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The strongest Archer.
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Well then, safe to say that the latest episode is the strongest one so far. Really good direction and animation, definitely a contender for the most well-made episode this season, which is saying a lot.
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>>285886078
Good job not using an image related to the anime dbsfag
kys
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>>285886078
>woooooow the counter force gave you a world-class saint graph and suddenly you're stronger than me wowwwwww
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>solos all of FSF
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>>285886212
"oh hey thanks"
>thanks to the connection of Death, all his skeletons and cerberi now have MEoDP
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Honestly I think Gilgamesh is the raw strongest Archer but he's just so fucking retarded he will lose to much weaker people. It doesn't matter how directly powerful Gilgamesh is because he will do a quadruple axle into a backflip to grasp defeat from the jaws of victory, no matter what.

He could beat any Servant in a minute if he took this seriously, but that's true of him and literally everyone who ever beat him, too.

He really canonically has precog but if he sees anything he dislikes he ignores it. Which means he SAW Ishtar, his nemesis, grab his Gate of Bablyon key that he left in the ground, use it to screw him over in his moment of need- and still left it in the ground for her to do all of that. His actual personal strength doesn't matter, he'll blunder it all away regardless.
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Did you know that Hippolyta looks like Saber because Rin did her hair like that?
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Anime only here and have no fucking clue what is going on in this show. The direction is good but it only mitigates the nonsense of the breakneck pacing at best.
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>>285886407
This is like, the eighth chapter of a franchise you decided to tune into.
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>>285886619
>implying I haven't read or watched anything else from the franchise
I only meant I haven't read the SF light novels.
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>>285886407
They made a grail war to make ANOTHER grail war because somehow it would save energy
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>>285886407
Yeah they're rushing the fuck out of it, 24 episodes for the whole thing was a mistake.
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>>285886407
Nothing is happening. It's a war were nobody dies. There is no plot or story, just bullshit after bullshit.
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ayuka
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>>285890854
dumb nerd, built to be bullied
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>>285890854
Peak femaly beauty that seduce kings.
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How do you think it should end?
What do you think the ending will be?
Which servant/master will win?
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>>285890854
nerd
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>>285890903
She eats in excess.
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real thread for non retards
>>285886180
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>>285890906
No one will win. As always.
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LOL
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>>285886078
We all love to see it. Total Gilfag death.
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Ayaka is made for sexless japanese femcels to self-insert
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>>285886407
There's too much lore. I'm watching with a friend and she seems lost on all the references.
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>>285890906
The FINAL volume? But literally nobody has fucking died? How he gonna wrap this shit up in one Volume?
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why are some retards so intimidated by gilgamesh of all people?
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>>285891103
>gentle doormat with a forgotten tragic past and hidden superpower
>manic dream pixie king
yeah
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>>285890906
>Waver's class pacifies Thia. Flat is actually alive, and now they share. Now Thia is another member of the class. Jack is also alive inside Flat
>Police officers are still alive and defending their country
>Sigma becomes a servant and finds a purpose. He disappears with Assassin, promising to meet again (Fgo collab)
>Ayaka finally accepts that she is a master and is welcomed into Waver's class
>The only one who dies is Jester
>Enkidu and Gil alter leave after fighting
>Alcides goes to the world of fgo and Hippolyta pursues him
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>>285891185
>intimidated
Nobody is afraid of the King of Jobbers. He's a joke, you are supposed to laugh at him. He's the Naoya Zenin coded character of Fate.
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>>285891238
Sigma is definitely not becoming Ligma, he'll reject it and choose to live as a real person with his remaining time
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>>285891238
>Alcides goes to the world of fgo and Hippolyta pursues him
Isn't that world a fake one?
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When?
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>>285891328
>Eumenes
I actually thought it was Waver.
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>>285891328
What would the horse NP even be?
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>>285891165
Richard not looking so fast here.
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>>285891295
Archer Herakles would have died to Gilgamesh in the first encounter.
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>>285891346
Wait how was Fate Zero rushed?
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>Hey Sigma how did you meet your wife?
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How did Shiki allow this to happen?
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>>285886142
Both Orion and Gilgamesh are in this anime.
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>>285891423
he wouldn't have attacked him like that either
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>>285891602
True enough, what would he even do in this war then? Ayaka, Sigma, Flat and maybe even Francesca are all enemies he wouldn't fight.
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>>285891640
probably fight the ones attacking them
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Here's how Gil can still win.
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Tine, where is my face?
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>>285891640
He wouldn't attack Tine either, Herk mentally is pretty useless in a HGW.

>>285891659
Why did he even answer the call if he's not gonna fight to win the Grail?
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>>285891706
FUCK that, how do his hips work? Why is he built like a bionicle?
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>>285891423
according to who?
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>>285891640
He can fight their servants.
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>>285891706
Budget for EP4 seemed way lower than for other chapters for some reason. Especially shitty looking compared to the previous chapter.
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>>285891760
Did he remember Illya when Bazdilot ordered to remember everyone? Would have been kino if he remembered what Gil did in UBW, I think that could lead to the same fight Alcides and Gilgamesh had.
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>>285890906
I hope he will finish Baccano after this.
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>>285886078
This kind of art always reeks of pettiness.
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>>285891873
>Narita
>finishing anything
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>>285886252
Archer Gil explicitly doesn't use Clairvoyance iirc, he has it he's just in fuck it we ball mode
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>>285891487
Fate/Zero is just fast, I believe because it was by Urobuchi it was written with an anime adaptation in mind as well
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Gilgamesh is a cool guy sometimes
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>>285886252
Gilgamesh kept his special clairvoyance sealed though. Even his kid version don't like to use it much.
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>>285892663
Gil's clairvoyance is like everything else about him - hacky and inconsistent. He never had it as a skill in FSN, but there were still several moments where he had insight to things at a glance like Sakura in HF. He was barely a character in the original VN, but his popularity made every other writer and fate project want to include him. Every new appearance piles on ever more bullshit to his character that doesn't track with previous summonings.
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>>285886252
If Gilgamesh want to win, he technically would have infinite scaling with the ability to 4X strat to snowball out of control, especially with self-evolving AI/computer. And better yet, do all that without anybody being able to detect it until it is too late.

Except, Gilgamesh's mode of operation lets anybody with a plan to blindside him.
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>>285890906
I just hope masters and servants finally start dying, even freaking Fate Aphocrypha distributed the casualties of the war in a better way
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>>285891487
The fact that they cut the entirety of Lancelot's backstory, Saber's deal with the counter force, Gilgamesh's refusal to be corrupted has left irreparable damage to people's perception for these characters to this day.
They also cut a lot of shit in other key scenes as well
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>>285891328
Hephaistion (True) looks like this but male
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>>285891250
>nobody
>this is why i constantly bringing him up everytime i breathe trying to convince people that the canonical loser in black armor or whatever proxy i'm using is better
obsession is unhealthy
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>>285886407
The plot is easy enough to follow but there are too many characters, fate zero had just enough and the consultation room helped to catch on the lore.
Here you have 6 fake servants + true servants, a bunch of supporting cast and new servant classes
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>>285886901
It doesn't make any sense to me either.
Shouldn't the second grail war start after a few fake servants die and the grail absorbs them?
It would also help stagger the whole cast
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Oh, Altry as in Altaria or whatever that stupid-ass new name for Saber is.
Dammit.
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>>285891744
chains of heaven
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>>285892856
I think Nasu's recently started turning the narrative around and saying that Gilgamesh deliberately only uses as much power as he needs to barely overpower his opponents. At the beginning of every fight, he basically calculates in his head "I'll probably just need this much power to take this one down" and he commits to that calculation for the entire fight. There are times when he might use more or less power on a whim like when he decided to use Ea on Shirou to show off, but even if he does, he'll regret his decision and backtrack back to his original plan. So if you want to defeat Gilgamesh, you don't need to be stronger than him. You only need to surpass his initial calculation of your strength.

Subsequently, this means that in theory, almost anyone and everyone can beat him just so long as they end the fight a bit stronger than they were when they started. For instance, if at the beginning of the fight Gilgamesh decides "I'll only use this one sword to win and nothing else," all you need to do is be better than that one sword.
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>>285894647
>I think Nasu's recently started turning the narrative around and saying [HEADCANON]
Leave it to Gilfags to spout incorrect made up bullshit so confidently. Delusional.
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>>285894937
Explain his attitude in Fate/Samurai Remnant then.
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>NP stopped by an arm
>not even half strength
Why is Richard so weak?
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>>285895145
Enkidu is basically one of the most powerful Noble Phantasms in the world in a sense. You're not gonna beat him with even an A-rank Anti-Army Noble Phantasm. Trying to take him down with a twig is silly.
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>>285890906
Narita does not deserve any praise because he is an extreme procrastinator even before he started getting sick all the time
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>Nasu: Is constantly writing, but never actually what you want him to write.
>Narita: Releases like one book a year, never completes any of his serializations.
>Higashide: Constantly writing, but the quality of his work is hit-or-miss.
>Sakurai: Constantly writing, but most of what she writes is mediocre.
>Meteo: Doesn't write.

Which is worst?
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>>285895410
Nasu
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>>285895484
>Tsukihimefags hate Nasu because he won't release Red Garden
>Fatefags hate Nasu because he only writes for FGO
>FGOfags hate Nasu because he only writes like one story chapter a year. Events don't count. Also, reset ending.
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>>285895530
>Mahoyofags hate Nasu because no Mahoyo 2 and he spoiled future Mahoyo plotlines in FGO
>Kara no Kyoukaifags do not exist
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Andersen is basically Nasu's mouthpiece.
>Kiara and Mash: "MAKE LITTLE MERMAID 2"
>Andersen: "Why the fuck would I want to do that?"
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>>285895566
KnK is done, for once, so KnK fags are happy
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>>285894521
Dub says Altry but raw says Toria
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SENZAI-TENKI KYORAN NO AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
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The anime is making Enkidu look gayer
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>>285897220
Enkidu isnt a man
>>285895410
Whoever wrote requiem is the worst.
Narita also finished DRR. Not a sequel doesnt count
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>>285886407
Did you try watching an episode more than once?
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use magic to fix the window already you fucking bums
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>>285897220
He wasn't really that manly even before that.
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Is there no webm for the dog petting?
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>Rin can fix broken glass window with the wave of a hand
>Tine and Orlando just chill with the broken window
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>>285900615
Do people really?

I mean, I did with the Jester ep to rewatch the fight without distraction subs, but that's very much an exception.
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>circa 2009 youtube UI
SOUL
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>>285901301
Where has the time go...
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there does seem to be a "holy fuck we need to put as much information from the book as possible or the plot is going to be nonsense" in the way scene transitions happen with as few establishing shots and breathers as possible
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Orion
>A-a-artemis-sama, please fight instead of me so I could somewhat relevant because I can't do anything without you
Gilgamesh
>GIVE ME YOUR BEST WEAPONS YOU FUCKING CUNTS OR I WILL FUCKING KILL YOU!!! *throws bull's penis into Ishtar's face*
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>>285901375
>Orion
fucks a super hot woman
>Gilgamesh
is gay
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>>285901419
>became gay because he fucked so many hot women that he got tired
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>>285901440
>became gay because a guy kept up with him in a fist fight once
>jobs every other time he shows up in the series (therefore upscaling to LGBT+ mega aids with each defeat making Gil gayer)
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>Orion
>fucks a super hot woman
>Gilgamesh
>is gay
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Where did Prillya’s anime end? Oath Under Snow?
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>>285900615
that's retarded. bad pacing is bad pacing.
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>>285901658
Wasn't monster Medusa an Avenger?
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>>285901707
You might be right. But I think this was actually a Berserker Rider combination or something of the sort.
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>>285901658
>>285901658
No, it ended in the middle of Illya, Miyu, and Chloe vs Darius, but before Chloe uses Kiritsugu's Origin Bullet.
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>>285901658
do you think that Illya has a cloaca in this form haha? maybe at the base of her tail? haha just asking that would be really weird haha
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>>285901749
Huh, that’s much later than I would’ve guessed. Unless I’m underestimating how much is after that (which I might be, these more recent chapters have blended together a bit for me). Thanks.
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If the cia is literally sacrificing thousands of lives, shouldn't their servant be way stronger since they are super charged with mana?
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Man, I wish Hiroyama had a consistent schedule.
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>>285901819
I love Redman so much!
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>>285901819
Agreed. As it stands, I doubt we’re getting any significant screentime after they (presumably) go back to their own dimension. Though I’m not sure they’ve even ever discussed how they’ll go about doing it, not sure if the Kaleidosticks can just do that.
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>>285901819
>>285901867
>what if we combine UBW and HF
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A years ago:
"Ha ha ha! Worm slut is doll! Shirou is gonna kill her once and for all and fuck Angelica!"
Now:
>Sakura gets saved
>Sakura saves Shirou by using rule breaker paralleling Shirou saving Sakura with Rule Breaker in HF
>Redman helps out
Kek.
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>>285902052
What episode of strange Fake is this
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>>285902072
A strange fake episode
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You guys have too much faith in this anime, I have a strong feeling they're only doing this to promote the LN and that's it. No S2 never
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>>285902052
I only read Prillya last year, so I hadn’t followed what the threads said about it. I don’t mind Sakura getting with Miyuverse Shirou, it feels sweeter than it did in HF. Though I have to say I’d like Angelica to get with him too. As long as Illyaverse Shirou gets with his true love, Sella.
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>>285902052
>Ha ha ha! Worm slut is doll! Shirou is gonna kill her once and for all
Kiritsugufags are retarded. Never listen to them.
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sakura had bugs inside her pussy and thats gross
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>>285902116
It's still pretty fun and decent show so that's ok. It's probably the last good thing that TM can adapt anyway.
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>>285901301
I didnt pick this up
Actually kino
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>>285902229
There's Redline, Requiem and Lost Einherjar
>inb4 good
Only Illya porn is good
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>>285901171
made for anal
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>>285891103
Duh
She's the female self insert and Sigma is the male self insert
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>>285891238
This is so dumb, but given how Durarara ended I actually believe you
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>>285902319
>Redline
I’m sure it’s good but I’m still bitter about Kohaku and Akiha’s removal
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>>285895530
I pray he never releases Red Garden. He shat all over the remake and seeing what his retarded ass does to the Far Side will legit kill my soul
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Tsukihime if it was good:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>285902319
They aren't really good, especially fucking Requiem, holy shit.
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I win every fight.
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>>285902666
redline is just as good as strange fake
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>>285902686
Reported for off topic. Everyone in Fate is a jobber.
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>>285902686
john WINgard-sama…
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>>285901301
I didn't notice that. Good catch.
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>>285901355
I can dig it. Gives the sense like we're seeing this from The Watcher's perspective, almost like swapping between the feeds from security cameras
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>>285897220
uh, that's the point bro...
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>>285902843
to me it feels a bit like anime compilation movies
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>>285902869
more like an AMV
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>>285902638
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>>285895145
Its a guy that Narita says "Will always be inferior to arthuria in all ways, because all FSF servants are designed to be weaker than FSN servants" vs one of the strongest servants equal to gilgamesh.
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Cute retards
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How do you think Obama is being informed of the Grail War situation in Snowfield with Fatdeuce?
Was it a Bush administration plan that carried over to his?
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>>285903013
He's superior to Seiba because he isn't a woman
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>>285903090
this destructive retardation has bush written all over it
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>>285902706
It's mid at best and hard-carried by the mangaka and his very cool style. I can agree that F/SF isn't perfect either, but it way much more fun.
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>>285903090
They had been preparing Snowfield for at least 70 years, putting this in FDR's term.
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>the cia is only sacrificing 1000 criminals a day to amp their servant
The US prison system is notorious over crowded they should be tripling those numbers.
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>>285903161
That's the mafia, not the CIA. The CIA is sacrificing the entire fucking city of 800,000.
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>>285891184
>The FINAL volume? But literally nobody has fucking died? How he gonna wrap this shit up in one Volume?
Have you see ANY of the othe franchises he made? The author loves large casts and just refuse to kill people. One of his first franchise was about a literal group of immortals, just so he didn't have to kill anyone.
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>just watched the ep
Richard is kakkoii...
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>>285891597
wait Brorion will appear here?
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>>285903376
he already appeared
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>>285903376
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>>285903168
Man what the FUCK is wrong with the glowies?
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>>285901510
Actually Artemis is a virgin goddess. Apolo prevented their carnal union.
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>>285903433
why do you keep posting AIshit
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>>285903398
nta but was this orion drawn before we got the ugly fuck from fgo?
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>is the True Lancer
What changes?
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>>285903287
Hercules used "D*** Slap", it's super effective.
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>can turn anything he touches into Durandal
Can he be a match for Richard's Excalibur?
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>>285903482
Hippolytta fainted, she looked very happy....
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>>285903398
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Can Gojo beat any servants in FSN
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>>285903537
>can jobber beat any servants
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>>285903466
A couple years before, for the manga.
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>>285903545
He asked about Gojo not Gil btw
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>>285903537
cursed arm
altria
medusa
medea (maybe)
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>>285903398
oh so its technically a younger Orion?
>shadows
and also not really Orion

sucks I really want Super Orion animated shenanigans
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>>285903553
I know
both are jobbers
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>>285903168
Based
>>285903410
Absolutely nothing, Faldeus Dioland (very American name) will successfully privatize the Third Magic and America WILL conquer the world
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>>285903466
Super Orion got his face changed by Artemis so he can’t cheat on her
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SF Orion is the canon to me I do not acknowledge that fat hog
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>Takeuchi's Noble Phantasm is Unlimited King of Knights (無限の騎士王, Mugen no Kishi Ō?) - "The mind of a human who pursues the blonde-haired female knight he adores until the utmost limit. Employing all his skills, an infinite number of characters similar to Saber will be given life. A great delusion that erodes the stance of the company."
>Nasu's origin would be "Games" and his Reality Marble, Neverland Overdrive (ネバーランド・オーバードライブ, Nebārando Ōbādoraibu?), which is a world where he can play games forever without aging. Unfortunately for him, there is sometimes a devil called "deadline" that enters.
>Urobuchi is noted for his Reality Marble, Dead End Catharsis: Heaven & Hell Drop (地獄極楽おとしデッドエンド・カタルシス?), which lowers the luck of all characters in his stories by one rank, but the effect is lessened somewhat in Fate/Zero due to the "Kinoko Dimension" also taking place in Fuyuki. It lowered the effect, making it so all those who can survive will definitely live, a very reasonable, considerate measure that happens very rarely in Urobuchi's world.
I miss when Nasu would create some nonsense NPs to give to his bros
Higashide, Sakurai, Meteo, etc don't have this kind of privilege
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>>285903537
if we're going by powerscaling logic that systems are interchangeable then any shonen anime character with magic can beat servants
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>>285903617
SEIBA NO
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>>285903617
saber's face always makes me laugh
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>>285903647
All the type-moon "shocked" faces make me laugh, I think it's the perspective. Gilles, Kirei, and Agravain in particular have to be my favorite weird expressions.
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>>285903666
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>>285903692
heh, good one.
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Really great episode. I like Richard. Did the anime skip over anything in the manga?
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>>285903537
>infinity gg
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>>285903537
>Gets Cancer
What now Gojo?
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>>285903695
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Fragments anime WHEN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1QxjbZ0E5U
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>>285903732
When it gets rewritten from scratch by a competent writer
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>>285903746
Pretty sure with an anime, there wouldn't be any third persion POV descrbing Manaka's perfection so the story wouldn't drag on
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>>285903732
Its only a matter of time since the franchise will never die and they’re slowly working through everything
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>>285903537
He stomps all of them except Cu and maybe Gilgamesh
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>>285901674
What's retarded is you talking about the quality of the show. I'm saying that if you didn't understand something watching the first time, why not watch the second time for clarity?
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>>285903880
CUCHADS WE BEAT GOJO
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Pussies are just small dicks
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>>285886078
Are Orion fags still mad Gil got the grand Archer spot?
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>>285903951
>yet another saber jobbing antifeat
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>richard watching ayaka sleep
CREEP
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Instead of Hippo, I want a full on Heracles vs. Alcides in volume 10
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>>285901867
Kinda funny that Hiroyama make Archer finally give a shit about Sakura in the manga.
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>>285891370
Look at his name and take a guess.
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>>285903486
He RAN
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Does Hippolytta like Herc or something? I thought he killed her in myth?
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>>285904014
He killed her due to Hera's malfeasance so Hippolyta doesn't worry too much about that.
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>>285904052
Well, Penth does
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>>285904052
Huh, that's nice I guess. I now wonder what will happen to them after strange fake end
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>>285904014
She wanted to fuck him, but Hera ruined it
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do japs even know that their interpretations of the greek myths are so popular in the western part of the fanbase
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>>285903537
I wonder how Caladbog's space twisting power would interact with infinity.
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>>285903478
Richard rapes her when he stumbles on her at the house.
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How would Achilles fare if he's summoned in Snowfield?
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>>285904014
He has killed a lot of women and children.
And poisoned a lot of people
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I've read both VNs a decade ago. Ask a primary anything.
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>>285903537
Most of them can do something about magic and all you need is magic cancelation of some kind and Gojo sucks dick. So there's plenty who probably don't have a way around it, but magecraft is such in Fate that lots of them between themselves and their masters would be able to work around the only thing keeping him from getting instantly dumpstered.
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>>285901941
Kino
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>>285904085
I'm pretty sure they fucked before Hera ruined it
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>>285903537
A big chunk of FSN servants have ways of bypassing his infinity.
Only unga bunga retards like Herc and Saber would get fucked by it.
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>>285904091
Loses to Gil, Enkidu, Alcides, Huwawa, Pale Rider, True Assassin, and True Caster. Everyone else loses to him
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Sane Heracles is NOT a good servant to summon if you want to win a HGW
No, you will still lose even if you are a good person because this dumb greek hero only thinks of this ritual as sports so he will just screw around, fighting heroes here and there and then dying as if he just got a good vacation
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>>285903504
This is what peak female performance looks like.
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>>285904148
But ancient greeks took their sports very seriously.
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>>285903537
as other's said, depends on the servant, I assume reality amrbles bypasses his bs to some extent and then there's Cu with a time traveling lance, or Medusa/Gorgon that can probably insta petrify him
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>>285904148
>hurr durr I want to exchange sword technique with GARCHER
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>>285904014
Herc is like original superman, probably the most famous greece hero. Every greece woman would want to spend a night with him.
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>>285902152
What happens if Sakura's my waifu but Kiritsugu is just like me fr fr?
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Id summon a lancer because thats the coolest class.
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>>285904231
Same. They’re badass
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>>285904224
This is after Penth and her dumb folks attacked Herc, making him misunderstand that Hippo never had the intention to keep her promise btw
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>>285904148
What's the best "just following orders" servants anyways? Karna?
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>>285904217
just cheat on her like Kiritsugu.
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>>285904217
You did what Shirou in HF did that Kiritsugu never could- grow the fuck up, be a man, save the person you love.
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>>285904250
>>285904251
The duality of man
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>>285904247
Karna is a mana black hole. Genuinely, if you just want a servant to follow you and don't care about their strenght. Wouldn't it be easier to just spin the Holy Grail roulette?
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>>285904247
Caster Cu
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>>285904256
the duality of man is two contrasting ideas residing in one person, not two different people having opposite opinions. everyone that uses it wrong is a retarded monkey. don't bother replying, just be glad you were educated and won't make this mistake again.
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>>285904266
Round Table fragment is also good
Just like Shishigou's case in Apo, the grail will choose the knight with the most suitable character for you
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>>285904247
If you're not comically evil: Solomon. Solomon will know if your intentions are bad for the world at a single glance, and if they are you get deleted on the spot, but otherwise he can put up with anything, saying "that's how humans are sometimes".
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I summon myself from the future where I already won the grail and used it to become the strongest
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>>285904320
it's an alternate you from another timeline who hate your guts
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>>285904320
whoops he killed you because he sees you as a disgraceful shadow of his current self and command spells don't work because he is the strongest
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>>285904182
Gilgamesh - anti-magic NP, bypasses/breaks infinity = ez win gg
Medea - Rule breaker negates infinity or other magic nonsense = ez win
Artoria + Shirou - No obvious way to win but Excalibur is frequently hax so it might just work through infinity to win
Hercules - No way to win himself but magecraft from Illya could stop Gojo and then crush him Basaka
Kojiro - No way to win himself so easy win for Gojo
Medusa - If she uses her mystic eyes infinity doesn't matter so he loses to that
Cu - Gae Bolg breaks causality. It probably cares about range, but Gojo's other ability is foresight to know when to be activating infinity and Gae Bolg negates that so infinity would be activated too late/with the wrong timing. Probably a cheap shot win for Cu.
Redman - Could trace an NP with anti-magic properties and just shoot him like Gil can.
Hassan - Zabinya is a curse that doesn't strictly care about range or contact so infinity or future sight doesn't protect against it. Its a bit slow though and Hassan is relatively a shitter, so its possible Gojo can just beat him outright without him having a chance to use it. His presence concealment and such should be countered by six eyes so he can't get a stealth kill on Gojo. A bit of a toss up if Gojo jerks himself off and lets Hassan curse his nuts off.
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>>285903885
When I said I had no clue what was going on, that was hyperbole, faggot. I can grasp what's happening. But no amount of rewatches is fixing how the show rushes from plot beat to plot beat while trying to cram what's clearly several volumes of setup and lore into a single episode.
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tine sex
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>>285904363
>Zabinya is a curse that doesn't strictly care about range or contact
It does care about contact, he has to grasp the air in front of your chest. At least very close to it.
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>>285904148
>Heracles visited the house of Admetus on the day Admetus's wife, Alcestis, had agreed to die in his place. Admetus, not wanting to turn Heracles away, nor wanting to burden him with his sadness, welcomes him and instructs the servants not to inform Heracles of what has occurred. Heracles, thus unaware of Alcestis's fate, enjoys the hospitality of Admetus's house, drinking and revelling, which angers the servants, who wish to mourn as is their right. One scolds the guest and Heracles is ashamed of his actions. By hiding beside the grave of Alcestis, Heracles was able to surprise Death when he came to collect her, and by squeezing him tight until he relented, was able to persuade Death to return Alcestis to her husband.
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>>285886729
I only watched the fate stay night and zero anime, the fgo anime, and el meloi and i understand everything that is happening. Maybe youre a slow unc
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>>285904346
I just realize that since throne of hero exist outside of time, he doesn't paradox himself.
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>>285904389
JUSTICE FOR HADES
HERC A SHIT
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>>285904388
It doesn't. it creates a mana copy once activated, at that point distance to you doesn't matter, distance to the copy does. Infinity will make sure you never reach Gojo, but doesn't mean anything to a heart created in front of him even if that heart is now effectively an infinite distance apart from his real body due to infinity.
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>>285904405
nigger that's the entire plot of UBW
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>>285904430
Yeah I know. Took me a few seconds to think of that.
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>>285903151
redline isnt as fun as strange fake mostly because FSF has no main team protagonist, all of them have equally relevance in the bigger scheme of the novelsand the events are unpredictable, the problem as many other narita works is that their characterization is superficial, only key elements and thats all, im not saying this is bad because he knows how to make it work always anyway; the main selling point of redline is the art and the strong characterization of the main trio, oda nobunaga and the rest of the servants and it thanks for how dynamic is the storytelling of the mangaka, he tells you alot with his art

between fsf and redline manga, redline manga wins by a stadium
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>>285904440
Did redline have a hiatus?
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>servant is not a little girl
not interested. grail wars are a scam for retards.
>servant is a little girl
I will now summon your servant
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>>285904424
>it creates a mana copy once activated, at that point distance to you doesn't matter, distance to the copy does.
.. okay but to activate it he has to reach his cursed hand in front of your chest. If he can't DO that then he doesn't get a copy. Saber parried his hand in HF and her heart was fine.
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>>285904452
all type moon manga schedule are fucking trash dude, it took a decade for fate extra manga to show tamamo background
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>>285904461
What if my servant is a faceless monstrosity pretending to be a little girl
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>>285904461
That's a birb.
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>>285904492
Heaven's Feel manga is pretty consistent
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Abi sex series when
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>>285904091
>>285904133
You're underestimating Alcides. He'd go further than Hippolyte, who is inferior to him in every way. What the hell would Assassin, Caster or Huwawa even do to him?
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>>285903424
>Actually Artemis is a virgin goddess. Apolo prevented their carnal union.
Amusingly, Alexandre Domas in real life wrote in his Count of Monte Christo that Eugénie resembled Artemis, which was a way to imply she was a lesbian.
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What are the 3 monsters supposed to be? The Dead Apostle, Pale Rider, and who else?
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>>285904710
>yuritard mutt nigger
holy fuck it's like an /a/ poster
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>>285904732
the grail mud?
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>>285904732
Enkidu is not human right?
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>>285904732
Alcides who is surging with mud.
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>>285904732
Grail mud in general but Alcides' camp is that personified
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>>285904752
He's a god construct who gained "humanity" after touching grass and having sex
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Can Gil beat this version of Kirei?
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>>285904775
>broly
He is an even bigger jobber than gil
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>>285904783
Nasu compared Gil to Bejita, so Gil is a bigger jobber
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>>285904733
>holy fuck it's like an /a/ poster
I have no idea what you are talking about. Doumas is just a Frenchman writing French things, like Beppo the pretty boy dressed as a girl to kidnap people for ransom, and a lesbian aristocrat running away with her lover after two failed arranged marriages.
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>>285903424
>2nd most prolific mortal fucker after Zeus
>got mad his sister is trying to score
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Did FGO's story went too TypeMoon and too little Fate?
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>>285904840
more like its own direction.
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>summon servants that knew each other irl
>they keep circle-jerking and talking about each other every scene
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>>285904840
It ruined the franchise
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>>285904849
Would you really say that with how much stuff straight from Tsukihime and Melty Blood in had in Part 2?
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What's so bad about the Pale Rider? That formidable of a foe?
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>>285904752
>Enkidu is not human right?
Brozen age deities decided that humanity is too up themselves and created a hitman to bring them down. A priestess gave it the fucking of its life for several days none-stop and that tamed it enough to wear clothes and stop being an animal. Post nut clarity i guess. (this is real life lore, so technically a man)

In the Fate world he doesn't have a gender and took on the shape of the priestess after interacting with her. Whether they fucked was left out of the details. In Fate the imitation was just the face and there was no organs downstairs.
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>>285904864
I thought you mean vibe.
Yeah, I agree if it's lore autism.
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>>285904865
He's the incarnation of every pandemic and literally one of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.
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>>285904852
Being BFF is quite literal between these two.
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>>285886078
He's not even the strongest archer in Greece
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>>285904440
I really appreaciate cool art from manga but I just can't care less about any of the character. It's not bad, but overall it's just whatever, very ordinary.
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>>285904876
>He's the incarnation of every pandemic and literally one of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.
And what with Grail Mud bringing out the worst of every Servant, it makes sense that it mixing with Death plus the power of the Grail can cause an extinction event.
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>>285904840
It's the best that they could make for a gacha game where hundreds of characters would lusts MC who is as blank as you can make him. They tried to make different games, but they are also kinda suck. Nowadays I'm more hyped about big FGO collabs or story chapters rather than Extra remake or another musou game.
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>>285904956
I wonder what their soul-like game would end up like.
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>>285904852
I've never seen Gil more chill and honestly more gentle and nicer to his master than here.
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>>285904976
Gil absolutely hated Rin's dad, had some respect for Kirei but ultimately he was just entertaining
He probably has a soft sport for children under all that, and he loves to inspire his subjects so there's that,
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>>285904907
Is that what they suspect is the goal or just that it becomes a possibility?
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>>285904997
Enkidu thinks it can happen. It's definitely not anyone's goal, Death only wants what Tsubaki wants.
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Did he acknowledge Richard?
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>>285905018
He gave Richard a "passed the qualifier" rating.
He tests Richard in his own way later but the results were interrupted.
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>>285905018
>cut Gil acknowledging Alcides, who he actually fought
>keep this slop in
pozzed adaptation
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>>285905057
Herc getting shafted should be the norm now
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>>285905057
Nobody cares about kekcides
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>>285904865
He is extremely dangerous, but he's lacking of self-consciousness yet. Because his master is a little girl with zero life experience he doesn't even know what to do. Under any adult master he would instantly more dangerous, also he can probably evolve into something with more personality.
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>>285905057
Alcides doesnt acknowledge Gil either. It evens out
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>>285905057
They cut Alkeides calling Gil strong too, so it's only fair
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Why are there so many Gilgameshfags? I thought 4chan hates him.
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>>285905098
He showed some personality at the end of Vol. 6, with how even he was flabbergasted at Tsubaki's order.
Poor girl had a rough life
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>>285905157
Everyone loves gilgamesh
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>>285904997
>Is that what they suspect is the goal or just that it becomes a possibility?
The lore made it clear that Earth can only handle power level of these characters to a certain point. For example, apparently true demons exist but they will never be an advisory because Earth wouldn't hold itself together in such a conflict. The issue with Grail Wars is that you create powerful characters who, under the right conditions, can endanger human survival on Earth itself. Since the Throne of Heroes was created to begin with to protect Earth, that is definitely something to worry about.

One example is if Quetzalcoatl wasn't nerfed in her story arc and used her ultimate move at full power, it would have damaged the Earth's climate at best and caused Evangelion 3rd Impact level damage at worst.
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>>285905257
he has big Princess Tutu energy
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>>285905257
He's living up to King Arthur's example.
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>>285904976
>I've never seen Gil more chill and honestly more gentle and nicer to his master than here.
Tia is literally 12. Even Abraham's god would think that is too young. Tina is a literal child in any culture and timeline and not just metaphorically. A child soldier in a way as she was willing to die for the cause. She just doesn't realise the innocent people SHE will need to kill if she follows through her clan's wish. Can she truly kill innocents?
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>>285905330
>>285905257
Hotel Transylvania ass legs
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JUST
LIKE
ALLLL
THEEE
REEEEEEEST
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enkidu vs thia when?
easily the biggest fight in SF
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>>285904380
I think the only episode that did this was episode 0 and that shit was double length.
None of the lore really matters, the character's goals and ideals are all neatly expressed
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>>285904380
>When I said I had no clue what was going on, I was lying
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>>285905473
I don't understand their dishonesty. Just say exactly what you mean lmao. If it's hard to follow and you really cared, nothing stops you from watching it again. The anime having 2fast pacing is agreeable but another matter altogether.
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>>285905495
some people have been groomed to care more about "being right" in the moment than "possessing all the facts" going forward
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>>285886278
And I thought it was just fate slop being fate slop
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>>285886278
Rin is a just horny.
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>>285905708
SF is fate kino. It precedes FGO, I think.
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>>285902439
>Kohaku and Akiha
Blame Nasu and his autism.
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Why is this old man showing his underwear?
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>>285903520
>Captain Ahab is a top-tier Servant b-because I said so
Everyone and their mother is convinced that their OC Servant deserves to be a 5-star super-meta unit
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>>285906036
What do I have to watch to see this character?
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>>285903537
The first boss fight of FSN is a dude with a spear than bend reality to strike your heart.
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>>285886252
>he will do a quadruple axle into a backflip to grasp defeat from the jaws of victory, no matter what
Can't wait to see Ilia miss the gold.
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>>285906094
Still less bullshit than Nemo
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I think the reason Gilgamesh pisses people off so much is because a lot of weebs are powerlevelfags and a super-strong guy who consistently refuses to use his full power (except in literally two specific instances) and loses fights that he statistically should have one is probably the most frustrating thing in the world to them. They look at Gilgamesh, his idiosyncrasies, and it fills them with a deep sense of revulsion. People cannot stand that a character like Gilgamesh is allowed to exist, and it fills them with even more disgust that this guy is actually popular.
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>>285891423
Archer Herakles would've tricked Gilgamesh into a bad situation that would've been enough to barely win.
Remember, Herakles is known for 3 things:
Being really strong, being really smart and getting really angry.
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>>285906223
Nemo may be 5-star, but I assure you that he's not meta. The only real reason he's a 5-star is the same reason Da Vinci's 5-star: he's a major character in Chaldea. Every Servant with an affiliation with Chaldea is either a 5-star or, in the case of Mash, eventually becomes a 5-star. No exceptions. So in this case, 5-star is just meant to show that these guys are narratively important. In-universe, most of them aren't that strong at all. Nearly all of them lose more than they win and their stats reflect that.

Giving Ahab, an autistic old man who hates a whale, upper-tier stats, with B+, A and EXes across the board on all their skills is extreme. Also let's be real, very few people are gonna devote three hundred quartz to roll for him.
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>>285906276
Gilgamesh has very similar feats to Herakles. Herakles is not the cleverest hero ever. Yes, he was clever, but most of the greatest mythological heroes were. Odysseus was just as clever as Herakles. So was Theseus. Pretty much every Greek hero worth their smart was every bit as smart as Herakles.
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>>285895566
>Kara no Kyoukaifags do not exist
I am extremely happy that Shiki's role is entirely "look, it's Shiki, remember her?"
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>>285906341
and then Nasu added a cuck joke into it.
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>>285906341
I almost don't expect her to be the MONSTER of Extra Record.
I actually expect Vlov to replace her.
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>>285901260
Orlando is a hack and Tine would never deprive her king of the fresh spring breeze.
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>FGO is actually getting a part 3
Fate never dies.
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>>285906383
I don't think FGO can survive without Nasu adding a story or event chapter once a year. Like him or hate him but he's easily the best and most consistent writer on Type-Moon's staff. Higashide can pull out some bangers, but just as many snorefests.
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>>285906353
What?
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>>285906397
I mean part 2 didn't have a single chapter written by Nasu until LB6. He only did the Kirsch and Musashi scenes in LB5 before that iirc.
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>>285903537
He loses to everyone except Medusa.
Even fake assassin's tsubame gaeshi can piece his infinity.
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>>285906410
In the mahoyo collab, Aoko joked about Shiki cheating on her husband with Not! Shirou.
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>>285906410
Never forget
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>>285906421
Nasu wrote a number of events. Nasu has never gone an entire year without writing at least one thing for FGO. The events are just ignored because they're not mandatory story chapters.
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>>285904389
He's a good friend.
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>>285904389
Really surprised this doesn't end with Herc plowing the guy's wife as a reward or something
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>>285906489
Herc would never.
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>>285906326
Not true at all. Theseus was a moron of the highest order. Jason was also pretty stupid.
Among the Greeks, most of the time some God (usually Athena) would show up amd just say "you'rr in a bit of a pinch, huh? why don't you try this?"
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>>285906551
Get off 4chan medusa
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>>285906326
If Odysseus was half as clever as Heracles he wouldn't have taken 10 years to conquer Troy
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>>285906589
Athena literally handed Perseus the polished shield amd was like "hey man use this, I put the curse on her, so I know this is gonna work"
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>BROS HERACLES IS THE CLEVEREST EVER
>Heracles: so this lion can't be killed by normal weapons? What if I simply used by god-like strengh to strangle it to death?
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>>285906627
Counterpoint

(His wife)
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>>285906650
Biased source
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>>285906650
Some sea monster was literally about to eat her
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>>285906636
Based, he's truly the strongest and smartest
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>>285906650
His wife knows him better than anyone too.

And she is also Heracles' grandma, so I trust her over you
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>>285906636
Herc is so smart
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>>285906654
>Biased source
>When the other source of information until now was Medusa, seething so hard she just says Perseus is actually a successful Shinji
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>>285906410
To add more context of what the other anon said, it was an alternate version of Shirou who had his original surname intact and born in a different era that already having gone on an adventure similar to that of FSN.
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>>285906672
DAMN Herc’s Great Grandmom and Perseus’s wife looks like THIS?
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I always feel like people who want Herakles to be the smartest, strongest and most unbeatable entity kinda miss the point of him. No hero becomes a hero by doing everything on easy mode. The Twelve Labors were hard. And as difficult as they were, the entire reason why King Arthur and Gilgamesh were placed in the same tier is because their tasks were every bit as difficult as Herakles' Twelve Labors. Granted, neither Gilgamesh nor Saber had to clean up horse shit.
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>>285906672
>Fights with rocks
I guess Herc gets it from her
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>>285906732
>King Arthur and Gilgamesh were placed in the same tier is because their tasks were every bit as difficult as Herakles' Twelve Labors.
They really weren't. Both were buffed tremendously in deed and word for Fate, and still receive buffs to this day.
In terms of accomplishments and deeds in the real world on paper they can't compare to Herc.
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>Demeter announced in FGO
GreekGODS keep winning
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>>285906732
>The Twelve Labors were hard
They weren't for him, that's the point. Heracles is the smartest and strongest, because he did things that each would've been worthy of a hero's myth by themselves, without breaking much of a sweat.
Heracles' struggle is never in the things he does, he's that strong. All conflict in his myth comes from Hera looking for any opportunity to destroy him and his personal character flaws.
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>>285906750
They were as difficult in the context of Fate. Defeating Huwawa and Gugulanna was supposed to be a big deal.
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>>285906753
wake me up when Aphrodite is released
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Rimjobs from Aphrodite while Rinshtar milks my dick
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>>285906753
TRUST IVAN!
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>>285906753
I hope Persephone is with her somehow. Given how Persephone's death drove her insane, it'd be nice if they were a paired unit.
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>>285906786
That's certainly a design to give to Ivan the Terrible.
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>>285906840
It's the Lostbelt version's body. For some reason, Proper Human History Ivan got summoned with Lostbelt Ivan's Saint Graph. As a result, he's confused as to why he looks like this when he's first summoned.
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>>285906788
>they go with the normal version where Hades abducted her and is a shitty husband to make her for (You)
Make it happen and I'll become the biggest fgo shill you'll ever see
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>>285906945
Cringe waifunigger
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It's my belief that Hercfags would only really be satisfied by one thing: for Herakles to dominate a Holy Grail War or some other conflict, easily defeat every other hero (including Saber, Gilgamesh, Karna, any and all Grands), and be officially crowned the Greatest Hero in the World Without Equal.
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>>285907016
>Greatest Hero in the World Without Equal.
He already is though, that's why he's not allowed to appear properly
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>>285907046
He is not allowed to appear because Nasu doesn't care about him
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>>285906140
>Fate/Zero, Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works, Fate/stay night [Heaven’s Feel] Movie Trilogy, Lord El-Melloi II's Case Files, Fate/Grand Order - Absolute Demonic Front: Babylonia, Fate/Apocrypha, Fate/Prototype
But honestly you will be fine with just Fate/Zero and Fate/stay night routes. You might miss some references because this anime is basically a love letter to the nasuverse.
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>>285906723
CUTE
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>>285906997
Shut up retard Persephone has been my mythological waifu forever. They can make every female have a husband for all I care as long Persephone is for (me)
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>>285907016
You're not wrong.
>"Whenever Herc isn't on screen every other character should be asking: where's Herc?".
They're these type of people
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>>285906840
Он был хреновым царём.
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>>285906753
>Valentines servant
>finally release one of the Olympians
>it's Demeter instead of Aphrodite
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>>285907016
Why mention Karna? He's Achilles tier and thus a whole level below Saber or Gil.
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>>285907103
>also Tsukihime (VN) and Kara no Kyoukai (Movies)
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>>285907179
what was this thing again?
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>>285907188
How can Karna be a whole tier below Gil when a fight between them is a dead 50/50?



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