>people have been making fun of light novels for years on /a/>currently has almost taken over the entire anime and manga medium with non-stop isekai and native isekai adaptionsWas /a/ always wrong?
I can't believe I got reincarnated as a fat faggot loser OP who makes threads to shadow box with other loses because I have no noteworthy social life outside of the image board
/a/ is a joke board so what it makes fun of is good.
>>284509953>isekai and native isekai adaptionsstop trying to push this retarded term. just because a fantasy show has shit like dq elements and is full of isekai tropes doesn't make it a 'native isekai'.
>>284509953No. The people who were making fun of this shit left and were replaced by underage morons and trolls.
>>284509953when have popular things ever been good?
>>284509953What is Eris thinking about?
>>284510099I don't mind the term. We need something to describe isekai stories that don't have reincarnation. It works.
>>284510111ever since dragon ball
>>284509953>Was /a/ always wrong?This board is dead, and every single oldfag has left. Of course it's overrun by Gen Z's with shit opinions now. You can't compare how /a/ is now vs how /a/ was pre-Covid./a/ used to be a top 3 board, and now it's lucky to even have 20 posts per minute.
>>284509953when were you under the impression that isekai was when LNs took over? popular 2000s battle harems and romcoms were all lightnovels.
>>284510136>I don't mind the term.Because you are a retard.>we need something to describe <transported to other world> stories that don't have reincarnationThere's no such thing as "native transported to another world"
Making fun of light novels wasn't a significant thing in the past on /a/Consolewarring over original source material is mostly the kind of garbage bait thread you'd see on modern /a/
>>284509953Only Low IQs believe that popular always equals good.Light novels are popular in the same way that fast food is popular. Quick and easy, scratches that itch, but ultimately meaningless and wasteful.>>284510150This is true. Every board on the site seems to be overrun with bots as well. I'm just waiting for gookmoot to pull the plug already and get me out of this hellhole.
>>284510136>We need something to describe isekai stories that don't have reincarnation.You mean fantasy stories full of isekai tropes? Why not just say this instead of making up a contradictory term up that will only get streched further and furhter the more the genre changes. The single most defining thing about an isekai is the transportation to another world; everything else doesn't make an isekai - only this does. Trying to define the genre by its (current) tropes instead of that is completely asanine.
>>284509953Sex with this retard
>>284510481Peak Eris.
>>284510150>pre-covid used as a sign of high quality>boards are only good when constantly spammed with traffic and generalsTry pre-2010s, newfag trash.
>>284510572You can probably count the number of people who were here when Gurren Lagann aired with two hands.
>>284510150The worst part is that a large portion of those posts are now from backwater third world countries.
>>284509953Light Novels pre-2000s were for novelizations of TTRPG sessions, also known as "replays". Stuff like Slayers and Lodoss Senki. Then in the 2000s they became a medium for cheap knock-offs of popular rom-com, battle-harem and ecchi manga from that time. You always got the typical package of high school, urban fantasy, fake-harem where CF loses and first non-CF girl wins, shitty "kyaa hentai" slapstick comedy that no one but editors/producers cared about, the obligatory onsen episode, the obligatory beach episode, sometimes included ecchi as well, but there was almost never any sex because the ultra-purist otakus which the editors were convinced were the core audience of these kinds of packages would be deeply offended by it as they view the MC as a "rival" in their affections for their waifus. This concept warped over time with the final form being the "magical high school" setting in the early 2010s. Stuff like Highschool DxD and ZnT. There were also outliers like SAO and CotE.Finally in the 2010s isekai came to the spotlight and Kadokawa poured a lot of money into it which triggered a chain reaction where other publishers also took part in the "primordial chaos" that is Narou and Kakuyomu. The quality vastly differs between different isekai but the fact that editors get no say until after the story and characters have already established their identity and popularity make them far more authentic compared to what came before. Stuff like Tensura, MT and Re:Zero. The Banished from the Party concept branched out from isekai, e.g. Shadow Healer and A-Rank Party. When people make fun of Light Novels they either use particular bad examples as strawmen (e.g. "MUH dual-wielding skill? WOW!") or just outright cite flaws of the 2000s LNs as if they were still present in the 2010s+ LNs (they aren't) because they are either being disingenuous or because they or whoever they quote actually only read 2000s LNs and never anything newer.
We should probably get around to making a distinction between actual light novels, and adaptations of light novels that are themselves adaptations of webnovels.
/a/ is always wrong; look at look at the popularity of shonen slop
>>284510136Just call them fantasy stories.Even if Elly the Elf who is from her native world of Elfia since her soul was formed pulls up a status screen, that is still a Fantasy series.'Native Isekai' is more retarded than calling 21+ year old virgin women with big tits 'MILF'
The reality is no one uses or needs this term. Sometimes someone will call a shoelacer story isekai. They might get corrected or not and the response is "oh ok". That's what happens organically. This also means you don't need an elaborate term. Who the fuck is going to insist that actually the story needs to be called "double isekai"? That's stupid. It's like a lgbt person trying to force their pronoun. If you see someone forcing an elaborate buzzword for this phenomena like "double isekai" 100% of the time it means they're trolling and you can dismiss the post.
>>284512806But in fact, insisting on only calling a work "isekai" if it has someone traveling from our world to the fantasy world is misplaced pedantry.If you have a porn plot about a dude getting seduced by his curvy, horny, middle-aged, but childless aunt, no one would blink at calling it MILF porn. Meanwhile a 21 year old waif or lolibaba can technically be a MILF but without any of that appeal.It's the reason why "Alice in Wonderland is isekai" while semantically correct, is wrong usage, and "I, The Cheat Skill Dildo-Maker, Got Kicked Out Of My SSS-rank Party So I'm Going To Build a Dungeon With My Slave Harem is isekai" seems like a natural use of the term even it features no dimensional travel or even reincarnation.
>>284509953>native isekaiNot a thing, kill yourself immediately.
>>284512806every fiction work can be called fantasy because it isn't real
>>284509953They're still shit and the anime adaptations don't prove anything
>>284515081Yes it is The term keeps being used by people who don't understand itBut that doesn't mean it shouldn't exist
>the buzzword NEEDS to exist even if no one uses it, or needs to, ok? it just does xd
>>284509953Her leaving was the telltale sign that the story was gonna go to shit. Relationship was neatly crafted over the course of a couple of years only to get thrown in the trash so a harem wish fulfillment would be possible.
>>284509953have any of these light novels ever actually ended? whenever i look up any of them they are like 20+ volumes and going infinitely
>>284515358The fact that it's a buzzword in the first place is a result of idiots adopting it to mean "thing I don't like"
>>284509953>popularity = qualityanon...
I miss Cunny Eris.
>>284516479I think we all miss Cunny Eris.
>>284509953Eris sex
>>284516479How about preggo big tiddy Eris roaming the streets of Sharia beating up random slave traders to steal theri cat girls?
>>284516803Inferior.
>>284509953I don’t even know what a light novel is.
>>284516742Child Eris: very acceptableTeen Eris: absolute peakAdult (Cow) Eris: fertility goddess, but she does nothing for me, a true lolicon.
>>284516860it's like a thin paperback.
>>284516860it weighs less than a regular novel
>>284509953Light novel authors are pretentious hacks producing slop, go read the works of a real author like Agatha Christie instead
>>284510099Maybe stop saying "tropes make the isekai" and seething about tropes in general and you might get somewhere.
>>284509953>popular means good and other fallacies.jpg
Norn is a lucky girl.
>>284518652>That look in his eyes; you just KNOW...
>>284509953I've only read one LN, it was bookworm and it was good.
>>284509953>still crying about LN when women-pandering shit is the new all-engulfing cancer
LNs are just there. They come out by the truckload and all fight for an audience. It’s never meant to go much further beyond that.
>>284514032>But in fact, insisting on only calling a work "isekai" if it has someone traveling from our world to the fantasy world is misplaced pedantry.It's LITERALLY translated to 'different' or 'other' world.
>>284519014the film Army of Darkness and the book A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court are isekai.would Peter Pan be isekai? does it have to be permanent and irreversible or can it be a place you just dip in and out of.
I'm genuinely only watching this to see if they fuck up Orsted 2.
>>284510099>>284515081We desperately need a word filter for this stupidity.
>>284510099it's usually used as an insult. doesn't need to make that much sense to convey its meaning.
>>284509953always has beed
>>284519193Just because we associate more than just the transportation to another world aspect with the isekai genre doesn't mean that this isn't the most defining thing about it. Calling any of these an isekai is less retarded than calling a fantasy story without this central aspect a 'native isekai'.
>>284509953Isekai is a content mill in Japan like superheroes in America for a reason.But god damn do I wish they did something interesting with the genre beyond 'what if you, a loser, are in a fantasy rpg, get overpowered stats and a bunch of chicks who want to fuck you'Yes I know there are more LNs manga that play with the premise bit how many get animated by corpos out for a buck? Like why has that manga about law graduate isekai into becoming a reformer for a mediaeval stasis kingdom not animated?
>>284509953Aren’t they made to be turned into anime? They’re like scripts
Still not reading the endless isekai slop. I would rather read some real novels instead. Japanese media is mostly about visuals for me
>>284509953Every 4chan board is a joke. You must be a retard to take anything posted here seriously. The only board that actually predicts reality closer to what actually happens is unironically /pol/ which everyone hates.
Popular things can't possibly be bad. There's no way there's that many dumb people on the planet.
>>284524132I'm in despair.
when will the nips finally adapt actual literature, like one flew over the cuckoo's nest, bruges la morte, or the shadow over innsmouth?
>>284524132This is unironically true. People saying otherwise just hadn't their favourite trash scrutinized that much. Recently I watched Monster which is praised a lot as being one of the best psychological thrillers and better than Death Note and shows of that kind out there and turns out it's one of, if not the worst and dumbest thrillers I've watched.
>>284509953We make fun of it in an endearing way. All anons deserve their Roxy.
>>284510150>/int/ is top 5 biggest board above /b/How did that happen
I like LNs
Would you accept her, 8-pack and all?
The only LN I've read is Youjo Senki. Seems pretty good to me. If most light novels are comparable to that, then I don't get why people would hate on them.
>>284509953Fuckin Haruhi and Full Metal Panic were LNs retard its nothing new
