or something like that. This is close enough. Also, I believe Ranma is intended to look like a sukeban with the sarashi (chest wrap). June 15th, 1988. Author's note: "A: It was only for one night, but I travelled to a rural area of the Tohoku region. I want to go back one day."Hey, she made it.
>>265839989>Because no marry Xiang-Pu would be my guessMake sense
>>265840313Cool, a nice big double spread. >>265840276At least these random girls think he's cute. There's some trivia that may explain why Mousse gets the short end of the stick, but I think it is pretty clear as we go through the series.
>>265840244>Those bedrooms eyesUmm... Akane?
>>265840368I can't help but wonder why Ranma can't get some hot water on him and suffer through the pain with a fan or something rather than cold water. Like I feel he has had basically boiling water poured on him before. Or maybe his pressure point is messing with how his curse works? I don't know.
>>265840451I wonder when her actual name is stated in the manga.
>>265840276*Pity girlfriend
>>265840468Easy. Also, I saw a post (so yeah, very credible source, I know) that said Mousse's name with the Chinese characters is essentially Mu Tsu, which I guess sounds plenty Chinese.
>>265840501
>>265840534Hence the "magic show" in the English title.
>>265840545
>>265840581I'm just gonna post these manga extras and tidbits and remove the "spoilery" stuff. Rumiko said the following on twitter on October 3rd, 2021:"I wanted to introduce a hidden weapon master. Because he was going to be using hidden weapons he should have long hair and loose fitting clothing.It is the classic concept- a nearsighted person who takes off their glasses and he is that "handsome boy hidden behind thick glasses"."And this in a manga extra:"Q: Mousse is one of the rare characters who uses weapons…concealed ones no less!Takahashi: If we are talking weapons, Kuno has his wooden sword, and Kodachi her rhythmic gymnastics equipment. It’s not as if no one uses weapons. It’s just that, instead of someone who specializes in a certain kind of weapon, I thought I’d like to try a character who just uses a bunch of things. When I asked a martial artist about the use of concealed weapons, he said it would be a cowardly act. Because of course it would. At that point I knew that’s the kind of character I needed. It’s easy to attach a personality to cowardice, and someone like that would be willing to do anything in battle to win, which would create some really silly moments.Q: He sure does use a lot of weird weapons.Takahashi: Just like the weapons I had Shampoo use when she first appeared, I threw in some real Chinese weapons from the book I had into the mix as well."
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>>265834573Is this when female ramna gets red hair officially?
>>265840719To think, Ranma was objecting to wearing a gymnast leotard only a bit ago.
>>265840741
>>265840774Oh hey, it is Dr. Tofu. Say hello everyone.>>265840731Well, next volume cover female Ranma has pink hair, then the next one after that, she has brown hair and then back to black hair. As far as I know, it was always black on colored manga pages too. So, I wouldn't say that.
>>265840801A lot of people think that female Ranma is actually weaker than male Ranma (I guess because of some stats thrown around and applying some sort of realism regarding weight and musculature despite everything else in this series), but as far as I can tell, this gag about Ranma's female form having shorter limbs is the only thing in the manga that implies a disadvantage and it comes down to not planning for it.
>>265840868End of chapter. In case the Genma wasn't clear.
>>265840801Pretty sure this arc is tofu's last appearance in the manga.
The original title (猫舌やぶり) appears to be "Defying Cat's Tongue" or "Escaping Cat's Tongue". Though DeepL said "cat burglary", which was... interesting. This cover is obviously cool but what's funny to me is that I don't think Ranma wears this specific outfit in this (ie. martial arts pants and no top). June 22nd, 1988. Author's note: "A: I went to Ise Shima and ate at a seaside restaurant that had superb seafood." And yes, this chapter originally had four pages of red tint.
>>265840958goodAkane Simps must perish
>>265841032Ranma lost a lot of clothes in that one panel. Also, I love that you can see Mousse's swirls even if the glasses aren't drawn as opaque as usual.>>265840958I think so too, hence my little comment but I'm not one hundred percent sure and maybe there's a cameo somewhere? But yeah. Sorry if that's spoilers, but it is what it is.
>>265841066Good catch.>>265841035He's a Kasumi simp, goofball.
>>265841100Last page of red tint. What a remarkable coincidence.
>>265841035You want ranma to lose?
>>265841110
>>265841133Based on the last page, you'd think Ranma would be in the pants and no top like on the cover, but apparently Akane threw in a tank top too.
>>265841167Teehee. Also, another untranslated kanji. I like enjoy seeing the original, but I need to know, VIZ.
>>265841216
>>265840741>retardy face bunny
>>265841240Gotta love the outline. Lots of fun choreography.
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>>265841276
>>265841297Aw, she suffered through tear gas for him. Also, what exactly did Genma contribute to that? I guess Akane might've taken the kick to the head otherwise, but I assume he wasn't planning around that.
>>265841322What do you think Shampoo is thinking?
>>265841338
>>265841352Takahashi in a random manga extra about a different character:"Q: Because at the end of the day, Ranma’s a pretty cool guy.Takahashi: On the surface, anyway. He can usually accomplish what he sets his mind to, which is a lot more than I could ever say about Ataru in Urusei Yatsura. But of course that was one goal of mine with Ranma. I wanted to write a manga where the male lead was properly cool."
>>265841424End of chapter. Man, the pressure point stuff never made much sense at all.
>>265840868It's also weight. It's why most martial arts are sorted by weight classes. Two people of equal strength by different weight and height take blows differently. Having shorter limbs is a detriment. At the top class though, the difference while noticeable between males and women is small. A lot smaller than people realize.
June 29th, 1988. Author's note: "A: Big summer job (?) I'm working on my schedule for the summer and I'm sure I'll be working everyday."
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>>265841532So, from here on out, the whole "Ranma having two forms" thing isn't really a secret. The exact mechanics are probably not known to the student body, but they know that these two are the same person. I remember reading this and flipping back to the last chapter to see if I missed something, but I didn't. There was no real "big reveal" moment. This is also around where I feel the series stops going in as dramatic a direction as a whole. Takahashi mentioned in interviews that early on she felt editorial pressure to be dramatic, but it didn't turn out that way. "Takahashi: In the case of Ranma 1/2 I was told by the editor to make it more dramatic at the beginning. But that was just not something I could do (laughs)."So, we still have multichapter stuff much more often which sets it apart from Urusei Yatsura, but the tension from the earlier Ranma stuff won't be as focused on. Both with the identity stuff (which stops being a thing entirely) and the romance stuff (which gets less dramatic in some ways). >>265841509I mentioned weight! But I do find it funny for people to try to apply realism when Ranma shredded a gymnasium into paper with air strikes before.
>>265841696Okay, I said the identity stuff stops being a thing entirely and then I remembered another plotline and I need to amend my statement. It stops being a thing as much. It still gets used in some capacity. Also, Takahashi goes really goofy with Ranma's cat freakouts.
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>>265841778Speaking of goofy animal faces.
>>265841802The face problem WILL escalate once Nodoka arrives
>>265841802More untranslated text. Admittedly, some of them look really hard to read. Also, yeah, the noodle shop is called the Cat Cafe in English translations. It is apparently 猫飯店 in Japanese. Neko hanten. Hanten appears to mean restaurant, store, etc. But close enough and the alliteration is fun. Also, that's not appropriate, Shampoo.
>>265841907Hey OP are you planning on doing Inuyasha after this one is over too?
>>265841907They still haven't said Shampoo's great grandmother's name in the manga. Anyway, her exaggerated lips have become very beaklike.
>>265841907Prease understand; worst girl (aside short haired Akane Tendo) inhertited all the bad traits from Ibuki Yagami, it's expected from her
>>265841976Here's what Takahashi said about this character on twitter on October 24th, 2022:"Rumiko Takahashi: Since Shampoo is from a female-only tribe, the only strong, elderly person I can think of is an old lady-type. In my imagination, she is like a strong old lady in a Jackie Chan movie.Mousse rudely called [her] a "ghoul" and a "dried up monkey," but it was surprisingly fun to come up with the insults!"
>>265842072I don't understand how this helps, Ranma.>>265841967Yup, yup. That's the plan.
>>265842098Baste
>>265842098
>>265842121While looking up stuff about Shampoo's father, I found out that he works here. And yeah, look, there he is. He apparently makes the ramen. Also, I feel the floating thing is a martial arts movie cliche, but I can't get more specific than that.
>>265841907>Shampoo: Lesbian """"""sex""""""?
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>>265841967>>265842098>I will find out what happened in IY after the anime went from top tier to shit in motion midway + gigantic paddingI can't believe it...
>>265842230This technique was called 火中天津甘栗拳 which apparently translates to "Fire Tenshin chestnut fist" or "Tianjin Chestnut fist in the Fire" according to DeepL. So, Tianjin is a city in China and Tenshin is Japanese for transformation, but again, I don't speak Japanese and I have no real clue. Fan sources often have bad translation (kind of like what I am doing here), so I feel like I can't trust them.Anyway, VIZ made it a reference to the classic Christmas song apparently called "The Christmas Song" (I am not kidding) from 1945. I don't hate this translation. It is appropriate.
>>265842351End of chapter. It was nice to share this information. Also, Furinkan said this: "The "Chestnuts Roasting on an Open Fire" technique is called "Kachu Tenshin Amaguriken" (火中天津甘栗拳) in Japanese. A literal translation would be "Heavenly Roasting Chestnut Fist" due to the training method needed to master the skill. The English translation comes from the famous Nat King Cole holiday tune, The Christmas Song." I don't know why they included this in the notes of the next chapter and not this one.
>>265842351>火中天津甘栗拳Do you know what that is in romaji anon?
This is such a cute and goofy cover. Anyway, the title in Japanese was obviously not this. It was 夜店でバトル, which is apparently Battle at Night Stalls, like the ones at a festival or fair.July 6th, 1988. Author's note: "A: I watched Chang vs Ohashi's world boxing match. In the world boxing matches that I attend, the Japanese fighters always lose, why?"Furinkan's Note: "Takahashi is referring to the Chang Jung-koo (張正九) versus Hideyuki Ohashi (大橋秀行) rematch that took place June 27, 1988."
>>265842230>>265842351>>265842393CASTAÑAS CALIENTES SISTERS.... It's officially ON!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT-OQYjTZmE
>>265842456That's what you do in the garden. Also, Genma is pretty cute here.>>265842408Yeah, now I do. Kachu Tenshin Amaguriken.
>>265842408>>265842351It's like "Kachu Tenshin Amaguriken" or something close to that in romajiI think surprisingly for a '90s translation, the English anime dub actually just kept it (and the other attack names) in Japanese when actually being used in combat, even though it used Chestnuts Roasting a few times to refer to the technique in general. Not sure if the manga translation does that too
>>265842499Such speed.>>265842478Hah, that makes sense. I was wondering what you meant. Really appropriate.
>>265839566>>265839645Man this Shiryu ripoff is looking gre--->Latam dub has Mousse with the same VA as James from pokemonBasado and kneel to the glorious guajolotón Macías
>>265842499>>265842535Thank you
>>265842538Even Soun is afraid!>>265842535Nah, VIZ usually translates everything. Just how they roll. Though not nearly as much nowadays. I get kind of lost by all the Japanese terms for various yokai used in Mao.
>>265842607I love Soun.
>>265842535I think the anime used the Japanese phrasing for when the characters call out their attacks and use the English version when describing it. I remember something similar with the shishi hokodon and bakusai tenketsu.
>>265836999Rumiko was always great at horror, she just settled more into romcoms with the occasional horror designs.
>>265834770it's actually perfectly legal to photograph somebody in public as they have no reasonable expectation of privacy. you can even be a creep about it and walk away clean as a whistle
>>265842652I feel like Takahashi discovered she could just draw girl Ranma like this and is using every opportunity to. Also, in a neat bit of trivia, the old Korean version of Ranma 1/2 actually redrew a lot of art including this page to have more Korean style dress. They also cut off Ranma's pigtail in every shot because it apparently was against school regulations for guys to have long hair. I'll post the scan later.
>>265835017it's supposed to
>>265842785This game always seemed odd to me.
>>265842852Surely you get a good rate on these in bulk.
>>265842681Depends on the country IIRC. inb4 only America counts
>>265842878It very clearly isn't fair (though piranha are apparently not dangerous to humans and are quite timid in actuality).
>>265842852Is that one of the kids from MI?
>>265842941Find inspiration everywhere. >>265842681>>265842915Good to see some law enthusiasts with vested interests in even the most irrelevant of laws.
>>265842983Love that you can see the bites.
>>265843035I don't know why Journey to the West would have such a strong presence in a haunted house (nor do I know if there's a dragon in it, but I'm no expert).
>>265843079
>>265835394i think it says "keep off grass". the second pair of kanji are definitely 禁止
>>265843108
>>265843142Can't expect your opponent to play fair.>>265843120Hah, that's pretty funny.
>>265843079Someone should remake DB with Goku having that specific expression... I think it could add a complete diferent dimension to it, I have a hunch
>>265843079There is a dragon in the main group but he's pretty irrelevant since his main purpose is being the literal horse for tang sanzang (the monk)
>>265835686nakano is a pretty common surname in japan, and an assistant talented enough to get a name mention can still vanish into obscurity. maybe she got married and became a homemaker, maybe all of her oneshots got rejected and she lost faith in herself
>>265843161End of chapter, end of volume. The Phoenix Pill arc continues. Feel free to use the thread to discuss anything Ranma 1/2 related, though try to keep anime fanservice scenes to the minimal, I know how often Ranma 1/2 threads hit the limit due to those. Feel free to reply to any page or panel or commentary. I have some extra stuff I'll be using to bump the thread here and there.I will be returning on Sunday to dump Volume 6. Also, I completely forgot I was supposed to dump Hidden in the Pottery and it is way too late to do it today. I will do it next time, I promise. Sorry!
>>265843246Isn't next volume the arrival of HIM and Romeo and Juliet?
Ukyo /ss/>>265843246Thanks OP.
>>265843328I think Romeo and Juliet is the same when Ukyo is introduced so you'd have to wait a couple more.
>>265843437>Why, yes! I do sing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcYKuG9Ceys at karaoke nights the weekend's parties with my bros. How could you tell?
>>265843812>This video contains content from Viz Media, who has blocked it in your country on copyright groundsLame
>>265836772CUTEkane the ADORABLE
>>265835925black banner just says tendou dojo, white wall scroll says "iroha" which is the japanese version of "ABC"
38 volumes of this? I'm not feeling it bros. Not liking the art. Not crazy about the cast. Maison Ikkoku drew me in despite the contrivances and drama frustrating me.
>>265836010ranma says ばっきゃろ, which appears to be an idiosyncratic pronunciation of the more familiar 馬鹿野郎 (fucking moron). the translator was trying to capture the percussive nature of ranma's line
>>265844307The format of the story changes about twice throughout it's run. About a quarter way through it becomes more of a comedy than a romance drama, and near the final third it becomes more of a battle shonen a la Inuyasha.
>>265836385this is not uncommon if you cook a lot and have a habit of not reading the entire recipe once before starting
>>265834607Ad for new Shonen Sunday stuff, including the Mermaid Saga entry that came out later.
>>265840244What did she mean by this?
>>265846047Akane will molest her later that night.
>>265835686Ad for cassettes featuring Ranma. >>265844163>>265844492Thanks for the info! >>265844307Well, the good news is the drama won't last much longer. But I will admit, it isn't Maison Ikkoku. Every Rumic manga is its own thing for better or worse.
>>265835686This issue also had an ad for Mermaid Saga's first collected volume and apparently the wideban volume that first had stories from it collected.
Ryoga and Ranma-chan need to have HATE sex now.
>>265838074This issue had an ad for Ranma shirts.
I find really interest how the manga has canon black hair while anime installed red hard fem Ranma and how good it works in both ways despite being different characters but somehow they feel like the same just fine>>265844307*35 or so. There's like 3 volumes or so of bttle shonenshit
>>265838074>>265846717And also a Genma volleyball.
>>265838074This issue also had an ad for the Mermaid Saga volume. I feel like I shouldn't be posting all these, but I sort of started doing this and I may as well finish.
>>265843246Thank OP
>>265834741>>265836265I've always wondered WHY the anime added Sasuke and rewrote Gosunkugi into a final season transfer student. I mean, I don't Gosunkugi really adds much to the story, whilst Sasuke has a fun dynamic as Kuno's bumbling ninja minion who's also the closest thing the Kunos have to a voice of sanity, but even so, it's a very weird decision to uproot one character and replace him with an entirely different one!
>>265838712Some Ranma merch for some summer sale in this issue.
>>265839216>>265839271We never see Shampoo's dad in the anime, and he only gets one more appearance in the manga, in one of the panels during Ranma's first duel with Mousse, so he's one of the great mystery characters of the series. But, funnily enough, there was a sidescrolling beat 'em up game for Ranma 1/2, and Shampoo's dad was the final boss of it, and he was the hardest damn sumbitch in the game, spamming fireballs and multiplying into three independent clones as you ground his health down.
>>265839349>>265840244It's funny that the anime chose to display the effects of the full-body cat's tongue so much quicker than the manga did, but I guess with the differences between chapter page count and episode run-time, they kind of needed to reshuffle the order.Also, something to consider: Nabiki outright says that the lingerie she sticks Ranma in the anime version is hers. We never see her wearing it in the anime, but... well, that's gotta be a little awkward for Ranma. And yet, I think Nabiki would look good in it, don't you?
>>265835140Incredibly cute male Ranmas
>>265840117You do have to wonder... would this mean that if Mousse had beaten Ranma in that first duel, MOUSSE would have been expected to marry Akane? Because I can honestly see both the two of them working out and Soun rolling with it because, hey, he's still got two more daughters who need marrying off, so two strong martial artist sons in law is better than one!>>265840276>>265840368Least dickish? He's the one who runs around throwing bladed weapons in public despite having terrible eye-sight, and openly declares he'd happily cheat his way to victory over Ranma.>>265840468Doesn't get mentioned in the manga until the Love Pills Bracelet story, which is after Happosai gets introduced. I think the anime actually delays it a little longer until the timetraveling mirror filler episode.
>>265838712>>265847477Some Urusei Yatsura and Maison Ikkoku stuff advertised in this issue.
>>265847401The funniest thing is when the manga has a couple of chapters that were perfect material for Sasuke to be in
>>265840868Honestly, the whole "forgetting his reach shrinks as a girl" thing is kind of stupid considering all the people we've seen Ranma kick the ass of whilst a girl in the manga and the anime up to this point. Feels a little shoe-horned in, honestly.>>265842351>>265842393I've seen a lot of arguments that technically, what Cologne gives Ranma isn't so much a technique with the Amaguriken as a training method, and that it's the anime's fault for imprinting the idea that "Kachu Tenshin Amaguriken" is a specific named "flurry of fisticuffs" move, as the anime has Ranma liking to shout that when he does his volley of punches attack.
>>265841446Honestly, I think the anime version, where they found out about the water sensitivity first, and then they went to Tofu for his counter-pressure point technique, only for Genma to fuck things up by doing his usual tackle Ranma into the fishpond schtick, was a better flow. This just makes Tofu seem like a really bad deus ex machina.Also, fun fact; say goodbye to Tofu, because he won't be showing up again! Takahashi decided he was a pointless character and never uses him again after this page. The anime takes pity and lets him come back for a couple of filler episodes.
>>265848105>fun fact; say goodbye to Tofu, because he won't be showing up again![Sad news]: Doctor Tofu EXIT the manga. Thanks, doc! We will miss betty until the arrival of Checkers
>>265839412This issue had an ad for Volume 3 of Ranma 1/2.
>>265840313This issue had another ad for Ranma clothing. >>265847840Yeah, I don't know what the plan was there.
>>265841515This chapter's issue had an ad for cool Ranma sweatshirts. I want one.
>>265835686Obviously, Mana got the front page treatment, but you can also see Ranma and Genma on the cover of this chapter's issue.
>>265841032Ranma made the cover of this chapter's issue as well in a summer look.
>>265842785Here's that Korean localization version of this page. Interesting, right? Glad we don't have as much of this sort of thing nowadays though. Anyway, I need sleep. Let's hope this thread is up in the morning. Otherwise, see you guys Sunday.
>>265850011No-pigtail Ranma is actually really cute
>>265850011Wonder how the Koreans handled the Principal Kuno stories, considering their whole thing is he wants to cut every student's hair super-short and the students literally riot in result.
>>265843246Thank you for posting.
>>265834512Are Ranma volumes shorter than Maison Ikkoku? I noticed I read through much faster.
>>265841509>>265840868it's also muscles, but clearly the strength of the characters in ranma has nothing to do with their musculature.It's really just a joke about ranko having shorter limbs
>>265842681in most of europe it's not. It's probably only legal in america and other similar countries with no concept of rights
>>265853996Ranma volumes are 8-9 chapters. Maison Ikkoku are 10-11.
Ranma!
>>265846724I always figured it was done for the viewers; having Ranma's female form have red hair makes it immediately recognizable which form Ranma is in. It also works to make Ranma using his girl form as a disguise a little more plausible, at least when he's doing it on people who aren't familiar with his cursed form, and makes the Kunos' obliviousness to the two Ranmas being the same person seem slightly less ridiculous.
>>265859012I don't know. I prefer the black hair. They were described as looking alike after all. It is what it is. I just have to deal with all the fanart having red hair.
post ranma tiddies
>>265859012>>265859346I like how the black hair in the manga sort of adds more continuity between the two forms and makes it more impressive how Rumiko's art so clearly distinguishes them just through the different faces and body types (yeah there's also the hair shine on the female form but that's easier to miss)But I also like how the red hair in the anime is a bit more exotic and maybe helps add to why so many people are into her, plus it kinda gives the female form her own identity/personality unique to that form, or something. I can see arguments for making the forms too distinct as antithetical to how Ranma's meant to be the same person either way, but I mean hearing the different voices for each gender in the anime kind of adds to that impression already compared to the manga.I probably like the red better because it just feels like it became iconic enough for the black to look off in colored images, but it's pretty interesting how the original manga seems pretty committed to all the major characters having black hair.
>>265837496DICK STATUS>MUH
>>265854561>America out NOWHEREYou are brown.
>>265859994I hear they originally planned on having both forms voiced by the same person. I kind of wanted that too. But honestly, of all the things the anime messed with, this is pretty minor. Rumiko doesn't tend to go wild colors unless she goes supernatural for the canon hair colors, yeah.
It is funny whenever I reread a Rumic series, it jumps higher in my mind compared to the other ones.
>>265866818Do you mean in general or Ranma 1/2 specifically?
>>265867307In general. I still think of Urusei Yatsura is my favorite, but I always think "Man, Ranma 1/2 is so damn good, I want to tell more people to read it" whenever I reread it. Same with almost every other Rumic series.
Choose a man.
>>265868464Ranma>Ryoga>Mousse>Kuno
>>265862831Didn't the original ranma US dub use the same voice actress I was pretty sure that's why they cast a women in that role.
>>265869401Doesn't seem like it.
>>265857567Is a cute!
>>265868707Why Ranma?
AAAAA I WANT TO GET RANMA PREGNANT
>>265875768Seems like a recipe for disaster.
>>265875768Don't you even think about it.
I think Ukyo and Nabiki would be into casual groping once in a relationship. Like Ranma suddenly putting his hand up their shirts to grope their boobs or shoving his hand down their panties.The main difference is that Ukyo would be all embarrassed about it while Nabiki just melt into it.
>>265877953>>265878092AAAAA TOO LATEEE
>>265875768Why are you gay?
>>265878427>10 months laterWhat kind of nightmare is ranma birthing?
>>265878427>that image
>>265878427>There more of that porn than there are Shampoo pornFucking bullshit
>>265875452I just find him the most likeable out of the four. Kuno's funny and Ryoga and Mousse are nice but they just don't have that same charisma that Ranma does.
>>265880787It really is. Shampoo deserves far better than she gets.
>>265882426It's insane how rare porn of Ranma dicking down Shampoo is.
>>265837629a stammered 猫柱, which is sounded out as "nekobashira" in furigana. 柱 is a pillar, but also apparently the counter for gods and nobles. it would seem the joke in japanese is that the basketball team is saying "a bunch of cats!" but in ridiculously solemn language, hence the "holy cats!" translation. pretty good, i think
>>265839698it's fitting that americans call them coke bottle glasses, a testament to the branding prowess of the coca-cola corporation
>>265839802yup, and it's 沐絲 if anyone cares
>>265841907飯店 specifically means a chinese restaurant in japanese. the usage is different, the more japanese way would be 食店 (shokuten) or 食堂 (shokudou). i think it's similar to the theater/theatre split between american and british english
>>265842208akane looking /fa/ af
>>265854561>taking a picture of any public place with people in it is illegal in europeimagine being this dumb
>>265836173Ranma can't handle pussy
>>265883316>>265883124>>265882845Gotcha. I didn't realize because when I tried translating it, all I got was store or restaurant or something. Makes sense now though.
>>265850011>Immediately following the end of the Japanese rule of Korea, on August 15, 1945, South Korea enacted the Law For Punishing Anti-National Deeds (반민족행위처벌법), later revised in 1948, in order to prevent their citizens from associating with anything Japanese related. This was followed with many other laws over the decades restricting the broadcast and distribution of records, videos, CDs, and games from outside the country. While the laws did not specify any specific country, the intent of the laws was primarily aimed at Japanese mediaapparently south korea only began easing up on the censorship in 1998 (!) and it's STILL illegal to broadcast japanese music and TV via terrestrial signals
>>265868464Kuno > Ranma >>>>>>>>>>> Ryoga = MousseRyoga's actually really cute visually but him being so willing to just exist as a pet pig brings him way down.
>>265836749Dotty Ika guy would have a field day here
>>265883713I can see why that may have come in effect in 1945, but that it lasted that long is surprising. I just noticed they also edited the art of the festival itself too, which is odd.
>>265883343Remarkably, though it looks like just her summer uniform.
>>265868464Ranma >>>> Ryoga >> Mousse >> KunoRanma may be a mischievous trolling shit who hates losing and has a lot of self-esteem issues, but he's fundamentally a decent, reliable guy. He's incredibly loyal to anyone who he thinks is even remotely loyal to him, unless they have been actively screwing him over, and even then, he will usually do the noble thing and help them out.Ryoga is pathetic. He spent at least a year chasing Ranma over a stupid bread duel, got cursed, and then immediately blamed it on Ranma. That Ranma turned out to genuinely be responsible is besides the point; he didn't know that until weeks later. There's also the P-chan thing, which is just its own flavor of pathetic. But buried deep under the melodrama, the entitlement issues and the desperation for affection is a guy who's genuinely loyal, brave and honorable.Mousse is a scumbag. He's open and unrepentant about this fact. He literally *boasts* that he is happy to win an important duel by rigging it in his favor, and his entire thing in canon is that he's determined to murder Ranma to get Shampoo "back", ignoring that Shampoo didn't want Mousse YEARS before she ever met Ranma. He's less of a bumbling idiot than Ryoga, but Ryoga's consistently shown to be more honorable than him.Tatewaki is a moron. He's arrogant, entitled, and self-absorbed to the point he literally never improves despite being the series' resident punching bag because he's too full of himself to admit he needs to get better. He's literally just Shutaro Mendo without Mendo's facade of being a respectable person covering up his faults. He's also hands down the single biggest pervert of the four male characters, as shown by his inability to pick between Akane or "the pigtailed girl" and his constant horndogging when presented with the latter. Out of the four, only Kuno has literally tried to rape the girl of his affections.
>>265884118well, when you think about there would have been a significant number of koreans who either outright collaborated with the japanese or did very well under their rule who'd have a vested interest in a pro-japan korea. plus they would have still had substantial political and economic power. the regime in the south had to contend with them plus the north which established its legitimacy on the communist party having fought the japanese during the entirety of the colonial period. in essence, the policy was "korea only, nothing dprk and nothing japanese" to shore up support, though this did paradoxically turn the south's culture into a hyper-cartoon version of the USA
>>265885269>only Kuno has literally tried to rape the girl of his affections.Really?Also some girls are pretty damn close to trying to rape Ranma too.
>>265837362>>265837575Oh no, Ranma's an otherkin now
>>265838037There's gotta be a quota for this "Ranma no baka" shit.
>>265838740Don't stick your dick in Chinese crazy.
>>265886823Hey, that was her first kiss.
>>265887149She laughed at Ranma for getting kissed by a guy against his will
>>265838037Akane is so annoying.
>>265846047Genuinely Akane is only "nice" to Ranma when he's weak and she can exert some degree of power over him
>>265887897Hot
>>265838873I always love Rumiko's heavy-lidded/done with this shit expression for women.
>>265840451I imagine the pressure point makes the pain unbearable even for Ranma
>>265841696By this point, the student body has seen Ranma switch forms enough to figure it out. Or they think he disguises himself as a girl for kicks.
>>265843246Thanks for the dump
>>265843246Thanks OP
>>265887563kys shampoofag
>>265867559I'm new to Rumic stuff but I've had that feeling with other stuff.
>>265838955it's pretty funny when you put it that way
>>265891403Cry harder, even you don't like Akane
>>265878306A shame Ranma smut is beyond dead
Should we talk about fanfics again?
>>265896148Any recs?
>>265897023I'm not that anon but most of the fanfic I like involves Ranma being forced to be a girl and I don't think that's popular here
>>265898344Why are you a homosexual, anon?
>>265898344>I don't think that's popular hereWhy do you say that?
>>265899170Because this isn't /lgbt/.
>>265898940I'm a woman who likes to self-insert as unwillingly locked female Ranma, in a vulnerable state and an identity crisis, getting fucked and ideally impregnated by the male cast (No Akanes Allowed)On the same note, I think there's also similar stuff that could be done with Herb, either with HER stuck as a girl (with male Ranma?) or him in male form with locked female Ranma, but there's not a lot of that because he/she is a manga-only character for now. I think I actually prefer the anime, but this arc's obviously up my alley. I've never read a fic involving any of these scenarios with Herb but there must be something I just haven't seen. Female Herb especially is cute>>265899170>Why do you say that?I mean people definitely think girl Ranma's hot, but-Locked Ranma might come too close to feeling like trans/identity politics stuff for anons, even though that's not why I like it-Even if people like female Ranma, they might not want to see her get knocked up by the male cast-Even I have to admit it's a shitty way to treat Ranma and might feel "disrespectful" to the character, both in-universe and out. While part of the appeal for me is the psychological/identity issues it'd cause, with Ranma starting in a bad mental place and eventually reaching acceptance or even satisfaction, I can see how people would find that too disturbing or mean-spirited or whateverIt's weird because I don't like in canon when the characters (read: Akane) make light of Ranma's feelings about the curse as just a casual joke. I guess part of the appeal here is Ranma's angst about it being taken seriously when it's in a situation he can't escape.Also controversial fic rec:https://www.fanfiction.net/s/4944651/1/The-Iris-TalesThis story's well known probably, but checks off most of what I wanna see in this scenario. I think the first chapter is probably the best written and can stand on its own if anyone just wants to read about Ranma getting locked and spiraling down
>>265899973Herb fits the criteria, seeing how much of a chip on his shoulder he had about the whole affair.
>>265887897Like all modern women
>>265900141Herb had a chip on his shoulder about a lot of stuff
>>265902623To be fair, so would I in his position
What's everyone's favorite Ranma song?
>>265904206More important who's the best girl and why is it Kodachi?
>>265859736No horny, bad anon!
>>265904206I'm personally a fan of chikyuu orchestra.
>>265904206I like the Neko Hanten one
>>265904206I only have ever heard the one from the first anime. It is pretty fun.
>>265906616It's a good one to be fair
What's everyone's favorite Ranma move?
>>265839179>>265839271How tf do you guys conclude that this is shampoos father? In the context of this scene this dude can be a random visitor or a friend of the chinese guide and both are eating the stuff shampoo just delivered to them.Like you guys said he doenst appear in the manga later on, so it must be a some random guy....Never the less, there is potential for a father figure of shampoo to add aditional spice. (If he is/was shampoos father) Maybe in early drafts Rumiko made him THE actual everyones favorite old lingerine lover. So after more thoughts Rumiko maybe said, that a father who would potentionaly hunt for his daughters underware was a little too..... lets say..... risky. But it looks like Rumiko still wanted the old pervy char and voila mr. throwing fire cracker was born.
>>265909144boah baka me, in the next page he clearly says "my daughter". So never mind ...
>>265839216Cologne really shot herself in the foot more than any other character in the manga with that move honestly.
>>265909230>>265909144Yup. And here he is again:>>265842164That trivia about his game appearance is pretty surprising, honestly.
>>265909851why not going further? Maybe Ranmas "weakness" was actually born from Rumikos desire that it doesnt evolve to another Lum situation. By giving shampoo the only form that Ranma actually dislikes her Destiny was written that she will not become Ranmas bride, ergo Akane and ranma can have a happy marriage in the future...
>>265909983this is so stupid. he even works in shop with them and is never adressed. This is a major mistake from Rumikos part imo
>>265910148>Maybe Ranmas "weakness" was actually born from Rumikos desire that it doesnt evolve to another Lum situationEh, I don't think it would have stopped anyone to really push for Shampoo to take over.
>>265910237Hmmm, you're probably right.
>>265912297I don't see the issue
>>265899973You're into some weird shit, lady.
>>265909230RIP anon
>>265913080Like all women
>>265913080>>265915095There are worse fetishes, as long as there’s no genderspecial crap it’s not different than your average gender bender hentai where the MC becomes a sex addict.
>>265915904My version is funnier
Hot take: I don't like Ranma and Ryoga's ki blasts
>>265917105Does it offend you because it is a ki blast and thus somehow less realistic than the other absurd stuff they pull off or is there something specific about their ki blasts that bothers you thematically?
>>265917279I just don't like how they look, they look more like shockwaves than anything else and despite being supposedly two different moves, they look the same.Also the ki blast battle between Ranma and Ryoga looked retarded.And finally, having two entire techniques just to scream 'This is the character's primordial flaw you're supposed to laugh at them for' is just not funny to me, it's WAY 'in your face' to the point it get obnoxious.My complaints have nothing to do with realism, Ranma can summon tornadoes after all and I do like that move.
>>265917502Kinda funny to think that despite competing in a lot of bullshit martial arts, Ranma doesn't actually have all that many special techniques.
>>265840741>>265840924>>265841066>>265841110At the age of 10 this scene was very interesting to me
>>265917502Ranma really doesn't use the ki blast move very much in the manga after that story. Ryoga uses his more often. Like the story points out he just doesn't have the character for it.
>>265918575That's not really relevant to me liking said ki blasts or not tho.
>>265917851Yeah, it's weird. He's got the rapid-fire fisticuffs move (which only the anime treats as a special technique of the "calling your attacks" variety, dubbing it the Kachu Tenshin Amaguriken), he's got the Hiryu Shoten Ha and all the one-off variants he makes, and he's got the Moko Takabashi. And technically the Umisenken school, but he refuses to use that again.
>>265919061>And technically the Umisenken school, but he refuses to use that again.The entire Senken thing was retarded, Genma feeling guilt for the first time in the entire manga because some dumbass killed himself out of sheer dumbassery made no sense.
>>265919061>>265919234To be fair, the Umisenken is kinda shit for everything except countering the Yamasenken
>>265917502I think it is pretty funny, honestly. I always thought of Ranma's tornado move as his signature move anyway.
>>265919499It shows up a bit late to be a signature move
>>265918392Why?
>>265919487That's what I've said! The Umisenken's got that stealth technique, but that's really all it has; 90% of what we see Ranma invent for it* is literally just counter-techniques for the Yamasenken. Against anybody else, the Umisenken's a pretty crappy style. The original version made by Genma is probably better, but we have no idea what that version looks like.*Because, keep in mind, Genma didn't actually TEACH Ranma the Umisenken, he told Ranma that it could be used to beat the Yamasenken, told him the basic philosophical underpinnings, and then beat Ranma up with the Umisenken's most basic bitch move, then Ranma invented all the other moves we see on his own from scratch.
>>265921773>then Ranma invented all the other moves we see on his own from scratch.I think we're supposed to see it as Ranma figuring out all the true moves just from that.
>>265921773I'll never understand why so many fics treat the Umisenken as some absolute 'I win' overpowered mode for Ranma. Sure it was cool how hard he countered the Yamasenken but those moves really don't do shit outside of just that.At least the Nekoken was legit impressive on an upfront level AND was legit used as a power up in like one niche situation IIRC (could be mixing it up with a video game).
>>265922513>fanficsthere's your answer; they come from people that never understand the core of the original. Specially since it's a practical joke but they see only muh fighting
>>265922673I mean, I genuinely like the Ranma fights so I can't really criticize them on that.Some get way too serious about it tho, you'd think they were writing for Hokuto No Ken instead of Ranma 1/2.
>>265922799A lot of fanfic folks want to make comedy stuff serious and gritty
>>265923110I'd say it's a shame but given the average level of humor in fanfics, it's for the best.
>>265887185She comforted him about it while nobody else took his feelings seriously.
>>265923411But also laughed at him
>>265923441That was part of comforting him
>>265922799>Some get way too serious about it tho, you'd think they were writing for Hokuto No Ken instead of Ranma 1/2.Then missed the point big time. I mean Kitty-fu is literally Ranma's version of drunken fist, even the actual serious arcs of ranma never went past being just serious a tad so never had actual fighting choreography
>>265923617>I mean Kitty-fu is literally Ranma's version of drunken fistDrunken Fist is cool tho
>>265923456Okay I just looked the scene up because generally I don't like it and Ranma/Akane interactions aren't what I like the series for. She:>slaps him in the back of the head when he's sitting around depressed and taunts him for leaving himself open>makes fun of him for "pouting" at being kind of sexually assaulted and says he's not a man>laughs at him (yeah he told her to do it, and it might be a translation thing since while I have the Japanese version I don't care to look it up now, but the phrasing "if you think it's so funny..." implies that yes, she does think it's funny even if she's trying to be comforting)>she says it "doesn't make any difference" if Ranma gets a first kiss he doesn't want, but then acts like a total hypocrite and constantly slaps Ranma around when the same thing happens to her, except it was clearly with no malice or anything on Ranma's part>makes fun of him for "letting himself" get kissed so easily and says he hasn't trained enough (Akane would probably ask a rape victim what she was wearing)>continues to make fun of him for leaving himself open>says he wouldn't have the guts to kiss herAnd yeah yeah, I know, canonically they're meant to be attracted to each other and this is just a more extreme version of tsundere antics with sexual tension etc, but typically Akane acts way worse to Ranma than he does to her and this is just one example since it happens constantly and never really lets upI know I probably sound like some '90s-Ranma-fandom whiny Akane hater and I honestly don't want to, I really got into Ranma with the impression I would like Akane and DID at times when she was interacting with anyone but Ranma, but she just kinda sucks dick. Once I noticed that she's only """nice""" to him in situations where he's somehow weakened/humiliated and she's only kinda getting off on being the stronger one in the way she treats him, I can't NOT notice itI admit pic related is dumb; it's just the first Akane Hate one I found
>>265923818>canonically they're meant to be attracted to each other and this is just a more extreme version of tsundere antics with sexual tension etcSometimes canon does a shit job portraying stuff or just has bad elements, the Akane stuff is part of that category.
>>265840868>>265841509>the difference while noticeable between males and women is smallThe difference is massive. It's smaller than what a lot of people here believe but still bigger than what the average person expects. The greatest professional female fighters lose to amateur male fighters in the same weight class.
>>265888502Rumiko is great at drawing cute women. It's no wonder some people speculate that she's lesbian.
>>265923818>I know I probably sound like some '90s-Ranma-fandom whiny Akane hater and I honestly don't want toSometimes the haters are right.
>>265922513Mainly because the Umisenken gets this big build up and, on the surface, it looks really impressive - super speed and virtual invisibility isn't anything to sneeze at, after all! It's only when you look closer that you realize the techniques proper (because a lot of people mistake the stealth move for the entirety of the Umisenken itself) are largely made up of technique-counters to the Yamasenken's techniques.In contrast, the Nekoken is literally called out as a pointless move that only an idiot would try to teach someone. It's extremely difficult for Ranma to enter the berserker state even when he actively WANTS to go into it, and once he does go berserk, he's left with the mental abilities of a cat. Which makes him an erratic, unpredictable MORON. Let's not forget: in the manga, KUNO immediately figures out he can beat Nekoken-Ranma by throwing him a toy to play with. That's like... one of the most embarrassing defeats in Ranma's history.
>>265924140>Let's not forget: in the manga, KUNO immediately figures out he can beat Nekoken-Ranma by throwing him a toy to play with. That's like... one of the most embarrassing defeats in Ranma's history.I wouldn't call 'convincing the animal to not eat you' as a victory honestly.
>>265835394>>265843120it says 立入禁止 (tachiiri kinshi "entry forbidden")
>>265921587There was something deeply compelling about the removal of Ranma's clothing. I was quite moved when the final scrap was torn off.
>>265923646Well, yeah obviously but Ranma is heavily inspired by Jackie 4Chan movies and he pulls that in a couple so it was natural. What I miss in Ranma was the comedic quintessential chan movie slapstick of furniture stuff, it has the idea but it was never quite there, I feel.
>>265836961>>265836999>>265837240>Sorry, I was researching the tanuki statues to try to figure out what the kanji said.the book says 大福帳 (daifukuchō "account book"); the bottle says 酒 (sake "sake")the box says 放送委員 (hōsō iin "broadcast committee")
>>265924780>>265924319Thanks!
>>265923818I honestly do think that scene works fine in context and her behavior is "comforting" in her usual tsundere way. By treating it as less than a big, Ranma sort of gets over the whole affair. And yes, the whole girl vs. boy thing is a part of it.
>>265926148To me it just feels like her shitting all over a guy who already feels like shit, but I mean, I recognize a huge amount of people seem like to Ranma/Akane and Akane in general even if I honestly don't get it at all.
>>265926191also yeah meant "seem to like" if that's not clearAkane just does too much shit to Ranma that to be would be a dealbreaker re: liking her character if it only happened once, except in this series it happens too many times to even keep track of. I know I sound pretty whiny but I actually like pretty much everything else about the series, so usually it's easy to forget about Akane for chapters/episodes at a time
>>265924465lol
>>265917502Tornadoes are cool.
>>265834555>cursed with tripsDamn.
>>265840868>As far as I can tellYou saw him barely hurting Ryoga during the loving rod arc as a female to smashing him easily as a male. Also remember him having trouble lifting giant rocks as a female swap and easily lift it and throwing it. >>265841696>Apply realismWhat you said made no sense.Just because a character can do amazing feats of power doesn't magically mean things that are applicalbe in real life,like male having great physical strength advantage compare to males, suddenly doesn't happen.
>>265924751>What I miss in Ranma was the comedic quintessential chan movie slapstick of furniture stuff, it has the idea but it was never quite there, I feel.To be fair, there's a reason Jackie Chan is a unique legend, it's EXTREMELY hard to copy that style in a way that even slightly look good while funny.
If you could make a new move for Ranma, what would it be?
>>265932736touch of death
>>265933080Elaborate
>>265933485some incapacitating technique consisting in a swift strike to a weak spotthat results in extreme pain
>>265926287These arguments always seemed like bullshit to me. The vast majority of Akane's violence is either due to Ranma's own provocations or misunderstandings where her actions would be understandable. Of course that's not exactly the case here but it's important to remember that this is the exception, rather than the rule, and it's not like Ranma hasn't also shit on her out of nowhere.
>>265934669>Akane has massive overreaction and is retarded but it's Ranma's faultThat's not how you make a character compeling.
>>265934669Honestly as of these early chapters (I've seen more of the series than this, manga and anime, I just don't remember every single time Akane's gotten pissed later because it happens so much) I still don't find her actions understandable the vast majority of the time. Like I understand getting pissed in certain situations when Ranma insults her, but just fucking punching him crosses a line and it doesn't help that the earliest chapters give it too-realistic consequences, like Ranma losing consciousness or Ranma going to a doctor who comments about the actual lasting physical injuries that Akane inflicted, that take away from it just feeling like "haha funny slapstick" the way it might feel with other characters' violence. In this volume especially we just see her punch first and ask questions later, or not at all, a bunch, and often in a really hypocritical way.And like I don't at all have a problem with characters in a comedy being violent or hypocrites, but the thing is it's clear we're meant to be on Akane's side or find her cute/likable/sympathetic and to me it just doesn't come off at all because I'm on Ranma's side more often than not. At least the rest of the cast's bullshit isn't presented with the expectation that you'll be on their side.I was watching a first-season episode recently and it had one instance of Akane Violence that felt justified... and it was a fucking filler episode, so not in the manga that's supposedly the most sympathetic portrayal of Akane.>Ranma and Akane are talking for some reason about the episode plot>Ranma randomly shits on Akane for being ugly and untalented and then sings a fucking original song of his own composition about Akane being a fatass>Akane gets pissed off and throws him into the wall before storming out of the room>Ranma's kinda hurt/annoyed but clearly not badly and gets up a few seconds laterThat at least had Ranma going way over the top; it felt deserved. But in the manga it usually doesn't.
>>265935083>But in the manga it usually doesn't.Because it's written by a woman so it's way more biased toward the girl and less funny. The author clearly didn't get why Ataru getting shat on worked but not Ranma.I don't know what's up with women comedians and suddenly losing 90% of their talents the second a man / woman interaction shows up.
>>265839329the signage on the building in panel one says>[...] 承ります (uketamawarimasu "humbly receive")>[...] 小・看破 ([incomplete word] · kanpa "seeing through")>[...] 種塗装・レタリング ([incomplete word] tosō · retaringu "painting · lettering")>野坂 [...] (nosaka [...] "nosaka [...]")the signage on the telephone pole in panel one says>火木土 (ka-moku-do "tue-thurs-sat")>燃えないゴミ (moenai gomi "non-burnable trash")>水曜日 (suiyōbi "wednesday")the signage on the telephone pole in panel three says 吉川ふとん店 (yoshikawa futon-ten "yoshikawa cushion store")
I think Kid Goku and Ranma would make a great duo.And ironically, I don't think Bulma would care much for Ranma beyond the initial 'he's cute'.
Hot take: I'm not into crossovers where Ranma get exclusively with girls from the other show.
>>265931510RIP
>>265868464Ranma>Ryoga=Mouse>KunoRanma is just a really good MC, one of the best Takahashi has ever done. He's hilarious and weird and mean spirited and constantly over the top but still cool and sympathetic at the end of the day.Ryoga is the most fleshed out character in the manga after Ranma, he's stupid and pathetic but also funny and likable deep-down. He really should have committed to his pity girlfriend by the end, but you could say that about almost every Ranma character. Mousse I just personally like a lot. He was an instant favorite of mine from his first chapter, I really dig his design and his ridiculous fighting style and even though he's at least as big a jerk as Ryoga is if not more he gets shit on so much by the manga and even the fanbase he still feels like an underdog. I like that even late in the manga when it goes full shonen adventure his entire fighting style is still being a huge cheater. Also his unrequited love for Shampoo still feels more real to me than Ryogas equally unrequited puppy crush on Akane. Kuno is Kuno, he's fun in short doses but he has zero depth not only as a character but even as a fighter which is why all of his chapters are pure slapstick. He's also not even meant to be slightly likable, his role is to be a punching bag 90% of the time and he's good at that much.
>>265937675I like the concept of a kendo dude in a fighting manga but beyond that Kuno is a nothing burger IMO
>>265839486the character on the telephone pole is 文 "text;" i have no idea why that word would be on a telephone pole, especially in isolation>>265841216the character on the whatever-that-is in panel three is 闘 "conflict;" it's not a word on its own>>265841240the character on the shop in panel one is 囍 "double happiness;" it's more of an ornamental symbol than a proper character, though, and there aren't any words written with it>>265841907the character over the front door is 猫 (neko "cat")the black sign by the alley is mostly illegible; the fourth character is probably 町 "town"the sign on the telephone pole says 梅田 (umeda); i can't read the rest with only half of each character visiblethe character on the telephone pole is 文 "text" againthe white sign by the alley says [...] 度１でも火を消す習慣 ([...]do ichi de mo hi o kesu shūkan); i can't figure out the first character, rendering the first column unintelligible, but the second and third say "habits to put out fire">>265842098the taped-up sign in the first panel says 生ゴミは朝に出してください (namagomi wa asa ni dashite kudasai "please put kitchen trash out in the morning")>>265842208the doormat says 熱烈歓迎 (netsuretsu kangei "ardent welcome")>>265842499the character on sōun's fan is 祭 "festival">>265842785the visible character on the horizontal stall sign in panel two is 焼 "roast"the vertical signs say たこ焼き (takoyaki "takoyaki") and わたあめ (wataame "cotton candy"), though the き and たあ aren't visiblei think that's everything
>>265935295>>265939542Interesting
>>265939542Thanks, translator anon.
>>265933080ded
>>265931648I found the pages in question, in chapter 243 and pages 144-145 of the 2-in-1 volumes and while I understand reading it that way, I don't really think that was the intention. I feel he simply changed to boy form to show that he's being serious rather than it actually being a significant powerup. I don't know which boulder pages you mean. You may be 100% correct, but I feel more people would try to force Ranma to fight in girl form if it was that big a deal and textually, it seems vague.
>>265935083I feel like she's supposed to be cute/likable/sympathetic DESPITE her violent outbursts.
>>265939542>>265935295Thank you so much for this! I save these threads as a sort of archive, so I hope you know your work is appreciated. I almost want to make an annotated version of these, but I've never typeset or done anything like that before.
