Homura is sleeping peacefully. What will you say to her when she wakes up?
>>285598434Tell her to quickly kill herself
>>285598434Can she use magic to make the new movie not be delayed again?
>>285598434Homu Homu no... PISTOL!!
>>285598628Not even time magic can make that happen...
>>285598434Hello I used you as a body pillow while you were sleeping and also semen came out of my penis a couple times.
>>285598434I love you
>>285598434>quietly approach>get close to her face>turn on a red lens flashlight and blast her eyes with it>"wake the fuck up homura you have fireguard"
>>285598434Sneed
>>285598434>Homura is sleeping peacefully. What will you say to her when she wakes up?Give a man a horse, and he'll eat in a day.Teach a man to horse and make him drinks water.
The Sayaka thread was comfy.
Would she wake up if I had sex with her?
>>285598434Wake up, honey. We have to get the kids ready for school.
they should just announce the date when the film is actually ready instead of this corporate fail bullshit
>>285601664And even then her trying to give Homura a taste of her own medicine by being more knowledgable about the situation comes back to bite her. Not that I really think the conclusion was avoidable anyways but giving a more convincing parlay to Homura wouldn't have hurt.
>>285602058Businesses are always like this. They need you to tell them when you're expected to finish something even if you have no realistic way of determining it with any accuracy. And then they get mad when you miss it, though in this case it's something that affects people who want to watch the movie too. Shaft seems particularly bad at hitting target dates (though typically in the past they've just released something unfinished, even if it's just the OP or something) but one of the higher ups was probably pushing people for dates.
>>285598434>Rise and shine, Miss Akemi. Rise and shine. Not that I... wish to imply you have been sleeping on the job. No one is more deserving of a rest, and all the effort in the world would have gone to waste until... well, let's just say your hour has come again.>The right woman in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world. So, wake up, Miss Akemi. Wake up and smell the ashes.
>>285602116it would be bearable if any of them actually learned from this but they never ever ever do
>>285602085Hmmm I don't know, a situation like Homura's doesn't really have a lot of precedent so maybe Sayaka was worried that if she told Homura straight up who the witch was she wouldn't believe her and prolong the whole ordeal unnecessarily. It doesn't help that Sayaka is also just inherently untrustworthy in the same way Homura was in the main show due to her impossible knowledge. I've said it before and it may be hopium but I really, really would like to see Sayaka being proactive in fixing things in the new movie. She's come the farthest in terms of personal narrative development. I don't care if she jobs and loses fights but I want her to keep moving forward into a happier outcome, or an outcome she can choose for herself.
>>285598434>So, this is Miss Akemi, at last. I wish I could say this was a pleasant surprise, but it's neither a surprise nor, as you would surely agree, very pleasant. Well, I am nothing if not pragmatic.>Tell me, Miss Akemi, if you can: you have destroyed so much. What is it, exactly, that you have created? Can you name even one thing? I thought not. >I have laid the foundation for magical girls' salvation, and not as we have narrowly defined ourselves, but as something greater than we could ever imagine. Something we can only now begin to glimpse. >Look, Homura. Look at what you are throwing away. Is it worth it?
>>285602209She doesn't have to tell Homura that she's the witch if that's her concern. The judicious thing would be to pin the blame on Kyubey (Homura was too laser focused on the witch to remember the true enemy) by giving just enough of the truth to appear credible. I.e. she was taken away by the Law of Cycles and in so doing gained knowledge of all her timelines, and that Madoka allowed herself to get captured by the barrier in order to save the meguca that Kyubey trapped as bait. I think the end result is ultimately what we got regardless, and Sayaka isn't that much of a smooth talker so I won't hold it against her that much. But Sayaka did get her happier outcome, she no longer has to regret leaving Kyoko behind.
>>285602405>But Sayaka did get her happier outcome, she no longer has to regret leaving Kyoko behind.Yeah that would have been true if Homura had let Madoka take her and they all said there final goodbyes in the theoretical safe ending that Rebellion could have had. But now were in the Kaiten realm where Sayaka has memories of divinity that are still rattling around and a face she has to bandage up to keep in from melting off, so maybe a little bit more of golden end is in order. And I don't mean in a personal sense like getting the boy back or something stupid, but I'd like to see her actually fulfill the ideal she had of being a magical girl that stood for justice, though now with a clearer picture of what justice truly is. In fact if we're going by the earlier conversation about ideals, that would be the narrative thread I'd like for all the girls, in a world where they've learned from their failures, they can rediscover the idealism that brought them to where they are now into somewhere new. What that might look like would have to be up to the people making the next film though.
>>285602578I'm just going to ignore any content the new movie has put forth in trailers without context until the damn thing actually comes out. As far as I'm concerned, she's just hanging out doing non-meguca things until the boat gets rocked.
>>285598434Nothing
>>285598434bump
>>285598434I’m afraid it’s been… 9 years
>Missed out on last threads Mami discussion
>>285601110>>285543206>>285543052Hitomi exists to show that simply not becoming a meguca is not an option. She, like Junko, exists to be a failure. She is the most traditional feminine character in japanese culture. She does everything right. Just as Junko did everything right in a leans in girlboss perspective. they both are utterly dismantled by this world. This creates the paradox madoka must navigate because without it the moral opposition to becoming a magical girl would be too strong for anyone to overcome. There's a reason magia Reco, despite being a heap of trash, Opens madoka's meguca transformation with a line like "Even though its probably bad to be a magical girl, I'll continue". Without Hitomi's failure in being witch food and later in rebellion a hapless nightmare, it would become obvious that the only real proper fate for magical girls as well as witches would be genocide. Every single day a magical girl exists can be another day they need to eat humans (effectively) to survive. Every single grief seed is either another magical girl or another equivalent weight in potential humans. It's an abhorrent and disgusting system that isn't to be admired and yet Madoka admires it in a way that is obviously central to her character. With death lurking whether madoka contracts or not, the weight and balance of the emotions and morality of the system tips back towards the center and it becomes her challenge to navigate the system and upend it.It honestly is one of the biggest reasons I did not like Madoka rebellions ending. it felt utterly at odds with Madoka's character arc to give lip service to rules and order.
>>285598434Bitch you missed the Superbowl, we were gonna watch it together
>>285601664Personally I like that every single character has a clear lie they have to overcome in the stages of grief and that makes sayaka, who is anger, someone who has to reject her natural animonisty, both for herself, and others even her opponents, in order to topple them. her bodying homura in because she respected her wasn't an accident in the witch world, but homura instantly toppled her the moment she let her anger spike at what she had done. Mami wasn't in denial about bebe, but she was in denial about homura, sayaka, and madoka, and thus looses the fight with homura against sayakas sudden ambush. It extends to fanfiction as well, the best Sayaka fics and Mami fics have their successes come from these plot points whether the author realizes it or not, because the continuation of each characters character arc in a positive or negative way showcases and conforms to their initial story. I think that also explains why Madoka herself gets so little love and attention from the fan base. It's a lot easier to write your story around a protagonist who is in denial, or is filled with rage, or is too depressed and wounded by hedgehogs dichotemy. It's a lot harder to write a character who's primary characteristic of being accepting nice and feminine, needs to give way to rejection in order to succeed. Madoka has the ultimate hat trick of rejecting despair outright, maintaining her hope in the process. but that takes a lot of plot engineering and thinking and introspection. It involved a lot of external influences and made her actions very cerebral and understated.
All Madoka fics are ass made by tumblrtards projecting their queer sexual identities on the characters
>>285600783Ironically though I think Mami had the biggest impact rather than homura and kyouko coming off as selfish. Mami isn't just obscuring her own wish because it makes her look better. She's genuinely living with the pain and guilt of being too selfish to think of them every single day of her life. She wanted Sayaka to be more selfless because she was externalizing and trying to prepare Sayaka for those possibilities at the same time. But because their situations are so drastically different Mami's help can't apply to sayaka in any meaningful way. It's possible even that Mami's selfish wish is even what allowed her to survive as long as she had, and that sharing her miracle could have been a mistake that would have ended in despair even sooner.
Tell her that she's a gross dyke who will never be as pretty as Mami.
>>285606087So just like fanfiction of every single other story
>>285606098Left is Kyouko taking my cock.
>>285606087Well yeah, it's fanfiction. Wtf did you expect?
I'd tell her she did nothing wrong
I just want to say I love Punished Sayaka's design so much and I hope she gets a good portion of screentime in the new movie.
Sayaka and the non-red eyed Homura being forced to work together would be fun
>>285606103>>285606177It’s sad because Madoka is genuinely interesting character wise and world building wise but the fans only make content about noncanon shipping shit instead of the actual franchise (at least in the west, it’s probably at least slightly better in Japan)
Hopefully we still get mami teaming with Sayaka and using her swords
>>285598434Q2: Say something to transformed Homura-chan!A: No matter what form you take, Homura-chan is Homura-chan. Falling in love with someone is wonderful, so don't call yourself the devil. I love you. (I think that's what Madoka says...!!!)— Aoi Yuki (Madoka)
>>285598434Madoka will never love you
>>285606530>>285606547Madoka loves everyone >but muh romance Homura doesn’t love Madoka romantically either
>>285606547It seems she disagrees lol>>285606530
>>285606562Homura does not love madoka romantically.Homura loves Madoka with the divine love agape that is the love of God.Homura is „the devil“ because the true form of love is hated by the world.And yet she has overcome the world through love.To say that this is merely romantic love is blasphemy because it equates the sacred and divine with that which is mundane.
>>285606620>Homura loves Madoka with the divine love agape that is the love of God.I think her behavior also shows that it’s pretty close to a mother’s love for her children, as well. A mother will sacrifice everything to keep her children in safety and happiness, out of love, but obviously not out of personal desire. In fact, the mother straight up expects her children to leave her when they’re ready to face the world by themselves without being a danger for themselves. And Homura is trying her best to have that happen to Madoka, but Madoka refuses to grow up because her sacrificial tendencies are just too strong.
>>285605506it must be nice being a mami and sayaka fag. none of you have to deal with a schizo replying to themself and loudly trying to talk over anyone else having a conversation.
>>285606705I am still writing my blog post about Madoka Magica where I will explain it all in writing about just HOW MUCH Homura did nothing wrong.At the moment I have around 17000 words but more need to be written.I wanted to release it before the movie comes out and now that it is delayed again I have a realistic chance to make it.But yes, everything you said is correct.Almost no one understands Madoka Magica correctly.Basically no one.
Thread died before I woke up but thanks for the discussion anons, was interesting to read and hear your thoughts.>>285596755>Can't bear to die alone so she pretends to be cute and cool and confident to lure in gullible impressionable girls to used up like she isOne of the worst things I've realized about the world is how common this is, across industry, culture, etc.. I see it everywhere now and I hate it.
>>285606777>Almost no one understands Madoka Magica correctly. Basically no one.In the west at least this is very true, especially since covid.
>>285606809fair, but with the messaging of hitomi it's clearly not enough to simply avoid becoming used up and unstained if it only results in ignorance. We see that such ignorance is not bliss, in fact that misery almost kills what should have been the most ideal woman. The hero who saved her? the same impressionable girl mami had been grooming as you put it. It's really possible hitomi could have died before madoka even met mami if it were not for madoka's potential becoming kyuubeis sole focus due to the lucrative potential of her harvest. At that point you can accept homura's philosophy and protect the cherished from the misery, or you can accept madoka's and plunge your arm into the box of razors.
>>285606772Mamifags and Sayakafags are lucky that they don't currently have any active schizos between them.
Ultimately she did nothing wrong and the only people who disagree are genuinely evil or fucking stupid
Homura is cute which means she did nothing wrong
>>285606898There is still hope that Kaiten will give the others the same thing that drives schizos away from Sayaka.
>>285606941giwtwm
>>285606949Blue hair?? Being cucked by Hitomi??
>>285606100Based and true.
I feel sorry for Mami's back
Pumping Devil Homura and dumping her when she demands that you marry her.
>>285607397A named male love interest
>>285607713Well it can't be that since Homura already has Tatsuya. So clearly having a male love interest isn't what makes schizos not care about Sayaka.
How would each meguca react to getting rejected and or broken up with?
>>285607782It’s only in spinoff thoFor Sayaka it’s in the main series and the movie doubles down on it
>>285598434Why was she so obsessed with Madoka again? I forgot what the reason was.
>>285607792Well it's still canon so it clearly doesn't work. Something else about Sayaka must be schizo repellent
>>285605909The best part about Hitomi is that she's voiced by Shintani Ryouko, who also played Nami Hitou in SZS. Her character trait and gag was that she was completely ordinary and normal.
>>285607783To say Homura would take it badly would be an understatement.
>>285607808Better fake your death, then.
>>285607799Madoka was probably the first person to give a shit about her. Also after a certain point, if she decided to stop caring she would've died from grief.
>>285607814Lol good luck. I don't think there's any running from her.
>>285607835What happens if she finds you?
>>285607851Rape
>>285607855Homura raping you sounds scary.
>>285607851Basement slave.
>>285607868Not if I teleport away.
Sayaka raped me after I told her that she's my best friend and like one of the boys. What did I do wrong?
>>285607890Megucas aren't known for being mentally stable.
>>285607908Rape is still a weird punishment for calling her my bro.
>>285607915Is there no Karen x Sayak crossovers?
Imagine dating Madoka and forcing her to ask Homura if she would be up for a threesome
Imagine getting Kyouko to fall madly in love with you to the point of dependence and acting dense about it all the time and hanging around other girls.
>>285607835>>285607855>>285607868After you fake your death, you change your name into something edgy and vaguely cultured and you wear a cool mask all the time.
>>285607982Would never happen to me because why the fuck would I hang out with other girls when I have the option of Kyouko
>>285608009Also, say edgy nonsense like you came back after being murdered once.
>>285608009I'd do this to Sayaka.
I told Madoka that the final battle's gonna be an easy one for me and she cried and raped me, accusing me of being clueless.
Which meguca would you pump and dump?
>>285608327Sayaka.
>>285608327Homura because she's spent the entire time trying to "fix" whatever she thought she did wrong so it's free sex repeats.
>>285608327Madoka since I doubt there's anything she'd do about it.
>>285608327Kyouko since she'd probably seethe.
>>285608327Kirika since her crazy devotion would make it all the more funny.
>>285608327Mami since by the looks of it no one else will
>>285608679Will what
>>285598434I'd tell her that she's been in a coma for 10 years and that I'm Madoka's husband and Madoka says she's sorry she couldn't make it today because she was busy looking after our many children but she sends her regards.
The megucas are so sexyHottest magical girl designs in any franchise by far
>>285605909MagiReco is the best. Best thing to happen to Madoka.
Mami is a great character but a horrible person. Whereas Sayaka genuinely cares very much about justice and fairness (so much so that she's quick to judge people based on nothing but her assumptions), Mami mostly cares about giving everyone the impression that she cares about justice and fairness. Sure, she helps people in need, especially when it lets her look cool in front of someone, but when no one she wants to look cool in front of is present, she just goes around shitting on people for being bullied.
>>285608839Pump and dump her.
>>285609155I don’t think she wants someone to do that…
>>285609165This isn't about what she wants
>>285609188It should be because megucas deserve love and happiness
I want to make Mami happy and never leave her alone anymore.
>>285609142she's so fucking smug in that scene holy shit>>285609370I want to make Mami happy and never leave her alone anymore so that she leaves everyone else alone.
>>285598434Wake the fuck up meguca. We have QB to burn.
>>285610151>she's so fucking smug in that scene holy shitI think that might be the reason I like her the least, especially after my first rewatch.She's so in the dark and yet acts so smug it's infuriating and Homura can't even tell her>bitch, you are going to get the souls of those girls ripped out, stuff in gems and then IF they are lucky they'll just die before becoming the next generation of witches
>>285612403That's what's great about her. Imagine telling some boomers parent they doomed their country and offspring by winning wwii. She perfectly encapsulates denial. Her motives and behaviors preclude any possibility of a conversation. Without her you would question why the system continues without forced perpetuation. The magical girls continue it by clinging to ignorance with violence. This is also compatible to real life.
>>285609142Sayakas takes about justice don't convince me she isn't just larping:You use grief seeds? How dare you!Homeless people stealing apples?!HItomi is mean, why did I save her?Madoka you're stronger than me. Why did you let me take your job you coward?
>>285613610>you've got your own reason for saving me?>well fuck you, I'm off to self destruct, no the feelings of my friend and family don't matter
>>285613610>You use grief seeds? How dare you!Average Sayiku hater's literacy.
Madoka is for sincerity chads that take kibou-maxxing seriously. Any other character is for gooners and edgelords. I said what I said.
>>285613599Cute dykes
What other Magical Girl series do you Anons like?
>>285615247Cardcaptor Sakura, Nanoha, Mahoako (followed the manga before the anime), Sailor Moon (haven't watched all of it though), Symphogear (is it magical girl?), also Six Heart Princess (when is it ever going to be finished?). I want to expand my mahou shoujo knowledge more tho.Oh btw I fucking hated yuki yuuna, worst piece of shit in all of mahou shoujo
>>285598434WAKE ME UP INSIDE(Can't wake up)
>>285615247https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg8Jahz6RM4No idea I have watched the classics like SM and CCS but that's when I was a kid
>>285615247MahoAko and Doremi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91hXwQqYM44Rebellion is (at last) coming to exedra
>>285615441>yuki yuunaFunny you mention it because I'm going through that anime right now. It's definitely a lot more slice of life than Madoka ever was. I'm only 3 episodes in but since it's already so shot I'll probably finish it even though the last 2 episodes haven't been very interesting.Maybe it's because I haven't seen much Mahou Shoujo outside of Madoka, but I keep comparing it to Madoka and thinking Madoka did what it's doing better. I'll stick with it tho, I'm sure it will eventually get better as the series goes on
consider a 192cm sayaka
>>285616000YuYuYu is probably the show that struggles the most with occupying similar space as MadoMagi. It's not a bad show but it sometimes feels like it sometimes forces itself to do something different than the most natural development just because the natural one is what Madoka already did.
>>285616528>Homura NavidadHHHHHNNNNNNNGGGGGGHHHH
>>285598434I had sex and made love to Madoka
>>285598434KINOU HASHAGISUME DAME NA ZAN!RESCUE KAISHIM!
>>285598434If Homu's gay but Madoka isn't then is the series really yuri?
>>285617594It's Yuri Bait.
I don't think any meguca ever spammed a thread in order to get attention from other women, so I'm not sure on which basis you're claiming any of them is gay. Sounds like projection to me desu
>>285615441Absolutely filtered
>>285616528Man I've even started playing Exedra when I don't even like gacha and I still have no idea who 90% of these freaks are. I saw one magical girl called Yu, the weird unicorn thing and it kind of made me realize that there's this whole entire Star Wars glub shitto type expanded universe that spawned from a single season 12 episode show. The fact that something like that can even go so far as to support a bi monthly magazine focused entirely on one franchise in Japan blows my mind.
>>285617594Madokas gayer than homura
>>28561967690% of the glup shittos are just from the previous meguca gacha game.
>>285620381>a dog flies better than a cat
>>285617594>Still posting this shit 17 hours laterYou lost.
>>285621045>17 hoursoh you sweet summer child
>>285616871I almost pulled up the vid of that ad... but I must resist until next January.
The best thing to say to Homura is pic related, that way you might be able to trigger her PTSD.
>>285620441How do people like most of them? I know Nagisa is basically the plus one of the Holy Quintet since she's in Rebellion, and that there are a few manga spin off characters that show up too. But I've never ever seen any of these gacha characters show up on the internet outside of circles dedicated to Madoka. That one Alina Grey girl seems to have a little bit of attention put on her but it seems like she's more of a meme then someone people actually like.
>>285624195gacha slop consumers like kyouko jogger and your average massi/vg/ooner have fried out dopamine receptors and so don't feel any attachment to anything that isn't another spin of the wheel. I highly recommend, especially if you are >>285619676to stop playing. It's like playing a pachinko game just because they branded it with megucas. you know you shouldn't be doing it. fapping to random ai images of the holy quintet might be genuinely better for anyones health.
>>285624413Yeah I'll admit, I don't think I'm built to enjoy this genre at all. I hate gambling and stuff like dailies in most games, but I wanted to see some of the Magia record stuff while we wait for Kaiten to come out. Think I'll just read some of the manga instead. One thing that I had a bit of an epiphany about though is something that's kind of been in the back of my mind for a long time about gacha characters, and on a grander scale a lot of anime characters in general. Every time I'd look at one of those literal who Meguca's backstory they'd often follow a very specific formula, establish some weird gimmick that defines much of there personality, and then provide a tragic vignette that explains why they have that specific gimmick. Think Nagisa with her cheese thing and the super duper sad and totally not contrived cheese tragedy with her mom. I mostly say this since on my rewatch I was trying to figure out why Kyouko felt really out of place with the other 4 girls in the original show, and then I realized that she also basically followed this formula to a tee. Though she's a lot more enjoyable of a character to watch on screen then basically all of these little weirdos, her smaller role in the original show kind of forced them to give her a much more easily digestible story that could be described in a single scene. I suspect that when they were writing MadoMagi they had Sayaka, Mami, Madoka and Homura and the themes of the show already figured out but needed just one more character to make things work and then created Kyouko to fit in with what they already had instead of having the story be about her. Kind of like an evolutionary link between the other anime girls and all the spin off girls that came after.
>>285624801>Think Nagisa with her cheese thing and the super duper sad and totally not contrived cheese tragedy with her mom.you must be new so you should be aware that nagisa predates the retarded gacha slop. Also while I am not going to say you are wrong a lot of gacha characters (not necissarily a majority just a sufficient ammount) are probably based on witches that also exist and witches DO follow said set of rules because that defines their labyrinth. This is why nagisa momo has that back story. she had it even before rebellion, because it was necissary esoteric information/fuel for inucurry to design her labyrinth. as for kyouko herself, she is not seen in some of the original promotional material and was supposed to be the stand in fakeout antagonist along side homuras green/silver ranger
>>285606177I will make this image my phone wallpaper, I am 30 years old and no longer give a fuck. Look at that adorable little face, god dammit.
>>285625042Sorry I think the way I wrote that post implied that I was exclusively just talking about the characters in Exedra, I was in fact thinking more about how Japan tends to write a lot of characters in general. Off the top of my head Disgaea does it, One Piece does it from what little I've seen of it, probably countless other series do this sort of thing. And the thing about Nagisa and Kyouko for me is that I actually do like them as characters, and they aren't the main focus of Madoka Magica so they don't really need to have the depth of character as someone like Sayaka or Homura, or even Madoka and Mami. But there are definitely a lot of franchises out there that will have their entire cast follow the gimmick>sad backstory for gimmick formula. I don't think it's a bad way to write characters mind you, but I think what made Madoka Magica special is that the girls in it feel like they wrote the events that happen and molded the characters through the story rather then coming up with an immediately understandable character and then contriving a reason for them to be the way that they are. And again I don't think every person involved in the plot all need to be written that way, some characters can just be there to serve a purpose and any back story they have can be used as a little bit of set dressing to make them fit in more. It's just that once you start to expand outwards and make spin off material, and you start using this formula to make new casts of characters, you can really start to feel the difference between the two.
>>285625042I think that particular remark was not with respect to Nagisa's trivia given in the animation note, but rather the absolute nonsense that was her "full" backstory in MagiReco complete with the edgelord unicorn meguca.
>>285625458if you're talking about scene zero then scene zero is basically someones original fiction with the names crossed out and madoka characters written in their place by shaft/magica quartet.
>>285625310You know thinking about it now, I thought I read Nagisa's backstory on the wiki or something only to find it wasn't really there, and I'm realizing that I actually had her backstory with her mom that hates her and trying to appeal to her with cheesecake or whatever described to me in a youtube comment, and I rolled my eyes at the over the top nature of it. I DID also find out later that the mother was murdered by the creepy unicorn thing, but I will admit I did not experience her story myself so me shitting on it as hard as I did might not be justified. I still believe she fits my example of the formula I was talking about however,
>>285625799Meant for >>285625458Also it seems like Nagisa is the most inconsistent character in this series in terms of what her actual story is considering how many times they've added stuff to her. Very strange.
>>285625869Well the super edgy story is explicitly the Magia Record timeline's version of Nagisa. Later on it was shown that the Rebellion Nagisa doesn't know Yu (the "edgelord unicorn meguca")(if you didn't already know, Magia Record took place in a special snowflake timeline that was outside the Law of Cycles for... reasons)
>>285625799>>285625869honestly that sounds like non canon scene zero slop and I'm glad I decided to bury that in a shallow ditch instead of have it included in the wider world tulpa madoka is rampaging through. I believe the original original (before rebellion) it was not even revealed if the wish for cheese was for herself or her mother. it was only once we had nagisas character design I believe when we found out that the wish
>>285598434Welcome to the future Homura!While you were sleeping i erm ended up making some, few, many clones of you.And for some reason several of em ended up like furries.
>>285626003>(if you didn't already know, Magia Record took place in a special snowflake timeline that was outside the Law of Cycles for... reasons)Sheesh. It's always simple, short series that are super self contained like Madoka that turn into the most convoluted things ever once they get popular and try to expand. I think I might just stick to Wraith arc and the Mami/Kyouko prequel for now. Maaaaaybe Oriko and Tart since I heard they were okay.>>285626077>Scene0Just looked that up and it's apparently a second magical girl that's going through her own timeloops at the same time? Yeah that's probably really stupid.
All the megucas are gay or bi.
>>285626149Well the original series' ending makes Madoka an unusually hard property to write side stories for. Either you make a completely self-contained side story that doesn't involve the Holy Quintet at all (Kazumi, Suzune, Tart) or you tell a story that ultimately doesn't matter because its timeline is going to be overwritten (the other manga that aren't gag self-parodies) or... you invent a special snowflake parallel universe (Magia Record)The PS Vita game found a secret fourth option: its True End revealed that the entire game was just a dream that post-series Homura had
>>285626149scene zero was an original project pitched to shaft i believe. because they where creatively bankrupt they decided to throw it into a blender to stuff the resulting mush into a meguca sausage casing.
>>285626469Personally I think the ending of madoka was too good and finished to allow for a proper continuation. Wraiths cant carry the setting forward. In fact in my own imagination with madoka experiencing the as n approaches infinity fic, with the permutations of changes I made (there are already some characters who "recognize tropes" like kazumi and renji in the original fic) she ends up thinking of the wish she made in canon as a possible idea but discards it because she realizes if her setting is actually fiction it would basically be retconned almost immediately. regardless of how illogical and stupid it would be from anyone in universe who has to actually live along side them, witches must be an appeal point of the setting with their unique appearance. it would be like nuking all eldritch horrors from cthulu. such a sweeping change could have no staying power in the future of the franchise because something else would inevitably need to establish itself as a replacement. We have in actual canon Madoka's 12 episode anime, the movies as a separate but parallel canon. and several spin off manga. then after that the side material which is non canon at worst and supplementary at best (drama cds). then we have the completely non canon material (games which exist in an alternate universe, reco, scene zero, pentagram, portable. side manga which are entirely gag based, doujins, crossovers)I think this block of TL:DR encompasses a lot of the evidence for the following fact: Madoka has a lot of left over emotion to explore but not a lot of leftover plot. as someone dabbling in creativity in this franchise, understanding the characters intricate details isn't that hard if you go into it with an open mind. But writing the plot is another matter entirely. The setting rules of madoka magica are extremely strict in a lot of ways that makes writing a plot that fits in with what came before extremely challenging. Never mind capturing the same core appeal as the show.
>>285626469There was a reason why when I first watched this show as a highschooler back in 2015 or whatever I never watched Rebellion. The original ending really was kind of perfect and tied everything up beautifully. I'm glad I waited until this year to rewatch the OG and finally see Rebellion though, it since while the literal perfect plot does get undone, watching the characters move even farther into the arcs that were set up by the tv show was a treat. >>285626760>Madoka has a lot of left over emotion to explore but not a lot of leftover plot.I agree heavily with this sentiment. The characters still have juice in their personal stories but the tale of Madoka Magica was kind of a one and done deal. A very strange problem to have.
>>285626760Plot going forward? How ridiculous would it be to have a plot where it's some sort of fight against one or more alien civilizations? Incredibly absurd. How about, fast forward 1500 years and humanity has the tech to control (at least somewhat) meguca powers and there is a civilizational space war. Even more absurd and retarded. Don't care, would watch.
>>285626760As a result when canon, fanfiction, side stories, and doujin material try to handle the penultimate conflicts without stepping on the toes of the original they can stumble badly. Even Rebellion does this, having madoka take on the position of order and authority and not breaking the rules, when basically the entire arc of madoka's character is the antithesis of this. But rebellion is still well received for the most part. Why is that? it's because the emotions are left on the table to explore as mentioned. We got madoka's emotional through line in the 12 episode anime. We learned how girls must seize power or be crushed by an uncarring universe. But Homuras storyline was left almost entirely untapped. the story of the opinions that are counter to that, of protecting those innocent brave girls from the razors of that uncaring universe, and a perspective that lines up deeply with a lot of the adult male audience to begin with. When rebellion explored that plot it felt correct to explore. But it also had to crush what came before it under a jackboot of plot revisions and retcons. I think even the people involved in the project also didn't like that about it or knew at least it would be divisive enough and so came up with the multiple canon timelines. Personally I think Madoka suffers a lot from trying too hard to monetize a continuous setting that obeys all of the same rules. I like that the world can, especially in as n approaches infinity and witch of subsumption, be almost treated like a magical girl sandbox world filled with mysterious and deadly mysteries. but pretty much anything is going to require homura to turn that shield again and or clap those hands. if you want it to make sense. >>285626921gay space communism megucas sucked though. but thats a decent example in itself. the wraith plot is so unworkable that it was basically surgically removed from that one.
>>285619676I love this series but I still refuse to get into the gacha games. Manga spinoffs like Oriko are all I need for new megucas
Homura will get over her gay crush in Kaiten.
>>285626149The only time I see people mention Scene 0 is when talking about thread drama and other similar shit. I tried to look into it once but I heard at one point the OC needs to convince Homura not to abandon Madoka and live with her. I will never read Scene 0
>>285598434>"Ayo da pizza here!">Homura tumbles down a flight of stairs
Cute raspberry
>>285627970CHI~ GA~ U~
>>285627970Sayaka is cute, CUTE
>>285627970>Kyosuke DIDN'T fuck thisWhat the fuck was his problem?
>>285628115confirmed violinsexual
>>285627970That whole scene was peak. Love seeing the girls get along.>>285626760>>285626921>>285626952Are these fics you guys keep mentioning stuff you wrote yourself or just fics you happen to enjoy? The last time I read fanfiction was on pre ao3 overtaking fanfiction.net
>>285598434https://youtube.com/watch?v=WO-kLya4uuQ
>>285628168theyre ones I read or have read. I dont write but sometimes I do like to imagine changes I would make to these fics to improve them.Witch of subsumption is one I whole heartedly recommend without any caveats. Kyoukojogger wont like it but when does that faggot ever like anything. You as a sayakafag might enjoy it especially since its very sayaka centric though the protagonist is actually a witch. The main issue this fanfic has is that it never really gets off the ground. You are introduced to its mechanics, its premise, and then it just abruptly ends on the cusp of the prelude being concluded. essentially on episode 4 if you will, where mami dies and the status quo changes.I still think its worth reading.As n approaches infinity is a lot more flawed but it has to be in order to account for the fact that as a crossover it must concede on some madoka related things. The biggest problem I had with it though is how everyone side steps the fact that magical girls need to consume the despair of souls effectively to survive and the closest thing to it addressing that comes from homura and its just not very good. a much better explination to sayaka could be given, and then its never ever brought up again in a meaningful way nor do characters react appropriately to it the way sayaka does in the actual anime; by giving the grief seeds away. secondly, the fic unnecissarily blows kaname junko, turning her from a struggling but affluent OL to someone who can out drink geezers and is too smart for anyone to fool or be fooled. The entire point of this character was to be an example of how junkos suffering and failures where not pointless. It's what gives madoka the tenacity for her wish and seeing her mom in homura. Lastly the fanfic also seems to or tries to understate the fact that universes are unique and not reverted. In my imaginings I changed these things and gave madoka a new hobby similar to guitar kyousuke to shift the story. I liked the rest of it.
>>285628381god i hate nujewgle search
>>285628381No offense but you pretty much spend your entire time complaining about everything to the point where I don't even know why I should care about the thing you're talking about or read anything you're recommending.
>>285628381>>285628415Interesting. I'm not sure if I'd ever take the dive into the fanfic well myself anymore but it's neat to see people who are still into it. Also Bleach/Madoka is a strange combo. I read the first few hundred chapters of Bleach up until he turned into a hollow ages ago and forgot 99% of what happened so I don't really know how these two settings would coexist, not just mechanically but thematically. I also think I wouldn't be able to handle the first fic since it ends before the plot starts.
>>285628526
Is there any new fanfics that are good? I feel like every time fics are mentioned here it's just Witch of subsumption, As n approaches infinity, that one JJK crossover fic and to the stars
I dreamt of an AIslop pic of 3 Kyokos and a Madoka that was used as a promotional image.
>>285628478reading fanfiction is not for everyone. everyone has their opinions, red flags, and frustrations. Furthermore I prefer longfics, and as n approaches infinity is basically 500k words. very few fics in madoka are longer. I think some warnings over its problems are warranted. >>285628526Personally I think the fanfic does a god job explaining how the settings mesh together. I also think doppels/hollow bankai are an interesting direction for magical girls to develop in the future. Add to the fact that the inner world of bleach seems to be reflected in the pocket labyrinths of witches and it seems like its ripe for a crossover like this, and it's not even the only one. There are a few others like it. That said I don't really care for bleach as a setting itself. I'm firmly in the madoka side of things, but I like characters who face a dark version of themselves and I think it would be cool for madoka's inner bleach world to be a reflection of her in kriemhild Gretchen, which seems to be the direction the story is going but since it's homura centric I haven't been given strong reason the payoff will be that good. Madoka's empathy and desire to connect with others into what we know as the law of cycles has its roots in her witch form and it's tyrannical form of this power. to quote a certain gamedev jewtuber "It's ugly and unpredictable and it's scary, so he tries to pretend it doesn't exist, or that he doesn't need it but of course, that only makes the problem worse, and holds him back from being the person he needs to become to protect the people he really cares about" I honestly hope the fic goes for that because I am here for madoka conquering and then allying with that dark version of herself in a prolonged fashion rather than in one explosive moment in episode 12.
>>285628603Fair enough, it's just that a lot of your posts make you sound like one of those shitty fans that never does anything except complain about everything. You literally recommended a fic and then described it entirely with your complaints.
>>285628584>newsince I read via TTS at work for something new to catch my attention it has to hit 100k words first. >>285628689People normally regard fanfiction the way you would regard seeing someone shitting in the street despite the fact that people consume even worse slop every single day. It's simply the nature of things that to shill fanfics you basically have to extole their flaws to become believable and not someone who unironically reads madoka nukes north korea. In general I have a rule for fanfiction. if I read it twice it's obviously I like it, since doing so means normally sitting through an entire 3-10 shifts of my job listening to nothing but TTS read it along with whatever BGM i have on hand. As n approaches infinity has gotten 3 reads from me. witch of subsumption 7.
>>285628573Wassup boi?>>285628603A story that explores Madoka's character in a way that doesn't have her take the observer role she does in the main show definitely would be appealing if she's the character you identify most strongly with. I suppose I'm lucky in that Sayaka was done so well in the show itself that fics like that aren't really needed for her, the only place for Sayaka's story to go from the show is up. Do you relate to Madoka anon? I've notice you like to post her quite a bit. It might sound really, really fucking cringe, but when I was a very emotional teen I used to listen to Sayaka's normal and witch themes on loop in bed and just cry for like a week or two after watching the show.>>285628689Sometimes you gotta let people know the harsh truths about something you enjoy when recommend them anon. My personal guilty pleasure is reading super long litrpg webnovelslop on sites like royal road. Most of it is extremely amateur but it's fun watching fledgling writers learn their voice and explore themes and ideas that are unique to them in a world where many things start out very derivative
>>285628750Why do you keep posting your shitty edited version of this meme when the original is funnier
>>285628782Who's your favorite Bleach character?
>>285628782uihihi
why movie always getting delayed
>80% of the longest Madoka fics on A03 are just shipping or crossovers I'm not surprised by the shipping but why the fuck are there so many crossovers?
>>285628869not enough meguca pachinko money.need to play blackrock with more all seeing eye references.
>>285628812I don't think I was even in highschool when I read through bleach and it wasn't my favourite series so my memory is very foggy, but I do remember that I really, really liked Chad. Thought he was super cool. Heard later that he basically gets forgotten after that one fight where he summons giant fists from the sky and understood I made the right decision not continuing the series. I'm not a shonen person, I'm not the sort that needs characters to win fights to like them, but characters just fading in the background with nothing to do makes me sad.
>>285628869Zigaretten, bitte verstehen Sie
>>285628881>I'm not surprised by the shippingI am. I have no idea where all this shit comes from and it’s annoying. Crossovers are much less annoying by comparison, more interesting and it’s not low iq fag slop like shipping.
>>285628892Ah, okay. Don't mind me.>>285628851Ya failed.
>>285628931unless you see an m/m pairing or omegaverse or some other shoujo slop tag, shipping isn't even real. most tags aren't even real.
>>285628931I mean, it's fanfiction. It would be more surprising if a large amount of it wasn't shipping related. The amount of fics that crossover with multiple other series is what I find more surprising. Not because I don't expect them, but because of how many there are.
>>285628931That being said I agree there should be more fics that are just normal stuff that’s not a crossover and not shipping cancer.The meguca world has a lot of untapped potential for fanfiction.
>>285628944What about you anon? Was there someone in particular you really liked from that series? These days the only time I'll ever see people mentioning Bleach is for the girls but I think that's just modern coomer /a/ for you. I can't recall if anyone had deeper arcs in that show or if it was more like a Dragonball type show where it was just about getting power ups. I do remember the inner mind palace fights against the evil self being pretty interesting though.
>>285629058I haven't seen much of Bleach after the first season and that was eons ago so, like you, it's a very hazy memory.
>>285628996witch of subsumption is kind of the kino version of that to me. it taps into the tropes of madoka itself without relying on too many externalities. however you wont find it on ao3 haha. There are some other non crossover madoka fics that explore stuff but for the most part I find a lot of them to have worse problems. Resonance days for example has a very interesting world, is longer than as n approaches infinity, invokes that half witch stuff I like, and is a sandbox of opportunity. However the whole thing is made unbearable by donut steel nagisa (the fic predates the 3rd movie) who is a constant bitch and drag on the whole thing. the stuff we dabbed on mami for in this thread doesn't begin to approach the level of misplaced blame she throws at everyone and unlike mami she doesn't die in 3 episodes so you are looking at 800k words of her taking every negative plot twist and finding a way to make the fallout from it worse for the entire group. The main good thing I can say about it is that it really shows what a party without madoka looks like. Madoka would absolutely shut this shit down right away or at least try to.
>>285629092Oh okay fair enough then anon lmao. I thought you were giving me a shit test or something.>>285629096That pre Rebellion Nagisa fic sounds fascinating. One of my favourite things about the communities that form around stories is how people will imagine untold details and characters and places that are only mentioned but we never get to see. I was reading some of the 2011 live reaction threads to the airing of Madoka Magica and it's genuinely a fascinating experience getting to see people theorize things that never became true. People thinking that Mami was going to be a twist villain (which wasn't entirely unfounded), people thought Homura was a version of Madoka from the future trying to change her own past. Crazy shit. Sometimes, despite the fact that I'm currently in a state where I want to read and look at the side material of this franchise, I really appreciate when stories have a bunch of details that are never explicitly explained. It leaves a lot of room for people to imagine what they like. It certainly seems to mystical and mysterious nature of Madoka has left a lot of room for all these fanfics you like at the very least.
>>285598434Mayonegg
>>285629234It was sort of a test. I can put my sword down now.>>285629258Accelerator pls.
>>285629234yeah thats definately a factor in resonance days favor. however having such a negative character drag down characters you actually do care about for 800k strains me beyond my breaking point. this is one I wasnt even able to finish the full 800k before I just said fuck this and bailed. Theres a similar universe one called walprugisnights about a turned homura and madoka but I gather its supposed to be low stakes and thats not really what I want from an exploration of the two. I was around for most of the meguca threads but didn't watch until people mentioned the time travel. I knew the thing was going to unmake me and pretty much did exactly what you said and laid around the house for a solid week. that said I was a grown adult at the time so ymmv on if it's more or less cringe. I did remember entirely missing out on season 1 the promised neverland and binge reading the archives. I really need to data horde a hard copy of these archives one day. some images which are broken forever could even be restored if people uploaded their old content that has the same hash ID
>>285629350Absolutely cute.
>>285629350every time I see this image I think of tama from saint tailwould it be funny if madoka really had lizmura as a pet?
>>285629234>I really appreciate when stories have a bunch of details that are never explicitly explained. It leaves a lot of room for people to imagine what they likeI recently learned that the author of Ben Drowned came back years later (during the beginning of covid lockdowns) to "finish" the story which translated into him lore dumping a bunch of retarded explanations for everything
Homu Homu?
>>285629275Well I'm glad you didn't shish kebab me, even if I don't know what a wrong answer would have looked like lmao>>285629345I don't think there's anything wrong at all with being affected emotionally by things like that. I'm an adult now, and even on my rewatch I still cried for Sayaka and the ending. It's interesting that time travel is the plot device that brought you in, I was spoiled on many aspects like Sayaka turning into a witch and Mami's death, but Homura was the one aspect I knew nothing about. Episode 10 was awesome for me because of that. I'll also just say, that while time travel stories are extremely easy to fuck up, there's something specific about groundhog day style looping that always makes for an excellent story. Maybe it's the fact that it's forced to be internally consistent while also expanding the writing opportunities in so many ways that lets the author explore so many possibilities. I always seem to like it.
>>285629439You said Chad so that's what allowed you to pass. Only one character would have been the "wrong" answer so chances are you would have passed anyway. Regardless, it's best that this subject is dropped.
>>285598434Don't worry, I made sure to use spermicidal lube.
>>285628584Have you read Fargo? It's really strange and I didn't like the sequel part at all but it's got good atmosphere and the descriptions give the right abstract aesthetic sensation.It's also the fic I've read that expands the canon universe with the most additions without adding in outside influences so the setting still feels pretty true to form even though it's widly different.Basically it's post series magical girls in america but everything is gradually going to shit and the world is unravelling as Homura's illusion starts breaking down and the wraiths keep getting more and more uncontrollable.
>>285628782It's sort of frustrating that writing a Madoka fanfic that actually has Madoka herself as the main character is near impossibly difficult so she barely ever shows up in anything. Everyone else has lots of development in canon or else entire universes of side stories, but Madoka herself is mostly in the background, if she's there at all.
>>285628881Madoka's setting is really restrictive but the characters are very evocative and easy to write for. So simply by taking them out of their setting and putting them into a different one you drastically simplify the writing process and make it really easy to write plots.
>>285629593>ye old hambergeru awkemee bad murrica fix fanficI haven't been able to stomach the premise and I'm way too scared to unwrap this. to be honest The same could be said about even madoka centric post rebellion war fics. there was one where madoka did seem interesting where wraiths and witches both existed side by side. I thought that madoka was going to connect with grief seeds and gain the powers of the witches that way but it turns out she was just absorbing them for a generic grief based powerboost. not really for me. she also keeps eating/forgiving the clara dolls which makes a lot of sense emotionally but comes out of nowhere on a logical basis. TL:DR why does everyone want to see this war happen so bad?
>>285629636thats a much more succinct explanation than my own while carrying much the same message
>>285629593Yeah I've heard of it. Haven't read it yet but it does seem interesting>>285629622It doesn't even matter what type of fic it is since all of them tend to relegate Madoka to being a side character. Even with shipping shit and one shots, where you would expect Madoka to actually be important, tends to make Madoka a side character. It's honestly baffling how basically no one gives a shit about making Madoka be important
>>285629823It's mostly centered around entirely american characters and their trials and tribulations, it only really gets into madoka/homura incidentally and mostly at the end.The central premise is that the whole wraith system is fundamentally flawed and in many ways perhaps even worse than the witches were, with large enough masses of despair starting to form barriers on their own large enough to swallow entire cities. I just really like the descriptions of the barriers and magical combat, and the characters have their own interesting emotional cores that drive them.Plus the world building about how major cities with tens of millions of people produce such massive levels of phantoms that they're either abandoned or have to be managed by hundreds of magical girls drafted from neighboring regions and formed into paramilitary squads and how this leads to a sort of defacto magical girl government large enough to start requiring corporate structure.
>>285627970sayaka (and bebe i guess) fucking around the entire first half of the movie is one of my favourite things about rebellion watching sayaka pretend to be surprised about homura is really funny on a rewatch
>>285630357I guess I should rewatch Rebellion then because I don't remember anything like that. I wanted to do it right before the Walpurgisnacht came out but it got delayed again.
>>285631352She lets adult men fuck her in back alleys
>>285631938Post proof.
I think Homura and Sayaka will come to no longer hate each other by the end of Kaiten
>>285632079AIEEEEE NOOOOOOO I’M RETIRING MY ONLYFANS ADS FROM THIS WEBSITE THIS INSTANT!!!!
>>285632129She's fully clothed I think I'm gonna be okay
>>285616214it is absolutely a bad show and everyone who likes is also shit with shit taste
>>285628907I haven't forgotten. Me and other anons promised to send this man cigarettes if the movie ends up good. I plan to follow through, the others better too.
>>285606620Just because Homura feels agape for Madoka does not mean she can't also want to see Madoka agape (from Homu fingers)>>285606530Can you post a source or screenshot of that? I want a convenient image to post when necessary.
>>285632377>Can you post a source or screenshot of that? I want a convenient image to post when necessary.NTA but it's from the Rebellion Exhibition Booklet
>>285632377>Madoka does not mean she can't also want to see Madoka agape (from Homu fingers)It's a real shame those porn mats people thought were made by Bandai turned out to be fan made.
>>285632377>Just because Homura feels agape for Madoka does not mean she can't also want to see Madoka agape (from Homu fingers)…until you stop ignoring stuff said by the actual staff.https://wiki.puella-magi.net/Puella_Magi_Madoka_Magica_the_Movie:_Rebellion_Official_Guidebook_%22Only_You%22Yuritards are a whole new level of brain dead.
>>285630754I'm now imagining Kaiten having it's own EoE "I'm so fucked up" scene where Homura steals a pair of Madoka's panties or something.
>>285628869To make you watch something like Seasons (Ivanov-Vano and Norshtein, one of his first works)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGh9Cq_4wX8HQ scan is athttps://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6791131or Blue Puppyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-WXhhuUyHAhttps://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6759402and get your animation fix.
>>285632217You gotta send them now so he stops making cigarette runs and actually finishes the movie
Anime for this feel
>>285634610Mahou Shoujo Homura Magica, of course
>>285634610If you mean the black hair idk.If you mean getting distracted while delving into specifics and ending up sexualizing stuff then you might have heard of Shaft's other big anime.
>>285598434I'd tell her "you can go back to sleep. It's still not out, sorry.">>285598628No.
>>285634991kek
Guys I'm starting to go into despair and I dunno what to do, it's so over for me. I feel like I'm speedrunning the witch route. Maybe this is the best mood for Kaiten when it ever eventually comes out.
>>285637674Kaiten isn't real, it can't hurt you.
>>285637493holy cute
>>285637493
She did nothing wrong
>>285639520She didn't molest anyone in paused time so she at least missed an obvious opportunity.
>>285607799>Bedridden for most of her life.>apparently despised by her family because of her condition>Madoka was the first person who cared about her>A witch cursed her, boosting up her insecurities to 'fucking kill yourself' levels. but she was saved by Madoka and Mami.essentially the trauma of that encounter with a witch was what broke Homura and made her love 'dokes as much as she did. and well, seeing Madoka and Mami die to Walpurgis didnt help much.
>>285639747If she touches someone while time is stopped they get unfrozen tho. Clearly she should have taken photos of people while they were naked to masturbate to later, but she had much more important things to deal with like stalking Madoka and committing total Kyubey death, so I can't fault her for not doing that while she had the opportunity
>>285639798> apparently despised by her family because of her conditionWas there ever any evidence for this?
>>285640053She is never depicted as having any kind of familial adult presence in her life in basically any media.
>>285640053of course not. but lets be real here; the fact we never see her family, and the fact she was so depressed all the time prior meeting madoka, implies she never saw them very often.sure, you could argue that they were paying for her medical treatment and all. but i would still have my doubts.
>>285640053>Was there ever any evidence for this?Iirc in one of the games Homura off headedly mentions the fact she has a mother when someone asks about it and then never brings it up again. This is the only time she has ever mentioned having any form of family is anything Madoka related.I still think it's more likely she's just a orphan that was raised in a mission
>>285639974>If she touches someone while time is stopped they get unfrozen tho.I forgot lol. Outside of the obvious Mami fight in Rebellion, how often does this actually happen in the anime?
>>285640421Even though she obviously has a good relationship with her mother, Madoka must take after her father (which actually makes perfect sense given he seems to be the one at home more often).
>>285640516Remember how when Sayaka became a witch she wouldn’t stop time until Kyoko grabbed her hand? I thought that confirms that anyone has to make contact before she stops time, although she could have waited to stop until she knew Kyoko was fully on board.
>>285639520She told Kyubey her memories. Other than that, my wife did nothing wrong.
>>285640105Isn't Sayaka pretty much the same? Hell Madoka seems like the only one with any real parental presence in her life.I don't recall ever seeing her family until her funeral although you see her room and apartment a bit. She was missing for so long that her body wasted away from lack of nutrition and she also mentions being lower middle class in the first ep, whereas everyone else at their middle-school seems fairly wealthy (by the level of coursework I assumed it was some private school).>homura has a western house in the city>madoka lives in a hyper-modern house>mami has a swanky apartment and refined air about her>hitomi is an ojou-samaHer teacher's even upset that the police aren't investigating her death, so I got the impression of her having a fairly absent family (due to work or some such) that she couldn't confide in unlike Madoka who has some pretty long conversations with her mom.And unrelated but a lot of Mitakihara itself has this oppressive feeling to it. Made me really want to play Mirrors Edge again.>>285640516When she tries to kill Sayaka, Kyouko grabs her and realizes whatever her power is it can't work if she's being touched.
>>285640898Sayaka's mother has a speaking line but she isn't onscreen. Homura only ever mentions Catholic school, so she's interpreted to be an orphan.
>>285640898>Isn't Sayaka pretty much the same?For Sayaka we can assume that at least one of her parents is in the picture because Madoka talks to one of them over the intercom to their condo in episode 8 and, like you said, someone is around to handle the funeral arrangements in episode 11. Homu has nothing and no one, as far as we know
>>285640053in as n approaches infinity they go with the less often used headcanon of them actually being loving but fuckingdeeeeaaad. This is used to give homura the hobby/background interest of ballet
>>285640610Madoka definately attempts that cool candor even in timelines where her self esteem is rock bottom, down to telling her mom basically "wake the fuck up" every morning and high fiving her instead of getting a kiss. You are meant to realize madoka is struggling with the fact that: she respects her mother, but her mother gets destroyed by alcohol basically every night after her job. the fact that she can do almost nothing to change this is part of her character wound.
>>285642098Disgusting OOC tumblrshit
>>285642156it's a template meme retard.
>>285642156That filename is from reddit actually
News when?
>>285642167Disgusting OOC tumblrshit template meme retard
>>285640053I don't know about despised but iirc it's her name on the nameplate of her house or something?So she probably lives alone.
>>285640053>>285640105>>285640898It's actually kind of fascinating how all the girls except Madoka give quite literally nothing to go on in regards to their families. Sayaka especially since it's clear her family does exist and she lives with them, unlike Homura where things are very vague. I feel like a lot of that is to help show that Madoka really does have a kind of perfect life where she is completely free from desires since she's in a world where she's both loved and very loving. Then she goes through one month of suffering and whoops she's ascended to bodhisattva/messiah status and takes on the sins of megucakind and delivers them from evil.
>>285643195>she is completely free from desires since she's in a world where she's both loved and very lovingShe wasn't free from desires though, she felt directionless and void of purpose, she wanted to be able to do something meaningful with her life. Maybe she oughtn't to have had desires given how good her life was up until that point, but then she wouldn't be human.
>>285643195> I feel like a lot of that is to help show that Madoka really does have a kind of perfect life where she is completely free from desires since she's in a world where she's both loved and very loving.being loved but watching others suffer being unable to take on their burdens is madokas wound, so in a sense this is a torturous environment for her and lead directly to her low self esteem. the hell of it for her is that she can't be upset, she has no reason to be wrathful. she's increadibly fortunate.Sayaka also calls herself privileged on the roof so I have to wonder if she's really poor.
>>285644113Sayaka isn't poor, she's working class at worst. It's not like her apartment is a shithole.
>>285643457It's definitely not the same sort of want as more wordly desires though. And even then the whole reason she wants this purpose and the ability to take action in the situation she's in is because she's being pushed away as hard as possible from having any agency until the very end. She does develop one small want after becoming Madokami which kind of screwed things up later, in that she didn't want to be totally forgotten and let Homura remember her. Then Mara came and dragged buddha from transcendence.>>285644113You can see that in past timelines Madoka seems to have much higher self esteem, despite how horrible her life becomes as a meguca. I think Sayaka speaks of privilege not in terms pf wealth in that scene but in terms of capability. She's able bodied and alive but what does that matter when there are people who were capable of doing greater things then her who are now either crippled or dead. She feels that she's being wasteful for not giving herself into something which is why when she initially saves Madoka and Hitomi after making her choice she feels really really good. She's actually pretty similar to Madoka in that she wants purpose on top of wanting to be loved. It's also the only thing she has left to cling to as everything starts to fall apart around her in the end which is why she starts acting so self righteous.
Homackarelu.
Mada dame yo
Ranking megucas from most gay to least gay:>Homura>Kyouko>Madoka>Sayaka>Mami
homu
>>285642190February
Madoka Gayica
>>285648731Slut
>>285646918madoka is the top.
>>285646918Correct.
>>285598628Why would she? She's the one delaying the movie because her time with Madoka will end when the movie comes out.
>>285626560Put in because it makes sense.>>285626149>>285626003>>285625458Makes sense to me. Doroinu wrote it
>>285625523>>285626077>>285626149>>285627402Scene 0 is a canon prequel. You will read it.
>>285619676You can learn more in the Magical Girl Stories. Summaries on wiki.>>285620441And they are all lovely >>285624195Read the stories>>285624413Actually the receptor is functioning and I have big brain.>>285627273Make sure you read ComiReco.
I forgot the gachafag existed
>>285652082is it possible to learn this power?
>>285646918You forgot yourself above all of them and separated by a power gap
>>285653673Why is she like this?
>>285637841Kaiten will be real, and it will hurt me.
I hope Kaiten shits on everyone who thinks what Homura did at the end of Rebellion was wrong.
Madoka is the edgy lesbian magical girl show right?
>>285655559Yea basically
>>285655559Yes, but there's only one lesbian, but she's also the most important character.
>>285655319
>>285655559>edgy It's dark but it isn't edgy
I love edgy post series Homura
does anybody know a good way to record theaters hearing aids ? i heard they provide a high quality audio for camrips, asking about because i am planning to cam the 4th movie if it releases on my cunt.
>>285656113>onfuck "ai" keyboards
>>285655559Yeah, but there are only two lesbians and one bi.
>>285656398that's me lol
>>285656643Country
Love you meguca.
I'm noticing a lot of pro yuri posts and a lack of anti yuri posts. What does this mean? Are we a yuri general?
>>285659692>>285659767You two should kiss
>>285659692The majority of /pmmm/ likes yuri. It's just one vocal anti yuri fag mostly
>>285659870If he were to kiss everyone who has a problem with spam he would be kissing a lot of men.
I only like yuri if it's doomed.
>>285660280Same
>>285660280I only like yuri if it's ffmkino
>>285660448I agree but I don't think it really counts
>>285660521Then yuri is always bad.
>>285660542Watanare is literally yuri, retard.
>>285660587As is Madoka
>>285660657Ah, sorry, i thought you were a different personYou must be really bored with your life.
>>285660695What are you talking about? Do you think only one person thinks Madoka is yuri here? The series in which girls constantly touch each other, declare their love for one another and just overall act really gay?
>>285660759You act gayer than any of them
90% of This psudeo-general's problems would fade away if /a/ had poster ID's like some other boards
>>285660759Girls acting overly affectionate and touchy is FFM bait not yuri fanservice.Why do you think yurifags are a relevant enough demographic to warrant being pandered to? They’re not. Yuri is very niche.
>>285660759NTA but nobody actually believes Madoka is yuri outside of baiting. I hope you don't mistakenly believe you're in good company.
>>285660759>Do you think only one person thinks Madoka is yuri hereNta but we have a schizo named Tabb that thinks only one person makes all yuti post here. That's why he is called ACK 2.0.
>>285660759There is zero yuri in Madoka and all characters are canonically straight.
He always ends up revealing himself lol. Why are signaturefags like this
>>285660935I see he's also samefagging. Unfortunately no amount of spam will change the yuri and yuri subtext in Madoka
Madoka & Homura are pretty much just Himeko & Chikane from Kannazuki no Miku.
>>285661051>yuri subtextNo such thing exists. The yuri genre has existed in Japan since the 90s and they never faced any problem or censorship. They have no need to resort to implications about it at all.
>Projects his own homosexuality on Madoka characters>Now project his own samefagging tendencies on other postersoh know
>>285661078>Kannazuki no Miko
>>285661078No, the actual reference is Kamen Rider Ryuki. You won't like hearing that, however, as just like in Madoka, there is nothing romantic going on between the looper and the person they're trying to save.
>>285661095>oh knowESL-kun...
>>285660759There's a few Yurifags here but no one actually gives a shit if any element of Yuri is "canon" or not (besides mayybe the Apple Simp, and he's a bigger faggot than TB so who cares what he thinks). I'd enjoy if Madoka and Homura kissed in Kaiten but I'm also fully aware that for that to happen Homura's love would need to be retconned from being vaguely broad and all encompassing to actually romantic. Which is very unlikely to happen since only 1 member of the Magica Quartet likes that ship and it isn't Urobuchi.
Tomoe Mami's Mundane Everyday Life is a canon sequel manga that is beloved by the staff and Japanese fans.
>The gay couple is fighting again
>>285659692It all started when turbo autistic yurifags started seething at FFM. Yuri is for FFM. Rejecting that idea is how lgbt tourists were able to invade their spaces
>The Nanoha schizo are spilling into MadokaSadMadoka is an actually good anime so fuck off
>>285660871Steins;Gate shitter can freely change his IP so that wouldn't help at all.
Steins Gate and Gundam Mercury are trash and every single one of their fans should kill themselves
>>285661051Yuritards are a completely irrelevant demographic and a yuri series has never ever been popular without also having stuff for people outside of that niche (like MahoAko)Just because you're in tranny discords that tell you everything is yuri doesn't means it's true
>>285661219Both are excellent anime compared to Shit;Gate.
>>285661180>and it isn't UrobuchiUrobuchi never said he was against the ship & Atsuhiro never commented on it.
>>285661051There isn't a single homosexual thing in Madoka while literally everything points to the characters being straight.
>>285661281Stfu yuri tranny
>>285661212There's only 1 guy against FFM in these threads and it's fucking 3l. Everyone else, including RT, enjoys it>>285661219>Nanoha schizoQrd?>>285661281Urobuchi (at least around the time Rebellion was coming out) also doesn't think it's explicitly romantic in nature and is only "love-like". I get the feeling he doesn't really give a shit either way
>>285661281Explain thisIgnoring evidence will not make it disappear. Spamming will not make canon stop being canon or schizo fanfiction stop being schizo fanfiction.https://wiki.puella-magi.net/Nitro+_Q&A_Panels_at_Animagic_2013>Q: Why did you choose to portray a homosexual love?>A: I don't think it is that special - a really strong friendship turns into a lovelike-relationship without the sexual attraction, in their case.https://wiki.puella-magi.net/Puella_Magi_Madoka_Magica_the_Movie:_Rebellion_Official_Guidebook_%22Only_You%22>For example, it would’ve felt wrong if Sayaka had moved on to a completely new love interest. That wouldn’t have worked (laughs). I knew it wasn’t a series where we could make such bold changes.>Shinbo: But that kind of story for Sayaka is interesting (laughs).>Urobuchi: A new love, only to turn into a witch again? (laughs).>Shinbo: Right, she’d end up repeating the same thing over and over.>Urobuchi: She’d fall in love every time a handsome guy appeared, and then turn into a witch…>―Homura's line, "It's love", also caused a strong reaction, but thinking about it that way, it feels even deeper, doesn't it?.>Urobuchi: Well, you see, the reason I brought up the word "love" was because I was kind of thinking, "When it comes to a power that can even defeat aliens, nothing else fits, right?" (laughs).>Shinbo: However, one thing I want to mention is that, in my opinion, that love feels like it might be "fraternal love" (philia).>―Broader than romantic love.>Urobuchi: Romantic love, even when it gets all complicated, stops at Sayaka-chan's level (laughs).>Shinbo: (laughs). That's why I see it as fraternal love, not romantic love (eros). I think that what Homura directs towards Madoka is a broader kind of love.btw, that other anon is wrong as well, no staff member supports any ship.
>>285659692Even they don’t actually watch or read it, yurifags just latch onto popular straight stuff like Madoka and call it gayOh well at least yuri gave us MahoAko that one is actually good, would probably have been even better if it wasn’t yuri tho.
>>285661294>while literally everything points to the characters being straight.Outside of Sayaka & Hitomi liking Kyousuke, not points to the characters being straight & even Hitomi is gay for Homura in the PSP game which the staff for the anime was involved with.
>>285661349>btw, that other anon is wrong as well, no staff member supports any ship.
>>285661390*nothing
>>285661350MahoAko is good because it's unserious and the yuri is justified by men not existing in universeIt's not the same kind of stories as Madoka at all, Madoka is much more serious.
>>285661294Rika Ayano is canonically a Dyke
>>285661420>Unrelated textWhat did he mean by this
>>285661349On top of the fact none of this disproves what I said, this was written back in 2013.
>>285661477>he doesn't know moonrunesNGMI
>>285661349You're ignoring the yuri undertones page
>>285661518Hot
>>285661390Madoka wants love letters from boys and was confirmed to want a husband in a pre-series interviewhttps://wiki.puella-magi.net/100_QuestionsHomura was confirmed to not be gay multiple times in >>285661349Mami talks about wanting a husbandKyouko says in the same PSP game you just listed that she has no interest in girls>Hitomi is gay for Homura in the PSP gameAnd Homura and the other characters are weirded out by it
>>285661505>Being proven wrong doesn't disprove meHuh?>this was written back in 2013And?>>285661518Anyone can translate stuff.Unrelated text.>>285661522>You're ignoring schizo fanfictionAs everyone should
>>285661522The "yuri undertones" page is run by faggots and trannies with an agenda. There’s no such thing as yuri undertones.Urobuchi getting asked if it’s a homosexual love and going oh no it’s not as special as that is clear confirmation that it’s not.
>>285661543>Madoka wants love letters from boysShe never said she wanted love letters from boys, she was envious of Hitomi for getting so many love letters. She was expressing jealousy over how popular Hitomi is. Even all that, getting love letters from boys doesn't mean she wants to date them.
>>285661543>Kyouko says in the same PSP game you just listed that she has no interest in girlsHere's the quote btw
It's just too easy...
>>285661632You are being iintentionally obtuse. Both her mother and Sayaka knew the love letters she wanted were from boys.
>>285661597Nta but stories evolve. Madoka has leaned more into the yuri over the years. Don't be surprised when Kaiten confirms it all
>>285661294There's no heterosexual explanation for Homura and Kyouko. They radiate gayness
>>285661696>Madoka has leaned more into the yuri over the yearsYeah such as uhumuuuuuhhhhyeah>Don't be surprised when Kaiten confirms it allAnd what will it do when it triples down on everyone being straight and you lose yet again? Will you admit you were wrong? Or will you do this song and dance again for 15 more years?
>>285661294There's no homosexual explanation for Homura and Kyouko. They radiate straightness
>>285661739Lol schizo. What will you do? Cry on /pol/ about how the trannies made Madoka gay?
>>285661788The trannies like you are powerless to do anything.You will be the one crying on r/madokamagica about how evil homophobes are censoring yuri (something that never happened in history)You are not the target audience for this franchise and never were
>>285661597>Huh?I said Urobuch wasn't against the ship & you posted something that didn't disprove that.>And?His thoughts on the matter could have changed by them. You can't expect a person to have the exact same opinions on something that they did 13 years ago. He likely could have changed from being indifferent about MadoHomu being canon to completely supporting the ship & you wouldn't know it.
>>285661848Lol is everyone a tranny in your schizo mind? Common mental illness amongst /pol/cel election tourists.
>>285661848It's funny how you keep using this non canon spin off that as based on the author's doujinshi as evidence.
>>285661862Who cares what he personally thinks of the ship; it's not canon and he is saying as much. I don't give a shit about your fanship and am not evaluating them quality-wise, all I am doing is establishing the objective fact that they are NON-CANON.>His thoughts on the matter could have changed by themWhich wouldn't change the canon that he created where all characters are straight.>>285661888You brought up trannies, not me.>>285661908It's more canon than your 4chan posts. Also, you should stop replying to the same post multiple times, that's really schizo behavior on your part.
>>285661848>You are not the target audience for this franchise and never wereMadoka isn't a series focused on romance, so this argument is dumb. If you're so obsessed with whether or not the girls are gay tht you feel the need to shit up the thread with this rant, you're not the target audience for this series either.
who made him made
>>285661848>Homura marries Madoka's younger brother in the 30 year old single Mami timeline just so she can get closer to Madoka and technically be related to herOkay I know everyone's in a shitposting phase right now but that shits fucking funny. How is that spin off anyway? I was shocked to find out it had like 20 volumes and has been going on for so long.
>>285661969Lol this election tourist really thinks it's one samefagging tranny mocking him. Go back to /pol/ and scream about the joos or whatever.
>>285662031>How is that spin off anyway? I was shocked to find out it had like 20 volumes and has been going on for so long.It's so boring people stopped translating it after 4 chapters. The Quitent being married is the only thing anyone ever mentions when the series is talked about & that's rarely even brought up in the actual story. It's just used as a joke at Mami's expense since she's the only one who doesn't have a partner.
>>285661597>Unrelated text.it's fucking Aoki Ume talking about Kyouko and Sayaka's relationship in a romantic context
>>285661848Nigga you are a redditor
>>285661739Unless your suggesting canonical dykes have been a part of Madoka since the beginning than yeah they have started to pander to Yurifags. They haven't done it much but they still have
>>285661848>how evil homophobes are censoring yuri (something that never happened in history)This happened with the Sailor Moon dub.
>Steins;Gate shitter melty
>>285662016It was ME
>>285662013>Madoka isn't a series focused on romance, therefore it's not justified to claim people who want to see romance everywhere aren't the target audience.?>shit up the threadAh yes, i'm the one shitting up the thread by arguing, not the fucking retard who spent hours spamming the same shit over and over again and replying to himself. Clearly having an argumentative debate is shitting up the thread while braindead catchphrase spam isn't. You seem very objective anon.>>285662031It's fun. Wish it was fully translated but even though japanese fans love it and it's very popular there, yuritards are doing everything in their power to keep its popularity down in the west.>>285662088You should stop making your posts one minute apart if you want to pretend to be multiple people.>>285662109Nice lie. There is no romance mentioned.>>285662138Projection.
>>285662224Genuinely ACK-tier post.
>>285661636>>285661684>>285661739>>285661848>>285661969Why do you have this stuff saved on your computer?
>>285662264ACK only comes to threads to shit them up with off topic drama garbage and never contributes to actual conversation, which is exactly what you do. Link to one on topic post you made ITT.
>>285662106>>285662224>It's so boring people stopped translating it after 4 chapters.>It's fun. Wish it was fully translatedDamn even after 12 years of it being an ongoing? I guess if the only joke it ever makes is "Haha Mami's a spinster" that could certainly get old fast. It's interesting that the most popular spin off, at least with the nips is a Mami centred one, even if it's at her expense. I've actually really grown to appreciate Mami more with my rewatches so I'm glad she get's love from fans, even if that doesn't translate into in universe love lmao.
>>285662224Not everyone you disagree with is RT you fucking autist>yuritards are doing everything in their power to keep its popularity down in the west.>Nice lie. There is no romance mentioned.If you know Japanese so well why don't you translate the remaining volumes then? I'm sure it would be both more productive and more fulfilling than being a minor lolcow on a half dead general
>>285662224>even though japanese fans love itThey don't.
>>285662327This is why you get called ACK 2.0
Genuinely, what do you get out of sperging at people who only come here to antagonize you?
>>285662352Yes they do and they are coping about this fact.>>285662369The new one seem serious and serious people can be convinced. There's nothing wrong with having on topic arguments. The off topic retard that thinks I'm his twitter butt buddy is best left ignored (and reported).
>>285662485>they are coping about this fact*you are.
Keikaku doori
>>285662485>The off topic retard that thinks I'm his twitter butt buddy is best left ignored (and reported).The sperg on twitter does post in these threads anyway so I can't blame him for that
>>285662485>Yes they do and they are coping about this fact.Proof?
>>285662566You can however blame him for being mind broken by some random twitter user and thinking everyone is him to the point of shitting up the threads 24/7 hoping to interact with his twitterfag crush, and for doing literally nothing but that in these threads. He doesn't even like Madoka, he's just here to spam and shit up the threads, because apparently that's the only way an atheist can make his life look fulfilling, by ruining things for everyone else.>>285662640Sales numbers.
>>285662668Hmmmm this posting style reminds me of the posting style of /u/Tabbender and @TabbenderAlt. A coincidence I'm sure
>>285662344He's an EOP
>>285662777Yours reminds me of ACK, you're just obsessed with a french neo nazi instead of a polish tranny.
Hey guys.Guys.Hey guys. Guys check this out!
Be like Rintab the gigautistic proyuri 'aryan' soldier. Save the white race and the gospel of homosexual individualistic hedonism by obsessing over autistic Frenchman micrololcows online.
>>285663010
>>285663010CUTE
Qrd on the schizo shitting up the thread?
>>285598434Ask where Mami is
>>285663181She just woke up. How would she know that?
>>285663160It's the Steins;Gate fag and his gay boyfriend from xitter arguing again
>>285662668>Sales numbers.Sales numbers doesn't automatically mean people liked something or that it ws a good product. Some of the shittiest products in human history have sold well, especially if they're attached to a popular franchise.
The coolest and best meguca that always fights for truth and justice!!!
>>285663160Steins;Gate fags. Unironically the are the worst fanbase on this board by far.
>>285663313>Some of the shittiest products in human history have sold wellBecause they are popular, because the people have bad tastes.>especially if they're attached to a popular franchiseThe Mami manga sold well by Madoka spinoff standards and is popular in the japanese community.
>>285663438Are they coordinating?
>>285663363...is named Kyouko Sakura.
>>285663014Schizo post
>>285598434Your voice actress is very talented
>>285663486She can come too!
>>285662777Atheism is fundamentally left wing and irrational
>>285663516She would overshadow Sayaka by being much better.I'm not sure I could love them both equally. Now of course if Sayaka wants to join and Kyouko allows it I won't oppose it. But Kyouko will always be my true wife.
>>285663621I'm not actually a waifufag or a shippingfag despite all the Sayakaposting I've been doing. I actually just think Sayaka is a great character and love seeing her on screen.
>>285663621Garbage art. Get better taste
>>285663768
>>285598434Sayaka needs some spanking.
>>285663720Based Sayakaposter
>>285663460It might just be one really shitty Steins;Gate fan using AI/scripts, that's what I think.
>>285664026One guy using scripts feels more likely than multiple Steins;Gate fags.
>>285663497Rintab is indeed a massive schizo. That's why he is known as ACK 2.0.
>>285664024I just like blue dorks with an edgy chuuni side, which is why I'm also a massive Vergilfag...
>>285663010Like another anon said: CUTE!
>>285664175These threads need more posters like you
>>285664249Damn right!>>285664260I'm certain that once Kaiten comes out thread quality will go up. I've noticed that the best way to curb shitposting will always be to just engage in genuine discussion about what you like. Even shitposters can be made more chill if you can get them to yap about what they actually like instead of spamming one sentence complaints about other posters.
