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Why is the magical girl genre filled with so much miserable suffering porn?
There's something distinctly sadomasochistic and unsavoury about the compulsiveness with which millennial culture churns out images of (often young) characters in states of traumatic dissociation and terror. All of this stuff suggests to me a real lack of appropriate emotional boundaries on the part of the creators of these shows- older kids television (with varying degrees of success) often dealt with 'serious issues' but there was always an implicit sense of adult stability and order, both in the world of the show, and metatextually, in the making of it.
With this stuff, however, I get the sense that the creators of these shows identify with their child characters in an inappropriate way- I get the sense that they identify with these characters in terms of their fear and vulnerability, and tend to project their own actually very adult fears and/or traumas (derived from very adult situations) into them.
There's no sense of a healthy border between the child world and the adult world- this border is supposed to be invisible from the point of view of the child audience but nonetheless present and maintained by the program- instead this audience is being exposed to and made to carry emotions and anxieties of the adult creators, who appear to conceive of their vocation primarily as a therapeutic exercise for themselves.
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I'm surprised this wasn't copypasted from reddit
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>>282160734
>There's something distinctly buh bubhbuhbuhbuh *Normie moralizing*

Shut up, faggot.
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>>282160734
Demographic shift. Modern mahou shoujo aren't made for little girls anymore.
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>>282160734
Anon you’re supposed to want to fuck the cute anime girls. What are you even babbling about.
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>>282160734
Being a little girl is suffering
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>>282160734
The genre is reacting to the state of civilization which has fallen from the point where magical girls were essentially the church backing governments. The Hellenistic milieu gives us the clearest example of this where from the establishment of the oracles in the Bronze Age to their destruction by monotheism those drugged up teenage priestesses were handing out orders to kings and telling people where to found new cities. So important that you have to steal an oracle if you want to try to get things done without the support of their system. Shinto practices used to be suspiciously similar and the focus was individual village level priestesses rather than organized temple institutions, a historical tension depicted in Princess Mononoke. Coinciding with the erosion of magical girl culture is the rise of abusive patriarchy, another factor to which the genre is reacting in modern times.

Precure is what the world is supposed to be like, but our civilization is more like Madoka.
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>>282160734
It isn't. "Dark" magical girl shows are few and far between.
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>>282160734
Madokas Megucas a merley a metaphor for male traits. Hardly any girl is a convinced social darwinist or roleplays as Shaow the Hedgehog to save someone else. Even Sailor Moon is more for grown up women than girls. The question is are magical girl shows is even for kids? Maybe pretty Cure and Doremi....
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>>282162525
>Madokas Megucas a merley a metaphor for male traits
Which is based, all anime girls should be like that. That sets them apart from the faggotry of 3DPDs.
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>>282162525
Doremi is legitimately too real in some of the things they cover. I would have felt very uncomfortable if I had watched it as a young kid. Not the 4kids version mind you.
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>>282160734
it's just the flip side of "hopes and dreams"
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>>282160734
You interpret this as adults projecting their feelings onto kids but it’s really the opposite, these works are created by people who were forced to grow up too fast. The kids being forced into adult situations is the point, that’s what our own world does to kids every day.
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>>282160734
I like seeing naive girls suffering
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>>282164844
I like seeing disillusioned girls healing
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>>282162525
>Even Sailor Moon is more for grown up women than girls.
Only the manga and it’s Crystal adaptation, 90’s anime on the other hand was for the Precure audience.
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>>282160734
>made to carry emotions and anxieties of the adult
And now you know why religion is bad.
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>>282160734
Because the alternative is the cookie cutter majou shoujo from <90s
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>>282162804
And this is why people call it "tranime".
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>>282160734
>Why is the magical girl genre filled with so much miserable suffering porn?
Because the entire premise of the genre is unrealistic wish-fulfillment tripe, so there’s nowhere else to go but deconstruction and subversion if you wanna tell an actual decent story.
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>>282160734
In Sailor Moon, it's just because the author had a dark sense of humor and thought it was funny (she later married Togashi).

In Cardcaptor Sakura's case, it's because CLAMP were basically the early 90s Japanese equivalent to Tumblr artists. That's why they were so gay and filled with dark shit.

In DoReMi's case, it's because it was a throwback to older Japanese kids' anime, which were dark as fuck.

When those are the three foundational pillars of modern mahou shojou, miserable suffering is baked into the genre's DNA. And that's not even getting into the pre-Sailor Moon stuff like Minky Momo or Majokko Tickle (the latter was Go Nagai's attempt at a magical girl anime aimed at very, very young girls. You can probably imagine how it turned out: Cute 99% of the time, then suddenly gets super real out of nowhere once in a while).
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>>282165590
>In Cardcaptor Sakura's case, it's because CLAMP were basically the early 90s Japanese equivalent to Tumblr artists. That's why they were so gay and filled with dark shit.
CCS doesn’t really get suffering until the Clear Card arc, until then it plays the genre very straight.
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>>282165509
Yeah, it's mostly seething roasties using that term.
TERFs trying to attack trannies will always be funny because they're literally just as bad as the trannies themselves. Their only attack against them is "duuuurrr they're men" because everything that's actually bad about troons are things dykes and feminists do as well.
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>>282160734
>>282160966
Funnily enough, old magical girls shows for little girls were far more degenerated and fucked up than modern dark magical girls for adults.
The average tranny complaining about madoka being too adult would have a stroke watching card captor.
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>>282165755
>TERFs
>Troons
You have to go back /pol/
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>>282165820
CCS isn’t so much dark as it is just ultra perverted and fucked-up, because CLAMP.
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>>282165826
/pol/ didn't invent any of these terms
You have to go back to /lgbt/
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>>282165871
Just kill yourself, tourist piece of shit
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>>282165871
>You have to go back to /lgbt/
Do you even know where you are? You’re in a Magical Girl thread, this is the gayest fucking genre in the entire medium.
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>>282165935
But you're the one crossposting

>>282165959
Nah, megucas hate fags
Go back to the yurishit containment board or thread
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>>282160734
Isn't Madoka based on Kamen Rider? Like a lot of magical girl shows have super hero influence.
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>>282166031
>He thinks the entire genre is Madoka
Sailor Moon and Cardcaptor Sakura are held up as two of the most iconic LGBTQ franchises.
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There was some anime where jet fighters fought alongside mahou shoujo and I can't for the life of me remember which one it was. Can someone else remember?
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>>282166031
You’re an obvious tourist because you talk like every other brain rotted piece of shit from /pol/ and /v/ with an entire encyclopedia of terms that have nothing to do with anime. The only thing that occupies the empty space in your skull is hating queer people so you have nothing to contribute to this board.
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>>282160966
>Modern mahou shoujo aren't made for little girls anymore.
Early ones weren’t either, Studio Pierrot Magical Girls were made for the lolicon otaku crowd, and of course there was also Go Nagai’s Cutey Honey which was always intended for teenage boys and was a direct influence on the Sailor V and Sailor Moon mangas.
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Trying to break down demographics like that in the first place is kinda retarded imo.
All anime is made by adults for adults. Kids have no money, otakus and fujos will always be the biggest spenders.
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>>282166091
Vividred operation?
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>>282166431
>All anime is made by adults for adults.
The Kodomo genre exists, which a lot of Mahou Shoujo happen to be apart of, so you’re wrong there.
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>>282166068
By delusional retards maybe

>>282166151
You talk like tourists from /lgbt/ and /u/, hardly better
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>>282166458
That's the one, thanks a bunch Anon!
I'd really like to see more of this - the military actually doing things other than jobbing.
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>>282166606
>delusional
Yep it’s a tourist all right, tell me you haven’t watched or read Sailor Moon or Cardcaptor Sakura without telling me, or maybe you only saw their censored christcuck dubs.
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>>282166031
>megucas hate fags
Homu is such a raging faggot that she came a devil, what the fuck are you talking about?
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>>282166431
It’s literally an industry geared toward children and teens, the consumerist goldmine demographics. That’s why everything has grade and high schooler characters. That’s why even shows like Gundam and NGE are made to move plastic. There are some niches that get filled out by adult fans but when they try to fill seats in a theater in Japan they are going after teenagers.
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>>282166654
Minor plot points in some series don't make the entire genre about your mental illness

>>282166726
>She gave herself an obviously male-appealing succubus design, that means she's gay
Why are homosexuals the lowest IQ people on this planet? Is it because of the brown skin?
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All magical girls think Hitler was right and wish the holocaust was real
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>>282166758
>Minor plot points
Two literal lesbian Sailors who are main characters and Sakura’s brother dating one of her guardians who was her former crush who her current bisexual boyfriend was also crushing on while her own best friend is secretly in lesbian love with her are hardly “minor plot points.” The entire fucking theme of CCS is that “all forms of love are valid” and CLAMP literally stated in an interview they wrote CCS so that people would become more tolerant of all the different types of love and families.

>don't make the entire genre about your mental illness
Both Sailor Moon and CCS are the flagship titles of the genre and are the face of it though, they represent the entire genre and are what most people automatically think of when you say “Magical Girl.”
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>>282166963
It's minor plot points because nobody thinks of that when you mention sailor moon or ccs
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>>282166758
You don’t even try to hide being a tourist from /pol/ just throwing in random racism on top of the sexism. The only thing you do is shitpost about your favorite topics from that echo chamber.
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>>282166561
>>282166729
Adults are the main consumers of all those genres. The people buying precure and pripara merch are male autists. The people buying gundam merch are fujos. The people watching all those highschool and isekai anime are salaryman.
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>>282167006
>It's minor plot points because nobody thinks of that when you mention sailor moon or ccs
Again, maybe if they only saw the straightwashed christcuck dubs.
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>>282167010
>muh ism
go back to tumblr, retard. I'm not the one making nonsensical statements like "devil character = gay" when succubus designs have been a trope since before your mental illnesses were invented and are aimed at straight men.
You're the one who doesn't actually care about any of the series you discuss and just use them to do like other libtards on twitter and spam characters with lgbt flags backgrounds "duuurrrrr sonic would agree with my politics!!!"
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>>282167006
>>282167020
Pure tourist bullshit lol
Y’all have been really desperate lately, even things like blacked spam are starting up since the board has been pulled out of your grasp
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>>282166629
To be fair, even in real life the military does very little other than jobbing.
It takes a lot of contrivances to make them actually useful, specially in fiction.
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>>282167084
>complaining about tumblr and libtards on twitter
Tourist brain rot in its terminal stage
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>>282167084
>muh designs
Not the point, you fucking retard. But of course that's all you can go off of since you don't know the actual character.
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>>282167070
>straightwashed
You really need to kill yourself.
And no, no matter the country, not a single person instantly think of lgbt shit when they see sailor moon or ccs. They think of magical girls.

>>282167085
>accuses people of being tourists
>admits to trying to "pull the board out of their grasp"
Interesting
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>>282166179
>Early ones weren’t either, Studio Pierrot Magical Girls were made for the lolicon otaku crowd, and of course there was also Go Nagai’s Cutey Honey which was always intended for teenage boys and was a direct influence on the Sailor V and Sailor Moon mangas.
This. The genre now targeting men is simply it coming full circle and going back to it’s roots if anything.
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>>282167122
>Noooo you can't complain about me!!
Yes i can troon, lol

>>282167132
What IS your point then? Do you think every single devil character in media is gay?
And i know the character more than you do. As a matter of fact the author directly stated she wasn't gay.
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>>282167145
I’m not the one trying to do anything. Janitors have been trashing you scum as they should have been doing for a decade. Kill yourself back to /pol/, tourist.
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>>282167203
So you're admitting that the tranny jannies are trying to turn this place into a libtard echo chamber by censoring its actual userbase, and simultaneously calling us tourists?
Smartest homosexual everyone
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>>282167145
>Not straightwashed
What do you call shit like this then?
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>>282167237
You aren’t the actual user base, you hate anime which is why you come here to shitpost with these idiotic delusions.
The actual user base acknowledge the progressive messaging in anime and manga because they’re undeniable and constant.
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You are overthinking this SO much lmfao

Madoka Magica, which was using that suffering with a themathical purpose, was a cultural phenomenon and everyone is just trying to replicate the success it had. That's it. No pedophilic self-identification or anything. It's just usual capitalism
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>>282167300
>progressive messaging
It’s not that either and you’re just as much as a tourist as the anon you’re replying to if you actually think that’s the intention. It’s just fetishizing being gay for straight people, yaoi and yuri are fetish genres.
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>>282167284
Censorship or bad localization. "[thing]washing" is nu-male terminology

>>282167300
Calm down retard, i'm not the one who brought up "duuurrr tranime" and in fact this all started because i called out these people (anime haters) as the gay roasties they are, which you retards jumped to defend them.
>The actual user base acknowledge the progressive messaging in anime and manga
You are so fucking mentally ill it's unreal.
If you want "progressive messaging" in your media go watch western slop, it's full of this shit and that's why nobody likes it.
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>>282167355
Not like yuri or yaoi are popular genres either. It's a niche within a niche.
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>>282167145
>And no, no matter the country, not a single person instantly think of lgbt shit when they see sailor moon or ccs.
You sure about that?

https://xtramagazine.com/culture/tv-film/anime-magical-girl-quuer-215553
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>>282167358
You reactionary pieces of shit are always the tourists lol
None of you ever create new media and you can’t form communities because you’re vile trash no one wants to be around. It’s the same with video games, you aren’t the actual user base and original fans. You’re all posers who have to force your way in and lie nonstop to try to get your revisionist takes accepted as a new version of the subculture due to your exposure to mainstream manifestations of that subculture.

The simple truth is that anime has always been gay and communist. That’s part of what makes it so great and it’s exactly why you tourists will never be able to fit in. You get all triggered by what’s really happening in anime and manga so you have to come up with these delusional coping narratives about western influence when everyone knows that “woke” content in western cartoons were the direct result of anime proliferating in the west. The causal relationship is the other way round. But you all know this terrifying fact and thus the desperation to create an anti-otaku framework for the west to insulate people from the real ideals and values communicated by otaku artists. It’d be so much easier if you all just gave up and excepted that otaku media is legit conversion literature and rage against all of it instead of trying to create an animegate delusion of “new western influenced anime.”
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>>282167578
>it's the resident mutt libtard schizo
Nobody likes your kind, mr champagne socialist. You are not and never will be a otaku.
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One of the other ways you can tell that the reactionary tourists from /v/ and /pol/ are all posers is that the threads they spam to shitpost about popular shows is so focused on recent works. The FMA spam is one of the oldest shows to ever get talked about by the tourists. Even when they shitpost about NGE their focus is the rebuilds. It’s all knee jerk contrarian reactions to popular, mainstream series.
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>>282167660
Have you given up on posting screencaps of my posts because too many people agreed with me?
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>>282167464
>tranny schizo made an article in 2022
>this is somehow representative of the fanbases for shows that have existed for decades

>>282167578
>None of you ever create new media
We create the anime you consume.
Didn't read the rest, YTTL

>>282167838
You samefagging isn't too many people
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>>282168116
>implying it’s just one article
There’s more where that came from if you care to look.
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>>282168560
Why the fuck should i care what covid subhumans write?
Nobody reads that shit, and those shows have existed for decades without anyone obsessing over "duuurrr gay".
And not even all the shows listed have gay stuff in it, even minor. You yourself gave Madoka as a counter-example and it's on the fucking list somehow. Trannies like this just project their mental illness into whatever they can, they aren't representative of anything.
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>>282168627
Let me guess, you probably think the censorship the old dubs did like this >>282167284 was based don’t you?
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>>282168687
I don't watch dub, so i don't give a shit.
I think the error was marketing those shows towards kids when they were made for adults. If they weren't shown on kids channels censorship would be unnecessary.
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>>282168735
>they were made for adults.
>Sailor Moon 90’s anime
>made for adults
Yep, definitely a tourist kek.
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>>282168807
See >>282161064

Hell, the simple facts that sexual topics are mentioned proves it as well. Anime is for otaku.
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>>282168847
>sexual topics=adult
Americans are so sad
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>>282168881
Japs agree with this as well retard
Don't tell me you actually fell for the japs are pedophiles meme
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>>282168627
Why should actual otaku care what a tourist like you thinks? Every opinion you express is an outright lie or delusion and everyone knows it. You talk about mental illness as if your mind hasn’t been melted away to the point that you rant about trans people all day every day. You fail to pretend to fit in because you’re compelled like a hollow machine by programming that demands you spread hate. You’re instantly recognizable because your speech patterns have become so stained by the echo chamber you’ve been dipped in that everyone has seen a dozen pieces of shit who say the same things already. And it’s all laughably wrong to anyone who is actually part of the community and knows the absurdity of every narrative you regurgitate. That’s why you can only keep up the flimsiest of pretenses in an anonymous space like this where it doesn’t matter that everyone figures out you’re a tourist every time you post, you can just keep coming back fresh.
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>>282166629
IIRC, Strike Witches had some moments where the military helped the witches and didn't completely job, and Vividred was basically a spiritual successor to SW anyways.
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>>282168968
Trannies who write articles like this aren't otaku and neither are you
YTTL didn't read
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>>282169055
You’re a tourist lol
Just writing an article gives anyone more credibility as an otaku than scum like you who will never produce a single scrap of media or culture. You don’t even watch or like anime, this is all a game you do because you’re fighting in a culture war that says you have to pretend to be the victimized fan.
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>>282168847
What sexual topics were ever mentioned in the Sailor fucking Moon 90’s anime?
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>>282160734
Because adults started watching it
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>>282169134
>writing an article gives credibility
ok this is bait kek

>>282169143
Weren't you saying it has homosexuality
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>>282169270
>homosexuality is automatically a sexual topic and for adults
Then so’s heterosexuality yet I don’t see chuds like you calling for all the straight couples to be censored too hypocrite.
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>>282169270
Of course it does, that’s precisely how the otaku subculture was shaped through magazine writers and other forms of commentary from the community. Someone who watches, thinks about, and writes about anime is always more credible than a tourist like you who doesn’t even watch anime and gets all his talking points from an echo chamber of other people who don’t watch anime.
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>>282169372
Heterosexuality is normalcy, homosexuality is sexual deviancy. False equivalence fallacy

>>282169405
No, slop articles like this are only read by tourists
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>>282169424
>Heterosexuality is normalcy, homosexuality is sexual deviancy. False equivalence fallacy
Kay, doesn’t make a gay couple being mentioned or holding hands any more sexual than a straight couple doing the exact same thing though.
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>>282169448
Heterosexuality is not only normal it is necessary.
Homosexuality is a sexual deviancy and has no purpose.
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>>282169424
Fanworks are integral to the subculture, you’re a tourist who doesn’t participate in the actual community of otaku because all of your opinions are just regurgitated slop from an echo chamber of other tourists who hate anime
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>>282169448
Holding hands isn't a sexual act and isn't gay in any context
Characters being mentioned to be gay is inherently sexual, it's like mentioning a character is dating his pet, you indirectly mention a paraphilia.

>>282169508
Your gay slop "TOP 10 ANIME FARTS" articles aren't fanwork
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>>282169538
>Comparing homosexuality to fucking beastiality
Yep, it’s a Christcuck alright lol.

Did you know that there are gay animals in the animal kingdom? Yet no documentation of animals being attracted to humans. Homosexuality is genetic and a normal evolutionary mechanism to prevent overpopulation, not everyone is meant to be reproduce, deal with it!
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>>282169538
Actually collections are one of the defined forms of folklore which in this case has fans as the folk group. Your tourist whining is irrelevant because you’re not a fan and you don’t produce any lore, you’re an outsider.
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>>282169538
>Holding hands isn't a sexual act
Maximum tourism
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I just think Sakura and Tomoyo should kiss is all.
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>>282169681
I'm comparing paraphilia to paraphilia yes
And you're retarded, inter-species relationships happen among animals too.
And guess what, in both cases, they also breed with the opposite sex, because it's just paraphilia, not an "orientation" like the rape victim Karl Heinrich Ulrichs thought.
>Homosexuality is genetic and a normal evolutionary mechanism to prevent overpopulation
What the fuck are you talking about schizo

>>282169708
I didn't mention collections

>>282169745
The only ones saying holding hands is a sexual act are /u/ tourists though
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>>282169787
They should kiss me
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>>282169788
See as a stupid tourist from /pol/ you’ve now put yourself in the position where you have to pretend this board hasn’t equated hand holding with sex for longer than you’ve been alive.
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>>282169905
No, you're the only pretending anyone but /u/ tourists have ever memed about that.
And yes, i said memed, because even they weren't serious.
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>>282169788
>What the fuck are you talking about schizo
I said what I said, what do you think would happen if EVERY single person throughout human history reproduced? The world is already overpopulated enough as it is, now imagine if we didn’t even have the concept of homosexuality to even compensate for that.

Resources and even sheer space aren’t finite anon.
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>>282165525
it's always funny how deconstructionfags always torpedo their own arguments and usage of the made up term by their complete ignorance of genres
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>>282169787
>I just think Sakura and Tomoyo should kiss is all.
CLAMP hates you yuritroons and CCS made it clear by cucking the two lesbians that it isn’t for you.
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>>282169986
Overpopulation is a scam to get you to give more power to your government and weaken your race so that you're easier to control
And everyone reproduced before, the reason why more people died was because of wars.
If you're worried about muh too many people then just nuke africa, india and china
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>>282170061
>And everyone reproduced before
Not homosexuals or trannies.
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>>282170089
Those didn't exist until recently.
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>>282170105
>Those didn't exist until recently.
Bro’s never heard of Ancient Greece or Rome, Conservatard Muricans really do have 3rd world level education tier.
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>>282170136
But all ancient greeks and romans bred with the opposite sex and had kids. What are you even talking about?
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>>282170161
>But all ancient greeks and romans bred with the opposite sex and had kids.
How would you even know that?
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>>282170355
They have written records.
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>>282170393
>They have written records.
And I doubt you saw those records, or that the records had a list of ALL of their citizens having children.
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>>282170507
I mean you can go ahead and prove me wrong by providing an example of someone from those times being vocal about not wanting children and not being attracted to the opposite sex.
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>>282170393
Of every person who ever scored?
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>>282170561
See >>282170544
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>>282170061
>Overpopulation is a scam
I bet you think global warming and vaccination are a scam too don’t you anti-science retard?
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>>282165339
Season 1 literally ended with everyone but Usagi getting murdered
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>>282170592
"Expert" worship isn't science
Science is a method not a religion
It's something you do yourself, not something you trust a clergy about
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>>282170595
>Season 1 literally ended with everyone but Usagi getting murdered
Yeah, and angry soccer moms called up Toei to complain about how it traumatized their kindergarteners and they were all crying, forcing Toei to tone down all future season finales and never get that brutal or grimdark again.
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>>282170622
Yeah but the experts do the science and you don’t. It’s not a method with which you have any experience. You must trust experts because you’re too dumb to have your own opinions.

>>282170393
Including an entire genre of “tee hee I want to fuck that delicious boy servant” poetry
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>>282170544
People in ancient rome had to be forced by law to breed so clearly people weren't having kids.
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>>282170707
>the experts do the science
no
>you don’t
projection
>you’re too dumb to have your own opinions
projection
>Including an entire genre of “tee hee I want to fuck that delicious boy servant” poetry
written by people who had wives and kids

>>282170771
You're making this up
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>>282170790
You never use the scientific method. You are too dumb to ever research something and come to your own conclusion, which is exactly why you are an NPC who talks exactly like every other dumb cunt from the /pol/ echo chamber.
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>>282170790
Do some science to find the lex Iulia de maritandis ordinibus smart guy
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>>282170876
I use the scientific method constantly, you don't. You're the one who's unable to think for yourself or come up with your own shit because of your estrogen-filled brain.
Go ahead, tell me one opinion that's your own and i've never heard anywhere else.

>>282170937
>Temporary laws established when Rome was at its most degenerate and atheist, right before it got entirely converted to a brand new religion specifically because people didn't believe in anything anymore
Wow, that sure is representative.
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>>282171005
You’re a tourist whose foreign vernacular like saying estrogen filled brain demonstrates for everyone that you’re just another piece of shit loaded up with bullshit from /pol/. I have no reason to give you anything because you’re just a shitposting cunt who should get shot in the neck.
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>>282171101
shouldn't you be happy today instead of seething?
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>>282171101
I've only read a few of your posts, but you sound like a twitter transplant. You are not wanted here, faggot.
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>>282171101
There's a reason why i said that though
Testosterone is correlated with independent thought
Estrogen is correlated with being a follower
Like you, who believes everything the media tells you
btw, i wasn't even familiar with the influencer you just referenced until his death, just another proof that you're wrong about me having NPC mentality or whatever. I don't give a shit about ecelebs like this at all.
But it's funny that you're mentioning this death as some kind of victory for you when the most likely culprit is Israel, which your programming dictates you to hate
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>>282171179
Gatekeeping tourists is joyful community service. Do you know how hard I laugh when you post some bullshit that everyone can see is straight from /v/ or /pol/ while trying to pretend to fit in?
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>>282171220
Now that’s some pseudo-science lol
See the entire point is that otaku do not give a fuck about hormones and the only people who spout off rants about T and E are brain rotted losers from reactionary echo chambers.
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>>282160734
I think it's problematic that you're so retarded.
Japan will continue to make such anime. What's your point?
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>>282166629
Stretching mahou shoujo a bit, there's Senyoku no Sigrdrifa
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>>282171292
>reality is pseudo-science
lol
And otaku care about many things, of course we care about having independent thought and testosterone, otherwise we wouldn't be watching anime, which is a form of counter culture in the west.
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>>282171005
I accept your concession
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>>282171383
I accept your concession
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>We
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>>282171383
>>282171429
When people say this do you think they have the self-awareness to know that it makes them and whatever point they're making look completely fucking retarded
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>>282171374
Otaku media is counterculture in Japan which is why and how it’s suffused with progressive messaging lol
Funnily enough counterculture provides a perfect example of what’s happening with you tourists because neonazis appropriated the skinhead look from the antifascist punk subculture. None of you are gamers or otaku, you just appropriate the identities since you right wing parasites can’t create any culture of your own.
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>>282171472
No, they most likely don't. Which is why i usually say it back at them to make them feel retarded.
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>>282171483
>it’s suffused with progressive messaging
Do you think repeating this over and over will ever make it true? Because you're wrong.
"Progressive" horse shit isn't counterculture at all and it's 100% pushed and backed by western elites. You are useful idiots that do exactly what your masters are told, your "revolutions" are done entirely on their behalf, and will always result in things becoming better for them and worse for you and everyone else.
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>>282171563
What western elites are pushing yuri, yaoi and TS in doujin circles? Name them.
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>>282160734
Misery and suffering just come with deeper stories a lot of the time. The Japanese go all out when it comes to making stories about little girls. I realized this when reading some Illya earlier today. You don't get real story telling out of the Japanese unless it is centered around cute girls. But with those, they prove that they are very good and capable of doing it. It is the result of a culture that destigmatized this indulgence. They realized that cute girls make everyone happy and improve enjoyment. Every good artist full of passion wants to put one into their story. They feel no shame in doing it even if it is a bit "repetitive" or a special scenario has to be crafted around it. It is really no different than how the best Western stories tend to center around wacky characters.
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>>282171625
Black Rock
Crunchyroll
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>>282171639
Comiket was founded as an event to sell yaoi doujins.
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>>282171639
You don't even know what doujins are, do you?
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>>282171664
Yeah because of the fujo niche
It only became popular when it broke out of that niche tho
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>>282171697
If you're talking about doujins exclusively then those get made for opposite sex gaze, not for whatever western activism you support
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>>282171697
Most of these tourists don’t even watch anime. Their knowledge of what to say in shitposts is entirely secondhand from what the /vpol/ echo chamber says about a show.
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>>282171761
You are falling for bait anon
This entire thread has been derailed because you keep falling for bait
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>>282171774
I've already seen that guy, it's an ACK situation where even if it's bait he's still mentally ill for being so dedicated to it, so it's still funny to make fun of him.
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>>282171761
>white genocide true
>tho
Never has a more “12 year old brain rotted by the echo chamber on /pol/“ statement ever been made on this board lol
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>>282171816
But you're the one who mentioned genocide thoughbeit
btw ctrl+fing "echo chamber" brings 10 matches in this thread, maybe you should stop spamming the same exact sentence structures and expressions post after post because this makes my ACK comparison a bit too on the nose
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>>282171878
I use all sorts of uncommon phrases in my posts that would make it quite easy to assemble a huge collage from the archives. I’d cackle maniacally if you want to try to turn me into a shitposting boogeyman because I’m happy to have you talk about my posts on this board. Actual otaku agree with me, that’s why you stopped posting that one screencap. You can’t really threaten me with the boogeyman treatment when I know you’re the one afraid to do it.
All I really have to do post after post is point out that you’re a tourist from /pol/ and then you mechanically type some /pol/ shit because you’re triggered, and the entire thing proves exactly what I pointed out in the first place.
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>>282171686
I can feel the seethe from this lmao
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>>282171986
I never posted any screencap though. Looks like you're also affected by Fregoli like ACK is.
And no "actual otaku" do not agree with you, schizos from normalfag sites will never be otakus
btw i haven't been a regular on /pol/ for years so you fail again, lolcow
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>>282172167
Everyone can tell you’re a tourist from that echo chamber because you talk exactly like every other tourist from that echo chamber. You don’t even try to hide it either since announcing yourself is part of the psychosexual release you get from shitposting. Plus you don’t even watch anime so you can only regurgitate these talking points from /pol/ as if they’re supposed to hold any meaning here.

Come on, don’t tease this bogeyman stuff if you aren’t going to give me a name and post screencaps of archived posts to make people aware of the mythology. You have to do the full song and dance or else it’s just boring ACK this ACK that.
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>>282172242
>I can tell you post on /pol/ by your posting style
>But i don't post on /pol/
>Instead of acknowledgeing i was wrong i will double down
Smartest libtard lol.
Btw, /pol/ is the way it is because 4chan is. Not the other way around. This will stay true no matter how hard you early 2010s newfags try to deny it. Every single attempt at having a political board in 4chan's history always ended up being exactly like /pol/. You will never fit in here
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>>282172311
Not him, but /a/ hated /pol/ before it was even /pol/. We called them stormfags.
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>>282172348
Only tumblrtards were seething at stormfags though
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>>282172311
>>282172348
Also, /pol/ got this way because your kind got literally banned from reddit and immigrated here.
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>>282172372
Nah, we all laughed at them, obvious reddit immigrant.
You have to go back.
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>>282172311
/pol/ was made as a containment board for people who were told to go back to Stormfront lol
You’re the definition of an election tourist pretending to be an oldfag. You will never fit in here because you don’t actually watch anime, you just shitpost about it because you have terminal brain rot that demands you have an opinion on anime as part of the western reactionary culture war.
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>>282172373
See that's something else that outs you as a newfag, 4chan has always been the place for people who don't fit in anywhere else, pretending it was either otherwise just proves you're a extroverted normalfag who wants to turn this place into a place for extroverted normalfags like twitter and reddit.

>>282172391
Are you aware of the fact that reddit is one of the most leftist places on the internet?
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>>282172373
Facebook too, /pol/ and /v/ became the echo chamber for normalfags banned from normal social media for being pieces of shit.
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>>282172420
>4chan has always been the place for people who don't fit in anywhere else,
MAGA shit is mainsteram and normalfag shit. I was on 4chan when it was still a hobby site instead of a website for an israel and china supporting political movement.

>>282172420
>he doesn't remember how MAGA actually took off on reddit

Anyway I'm done talking to retarded tourists.
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>>282172418
>/pol/ was made as a containment board for people who were told to go back to Stormfront
...by tumblr tourists.
It instantly became one of the most active boards because most of the userbase is like this.
Just like every previous attempt at having a political or news board ended up the exact same way.
>You’re the definition of an election tourist pretending to be an oldfag
But you're the one who immigrated from tumblr/reddit/whatever in around 2012 and think you know what board culture is
Culture shifted more in the early 2010s than in 2016 and in fact actual oldfags agree that the biggest cancer was 2012-2016.
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>>282172478
You're the only person talking about MAGA
MAGA loves kikes, niggers and faggots
It's leftist
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>>282172463
If you fit in on "normal social media" then why do you post here?
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>>282172502
Your obsession with tumblr and Reddit is one of those laughable tells that marks you as an election tourist regurgitating bullshit from the /pol/ echo chamber. Everyone agrees that neonazis are the biggest cancer which is why a containment board was made to divert their organized raids and proselytizing. Anime itself carries that antifascist messaging too.
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>>282160734
my wife in the middle
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>>282172550
Where did I say that I use social media at all? I’m not some tourist from /v/ and /pol/ that loves posting twitter and youtube screencaps here after all
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>>282172596
I didn't mention reddit first though. And you mentioned /pol/ more than any other board has been mentioned by anyone else, making you factually more obsessed than me.
>Everyone agrees
just you
> Anime itself carries that antifascist messaging
repeat this 100 more times and it will become true (just kidding lol)

>>282172661
You clearly implied you would fit in there and not get banned. Maybe you need to go back.
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>>282172680
You must be desperate to make a stretch like that. Unfortunately everyone agrees with me and you have to samefag to get by. You tourists just do not have the numbers to pretend your presence matters here these days, especially since we get to laugh at the janitors deleting your spam and your increasingly unsubtle tantrums.
Everyone knows you’re a tourist from /pol/ who doesn’t even watch anime lol
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>>282172766
Ok, Everyone, but you are one person though.
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>The schizo is a Gundamfag
What a surprise
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>>282172802
People agreeing with me is why you won’t actually make me into a bogeyman to shitpost about like ACK. You try to do some revisionist history as an election tourist and suddenly there’s a murmur of actual users talking about Stormfront. It’s what happens every time, you get mobbed and called on your bullshit.
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...and he's also an antilolifag.
What was it about calling people NPCs from an echo chamber again? Not a single original thought in his head.
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>>282172873
Nobody agree with you, this board loves loli and waifu culture and hates faggots.
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>>282172896
But why even bother when you won’t screencap any of those posts? You already know people will just agree with me because you tried it before.
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>>282172963
Fregoli
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...and of course he's a newfag from late 2024.
So not even a tumblr wave tourist, straight up just a post-covid retard.
Embarrassing.
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>>282173031
No one’s going to be excited about your attempt to make me into a bogeyman if you don’t give them a screencap collage to chew on, this is some basic stuff. Put in the work if you want me to feel embarrassed or intimidated by your sleuthing.
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Hitler would have loved anime.
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>>282160734
Madoka did to magical girls what undertale did to indie games making them all be about depression.
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>>282173167
Undertale isn't about depression though.
And neither is Madoka, even if it's depressing.
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>>282172596
>Anime itself carries that antifascist messaging too.
I don't know about antifascist, but most anime definitely carries a message of pro-tolerance. There's tons of anime that includes foreigners, outsiders, and other weird people. Certain people would get it if the blonde little girls from Britain were black girls from Africa instead. Just a reminder, real Japanese would bully such foreigners and especially half-breeds because they're too different from their own mono-culture.
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>>282173199
>most anime
watch more anime
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>>282173232
I have watched multiple anime every season since 2008 plus a whole load of older anime.
What are you counter examples?
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>>282173250
>req
no
watch more anime
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>>282173271
Dumbass with no arguments.
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>>282172502
>Culture shifted more in the early 2010s than in 2016 and in fact actual oldfags agree that the biggest cancer was 2012-2016.
Ahh the Gamergate/Obama/SJW/Tumblr years…
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>>282165111
Cringe
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>>282173199
>Anime is meant to be progressive and antifascist
>The Japanese are a bunch of anti-racemixing Nazis
Pick one and only one.
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I like magical girl anime. Do you like magical girl anime, /a/?
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>>282174064
Only the deconstructive ones.
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>>282174033
>The Japanese are a bunch of anti-racemixing Nazis
>anime literally welcomes race mixed characters
Dumb brainrot /pol/zoomer.
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>>282174064
Does Djibril count as a magical girl anime?



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