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My favorite romcoms are the ones where the guy and girl already have experience.
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Degenerates.
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Shit taste
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>>284796443
I prefer when the girl has tons of experience but the guy is virgin.
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>>284796443
Bait thread
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>>284796600
that's the only way for herbivore males to get some
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>>284796846
the manga is literally about to end in a few chapters and they STILL have not fucked, despite her being basically a bus stop throughout middle and high school before dating him, and they're about to go into even further long-distance relationship mode soon. This manga is such trash ragebait, it doesn't even do a good job of slut with a pure heart reformation bullshit.
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>>284796443
My favorite romcoms are ones are a cute teenage girl seduces an older woman
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>>284796443
This is such a sweet and romantic manga.
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>>284797044
It would have been better if MC was actually into netorase and embraced her slut self.
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>>284796495
>>284796568
>>284796622
>muh degeneracy!
Go back
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I've heard of this one Do one of them ever actually develop feelings or is it just a permanent friends with benefits thing
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>>284797273
Right now they're still just best friends who sleep with each other.
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Grass-eater with real development is still superior.

The chapters of Takamine where she internally crashes when herbivore-kun actually gets shit done and blows her away are pure kino.
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>used goods slop for women and trannies
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His boss with the virgin loli body is actually the endgame so I am okay with it.
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>>284797273
That'd ruin the point so no.
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>>284797586
>best friends who sleep with each other
They're practically happily married.
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>>284796443
>The knee highs stay on!
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>>284798104
Yeah, I would have thought that's what a 'good' relationship should be like. A romantic interest you're potentially planning to be with for a significant chunk of your life needs to be someone you actually want to be around. Best friends with sex seem like the ideal marriage (or long term relationship), really.

But hey, what do I know, I'm just some anon on an anime board and zero romantic experience and in real life you probably need to compromise.
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>>284796443
have either of them admitted that they actually like each other romantically yet? not reading again until the plot actually progresses
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>>284796443
Damn I totally forgot about this. Is it still getting new chapters?
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>>284797586
>>284798104
>>284798964
Would you wanna marry a fuckbuddy? You might not even be the only one let alone the amount of friends before you.
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>>284799634
They've admitted they're best friends, which is progress of sorts. They're too busy fucking to do much thinking.
>>284799936
Oh no the incel is seething whoever could have forseen this?
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>>284797273
Them ending up together is the obvious end game but I doubt it'll happen until the series ends. I think the whole point is their previous relationships fucked them up so hard mentally that it's kinda ruined the idea of dating for them. The most recent translated chapter even shows the male MC has a little trauma from it. Basically just enjoy the ride until the author gets tired of the series.
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>>284799936
Cucks don't care about that
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>>284799634
>>284800115
His senpai finally got up the nerve to make a pass and now they're fucking as well, but they've all been good friends up to this point and so far the FMC's just overjoyed that they both have a thing for the MC, still waiting for the inevitable where she or the senpai finally realizes they want more
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>>284796443
Sorry but I'm not pathetic enough to read a "romance" about some used goods. That's for losers like you.
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>>284799936
They are exclusive fuckbuddies who only fuck each other.
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>>284796443
I don't understand most of these romcom stories. There's not much romantic comedy to even be had prior to getting in a relationship with someone. Becoming bf/gf is the "start" of a relationship in a sense, it's when two people see if they are compatible for each other long term. A romcom should start there, then explore their relationship. Yet it feels like all of these stories treat the bf/gf stage as the "end goal" but that can't be how it works for most people, right? Admittedly I dislike romcoms so I don't actually know how prevalent this is but all the popular ones I see seem to have that structure. What gives? Is it different in nipponland?
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>>284800215
Being in your 30s and 40s obsessing over virgins is pathetic actually. You missed out on teenage relationships, the ship has sailed, move on.
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>>284800319
Being in your 30s and 40s and obsessing over virgins is pretty based actually.
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>>284796495
Based anon who only reads romcoms that involve married partners.
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>>284800319
Good thing I'm not in my 30s and 40s but I'm sure I won't end up as pathetic as you once I reach that age.
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>>284800304
There are lots of romcoms out there that start with them dating. Also most of these are set in high school and it's pretty normal in high school to know someone for a bit before you start dating them, you're going to be seeing them for months after all. It's not until you become an adult and you only meet people through dating apps and shit where that becomes the norm.
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>>284800401
So I guess it's moreso that a lot of the popular ones I hear of are just the middle/highschool romcoms?
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>>284800304
There are a bunch of romcoms where they start already in a relationship or get into one in the first few chapters. Most of them are boring, even by romcom standards.
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>>284800304
There’s plenty of romcoms that start with them already as a couple, or at least get to that point quickly. It doesn’t always have to be the end goal, but sometimes those can be good as well

The only ones I can’t stand are the ones where it’s like neither of them is even trying to pursue the other one or they’re being all tsundere about it with zero actual relationship progress until they decide to become a couple at the end. That shit gets old fast and rehashes the usual tropes even faster than normal
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>>284800304
OP manga isn't a romcom but an ecchi SoL adapted from the author's prior hentai work.
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>Couple meets in episode 1 and confesses by episode 2
>Rest of the series is just them being a loving couple getting into misadventures
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>>284796600
>>284796846
>>284797044
Has this gay shit still not ended? The MC is probably one of the most unbearably spineless faggots in any "romance" manga
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>>284796443
Bait thread or mental retardation.
Only a sad man would settle down for someone else's sloppy seconds.
The best romcoms are the ones where the guy has experience and the girl is a virgin.
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>>284800638
You aren't suppose to post actually good romcoms on the bait thread.
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>>284800744
Oh...I didn't know it was bait, I hadn't read it.
I thought OP just had shit taste.
Here Anon, have some more, hook free.
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Sauce? Saucenao is failing me
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>>284796443
That's fucking disgusting
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>>284800790
OP is retarded and has shit taste, no doubt about it. But if he wanted to have an honest discussion about that cringe shitshow of a series, he would have chosen a different title for the thread. But then the thread would probably have died after three posts.
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>>284800304
Difference between men and women. Men see getting together as the end of the story, women see it as the start. Try reading female aimed series.
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>>284800907
>have an honest discussion about that cringe shitshow of a series
I don't understand why are you so mad at that series, that series doesn't even try to be a serious deep work for you to be this assblasted
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>>284800604
Name?
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>>284800939
>calling a series a cringe shitshow
>assblasted
Imbecile
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>>284800115
Weird projection.
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>>284800907
>cringe shitshow
What’s wrong with it?
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>>284800304
Because otaku and money anon, otaku want cute girls and give money to see cute girls in anime and manga but at the same time they care too much about purity to the point some waifufags prefer the girl to lose so she isn't "sullied" by the main character.
On the other hand, in shoujo and josei manga the relationship IS the main thing so it isn't weird to have manga that the relationship starts very early and it goes from there.
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>>284800790
OP's manga is great. Don't knock it until you try it. They might be FWB but their relationship is very wholesome.
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>>284796443
My favorite is the middle schooler and the middle aged man romantic comedy.
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>>284801364
What's the fucking name? Saucenao gives nothing
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>>284801425
Kouiu no Ga Ii. Google lens is way more reliable than saucenao these days.
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>>284800304
real answer: because the best part of a relationship is the effort and experience of trying to get into one. once you're in a relationship, all that remains is the obligation to keep the status quo aka a chore.
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>>284801489
What a bleak viewpoint. Why even bother then?
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>>284801267
>some waifufags prefer the girl to lose
Those are a minority. Most waifufags want to see their waifu win the MC-bowl.
On the other hand, caring about purity is normal and only cucks and wannabe failed normalfags don't.
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>>284801243
NTA
The whole premise
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>>284801364
>used slut
>wholesome
Cuckcel
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>>284801364
>black and white 3D images with anime characters drawn on top
I can't be the only one who despises this shit. Sticks out like a sore thumb
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>>284796443
those are the most shit
if I wanted to read about vapid people I'd just do irl shit
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>>284802024
Most manga do it nowadays except for like art stuff on Harta or whatever

The art of the background is fading away to technological progress - in anime it's pretty entirely dead
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How do you feel about used goods (lesbian)?
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>>284796443
I know this guy draws Hentai as well but I can't find him by his current author name anywhere, any hints?
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>>284796443
She joins her friend ina a threesome with her friend's stepson
>>284796495
This
Every character in this manga are one dimensional degenerates. I really don't know who this kind of shit keeps going. Should've stay in the hentai doujin dimension
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>>284800183
damn. I was hoping the love competition was going to force them to admit that they actually want to be in a relationship. the story's just going to be weird now.
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>>284800304
They're neither romantic nor comedy. This is just a SoL of two boring very promiscuous degenerates who only have sex. No romance involved, and have no comedy in the entire manga
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i recognize that fucking artstyle
isnt this the same mangaka that writes the black gyaru manga?
the batshit insane one where everyone in a black gyaru school wants to fuck their teacher whos a virgin and has a fucking 14 inch cock?
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This author also draw at least other two manga. One with a "teacher" who has a super penis and cums a lot onto gyarus in a gyaru delinquent school and other with a guy who has a miracle semen that allows women to keep their zombiefication at bay in a post apocaliptic world. -And I think that there was another in which it was a action-horror manga. Plus his hentai works.
They're all shit, of course
I dunno how he does it
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>>284802679
>One with a "teacher" who has a super penis and cums a lot onto gyarus in a gyaru delinquent school
Oh god, these have the same author?
That explains a lot.
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>>284802679
>I dunno how he does it
It's hard to write anything good about sluts.
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>>284802679
wish I knew that before I wasted my time expecting Kouiu no Ga Ii to have actual plot progression
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>>284800183
>His senpai finally got up the nerve to make a pass and now they're fucking as well
Damn, I can't believe the author introduced a lesbian character just to cuck her
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>>284802679
Quality is not a requirement for coomers as long as it tickles the monkey brain. Pretty easy gig appealing to retards.
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>>284801267
has it ever occured to you that what otakus both male and female want are the same, and it hardly involves the need for hot people in their romance?
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>>284802223
I hate toxic yuri with a passion. it is made by deranged broken women for deranged broken troons. "purest form of love" my faggot ass
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>>284803850
I have more respect for furries because at least they have standards of their own
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>>284797044
It was originally a LN and they do have sex at some point in it.
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>>284804030
Girl got burnt on a bad ex, chill. She's already been healed by the blonde airhead.
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>>284797127
give some examples
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>>284797044
>the manga is literally about to end in a few chapters

The manga announced an end? Is there is still many content to adapt from the LN
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>>284803345
>Bisexual character
The author made a flashblack from the yuri girl literally showing her sucking a dick while her teenager years
She will kiss her boss but to share the cum of the MC
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>>284800648
>The MC is probably one of the most unbearably spineless faggots in any "romance" manga
This, the guy makes look even KAZUYA as an alpha chad macho man in comparison
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>>284796443
I skimmed over a few chapters of this, this is basically just a normal modern relationship
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>>284802631
Yes
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>>284804649
>normal
huh? ...y- yeah...
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>>284804183
I never read the LN, but I remember seeing the announcement that the manga is reaching an end by February or March next year.
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>>284802544
I think that's the ultimate point of the senpai catching feelings, but maybe the author will just make a casual feel-good manga where everyone just fucks and has a good time, that's fine too
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>>284796443
whats the manga where it's about trying to get Sex Friends and the main guy just tries to fuck every girl in the gyaru's social circle once she gets him going?
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>>284796443
not a romcom
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>>284796846
>>284797044
Oh god this is the one where she was experienced and there has been a 2 years timeskip, they are in Uni and still haven't done it?

Call me crazy but I think making the sex the very last thing they do overinflates its value to the point that they just perpetuate the idea of being the end of it all in a relationship in Manga.
Anyone who doesn't like non-virgin girls in Manga will just use this as a confirmation of how bad they are.
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>>284800418
Not that anon but I would say so, most of the popular ones are dry shit that goes "will they won't they" for a hundreds chapters, they might tease progress and then once the author knows they are successful they will just add arbitrary obstacles that were never planned.

>>284801489
when I look at a friend, the best part is when you pass that threshold where you are both comfortable with each other and don't have to put up the same barriers for fear of losing him, why wouldn't it be the same with a relationship?
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>>284796443
>romcom
There's no romance between them. They just have casual sex and keep it that way.
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>>284805049
>Infinite gyaru sex
That one seems to be on a sort of hiatus, comes out very slowly, cant remember the last english chapter (is licensed), but basically all the girls try to bed him, many of them seem to have had sex, there are various teachers who are having sex with each other but he always denies them, so is like one of those generic ecchi Harem manga.
Drawn well sure and I might read it one day, but only if is ever finished and doesn't just end with a timeskip.
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>>284799936
How do you think people get married?
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>>284802024
Yeah, I wanted to read The Daily Lives of High School Boys manga, but the cover is just a photo with characters drawn on it, and it's a huge boner killer.
It's jarring whenever it happens, and hurts immersion.
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>>284796495
FPBP
>Verification no required.
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>>284801753
>>used slut
so the only type of woman?
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i wanna kill myself
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>>284806142
Do a flip!
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>>284804649
Not a big fan of those
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>>284805326
They are bad
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The truth is that no man would marry and reproduce with a non-virgin woman if he could choose. The value of women is 99% about 2 things: Being young and virgin.

The reality of most men who ever lived is that, unless you have enough value, which for men is 99% physical, status and financial, we settle.
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>>284796443
I liked it better when it was porn.

Just like with Nagatoro, it became boring when it got serialized and the sex removed.
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>>284804168
Housewife and JK
Contract Sisters
If I Could Reach You
The Fed-Up Office Lady Wants To Serve The Villainess
A Story About a Married Teacher Who Becomes Obsessed with Her Female Student
Girls x Vampire
I Want to Spoil Yoroizuka-san

Off the top of my head
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>>284806382
>we settle
Nah. Just stop seeing marriage as the endgoal. Honestly, I can't even get attracted to women on an emotional level anymore.
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>>284806382
A man whose dick has plunged countless times is just as worthless.
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If a woman hasn’t had at least 10 sexual partners then you know she’s of low value.
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>be human
>have most energy and libido in teen years
>body made to breed and explore
>do nothing because people from thousands years ago with poo on their butts says is immoral
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>>284806992
americans are cattle after all
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>>284806877
Nah, it's the opposite. Men become higher value if they fuck more women.
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>>284806992
>do nothing
Heh, yeah... They do nothing....
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>>284806992
Once you do you realise it's extremely overrated. Of course you wouldn't know about that.
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>>284807252
Thats like saying than food is meh because you're british.
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>>284807252
>overrated
I doubt you had teenage sex or sex with a teenager.
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>>284807466
British cuisine may not taste as good as american food, but it's certainly healthier.
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>>284807102
Valued highly by other men, you mean. Girls don't like manwhores. They want to feel special.
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>>284807583
>t. never talked to a girl
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>>284806992
fuk yea!
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>>284807583
>They want to feel special.
Being chosen by a bad boy or a man who's fucked many women before makes them feel special.
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>>284807591
>t. normie tourist
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>>284797586
Wait! Wait! But is this from American Pie?!
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>>284807608
Anon, you're in the failed normalfag thread.
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>>284807591
Joke's on you, I am a girl.
>>284807607
Also wrong.
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>>284807649
tits or gtfo
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>>284801489
Wanna know how we know you've never been in non-toxic relationship?
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>>284807649
Nah, he's correct. Social proof has big value to women.
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>>284800273
this. best friends + who only fuck each other = good marriage
and yes im a khhv
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>>284807649
No, you're not.
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>>284807583
>They want to feel special.
And they get that special feeling by being chosen by a man that many other women desire (as demonstrated by them getting dicked down by him). Finding out that he "saved himself for her" is extremely icky for a woman, it proves that no other woman wanted her and she's dating literal garbage.
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>>284796443
I personally like romcom where they're both teenagers and like each other but they're too shy to confess so they constantly blush and act like dorks near each other
I like young awkward romances
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>>284807649
you will never be a woman, troon.
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>>284807692
This. If you read those TL for women, all the men are ex-Stacy fuckers who settle down for the protagonist.
In contrast, the female love interest in erotic seinen is either a virgin or an ultra-slut. A girl who sucked a dick or two is no one's fantasy.
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>>284807692
>>284807792
The thing is, I never said the guy had to be a complete virgin loser or "save" himself for a woman. However, if he had a particularly large body count before their relationship, he is admittedly less appealing. It's not impressive in the way men think it is.
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>>284807912
>t. man
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>>284807929
Ahhh, you mad. Sorry to burst your bubble.
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>>284807629
>failed normalfag in the sense of a person who suffers from a lack of basic needs being met
>>284807836
There is a simple explanation for this. A girl who has had sex with many boys probably treats it as something casual and may fall seriously in love with the protagonist for the first time, like a virgin.
On the other hand, a girl who has had sex with, say, two boys must have already been in love.
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>>284796443
just read the last chapter and she is nowhere to be seen in her workplace
she is getting back at him for what he did with the midget isn't she
I didn't expect it to return to the doujin's plot
>>284798522
iiirc that happens a lot in the manga yes
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>>284807808
Kaguya-sama: Love is War was great for this. Kind of a shame it went off the rails and the ending sucked, but it was mostly a good ride
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>>284808190
Why? Ending was good and just in time, Its not One Piece soap opera.
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>>284796600
>I prefer when the girl has tons of experience but the guy is virgin.
Easier to self-insert, huh?
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>>284806382
the two foids who lurk didn’t like that
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>>284807583
>Doesnt know shit
Studies have proven that women find inexperience a turn off and find men more attractive the more partners they’ve had. Women find men who are actively in relationships more attractive than single men too.
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>>284808137
>she is getting back at him for what he did with the midget isn't she
worth it desu. fatties just cant compete

I wonder if he'll also fuck his ex band member along with the rest of the female cast
or maybe not because blondie's sex scenes feel really uninspired and short compared to Tomoka's
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>>284796443
I dunno, she clearly has some kind of STD because of it. Look at all that black gunk that's growing in front of her tits
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>>284800183
What chapter does he fuck the other girl?
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>>284796443
name?
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>>284808003
It's simpler than that. Some men want pure love, they don't fantasise about their girlfriend sucking another man's penis. Other men want a succubus who knows what she's doing from the outset and will drain every last drop of cum from their bodies. A girl with just a little experience wouldn't fit the bill either.
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>>284796443
Me too man. Who wants to see teenagers pussyfoot around for 100 chapters? Let's get to the good stuff.
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>>284808137
Seems he only makes a mental note of her absence in passing, otherwise he's happily chatting away with the other waitress
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>>284808779
It’s like the opposite of a bell curve
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literally Adam and Eve
>>284808819
main reason I read it
>>284808709
51 or 51-3 for the actual spread
>>284808831
yes I do realize that he, sadly, doesn't seem to give two shits about it. mostly because his balls got drained moments ago
I am the one that is worried about the series turning into a bisexual orgy/cuckfest
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>>284802024
You must be efficient if you drew more than one manga at same time.
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>>284809171
Oh, I thought it was one of the other girls.

>>284804205
And what chapter was this one? The boss is my favorite but I guess she won't get dicked.
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>>284802392
Takemasa Takeshi? Looks similar at least.
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>>284809611
he is fucking his boss, pic very much related

the dyke gets dicked in chapter 53-4 and tomoka's sister also gets fucked in the previous one
>>284802679
>and other with a guy who has a miracle semen that allows women to keep their zombiefication at bay in a post apocaliptic world.
are you faceblind? Zombie World de Harem wo Tsukurou! doesnt has his artstyle at all
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>>284810226
I'm mistaking all the side characters, I like this one >>284803345
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>>284802392
It's literally the same as his manga pen name, Souryuu
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>>284810353
in a few years then. probably. maybe
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>>284810226
>the dyke gets dicked in chapter 53-4
To be fair, is a flashblack of her past, she doesn´t have still taste MC´s dick
But yes, definitely we saw her sucking dicks, the only way of straight sex who never never never never a lesbian would do it
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>>284796846
>A GIRL! She's so pure and pretty and delicate and c-close! huwah!
>semen probably still dripping out of her from her beforetime
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>>284800183
>His senpai finally got up the nerve to make a pass and now they're fucking as well
guess I'm dropping this now, shit
that's how it goes
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>>284811838
he either doubles down or goes back to the status quo, hard to say at the time since the second girl's scenes look phoned in
Ill give him another volume before making a choice
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>MC is a romcom loner class outcast being harassed by romcom rich chad because romcom popular blonde talked to him once in passing recently
>MC DGAF because he's having sex with the gloomy glasses girl one desk over like they're animals in heat mating every day
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>>284802679
Did he do the penis diamonds one too
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>>284800273
already false
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>>284812089
faceblind anon I...
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It's not really a romcom then. They're just friends that have sex. If you cut the sex out, their relationship is completely platonic.
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>>284796443
I'm not against the idea on paper(used X used) but these type of manga tend to devolve into ntr
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disregard romcom
acquire romsex
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>>284812851
Because if the couple is already comfortable together, there's no real conflict to drive the story, so readers get bored, and NTR is an easy way to fix that.

You can't tell a romance story without a conflict or obstacles for the characters to overcome because it gets boring fast for both the writer and the reader.
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>>284813054
>You can't tell a romance story without a conflict or obstacles for the characters to overcome because it gets boring fast for both the writer and the reader.
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>>284812854
It's a sexcom. Very popular genre in America before the country went conservative.
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>>284813426
>no separation timeskip
>no love triangle
>no separation by miscommunication
>couple from the start
>comfortable around each other
>healthy sex life
Her first serialization and has 90 chapters and mogs the shit out of most Romcoms.
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>>284806992
No one but mormons are willingly choosing to not have sex in their teen years
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>>284807551
I did and it was still overrated.
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>>284813426
What do they actually do that makes them any different from a pair of friends?
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>>284813426
Case in point

The drama is what romance fans are there for. Once that's resolved, there's nothing left.
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>>284813426
Stinky.
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>>284798522
First time checking out H-content? Most artists hide feet with socks, knee-highs or stockings. Drawing feet is hard.
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>>284815947
>artist draws socks
>but they are sheer so you can see the perfect outline of spread toes inside them
peak
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>>284812524
>If you cut the sex out, their relationship is completely platonic
naruhodo...
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>>284815700
Have sex?
Live together?
Go on dates?
Marry?
Have a kid?
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>>284807551
That's just you projecting.
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>>284796443
>Dude total sudden sex at random moments XD
Its obviously a manga where the concept of casual sex is turned up to 6 million
IRL its hedonistic degenracy
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>>284816461
None of that can carry a story
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>>284816902
You say that and yet it's one of the highest-rated unadapted romance manga. Did you know that there's a whole genre called 'slice of life'?
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>>284800304
People don't care about "relationships"; they're interested in shipping. Things always get boring the moment they formalise the relationship.
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>>284800304
Because most relationships become boring once they become "official", to the point that there's a term for it; shipping bed death
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>>284797586
>Hang out together
>Clearly enjoy each others company
>Literally fuck regularly
>Refuse to call it dating
>Refuse to say they're boyfriend/girlfriend
>Refuse to get married

Am I too much of a NEET to not understand what the dynamic here is supposed to be? It feels like these types of relationships are just two people who are afraid of acknowledging what they really are. Like they're afraid of what the term "dating" or "boyfriend/girlfriend" and the weight/responsibility that those words carry.
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>>284817500
Not every
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>>284817564
That is literally the whole point of their relationship and the origin of the manga. They were two people repeatedly burned by bad relationships who decided to hook up together without any explicit terms or labels.
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>>284817564
Dating someone means needing to commit to them emotionally. FWB can purely enjoy each other's company.
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>>284805326
The LN and manga really dropped the ball on this story. The girl was literally horny to do it with the guy throughout their relationship in high school, I just don't understand how this story has kept going with such poor plot.
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>>284807486
As someone in IT I also am triggered
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>>284819728
I dont get it
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This manga will only ascend into legendary status if they both marry other people and raise separate family but continue their fuckbuddy status unabated throughout
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>>284819995
retards mishandling data causing millions in preventable damage (that is then your problem to clean up)
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>>284811546
She doesn't look very happy taking it in the butt either.
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>>284796443
So this is a shonen (manga for little boys) in 2025?
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>>284796495
Fpbp
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>>284821344

I mean, there is a reason why now she is feeling more attracted for women now
Fortunately our MC Murata the Chad will heal her and will teach her to appreciate dick again
But yes, definitely she is not lesbian, a true lesbian would prefer die before even touch a dick willingly for once in her life
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I nutted to chapter 37, knowing that it's a real manga that's being sold to 10 year old boys makes the otherwise generic hentai-level writing so much more arousing.
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>>284813473
>Very popular genre in America before the country went conservative.
??? retarded attempt at humor
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>>284823075
It's being published in the same web mag as OPM and Id argue it's the one manga keeping it afloat
>>284823581
>Fortunately our MC Murata the Chad will heal her and will teach her to appreciate dick again
I hate polyshit so much it's unreal, and the guy doesnt even feel like a character, it's more like a ick with legs
>But yes, definitely she is not lesbian, a true lesbian would prefer die before even touch a dick willingly for once in her life
those are TERFs, every ""lesbian"" (so, the not ugly ones) Ive ever met opened her legs for chad no problem
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>>284824017
OPM sexualizes innocent children (Tatsumaki) but it doesn't have any straight up pornographic scenes like this, literal nipples, handjobs, plap plap plap sex.
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>>284824063
they also publish Akebi, the one with the pedo teachers (picrel) and hiromoot's manga.
OPM is the only shonen they publish
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Once you get past will they/wont they, you can start focusing on things that matter. If your WHOLE story relies on it, it's probably a shallow story.
Pic not related, just a good show.
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>>284819728
That's what we have redundancies for. If your company doesn't, and you suggested it already, well that's on them.
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>>284824343
im getting mixed signals from this post
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I ahte romcoms because I am a khv
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I love sluts who are sluts. I hate when a slut is pretend pure by not actually being a slut yet acting like one. I'll always like an anime girl who likes sex
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>>284796443
sex is stupid
sex lives are stupid
sex before getting into a relationship on screen is stupid
continuing the story after they have sex is stupid

I hate it, I hate how it makes me feel, I hate how it likely makes others feel and I hate that authors either don't care about our feelings or don't understand them. but most of all I hate all the normal people who have the priviliage of viewing sex as a mundane easily obtainable thing that they probably do nearly every day without having to thinkg about it much or what it really means or maybe understanding what it means and either shun or mock those who can't get it not even able to pay for it.

in short, fuck people who do this, fuck manga that do this, fuck light novels that do this, fuck society in general that destroys people either by glorifying their casuality about it or shunning by acting like it's a never ever that must never be done or enjoyed.

ITs so fucking complicated and frustrating that it ruins any story that features it
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>>284796443
Tomoka's fat ass is this manga's only saving grace
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this whole series is blatant male wish fulfillment but the boring kind where you don't kill the devil in-between banging hot chicks
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>>284824567
>in short, fuck people who do this
gladly
>>284824591
why do isekai fags associate sex with theist shitty genre? do you people only read it for the sex scenes?
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>>284824591
>this whole series is blatant male wish fulfillment
This. There is no woman with a body even half as good looking as the main girl who is like "gee willikers, I wanna be some useless grass-eating loser's private sex dolls who engages in his male loser hobbies in between providing sex".
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>>284824567
Falseflag attack
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>>284824591
Based
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>>284824667
ill humor you:
the guy is no hervibore, in fact breaks up with her gf because she wanted more comimitment from his part
in fact, the FeMCs former boyfriend was your typical herbivore male, who she ditches the very first chapter because he wouldnt fuck her enough
>inb4 vidya
she has a side gig as an ethot. if you could associate videogames with earning money irl ofc youd like them too
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>>284824744
>the guy is no hervibore, in fact breaks up with her gf because she wanted more comimitment from his part
=>
>bro, the main character that serves as the self insert for losers is not a loser, he has magic superpowers, therefore he deserves to have three wives and him getting a new wife is a turning point in his life, so deep
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>>284824667
More or less this. Is for people who want to read a wish fulfillment erotic manga but are too jaded for a wholesome romance.
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>>284796443
I recognise Souryuu's art when I see it
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>>284824888
>but are too jaded for a wholesome romance.
Wholesome romances never have sex. Or they do at the very end. I want a story about lovers who fuck in a way that adults do
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>>284824744
I always knew ecchi fags and romcom faggots were poor readers. I mean, how many times can you possibly read "oh, it's going in", "kimochii" and all the retarded porn talk without losing your common sense.

But this is truly pathetic. I'm not sure if these delusions derive from self inserting/escapism or just plain room temp IQ.
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>>284824954
They do. See >>284813506
Also most TLs are like that, although they are very short.
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>>284825016
Don't pretend Ase to Sekken is the norm, it's the exception. Most wholesome romance stories are between actual or emotional high schoolers. That's nice in it's own way, but sometimes I want something else
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>>284825041
Like I said, if you don't mind them being short then just read TL manga. Most of them are between working adults. They usually start out as sexual harassment, but so did Asa to Sekken.
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>>284825172
>They usually start out as sexual harassment
what did the Japanese mean by this?
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>>284796443
the Mc fucking another girl (and probably more in the future) and not just sticking to banging the Fmc completely ruins it for me. especially when it clearly only happens to set up drama.
what a way to kill my intrest in this manga
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>>284825212
>what did women mean by this?
FTFY
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>>284824433
>khv
Kyiv? BASED! SLAVA UKRAINI!
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https://exhentai.org/g/2632469/52c41c8cf9/

This your mans? What a waste of nice tits on such a stupid story.
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>>284824255
>yuri
Dammit.
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>>284817564
They enjoy a relationship while rejecting categorization and interference from third parties. So they don't use the same words for stuff and just care about each other. Simple.
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>>284805671
Indoctrination, social pressure and even drugs.
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>>284811838
You never read it to begin with. You don't read manga.
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>>284825909
Would be based if true
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>>284796443
I used to have the same mindset as you, but all the worst parts of Horimiya are after the relationship is established.
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>>284815947
No. Knee highs and thigh high shocks/stalkings are my fetish.
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>>284805326
It's okay because it turned out she still had her hymen.
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>>284825909
No, you fuck off, I dug this because it was presented as two characters who casual sex but slowly catch feels and develop into the behaviors of a married couple, and instead author had to push in harem shit.
It was cute and romantic and they fucked it
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>>284819995
It made me think of hellishly git merges (when different people heavily modify the same code and then fuck each other up generating a lot of extra work). Except those retards seem to be designers so they will probably have 10x the work since their control methods won't be as sophisticated as with code.


>>284824364
>one single backup that's almost always up-to-date is good enough, anon
>no one would mix up different branches of the same work in them, now go back to work
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If you're not pro- every current thing that you're supposed to follow due to social pressure, you are not cool on nu-/a/
>BUT MY MOM WANTS ME TO MARRY
Yeah, you're definitely a rebel by doing what society tells you to instead of your mom
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sex with women (noncommittal)
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>>284824591
Yea. But because she isn't banging 3 other fwb dudes.
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>>284800304
>Becoming bf/gf is the "start" of a relationship in a sense, it's when two people see if they are compatible for each other long term.
Is this how normalfags see the world? I would never start dating someone I didn't already get along with as friends.
That's probably why I'm still single, but I won't compromise. To hell with casual sex and fast hookup culture.
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>>284828648
Dating is just arranging time spent with a person to see if you could even start a relationship. You figure out what both your red flags are and if you're tripping any, and whether or not you match up to what they're looking for and vice versa, and if that matches up well enough, that's when a relationship can really start. Dating is barely getting your toes wet.
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>>284828648
Normalfag here by your standards, getting into the dating boyfriend and girlfriend stage is easy, shouldn't take more than a few weeks of knowing each other. The actual real relationship, knowing each other in a deeper level, starts after that, then when you move in together and when you are planning to marriage and finally when married.

This is why women care so much about marriage because it's the final stage of the relationship. Just knowing each other and liking each other is not even stage one for them. You truly don't know someone on a deep level until then.

Also sex is not really a big deal, the big deal is liking each other enough even after having sex for months.
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The thread is on page 10, about to die, but I am going to bump it one more time as a favor, because I nutted 3 times to its OP manga already. Even though I don't like it, I am a man of honor.
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>>284796443
>I like used goods

ok bro
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read?
>>284825219
>especially when it clearly only happens to set up drama
she doesnt care, for the moment at least
and if he wanted to create drama he would have had her getting gangbanged by the entire gym during her training arc (first gym I see without a single guy)
>>284825717
that pic is from an ss manga tho?
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>>284831555
>that pic is from an ss manga tho?
Ah, I mistook
>Akebi, the one with the pedo teachers
as referring to one manga.
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>>284808779
Which highlights the real problem. Men are lazy and insecure. No patience for training even an eager woman into their personal slut, no no confidence to expose their emotional switches enough for it to even work out. Most men would be better off w/ a small list of vetted local prostitutes if some storybook romance never falls into their lap. As would many women.
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>>284831624
I dont remember any pedos in Akebi (other than the author), just some really confused teenagers
the protagonist of Anatatachi Soredemo Sensei desu ka! is kind of sissy looking but nobody reads it for him
the instathot orbiter chapter sucked monkey dick btw
>>284831673
>No patience for training even an eager woman into their personal slut
cringe
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>>284831673
>armchair psychology from loser with no real life experience
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>>284824343
With out all the world building it falls apart, though. The sex doesn't really carry it. Especially since so much of it involves weird monsters.
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>>284824667
If he was mildly abusive though, there's plenty who want that.
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>>284824954
That's fake wholesome. Autosadistic intimacy denial to avoid confronting PTSD that rubes think no one will understand. It's a knot we ought to cut whenever we meet it.
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>>284831760
Isn't that the thread theme?
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>>284796443
I just ran through a few chapters then jumped forward and skimmed again. Why is two thirds of the anons in this thread shitting their pants and crying over it when it just looks like the most basic and normal relationship between two healthy and content young adults?
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>>284831869
>ugly male loser guy doesn't get it
It's just like when you guys try to "just be confident". We aren't attracted to some guy acting confident, we are attracted to confident guys. Likewise, we aren't attracted to "mild abuse", but we are attracted to guys who just instinctually know how to excite a girl by being mildly abusive.
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>>284823974
>absolutely flabbergasted low IQ ameritard

Oh how the civilized world pity the amerifat of today
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I've been looking at this series for a while.
I am a bitter /a/ incel, but the story is told in a way that doesn't make me feel like a bitter incel. And it's kinda sweet to be honest.
I like it. It has my /a/ and virgin friendly seals of approval!
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>>284832447
well there are two groups
the first just want to bitch and moan about their incel lives
and the latter has actually read it and recently got backstabbed by the author. see >>284810226
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>>284824591
>blatant male wish fulfillment
That's all these series where the main guy is your average, maybe slightly nerdy looking guy, who has nothing special going for him in terms of looks, money or social proof, yet has a top notch girl being profoundly in love with him or willing to be his sex doll.

It's a silly bluepill fantasy and anyone who's even slightly experienced with women knows couldn't be further away from reality.
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>>284810226
He should stick with his boss. She wants it.
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>>284832603
You are a braindead kid who has no clue what he's talking about. Your argument was gonna be
>my mom told me there was lots of sex in F*R*I*E*N*D*S and Sex in the City, I mean it's literally in the name!!
And the country went conservative, so now you get slop like Euphoria.
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>>284832447
Becuase it's boring trash for incels like >>284832765
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>>284832447
>not commitment
>no standards
>healthy
That's why you're alone
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>>284833191
I'll bet my wife fucked your mom in college.
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>>284796443
idk why reading this manga pisses me off so much
maybe its because the guy is the most bland, incel tier boring guy in existence and yet he gets to constantly fuck a charming girl that basically does all the work here while he just nods and pumps her, and the girl, while cute, is also a giga slut that have the insatiable hots for that fresh corpse
its like this manga is a ragebait or something, I hate it so much, I really cant get off to this shit, I just wanna see both of them be pulverized by a truck
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>>284833548
>charming girl
doubt.jpg
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>>284833630
Any girl who might put out and knows you know that is charming.
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>>284833630
she's cute and acts like a quirky chungus, it has its charm
if she wasn't a giga slut, she would be passable
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>>284833664
>>284833679
My standards are higher, I don't think she's charming
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>>284833698
If you're more willing to listen to her because she's sexually available, then you were charmed.
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>>284833548
Reminds me to something I read on another thread about a woman having FWB
>There are guys who work their asses off to get a chance to be with her, while there's a dude who literally does nothing and get to fuck her brains out because she's the one that goes after him
>To some, she's someone special, to that guy, she's just another hole
And I think that summarizes this manga pretty much, so yeah, its quite annoying
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>>284833739
Tryhards aren't sexy, and she doesn't want a leash, just a ride.
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>>284833191
I'm not though and that is the standard, no? At least where I am from you are more likely to be in some kind of relationship than without. I would have assumed you were too until you made the implication that it's a rarity. I guess it depends on age too. Is that the real issue you have with it?
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>>284833831
>retard has no reading comprehension
Sasuga
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>>284796495
I think this manga would be more enjoyable if they were a faithful married couple having a good sexual life, indeed
It would even be wholesome, but no, this is just more goyslop weimar tier bullshit made for gooners and degenerates (also the characters are insufferable)
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>Stooping so low to go for leftovers
I will find that hot 18 year old virgin some day.
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>>284833909
It was made for jaded cucks
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>>284832929
Any one who has experience with women probably has two kids if they are your age. You got it inversed, gramps. Anyone without experience with women sits in this thread seething like you are. Little aging anon will always sit in his room and ferment with anger as average guys clock above average girls and vice versa right outside his draped over windows. Your hair thinning yet lilbro?
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>>284833913
Or not, but looking for one is better than being a loser who settles down for used trash. Even fidning one doesn't mean she would make you happy. It's about the journey, not the destination.
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>>284833962
>Little aging anon will always sit in his room and ferment with anger
NTA but sound like you are talking from personal experience since you are here malding like a pathetic little incel.
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>>284832929
I feel like this manga goes a bit overboard with the bland MC tho, the guy is literally a cardboard cut so seeing him with a girl like her is just insane
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>>284833805
>she doesn't want a leash, just a ride
Id normally ask you to post tits or gtfo but there's now way yours can beat tomoka's
>>284833913
>18 year old
>virgin
L E L
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>>284796443
What's this?
If romance manga is gosling for people who can't find true love, then FWB manga should be gosling for people who can't have sex.
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>Main couple don't bother explaining their relationship thinking it's a pain and people wouldn't get it
This thread proves exactly that
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>>284833887
You must have missed the point which is easily done in anger. Most young adults have healthy relationships without any real standards and commitments at least once or twice. Not sure what part confused you there. Is it really so far out of your lived experience that you thought I applied the standards of your dream anime wedding to two young adults just being depicted as living life. Saw some pages of them working too so they seem to have it on lock but comments are saying they spiral out later which I never read far enough to see. Perhaps that's what's causing you pain?
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>>284834102
Writing a passive-aggressive rant while crying over your keyboard won't make you look any less like an angry and lonely loser.
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>>284833990
NTA You can't just "no u" when he just said the opposite of the anon he replied to. Also the incel seething in his room is an ancient by internet standard type stereotype there is really not much imagination needed to paint up that picture. Trust me, lil'bro
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>>284833805
>Tryhards aren't sexy
The problem is the underlying issue that tryharding conveys to women (whether or not it's the case):

>If he could get women, he would not be tryharding for me.
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>>284833831
>>284833962
>>284834102
imagine getting so assblasted that you have to expend your sunday morning crying to defend a manga you haven't read
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>>284834195
>Trust me, lil'bro
I trust you since you seem to be one
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>>284824623
>do you people only read it for the sex scenes?

Have you not seen the general?
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>>284796443
Cuck thread
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>>284834163
Didn't even perceive it as passive aggressive. It also seems you made no new points in your post. I think you might be getting too defensive to articulate yourself properly. Sorry for angering you by asking why you were angry about a manga that just looks like basically two young adults testing the waters like everyone does. I will give you some space and the last word if you want so you can feel some release.
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>>284834249
Good, you will need it
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>>284800319
The ship hasn't sailed.
The ship was capsized.
All future ships are currently being capsized.
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>>284834313
>It also seems you made no new points in your post
There was never a debate because a lil loser like you isn't going to change his opinion, but you're free to continue with your sad rant.
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>>284834426
Please don't trigger to white knight anons again
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>>284796443
Why? Just watch western 3dpd shows if you want that degeneracy.
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>>284796443
Reading shit like this makes me understand Jack the ripper
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>>284834549
>Reading shit like this
Why go so far?
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>>284831896
>Autosadistic intimacy denial to avoid confronting PTSD
Word salad
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There is an insane concentration of incel energy in here.

Why do you hold on to this autistic "she has to be the one" mindset or shield yourself behind "I have higher standards, hmmpfh!"? No you don't. It's hilarious that you say that while pulling your dick to anime girls. You are by your own making, turning yourself into a lonely skin starved loser. A literal hollow husk of a sub-human.

You find someone you somewhat mesh with and you go from there it doesn't even have to be anywhere near perfect. You are never going to find the one holy grail because you are never ever going to find anyone who is the same person on dates/out in the open as they are a few months into sharing the same living space constantly. Just go out, meet people, try your shots, get into short relationships, break them up when they don't give you what you want and then move on.

I didn't find my wife until I was 33 and got my first son at 36. But as opposed to someone who just sits and wait I have good memories of my earlier "try out" relationships and even picked up some friends that I still have and interesting experiences and stories to tell from travels we did together. I much prefer that than sitting back my whole life and then once I meet someone to talk too I just have my memories full of literally just sitting on my pc playing games and no interesting stories or qualities. It is a self destructive circle. I am probably on the older side by chan standards now but even back then I never got the concept of this behavior and the glorification of the lifestyle is just lemmings behavior. Like I said earlier, makes you literally sub-human. The only thing that has changed since then is that you have added "cuck" to your vocabulary as another shield when confronted with the idea of dating other people your age since by now most of not all of the actually worthwhile people has had relationships before. The true cuck will always be the guy who cucked himself out of his one single shot at life.
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>>284796443
God, I wish I had this. I'm not even bad looking or fat, I'm just a complete shut in
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>>284834883
>blurt out all that while posting on the incel forum
lmao
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>>284834883
Not reading all that angry rant, get a life
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>>284807698
she fucked her sister's step-son
can't blame you since this was deleted by irodori
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>>284834883
based family anon trying to save the human race
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>>284835087
>>284835056
I'm starting to believe it's an actual woman.

What kinda man writes all that bullshit trying to feel morally superior to "incels" in fucking 4chan?
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>>284833864
Begone misogynist scum
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>>284834883
Bro I would rather watch anime than being a loser who raised a kid with someone else's used good. You are not doing so good if you are crying and writing a fucking bible on an anime forum instead of expending time with your sloppy seconds.
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>>284834883
We girls will all reward this guy with sex to teach the male losers a lesson.
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>>284835141
>positive message to help his bros get out there
>h-he is trying to be superior to me(implicates himself to be an incel)
>n-no it must be a real woman!!

they hated him for he spoke the truth and the ones who needed it the most didn't listen. a tale as old as time
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>>284834883
>>284835108
>>284835139
>>284835221
>>284835230
All me, btw
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>>284834070
What if I drew her face on them with a sharpie?
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>>284835141
Nah, he's just an angry middle age man
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>>284835200
Lemmingbros.. Even when we construct our own narrative of him raising someone else's child which was never a part of the post we still must fight with living a wasted existence, unable to even pass our own genes.. Something even the lowly bugs on the ground succeeded with. ACK!! We even projected the the idea that a person has to spend 100% of their time with their family without pause and displayed our own warped perceptions of family life.. and we still couldn't stand.. ACK once more..
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>>284835286
I'm not sure yet, the passive-aggressive posts are very feminine
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>>284834454
Try to keep up.
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>>284835230
>"anon stop watching anime and meet people" [written on an anime forum]
>no i don't want to
>"aaaiieeeee nooo you have to make the same life choices as meeeee"
Get it together
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>>284834750
You already know what each word means. What do you think they mean together?
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>>284835286
>Nah, he's just an angry middle age man
>>284835340
>I'm not sure yet, the passive-aggressive posts are very feminine

There's not actually a difference. Anyway, different people want different things and that's ok.
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based post the haters will never understand
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>>284835332
>Even when we construct our own narrative of him raising someone else's child
My post never said that. You're too stupid to come up with a good comeback because your angry tears are preventing you from reading.
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>>284796443
If this manga was more realistic, the girl would have gotten the ick from that faggot and went to fuck some chad elsewhere while MC died alone
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>>284835388
What do (you) want
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>>284801364
>PIU instead of DDR

Sometimes I hate Koreans so much I can't even sleep.
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>>284835426
ACK even while disowning my own posts my reality stays the same!! Lemmingbros! I am not sure I can hold on for any longer.. Our suicide rates are going up.. Why did it take so long for us to realize.. Why did it have to be too late..
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>>284835359
You can clearly watch anime and meet people. Just like anon did. But anyway what DO you want?
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>>284835524
>more rambling
Read again and stop embarrasing yourself.I hope your son isn't as ridiculously stupid and petty as you but I shouldn't have high hopes.
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>>284801364
>their relationship is very wholesome.
It's not, the guy is like a dead fish to the point it takes you out of it by wondering why any girl would ever give this fag a chance
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>>284835586
We need to keep moving lemmingbros.. Discard and move on don't let them trap us. The longer we keep our minds off the prize we can keep living!!
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>>284835580
>But anyway what DO you want?
To talk about anime and not your personal blogpost
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>>284834883
>lil bro is flexing about being tied to some used hag who gave the prime of her life to other men
Lol
Lmao even
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>>284835692
If you are afraid of women who had sexual experiences with other men before you, or even afraid of raising their sons from other men, you are not a real man.
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>>284835712
That's fine
Attack helicopters are cooler
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>>284796443
artist did porn before? looks familiar
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What's with the deleted posts?
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>>284835471
My personal view is that I find physical intimacy, without some sort of emotional bond and committed relationship, disgusting. I am fully aware that most people do not view it that way--they live their lives and I live mine. No judgement on my part.

Granted people that share this view tend to be highly religious.
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>>284835712
t. roastie
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>>284834883

Lemming here. I realized I was one when the last family member I frequently spoke to died. Feels like I am just waiting to die myself now but I probably have 30 years of suffering left. Nothing to do, I feel too weak and I can't do the things I used to with my body and am growing older and my skin is ugly and my hair which I used to hide my face is getting thinner, I can't talk to anyone because I have nothing interesting to say because I have never done anything worth sharing. Whenever I talk to someone I just bring negativity.
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>>284835832
NTA but the second part of the sentence should have made it clear that it was ironic.
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>>284835821
We girls decided to do something about misogyny itt. You've been warned.
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>>284835692
Brother.. you have no prime of your life.. you wasted it.
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>>284835877
Then do what Anon did. Find some used goods after she's finished sleeping with other men. Marry her and have a midly-retarded son with her. Then come here and vent all your anger by writing angry diatribes.
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>>284796443
Nice tits
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>>284796600
zased cuckchad
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>>284835981
True enough. I wasted it by fucking your slutty wife when I should have gone for higher-quality women
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You can use the "will they, won't they" only for so long until it becomes annoying.
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>>284835994

I can't I didn't keep socializing in my prime so I can't talk. I tried but it's so hard to get out without any support left. No one would go for someone like me. I don't have the looks when I might have been able to pass as normal when I was younger, I don't have the money and am to inexperienced to hold a conversation.
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>will they, won’t they is tiring, come on!
>author: ok here’s some NTR instead
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>>284833739
>To some, she's someone special, to that guy, she's just another hole
Sobering truth. I get that people shouldnt expect their lover to change their life or be their savior or anything but you want to think of your lover as special and valuable in some way and there is nothing that interferes with this more than the knowledge that at some point she reduced herself to a hole for some guy that moment couldnt give less a shit about who she was so long as she got him off. Its degrading for a woman to be with a man that just thinks of her as another hole and its degrading for a man to force himself to respect a woman that willingly took on that role. Neither should have to be with someone whose level of self respect doesnt even match theirs.
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>>284836163
Is there a manga about a healthy marriage with active sexual life that isnt related to cuck shit at all? I just want some comfy and wholesome slice of life
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>>284836049
Sounds like a good trade. Anon gets to travel and fuck around with women during his prime and then settle and have kids with your girl(?) to continue his line while you supposedly announced you fucked his wife, transitioned to anime during your prime and then fell off to remain alone.
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The Lemming thing is false, they don’t actually run to their deaths off cliffs on instinct, that was in the disney wildlife video because their helicopters were terrorizing them.
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>>284835372
>What do you think they mean together?
Absolutely nothing
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>>284836213
>your girl
Not my girl, my hole. You can barely call that a girl
I let anon take her turn to fuck her after he's done malding on 4chan
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>>284796443
the serialization of this one is kinda boring, I sincerely prefer the original one
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>>284836221
Coyotes actually don't paint mountain walls so they look like tunnels for cars to drive through. I am sorry I had to tell you like this.
It's not a literal reference to lemmings. It's a reference to the perception of lemmings
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>>284836221
Anon is not smart enough to know that.
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>>284836339
Yeah I can tell by your posts!!!
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>>284796443
My favorite romcoms are the ones where there's actually com in it
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>>284836200
Does it have to be married life?
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>>284836221
>When this anon was told to "just bite the bullet" he had to be taken to the dentist
Ok I laughed
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>>284836089
I don't know then, good luck
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>>284836538
Me neither. I have already come at terms with how my life will end but I do have nights where I wish I could have done different choices in life. It looks so simple and obvious once I think about it. I always thought I was fine alone but I think always having a relative to ease it made me think so. I never truly was alone back then like one is once they grow older and become more uninteresting. No one wants me because I am too old and even the state is prioritizing me down because I am too old. There comes a point where you will realize that the entire society is done with you and you become truly a second class citizen. I think it came early for me since I have been sick a lot. The gap between me and normies also just widen as they build upon their life and I miss out on every checkpoint in life. At least that's what it feel like.
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>>284835088
Is this the same manga?
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>>284836009
they get even better as the manga progresses
especially once she gets fat
>>284835818
>before
this is the serialization of a hentai doujin
that for some reason has the characters not having sex for half a year at times so go figure
>>284835270
feel free to try
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>>284835088
>>284836765
it's from the original doujinshi. same characters different story (for now)
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>>284836462
Yes, otherwise its degenerate
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>>284824255
>OPM is the only shonen they publish
Shounen isn't genre you fucking retard. It's seinen just like all other manga they publish
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>>284836174
Damn, you summarized perfectly well why having casual sex, and a woman that indulges in that, is so disgusting
Its all about self-respect and knowing your true value
If you consider yourself a catch, then dont go throwing yourself out to randoms that only see you as a fuck toy
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>>284837007
The feeling is supposed to be mutual you know.
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>>284836911
Marriage gray
>>284836754
>>284837051
I hope both of your life get better, they don't look very healthy. Good luck, assuming you're not the same person.
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>>284837051
penis
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>>284836840
>it's from the original doujinshi. same characters different story (for now)
Yeah it most definitely will happen, that's why the author had MC fuck the other girl first
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>>284837007
>"Its all about self-respect and knowing your true value"
>I know my true value, it is watching anime while my hair thins, my senses dull and my prime passes!
That will show them tiger
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>394 replies
Oh boy I can't to wait to see the utterly beyond belief levels out screaming red-faced fuming rage from the impotent basement human garbage who will never touch a woman. I can't wait to see that totally predictable thing from pathetic lifelong losers who chose to be lonely retards because they're too scared to talk to people, so they squa tin their filth and wail and gnash their teeth over fictional 2d women making love to fictional 2d men who aren't them.
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>>284836200
well there's Koyoi, Tsuma ga where every woman an ugly fat salaryman meets throws herself at him but he always rejects them politely. then he goes home all pent up and fucks the shit out of his wife (that desu looks exactly the same but whatever)
not really wholesome but as close as it gets I guess
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>>284837266
There are no normal people in this thread. Only lost causes and people who got lucky and achieved the first step of normality. The second group is way better off down the line and I think they should be allowed some clowning of the poor. As is human nature.
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>>284837266
Because we're tired of seeing losers destroy their lives and refuse to accept that they're the only ones responsible for themselves. It's literally repulsive, and you shouldn't be on this board if you don't have your life in order.
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>>284837051
lonely anons should heed this chick's post, its a valid warning. my elderly uncle bagged himself an old witch (they're both 55+) and it was the best thing that's happened to him, the hag just makes him dinner out of desperation. you don't have to actually get anyone attractive or even someone you like, just get someone like her and it'll stave off any bad ends
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>>284796443
>>284796600
>>284797586
disgusting american standards cuckshit
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>Oh boy I can't to wait to see the utterly beyond belief levels out screaming red-faced fuming rage from the impotent basement human garbage who will never touch a woman. I can't wait to see that totally predictable thing from pathetic lifelong losers who chose to be lonely retards because they're too scared to talk to people, so they squa tin their filth and wail and gnash their teeth over fictional 2d women making love to fictional 2d men who aren't them.
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>>284837051
>realizes too late that the state is also designed to care for the young first and most of the mechanisms would rather have him die as soon as possible to free up space
BAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH
GENUINELY WHICH SHITHOLE DO YOU LIVE IN?!
In mine, retirement is a ponzi scheme made for the elderly to eternally fuck the younger generation and it works exponentially as the more the time goes the more the old fucks gets to do fuck all meanwhile the young faggots starve to death.
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>>284837352
>got lucky
No, it's called not being a coward, you repulsive faggot. I was "le awkward with girls shy guy" in my 20s too. I worked through it instead of remaining a pathetic crying failure blaming society and women my whole life. The fact that you can't do the same is entirely down to your own cowardice and nothing else.
It's not "luck". You're just that much of a failure. I didn't used to bully people like you, I tried to give advice for years, but the level of pathetic self-pity and screeching is just unbelievable. Now I hope at least ramming home how much you personally chose to ruin your own life will oneday shock you out of your rut and encourage you to change before you literally die alone in a hospice bed.

And if you want to know why I "care", it's because when scum like you lives its entire live motivated only by resentment and bitterness because of your loneliness, it lowers the quality of discourse of you and everyone else around you on every other topic you taint with your touch, because you just can't stop fucking crying about how it's someone else's fault that you're alone and untouched.
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>>284837051
Pretty much, yes.
They do this to themselves. They doom themselves and they "live" for nothing but resentment (not living).
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>>284837427
Yeah for the CURRENT and PAST old people who Made the system. You have a lot to look forward too if you didn't figure that one out yourself, retard.
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>>284837362
If you think that marriage or having children is some big next stage in life that guarantees you happiness, you lack a lot of real life experience and need to get out of your little bubble. If you don't believe, look at the angry married loser itt, furiously replaying to everyone.
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>>284837242
>not opening your legs to random fucks means you're a loner loser that only lets life pass away
is this why roasties cant contain themselves?
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>>284837362
>we
You and the people living rent free in your head, schizo? Stop being so pathetic.
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>>284837371
You are right in a sense but even then she might leave you if she catches on and it does get harder to pull off with age due to your own declining stamina and mental abilities. I am just happy that my wife and I are still in love after 8 years. There is something special to getting looked after by someone you share beds with. I can't really explain it.
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>>284837344
based salaryman getting that nasty dyke away from his wife (and yes if she sleeps with another woman it still is cheating)
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>>284837567
>getting looked after by someone you share beds with
Something she has a lot of experience with, since she shared bed with so many people.
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>>284837483
Lmao your posts make me audibly laugh, you are legit 16yo I beg you to leave this website before a janny catches you.
Next you're going to tell me declining birthrates are not real actually and zoomers+alphas have totally a radiant future to look towards to.
>no money stolen by taxes
>no job prospects and soon replaced by jeets and AI
>no women
>highest suicide rate of all time
>adhd
>under marxist propaganda
Young people are so doomed and those coming after them will have to deal with even worse issues, feel bad for them. Mankind will cease to exist before the end of this century anyway.
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>>284837495
The same as having casual sex doesnt really make you feel any better in the long run
The real next step is finding true love and having an unique connection with that other person for the rest of your life (something very few really attain)
Thing is, casual sex erode the chances of getting that because of all the baggage it leaves and the fact you or the other person degraded its self worth enough to be reduced to the level of a fuck toy for no good reason
If you have the hots, jerk off, sex is only magical when there's actual love involved, otherwise its not that great and you immediately feel disgust for the other person after cumming
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>>284834883
Dude im 32 and the last women ive had in my life was 2022. It didnt work out because, well, i guess i wasnt that attracted to her, i was just lonely and desperate. Thanks to that whenever we tried to fuck, i couldnt get it up. Later on she broke up with me and ive been by myself since. Im actually kinda anxious if i do meet another woman that might happen again. Women can be intimidating.
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>>284837495
When did I say it "guarantees happiness"? You can still be miserable by being married. But your entire moronic post proves the point. If you want to talk about "guarantees", what being a literal incel adult virgin sadsack DOES guarantee is you will have nothing but resentment and impotent rage for everything else in your life. Self-enforced loneliness is literally the destroyer of life. You are not Nikola Tesla, puttering away in your lab inventing the future with your pristine virginity. You're a coward squandering the only one precious life he has, and it infects everything you do because you can't stop complaining about it despite it being all your choice.

>you lack a lot of real life experience
Just utterly moronic. If you want to try to play random guessing games at my life to sidestep the responsibility of needing to fix your own, you're just proving my point again.
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>>284837549
It's a generalized "we" indicating anyone else who is tired of your insipid bullshit. The fact you leap so desperately to le "schizo" buzzword is proof of how your damaged mind tries to retreat from realizing what it's done to itself.

You and you alone are responsible for your life and whether it ends up being a mess or at least mildly fulfilling in some way. You and you alone have chosen the misery that surrounds you.
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>>284837659
I'm not a virgin, so your premise is flawed. But carry on ranting like a loser, as you have been doing for hours, I'm not reading your whole rant
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>>284837596
Yeah but so did I. We went to the same uni and started going out at the end of the first year. Life was truly good back then but it was nice to move in together and stabilize still remember the times well.
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>>284837495
>you think that marriage or having children is some big next stage in life
It absolutely is a vital stage of life. It doesn't guarantee happiness, but nothing does. But it's a lot easier to destroy happiness by not achieving that stage.

Happiness, in and of itself, is more or less a passing state. An idea that has been gaining more traction again in recent times is that it is better to have a life of fulfillment than of happiness. And working towards the goals of family, love, intimacy, commitment, and responsibility seem to be fairly proven and worthwhile ways to achieve satisfaction. Denying them and claiming that they're unnecessary, or that it's unfair of society or reality to demand them of you, does not seem to produce happy, well-adjusted, fulfilled people.
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>>284837640
Learn to read then come back again
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>>284837735
I joined this thread 15 minutes ago. If you're not a virgin, then why are you complaining about fictional 2D women having sex? Do you think it's at all realistic in any culture outside of Saudi Arabia to label that "degenerate"? Do you even know what the word "degenerate" means? I'd like to hear you define it in your own words.
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>>284837688
I'm content with my life, stop projecting your insecurities. I'm not the one replying to everyone with angry tirades, you are.
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>>284801364
MotoShit?
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>>284837833
>I'm content with my life
Then why are you complaining about fictional 2D women having sex?
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>>284837825
>then why are you complaining about fictional 2D women having sex?
Where?
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THERE'S A CLOWN ON THE LOOSE
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>>284837856
But I love when anime girls have sex
Stop fighting boogeymen
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>find the manga funny because how casual they are with each other during sex
>open the thread

Does /a/ have the highest concentration of miserable worthless incels that would honestly make the world a better place if they just killed themselves en masse? Everyone around you hopes that you will do it too you know.
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>>284837793
It's insane how delusional you are.
Do you even know the current situation South Korea is in?
Government can either catter to the old farts in retirement or young people in the working class but because democracy is a scam, old people which are more numerous and influential will always elect a governement cattering to them alone.
This is an endless cycle, young people are manipulated by the system up until they stray away of it or just succumb to it.
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>image board
>no one posts images
>>284837839
Moto GP
>>284837935
which hasnt been the norm since the 90s. a real shame really. that's what happens when you want to "appeal to a bigger market" (that does not exist)
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>>284835359
You don't have to make the same life choices. You just have to stop being an asinine waste on 4chan ruining every discussion by shrieking in fury any time the topic of relationships or family, fictional or otherwise, are brought up. Generally, that behavior is caused by inceldom. Of COURSE there are cases where non-incels are retarded psychopaths, and incels are quiet and calm and don't get upset at romance as a topic. But by and large the pattern is pretty noticeable and it drags down threads every time we have to deal with some incel's sensitive feelings and tiptoe around his self-deceiving beliefs that it's society/women/the jews' fault that everything in his life is bad, so he needs to spend his day trying to ruin everyone else's day too.

Simple as that. In fact I believe the classic aphorism to summarize this is, "Don't start no shit, won't be no shit"
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>>284813426
>>284813506
Their sex life is boring because mangakas are afraid of exploring sexual relationships. They always use hentai-logic
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>>284838017
Lrn2read
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>>284838026
>more angry tears
Jesus bro, calm down, this is not good for you. Do you want to talk it out?
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>>284800130
>think the whole point is their previous relationships fucked them up so hard mentally that it's kinda ruined the idea of dating for them
whats the gist of it? most of the time in this scenarios is just a nothingburger
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>>284796443
>check the doujin version
>it's all been purged by daiz
Fucking bald faggot.
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>>284838034
This is something that's always amazing that more people don't get. It's the same for a lot of similar topics, like nudity and intimacy and bathing. There's the general, everyday cultural values and behaviors held by the average Japanese, and then there's the oversexualized fetishization or obsessive anxiety embraced by the niche manga author corners of society that paint imperfect pictures that are then absorbed by foreign readers and mislead them into a skewed perception of what Japan is really like and how people actually act.
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>>284838085
It's a very obvious pattern when you just clumsily reproduce phrases and shitposts that may have been used effectively on you at one time in the hopes you'll "get lucky" and land a "hit" in some zero-sum shitpost game yourself.

To wit, here's what you totally weren't expecting:
>Do you want to talk it out?
Absolutely! Let's rap. Tell me about your lovelife and the anxieties you have.
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>>284838034
I don't see how their sex life is hentai-logic. It's pretty average all this considered.
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>anxieties
None in particular but you're the one keeps angryposting, so feel free to share them with me :)
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>>284799936
No, but these two dorks are not fuckbuddies as they are exclusive with each other, spend all their time together, and even decline other suitors for each other. Thats the whole point of the manga - they’re scared of the label despite being in a committed, healthy relationship with one another.
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>>284838200
>4 rounds minimum
>average
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>>284838287
I thought you were referring to the manga in the posts you were quoting.
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>>284837642
>The same as having casual sex doesnt really make you feel any better in the long run
Empty platitude that people repeat to feel smart.

Casual sex with attractive women can be a life-affirming and huge self-esteem boost for a man. It shouldn't be an endgoal or purpose that he dedicates his life to, but it can definitely do good for his psyche and general attitude to life if he's at least experienced it for a while. The opposite is true for women.

>The real next step is finding true love and having an unique connection with that other person for the rest of your life
Of course you'd say something so silly about casual sex. You're a bluepill who still believes in "soul mates" and "true love", a fool who still hasn't left Plato's Cave.
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>>284838262
>transparent ironic emoticons
>"if i just prove the other guy's angry i'll win the shitpost game and not have to face the tragedy I'm unfolding on my life"
See, it don't work like that, because anger can in fact be perfectly reasonable and justified.

I AM angry you're throwing away the one precious life you have, but unlike you I don't play anger for points, I temper it and use it to help me move towards a goal. I want to help you. You aren't happy, and it shows. Do you want to actually waste time pretending ":)" isn't an obvious signal to someone else who's been on 4chan for 20 years? You deserve more, but right now you're your own worst enemy.
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>>284838334
That anon is not me, I'm talking that that ball of anxiety had 0 problems with her first time and their sex life never improves or gets explored. You just get a "they had sex" panel and the author moves on to another thing, it never became something that is part of their characters. Authors always do this they remove the sex from the characters
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>>284801364
>motoshit
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>>284838373
>Casual sex with attractive women can be a life-affirming and huge self-esteem boost for a man. It shouldn't be an endgoal or purpose that he dedicates his life to, but it can definitely do good for his psyche and general attitude to life if he's at least experienced it for a while.
So why all the mansluts are alcoholics, drug addicts or have really bad mental health issues????
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>>284838373
t. loner who have never found true love
It's so sad there are people who will never experience that bliss in their entire lives
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>>284838402
> been on 4chan for 20 years
Ouch bro. Maybe I can't help you after all but good luck anyway.
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>>284800130
>their previous relationships fucked them up so hard mentally
eh? i dont see it, the girl didn't change and neither does the guy showing very little emotion
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>>284838287
it is losers with low stamina and sex drive like you that lowers the average
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>>284838478
"Help" with what? Being "on" 4chan doesn't--and definitely *shouldn't*--imply that 100% of the time is spent being online, but it's more than enough time to recognize the obvious patterns. If you're thinking in those terms, aren't you saying a bit about yourself? How many years have you been here, since we're on the subject?
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>>284838457
>So why all the mansluts are alcoholics, drug addicts or have really bad mental health issues????
They're not addicts because they're mansluts, they're mansluts because they're addicts.

>>284838472
>incel1!!!1
Pathetic. Stay stuck in that cave, fool.
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>>284838505
it's not about them changing but about being unable to keep acting like retards once they start dating for real because they have to conform to social norms

the FeMC from the LA liked her role because she could be as much of a slut on screen as she wanted without getting flak for it
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>>284838373
>You're a bluepill who still believes in "soul mates" and "true love", a fool who still hasn't left Plato's Cave.
Platos cave is about realizing that the shadows on the wall are pale imitations of reality whose vivid beauty strikes you in a way you could never imagine.
Your sentiment is that of a defeatist who admits that reality is so cruel and meager that it can never compare to the beautiful shadows that were crafted from its image, and would rather resign himself to degeneracy and senseless hedonism than strive for something more meaningful.
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>>284838412
Did we read the same manga? It explicitly tells you that the strongest emotions she felt during the first few times were pain and tension, and that he worked to change that. We even see her on top later on.
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>>284838645
Pathetic is the fact you lack reading comprehension and just assume I called you an incel, retarded nigger
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>>284838662
You don't impress anyone complaining about "degeneracy" and "hedonism" when you're literally afraid of sex. I strongly doubt you're the right-wing savior tHe rAcE has been waiting for. Please, define "degeneracy" for me.
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>>284838544
>"Help" with what?
So you can stop being so angry and bitter online.
>How many years have you been her
Way less than you, considering that 20 years ago I was using crayons to draw pokemon.
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>>284837839
>>284838454
Wtf is a motoshit? Takagi moto?
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>>284838855
>just projecting back
It's just terribly sad. You're in this thread trying to win shitpost games with the most tired tactics, "laughing reaction pics", buzzwords/meme phrases, emoticons, "im not mad its u who are mad", etc all the same old transparent flimsy ego-barriers we've seen a thousand times to sidestep the real issue. Nothing about that pattern of pathological behavior suggests "Actually I'm perfectly happy and well-adjusted, just havin a laff". So we can try to work through the issue, or you can go to bed tonight having passed up another opportunity to change. Do you want to do or feel something different tomorrow than you did today and yesterday, or do want to continue repeating the same rut that's been ongoing for God knows how long?
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>>284838894
i grew up with a girl that looked like her but she's not the one i married
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>>284838662
I'd say true love is actually part of the reality that faggot refuse to believe in, which makes it quite ironic that he uses the Plato's cave reference
He believes only in his hedonistic shadows that the media and retards taught him about, thinking sex is only that and not a way to form a deeper connection with the person
The fag will rant and imply and reduce any opposition to strawmen, but in the end, the only fact here is that he has never known true love, which is why he doesnt even believe in it and thus cant tell the difference between casual sex and sex with love
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>>284838855
it's interesting that you're bragging about being here only a few years when your trajectory suggests you're going to spend the rest of your life here
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>>284838750
>Did we read the same manga? It explicitly tells you that the strongest emotions she felt during the first few times were pain and tension, and that he worked to change that. We even see her on top later on.
I'm talking entire Arcs not these pathetic low effort nonsense. Authors never take sex seriously for them is something that happens and them they move to other stuff. I hate it
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Do people really have sex as easily as it's always portrayed in these kind of manga/manhwa?
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>>284838961
don't reply to yourself, the plato's cave guy was right
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>>284838908
Here we go again with the angry long posts. I told you already your case is so far gone for me to handle.
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>>284839014
>Do people really have sex as easily as it's always portrayed in these kind of manga/manhwa?
Nope, in real life you don't have magical sexual powers like in Manga it can take decades to get some good sex. Humans in real life are extremely complicated
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>>284838992
As long as you're here with me babe everything will be fine.
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>>284839053
>extremely complicated
*complex
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>>284838648
then there is no such thing as them getting mentally fucked up hard from their previous relationship, not from what i read at least

and if there is no change or anything similar then i dont see the appeal, not like i can even empathize with them since they weren't exactly good partners to begin with
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>>284835818
Sir? What do you mean by "porn before"? Are you implying that OP isn't porn?
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>>284839014
Yes if you aren't self-conscious and neurotic. No if you are. Having sex is literally the easiest thing in the world. Getting a girlfriend is ridiculously easy too, just don't tell the girl you had sex with to go home after.
Of course your first one isn't going to be high quality, that's why you practice first.
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>>284838997
You're asking for something too specific. Unfortunately sex is something that happens and then you move to other stuff. The manga puts more focus on the coexistence part of a relationship.
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>>284839148
>Having sex is literally the easiest thing in the world.
Maybe bad sex but good sex is extremely difficult to accomplish
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>>284839138
i mean it's on a blue board and i don't see it getting deleted so...
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>>284838908
Why are you so mad over a smug anime girl pic?
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>>284839014
depends
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>>284839179
There's an old saying: Sex is like pizza, even when it's bad, it's good.
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>>284838842
>I strongly doubt you're the right-wing savior tHe rAcE has been waiting for.
I dont give a fuck about breeding and eugenics shit.
>Please, define "degeneracy" for me.
Casual sex is degrading for a man because the entire mindset of using sex as a means to affirm his masculinity and boost his confidence just teaches him to use other peoples feelings and bodies as mere tools for his self-gratification. It degrades his moral character because it shows his inability to regard others as individuals in their own right and thus his inability to function as a lover or family member because respect for anothers autonomy is the bare minimum requirement to have such meaningful relationships. A woman with genuine self-respect will reject a manwhore and a woman that doesnt degrades herself by falling to his level.
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>>284839177
>Unfortunately sex is something that happens and then you move to other stuff. The manga puts more focus on the coexistence part of a relationship.
Sex is one of the most important pillars for a relationship, there are a lot of psychological factors and physical factors that affects you even in your subconscious. It never makes sense that authors always ignore it like is not important
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>>284839195
It is a picture of a girl with massive unrealistically big tits which she's showing off to her grass-eater boyfriend (male loser self insert MC). Her nipples are censored with a black bar though, so it's tolerated. But the manga itself is uncensored.
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>>284839230
>Sex is like pizza, even when it's bad, it's good.
That only works on men, for women bad sex, is bad sex
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>>284839014
Some people do. Others are so desperate to get some that they put a ring on an used slut.
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>then there is no such thing as them getting mentally fucked up hard from their previous relationshipwell that used to be the case until the author thought it was a good idea to get the midget involved too. same midget that wanted a steady partner not just a fling, so yeah dont take the initial premise seriously
>and if there is no change or anything similar then i dont see the appeal, not like i can even empathize with them since they weren't exactly good partners to begin with
I men learning to conform to social rules is important
that's why we are all here in purgatory instead
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>>284839138
OP isn't porn, it's the ecchi spinoff of the porn
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>>284839014
>Do people really have sex as easily
Nope, only women do. For men, it's only as easy for well-dressed Black men, surgery and/or looksmaxed East Asian men and white boys who know they place & that the key is to copy Black men. South Asian and Middle East Asian men have it easier if they go to Europe where they can practice ficke ficke on underage girls due to cultural misunderstandings.
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>>284839274
>girl with massive unrealistically big tits
they are not that big
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>>284839177
>Unfortunately sex is something that happens
>>284839250
>Sex is one of the most important pillars for a relationship
I miss old /a/ where we would instantly chase these faggot tourists away.

t. 35 year old virgin & proud
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>>284839230
In the bathroom of the bar I used to haunt in Tokyo, someone scrawled the words: "ALL PUSSY IS GOOD" over the mirror. It was left up till the day the building was demolished (RIP)

>>284839207
The game is already over anon, you bowed out and decided that tomorrow you want to remain exactly the same as you are today, unhappy. My offer to help you was not without an expiration.
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>>284839306
I don't consider depictions of penis in vagina sex with PLAP PLAP sounds and semen sprayed on the girl to be "ecchi". Either the PLAP sex or the semen is too far.
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>>284839324
>I miss old /a/ where we would instantly chase these faggot tourists away.
All those people got old and got married or died
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>>284839274
it's a seinen slice of life manga, not porn. thank you very much
>>284839283
who cares what women think?
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>>284796443
I liked Honeymoon Salad

menage a trois status end
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>>284839283
>for women bad sex, is bad sex
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>>284839370
>who cares what women think?
People that want good sex
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>>284839365
This is probably true, I only started posting on /a/ in 2009 so I never considered myself an oldfag, but now it feels like I am a unicorn surrounded by newfags and 14 year old "um akshully I've been posting on 4chan since 2002" oldfags.
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>sex is normal lololo-
Well it wasn't for me
I exist in the world I was put into
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>>284839397
Men
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>>284839250
>Sex is one of the most important pillars for a relationship
It's not that important for absolutely everyone. It's a fetish manga and they have and talk about sex. It's not about sex itself. I don't know what you want or if you can think of any example.
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>>284838662
More empty platitudes.

How am I the defeatist here when I'm the one accepting the cold harsh REALITY?
You're the one clinging on desperately to myths about some mystical "true love" that is awaiting for you somewhere to give meaning to your life instead of accepting that meaning is what we make it and there's no magical true love or soul mate. You meet someone who is attractive enough for you and has similar values and life goals and you try to work it out, if that is what you want.

>degeneracy and senseless hedonism than strive for something more meaningful.
These buzzwords have no effect on me, because I'm not an idiot who believes that romantic comedies and 20th century disney movies are accurate representations of normal intersexual dynamics.

Having sex with different attractive women isn't degeneracy, it's male biological imperative. It's fine to settle down with a woman who makes your life better and raise a family with her, I'd even say it's the noble thing to do, but it doesn't make you better than a man who chooses (and has the capacity) to sleep with different attractive women for as long as he can.
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>>284839335
I'm not the anon you were talking to so you can stop acting so triggered
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Is the live action drama also a "wholesome seinen slice of life manga, not porn" where the Japanese actress gets plap plap plap'd in the nude?
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>>284839451
>I don't know what you want or if you can think of any example.
it doesn't exist, the closest I can find is sports Manga.
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>>284839324
>Sex is one of the most important pillars for a relationship
This is true though.
>& proud
No you aren't, you clearly can't avoid bringing it up whenever the wound is reopened.

>>284839365
This. The fact I still occasionally come back here to scope out what's going on is my own quirk (I certainly don't care for any anime made in the past 10 years, except KF, my kids loved that, took them to Tobu zoo to see Grape-kun). No one is the 100% perfect ideal, but there's something to be said for not aborting your life getting caught up on something absolutely vital and throwing it away and trying to pretend you're better having never cleared that hurdle.
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first ga li thread that finally reaches bump limit. not even the dumps managed such a feat
this is a win for me!
>>284839403
women arent people and they think the same of you so stop whiteknighting
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>over 500
It's mostly thanks to me, because I masturbated so much to this shitty manga (just chapter 37) and the shitty hentai the author makes (I looked him up on sadpanda). I don't know why, to be honest, I have so many other superior hentai doujins and hentai pictures lined up for being masturbated to.

I'll miss the tits in the OP.
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>>284839545
>women arent people and they think the same of you so stop whiteknighting
I'm too old for that console warrior mentality
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>>284839554
>I don't know why, to be honest, I have so many other superior hentai doujins and hentai pictures lined up for being masturbated to.
Because is boring
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>>284839574
To be fair, she has a point.

t. woman
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>>284839441
Only "sensitive" failed men.
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>>284839545
There are more post about jaded old anons talking about the ugly wife they settled down for after some other guys were done with her, than anything about the manga itself. Fix that and post the femc boobs.
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>>284839319
Based & /thread.

You either die as a white male virgin, or you emulate feminine white men (if east asian) or you copy the Black bvlls. Nothing makes woman's pussy drier than acting white. That is, until she's done with the cock carousel, obviously once she gets tired of all the dicks she wants the "dadbod" white cuck to raise her kids.
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I just sex checked the whole thread using my jutsu, and I found out that every poster ITT had the XY chromosome.
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>>284839601
>>284839618
You don't take this seriously
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>>284839720
You aren't fooling anyone. Everyone here is a little girl.
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>>284839403
People who obsess over what women "want" and try to style themselves as champions and defenders of their needs. Which is the #1 most repulsive thing to most women and the guarantor of being unable to have satisfying sex.

It's honestly surprising that, in the age of the internet, where all this information is readily available, we still have incels falling for the "I need to be sensitive to her needs, I'm one of the GOOD ones, not an ASSHOLE like chad!" nonsense. The classic "Nice Guy" archetype. They aren't really nice, they're selfish and bitter and, ironically, objectify women more than anyone else, but can't help from acting like doormats in the hopes it will get them a touch of skin as an obligatory reward. Women want to be desired, lusted after, and taken, within the complex bounds and rules of the game of sexual dynamics that change over time, yet nonetheless remain more the same than overly feminized programming has led many youth to believe. The quickest way to a saharan desert vagina is stopping every 5 seconds to ask "is this ok? can i do this? we can stop if you want. i'm very sensitive you know, i care about your feelings".
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>>284839768
Based josei smut writer
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>>284839554
then post some more panels you mentally unwell old man
>>284839632
dun care. happy moka sex yahooo!
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>>284839703
>Based & /thread.
Wrong, and terribly sad.

It is not difficult to have sex. It is not difficult to have sex while remaining a man of integrity and value. You don't have to change who you are, but who /YOU/ are sucks, which is why you're enraged and blaming society for your problems. It's not the "black bvlls" fault and it's not the "cock carousel's" fault. It's just you.
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>>284839324
don't forget to add newfag too, retard
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>>284839026
>accuse others of samefagging while blatantly samefagging
You're alone in this, nigger
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>post >>284834883 to give the boys some hopium then leave to eat some yummies at a restaurant with my family
>entire thread self destructs and haven't recovered yet

Damn, it's crazy that you would get so triggered and spend so much time arguing about these super simple, well-known and obvious truths. But at least that indicates that you recognize how much worthless time you have wasted out of your single one and only chance at life. No re-dos in this one but at least you can move forward in a better path!
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>>284839857
Not that anon but you're really stupid if you keep falling for the same bait post after 20 years.
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>>284839890
Ok let me add him to the quotes
>>284839890
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>>284839857
>>284839899
>when the 15 year old who feels mature for his age wants to share his life experiences (that he learned from listening to life coach channels on You-- well probably not anymore, whatever garbo slop kids listen to these day)
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When is this faggot author going to get it over with already, and draw these brown sluts' brown butts getting plapped?
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>>284839899
You should have told us how many penises your wife has sucked instead of some pathetic rant.
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>>284839456
>How am I the defeatist here when I'm the one accepting the cold harsh REALITY?
Unable to find meaning you admit defeat and cope by telling yourself that you cant find it because it must be REALITY and beyond your control instead of trying to actually consider the bounds of what is possible or not.
>"true love" that is awaiting for you somewhere to give meaning to your life instead of accepting that meaning is what we make it
>Having sex with different attractive women isn't degeneracy, it's male biological imperative
Listen to yourself talking about making your own meaning of life and then falling back to citing the authority of "biological imperatives" as if youre no better than a mindless drone obeying its programming. Youre the one denying yourself meaning by resigning yourself to the drives of your biology instead of following your will as a thinking creature.
>it doesn't make you better than a man who chooses (and has the capacity) to sleep with different attractive women for as long as he can.
I already explained how casual sex is morally degenerate in >>284839249 but naturally that only applies if youre capable of thinking of yourself and others as autonomous and thinking individuals instead of tools and automatons.
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>>284839899
More crazy is that you still reply to yourself after hours just to pretend people care about your reddit pasta
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>>284839965
Me and my wife are honest with each other and she told me she only sucked 15 before she met me. She was my first.
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>>284839298
>dont take the initial premise seriously
i don't, like i said i find it boring, i just don't know where that anon got that they got fucked up from their last relationship when that isn't the case
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>>284839996
Brave and empowering
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>>284839932
>newfag got mad after i exposed him
never fails to make me laugh
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>>284839959
brown sluts dont pay the bills anon (or magical girls if you also liked that one) sorry
kind of weird how there hasnt been any okinawan in this one tho
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>>284834883
Very based and truthful longpost and quite frankly very much like what I tend to write myself.
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>>284839968
Nah, you're just a loser huffing on copium.
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>>284839768
a major problem is inexperienced men listening to what women say they want. The frustration is entirely understandable if you aren't accustomed to women and how they operate. Nowadays there are also very real consequences even if you do know how to play the game but she has next morning regret for whatever reason
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>>284840042
Based oldsaar.
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>>284840055
Thank you my fellow gentleman, I tip my hat off to you as well.
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>>284840074
heh newfag you still don't get it I outed you newfag
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>>284840124
not me but this, haha
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>>284839956
>>284839965
>>284839988
What do you mean? This is probably the funniest train wreck I have seen in a while. I shamefully proud that a simple retelling of my experiences could drive random incels across the planet into a frenzy like this!
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>>284840100
I didn't see that longpost at first so now that I do it's not surprising that some of the wretched incels thought I was the same person.
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>>284840006
from the very first chapter? id post the precious page but im not getting a vacation for posting 4 little dots
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>>284840139
>hehe, I am such an intellectual nihilistic comedian who just comes here to laugh at you 4channel dot org virgins
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>>284840139
>thinks being called out means he made everyone mad
silly
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>>284839768
>>284839857
>>284840072
Shut up bot
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>>284840187
You incels just cannot cope with my sex experiences, which you will never have.

>>284840210
I am not a bot, you are schizophrenic. I will now leave this thread, so anyone who replies to you further is pretending to be me.
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>>284840139
>simple
I don't think anyone but you have the free time to put so much effort in a rant. Pay more attention to your retarded son instead of wasting your time online. You aren't as young and free as me.
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It has been a joy to make fun of old fags fighting boogeymen. Thanks for the ride, losers.
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>thread constantly sliding to page 10 for like 2 days, but kept alive by some autists bumping it off the last page
>leave for a couple of hours
>come back
>300 new posts, bump limit reached
???
What happened?
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>>284840279
Based 17 year old rascal raconteur intelligentperson.
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>It has been a joy to make fun of old fags fighting boogeymen. Thanks for the ride, losers.
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>>284840223
Haha it's super easy and takes less than a minute, I have probably spent less total time in this thread than you judging by your mood. Additionally the fact that you are wasting your youth here leads me to think that I was more free than you at your age if that is the metric you are using.
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>>284840293
>What happened?
>>284830900

The rest was just butterfly effect. If I wasn't so horny that even such bottom of the barrel "ecchi" (seinen slice of life) elected my penis, this thread would be long dead.
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>>284840293
Some samefag started writing long rants.
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>>284840333
>Haha it's super easy and takes less than a minute with my vibe prompting skills, I have probably spent less total time in this thread than you judging by your mood. Additionally the fact that you are wasting your youth here leads me to think that I was more free than you at your age if that is the metric you are using.
Joke's on you, I haven't read a single one of your promptposts.
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>>284840293
Some redditor posted some shitty pasta to pretend he's successful and has been replying to himself over and over for hours to make people believe anyone cares
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>>284840333
Sounds like you have anger issues more than anything
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>>284840169
a big nothing burger
that's just them being shitty people
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>>284840139
What's fascinating is how they always SIMULTANEOUSLY believe the paradox of:
>uh akshually sex isn't very important, getting married and starting a family isn't an important pillar of life! stop trying to force it!
and
>oh god sex is EVERYTHING, if I can't have sex than this world is hell, corrupted by evil society just to disenfranchise ME, if only I could have sex all my problems would be FIXED but I CAN'T because THE JEWS/WOMEN/BLACK BVLLS/DOGS/INTERNET PORN

Sexual contact is necessary to not be an insane reject loser who will never have anything useful to offer the world. But it also won't fix all your problems, lol. It's impossible to communicate to these children (30-year old children, GOD) what it's like to be in a marriage where your most fulfilling times are just sitting next to each other on the bed reading. They're still hysterically raising their blood pressure over "b-b-but if she's not a VIRGIIN then she's not worth me!" while remaining in their caves until the last bit of relationship value they might have has completely evaporated
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Goals
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>>284840411
The fact that you actually believe that everyone else must be a miserable a failure just because you are is genuine, actual, really-needs-to-be-treated-by-a-professional-i'm-not-kidding Mental Illness with a capital M.
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>>284840045
Gay. These Brown bitches make my penis erect. Would be better if he made a hentai-version of the Gyaru manga instead of the friends one.
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>>284840442
>Sexual contact is necessary to not be an insane reject loser
I could say Catholic priest or nun, and you would counter that with the predictable, but what about wholesome southern BLACK Catholic nun, or buddhist monks? Debunked!
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>>284840442
>angry old man crying because he can't even get second hand goods
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>>284840293
tomoka is that powerful
(also incel rage)
>>284840440
they also seem uncomfortable at the beginning of chapter 12 I think while dating other people
and it meant shit because he still dated his boss and she is totally okay now with being fuckbuddies
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I've been married for 18 years and I still like to masturbate to anime&manga.
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Why does this faggot loser author not have any recent hentai doujins on Sadpanda?
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>>284840293
some guy wrote a long post about how it's never too late and it's worth it to break out of your shell before he supposedly went out to eat and it triggered less fortunate people into defending their lifestyle choices like their lives depended on it.

Tldr: Defensive trauma response. Incel PTSD
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>>284840442
How many dicks she had? You are too coward to answer the question, loser.
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>>284840502
I am the "second hand goods" LOL. Divorced a white slag and married a japanese woman, life's been a million times better ever since.
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>>284840522
Based, I've also been married for 16 years (meaning I've had my anime waifu since 2009, just like you married yours in 2007) and I still masturbate to other girls in anime&manga. It's not cheating, it's a different universe.
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>>284840491
the magical girl from his other manga did appear once or twice and the gyarus appear as portraits on some rooms now that i think of it
a shame they themselves dont appear
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>>284840568
I already answered that, she had 15 in her mouth and it doesn't bother me in the slightest.
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>>284840487
You are posting here, dude, stop pretending to be any different
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>>284840603
it's making me ungry
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>>284840512
yeah but again nothing like getting mentally fucked up like that anon says, just a nothing burger
would be more interesting, to me at least, if they did have some actual baggage but the series isn't about that so, whatever
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>>284840568
Which "she"? I've fucked virgins and I've fucked non-virgins, what statistics are you looking for exactly, and how does that justify you being an incel loser with zero value to anyone?
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>>284840512
so tomoka is a cuckqueen?
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>>284840481
This is why you work out
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>>284840603
hot
>>284840638
it's a lighthearted series for the most part so forget about it having any drama
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I'm the only one here old enough to have LIVE watched Freddie's duet Mountains Rat Carbine, as they sang "Barcelona" in the Spain summer olympics. And I ain't never had a girlfriend or sex and that's fine with me.
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>>284840650
>incel loser with zero value to anyone?
I don't know, since you are one larping angry incel you can tell me.
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>>284840522
Original long poster here.
Same but you mog me in years married. Like I said originally it's fine to be into anime but you should try to have the door open to developments in other areas of life at the same time. Now there are people masquerading as me and I believe as the guy who originally shit his pants at me too, however.
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>>284840621
Oh, I'm quirky to be sure, probably on "the spectrum" in some vague aspect not that I give a shit, but I'm not an unmarried loser adult incel wretch. I had male friends growing up so I got socialized more than the average basement loser, maybe that's what you lacked.

Also "incel" is such a misnomer, there's no such thing. You're not *involuntarily* celibate, you CHOOSE to be a loser out of cowardice.
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I dont care about traumas, but couldn't this bitch have picked an actual chad to fuck instead of some boring loser? How am I supposed to self-insert in this?
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>>284840650
You wife of course. Don't tell me you don't have one and that's why you're always so angry.
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>>284840671
as of the last chapter i think she is cheating on him with someone else but we will see
and yes she is
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>>284840674
Wrong. The few posters ITT who work out do it because they think it will enable them to have sex (or confidence first, then sex) and because they're too afraid to just take steroids, which would give them more confidence and more muscle mass with less than 1% of the time & money wasted.
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>>284840721
>>284840728
meds, stop pretending to be me
>>284840221
>I am not a bot, you are schizophrenic. I will now leave this thread, so anyone who replies to you further is pretending to be me.
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>>284840721
Probably, at least one guy here is definitely having a mad crashout. The saddest thing is they think it's not obvious and transparent. That's how you know someone is really far gone; they think if they just post the shitpost words, it will somehow change reality. It's like that game you play with infants where they think you can't see them if they can't see you.
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I don't even remember the dude's name. He has 0 charisma even though the story throws hot chicks at him
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>>284840736
>couldn't this bitch have picked an actual chad to fuck instead of some boring loser?
Bro? This is literally a Mushoku Tensei tier manga for loser incels to self insert as.
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>>284840728
You're a failure simply because you can't even conceive the idea that people arguing with you is anything other than the lame strawman you keep describing to make you feel safe
No point in keep replying, go dilate and let this thread die already
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>>284840728
You are posting vile and bitter meltdowns, much worse than any of what those "incels" have posted while assuming everyone is in a worse position than you so you can feel better. You are crearly angry and mentally unwell.
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>>284840728
>Oh, I'm quirky to be sure
I would instantly kill myself if I was such a soulless subhuman to just post this (even if it's AI generated) crap about my thread persona.
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>>284840747
Shut up and work out for your woman!
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>>284840745
>the more the story progresses, the more obvious it becomes that the FMC was the lowest tier of whore possible from the start
Glad I dropped this mess, the characters were making me nauseous already
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>>284840808
Basically this but anon is too far gone to notice his hypocrisy.
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>>284840740
>wife
Which one? My first was a virgin, I married my first girlfriend and were miserable within 2 years. We divorced, I left the country, traveled, dated, gradually transformed (I never thought I'd get into dancing, but I was really sweet on a house dj once). Eventually remarried a japanese woman who is asleep on the bed behind me as I type loudly on my keyboard at 4 in the morning because the holidays have fucked my sleep schedule.
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I'm the only real girl and I am laughing both at the "long poster with a long wife" and the incels. Gonna suck off my Black bf afterwards.
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>>284840836
So, you're telling me you have mental illness and suicidal thoughts.

Please, ask someone for help.
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>>284840880
>My first was a virgin
Ew.
>He's now fantasizing about arranged marriages with his cousin Rajesha.
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>>284840880
>yeah bro, I totally fulfilled the common fantasy here and hated it, so I went the other way around and now I can enjoy life with my 2D japanese wife
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>>284840915
>braindead faggot fell for it
Aaaand bot confirmed. Guns out, tits out, mission complete. Guess your prompts weren't quirky enough, eh?
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>>284840880
doubt.jpg
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The only reason this thread reached pump limit is because jannies are slacking again
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>>284840958
She should do this in the low risers in Baltimore.
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>>284840688
I know I was more focused on that anon trying to sell something deeper about the two MCs when there isn't such thing
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>>284840442
>reject loser who will never have anything useful to offer the world.
servile mindset of a drone who is neurotic about how useful he is to society at large and is terrified of violating social norms
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>>284840880
>anon and his japanese wife
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>>284840863
what did you expect from the whore that wants to be seen fucking in public
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>>284840992
Huge if true. Can you collate some evidence? I'll bring this up at the next managerial meeting. Send me a 'pem' afterwards.
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>>284840958
can this slut degrade herself even more? why is this not an outright hentai manga at this point? the bitch is basically a babylon whore
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>>284840944
I seriously don't know how to get someone like you back to reality.

>I totally fulfilled the common fantasy here and hated it
Yes? It happens literally all the time, every single day, all over the world. You said it yourself: it's a FANTASY, not reality. You've fetishized it so much it's kept you sealed away evaporating what little value you have. You threw your life away because you constructed that fantasy for yourself and convinced yourself (knowing full well it was a lie) that it justified your miserable lonely lifestyle.
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>>284841058
>peepee poopoo caca
why are you still sucking your own dick on this forum of all places?
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>>284834883
This thread is easily the best one on /a/ right now THANK YOU longposter whereever you may be
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>>284841106
Because no one else is doing that for him.
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>>284841106
He's crearly a very insecure little man with anger issues.
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>>284834883
gonna use this on other threads to reach bump limit too
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>>284841045
it was all a dream
they do fuck in the rooftop once tho
>why is this not an outright hentai manga at this point?
because ity has a plot and we are dying to know if they will end up dating like in every other romcom :)
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>>284841106
>>284841124
>>284841163
>total crashout
I look forward to seeing you still shitting blood on 4chan tomorrow whenever a manga with people having sex appears.

Remember: you are the architect of your misery.
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good thread
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>>284841045
>why is this not an outright hentai manga at this point?
It is.
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hey real quick what's the name of this series
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>>284841199
>everyone calling me out is this miserable strawman I just made up
you're the only clown here
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>>284841274
read the thread
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>>284841269
I dont see any squirting pussies with barely any censor
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>>284841199
Are you going to live that long without killing youself?
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>>284841285
>made up
lmao
you shit blood every day though
it's the pattern that's never left
look how much blood you shat in just this one thread haha
all cause you can't have sex??? wtf
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I think Tomoka looked way better with long hair and natural color
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>>284841320
>said the faggot while maniacally laughing and foaming in his basement
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>>284841313
?
i have sex anon, i'm fine
how come you shit so much blood today?

how can you not be able to have sex, that's just weird, i don't get it
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>used good thread
>a bunch of pathetic cuckcels have a meltdown
Every time
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>>284834883
I just want to say THANK you LONGPOSTER you have saved my life. I have screencapped your post for future generations.
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>>284841377
japanese houses don't usually have basements
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>>284841380
?
But I fucked you a moment ago
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Do you guys think these incels sperg the fuck out like they did in this thread IRL too if they hear the suggestion that they should try to seek human contact? Do you think they calm down when they are told "you don't have to stop watching anime, you can do both at the same time!" or are they already in an autistic fit at that point? HAHAHA!

Tell us fellow spergs of this thread: When you get the recommendation irl from idk let's say your parents do you wave around your arms and scream, pull out a graph of whatever stats you found online why woman bad or do you seethe internally until you find release in one of these threads?
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>>284841381
Can I get a quick QRD run down on why everyone calling the girl who posted this OP "used good"?
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>>284841403
You're welcome sir, I respectfully nod towards you.
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Been a while since I saw an autist repeatedly claim his troll post was an epic win to the point of reaching bump limit
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>>284841458
She got fucked by her ex. At least one.
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>>284841452
I used to know an internet incel like these guys, he would literally start pounding the table in rage when he saw things he didn't like, and get up and start walking back and forth muttering to himself.
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>>284841498
And..? So?
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>>284841458
because she is?
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>>284841523
And what?
You asked a question and I answered.
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>>284841452
>>284841502
Weird, why are so many of these posts from India? t. fellow Indian who has the same Indian ISP, so these posts are reseting my counter
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Well, now that the thread is about to die, I guess I can admit it was mostly just me, thanks for watching my little show!
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>>284841553
Also, I want to add that I am trans & trans rights!
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>>284841452
Actual, unironic question: The thread's about to die in like 10 seconds. Should I literally take a video of my screen showing this thread and then turn around and show my japanese wife sleeping on the bed behind me? I think it would ACTUALLY literally kill some people.
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>>284841594
>Should I literally take a video of my screen showing this thread and then turn around and show my japanese wife sleeping on the bed behind me?
Yes do it saar.
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>>284841452
Half of my friend watch anime. So did my ex.
Sound just like an issue that you made up in your little mind.
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>>284841594
make sure to show her bobs and vegene too sar
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>>284841594
Only if the slut is naked, saar
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>>284841609
>>284841649
Okay sars, I started generating video prompt, hope thread doesn't run out first haha
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what compels someone to spam a thread like this?
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>>284841674
They are jealous of my longposts, my long penis and my long relationship with my long Japanese wife.
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>>284841674
Having a sad life
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>>284841674
The mental illness of being a sexless adult is no joke.



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