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>>283741369
Not healthy male sexuality its about family oriented themes as the deathcult/wokefriends absolutely hates the idea of people forming families and having children. the entire political purpose of the lgbt movement is designed to normalize childlessness. western birthrates are below replacement level not because 'rich people in first world countries prefer to have less kids' but because our entire society has been slowly but intentionally propped up to discourage reproduction.

people think sex is for enjoyment, for fun, for recreation. Both the state run school and the popular culture constantly reinforce this by implying that sex is about 'love' or 'enjoyment' when in reality its suppose to be about reproduction. You are taught from an early age that you should always 'use protection' as if a baby was some kind of illness or disease and if you some how 'have an accident' and make a new life, you are suppose to instantly consider killing it.

If MT was about some loser reincarnating into a fantasy world and just having a harem with 3 chicks, nobody would give a fuck. But Rudeus dares to be a responsible loving husband and father and thats dangerous for our democracy.

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Roxy is the best

>>283742420
50 year old woman btw.

Healthy male sexuality like jacking off to videos of toddlers being bathed?

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>>283742390
I wonder what kind of family dynamics the people in your pic related even come from. To me Paul is the kind of father figure that actually comes off as more idealized/wish fulfillment type character than even the girls Rudeus ends up marrying.
He certainly isn't perfect, he is in fact very flawed and human, but at the same time for the average 20-something father with a weird otherworlder son for a kid he does pretty good, and truly loves his wives and sons. I'd have loved to have a Paul father figure in my life growing up.

>>283742518
No healthy male sexuality is cheating on your pregnant wife with another woman because your fee fee hurts

>>283742532
As you can see in the pic the fujo is absolutely livid about the family not breaking down and continuing to function normally. That's the main point they're angry about and nothing else.
>>283742557
Man is the leader and provider of the family thus they are superior to women and have more rights.
Women have no rights really.
He thinks that that's a bad thing
They can't fathom this.

>>283742557
To be fair that was mostly the migger being a homewrecker and taking advantage of Rudeus when he was emotionally distraught. Of course male/female sexuality is vastly different, but if the roles were reversed that scene would rank top 10 of every "worst anime rape moments" list ever made.

>>283742390
>deathcult/wokefriends absolutely hates the idea of people forming families and having children. the entire political purpose of the lgbt movement is designed to normalize childlessness
Posting this on a website were people in relationships/with children are nearly nonexistent and for years reeeeed at anyone that did (or even just mentioned having a gf) and called them a normalfag that doesn't belong is very ironic

>>283742597
You can stop projecting now bro

>>283742630
Projecting what? You must be a newfag or an election refugee

>>283742597
>4chan is le epic virgin site lol /r9k/ is the whole thing
dumb newfag lol

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>>283741369
Rudeus is the ultimate cuck if for no other reason than the fact that he never engaged in high-powered non-stop breeding sex with these two. Nothing else he does or that happens in the story makes up for that fact. He is a Greyrat in name only, a shame upon his line.

>>283742661
Not very nice

>>283742532
>I'd have loved to have a father who betrays my mother
Sure you would.

>>283742660
You're the newfag, 4chan's obsession with "le trad based family" and having children is absolutely a new thing born from contrarianism. You never found such posts 10-15 years ago

>>283742390
I wish i was rudy instead I'm earthrudeus

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Imagine passing up THIS for a scrawny blue haired femcel, a stick and a retard.

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>>283742390
fpbp
ate fujos
ate ACK
luv MT
simple as

>>283742557
No, it's actually being sexually attracted to a character you believe is male (twice) and having ED at 15 years old

>>283742390
>Not healthy male sexuality its about family oriented themes as the deathcult/wokefriends absolutely hates the idea of people forming families
For 99% of human history male sexuality was largely about spreading your seed to any women willing to take it (And often many who did not). At best maturity was about being able to measure that sexuality for the greater good.

>the entire political purpose of the lgbt movement is designed to normalize childlessness
No, the political purpose of LGBT is acceptance legally.

>You are taught from an early age that you should always 'use protection' as if a baby was some kind of illness or disease and if you some how 'have an accident' and make a new life, you are suppose to instantly consider killing it.
Your body, your choice.

>>283742577
>As you can see in the pic the fujo is absolutely livid about the family not breaking down and continuing to function normally
There is no family. It's a polygamous worldview where the man plays no actual role in the lives of his children. They are objects to be sold and/or used.

>>283742706
I actually already had that, its just that he had no positive masculine traits, never took the time to build a relationship with me or teach me anything useful. I would argue one of the primary reasons Rudeus actually grows as a person in his new life is Paul's guidance and influence.

>>283742390
How much sex have you had without protection? Have you been open to every girl you've fucked getting potentially pregnant? How many kids do you have?

what's with the anti family psyop here

>>283742761
What will happen is that people will be paid a living wage for having and raising children. Either in the form of it financially becoming a genuine alternative to having a job or it being done in a farm like environment meant to sustain the population. The inherent nature of doing free labor through having and raising children is inherently at odds with capitalism and if you think:
>"Well, I'm sure THIS time capitalism is going to lose the fight."
You have no sense of pattern recognition.

>>283742842
Being anti polygamy and infidelity = being anti family?

>>283742842
>Anti family
I have nothing against family inherently. I just think it's clear that people need to understand 1: The actual battle against family as a unit was fought and won a long time ago. Nuclear families are the cancer used to kill it. 2: It's not coming back either.

>>283742787
Are you fucking high? Its a generational household. If nothing bad happened in MT, Rudeus would eventually get hitched with Sylphie and they'd all live together and care for their aging parents, the children would grow up with many capable caretakers around them.

>>283742671
Tbf wasn't his dick not working at the time
I agree he could have fucked them after thou

>>283742390
https://desuarchive.org/a/search/filename/1610800422653.jpg/

>>283742870
>Its a generational household.
It's a polygamous generational household. Not without merit, to be sure. But one that largely serves to minimize the actual role the father plays in the role of their children. Making it largely something they can opt into.

You can see this in countries like Japan and China that have a long history of polygamy being the norm among the upper class.

>>283742842
Just here? The mainstream media and Hollywood has been busy demolishing the image of a family for a while now.

>>283742878
rudy should have a bigger harem fr

>>283742928
Then you are, by default, anti family.

>>283742870
A "generational household" where dad fucks and impregnates the maid and raises the bastard child with his legitimate child? Where's Rudeus' grandparents? The home was just made up of Paul and Zenith before they had him

>>283742390
Truth nuke

>>283742661
Radiation victim

>>283742976
Then you are anti capitalist or VERY stupid.

>>283742976
Capitalism separates families in order to sell as many homes, cars, home appliances, furniture, etc. as possible

>>283742960
Rudeus grandfather are Paul's parents which live somewhere else
It's explained in Paul's backstory

>>283742960
Don't forget said dad raped the maid in the past

>>283742990
Capitalism IS anti family. It inherently has to be because the interests of capitalism and a subject within capitalism are in direct opposition to the interest of a family. That is why births have decreased. It is unwise for a subject living under capitalism to have children financially, and by the logic of capitalism that is all that matters.

>>283742989
>>283743020
The bourgeoisie under capitalism or communism or socialism will lead to the family being seperated and the mode of production is not a factor, only human greed. The family unit thriving is by pure chance and it cannot be intentionally reproduced.

>>283743087
Isn't capitalism inevitable
Even if you are right it's not like we can do anything about it

>>283743087
>The family unit thriving is by pure chance and it cannot be intentionally reproduced.
Yes, which is why it should not be attempted for the most part.

>>283743116
It basically is. Which is why most family values people eventually just conclude the only actual viable path is the total destruction of all human civilization and a return to caveman times or religious mania (Aka: God will destroy the earth and that will fix everything).

>>283743116
>>283743132
That is my point, I am pro family and pro capitalism. The means of production does not matter, only a midwit would conclude that an economic model is entirely hostile to the family unit. The family unit coming into existence is a miracle no matter the model it was produced under. You have no solution and neither do I.

>>283743156
> The means of production does not matter,
It does, and you are just incredibly stupid.

>only a midwit would conclude that an economic model is entirely hostile to the family unit.
Like I said, you are incredibly stupid.

>The family unit coming into existence is a miracle no matter the model it was produced under.
If it's a miracle, then you should be able to understand how it can be negatively impacted by any number of variable.

> You have no solution and neither do I.
For there to be a solution there would need to be a problem. A miracle not happening is not a problem, it's the default state of being.

>>283743001
Yeah, but it's still not really a multigenerational household. Paul and Zenith got their own home, Rudeus and Sylphie got their own home, Rudeus' children eventually leave and get their own homes (despite the fact there's no need to since Rudeus owns a spacious mansion)

Rudeus is lucky there no age laws in his new world

>>283743297
It's because Mushoku Tensei, being modern Isekai, is written by a fundamentally untalented and incurious person incapable of imagining a truly different society.

>>283743261
>cannot attempt to refute, only "you are stupid"
very sad to see, thank goodness you people are politically powerless

>>283741369
Nuh uh, I hate this trash because the author as well as the retarded fandom pretend it's something more than isekai slop when it's just that.

>>283743407
Anon, I literally did refute you. Twice in fact.

>If it's a miracle, then you should be able to understand how it can be negatively impacted by any number of variable.
>For there to be a solution there would need to be a problem. A miracle not happening is not a problem, it's the default state of being.
Are both refutations of your argument.

>>283743457
Are you a commie or something?

>>283743476
No, but I think your argument is bullshit and shows the inherent inability of people who believe in family values to actually have any semblance of understanding of ideological coherence. I genuinly have far more respect for the capitalists who just openly say "Kill family" since at least they show a basic modicum of understanding and don't shrivel up into a corner crying about miracles (Without actually understanding how miracles work).

If it's a miracle, then it's dead and it's not coming back just as much as if it was the fault of capitalism. At that point being pro family is genuinly just being in denial of reality.

>mushoku slurpers are pol\tards
Figures.

>>283743535
Not being a commie makes me pol tard now?

>>283743457
>Anon, I literally did refute you. Twice in fact.
>The means of production does not matter,
>It does, and you are just incredibly stupid.
>only a midwit would conclude that an economic model is entirely hostile to the family unit.
>Like I said, you are incredibly stupid.
I am still waiting for that argument
Also
>If it's a miracle, then you should be able to understand how it can be negatively impacted by any number of variable.
Is not an argument, you need to elaborate honey

>>283743532
>At that point being pro family is genuinly just being in denial of reality
What's wrong with denying reality

>>283743552
>I am still waiting for that argument
I did because your counterargument of it basically just came down to "It's a miracle and nobody is to blame". Which I quickly dismissed as obvious bull.

>Is not an argument, you need to elaborate honey
Miracles are fragile. If somebody has a 1% chance to survive cancer and they survive, then any number of variables could have affected it. A miracle does not mean NOTHING can affect it and it was just a total coin toss where 99% of the coins happened to come up head.

Accordingly: If family existing is a miracle (I should point out I don't actually believe that) to such a extent that NOTHING can be done to influence it's survival. Then, literally anything could and most likely did affect it.

>>283743561
I hate to tell you this, anon, but insanity is bad.

>>283743618
A miracle is a miracle why do you need to overcomplicate things.
At that point go write a book lmao.

Paul was the hero Rudy needed but didn't deserve. Sharing Paul's chadly genes gave Rudy a shot in his second life that he never had in his first.

>>283743645
Kek

>>283743618
>Miracles are fragile. If somebody has a 1% chance to survive cancer and they survive, then any number of variables could have affected it. A miracle does not mean NOTHING can affect it and it was just a total coin toss where 99% of the coins happened to come up head.
I agree though
>Accordingly: If family existing is a miracle (I should point out I don't actually believe that) to such a extent that NOTHING can be done to influence it's survival. Then, literally anything could and most likely did affect it.
You seem to take words at direct literal face value, I never said "nothing can change the family unit/influence its survival" just that capitalism has worked the best. It has lifted billions out of poverty, go ahead and name a better system to do so (you cannot).

>>283743645
>A miracle is a miracle why do you need to overcomplicate things.
Because complexity is the key to obtained a consensus. I'm perfectly in favor of concluding "Nothing can be done, it's dead" and then abandoning all pretenses of maintaining a family. But that is politically simply not viable.

Your cowardly defense of something that you admit can't be saved is helping nobody. It's dragging a corpse into the living room and demanding everybody look really hard at it rather than bury the damn thing.

>>283742897
MT sisters... our response?

>>283743678
> I never said "nothing can change the family unit/influence its survival" just that capitalism has worked the best
Then you being pro family is downright stupid. Either you are in denial about the actual affects of capitalism. Or, as said elsewhere, you just want everybody to feel bad about this corpse you found and refuse to bury.

> has lifted billions out of poverty, go ahead and name a better system to do so (you cannot).
Unironically communism and socialism. Which is not me being pro communist, it's literally just factual viewing the actual world population.

>>283743736
See you are a commie i was right

>>283743751
>China and Russia
>Both communist
>Both fixed centuries of poverty.
Again, just being factual.

Capitalists really do have a issue with denying reality. I've got no issue with people being pro capitalists as long as they are at least honest about it and what they believe.

>>283743779
Russia and China are both shitholes

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>>283743736
>Then you being pro family is downright stupid. Either you are in denial about the actual affects of capitalism. Or, as said elsewhere, you just want everybody to feel bad about this corpse you found and refuse to bury.
Still a non-argument...
>>283743736
>USSR Stalin
>PRC Mao Zedong
>Khmer Rouge Pol Pot
>North Korea (DPRK) under the Kim dynasty
>Socialist Republic of Romania Nicolae Ceaușescu
>Socialist Republic of Vietnam & Laos (post-war period)
>Cuba under Fidel Castro
anon.....

>>283743795
They were demonstrably worse before communism and if you judge them to be shitholes, what are the none shitholes you are talking about? Hate to tell you this: the population of West Europe + USA is tiny in comparison to the rest of the world. I don't hear billions being lifted out of poverty, I see a tiny minority being uplifted in a very specific geographical region.

>>283743795
Fr imagine looking at a country currently at war and a country with giant inequality as good examples to copy

>>283742711
That's because it wasn't this bad 15 years ago

>>283743833
You know this wouldn't be a thing if you guys hadn't stopped our colonies
We were willing to share the wealth but you guys said it was racist or something

>>283743811
>Still a non-argument...
It's a perfectly valid argument. What does being pro family even mean, to you, if you admit it's dead and not coming back either?

>Communism killed 150 million
By that same logic capitalism killed about a billion people including both world wars.

>USSR Stalin
Largely saved the country from Germany. Best argument you could make is that somebody else could have done it with less blood involved, but that's debatable.

>PRC Mao Zedong
Replaced a regime that pretty much everybody saw as a complete failure and had no future.

>Pol Pot
CIA puppet.

>Socialist Republic of Romania Nicolae Ceaușescu
>Socialist Republic of Vietnam & Laos (post-war period)
Both better than the regimes they replaced.

>>Cuba under Fidel Castro
Infinitely better than the literal mafia state it replaced.

Seriously, why do you turn capitalism into religious mania?

>>283743864
Bait

>>283743901
Holy shit we have an actual apologist here

>>283743909
It's the truth

>>283743864
>You know this wouldn't be a thing if you guys hadn't stopped our colonies
Every single colony was demonstrably worse than after it became a free country in every measure in which it was possible to count.

>We were willing to share the wealth
Butchering Congo people for failing to meet a quota is not sharing wealth. Mass starvations campaigns in India are not sharing the wealth. Genocides in the middle east are not sharing hte wealth.

>>283743901
Anon, to any sane person you sound mentally ill trying to uplift these deeply evil and failed regimes. Capitalism is leaving you behind just like it did communism, it's about time you come back to reality.

>>283743864
Based colonialism apologist
>>283743901
Cringe commie apologist

>>283743914
>Apologist
Literally just being factual. I'm a historian, anon. Not a ideologue, like you.

>Communist regimes killed
Oh, to be sure. So did most regimes in history, especially including modern capitalist ones. I don't see any meaningful difference between them.

>>283743942
>I'm a historian
Of what Marxism?

>>283743915
When did the British give opium money to Chinese peasants?

>>283743930
>Anon, to any sane person you sound mentally ill trying to uplift these deeply evil and failed regimes.
To any sane person I sound like a person listing historical facts.

> failed
Explain to me how they failed. Stalin died still in power. Mao died still in power. Fidel Castro died still in power.

Only Nicolae and Pol pot can be considered failed regimes.

>>283743966
Didn't they give the opium what more do you need

>>283743976
Anon, what runs the world. Capitalism or communism.

>>283743934
Colonialism killed about a billion people by the way.

>>283743965
Modern history, including the cold war (Though I guess that is technically post modern).

>>283743979
>Didn't they give the opium what more do you need
Kek based

>>283743976
The two biggest communist countries couldn't even agree on how communism should be implemented and ended up splitting away from each other

>>283743985
Capitalism, obviously. Does that mean Stalin's regime retroactively failed? Is Peter the Great a failed regime now because monarchy has fallen out of fashion?

You are a ideologue first and foremost. You are unable to view things objectively.

>>283744003
The two biggest communist countries couldn't even agree on how communism should be implemented
Correct.

Does this mean both regimes failed? If so, then does that mean all capitalist regimes failed because they could not agree on how to best implement capitalism?

>>283744009
You are an unironic commie shill lol, you were attempting prop up stalin and mao. Most of planet earth see's someone like you as inherently evil and luckily the world left you people behind.

Comies are so cringe
Anyways post paul

>>283742390
Nice ChatGPT post

>>283743979
For silver, that's not sharing. Is me selling you fentanyl for money being generous?

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>>283744039
Father and son

>>283744033
>you were attempting prop up stalin and mao.
I'm being factual about stalin and mao. Were they good people? No. Were their regimes successful? Yes.

Were Ivan the terrible and Qin Shi Huang good people? No. Were their regimes successful? Yes.

>>283744072
>Were their regimes successful? Yes.
LOL

>>283744072
>successful
wtf is something wrong with you?

>>283744076
Yes, they were successful. Again, if you weren't a ideologue you could understand that.

>>283744086
Name a successful regime you like. Doesn't even have to be a dictator, a democratically ellected president is fine as well.

>>283744026
They have adopted state capitalist policies by now

>>283744109
Literally most of the west.
It's better than even your best communist states.

>>283744116
>They have adopted state capitalist policies by now
Okay, and?

Again, are all monarchies failures now retroactively?

>>283742390
>family oriented themes
You do understand that this shit is rightwing version of lgbt?
familyfags are gay, annoying and obnoxiuous as trannies.

>>283744142
They're not feasible in the current era

>>283744142
If you abandoned the communist policies how is that not a failure?
It's basically admitting your policies are bad.

>>283744109
Franklin D. Roosevelt , someone I respect as well. Do not give me another (you) commie filth.

>>283744158
wtf is a familyfag now

>>283744133
>Literally most of the west.
Most western regimes have killed literally billions. UK killed far more than the USSR or China ever did. America and Spain cleansed entire continents of life. France is still actively responsible for most problems in North Africa on top of insane bloodshed within Europe. Germany did World war 2, killing about 80 million people in total. The Netherlands butchered their way through Indonesia. Even freaking Belgium massacred thousands upon thousands in Africa.

The only country in West Europe you could call genuinly guiltless is Luxemburg.

>>283744164
And that is a perfectly valid argument to make against communist regimes.

>>283744167
>It's basically admitting your policies are bad.
Times changed, anon. That is easy to understand if you aren't a ideologue. What worked in ancient Egypt is no more applicable to modern Egypt.

>>283744172
>Franklin D. Roosevelt
He was probably the best one since he mostly kept his bloodshed contained to places like Japan and Germany that deserved it. Though, amusingly, he did get along very well with Stalin.

>>283742878
Didn't Rudy give them to Eris?
Notos branch are into big boobs while the Boreal branch is into kemonomimi.

>>283744187
>Oh no billions died
Bro, that was 500 years ago move on.
by comparison your commie regimes are younger.

>>283743927
>Every single colony was demonstrably worse than after it became a free country in every measure in which it was possible to count.
What about the United States? Checkmate

>>283743985
A mix of both actually, but more leaning into capitalism.

>>283744223
>by comparison your commie regimes are younger.
War on terror killed millions and that's even more recent.

Anyway point is
>Family = good
>Polygamy = good
>Capitalism = good
>Communism = cringe

>>283744292
No, that's not the point at all.

>>283744292
>family = good
Literally dead.

>Polygamy = good
Mostly agree there.

>Capitalism = good
Killed billions but that is okay when they do it.

>Communism = cringe
It is cringe, but it also helped billions out of poverty.

>>283744323
>, but it also helped billions out of poverty
Eh fair enough.

>>283744187
>>283744219
>>283744281
>>283744323
Communism failed very hard. You will never live to see another real attempt. You were left behind in the old world. You are outdated and defective. You will continue to scream into the digital void, as you are forced to live in a capitalist world whether you like it or not. Only for those echoes to be unheard.
>>283744292
This

>>283743976
I don't think any serious historian would try to defend the claim that the only or even most important measure of a regime's success and failure should considered to be whether the King/Dictator/General Secretary wasn't toppled at the time of his death. Especially when the political (or physical) survival of the King was never part of the set of primary goals which the system - communism in this case - was meant to accomplish to begin with. It's an absurd notion and calls into question the credentials you claim for yourself.

>>283744365
based

>>283744072
They're seething because they can't say that nazi germany was successful lmao.

>>283744365
Most commies online are highly suicidal due to le capitalist boogie man kek.

>>283744365
>Communism failed very hard.
Factually wrong.

>You will never live to see another real attempt.
Correct.

>You were left behind in the old world.
Who is (you) in this scenario? You are the one advocating for a deceased concept like family.

>>283744424
Hitler shot himself and the country was razed to the ground in slightly longer than a decade. The only somewhat successful far right regime was Franco.

>>283742758
>Your body, your choice.
>unless you're male and you don't want that child, you still have to work for it, only because the foid decided to keep it. Your body, but not your choice, now go to work you wageslave
Also, if it really is "your body" then what the fuck is wrong with you that you want to cut it out? All the child killing propaganda talks about children as some parasites, not "part of the body".
People who aren't mentally ill don't think about cutting out parts of their stomach they can live without.

People who aren't mentally ill actually treat their bodies with respect, and THAT'S something totally alien to whores who """"need"""" child killing.

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>>283744365
>>283744438
Communism is evil, Capitalism chads won.

>>283744492
>>unless you're male and you don't want that child, you still have to work for it, only because the foid decided to keep it.
That's valid.

>Also, if it really is "your body" then what the fuck is wrong with you that you want to cut it out?
If I got a hangnail, I want it out.

>People who aren't mentally ill actually treat their bodies with respect, and THAT'S something totally alien to whores who """"need"""" child killing.
If you want your body to stay healthy best option is to kill the child asap. Things are a fucking menace on your health and wellbeing.

>>283744458
>>283744537
Anons, most normalfags think you people are weird for treating children like diseases. You are mentally ill, deeply ill.

>>283744458
>>Communism failed very hard.
>Factually wrong.
>also reddit spacing
Anyway, if you definition of being "successful" means just successful propaganda and conquest of other countries and subjugating them, then sure, commies had quite a bit of success with that. But as usual you're being a disingenuous piece of shit by not specifying this part. So fuck off, nobody wants your death cult.

>>283744556
Most normalfags think abortions are a tragic necessity. It's unanimously a unpopular stance to be anti aboriton outside of literal religious schizos.

>>283744591
Im not anti abortion desu, you are a anti natalist freak though.

>>283744591
Most normalfags also don't think children are a disease.
You talk like an antinatalist.

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>>283744039
>most of Paul's moments

>>283744589
>Factually wrong.
Yes?

>Anyway, if you definition of being "successful" means just successful propaganda and conquest of other countries and subjugating them,
No, it means successful as in you actually maintain your regime and strengthen your position as a country. The USSR did that, even under Stalin. China did that under Mao.

What does success mean according to you? How happy everybody is? The GDP?

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>>283744617
Anti natalist implies I'm against childbirth. I think it's a perfectly acceptable choice to make. Just like I think it's a perfectly acceptable choice not to have kids.

It's, frankly, none of my buisness.

>>283744537
>If you want your body to stay healthy best option is to kill the child
Finally said it out loud, you have my (tiniest bit of) respect.
But no, still wrong, making yourself infertile on purpose isn't a sign of health. Killing your own children is also a sign of some illness. If you didn't want it, you should've just not fucked around like a whore. You know, just like all those "nazis" told you all the time.

>>283744637
Sure but the way you describe children leads me to believe you are anti natalist even if you say you aren't. 99% of humanity considers anti natalism evil so good luck with repressing it.

>>283744664
>Sure but the way you describe children
I don't actually think they are hangnails. Nor do I think you should kill a child just for your own protection. I was mostly making fun of your argument.

>>283744652
>making yourself infertile on purpose isn't a sign of health
Abortion doesn't make you infertile.

>>283744621
>definition of being "successful" means just successful propaganda and conquest of other countries and subjugating them,
>No, it means successful as in you actually maintain your regime and strengthen your position as a country.
Its literally the same thing you disingenuous piece of shit.

Communism is advertised as an utopia for everyone, it always ends up awful enough that tons of people want to leave it asap. So it failed. The end.
Now fuck of to reddit, you can't even type a post without spamming double line breaks everywhere.

>>283744323
>It is cringe, but it also helped billions out of poverty.
Yes. From poverty to misery.

Mushopedos are subhuman and deserved to be exterminated like bugs.

>>283744682
I dunno which argument you are referring to but my stance was capitalism lifted billions out of poverty and is the global system, communism collapsed and is considered a failed experiment from every country that attempted it while murdering 100s of millions leading to mass poverty and death. You will not convince most people with your argument when your argument has most people looking at observable reality and saying "yeah commies are fucked up demons lol". I dont care if you say "oh well lol the leader died before seeing it collapse", like wtf is that argument. Russia sure is a globally dominant power that beat Ukraine over night!

>>283744621
>uh Communism was successful because the regimes lasted more then anyone expected.
By that logic i could argue monarchy was the best thing because they lasted a bazilion years regardless of the pain caused to the subjects and that we should return to it.

>>283744695
>Its literally the same thing you disingenuous piece of shit.
Okay? I think there is a meaningful difference, but either way where is the disagreement.

>Communism is advertised as an utopia for everyone,
So your issue is the marketing?

>it always ends up awful enough that tons of people want to leave it asap
So, just like capitalism?

>So it failed.
That's not the reason why it failed.

>The end.
Then why are you such a ideologue about this?

>>283744706
They were already miserable being poor.

>>283744323
>It is cringe, but it also helped billions out of poverty
No? No it didn't? I can only question how you can be this stupid?

I'm not even a capitalistfag and I'm certainly not a rightoid but you have to be both retarded and have no understanding of human history of you think communism has uplifted billions.

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>>283742597
Agreed, it is ironic, but times have changed.
Far right extremism nowadays means wanting a family and a good society where your children can grow up and start families of their own. And one thing that hasn't changed, is that 4chan always loved right wing extremism.

>>283744823
this desu

ack's daily attempt to create a bait threat got derailed by two autists discussing history.
hilarious.

>>283744836
As long as he keeps himself contained here like the infestation he is then we're peachy.

>>283744836
Wait was this the guy having a meltdown when people just filled that nuke anime thread with nazi art.

Why are you such an attention whoring faggot OP?

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>>283744836
There are no bait MT threads though, even if they start out that way. Magic of a good series, always generates strong discussion.

>>283742390
>people think sex is for enjoyment, for fun, for recreation.
>responsible loving husband and father
LOL
dude literally cheats on his wife for recreation

>>283744621
Mao and Stalin maintained their respective regimes by a cunt's hair, but they didn't strengthen their position at all. Stalin almost killed his own regime by purging his army's officer corps in the runup to WWII. He only got lucky that the Western allies considered him the lesser Evil compared to literal Hitler and bailed him out with lend-lease. China under Mao was a total shitshow and the country only starts to become a serious player on the world stage thanks to Deng and his reformers. Both these regimes were paper tigers for the duration of the 20th century and only managed to fool their adversaries because everyone was too afraid of nukes to risk calling the commie bluff. Without nukes the 20th century would have gone very differently and not in favor of the commie tyrants.

>>283744753
>capitalism lifted billions out of poverty a
Which is a nonsense argument. Especially when you then turn around and claim everything but west Europe is a shithole. Then what countries are you talking about? Europe wasn't exactly the poorest place in the world when they started implementing capitalist policies and they sure as fuck didn't make everybody rich overnight.

>and is the global system,
Yes, there is no disagreement on that front.

>communism collapsed and is considered a failed experiment
The USSR collapsed. Even then, it's hardly viewed as a failed experiment within Russia.

>while murdering 100s of millions leading to mass poverty and death.
This is just straight up factually wrong. Russia wasn't some rich prosperous utopia before communism, it was a backwards autocracy that couldn't even wage a war. China was in a even worse position. Most of East Europe wasn't doing much better either. And the less said about Latin America the better.

> You will not convince most people with your argument when your argument has most people looking at observable reality and saying "yeah commies are fucked up demons lol"
Most people nowadays have a fairly objective view of history or they have no view whatsover. Communism happened. It had it's up sides, it's had it's downsides. Only insane ideologues like you threat it like the second coming of Satan nowadays.

>I dont care if you say "oh well lol the leader died before seeing it collapse",
What I care about is the facts. The USSR wasn't some failed state that somehow dragged itself along as a global superpower for half a century. When Stalin died, the USSR wasn't destined for collapse. There are actual demonstrable reasons for why things happened, none of which you can explain or understand.

Honestly i understand Stalin defense, but mao was so fucking bad his succesors like Deng intentionally did the opposite of his reign in order to distance themselves from the maoist ideas.

>>283744770
>uh Communism was successful because the regimes lasted more then anyone expected.
I don't want you to guess what I think makes communist countries successful. I want YOU to say what YOU think makes countries sucesfull.

>>283744823
Being far right nowadays means hating all of human civilizaiton and wanting it destroyed.

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>>283744965
>Without nukes the 20th century would have gone very differently and not in favor of the commie tyrants.
>he thinks the US could have won a conventional war against Russia or China when they got cucked by infinitely smaller countries repeatedly

>>283744983
>Most people nowadays have a fairly objective view of history or they have no view whatsover. Communism happened. It had it's up sides, it's had it's downsides. Only insane ideologues like you threat it like the second coming of Satan nowadays.
You live in lala land, the only real commies in the west are terminally online losers lol.

>>283744983
...Mushoku Tensei?

>>283744965
>Mao and Stalin maintained their respective regimes by a cunt's hair, but they didn't strengthen their position at all.
What the fuck do you mean they didn't? Stalin's regime wasn't about to collapse. Same for Mao.

>He only got lucky that the Western allies considered him the lesser Evil compared to literal Hitler and bailed him out with lend-lease.
Hitler never had a chance. But, either way, and? If he played his cards in such a way that he was viewed as the lesser evil then that is a victory. The USA only exists because France saw them as the lesser evil compared to the UK. The UK itself meanwhile only exists because the Pope saw William the conqueror as the lesser evil. Does that invalidate any of the accomplishments of the people involved?

>China under Mao was a total shitshow and the country
Compared to the Nationalist regime, it was a fucking utopia. At least you could walk ten feet without running into a bandit. Mao was a fuckup, but as a warlord his skill was fairly remarkable and it's part of the reason why he's still remembered well.

> Both these regimes were paper tigers for the duration of the 20th century
No they weren't? Nationalist China and the Tsar were. Even the USA military admitted that in case of a war with the USSR they would almost certainly get booted off the continent unless they deployed nukes.

>>283744998
Mao was mostly a capable warlord that largely brought a lasting peace to China and managed to restore some of their national honor. Compared to the literal centuries of failure preceding him any faults he had were easily overlooked.

>>283745025
People that still believe in red scare propaganda in 2025 are generally viewed as being terminally stupid.

>>283745087
Mushoku tensei has Nobility so it's technically semi capitalist.

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>>283742706
He was a good man when it counted.

>>283745142
Its a feudal society, just like essentially modern society is (almost all economic value and power is captured through different means by a tiny elite).

>>283745142
What no it's feudalism

>>283745197
>It's a feudal society
No, it's not. Nobody can write a proper feudal society in Isekai.

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>>283742390
this picture makes the globalism enjoyers piss and shit themselves with hate

>>283744983
>Which is a nonsense argument. Especially when you then turn around and claim everything but west Europe is a shithole. Then what countries are you talking about? Europe wasn't exactly the poorest place in the world when they started implementing capitalist policies and they sure as fuck didn't make everybody rich overnight.
when people say capitalism lifted billions out of poverty, they’re talking about the last 200 years globally like the industrial revolution, trade, private enterprise; not just London bankers in top hats.
Funny how the countries that copied capitalist economics (South Korea, Singapore, even post-Deng China) skyrocketed, while the ones that tried “anti-capitalism” ended up starving or shooting people for bread.
Capitalism didn’t make everyone rich overnight, just made being poor way less miserable and optional.
>The USSR collapsed. Even then, it's hardly viewed as a failed experiment within Russia.
Oh no way the Russians that were reeducated to believe that? You don't say.
>This is just straight up factually wrong. Russia wasn't some rich prosperous utopia before communism, it was a backwards autocracy that couldn't even wage a war. China was in a even worse position. Most of East Europe wasn't doing much better either. And the less said about Latin America the better.
No one said it wasn’t. But it wasn’t running death camps and engineered famines either.
Tsarist Russia = poor but industrializing fast.
USSR = poor, paranoid, and genociding farmers.
China = chaotic pre-Mao, sure. Mao takes over, starves 40 million people trying to smelt pots into steel. Then Deng adds capitalism, and than collapses.
Eastern Europe pre WWII wasn’t paradise, but under communism it turned into a grey queue for bread. Then they ditched it and started actually growing.
>Only insane ideologues like you threat it like the second coming of Satan nowadays.
No one except genuine losers such as yourself believe this btw. Go outside.

>>283745210
>It's feudalism
No, it's not. It's your typical boring mix of early modern values with medieval aesthetic.

>>283745240
>this is what they took from us

>>283745218
It literally is. Every society depicted in MT is more or less feudal (some are more primitive or tribal but it amounts to a similar lifestyle ultimately).

>>283742717
>zero sex drive outside of the one time a year they're in heat
Bullet dodged.

>>283745243
Commies will cope with their failure for eternity

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>>283745299
i doubt that's true for beastPEOPLE and besides we know they fuck outside their heat because Eris's grandad was porking his staff

>>283745243
> they’re talking about the last 200 years globally like the industrial revolution, trade, private enterpris
Which is a nonsense argument. West Europe wasn't noticeably poor, nor did the implementation of the industrial revolution or private enterprises see some kind of overnight increase in the wellbeing of everybody inside West Europe let alone outside. It mostly saw a decrease in the quality of life globally, frankly.

>Oh no way the Russians that were reeducated to believe that?
Most actual Russian people have such lingering trauma's leftover from teh 90's that they believe it by default.

>But it wasn’t running death camps and engineered famines either.
What the fuck do you mean they weren't? Gulags were literally invented by the Tsar, who frequently engaged in mass starvation to deal with troublesome segments of the population.

>Mao takes over, starves 40 million people trying to smelt pots into steel
do you know how many people the UK killed globally to smelt pots into steel? Spoiler: more than 40 million. A lot more than 40 million, in fact.

>Then Deng adds capitalism, and than collapses.
Two more weeks, right?

>Eastern Europe pre WWII wasn’t paradise
It was a backwards series of shitholes run by tinpot dictators murdering each other over minor scraps.

>Then they ditched it and started actually growing.
Depends on the country, really. The main thing that grew in Romania for instance is the amount of child sex trafficking.

>No one except genuine losers such as yourself believe this
No, you believe it. Cause you are insane AND a loser.

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>>283745240
Wish there was a version of this with extended family and friends too (Ruijerd with Norn, Cliff and Elinalise, Zanoba, Ginger and Julie).

>>283745282
>More or less feudal
Minus the part where is has no real feudal hierarchy or anything actual associated with the actual societies that existed during teh middle ages.

Having nobles around doesn't make your society feudal.

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>>283745299
They can still fuck the rest of the time + they get insanely horny once a year, sounds like a good deal to me.

>>283745368
Is it exactly like European middle ages feudal societies? No, but who fucking cares? Feudalism is commonly taken to mean rule by nobles, and there's more interesting similarities between different societies like that even if they weren't all exactly structured like the ones in Europe.

>>283745346
>It mostly saw a decrease in the quality of life globally, frankly.
Yeah, that’s why life expectancy, literacy, and population exploded after it, right?
Pre-capitalism: 90% of humanity lives on under $2/day, constant famine, infant mortality through the roof.
Post-industrial capitalism: population skyrockets, poverty drops by orders of magnitude, even in ex-colonies.
>Gulags were literally invented by the Tsar, who frequently engaged in mass starvation to deal with troublesome segments of the population.
The Gulag system under Stalin imprisoned 18 million, killed ~1.5 million, and turned political dissent into a death sentence.
That’s a scale issue, not just “the Tsar did it too.” If your argument is “they both did it,” congrats, you just admitted communism didn’t fix anything.
>do you know how many people the UK killed globally to smelt pots into steel? Spoiler: more than 40 million. A lot more than 40 million, in fact.
Comparing the British Empire’s 18th–19th century colonial abuses to a regime that starved 40 million of its own citizens is wild.
At least capitalism industrialized and enriched its colonies long-term (India’s GDP per capita grew faster post-market liberalization).
Mao’s China didn’t start growing until they abandoned communism.
>It was a backwards series of shitholes run by tinpot dictators murdering each other over minor scraps.
Sure, and communism made it poorer longer.
Compare Poland under the USSR to Poland after 1990, one was queuing for bread, the other joined the EU and quadrupled GDP.
Romania’s modern issues (like trafficking) aren’t “because capitalism,” they’re because of decades of communism that hollowed out civil society, the system you advocate for.
>No, you believe it. Cause you are insane AND a loser.
Oh the seethe is delicious from the filthy commie losers.

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>>283745354
i made that screencap

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I love beastgirls so much its unreal bros, what does Rifujin have against them that he cucks every beastgirl so badly?
>Ghislaine reduced to second fiddle and never getting much PoV action
>Linia humiliated and cucked at every fucking turn
>Pursena disappear from the story entirely

>>283743862
This.

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>>283745545
Linia is comedy relief in the show, that's how it goes.

>>283745545
He should just have turned Rudy into the biggest harem guy
So he gets the entire beast tribe

>>283745491
> No, but who fucking cares?
I care because it shows the lack of imagination. Isekai SHOULD be about interesting people going to interesting locations. Places that feel lived in and have a long history with it's own society influenced by it's own history.

>>283745598
True

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>>283745506
Blessed Elinalise enjoyer.

>>283742868
>It's not coming back either.
It will after the survivors of the on coming nuclear apocalypse emerge from their bunkers and caves.

>>283745599
I'll admit that Rifujin isn't exactly Tolkien, but I still haven't seen or read any isekai that does a better job.

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>>283745631
I need an Elinalise for a night.

Mushoku Tensei thread arguments are always funny.

>>283745492
Anon, don't waste time arguing with communists. They live online because the real world rejects them.

>>283742390

That´s only partially true though. Having children is ridiculously expensive these days. Responsible parenthood entails taking care of them for at least 20 years too, possibly more if one is to account for a college education. Furthermore good parenthood implies the parents should make every sacrifice to make this happen.

Here is were some of what you said starts to matter because while on previous generations this may have been acceptable that level of sacrifice is unacceptable for a generation of men children and free spirited women. True enough women have now been "empowered" and no longer need to be loyal to their partners regardless of the existence of a wedlock. This in turn has lead men to no longer care enough to play the game and thus the patriarchy and the family unit have been destroyed. That´s just not a context on which you´d want to have children.

>>283741369

The fuck it is. People don´t like Jobless because Rudeus is just a terrible MC. Not only he is a shit tier human being but he is passive as fuck. Nobody wants a tool MC with no agency that´s also a depressed pedobear. Same goes for an entitled simp like Subaru. They are literally the worse among the isekai bunch, and yes, i´m counting the literal deranged genocidal war criminal loli. Tanya, at the very least, is willing to earn her dream by getting her hands as dirty as needed even if that means antagonizing god itself.

>>283745492
This is a well structure rebuttal

>>283745385
>>283745328
Rudy wouldn't be happy if they weren't into it or were doing it out of obligation.

>>283745713
Rudeus is the best isekai mc by far and its not even close.

>>283745665
Yeah this complaining that isekai isn't the best genre dosen't change the fact that MT is still one of the better ones in it.

>>283745492
Fuck you capitalist pig

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>>283745684
I'd even be willing to share Elinalise with a couple of anons.

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>>283745713
>Nobody wants a tool MC with no agency that´s also a depressed pedobear. Same goes for an entitled simp like Subaru
I've watch all of MT available and the first season of re:zero and I couldn't disagree more. Subaru's arrogance is entirely unearned; he is weak, stupid, vainglorious; if he didn't savescum he would be nobody. ABSOLUTE ZERO no-achievement loser.
Rudy by contrast is extremely gifted and accomplishes many things. He also fails, many many times, because he is only human and fallible. And unlike Subaru he must live with his numerous failures, which is part of what makes him so interesting.
I am aware of Oldeus but afaik he's not a PoV character and that's a discarded timeline only Oldeus has to live with. Rudeus could have been Oldeus but will not be because of the knowledge passed on. This is a one-time gift not a get out of every situation free card like with that cuck Subaru.

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>>283745684
I need Elinalise for a lifetime.

>>283745841
this

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>>283745841
>not a get out of every situation free card
what is Orsted.

>>283744836
ack is reaching lowcow levels not though possible, every bait thread xe makes get derailed and raped into oblivion kek

>>283745903
>>283744883
>>283744954
>>283744836
Who is "ack"?

>>283745841
god linia is built to be groped

>>283745922
the op

>>283745898
idk I haven't read the books. Does he bail Rudy out excessively? I got the impression from bookfags he was a tough boss and expected results.

>>283745938
I don't get it, so they are larping?

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>>283745936

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>>283745948
>Does he bail Rudy out excessively
nah, only twice against unsurpassable opponents. I was shit posting mostly.

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NANAHOSHI STAR

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>>283745970

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>>283745849
Cliff...

>>283745492
>Pre-capitalism: 90% of humanity lives on under $2/day, constant famine, infant mortality through the roof.
Most of humanity had that until literally a few decades ago. Assuming "Whitey is evil" and colonialism fucking everything up is equally if no tmore plausible than your theory, and I don't even believe that. Nothing indicates Capitalism is the reason. Correlation does not equal causation.

>The Gulag system under Stalin imprisoned 18 million, killed ~1.5 million, and turned political dissent into a death sentence.
I can't find any evidence that more than 11 million people were imprisoned in a Gulag PERIOD. Let alone UNDER Stalin.

>Comparing the British Empire’s 18th–19th century colonial abuses to a regime that starved 40 million of its own citizens is wild.
Who gives a fuck about your own citizens? If the USSR had said everybody that starved from the Holodomor was living in occupied territory, would it have suddenly been okay?

>At least capitalism industrialized and enriched its colonies long-term
it didn't industrialize fucking shit until after the colonists left and most of the reason why India was able to liberalize and modernize was due to the cold war and the USSR existing.

>Sure, and communism made it poorer longer.
They got them to behave long enough for a peaceful status quo to exist.

>one was queuing for bread, the other joined the EU and quadrupled GDP.
How is "Joining the EU" part of capitalism? You know the USSR asked to join Nato, right?

>Oh the seethe is delicious from the filthy commie losers.
I'm being factual.

>>283745650
>family values person openly espouses their view that all of human civilization should be destroyed.
Called it in this very thread...

>>283745903
Is a thread hitting bump limit rather than immediately being archived supposed to be a fail?
>>283745922
Its an imaginary thread character or bogeyman at this point.

>>283745990
>>283745970
made for nursing handjobs

>>283745781
All Isekai is junk and I'm not going to let MT get away with teh line being lowered just because it's less junk than other Isekai.

>>283746044
Meow

>>283745975
tbf his entire existence is a deus ex machina, at least as much as oldeus

nobody in this thread had sex, let alone started a family

>>283746052
Fair im just saying you can't really blame MT for the problems inherent in its genre.

>>283746052
MT has gotta be the least-junk isekai of all time. It's undeniably of the genre but it's good.
It's one of the reasons I got back into watching anime.

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nom nom

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>>283742390
>But Rudeus dares to be a responsible loving husband and father
Unbelievable but true.

it's cute how ack tries to downplay himself as a mere bogeyman whenever he's been called out.

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>>283746056

>>283745713
This, cheating your wife and poly/hypergamy is degeneracy
>>283742390
Its not healthy when chad has a harem and the rest has nothing

>>283746032
>should
no, will. It's inevitable, humanity is gonna restart.

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Rudeus is only the second best isekai MC thoughever. He loses to Nagumo by almost every conceivable metric: conviction and force of personality, quality of harem, power level.

>>283746011
>Most of humanity had that until literally a few decades ago.
Sure, and capitalism is what drove that number down from ~90% to under 10% in just 200 years. That’s literally a record unmatched by any other system. Industrialization, trade, markets, and private property caused the explosion in wealth, technology, life expectancy, and literacy.
Correlation isn’t causation? Okay... then why did the USSR, Maoist China, and North Korea all fail to produce that same progress until they adopted markets?
>I can't find any evidence that more than 11 million people were imprisoned in a Gulag PERIOD.
Sources vary but even conservative estimates put ~18 million people sent through Gulags under Stalin, with ~1.5–2 million dying from forced labor, starvation, or execution.
Even 11 million is still massive, far beyond anything in Tsarist Russia, which makes your “Gulag = Tsarist thing” point irrelevant. Scale matters.
>Who gives a fuck about your own citizens?
Exactly, you should care. That’s the difference between a system that incentivizes innovation, trade, and voluntary cooperation vs. one that can starve millions without consequence. The USSR didn’t just fail to protect its citizens, it actively killed them. That is a moral AND systemic failure, which capitalism minimizes by rewarding efficiency and consent.
>it didn't industrialize fucking shit
False. British India, for instance, saw railroads, telegraphs, ports, and modern industry introduced under colonial capitalism.
And post-independence economic liberalization in India wouldn’t have succeeded without the market institutions and trade networks left behind. The USSR’s existence may have encouraged some liberalization, but industrialization and wealth creation come from markets, not threats.
(cont)

>>283746117
Cat is overrated
Post the dog

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>>283746097
nude rudeus did things to me, i'm impressed geese was so cool about it.

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>>283746139

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>>283746067
I could if I tried but I rather being alone for the moment. Women are kind of ticking time bombs, and I don't want to ruin my life.

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>>283746139
nyo
Linia supremacy

>>283746133
>They got them to behave long enough for a peaceful status quo to exist.
And at what cost? Poverty, famine, and repression. A “peaceful status quo” under communism is just a polite way of saying “everyone stayed poor and scared for decades.” Markets actually create prosperity and long-term stability, which is why Eastern Europe’s GDP quadrupled after adopting capitalism, not because of NATO or EU membership alone.
(2, end)
I'm sorry that you are mentally ill commie bro, please go outside and leave your mothers basement.

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>>283746141
I aspire to be as cool as prison child Rudy.

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>>283744323
>leftoid
>reddit spacing

>>283746176
>>283746133
Good ack raping, well done.

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>>283746124
>force of personality
Hajime is just another generic edgelord protag
>Quality of harem
lol fuck no, outside of Yue the rest suck, and yes that includes Shea. Eris alone shits on the entire Arifureta harem and I say that as a Sylphie loyalist.

The other points are fine, I guess.

>>283742390
>Not healthy male sexuality its about family oriented themes as the deathcult/wokefriends absolutely hates the idea of people forming families and having children.
With 3 wives and a maid like a true muslim. Inshallah!
>If MT was about some loser reincarnating into a fantasy world and just having a harem with 3 chicks, nobody would give a fuck.
lol,
lmao even

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>>283746153
Pursena is so fucking hot, I want to rawdog her until my meat can no longer stand.

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>>283745713
>Responsible parenthood
>college
FUCKING LMAO

>>283746223
Pursena is built for comfort.
Linia is built for speed.

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>>283746215
>sister is named Aisha
>son is named Saladin
>practices polygamy
>lives and abides under Sharia law(literally the town where he settles down is called sharia)
>prays 5 times a day
>wives are pure and untainted
>is a follower of the al-Masih
>is waging a lifelong jihad against the False Allah

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>>283746212
You are insane, Shea together with Yue are a force of pure sexual energy while alone they're both kind of meh.

>>283746133
>Exactly, you should care. That’s the difference between a system that incentivizes innovation, trade, and voluntary cooperation vs. one that can starve millions without consequence. The USSR didn’t just fail to protect its citizens, it actively killed them. That is a moral AND systemic failure, which capitalism minimizes by rewarding efficiency and consent.
Based

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>>283746259
>sexual energy
Thought we were talking about the quality of the harem in the story, not about their "Sexual Energy" and if that's the case they still lose to Eris and Roxy.

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>>283746251
both are built for rape

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reminder

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>>283746257
Doesn't he consume alcohol? Also he only prays to a shrine containing his waifu's underwear.
We should instead examine the virtues of polygamy without the insidious Islamic trappings.

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>>283746303
I believe you mean Eris and Sylphie.

>>283746349
that's just a MT thread copypasta.

>>283746327
rape is bad mmkay as is hazing beastgirls, i can't approve of either.

>>283746257
>That Time i got reincarnated to spread the word of allah in a new world.

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>>283746385
Eris approves

>>283746133
History autist

It brings a smile to my face knowing that MT threads are almost always derail with MTfags facing abuse. Pedo fucking rats. Serves you subhumans right.

>>283746396
jobless reincarnation will of god

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>>283746411
this woman is in her 60s.

>>283746449
Look at those wrinkles, hag

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>>283746327

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>>283746141
made for ryona

>>283746514
no.
now if you're serious, can you briefly explain why you want to see these characters suffer?

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>>283746535
No idea, seeing rudeus bloodied and battered is just hot to me

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>>283746562
weird fetish

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>>283746385
Its a shame they never adapted the part where Ariel and retinue first arrives at the school, and Fitz kicks the shit out of the beast girls.

>>283746411
There are no threads on this board that doesn't somehow get derailed thoughever.

>>283746630
Hot

>>283745713
>pedo
>simp
Face the wall

>>283746630
We already have one fight where Rudeus puts them in their place so it would have been redundant.