Produced by the Government of Japan's Agency for Cultural Affairshttps://youtube.com/watch?v=uTWV9pC-VbkDid you see your favorite anime/manga character?Did it make (You) want to stop pirating anime and manga?
I vill download ze cars
>no MHA my fucking sides
>>285486111The only reason why anime and manga will be stored in 100 years is because of piracy
30TB HDDs are already out you can store every manga ever made on 3 of them
MAKE THE SHIT AVAILABLE THEN FUCKASSES
>>285486235Deku was there after Tanjiro
who fucking cares
>>285486287ermmm.. NO! baka GAIJIN GO HOME!
did they use music they don't have the rights to for full immersion at least?
>>285486318publishers and advertisers
>>285486287>Nintendo didn't like this
>>285486111>using Luffy for an Anti-Piracy PSA
>>285486383to be fair Luffy is the definition of "Pirate"
Piratebros, are we the bad guys?
>>285486111Piracy is literally the only reason anime and manga is big today. It was considered a joke when all we had were shitty VHS tapes.
>>285486503no, it's the hostile marketplace that burns japanese media before it enters the westersphere that's wrong.
I don't even want to watch anime in the first place, learn how to animate.
>>285486503>do not go back to the authorhow is that my problem? raise their salary
>>285486111>censor shit, get half-assed translations, retarded mangaka that don't take the spine into account for spreads, and let faggots push their agenda by changing what the original text said>thinking I'm going to spend money on that shitIf they want my money for physical manga, they better purge the Western industry of this scum and get dumbass faggots like Oda to understand they need a FUCKING SPACE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SPREAD SO I CAN PROPERLY FUCKING SEE IT IN A TANKOBON
>>285486503NoSuits are retards. The future of manga is in the internet and monetized by ads, not physical volumes outside of collecting purposes.Jump + has the right idea
The creators don't get any money when I buy the used DVD on ebay, either.
Still waiting for the Steam® of anime & manga that will probably never come...
>>285486111stop making color pages b&w in volumesit's disgusting
>>285486353https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF18NehJxos
>>285486503Who knows but our enemies certainly aren't the good guys.
>>285486111Unbelievably tone deaf to make an anti-piracy PSA for English audiences. How the fuck do they think anime/manga got as popular over here to begin with? It sure as hell would not have by exclusively official means. Fan translations are the only means for non-Japanese audiences to read/watch a lot of works, because they will never be translated officially, and there are not many popular incentives for someone outside of Japan to purchase the original Japanese version.There's also the issue of the official means of translation sometimes involve outright rewrites, changes, and censorship. Why the hell would I support that? Especially when only pennies to the dollar will go to the actual creatives, if any at all.The other thing that grinds my gears is that the most popular means to watch anime "officially" these days is >streaming.Guess what? 100 years from now, there might not be an "official" means to watch a show from this era. Other than the people who purchased physical discs, or more importantly the many more pirates who downloaded the show to their HDD and have the ability to share the show for years to come. Possibly even 100 years.Piracy enables media like anime and manga to exist perpetually. Piracy allows for people outside of Japan to watch and read Japanese media they probably could not otherwise.
>>285486503Fortunately I don't pay for pirated work so no profits are sent to the wrong person.
>>285486111>AssClassOh the irony
"Piracy is a service issue"
When the fuck did nips ever buy BDs, they just buy figgies and pop-up merch like westerners do.
>>285486111Save us from what?
>>285486111>Refuse to provide a good service >PLEASE JUST GET RAPED LET US RAPE YOU IN THE ASS PLEASEEE WE BEG YOU Fuck the retard nips. Mangaplus was a step in the right direction but that's it.
>>285486111Fuck yeah, new pokerap drop
>>285486111why arent there any black people in the PSA?
>>285486626>wholesome piece>reeeeeeee I hate localization
>>285486555This doesn't help your case you know.
It's not about money. It's a spiritual autism issue where foreigners are damaging the purity of Japanese works by viewing them at all.
>>285486111Berserkbros are honorable people.
Japs will never understand that piracy not only created the overseas market, but is a requirement for any serious fan here. If you cut out distribution “localizers” and allowed fans to tip the studios themselves they would do that.
>>285486913>muh preservation autism Kill yourself, nothing not worth saving hasn’t already been archived. The have places for animation reels nigger
>>285486111>JodioHe most definitely pirated Pink Dark Boy's anime.
>>285486111Don't care, still not paying.
>>285486111Anime would have no value outside of japan if not for piracy.
>>285487276Yeah, it's already been archived. The people who made that PSA want to ban those archives and burn them.
>>285487276What struck a nerve about preservation for you? You have no idea what you're talking about.
>>285487031Japanese are too autistic to just follow the money. Unless it causes a scandal from customer complaints they'll shoot themselves in the foot until the end of time.
>>285486111Post anime and manga characters that would totally pirate shit
>>285486503Neither anime profits nor disc sales nor streaming revenue goes to the authors, what is this bullshit, should't they focus on this first?>but this is only about mangaNOBODY BUY THE MANGA OUTSIDE JAPAN ANYWAYSAnd people that didn't spend money before will never do it, at least with piracy your work will get known by the entire planet and have a chance to make profit, that is in fact better than nothing.
>>285486111
>>285486503>profits from unauthorized pirated copiesThat's not how anime and manga piracy works. This is so out of touch.
>>285486111Meanwhile the jap state is currently busy whoring out its properties to (((american))) companies like blackrock and netflix. Wew.How about this nippon, I will save whatever I want when I wanrt, I will keep it on my own XHD, and when shit is absolutely fucked beyond all recognition - I'll still have the good shit with me, safe from any streaming monopoly and their zogged out "turn all the characters into sub-saharans" propaganda... whoops, I mean """productions""".
>>285487547That's what ordinary people don't understand about the situation. To the Japanese, it is worse than nothing. They do not want you reading their work.
>>285486111They really went all out with this new version of the Pokerap.
>>285486405Dunno, Luffy steals food that rightfully belongs to others constantly and he looks down upon those who he stoles the food from, he always goes "don't bother me when I'm eating" then punches them away, stealing is what he does even if he isn't evil
>>285487477
>>285486405>>285487723He always turns a blind eye to Nami looting ancient artifacts from the kingdoms they visit too. They looted Shandora.
>>285486626Pretty much this. If I really like something I'll get it imported straight from Japan but I am not putting a penny into the western side of the industry unless they get rid of all the people running and working in it who hate me and hate anime.
>>285486913Another thing to consider is the relative difference in purchasing power necessary to purchase anime or manga. Cost of living and average salary differences have to play a factor too.
>>285486111That ad raped my ears, I'm pirating double in compensation.
>>285487477Constanze seeds.
>>285486111I might take industry calls against piracy more seriously if they weren't by far the best way to actually preserve anime and manga. I started laughing when the video brought up Golgo 13. Remember that manga had a fully complete anime adaptation that was left in a warehouse of old IPs and was almost trashed because it's rightsholder couldn't even be bothered to check the warehouse for their own properties. A third party advocacy group found it.
>No fair use, literally throws people in jail for copyright violations>Draconian obscenity laws even before western corporate censorship is applied>Constant stream of isekai and teen romcom garbage instead of experimental stuff like in the 90s-2000sNah, those slant-eyes can go fuck themselves. Two nukes weren't enough.
So how do you ensure that anime gets made long into the future if everyone pirates?
>>285486626Piracy exists because it's filling a market demand that publishers aren't filling. It's funny because the vast majority of "pirates" don't even make money anyways. It's just fans sharing and translating media that they love for others to enjoy. So since the media industry can't take the angle that the pirates are making it rich off the black market, all they can do is pretend like it hurts the authors who make like 5% of the total revenue from sales after the publishers and distributors rake in the other 95%. Fuck those people.It won't ever happen, but media companies should be looking at piracy as market research and doing everything in their power to provide an equivalent service/product to piracy sites.
Localising Zoro as Zolo is already enough to justify piracy forever.
>>285486111>One Punch ManHis name is Bald Cape.Anime/Manga would be nothing outside of Japan without piracy.>>285486287>MAKE THE SHIT AVAILABLE THEN FUCKASSESThis, if they print the manga in my Narcobanana country Ecuador I'd buy it.
>>285487155>why arent there any black people in the PSA?Because it was not made by Usans.
>>285486111>>285486503But in the end, all piracy pays for itself.After watching a pirated series, I comment on it on social media sites like 4chan, so I'm like an advertising worker whose time is spent giving visibility to their product. And instead of paying me with money, as they should, I settle for them paying me by letting me watch their pirated anime.Those who want to charge their marketing workers instead of paying them are very shameless.
>>285486111>actually addressing the real issues of the industry and working towards making a better ecosystem for creators, animators, and other talented peopleToo difficult, not financially viable>putting the blame on piratesEasy, punchy and easily digestible to the layman
>>285486626As long as shit sucks, pirating won't stop. Only idiots are willing to pay higher prices than the Japanese do for much shittier products just because a mangaka cried over not getting a percent.
>>285486111Anime and manga wouldn't even exist today without piracy, they should thank the pirate sites that made it big.
>>285486287>ACCESS DENIED>THIS MATERIAL ISN'T AVAILABLE IN YOUR REGION>The owner of this website (GO HOME) has banned the country or region your IP address
Buying a physical copy of something before knowing its worth the purchase? In this economy?
>Pls don't pirate anime and manga gaijin>Show Kinnikuman and Doremi that don't even have any offical releases for their entire series>among countless othersThey really live in their own little bubble don't they?
>>285489251to be fair most japs read it for free in malls and libraries while waiting for the train home
Japanese corporate suits still trying to push this muh piracy strawman in 2026 (and at the same time trying to sneak AI slop in production everywhere while playing GOMENASIA WE DIDN'T KNOW card after outrage) is peak clown fest.Why are japs so retarded? Why are they always pushing retarded nonsense or trying to invent bicycle again?Remember Illusion porn games and their insane anti-modding stance?
>>285489251This how my shelves are full of single volumes
I buy physical volumes of things I really enjoy. I figure out if I enjoy them by pirating a volume or two. I understand that you think that I should pay to even give any manga a shot. Japanese publishers must understand that I disagree and will continue to pirate and that they can eat a bag of dicks. Or don't. I don't care. Japanese companies are retarded, what else is new?
overseas BDs seem to be phasing out except for a few key series. None even bothered to release Makeine, for example
>>285486111Unless the PSA has Japanese audio and subtitles with honorifics--I refuse to watch it.
>>285489354Jap volumes and overseas are different to begin with, american books are pricier to collect. Being forced to pay double the price for mid quality? Few are willing to do that for manga they aren't already a big fan of.
>>285486111Mean while the producers of these mangas under pay and over work everyone. So they can suck my ass.
Japanese are so fucking retarded, they will never understand that piracy is free advertisement.
>>285489354I own about 3000+ physical volumes, i'm a huge collector but I still read a lot of stuff I wouldn't even think to buy (mostly because they are shit). If they would offer me a service with no censorship and good scans with basically all the big 3 editors together I would gladly pay for it, or even being able to access most jp manga sites to buy bulk of stuff at reasonable price (i can read moonrunes), but nope, they won't let me. Therefore, I'm going to keep doing what i do and I don't feel I'm doing anything bad
>>285486111Checked the quote on twitter and even most japanese people are shitting on this retarded ad lmao.
I will buy Jap stuff when they stop censoring it.Until then, YAAAAARGH
>>285488058Anime has been getting made since the fucking 70sIf it ever ends up dying then it definitely won't be because some guy in Australia is pirating Kyou Kara Ore Wa
Half of the stuff I read I pirate but I'll buy the bd or watch streams for 95% of anime and buy via steam for 100% of visual novels. It all comes down to whether I can actually buy it.
>>285486111>watch Yuusha to Kuzu>oh cool this is kinda of like Cop Craft, I really dig this kind of modern mixed with fantasy> manga it was already licensed before the anime>they only did the first volume 6 years agoI mean I guess I could buy it and maybe they will see the anime brought back interest? Or maybe I buy it and they continue to not translate it since they haven't done so in six years? Or maybe they've lost the publishing rights since it's been six years and will never release another volume even if they wanted to.Also Cop Craft LNs never got an english release. Shame because Range Murata's art is actually worth owning physically.
>>285486111You wouldn't dowload a sushi
>>285486111The last two people are from Okinawa, right?
>>285486111What if I'm poor?
>>285486111>>285486503Imagine paying to watch an advertisement. Because anime are advertisements to buy physical manga and other physical objects.If no one watched their advertisements, then they would never sell any manga or anime figures, so fuck them.
>>285486111>thumbnail title "will manga and anime save us in 100 years?"wait? is Japan solely relying on this industry to survive? but they export good cars and household appliances, not to mention they're good at robotics which leaps them ahead in the AI racewhy put faith solely on media entertainment industry when they have an industry that will make billions for them?
>>285490101maybe because it's a sensationalized ""PSA""? I mean you really think Japan collectively said "fuck robotics and manufacturing, we are all in on shounen jump?"
>>285486111Remember King Kong? Remember Ferris Bueller?Remember WarGames and Back to the Future?Remember Tomb Raider? Remember Weird Science?Remember Battletoads and the Iron Giant?Remember Star Wars and Transformers: The Movie?Remember Ghostbusters? Remember The Goonies?Remember when neon used to be trendy?Remember the "Where's the beef?" lady from Wendy's?
>>285486111>profits>from pirated editionsoxymoronAnd reminding me of this mess isn't changing my mind either.
OK so if I buy a dvd of Ergo Proxy, how is that helping anyone? The studio is closed, and no one will see royalties because I'm buying it from a third party store.They really do not think about anything
>>285487276Fucking kill yourself.
>>285486111haha the jojo part got mestill not paying for like 95% of all slop featured in that ad thoughever
Am I retarded or is there no HxH?
The same video has been uploaded for SEAshits to notice, that says a lot about piracyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkjxrkA_w6shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhXJzDccbAAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aybL1PWdhc
>>285489581>even most japanese people are shitting on this retarded ad lmaoqrd?
>>285486111>chose Rebuilds for the Evangelion rep and not NGEFuck this, I'm gonna download 10 whole volumes now.
>>285486111wow this has totally convinced me. I will now destroy all my HDDS and purchase anime legally from streaming services
>>285486111>using Rebuild for EvangelionTHAT'S IT, I'M PIRATING FOREVERMORE
Isn't there like a thing where even if you buy physical manga outside of Japan almost nothing goes back to the author?
I want them to show me where I can buy all 120 volumes of Hajime no Ippo in America
But how else will those big corpos get works for training their AI systems that'll be used to replace japanese creators?
YOU WILL SUBSCRIBE AND CONSUME DUB CONTENTS
>>285486111No.
>>285490188I-I-I-I remember
>>285491014They do get their share. A mangaka told me (for real). How much comparatively, I don't know, didn't want to pry.
>>285486111I bought the official translations for Arigatou Isekai but the translations stopped a couple years ago and now it's over 30 chapters behind. If that's how much publishers care about the foreign market I think I'll stick to pirating.
make it easy for me to watch anime and read manga when it comes out and i won't have to resort to the high seasyou have nobody to blame but yourself japan
>>285491014That's why you buy both the Japanese and translated one
>>285490868Looking through, most are pissed off that they're crying about piracy when they're all using AI.
>>285491344>make it easy for me to watch animeI thought nearly all anime got simulcast on streaming services these days
>>285491344the issue for them is licensing and contract negotiations. you may have heard that the sentai IP has been undergoing a huge legal battle and i think dragonball also had one when toriyama died.
>>285490134but it doesn't make sense, they have the very means to be a world leader with the amount of engineering assets they have in their finger tips-they make the best cars-they re-engineered an F-16 and made their very own version of it(F-2A Viper)-they made the biggest battleship that was never contested-they make top tier appliances-THEY MADE THE PLAYSTATION!!and they made a PSA of all things about fighting piracy of anime and manga as if this is all they have and NOTHING else to offer????
>>285486111why the fuck is a muslim in the ad? is it already getting that bad in japan? why are so many forces trying to influence anime and turn it into globalslop? one of the reasons i watch anime is to escape that shit.
>>285486626based, fuck woke localizers>>285486913if publishers made good translations that honored the original work i would buy them. but there is no way in hell i'm going to give any of my money to slopflix or sloppyroll or any other mega corporation streaming service that profits by taking advantage of creators.
>>285491843japan isn't an ethnostate and people there have religious freedoms
>>285489215jews are the ones pirating everything for their AI models thougheverbeit
>>285486111Well that was a lot of noise.>>285491843Malaysians consume a lot of manga and work on a lot of anime.
>>285486111What a fucking stupid out of touch survey>Sales of legitimate versions decrease.Triple retard. If paying for a seedbox would kill crunchyroll I'd do it but sadly that's not the case.>It does not provide income to creators.Do western middlemen?>0.000001 goes to the cup ramen allowance but you have to censor :)Is it worth it?I have no problem buying shit from DLsite and importing junk but I do have a problem with faggots from California "localizing" my anime. I could be the richest faggot in the world and I would still pirate out of spite.
>>285490868https://x.com/prmag_bunka/status/2013829084716114419Who knew something like this existed?
>>285491735the F-2 was a joint project
>>285486503Haven't laughed this hard in a while
>usually buy manga in bookwalker since it's cheap>buy the new gits artbook digitally since it's a pain in the ass to ship>picrel is the qualitywell fuck you, nipsbut in all seriousness some publishers has a decent quality for digital artbooks but there are also publishers like picrel who fucking do this shit
>luffy
>>285491014Well, the Japanese government and the corpos & authors who donated material for this spot certainly don't agree, LMAO.
>>285492332>1724x874Is this native resolution of an artbook? No way
>>285486111The only reason I've put money into the Japanese economy via buying merchandise is because I got into anime and manga via piracy. This hobby would be WAY too expensive if you had to pay for everything.
>>285491843I'm more surprised by this guy. Kinda looks Indian, but maybe I'm just an ignorant retard.
>>285491735Again, retard, it is sensationalized. The point, while inert, is to make you feel bad about pirating. It was created by the Agency for Cultural Affair, and their purpose is to promote Japanese art, not their robotics or defense contracting. Nips probably have an entire other agency that promotes investment into manufacturing/technology/whatever else you think they are abandoning (they aren't).
>>285492480no i'm not sure for the full spread but the individual pages are 1218 x 1600do note the digital artbook was like priced 6k yen
>>285492332sad but should've known, jap digital stuff is always complete dogshiteven viz' digital volumes are better
>>285491172nice pic keksaved
>>285492204Some grim stuff in the replies.
>>285486111It warms my heart to see that Rukia is seen as the only heroine to the masses.
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>>285489334I actually was the same for a while until I pledged to stop blind-buying manga and LNs. Now I only buy stuff I've either already read, or I've read some parts so I know I'll (likely) enjoy the rest.
Piracy is objectively good for preservation, it's objectively good for exposure, and piracy itself arises as a problem with service but the word of mouth through piracy itself has never meaningfully carry the success of anything that wasn't already gonna be successful enough to begin with.Manga and anime cater to domestic audiences, gaijin do not affect the longevity of a manga series (though granted in the case of anime, you have moments where The Big O got a third season because of international viewers but that still doesn't necessarily mean piracy was a factor)One Piece could have never been pirated once and it'd still be going on in Japan because Japanese reception is the only deciding factor in what keeps a manga serializedIt'd be far less successful in terms of revenue as a franchise but it'd be still be successful enough to keep going on.There are multiple manga obscure in the West that are long-runners in Japan because news flash, manga never needed western salesPlease correct me if I'm wrong
>>285489251thats why you should only buy manga once the story is near the end or to be completely safe complete. unless its a short story collection that lasts a volume or two. there are too many manga with disappointing endings...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPEeaxI0OPU
>>285493222>>285489251>Buy series as it comes out, the plot goes to shit>Wait for it to finish, the copies go out of print and you're forced to buy second hand
>>285493325if the plot goes to shit, why would you want to continue buying it? do people really do this?
>>285493181>Piracy is objectively good for preservationBut we can have preservation without Piracy. Comiket for example has a committee that preserves submitted doujinshi. Of course they should get digitised too but not for piracy or AI scraping reasons.
>>285493367We're operating on the assumption it didn't go to shit, Captain Reading Comprehension
>>285488099>>285486287Stop making sense and saying nuanced things. Gaijin bad! Pirates bad! We don't need change! We just ask money! You hearu me gajin-san? MONEY MONEY MONEY!
>>285493368>But we can have preservation without Piracy.Most of those methods are just basically locking shit up in a library somewhere Johnny Q Public won't go. It doesn't just have to stored it has to be shared.
>>285493388lol okay my bad
>>285493181I always hate the "It's about preservation" argument. Oh I'm not against piracy or anything. Fuck the suits. But I just think you're being a douche if you justify it as anything beyond "I WANT SHIT AND FUCK PAYING FOR IT!" Which is itself a perfect enough excuse. You're not being altruistic if you want to "preserve" some shit LN about being reborn in another world as a pair of panties. Most of this shit? Isn't the voice of a generation or work of cultural significance. Pirate things. But do it honestly.
>>285493368>But we can have preservation without Piracy.True but piracy is still the best option for access to media that legally can't be re-released, was never released digitally, etcThere's plenty of media that are unlikely or outright can't get a re-release because of legal bsCorrect if this is misleading but the go-to story for argument on why piracy is good for media preservation is that Bram Stoker's wife hated Nosferatu and tried to destroy every copy only for the film to survive thanks to piracySure the filmmakers never saw a cent but their work survived It's not just a matter of one guy having something for himself and "keeping it safe", it's a matter of that thing being accessible to other people to ensure its long-term survivalThere's a guy who owns the physical prototype of Panel De Pon 64 in English and refuses to share it despite preservation groups making their offerIf something bad happens and that prototype withers or breaks, that's itIt's over unless a miracle can happen
>>285492555>The point, while inert, is to make you feel bad about pirating.WHAT!?they went with that rather than fixing their service which is the real issueI'd rather support independent manga creators who upload their content through Patreon that to put up with thisdo they REALLY think in their heads that Japan leads the world of entertainment industry because they exported a cartoon of a buff guy that blows up planets to bits or young girls fighting evil at night while wearing revealing school uniforms and short skirts?really?? maybe piracy isn't the real problem hereI think they just don't like that their bottom line isn't getting the growth they care so much about due to "pirates" that they see as "the problem"
how many japs even buy tankobonsI always figured most of them mostly stuck to reading from magazines (not published in the west) and shit like manga cafes (don't exist in the west) or borrowed from friends
>>285492555I don't think anyone who pirates is going to suddenly realize what they're doing is wrong. I think if you're smart enough to set up a torrent client or get into IRC or whatever and then actually look for and find the thing you want to DL, you're probably old enough to know right and wrong. Really I don't get who this kind of thing is for.
>>285493412Then ways could be figured out to share it while the original contributors can make money otherwise we're just back to straight up wanting stuff for free. I think it's a bit entitled to think everything has to be shared anyway
As always, the Japanese boomers continue to be clueless about how much soft power anime has given Japan, far more than their failed "Cool Japan" project could ever dream of. And it was only possible due to piracy.
>>285493527https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQweFurRz4gSome interesting thoughts
>>285493527How many self-published manga creators are there?
>>285493537nips on twitter are constantly posting their collections (if you follow the right accounts and have the right settings), you can even find videos on youtube where some of them talk about their collections and their favorite manga.
You should pirate because when goycattle actually started paying for streaming services corpos started making them actively worse to extract more money, shoving ads everywhere. Like Cory Doctorow says, you need to impose some limits on corpos so they don't go full bastard. Sadly, the DMCA killed most control methods, but you should both pay and pirate everything you consume. If you can't pirate it, it's not worth buying.
When has a PSA EVER worked?
the manga and anime industries would be fine without us desu. japan alone would support them, but they license a bunch of shit in many different asian countries. i dont even think america is anywhere close to france when it comes to loving manga and anime and thats just in the west. we cant compete with china or korea or taiwan
>>285486111WTF is this
>>285493702What is that font choice for that background
>>285493702Looks like I'm the only one surprised by this guy.>>285492504
>>285493684YOU WOULDNT DOWNLOAD A CAR!>>285493598Gabes (old) views on the matter will never not be funny as hell, not to mention how incredibly well they aged. Piracy will NEVER fully vanish, BUT you can try to lower it by making things less bullshit to access, which Netflix in it's early years has shown. Now days it's just as bad as it's always been because everything is spread across 20 billion services, not concentrated on 1-2 huge ones.
>>285493702Fatima Tsuyomi, a Japanese woman.
>>285493522>I always hate the "It's about preservation" argument. I get that pirates for visual or literary media can be pretentious and every time they say stuff like "the industry would die if piracy stopped" or "the artists should thank me for pirating" I just roll my eyes especially if these people were never the primary demographic to begin with but piracy IS objectively good for preservationSomething is out of print for decades, was never released digitally, and is unlikely to see a re-release?The original release has been altered and said alterations are the only things released in the market if at all?A specific installment/episode of a show or film is essentially blacklisted for a myriad of factors regardless if said factors are reasonable or not?You can argue about what's worth preserving or not but the fact of the matter is that some people care enough about it to secure it because of how easily lost something can be
>>285493740Hot
>>285493724Neil Gaiman had interesting comments on it too.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qkyt1wXNlII know LOL but he's still right.
>>285486111When I get a high 5 to low 6 figure salary I will probably paypig for BDs, volumes and merch. I go out of my way to see anime in theaters but my current part time salary is not enough for boxsets and plastic.
>>285493740Why in the fuck is Japan doing Western-style "diversity and inclusion"?
>>285487547>have a chance to make profitjust like how the retards who bought a jpg of an ape are now billionaires amirite?
>>285493702Germans are honorary Japanese.
>>285493526>There's a guy who owns the physical prototype of Panel De Pon 64 in English and refuses to share it despite preservation groups making their offerGeez that sucks. But he can do what he wants with his copy. He probably gets some sick joy knowing he's the only one that has it and he'll probably die with it in some house fire.
>>285493769His argument is that piracy is good for word of mouth and that leading to sales but that goes back to the previous post about how if you're finding success thanks to the word of mouth through piracy, odds are you never NEEDED said word of mouth through piracy to be successful to begin with.
>>285493825>Why in the fuck is Japan doing Western-style "diversity and inclusion"?Usa told them that is the cool thing to do and that all first world countries are doing it.
>>285489295not to match your autism, but Ojamajo Doremi is available on serveral japanese streaming services and the dub was just released on Toei's YouTube channel for free last summer.>b-b-but I want to w-watch it english subnot what you said, tran.
>>285493602how many users are there in Pixiv alone that can draw in that style of art?no.... wait......hold on.....scratch that................it should be"how many users are there in Pixiv that can AI GENERATE that style of art and call it their own???"you know what, why bother beating around the bush with this, I think I know now the ANSWER about this whole PSA nonsense their pulling offand they are themselves to be blamed for all this shenanigans they got themselves intothey get what the fucking deserved
>>285486564Collectors fags are not the average consumer anontachi.The average consumer reads and watch what it wants unlike collector fags who want to preserve an obscure OVA which not even the director remembers BUUUUT it shaped the modern anime landscape or whatever according to some schizo in an image board on thread with 15 replies after 12 hours.
>>285491011>>285490940>autism hivemind
Most people who pirate probably weren't going to buy your shit in the first place. Let's assume somehow, someway they find a way to completely erase piracy. The pirates will just be content to go without. The thing with piracy is that it's easy. So people will just take chances on things they might have otherwise not even bothered had they needed to pay for it or go out of the way to get it in some case. Now most of the time just results in a compete wash were you either didn't like it or care about it but there's no loss because you weren't a customer. YOU WEREN'T GOING TO BUY IT TO START WITH. But sometimes, I bet a lot of people found stuff they really liked. And stuff they turned around and paid for.
>>285493522Fuck off with your le based take. You want to just download stuff? Suit yourself. But media preservation needs to be brought up every fucking time piracy comes up. The fact that most pirates don't really believe in that argument is irrelevant, it still ends up being the best method of preservation, far better than sitting in some archives only to be retroactively censored by "responsible" parties. Fuck you for even suggesting it's not worth bringing up you fucking kike.
>>285486111No, I feel no obligation to pay for shit, if I like an anime I will buy merchandise of it, paying to watch anime or any media is for cucks and subhumans with less than 80iq
>>285493855The best argument for piracy which he put forth is that foreign language speakers end up translating your works for a wider audience which of course could lead to official publishers in that country.But now we have the issue of 'woke' localizations at bay. Honestly we should all just learn Japanese by now and support them directly. But then there's the credit card mafia problem and so on. I fucking love piracy
>>285494000put a bullet through your skull and do us all a favor then
>>285493938If the amount of people who did pay is overturn by the ones who did not from the group of people who likes what they found then is where the corpo can say "Piracy is hurting the sales".
>>285486804>the steam of anime and manga That sounds terrible to me to be honest
>>285486111>profitaren't people basically translating manga for free, like as a hobby?
>>285493995>buying merchOnly tourists buy merch but not anime
>>285494000>that foreign language speakers end up translating your works for a wider audience which of course could lead to official publishers in that country.Yeah sure (word of mouth piracy objectively benefitted Earthbound and how its securely re-released in non-Japanese markets including the official English release of Mother 1) but foreigner money is still worthless (specifically in regards for a series to continue) if the work was specifically for a domestic audience to begin with.A crap ton of gaijin buying an officially licensed translation of a short-lived manga that bombed in Japan isn't gonna convince the original publisher to put it back on circulation just for the gaijin who wanted to see it continue.
>>285494036But it's bullshit because without piracy they wouldn't have been interested in the first place. Remove the piracy remove the interest. And even people who like stuff don't always buy it. Do you buy games you rent? What if you read a book at the library?
>>285486111I'm still pirating fn
>>285494064You haven't seen scanlators gatekeep releases behind timed paywalls then get super butthurt when another scanlator releases their version for free?
>>285486111no physical = no buy, easy as
>>285493537Well you can buy everything digitally now so I'm sure a lot of them buy chapters/tanks online.
>>285486111>ultimate showdown of ultimate destiny
>>285494070You know that bds are also merch right retarded newfag?
who cares, still gonna pirate everything fron animebytes and nyaamanga is something I actually want to pay for since I can actually read jp now but they make actually buying official stuff hard as hell if you live abroad. Only thing keeping me from just pirating everything I read is the fact that pirating RAWs is just as much of a hassle as buying
>>285494077The library pays for the use and renting of that book to the publisher anon.Interest means shit if those potential consumers just stay on the potential phase and do not move forward.
Don't care, EU paper said piracy is good simple as.
>Manga is years into it's run and suddenly gets licensed.>We have ceased translating, please supporting the official release which won't catch up to for at least five fucking years. Yeah, fuck you.
Gabe is sitting on his billion dollar fleet today because he figured out that piracy is a service problem. Why can't some jap do the same?
>>285494131BD is home release and not listed as merch on financial reports negro.Moreover, Oricon does not count gaijin sales to their charts and some publishers like Kadokawa neither count gaijin sales on their reports.Thats why Crunchyroll numbers exist for them.
>>285494160>EU PaperYou mean the one that pirates like to cite as support but it fails in several key areas to be worth a damn?
>>285494170Hollywood or the fucking Music industry couldn't either, this is far from a Jap only problem.>B-b-b-but spotify and apple musicLet's ask Lars Ulrich what he thinks about those two, especially spotify which gives you FUCK ALL for money.
>>285494170They do have it figured out. Their answer is "fuck you."
>>285492204Heartwarming to see that nips are shitting on this PSA too and calling out their hypocrisy for pushing AI while crying about piracy.
>>285488099GabeN is right once again! Piracy is service problem, not like pirate sites put paywall on it anyways
>>285494149The real money is in merchandise. A Viz Media subscription is a drop in the bucket compared to buying video games or figures. You use the pirated manga to get them interested so they buy the things with bigger returns that they can't get.
>>285494296>DRM exists to prevent piracy but people pirate because of DRM
>>285494183Bds are listed as media sales because of business models, bds are still merchandise.
>>285494306Steaming is a whole other issue. Say you want to watch a show on netflix so get a sub. But how much of that sub is going to what you want to support. I know they can track views and shit but it doesn't really convey to the customer.
>>285494170Niggas will read a manga about oranges and compare it to every anime about apples they ever did seen
>>285494233What stops more people from just downloading songs off youtube as mp3s and listening to them that way?
>>285486111I want to sup[port and buy physical stuff but everywhere I look I cannot find blurays of the shows I want. Even recent ones
>>285487266>but is a requirement for any serious fan hereIf you were a serious fan, you'd be buying shit in Japanese and learning nip. Fucking amateur
>>285494306>Everything has videogames and merchMeanwhile, checking the tag of ぼちかの on xitter and there are JOP dreaming one day it will get merch despite it has been more than 2 years on the market.Believing eveeything has merch or a videogame is shonentard and tourist attitude.Go back to discord retard.
>>285489321Once again, it's corporate suits who are retarded. The Japanese in the comments are shitting on the PSA for crying about piracy while the government and industry tries to promote generative AI like you mentioned.
>>285489309>japs read it for freeWeekly magazines at the conbini maybe but all manga is shrink wrapped and maybe has a 12p booklet as a sample
>>285494464>in the commentsinb4 "le phoneposter boogeyman"
>>285494512I think he's talking about Twitter comments.
>>285494512Wrong comments >>285492204>le phoneposter boogeymanCorrect. Now kill yourself, phoneposter.
>>285494530lol 4chan, now the website for discussing twitter comments
actually can someone teach me how to buy manga like japanese people can? I want physical stuff but digital stuff is fine toodoesn't need to be translated at all
>>285494594bookwalker, honto, and amazon japan are all top picks for digital
>>285494464They're bitching about AI and the invoice system for artists, but are any of them saying that piracy is beneficial?
>>285494562Yes, for official industry-related posts. Not for literally who twitter posts.
>>285494525>>285494530All the JOP rage is from a comment some official made in favor of generative AI.So it comes as hypocrital for them to attack piracy when they look with good eyes generative AI which is at the same level of piracy.
>>285494641And unlike piracy, "profits do not go back to the author" applies to generative AI.
>>285494594Cmoa, and the nip publisher site usually has some chapters for free as well
>>285486626my favorite gripe is that they don't print the original serialization color pages in digital tanks because the jap print industry is still profitable enough that they will cripple digital tanks just so print ones don't look bad
>>285494613>>285494693thanksI can use the jp sites no problem right? like I wont run into trouble using my foreign card and user info using jp site and not global sites?do the files themselves have DRM?
>he actually buys physical mangawhy? they ALWAYS fuck up the two page spreads
>>285494744I swear gutter loss is just a constant problem regardless of collected format type
>>285494690Profits are made from authorized copies, not from illegal ones.>But I knew it from an illegal copyAn illegal copy which did not bring revenue to the author as an standalone piece of consumption because it was not an authorized one, that is not going to change.
>>285494744 I bought a Junji Iito story collection, and yes, they messed up several double-page spreads.
>>285494801In the vast majority of cases, there are no profits from piracy.
>>285493869This as was aimed at westerners, also >4kids Doremi That's fucking gross anon
>>285494831>There is no money from illegal outlets Holy smokes sherlock!
>>285494819>Junji Iito story collectionread a few of his works, his more popular ones, was thinking of reading more of his stuff but hes not very scary
>>285494733NTA but I’ve had issues. I was trying to buy a volume of a series called Suika, by Tsubana. Rakuten JP didn’t let me make an account. Honto didn’t let me enter in the name on my credit card. Wasn’t listed on Kobo or any other western site (to be fair we are talking about a very obscure series). I didn’t try Amazon jp - I imagine it would let me purchase but I’ve heard it does indeed have pretty tight DRM, worse than other sites. But I guess I haven’t tried getting around it.
>Want to buy a manga>It has a severe printing error where a page gets repeated at the expense of another.
>>285494972They couldn't find a better place for the parental advisory warning? Lame
>>285495005No one of the story pages got printed over another.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT7ijnOHEDsI like this one better
>>285494383Spotify's actual service that most people pay for is not the music but their recommendation algorithm.
If you're not from Japan then piracy actively improves the anime industry by keeping out filthy gaijin money. Remember to do your part.
>>285487725Chio is a certified buycuck.
>buy physical>company can't even print books in the correct sizeAlso those companies that can't keep the spine design consistent
>>285489474It's not piracy when Gill does it. It already belongs to him.
>>285494733You'll need a VPN for certain genres but that's about it
>>285494733>>285494932They have drm but it's pretty easy to get around if you know the process.You can't make an account on rakuten jp you need to do it through their global log in
I thought manga in Japan is mainly consumed in magazines, not volumes? Would you buy weekly/monthly physical magazines to follow your favorite manga?
>>285492204MTL gives me a lot of comments talking about the 'invoice system', what's that about?
>>285486111>jojo jojo jojo jojothey know their reddit audience
>>285496358Something about taxes probably.
>>285486111>p-purizu gaijin-san, don't pirating manga, here super manga rap for you, you rike brack peopre music yes
Don't forget that Piracy is always because of bad service per what Gaben said about Steam
>>285493522The Pastel Memories BD cuts like half the episodes, including the Gochiusa ripoff episode (which is the only reason to watch that show). If I buy the BD, then I get an inferior product. This is where I thank my lucky stars that I can find the TV release for free on Nyaa.
I wonder how long before the boomers die and the rules that Japan is built upon die with it once people grow backbones and wake up
>>285486111>Panel of Luffy crying because he can't believe the government tried to use him in anti-piracy propaganda
>>285496644the old fart boomers will just be replaced by old fart gen x-ers with all the same policies and attitudes unless there is a MASSIVE orchestrated push to get people under 40 into political careers in such quantities that they outnumber everyone else and the establishment can't gatekeep such that only those that share their believes and perspectives get to get ahead
>>285491843japan worships anything westernthey'll eventually adopt western globohomo wokism ideologythis is not surprising, if you actually used your brain
>>285493086The masses are retards.She's barely important post SS.
Curious, not a character from Takeuchi, Togashi, Mashima or Akamatsu who was part of the goverment until the last change. And no pokemon.
>>285496401jojo has multiple protagonists you retardthat's it was mentioned multiple times
>>2854970571. it will take hours to include every manga in existence2. manga you mentioned weren't considered a hit or good3. one piece opposes government, yet still included, so shut your mouth
>>285497057Imagine how much royalties they had to pay to use the licenses that did make it in. An evil and immoral pirate like you who never pays for anime and manga wouldn't understand.
>>285486111I watch some shounenshit on netflix. That means I'm safe to torrent other animes since I'm already financially supporting the industry.
>>285486111If I was even able to pay for some of this stuff I would
>>285497220government need not payall japanese manga are owned by japanese government
>>285487627>>285491843>>285496986um you ok schizo? You lost btw
>>285493860they're backing away from that currently though
>>285486287Or a company gets the license, sits on it, shits out a translation years after it was released in Japan, or abandons it. Or they only make it available in the US, because US is the only country on earth who read manga
>>285487192"Localization" is newspeak for censorship.
>>285486111Sticky Please?
>>285487192fuck off poojeet
>>285486111Based One Piece!! Trans rights are human rights!
>>285491439Do Crunchyroll or Netflix do dubs? They didn't when I used them.
>>285486111All the Japanese replies on xitter are complaining the real issue is some consumption tax and they seem quite mad.
>>285486111>antipiracy ads that only annoy legitimate viewers and pirates will never actually have to watchaww yeah.
IP law is a free speech and property rights violation. Digital files are just data on a storage medium. If you ban people form sharing the data, you are infringing on people's right to freely communicate for the sake of some "author's"(Comapny's) profits. If you ban people from storing the data, you are infringing on their property right to use the storage device they own for the sake of some "author's" profits. People defend IP law because it protects an "author's" ideas, but ideas are not real property. They are not scarce. They cannot be held, they cannot be moved, they can only be copied through observation. Treating ideas and concepts like physical objects is obviously nonsense. Nothing is protected by these laws, they only infringe on other's people's ability to observe and express.Make no mistake, IP law was born out of a desire to censor "dangerous" ideas way back when the printing press was first invented. People will try to confuse you by saying that computers make the reality fundamentally different. They do not. The enlightenment only happened once people violated these laws and used the printing press anyways, and we must do the same.
>cracking down on anime and manga piracy just as webcomic manhwa and literal chinese cartoons are taking off, and the west now has entire generations of weebs who disregard the "cartoons are only for kids" boomer mindvirus primed to overcome the capeshit censorship curse with indie webtoonsThen again, nobody ever accused corporate Japan of making wise decisions.
>>285486111do I always have to buy a bluray to watch an anime? shan't ever use shittyroll. I already give money to the creators via merch
>do notto piratto pooreezu, gaijin-sanlollmao>>285486555>Piracy is literally the only reason anime and manga is big todayThisPirates are those who brought their stuff to west in the first place
Committing seppuku again I see, o great Nippon?
>>285497568>implying they see any many from merchyou literally gotta transfer money directly to their account if you want to support creators without their employers taking all of it for themselves. the creators get salaries, their employers get the royalties
>>285486111JoJo
>>285497660When the first time?
>>285486111>2. Which of the following problems related to pirated websites or pirated content do you already know?>Accessing such sites may put devices at risk (viruses or malware).>Accessing such sites can become a source of income for criminals.>Users may be redirected to dangerous sites such as illegal online casinos.lmao it's more likely with legit sites
>>28549665585% of what Luffy does is help reinstall failed government leaders, and he does it for free
>>285497220>No Ranma>No Akko CHan>No Rayearth>No Sally>No Mazinger>No Honeybee Hutch>No Demetan>No Heidi>No Osomatsu>No Remi>No Getter Robo>No Maccross>No Speed Racer>No CANDY CANDY>No Cutie Honey>No Mugen Shinshi>No Super Sentai Goranger (was also a Manga)>No GATCHAMAN>No Shaman King>No Rose of Versailles>No Creamy Mami>No ASARI CHAN (SHE HAS 100 VOLUMES)>No Time Bokan>No CYBORG 00FUCKING9>NO CAPTAIN HARLOCK>NO YAMATO>NO POKEMON>NO DIGIMON>NO TETSUJIN 28>NO ASHITA NO JOE>NO SAILOR FUCKING MOON!?>NO FUCKING SAINT SEIYA!!!>NO FUCKING SAINT SEIYA!!!>NO FUCKING SAINT SEIYA!!!>NO FUCKING SAINT SEIYA!!!
>>285486111If it wasn't for pirated anime and manga I would have never:>bought 90% of the physical manga I own>bought videogames based on anime and manga>acquired DVDs of my favorite series to rewatch>went to the cinema to see new and old anime movies whenever they releaseEvery fucking western anime fan got exposed to most of these media through internet piracy, and if anime is a global phenomenon at all now it's mostly because of this. 26 years ago I had to go to a comic book shop in my home town and buy like 2% of what I could find on the internet. I got so many of my friends into Naruto and Bleach by just showing them torrented episodes back in the days, and many of them ended up buying physical copies. It's fucking deranged to see these guys push the narrative that piracy damages anime when the whole reason why anime is now a global phenomenon and Demon Slayer made millions of dollars is because of how diffused piracy is and was. >muh manga will go extinct in 100 years!fucking pay the mangakas and animators MORE you terminal idiots. Where the fuck are all the money from JJK and KNY going? How are the animators not doing well economically after the success of these series?
>>285486111I'm upset they put my guys light, kurono, and ichigo next to KEKren.Sure the sakura-baki-luffy-naruto-keroro could be better but sakura is ledgendary and keroro's comedy and ayy lmaos fit with naruto/luffy.
>>285497719if a character is not in the video is because the author supports piracy, trust me on this one
>>285497411POST EM!
>>285497361These are the faces of new Japan. What's wrong? Get on with the times.
>>285486503Yes and i don't care.
>>285497773I'm not posting a xitter screen shot but here are some of the Google translated replies to https://x.com/prmag_bunka/status/2013829084716114419> First, please abolish the invoice system. Manga artists, animators, illustrators, and writers, who are individual business owners or small-scale producers, are successively laying down their pens.>It's not you guys. No matter how hard the citizens try, if taxes keep getting sucked out of us like crazy and no money comes in, it’s all meaningless. Just give us the damn money already.>If you're throwing money at stupid videos, then stop crushing creators with the invoice system already.>Then just abolish the invoice system already. Don’t fuck with me, you dumbass octopus.>Crushing the creators of the future #InvoiceSystemThe representative of the evil system that forces pointless work on Japanese companies!Abolish it immediately>You're the one who's going to save the future of manga and animeAnd yet you're the ones trying to destroy it It's exasperating, honestly--- ¯\( ˘–˘ )/¯So basically they aren't happy with this organization
>>285497891I fucked up the formatting because I'm lazy but he's one reposting the video with 40k likes saying >They're not gonna abolish the invoice system, they're not gonna regulate generative AI and just let it run wild, and they don't give a damn about protecting culture—they just wanna freeloadingly rake in profits. They just wanna skim off the top with Cool Japan. They ain't thinking about culture or the arts at all. They think creators just sprout up outta nowhere like weeds in a field. This video's kinda giving me the chills too.
>>285497891>>285497908Another repost with 56k likes said>Right now, animators are suffering in poverty. Please don’t abandon them and then go on talking about a hundred years from now.Yeah the video did not go well over in Japan if that hasn't been made clear already.
>>285493368Anything published through a publisher has been archived by the National Diet Library just like Comiket doujinshi
>>285486804Good idea. I'd totally buy it
>>285497891>Invoice SystemWhats the Invoice system in context? or is it a Translation quirk
Bets on some DEI jeet from BRICS being secretly involved with this thing?
>>285486287>Not available in your region>Not available in your region>Not available in your region>Not available in your region>Not available in your region>Not available in your region
>>285486111>Will manga and anime save us in 100 years?No, and if that's what you're depending on to save you then your country is completely fucked.
>>285498027It's not a translation quirk but referring to the "Qualified Invoice System" which is some tax thing but due to my limited understanding of taxes all I know is that it seemingly hurts smaller creators.
