There was no special reason romance between Shirou and Saber. I felt it was most horribly written romance that Nasu ever done.
It is very easy to miss when you're a retarded ESL.
>>282216757There was a very special reason: money. Nasu needed FSN to be an eroge because they were the only ones who gave out money at the time. Same with Tsukihime. The sex scenes and romances were terrible in that one as well.
>>282216757It’s a multi route game retard, just choose the route you prefer based on Waifu
It's a very simple reason, Shirou treated her like a woman instead of a man. Women shouldn't be fighting, Seiba. Now eat your burgers.
>>282216757There was some justification, but it's still impossible to take King Arthur falling for an autistic japanese high schooler that she knew for a few days seriously.
>>282217036What if I used my command seals to make her cum and squirt uncontrollably right there where she stands?
>>282217148Many servants would have your head if you tried that on them
>>282216757Sakura x Shirou are the canonical soulmates of FSN so all it's fine op
>>282216757that's not sakura and shirou
>>282217241That's fine, the romance with Saber isn't believable and Rin is too good for him anyway
>>282216757Nasu said he cringe when he read what he wrote about Saber and Shirou now.
>>282217267rhin is for waver, period
>>282216757Kill yourself. They are both stubborn autistic retards obsessed with swords and justice, perfect for each other.
>>282217148Magic Resistance would let her resist the first couple Command Spells, but the third one would cause her to cave despite her best efforts. Then Lancer would walk in and kill you.
>>282217036>tfw no sex slaver bad end
>>282216931>Same with Tsukihime. The sex scenes and romances were terrible in that one as well.I actually disagree, they were bad but still somewhat readable and less long-winded than F/SN
>>282217403>enabling and reaffirming shiro's worst tendencies>our ideals match we should fuck
>>282217540>enabling
>>282217032She should have been more used goods through yuri with Guinevere
>>282217403>obsessed with swords and justiceWrong.
>>282217765Yeah I know but it's funny
>>282217148That's quite literally the only thing I know about fate from reading the hentai of it
>takeuchi and nasu ask urobuchi to write fate/zero over and over again>urobuchi finally agrees to write an official canon prequel>nasu writes the outline and proof-reads every chapter>takeuchi designs the characters>nasu scraps some of urobuchi's ideas such as waver adopting an assassin and sakura killing kariya >nasu pitches the fate/zero light novel to aniplex / sony / ufotable as a dark gritty anime following kara no kyoukai's anime>fate/zero becomes a smash hit and aniplex want a fate mobile game built on the hype of fate/zero >nasu later declares fate/zero as non-canon and just an AU spinoff>FGO is built on the hype that fate/zero started, which is now considered non-canonWhat did Nasu mean by this
>>282216757I ship Saber with Unlimited Blade Works Shirou
>>282216757ponos, vagoo, jam it in, etcetera
>>282217565>you...you're just like me!i hated this overplayed shit so much in the fate universe. typical sign of a hack writer.
>>282218141Hey, Kishimoto built a multibillionaire career with that trick
>>282217957FGO is also non canon to FSN
>>282216757Fate is just amwf propaganda.>FSN has female king Arthur give her virginity to a Japanese high school boy>Medea instantly forgets her marriage to the Greek hero Jason to get bred by a Japanese kungfu wobbly fist master>Medusa gets wet thinking about Japanese dick>Tohsaka ancestor implied to have married and impregnated an Edelfelt Sister from the 3rd Grail War>Kotomine's white wife literally dies trying to fix him>FZ has a prestigious German family hire a Japanese mage to impregnate their crown jewel, he also happens to have a devout assistant who happily serves as his stress relief>FApoc has the queen of ancient kingdom fall in love with a literallywho Japanese>FE has a Roman empress fall in love with a Japanese boy>FGO goes hard with this, Japanese teenager/college student/shota is sought after by female knights, goddesses, witches, queens/empresses, etc.
>>282216757>still not following you here
>>282216757>>282217032The reason was she was deflowered by him.It's not complicated.Saber was willing to sacrifice her virginity for a chance at the grail. Once she does so pair bonding kicks in and she starts feeling feelings she never felt before so she succumbs to them. It's a perfectly understandable romance
>>282216757It only really makes sense when one understands that they always dreamed about each other and Shirou had Seiba's sheath in his soul. Time and space retroactively rewrites itself in Nasuverse so once these two became bonded it was a permanent destiny.
>>282216757>I felt it was most horribly written romance that Nasu ever done.you forgot sakura
Uncontested list of Nasu's best stories>Kara no Kyoukai 5 Paradox Spiral>Tsukihime Arc and Ciel Route (two sides of the same coin)>Tsukihime Hisui and Kohaku route (two sides of the same coin)>Fate UBW Route>Fate HF Route>CCC Gil route>LB6Uncontested list of Nasu's worst stories>Melty Blood >Fate Saber route>Most of Extra>Most of FGO>Extella>Last Encore
>>282219108Never thought about it that way, that's kinda neat. >>282218735Yeah it gets more explicit the further the series went, but I remember reading an actually pretty convincing schizopost on here about Shirou actually being a racial foreigner. Him being a redhead combined with some apparent mistranslated stuff/it just doesn't come through in English about him being an "other" and shit like that. Also that he's pretty fucking tall as an adult being a cunt's hair below 6'2 (monstrously tall for a Jap).
>>282218280lol, but it was handled well there, not here.
>>282219795Why's he got arms like a gorilla?
>>282221283Because it was Takeuchi's divine VISION.
>>282217765>>282217794How is it wrong?
>>282221377Saber isn't obsessed with swords or justice. That's Shirou's thing.
>>282216757soldiers fuck and fight. it’s not in character to be a prude.As time went on she came to respect Shirous killing ability, which made her appreciate him as a man
>>282221377Their idea of justice is simply saving everyone at the expense of themselves, although for Artoria that only includes her people and she took a more pragmatic approach to it. Shirou loves all weapons in general from a technical viewpoint, and Artoria is more passionate about swordsmanship than swords specifically.
>>282220063>putting UBW in the league of HF LmaoSakura may be a shit heroine but the Route is 100x better than UBW.>CCC Gil routeCCC's routes are all good. CCC in general is the best part of Extra.
>>282217148>>282217443Lancer couldn't resist Kirei telling him to LTG himself in the VN, but Zero says Arturia no sold two command seals before Excaliburing the grail. Is the difference due to Arturia having exceptional magic resistance and Lancer being average in that regard? I doubt that it's because he lacked willpower or an intent to live.
>>282221507>Sakura may be a shit heroine but the Route is 100x better than UBW.Explain? UBW has the highest highs of the VN
>>282220606The only evidence people can genuinely claim for him maybe being a foreigner of sorts is that he and his family used to live in the westernized business district of Fuyuki that burned down at the end of Zero. But since Fate is a Japanese VN this is exceedingly unlikely, and people in the VN would probably comment on him looking sort of different. Though Tohsaka is canonically a quarter gaijin and nobody brings that up ever aside from one scene in HA as a setup to Luvia going on a racist tirade against the japanese.
>>282221510The knight classes all have inherent magic resistance, intentionally to fuck over caster as part of the imbalanced system to favor the the three families over outsiders. Saber has the highest magic resistance, and Arthur has extreme resistance herself. There really isn't any other major example of a servant resisting a direct command seal. Gil couldn't. Nasu's Heracles maybe could, but FSF Heracles couldn't at all.
>>282217278When did he say that?
>>282221510Even single ranks in a skill or stat can create orders of magnitude difference. It really was just having higher Magic Resistance.
>>282221589Wow...Arturia big stronk.
>>282221488>soldiers fuck and fight. it’s not in character to be a prude.Yet Saber acts like a demure virgin so that's a worthless point you are making.The simply explanation is that Nasu is a hack writer.
>>282217957>nasu later declares fate/zero as non-canon and just an AU spinoffIt always was. He says even in the earliest interviews about it that Zero is just a version of the events of the 4th HGW. It contradicted the VN in multiple places to begin with.
>>282218141It's kino, retard.
VN Rin can make Sherou take a geas to never fight as a bad end in the VN. Did she actually know the original spell or did she simply call some sort of basic mage contract spell a geas? Could magi mind control people into accepting shitty geases?
>>282217957Every piece of lore in FSN is non-canon and subject to change depending on how Nasu feels at any given time
>>282221578>highest highsAll the talk of FSN is mostly HF. What are you talking about?>worms>Rin's defenseless anus>Can you keep up with me?>Nine Lives Blade Works>Kyrie Elesion>Kirei's whole story>Sparks Liner High>Mind of Steel
>>282221510>>282221589Now it's stated that by burning 3 Command Seals together, it will force the servant to do anything and they won't be able to resist it.
>>282221589wait gil couldnt?
>>282222583Pretty sure Gil could. But CSing him without a good reason can kill you.Tokiomi surviving that long against him after the 1st CS is a miracle.
>>282222510>Can you keep up with me?>Nine Lives Blade WorksThey're a continuation of what UBW started, being the best route.>Rin and Archer prologue>Archer vs Lancer>Rin and Shirou fighting at school>Rider plucking out Shirou's eyes and orgasming>Shirou's defect >Caster and Kuzuki's whole story>Shirou projecting swords for the first time>Archer betraying Rin >Caster stealing Saber>Gilgamesh vs Berserker>Shirou vs Archer >Shirou vs Gil being the peak of fate>London epilogue
>>282222631Gil only allowed Kirei to betray Tokiomi after he was told that Tokiomi was planning to force Gil to kill himself
>>282222559Of course, but the vast majority of servants can't even resist 1.>>282222583He couldn't, and he detested the idea of command seals. You can argue he might have been able to resist if he really tried, but he never really tries at anything. And he probably wouldn't want to look like a struggling bitch in front of the other servants. You can also argue he could resist long enough to quickly kill you, but just temporarily. It's how Nasu writes everything.
>>282222634>that listLmaoI forget UBWfags are Anime-onlys. I'm not bothering.
>>282222687UBW unveils the selfish in the selfless Shirou, and the selfless in the selfish Rin. Yin and Yang. They complete each other. The central theme of FSN is that love can heal and save anyone, and no route explores this better than UBW.HF on the other hand features a romance that repeats some of the beats of UBW, but executed in an inferior fashion. The point is that the events of the route force Shirou to contemplate the way that he enjoyed Sakura's presence due to her providing the minimal amount of human interaction he needed for him to maintain the illusion that he *doesn't* need it, that he doesn't want to be happy, and that becoming an inhuman machine is something he truly desires. But in recapitulating and consequently further elaborating on this theme, the narrative just provides an inferior iteration of the dynamic already explored with Rin, because Shirou's interactions with Rin make him realize how uncomfortable he is at finding Rin so much fun to be around *immediately*. Rin and Shirou have excellent chemistry, and their interactions are a joy to observe, while Sakura and Shirou have no real dynamic whatsoever -- it's a relationship defined by plot contrivances and the circumstances the characters find themselves in. In UBW, Rin and Shirou proactively attempt to help the other -- plot contrivances may provide fertile soil for their interactions, but fundamentally the essence of the narrative is found in their intrinsic clash of personalities, the narrative and its contrivances merely accentuating and catalyzing the interactions; in HF, the romance is driven entirely by the plot. Shirou's conundrum in HF is not prompted by an inner conflict spilling over into a conflict with Rin (and Archer), but by Zouken's posing threat to Sakura.
>>282221584I don't really think it's true, but he made some really good points that made it interesting. I wish I had saved it, I only saw it once. I've never seen anyone else has ever mention it or post a screencap of it.
>>282222646I'm honestly surprised Gil didn't know how the ritual is done.Tokiomi already ruined his mood twice; the first command seal and wasting his GoB and wanting him to Ea Gilles.
>>282222733>I'm honestly surprised Gil didn't know how the ritual is done.None of the Servants did. Gil finds out first hand because he is bathed in the mud. In the context of Fate/Zero, only Irisviel, Tokiomi and Zouken knew the truth.
>>282222816Doesn't Medea find out in UBW?
>>282222733Tokiomi minmaxed everything in his favor but still sucked. He was too stupid to see just how absurd Gil was, and too much of a bitch to push his advantage especially with Gil himself eager to fight. His entire strategy with assassin was a waste of that servant too. Literally doing nothing would have been better, he probably would have won in the very first fight.
>>282222631>>282222672wait lads its been too long what happens?
>>282216757Romance?Nasu just wanted to cum inside king Arthur for some reason.
>>282222922Ijust want to cum inside king Arthur for some reason.
What we know about Illya's route>Nasu confirmed that Ilya's bird familiars were from the draft>Nasu: If it's at the land that houses the Holy Grail, then Ilya is indeed that strong. And being able to make a familiar from her hair was in the original draft. The work this time around was especially hard, so I ended up using an "Iri's replacement" approach. By the way, the name of the technique is Elfen Lied [German for Elves' Song, 天使の詩 - Angel's Poem]. The bird's name is Storch Fieseler [German term for a type of plane].>Takeuchi confirmed that Shirou would have a sex scene with Leysritt and Sella>At the initial concept stage, the only details we had hammered down about these two maids were their names, their general roles (powerhouse/teacher) and which one would become Illya's Dress of Heaven. We only expanded on these characters when we decided to go ahead with "hollow". Normal homonculi are mostly emotionless like Leysritt, so that illustrates what a unique case Illya is. Leysritt was created as a sample of Illya, and Sella was allowed to live only because she was useful as Illya's tutor. That's about the extent of the specifics we initially had for these characters. When I started writing Sella's part in "hollow", however, she quickly became one of my favourite characters. I like Leysritt too, of course. By the way, I think Sella is the only real tsundere character in "Fate". (laughs)>Shirou losing his arm protecting Ilya, the two shopping and her singing, BRING ILLYA BACK, and Nine Lives Revolver were also planned for Illya's route>Shirou was going to drop his ideal to make amends for Kiritsugu's sins in Illya's route, while the Sakura route focuses on him breaking free of Kiritsugu and becoming his own person. Also, Rin was likely going to become a villain after killing Sakura and going mad in the Illya route to complete the pattern of how each heroine is a villain in some route>Zouken was the final boss
>>282222971it's a shame that fgo succeeded so we will never ever get an Illya route.all ages money too good.
>>282222816Gil has the bullshit NP of seeing the future.>>282222866Tokiomi's strategy was actually good. If he didn't summon Gil.Like with Achilles and Karna in Apo, he could probably stomp everyone in a day.
>>282217484REALLY cute saibah butt
>>282222833She jobbed out before she got a chance iirc.
>>282217957>nasu later declares fate/zero as non-canon and just an AU spinoffliterally never happened
>>282222922>NasuThat's Takeuchi, you dolt.Nasu's into giant voring women. Medb, Kiara, Aurora. Evil women are his favs.
what about that old rumor that Nasu is a woman?Would explain a lot
>>282223123Nasu is a married man
>>282217036top pic is way better
cute kingcute couple
>>282222971>By the way, I think Sella is the only real tsundere character in "Fate". (laughs)What about Rin?
>>282223220What's the difference? I don't know if it's the same, or there's a minuscule difference in the lighting.
>>282223504Rin is one third bitch through her conceptual descent from Aoko, one third "easily embarrassed" moe appeal, and one third "doesn't suffer fools easily".Sella, on the other hand, is pure tsundere.
>>282223543Way to out yourself as a phone user. The top image is significantly higher resolution.
>>282223543top: doki's releasebottom: tenrai
>>282223593Ohoho, I remember that thread.
>>282223564>"doesn't suffer fools easily".First time I've seen this expression.
>>282223665I know it should hav been "doesn't suffer fools gladly", but it's late and I'm tired, okay.
>>282223627>>282223593>>282223543We need DEEN remux. >Kara no Kyoukai BD REMUXhttps://nyaa.si/view/1828314>Fate/Zero BD REMUXhttps://nyaa.si/view/1804578>Fate/stay night [Unlimited Blade Works] BD REMUXhttps://nyaa.si/view/1890595>Fate/EXTRA Last Encore BD REMUXhttps://nyaa.si/view/1985027
>>282221488>As time went on she came to respect Shirous killing ability,But he's against killing?
>>282223884While this artwork is pretty damn nice, I can't help but be bothered by the artist drawing her twice as busty as she is supposed to be canonically. Even for Rin that would be too generous a bosom.
>>282217148Based on this explanation /a/, what is the diameter of Sabers urethra?
>>282221656>It contradicted the VN in multiple places to begin with.How so?
>>282224263To name a handful>Kirei not already understanding his nature and needing Gil to basically drag it out of him>the extent of Kiritsugu and Saber's interactions>Stay Night implies Saber was summoned in Fuyuki in the same shed that Shirou summoned her in>Saber not knowing Illya as a result>Kiritsugu and Kirei's final battle taking place in a different location>Saber seeing Kiritsugu shoot Kirei to death>Saber's prior battle with GilgameshThere are a couple other minor references that paint Kiritsugu himself differently.
>>282216757Read the VN.
/a/ who is the better character? GArcher or Kotomine (haha no bias)
>>282223884DEEN's style for fate still works for me
>>282216757It's no wonder you feel that way, since even Nasu and Urobuchi shit on Shirou x Saber (Urobuchi thinks Rin is the true heroine, and Nasu states that Shirou x Sakura is the only pairing where they truly accept all of each other rather than blindly chasing their ideals).
>>282216931>still posting this nonsenseYou're doing it on purpose at this point.
>>282218735>female king Arthur give her virginityDidn't she say she had experience or something like that?
>>282220063Hollow Ataraxia is peak Nasu.
>>282225620Afaik that line in particular was a mistranslation and the meaning was more like "even someone like me can figure out how to physically make a man feel good". Although supplementary material explains that Merlin turned Arturia into a futa for the purpose of impregnating Guinevere and sire an heir, but Morgan "stole her sperm" and used that genetic material to create Mordred. So I suppose you could say that Arturia has SOME sexual experience... as a man.
>>282224637naisu
>>282225444Urobuchi didn't understand the original story and Nasu is a spineless sycophant. Citing secondhand opinions doesn't de-wonder anything, it's just running away from thinking.
>>282226967>Nasu>secondhand
>>282219795orangutan
>>282226981If it's not your own opinion, you're getting it from somewhere else, i.e. secondhand. Authority isn't relevant in this case, but Nasu's constant self-contradictions make it irrelevant either way.
So cute together!
>>282216757Fate route is a fanfic so basically who cares. HF is the canon route and the one that solves the plot of FSN.t. Nasut. Shirou
>>282227236LOLLMAO
>>282216757>already insecure about your body>the boy you like runs away in terror at the sight of itmight as well kys now
>>282216757Artoria and ritsuka had better chemistry
>>282224263Sakura being aware of the fact that Kariya was trying to help her even though her whole thing is that nobody ever tried to help until she met Shirou.Saber being soft and weak
Why have Sakurafags gaslight themselves into believing HF is the canon route, in a franchise that has had a multiverse since 2004.
>>282228174A multiverse that consists of like 40 bad endings at that.
>>282227093
>>282228242
In terms of route heroines it goesArcher > Saber > garbage > Sakura.
>>282229928rin...
>>282216757Worst vn I have read. And the anime is even worse
>>282229928Archer is the heroine?
>>282217032Why? Did you meet King Arthur before and he told you that? I dont think so
Is Saber the most famous Welsh anime character?
>>282231123I thought she was English?
>Nasu saidNasu is constantly going back on what he said and making retcons.
>>282232028>Arthur>EnglishFucking lorelets.
>>282216757You simply don't have the soul of a pedophile required to appreciate the double pedophilia of Saber/Shirou.
i'm gar for archer
>>282216757Realistically there didn't need to be a romance and Saber would have been raping Shirou every night and extracting every drop of semen she could to secure the holy grail. That's the plot hole of plot holes right there.
>>282232028Arthur's story is a post-Roman Britain fighting against the invasion of the angles and saxons, which later became the english.
>>282228174>>282228199What were the most gruesome bad endings?
>>282221507It isn't actually. HF is a mess. UBW is pretty much perfection from start to finish.>>282222510>HFniggers only care about the Cliff Notes parts of the storyTypical lol
>>282229928Archer is to UBW what Kirei is to HF. You're a retard.
>>282216757women can't write romance for men
>>282234443He does look pretty fuckable while wearing wearing only the black shirt, you are absolutely right.
>>282234327Easily the first one. Next is probably when Caster possesses Shirou but that one's implicit.
>>282234443True
>>282216757That is probably because modern people can't see the beauty in pure and clean relationship. To them loving someone "as is" is incomprehensible. They simply cannot understand that love can be something more than lust, something more spiritual. Nasu understands. I understand. Fags like you can't. Why? I have no idea. Maybe it's society's fault for not teaching you that.
>>282234419>the Cliff Notes parts of the storyI'm glad we can agree the Fate route's exposition, cooking, and training scenes are the actual most important parts of the VN.
Would Shirou have still fallen in love with Saber if she was fat?
Seibah should be romancing me
>Big fat tits>Skinny athletic frameHow does this work exactly
>>282235251Superior Greek genetics.
>>282221510It's because luck is the only stat that matters, and saber's is maximum and lancer's is minimum.
>>282235314Pretty poetic, honestly. If you managed to fuck over fate, when you were alive, you'll have high luck after being summoned.
>>282234327Probably the one where Caster removes Shirou's arms and legs and turns him into a living magic wand to utilize his magecraft. It ends with Rin eventually finding him as she raids Caster's temple and giving him a mercy killing because there's nothing she can do to save him.
>>282234443Are you the same faggot that is always autistic about Rin being the perfect heroine for UBW who can't take a joke?
>>282235500>>282234327I liked the one where Shirou and Rin go to the church without Lancer and Archer guts Shirou
>>282234295So she's Roman?
>>282234824There's actually a lot of great characterization in those, even if they can be hit or miss sometimes. The problem isn't the existence of such scenes as such, but their application.Anyway in UBW you have>Your distortion>Shirou's defect>Rin and Shirou's date>the London epilogue>the classroom scene>Rin's explaining to Shirou what it means to be a magus>their interactions before Bloodfort on the rooftop>Bloodfort itselfand those are all examples of brilliant characterization essential for grasping the themes of the route and the arcs of the characters without being flashy action scenes.
>>282235251Medusa was a goddess before being turned into a monster. She wasn't unaging like her sisters, but she was still a minor divinity.
>>282234721>Easily the first one.What first one?
>>282235542I feel great.I should be able to project his swords in this state."Thanks. I'm sorry, Shirou."Tohsaka runs.…Archer lets her go as if he has no interest in her."Well done. It seems you understand your own powers."He emits an intent to kill.
>>282235615If you refuse to join the Holy Grail War, Kirei revokes Shirou's command spell, and goes home and runs into Illya
>>282235108Probably not, because being fat isn't just about appearance. It implies things about one's character. Being fat implies one is lacking in self-control, discipline, motivation, practical sense, and accountability. Saber likes to eat, but only the spin-offs really turn her into a glutton, and she's still active enough to actually use the calories.
tfw rider doesn't come to save shirou in HF
>>282235575>There's actually a lot of great characterization in thoseYeah, I wasn't kidding.>but their applicationThey're applied correctly.>in UBW you haveI believe you were already told to fuck off, secondary.
>>282235867Why can't HF fans prove UBW bros wrong? All you do is chimp out
>>282235912>>Fate has the best parts of the VN>lol seethe HFfagNot making yourself look smart here.
>>282235867Oh I see. You're seething over the London epilogue from the anime blowing everything from HF out the water.
>>282222885every day i look into it nasu's rewritten the way commands work lel
>>282235948Are the phrases Your distortion and Shirou's defect ever used in the anime?
>>282236012DEEN is the only Fate anime that has Archer's full UBW chant
>>282216757I am never going to regret my refusal to engage with Fate
>>282235867>They're applied correctly.More often than not they aren't.
>>282236012They are used on this board quite often in one particular context. Secondariness is a terminal disease, no amount of reading can cure someone who experienced the story out of order, least of all an autistic waifufag.
>>282236020And that is related to my question how exactly?
>>282236065You seem mentally unstable. Have you dilated today sis?
>>282236127>copesneedilateDo you really want to lower yourself to a pig wrestling in mud?
>>282236127Fate fanbase is a loony bin of UBW vs HF schizos
>>282236207>no argumentYou clearly have a lot of unresolved issues.
Is there a sex scene between only Shirou and Rin in the original game?
>>282236263>le I'm having a serious argumentAbout three replies too late. Anything left?
>>282236324Yes, and one's in Sakura's route.
>>282236227Always was. Rinfags vs Sakurafags and Sakurafags vs other Sakurafags. Saberfags are content to watch on the sidelines, they rest secured knowing who the best girl is without needing to argue.
>>282236324>Is there a sex scene between only Shirou and Rin in the original game?Yes, between Shirou vs Archer and Shirou vs Gil.It was replaced with dolphins in the PS2 port, that was later used as a base for the UBW anime.Let's see how the UBW manga handles it.
>>282236356This is severe levels of mental illness. You don't even know what your own contention is anymore.
>>282236415Thanks for the rerun.
>>282236391Is it something other than the dream scene it has really long time since I played this but Rin is so sexy to me today that I migh replay
>>282236519>Is it something other than the dream sceneThat's HF routeHF manga actually adapts the original VN, check it out
>>282236451You must be really butthurt your retarded takes on UBW were debunked at some point, huh?
>>282236568I really want to impregnate Rin that is so hot
>>282236714The UBW manga and HF manga surpassed the ufotable adaptions
Key scenes that were cut in the HF anime for... reasons
>>282236796Now this is what Fate is about.
>>282236796I only care about the vn I'm going to replay it for Rin
Original Fate manga had soul
>>282236825Pls understand we can't develop central characters or else it'll eat into the padded fights and my wife's screentime
What's the verdict on Shirou in Prisma Illya?
>>282236667You've been BTFO plenty of times but always contrive a way to tell yourself it totally doesn't count. And you also kept replying to obvious shitposts. As they say, don't throw stones in glass houses.
>>282237214unrivaled gigachad
>>282237214The lolicons consider his arc to be a Namek.
>>282218859You have never had sex and it shows.
>>282237344Fake Illyafags don't deserve Miyu, her universe, or her Shirou.
Hey Shiki, you remember that time we teamed up with the servants and fought Roa?
>>282236568i remember fapping to this
>>282237308Out of context quotes lacking a holistic narrative framework aren't evidence. But whatever helps you sleep at night.
>>282237214Arguably the best Shirou iteration. Humanization aspect of Heaven's feel but with more weight and build up presented with the growth of UBW. I only read the Illya chapters for him and I am still mad that it has been months since anything new came for him.
>>282232028No, Nasu, she is not.So her speaking English makes absolutely no sense.She's a Briton, a celt, she is not Germanic, she is not an Angle, she is not a Saxon, she is not an Anglo-Saxon, and English wasn't even a thing yet when the Anglo-Saxons took over the islands.
>>282216871>It is very easy to miss when you're a retarded ESL.ESLs love it because it's their fabled AMWF (especially a blonde noble one) romanceSeamonkeys especially will fight to the death to protect their holy grail self insert story
>>282237943>She's a Briton, a celt,So she's French?
>>282238460you must learn more of your ancient proto-peoplesshe's gaullic ajacent, not frankish german
>>282237376You are a science denier and it shows.
>>282235251VN Rider isn't supposed to be skinny, it's just that Takeuchi circa 2005 couldn't draw thick women at all.
>>282240180Like holy fuck that one CG from Hollow Ataraxia is going to haunt my nightmares forever and I'm not even an ass man.
>>282218859>sacrifice her virginityDo we tell him?
>>282217403Sorry bro but we know it's Sakura x Shirou for a long time now
>>282221507SakuraxShirou and HF are the canonical story of FSN, never forget.
>>282240648>>282240709>seethe saging againuh oh
>>282241093Read the original VN.
>>282218859>pair bonding kicks inWhat is that?
>>282241329the ability for humans to devote themselves to a single sexual partner
>>282241301The one where Sakura is a dogshit character in every single timeline?
Man if Saber grew up like this Medusa would drop Ayako and make a dash to become Shirou's mistress.
>>282241573but rider likes ayako for being jailbait and already is his mistress
>>282236568>>282236796We're at Sakura's H-scene in it now, by the way.
>>282236796I don't remember this scene being like that in the VN...
>>282242076Dubs and it will fade to black.
>>282242220
>>282241573eyebrows are stupid, shit design
>>282236391That was when Captain Jackhammer was born
>>282216757
>>282242526
Shirou. Feed me.
>>282243419kill yourself
>>28224343099% chance it's the same guy who posts the hyper muscle shit that never gets any (you)s
The entirely of FSN is this autistic dork being out of her element on low battery.
>>282218141>you...you're just like me!This is something naruto would say. kek.
>>282242321How? Or eyebrows in general are stupid?
>>282244527>being out of her element Because she's hanging around high-schoolers, and not an adult magus like Iri and Kiritsugu?>on low battery.Because her master botched the summoning?
>>282244879>>282244919god damn you are dumb
>>282244549Okay and?
>>282216757>>282217036>>282217403>282217484>>282217565>>282217794HER-
>>282244961I'm not getting upset at eyebrows.
I need a ShirouI'm holding out for a Shirou until the end of the nightHe's gotta be strong and he's gotta be fast and he's gotta be fresh from the fight.I need a ShirouI'm holding out for a Shirou til the morning lightHe's gotta be strong and he's gotta be soon and he's gotta be larger than lifeLarger than life.
>>282241093it's always going to be Heaven's Feel anon
I'm trying to make a crossover between Fate Zero and Asoiaf in which different characters from Asoiaf were summoned as Servants (Roose/Assassin, Ramsey/Caster, Robb/Berserker, Stannis/Rider and Jon/Saber, the rest of the Servants remain the same as canon) in the 4th Grail War but I can never do anything more than the outline. I know it's shit but I can't get the idea out of my head. I can't help it. I feel like Nasu and Grrm are raping my mind into writing it. I think I've come up with some interesting concepts that fit both franchises and could work together. And the image of Robb, a berserker, with Grey Wind's head sewn around his neck in the Fourth War won't leave my head. As does the idea of Stannis as some sort of rival to Gilgamesh, since they're both kings and polar opposites. Or how the whole thing functions as a continuation of Jon's dilemmas and arcs at the end of ADWD. It just works, and I've come too far to give up. I already know who wins the Fourth War and their wish, Roose's ending, Ramsey's ending, and I even made Jon a Noble Phhastam that reflects his character's conflicts and virtues. I even went so far as to draw parallels between Kiritsugu and Jon.
>>282234327There's the one where Rin gets her head exploded by Kuzuki.The one where Shirou is eaten alive by the worms.The one where Illya gets eaten by the shadow and Shirou finds her remains.
>>282234327Not the most gruesome but the most startling one is definitely the one in UBW where you can have Shirou accidentally trigger Caster's Bites the Dust trap with Issei.
>>282241503Yeah. That dogshit character is the true end heroine. Glad we sort that out.
>>282245556That sucks the most? Probably, yeah.
>>282216757Isn’t saber a man mentally?
>>282234327Also the final one where Sakura traps Rin in the shadow realm and says that she's such a weak bitch for getting mindbroken almost instantly deserves a mention.
>>282217976>I shiptits or GTFO
>>282246015She sees herself as a woman, the male facade is entirely for convenience. Mordred is the one who went full retard and thought being a woman was a problem itself.
>>282246008She isn't but you can keep coping if you want to.
>>282245997Yeah that one is fucked because you don't expect a character not involved in the war to die like that.
>>282246089You don't expect anything that dramatic to happen while Shirou's in school, period.
>>282237417I want to hug Beatrice.
>>282246078Read the Original VN.
>>282246291Just because you keep repeating something doesn't make it true.
>>282246140She is very underrated.
>>282217976Why? What about Rin?
>>282246317What a pervert.She's perfect.
>>282216757>There was no special reason romanceWhat the fuck is a "special reason romance", ESLbro?
>>282220606>his hair color being red (in this cartoon setting where characters have hair colors across the color spectrum that don't correspond to any race in reality, like purple hair, pink hair, green hair, blue hair, etc.) is a sign that he's not JapaneseHoly fuck people are retarded. Imagine being a person older than a fucking 5 year old who still thinks that cartoon hair or eye colors have any kind of correlation to real world human ethnicities.
>>282247101Nasuverse hair colour tends to stay pretty realistic, though. The overwhelming majority of characters who are supposed to be japanese have black or brown hair and the ones which don't are usually some kind of magi or magic victim.
>>282218735You know, for being allegedly "amwf propaganda", the Fate series sure has plenty of romances that don't even involve any Asian characters at all. Like Siegfried and Krimhield, or Euryale and Asterios, or Sigurd and Brynhildr, or Andromeda and Perseus, or Achilles and Atalanta, or Ruggiero and Bradamante. Strange that an "amwf propaganda" franchise would have so many of these non-Asian romances. You'd think that the creators would do everything they can to pair any female character with an Asian man. It's almost like Fate isn't "amwf propaganda". It's almost like you're an obsessed, cherrypicking, racebaiting schizo who should go back to your containment board on /pol/.>>282247136>and the ones which don't are usually some kind of magi or magic victim.Except for the large chunk of Japanese and general Asian characters who aren't. Again, there are no rules for this. Color choices in hair and eyes have more to do with style and visual diversity than anything else in Fate and in anime in general.Should I post Emiya Alter and see what kind of schizo logic you come up with to make sense of his design from a racial perspective? Nah, I'm not going to. It's too easy.
>>282247650Emiya Alter? I don't fuck with post-Hollow Ataraxia Fate.
>>282246310How ironic. You're the one doing it.
>>282218735Not true because I play as Hakunon and Gudako which makes it okay/hot.
>>282218735Counterpoint, Ciel.
Why is it that people who hate something fumble at finding a reason for it? Especially on 4chan, the users are completely inarticulate and petty when it comes to pointing out flaws. Even the fans are better at recognizing the work's faults better than critics.
>>282247650To be fair Emiya Alter looks like that because he's cooking the fuck outta his magic circuits.Also- Brown=Evil
>>282247868And he got a fade to make himself even more african.And started wearing bling.And using guns and turning them sideways.And stealing bikes.But it's all because he cooked his magic circuits.
>>282247883I mean he looks like that because of the magic circuits cooking, the rest is on Emiya deciding to just embrace his watermelanin.Maybe he cooked his brain too?
>>282236568pls tell me someone has this uploaded somewhere
>>282218735If the character doesn't have slanted eyes they don't count as asian unless you want them to be.My Shirou is white.
>>282217484What was the point of putting her in this outfit?
>>282248752Humiliation ritual. Sex.
>>282236796can someone remind me if rider actually fucked shirou dry in that scene?
>>282217484Imagine if we had gotten a caster route and she went all the way with saber.
