Is Freiren a male franchise or a female franchise?I see lots of elements that would make it popular with women, but also a lot of isekai tropes that are popular with men.What does /a/ think?
It's mostly in the center, but it's clearly meant to appeal to emotionless autistic girlbosses.
why does it have to be one or the other? not everything is black or white
>>285761512women but also gays
>>285761677You can't market media to both genders. Women and men are just too different, especially today
>>285761720Jjk panders to horny teen girls and male toddlers
It's male fantasy. A woman spends her whole life after his death thinking about him. She regularly has lewd thoughts which she shares with the audience, and it's full of shounen action sequences. There's nothing for women here.
It's a shonen manga
>>285761512It is literally in Weekly Shounen Sunday. What do you think?>but also a lot of isekai tropes that are popular with men.Those are just fantasy tropes>>285761720Most battle shounen and especially sports shounen appeal to both genders
>>285761720>especially today
>>285761512it's broadly appealing to men and women. nothing about it indicates that it was made for a specific demographic
>>285761512Tranny franchise with hints of nu-male.
>>285761801>especially sports shounenThese have a majority female fan base though. It's almost never 50/50
>>285761773It's probably my wife's favorite anime. There's something for women in it. She hated the arena arc. She is also a big fan of jobless reincarnation.I liked it. Frieren is cute and could take it.
>>285761773It's a female fantasy. She was with Chad once but thought "I can do better". But when he's gone, she regrets it for the rest of her life.
>>285761512It's literally a shonen manga.
>>285761890>She hated the arena arcThat's exactly what I mean. You can't satisfy both genders
>>285761890>>285761924what arena?
>>285761961He means the tournament arc
>>285761982the exam? she's right it's dogshit
>>285761720You can, it just requires being schizophrenic and market awareFor example MHA with Hori’s generic shonen writing and useless titty females for boys, but also hard pivot to Dabi, Endeavor, Shoto and Bakugo being in everything once his editors saw they garnered a fujo audience in the votes.It made the manga sucky but it worked.
>>285761850Slam dunk and major probably
>>285761982thank you anon. Yes, that's what I meant.>>285761924That's true. I think there's enough aspects of Frieren that appeal to both men and women. It was a good anime to watch with my wife. Though, she completely tuned out on that arc but I was still engaged.Frieren is cute, and I would smash. There was a good combination of action and character development that kept me engaged.For my wife, Frieren is cute and she likes elves and magic and shit. It's a good combination.
>>285761512It's for children.
>>285761512it's the mythical hybrid series that every studio dreams of
>>285761720Not really women just eat up any mainstream shonen series
>>285762932I just want to say that the "obsessive female fan market" is really a minority. Same as with the creeps that like precure. It's still a little girls anime.
>>285761891That's not female "fantasy" that's reality. Fantasy would be if Chad/Himmel begged her to come back after a few years apart, or if she would up with an even bigger gigachad.
>>285761691Fuck you, I hate this shit series and the character designs.
>>285763433Gay
men because elfwomen because Himmel
>>285763433ok I take it back based dubs-faggot
>>285761891She didn't say she can do better
>>285761512More of a male one that a female one.
It's for dudes because of all the fine ass.
>>285762108>>285761890I agree with this guy, I also watch it with my wife and she loves it. It has cute but not overly sexualized girls, likeable characters, a hint of romance and lots of character interactions.
>>285761512It's a gay franchise.
How come nobody told me that there was a new anime season AND that it has this anime-only scene?
>>285764932Because we don't care about whale hunting videos.
Definitely targeted towards females.
It’s clearly a feminist franchise because you have a purple-haired bitch with fat tits, yet not a hint of fanservice. Not in the anime, not in the manga, nothing. I’m not asking for much; just a scene where she’s in a bra would be enough. It doesn’t have to be some forced onsen episode or beach episode. If you’re a good writer, you can fit the tits into the story without it feeling forced. The writers clearly know what they’re doing, and yet there are zero purple-haired bitch tits to be found. Not anywhere. Hence, feminist franchise.
>>285764146>men because elf>women because HimmelThis. Although women love Frieren as well for being a cute dork that can turn into a badass.Dudes like Himmel as well for being an absolute chad.
>>285761512Why is Frieren so popular in general, i like it quite a bit and it's comfy but the insane notoriety and praise it gets on normalfag places like reddit and MAL is bonkers. it's good but is it really greatest of all time status?
>>285765793Normalfags care about two things, budget and first impressions. Frieren does both incredibly well.
>>285765793>Why is Frieren so popular in general,It’s not, at least in Japan. It’s been made out to be way bigger than it actually is. Actual Japs just don't care for this show all that much.
>>285765873Then why is it so popular overseas?
>>285764677Golden Kamuy is 60% female in Japan? I never would have guessed.
>>285761891I will tell you for free that the female fantasy is a hot guy who is also kind and loving.
>>285761512>>>/r9k/
>>285765975Right, and sometimes it's a hot guy who is neither kind nor loving. And sometimes it’s a hot sociopath who wants to ruin her life, or a hot guy that views her as a breeding vessel.
>>285765925Fujos anon. They're still a powerful force.
>>285765884Big influx of newfags after lockdowns.Most newfags only know about battle shonen.Seeing something with good production values that isn't battle shonen and is so disconnected from the "offensive" parts like fanservice blew their fucking minds.
>>285766243Maybe for some that's a sexual fantasy, something to pretend. But in reality that's the yawning chasm of despair every woman is trying to avoid tripping into. "Red flags", etc.
>>285761512>but also a lot of isekai tropes that are popular with menSuch as?
>>285761512Female. It's not an isekai, it's a romantasy.
>>285761512it's fair to presume that any anime th s popular probably appeals to both
>>285766529They don't trip into the chasm; they dive in headfirst to get to the hot guy, and then suddenly develop 20/20 hindsight after.
>>285766685Tell that to the most popular anime franchises in history. Almost all of which are shonen titles. You know, "shonen"? The word that literally translates to "boy"?
>>285766582elves
>>285765873>It’s not, at least in JapanCitation required.
>>285761512it's for gays
>>285764932Fern having anything but a granny-bra is OOC
>>285767044I am not gay
>>285761512luv me elf, simple as
>>285766932>they called it a "shonen" therefore girls don't watch ityou don't actually believe this
>>285764932Describe her expression in the last panel.
>>285767308>"But I know at least one girl who watches Shonen, therefore the audience can't possibly be overwhelmingly male!" >You must be an actual woman. No guy would be this statistically illiterate.
>>285761720Lol. Lmao even. basically any shonen.. just make characters look very gay.
>>285761512It's definitely for men but some women enjoy it
>>285761512trans franchise <3
>>285767764might as well claim no men watch mahou shoujo either.
