>Get criticism for having fanservice in your series>Make an entire chapter/episode calling them homosexuals and how fanservice is goodWhat level of based is Ohkubo on?
>>286415315Extremely gay
>>286415315>>Get criticism for having fanservice in your seriesby who? some retards on twitter?
>>286415315That’s fucking embarrassing.
Which was more embarrassing, the chapter with the strawman lady yelling at Tamaki or the JJK chapter where it was just responding to 2ch criticism?
>>286415315How about you translate some of that "lewdness" into your real life you faggot?
>>286415315>Make a literal "I drew you as the Basedjak and me as the Chad" manga chapter using your characters as mouthpiece responding to criticism of your succesful serializationI cringed, it was just too obvious
>>286415315That bitch is pure eye candy in the show with little to no relevance, so it was pretty cringe that she got used as a mouthpiece like I'm supposed to care about what her opinions are.
>>286415315Cringe and juvenile. Only his fanservice with tamaki was the problem it that's because it's so forced. No one had an issue with the other girls getting it.
>>286415315Very based and correct, it makes all the right "people" angry.
>>286415315Unbelievably based. More mangaka should do it.
>>286415315>Ignore them>Continue with the lewdBased.>Cared about Xwitter >Made a whole mini arc about it>RENT FREE>Me Chad, you virginCringe.
>>286416690But he was right on every aspect.
>>286415315This is equal parts based and cringe, perfectly in balance, as all things should be.
>>286415315I remember the threads when this shit happened in the manga lmfao
>>286415315Apex based.
>>286415315>calling them homosexualsEven better than that.He calls them jealous harpies.
>>286417403He made an argument absolutely nobody makes. I hate prude retards, but Twitter feminists arguments has never been "pretty women make ugly women feel bad!" vs muh sexualized minors or muh objectification. It was the equivalent of making an argument about a spelling mistake.
>>286419577>Twitter feminists arguments has never been "pretty women make ugly women feel bad!"The meta has certainly changed in the last 10 years but yes it absolutely was
>>286419577You seem uncomfortable.
My man assault should have scored.
>>286415315Holy Based
>>286415315he was right but executed it in the worst way possible
You know he hit the mark with how it wound up so many people. It has cooled down since the manga dropped, so now you see more >well maybe he had a point but he said it in a way I don't like so his point is lostBut damn, it has plenty of individuals (pointed avoidance of the word "people") jumping up and down and gnashing their teeth.
>>286420189Thinking something is bad doesn’t mean you’re mad, anon.
>>286420348Saying you aren't mad doesn't mean you aren't mad, anon.
>>286419690No, it wasn't.
>>286420778Are you young or just revisionist? The amount of times I've seen "it's disgusting and unrealistic and harmful that this company won't show people what real normal women look like"
>>286420778The main topic was, is, and seems to always be the argument that hot girls in any media are harmful, how? We'll never know, to who? That one is pretty clear.
>>286420912It's not even hot girls considering all the "she's so cunt" or "she served" or the "get that bag girl" etc. >>286420912With anime it has always been about "she's underage" and "objectification". It's intellectually dishonest to pretend the "unrealistic body standards" bit has been relevant for the past 5 years (it mostly died out because "it's the same for men").
>>286420912Fanservice is not the same as "hot girls". There's a difference between "this character is constantly embarrassed about her exposure and is drawn uncomfortably when she loses her clothes" and "this character looks sexy".
>>286419690I think this is a type of shitskin cope because this brown thing was always repulsed by females his age, so he has to cope by thinking that women are jealous of younger girls getting attention when in reality they are just trying to protect them from vile freaks
don't bother trying to keep track of all the fake reasonsthe truth is: YOU like fanservice, they hate YOU, therefore they oppose fanservice
>>286421030>no no no fanservice only means enf no one complains about anything but enf>>286421047>no no no fanservice only means underage no one complains about anything but underageit's so tiring
>>286415315I still don't understand why people keep missing the point of that this was about the Japanese mothers
>>286421047Ah yes, they are protecting the poor cartoon character
>>286421047I dont see the same complaints when people get brutally murdered in media.
>>286420976>>286421030I'm glad we agree and that the discussion abotu the topic is over, not sure what else you are trying to say but I'm not interested.
>>286421070>>286421083>>286421103ok SEApollutants
>>2864211274/10 bait would have been more convincing if you didn't drop to lowercase
>>286416649
>>286416649Chuds lookmaxx because they want to look hotGirls lookmaxx because they want to look hotHot = LewdnessNow go back to your cartel; taco hablante
>i worked really hard to maintain a body that looks like i never lifted a weight in my entire lifeare japs retarded?
>>286421269>he doesn't use an ice pack in the morning when his face is a little puffy>he doesn't use a deep pore cleanser lotion>he doesn't use a water-activated gel cleanser>he doesn't use a honey almond body scrub>he doesn't use an exfoliating gel scrub>he doesn't use an herb mint facial mask>he doesn't use an alcohol-free aftershave lotion>he doesn't use a moisturizer>he doesn't use an anti-aging eye balm>he doesn't use a final moisturizing protective lotion
>>286421269Yes, being hot requires dedication no matter how you spin it, now put down the burger.
>>286415315All he does is speak the truth. And if you’re seething you’re one of the faggots he’s shitting on
>>286421507Nah he was crashing out over twitter arguments and only served to prove they had a point
>>286421981In what way does getting baited prove they were right about any argument other than that he's fragile?
>>286422007Doing the whole "i'm the based chad and you're the crying basedjak" never convinces anyone that you're right, it only shows that you're seething and that the arguments had a point. If he had just ignored the haters then nobody would really care.And for most people they weren't annoyed at Tamaki's fanservice in and of itself, they were annoyed that her entire character was just the lucky sukebe shit and that whenever it happened the action ground to a halt so it could go HEY LOOK AT THE FANSERVICE!!. People just got sick of it. Nobody really complains about the other fanservice in the show.
>>286422032>Doing the whole "i'm the based chad and you're the crying basedjak" never convinces anyone that you're right,Correct>and that the arguments had a pointWhy are you doubling down without providing the slightest explanation for this nonsense? This is 80 iq herd mentality retardation.
>>286421081Yeah, this is targeting the PTA in Japan which is responsible for most of the complaints about and censorship in anime, not whatever western culture war bullshit people here think it's about.
>>286422091I literally explained it in the post, its not that the fanservice existed its that the way it was presented was obnoxious and got in the way of the actual action.
>>286415315is this why I've been seeing clips and screenshots of this show wherever I visit online lately. Is the show actually interesting for a shonenslop or is this like one rare moment ppl find it amusing.
>>286422105You said that reacting like a faggot proves that the opposition has a point, and then you explained that you agree with the opposition. Those are two completely separate arguments that you're desperately trying to link.
>>286422032Your mistake is assuming that the scene was about the FF haters and not about how repugnant radfems are in Japan: https://note.com/belllightnovel/n/n75bb5334185aSSo called strawman is on point.Also, before those chapters we got characters ranting about societal issues in the middle of fights too (Kurono vs. his doppelganger) and no one complained about it. It's obvious those Tamaki chapters got on peoples nerves.Also,>Fanservice ruins my fight scenesCutie Honey would give zoomers an aneurism.>But Cutie Honey doesn't take itself seriously!It actually does many times (like when Panter Claw killed Honey's friend in a very horrifying way and then we see Honey getting stripped against her will in the middle of combat against the ones responsible few chapters later and it's all played for laughs and titillation), and Fire Force doesn't take itself that seriously either.
>>286422339Got the link wrong: https://note.com/belllightnovel/n/n75bb5334185a
>is not about the fanservice!>by the way here I am complaining about the fanservice againUh huh.
>>286416599>>286416635>>286416690>>286419577go back to bluesky (or reddit) normalfags
>>286416635>You're only hating my manga because you're an ugly, old, hysteric hag!!!>YOU ARE SILLY!!!Nothing will beat Ohkubo, but I don't expect anything from him anymore after the absolute garbage that was soul eater Not
>>286415315I cringed. Despite not being bothered by his fanservice lewdness, by the way he put it and presented it now I see him as a sulky teenager, who wants to show, not in a smart way, how right he is.
>>286415315Two tamaki threads on the catalog kek but indeed, She's a good character with hot fanservice, maybe a little cringe but the whole point of shonen is to be cringe but free. If you disagree you shouldn't be watching anime, let alone be on this board. Respect Okubo taking an explicit shot at the anti-fanservice faggots that plague this medium today
>>286422863Quick question, did you get the point of the whole episode? Because it was very well structured in my opinion and Tamaki character development was the perfect fit for the conclusion. I see people talking only about the scene but the entire episode was a masterclass on storytelling.
>>286415315It's always bad to acknowledge haters, if only for the sole reason that you could have dedicated that time and effort to your fans instead.
>>286422901Yes, it's about nagging Karens and a will to express his lewdness, because it's freedom and sexuality is rooted in humans. But I couldn't stop being embarrassed from the moment the crowd gathered and they started shouting at Tamaki, like in some biblical story when they started throwing rocks at Jesus.
>>286422738Don't be such a baby
>>286422997Seems to reflect the themes like Shinra and Sho and... deep.
>>286422092Burgers are narcissist, they always think everything is about them, and that's why they elect a narcissist as their leader.
>>286419577>Twitter feminists arguments has never been "pretty women make ugly women feel bad!"I mean... I've never seen an attractive woman complaining about fanservice.
>>286415315ero queen
>>286419577WhatIt's been "it creates unrealistic standards that real women can never compete with!" shit all over since the beginning
>>286423007You are a normalfag who needs to go back
>>286416649Real life women will never look that good
>>286416649Smartest Gokike.
>>286415315The argument that completely destroyed the anti fanservice fags.
>>286425497That line is a bit off. They don't assume everyone has the same opinion, they assume anyone with a different opinion is morally and ethically wrong. Although you could stretch it to cover the fact that they assume everyone else on twitter is serious and not just virtue signaling.
>>286415315Ya know....if Fire Force had anything resembling of controversy or if content was a frequent target in Japan and not a few twitter trannies then I can see this as Ohkubo giving a Go Nagai troll response but then I realized...Fire Force is being published in a magazine who's primary demographic is college students, that has manga with frequent sex scenes and idol pinup covers and nothing in Fire Force is an explicit as pic related, Domestic Girlfriend, everything Seo has made and even fucking Fairy Tail so the thesis of the argument (being that Tamaki is harmful for children) makes no sense because nobody let alone kids read Fire Force and its not marketed to them so Ohkubo had to make up a literal strawman to avoid the issue with Tamaki being that she's a shitty character with an unfunny gimmick.
>>286425497
>>286415315Ohkubo is based
>>286419690This, it absolutely was used as an argument. It's all about people not feeling represented.
>>286416649You're a retarded beaner "muh lewdness" "muh based manga-ACK" filthy tourist. missed the entire goddamn point your 60iq author was actually trying to land. smartest gocuck fan. Go back to xitter, pinche chirigüillo güey.
>>286426385It's not just about Fire Force, brainlet. It's commentary against puritanical censorship in general.
>>286419577It was the argument about 10 years, but lately most women don't mind other women being sexy -- it's empowering. Ohkubo is swinging at ghosts here, which is why it's so funny/stupid. It's like james cameron crying about saving the whales in avatar 2 like it's still 1991
>>286416635What did the homo from JJK did?
>>286426597>It's commentary against puritanical censorship in general.Is the puritanical censorship here now Ohkubo?
>>286426597>It's commentary against puritanical censorship in general.Which again just shows how out of date and retarded his take is. This isn't the 90's anymore and again nobody is trying to censor this shitty shounen manga that kids dont read so I ask who the fuck is Ohkubo talking to?
Did someone link this thread on xitter or has this place really gone down the drain so badly?
>>286420976>It's intellectually dishonest to pretend the "unrealistic body standards" bit has been relevant for the past 5 yearsHalf this, half anime definitely left behind those times of waifus with booba bigger than her heads, Rias never will return, even Marin is a realistic teenager compared with 2010s waifus
>>286427059>who the fuck is Ohkubo talking to?I opened this thread, looked at the first replies, and there were 3 commenters angry at Ohkubo for fanservice LOLThat's who
>>286427059(You)
>>286416556by all the retards on twitter
>>286426417>batman avatar typing like a hood weeb>muh 17 years 11 months etc.into the trash it goes
>>286432259I don't get nu-anime fags who are so obsessed about the characters ages m
>>286421981Yes bitching and crying over fanservice makes sense but gore and murder is completely fine. You sound just as brain damaged as them
>>286416649>>286421127>>286426417Kill yourselves, retarded tourists.Stop giving any of these false equivalence faggots good faith arguments. >>286420189
>>286417039This honestly. I find OP's fanservice super cringe but at least Oda isn't berating me for not liking his shit. Moreover just because I don't like it doesn't mean I want him to stop. I'd rather he keeps doing his thing.
>>286429524This is a normalfag bees to the hive sort of thread because this Fire Force scene blew up again so it was bound to attract normalfags on here looking for (You)s
>>286432724You and other normalfags should be berated though. You should be aware that the mangaka you read despises your retarded thoughts
>>286432632Ever wondered why people only complain about Tamaki Fanservice and never any of the other characters with fanservice like Hibana or Maki?
>>286430579Thing is people don't dislike his fanservice because it involves nudity. People just find it annoying. Making it about "le puritans are targetting me, freedom to draw lewdness matters" is really just deflection on his part because he doesn't want to aknowledge that fact.
>>286432783>projecting his own thoughts on a multimillionaire mangaka
>>286415315The people who say this is cringe praise people like Ryan Johnson for doing it.
>>286416690>Make a literal "I drew you as the Basedjak and me as the Chad" manga chapterHoly based!
>>286432812All you retards do is lie. I've had enough of your shit.
>>286432903It's not the same shit anyways and I'm tired of hearing it. More mangaka should actually fire back like this except much harder rather than justifying drawing fap material to retarded barely human cattle.
>>286432812I checked the replies again and...>286416755 complains that a character is eyecandy. I hardly believe a true 4channer would say this but it's there. You say you aren't complaining about a character being eyecandy and it's a total strawman but at the same time you are. Mmmm.
I'm glad I don't have a sex drive.
>>286420778it literally is. Self insert and oc characters are a thing because people can't self insert into cool and beautiful female characters.
>>286415315Fanservice is good but tamaki is still a shit character
>>286415315Fucking based>>286416556SJWs and feminists>>286416635>StrawmanCope faggot >>286416649Even more? No need>>286416599>>286416690The only cringe here is you tranny loving faggots
>>286427009If you pay attention to japanese politics, yes: >>286422377
>>286427059The Japanese Communist Party is trying to. Also the tons of japanese radfems and the PTA.
>>286426385>>286432784>>286432838>>286426598Very convenient for you all to ignore this post: >>286422339It shows who thinks everything is a about america and who isn't familiar with manga tropes. Tourists.
kuso thread award
>>286436683Dude he is obviously trolling, this is 4chan
meanwhile certain people are lusting for Leon in RE9 but we wont go there
>>286427059>This isn't the 90's anymoreThe Japanese began sanitizing their media prior to the 2016 Olympics because foreigners aren't a big fan of loli and overt fanservice.
>>286415315Very good episode, dunked hard on feminists, wokefags and homosexuals. Ecchi is life.
>>286426560>It's all about people not feeling represented.Which is fucking retarded, by the way. Almost every "this is literally me" that's ever been spoken was about a character that is actually much better off and much luckier than them (or in some cases much worse off and much unluckier). The "the Japanese should make all their protagonists black and trans instead of asian because only white people can relate to asians" fags aren't even half as retarded as the "all character designs should be boring and unappealing" fags.
>>286425545>Know two contradictory ideas cannot both be right at the same time>Have an idea that I think is right>Idea is about morals and ethics>Apparently I'm evil now
>>286421334Hey, I use some of that and I still look like a corpse. Sometimes you can't beat genetics
Ecchi anons, I implore you. I beg of you, do not give these subversive/puritan types any of your time arguing, they want to just attack you and talk over you. They have no interest in reaching an understanding, they just want to deflect and attack and move goalposts. Instead of wasting your time, call them a slur and report + ignore. Simple as that because that's all they deserve.
>>286438706Based and true, one of them has written about ten posts in this thread implying "I speak for all dissenters and none of the arguments you've heard before this one are real" and then he stops replying when he's losing control of the narrative and waits 30 minutes to try again on someone else.
>>286438706Question: what if they sound reasonable
>>286438888>reasonable>puritan
>>286438850Pretty much, it's genuinely a waste of time to argue with these people. Staring at paint dry is a better use of your time because at least you are thinking about something, talking to these subversive/woke/sjw whatever you wanna call them types is just going to make you feel dejected because that's their goal to make any and all past arguments they made seem like they never happened to make you think "am I the crazy? What if they are just reasonable people! Of course maybe the ecchi is excessive, we should tone it down for all people to enjoy!", that's how they get you. For example>>286438888And then>>286438965Responds even though I said responding is in itself a waste of time, they thrive off attention. This really applies to any grift but it does here as well. Simply let them fade into the digital void because their criticisms should be paid no mind as they aren't criticism but attempts to destroy the soul of the work.Never feed the trolls and never give people who aren't authentic to themselves any of your time. Some arguments can of course be made against ecchi depending on what they are and they can be reasonable however I promise you this entire thread consists of 1 or 2 of those bad apples trying to create chains for either A. Laughs or B. Manufacturing a consensus. Falling into obscurity is a fate worse than any other.
So many people being uncomfortable about the episode is simply proving it right beyond a shadow of a doubt, the author is just a genius.
>>286439184It's a great example of how their vocalness to the episode itself is a confession to something they may or may not want to discuss.
>>286439097you could just call them retarded instead of twisting yourself into knots about how you should just shut up and let them run their mouths
>>286439465Well I did say>Instead of wasting your time, call them a slur and report + ignore. That's usually enough, calling them a retarded faggot is all that should be necessary.
