>AoT had shit ending>MHA had shit ending>JJK/Modulo had shit ending>Chainsaw Man had shit endingis this a modern shonen thing? was there a single recent shonen manga that had good ending?
Remember when people thought Bleach had a bad ending? Lol.
>>286961318KnY.
>>286961318>mappa forced to adapt 3/4 of those shit endingsFitting for such a terrible studio.
>>286961318Undead Unluck and Edens Zero aren't gonna win any awards but were good enough.
>>286961318Kimetsu no Yaiba's ending is good. The heroes win, the villains are defeated forever, and the world is peaceful. I like it.
>>286961430The way Yhwach lost was brain inducing stupid but Ichigo won so fucking hard inside Orihimes plapmeat deep
Chainsaw Mans ending is so many levels worse then any of the other manga/anime you listed that it's not even funny. People complain about the AoT ending but it's a work of art compared to this.You can't see those shows ending any other way, you can absolutely see chainsaw man ending differently and it being way better.
>>286961318japs cannot write endings
>>286961318Fire Force had a good ending
>>286961869>People complain about the AoT ending but it's a work of art compared to this.i agree csm but aot is just humiliatingat least denji here lives a somewhat decent life while eren fucking dies and his loved one moves on
>>286961318The SnK ending was pretty goodThe MHA ending was alrightThe JJK ending was alrightThe CSM ending was greatThe "modern shounen thing" is that their audience has an average IQ of 80, and this in large part due to the fact that the vast majority of their audience now are Indians, Arabs, Bangladeshis and other low-IQ ethnicities. Technological advancement in their countries gave us this. Every pajeet can afford a phone today.Even if YOU aren't that ethnicity, you are dumb enough to be dragged into the vortex hivemind think when you are surrounded by them.You're not old enough to remember the Code Geass ending(s) and the ravings that went on back then. And that's treated like a masterpiece today.You're young, you're stupid and you lack awareness, that's all there is to it. 20 years from now if you ever remember this post you made and the retarded things you wrote, you'll realize that.
>>286961866>6 years ago>recent>>286961947>2022>recentif those count then I will mention Hell's Paradise
I thought people were overreactiing about MHA abd JJK endings, but I really can't imagine defending this one.Literally nothing matters. What's even the point of reading this manga?
>>286961430Bleach had a worse ending than any shounen in the OP.
>>286961318>Chainsaw ManChainsaw Man got clocked as shit during the part 1, so people with a brain never expected it to end well. Point being, it doesn't belong in this "category".
>>286961318>Chainsaw Man had shit endingWhat are you talking about? Fujimoto fucked over all the waifufaggotry in the most unexpected way. Thats the best ending one could hope
>>286962045These is something different between a disappointing ending and an ending that resets everything and is just... whatever the fuck we got. I feel like I'm allowed to be racist against the Japanese this ending is so bad.
>>286961318The issue is that SnK brought TORtanic culture to manga readers. The next big shonen is going to get the exact same bullshit because pathological contrarians want to force their big melty.As for the mangas, their endings are fine at absolute worst.
>>286962078what the fuck are you saying? the geass ending was loved, the retardeds hating the show were the ones that didnt liked it was getting called the best anime ever and mal warriors (losers)if you have a little bit, just a little bit of media literacy and critical thinking you can see this ending is total dogshit. i can understand snk since the time travel stuff passes through the average viewer or shit like mikasa's character gets ignored because she is strong and there are poorly written emotions involved but the csm ending shits on everything. It destroys all the characters with a stupid restart and capitalizes in the part 2 being a mess.it is an awful ending
>>286962097Nigger 2022 IS recent, something wrong with your fucking brain?
>>286962169>Fujimoto fucked over all the waifufaggotry in the most unexpected way>power comes backuh huh
>>286962078The ones calling the snk ending good are unironically low iq. Instead of being a racist faggot without context try reading your shit shounen without scrolling on tiktok
>>286962078>The CSM ending was greatIt was a nonsense fanservice ending preceded by years of aimless drivel which it has actively rendered pointless. SnK ending was not good either. Jury's out on MHA and JJK, at least you're aiming closer to the issue there.
>>286962401>media literacy>critical thinkingWhat next, mr 18 year old redditor? "Themes and Such"? "Narratively unsatisfying"?You are incapable of writing a single sentence without letting us know precisely what you are.
>>286962078Intensely lacking in self-awareness.
JJK Modulo really just lacked an explanation of how Maru knew to do everything like did Rika tell him?
So how come it was ok when Stone Ocean did a reset ending?
>>286962413>2022>recentThe DS is RETRORE T RO
>>286962718Pucci was actually a good villain and it was bittersweet as the cast we knew were still ultimately gone forever
>>286962718Probably because it didn't use it for a rushed open ending to the entire series.
Sure is a lot of CSM threads in the catalog right now lol
>>286962718Irene isn't Jolyne. That should sum up the difference from other reset endings by itself. Everyone besides Emporio is gone forever.
>>286962718The final battle was cool and a secondary character suffocating the villain after the protagonist dies was cool as fuck too. Here the final battle was boring.
>does 8 (in the future 9) good endings in a row>other mangaka can't even do onehow does he do it?
>>286961869No, AoT ending was way worse. That fall from grace was only comparable to Game of Thrones after they stopped adapting the books
>>286962078>You're not old enough to remember the Code Geass ending(s) and the ravings that went on back then. And that's treated like a masterpiece today.While it's true that I'm not old enough for watching it live and I watched it later, I found it incredibly disappointing. Not at all worth the hype, it felt like an ass-pull. What does that make me?
>>286962267>mangas>the shittiest plebbit torusit-tier takeLike clockwork
>>286961318Millennial males are too cucked for some reasonOnly trust boomer mangakas and female mangakas
>>286961318>Be mappa>Gege cucks Megumi a week before the Megumi fight episode>CSM part 2 killed the hype for the anime now
>>286964247>the author is such a hack they need to spell out their themes out loud for their idiot audienceYou're reading comic books for kids. Of course authors need to be explicit with their themes.
>>286962718>characters actually died and got a meaningful send off>pucci was a great villain and his demise was perfect both thematically as a payoff>people actually liked Emporio and he actually had a massive pair of balls in doing what he did >the “reset” didn’t undone the whole setting, just the specific part 6>even then, Irene is not Jolyne but a different person>emporio still suffered all of it and the manga ends with him cryingIf we want to talk about a badly written jojo ending, Jojolion is the one to join the club
>>286962116You have never read any of the shonen in the OP if you think Bleach’s is worse. You probably never read Bleach either.
>>286961318End yourself
>>286963955He’s not a pseudo intellectual, he’s just honest about what JoJo’s is and what he likes.
>>286961318all of these series were shit all the way through
>>286962078>nasufag thinks these were goodIt’s like poetry.
>>286961430I never bought into the Bleach hate, and I’m glad that time has only proven me more right.
>>286964141Don't like the mirror being held up to you huh?
>>286963955He doesn't write shonen to begin with
>>286961318Nah dont even compare those to this. The others at least ended their stories and had an ending. What CSM did was spit on its fanbase
>>286962078>The "modern shounen thing" is that their audience has an average IQ of 80, and this in large part due to the fact that the vast majority of their audience now are Indians, Arabs, Bangladeshis and other low-IQ ethnicities. Technological advancement in their countries gave us this. Every pajeet can afford a phone today.Saying this as a roundabout way of defending shonenslop is pure schizophrenia
>>286961318>everything has shit endingidk anon maybe the issue is that you're prob 35y and still reading manga
Have you written your daily apology?
>>286964498Followed both bleach and CSM weekly bleach's ending is still far worse
>>286961869>You can't see those shows ending any other way,Tf are you talking about theres no shortage of fan made endings for all of those series
As someone that's been on this board for two decades now, watching newfags realize 11s can't write a decent ending is hilarious.
>>286964724KIMETSUGODSI KNEEL
World Trigger will deliver in 2046
>>286961869dude the ending was meh at worst, quit being a fucking drama queen over a goddamn nothingburger
>>286962787SHUT UP 7TH GEN IS THE BEGINNING OF MODERN AND 6TH BARELY GETS A PASS
>>286961318I liked the ending of AoT
>>286962078Holy fucking truth nuke
>>286961318CSM ending was great
toriko had a pretty shit ending too
>>286965012>>286965159posters born with aids
>>286965159Cuck onions man
How did he do it with DBZ?
>>286965351Toriyama wrote each arc to be mostly self-contained with a proper resolution point for each and eventually completed Dragon Ball after he resolved his latest arc and was no longer interested.
>>286965351Nobody read DBZ for its writing so he could've done anything for the ending and DBZspics would've been fine with it
>>286965792Cope.
>>286965868These are the same people who treat Super like fine art
>>286964498For all its flaws Denji ending up as Powa's slave is still thematically appropriate given his inability to mature. That beats Bitchigo getting rewarded with a wife and kids for ensuring the cosmos will always be ruled by a wildly incompetent fascist oligarchy
>>286964247>>286965677Hi again, Jeremy. I see you haven't posted your hand and passport yet. Why is that?
>>286964724Why was this one the only one with a well made ending? Are male mangaka that easily distracted by shit that they lose track of their stories in the end? Is it the editors fault?
>>286966220Slit your neck open.
>>286966220I kneel shounen hater
>>286965235>>286965302Happy endings are kino, face it redditorPart 2 was trash, the ending of it was great
>>286964724CHADmado GODjiro, the savior of Nihon, the protagonist who GAPED and RAPED oda's sweet bussy. I FUCKING KNEEL.
>>286966220Anon it's just a story, there's a million more out there, you don't need to be this mad.
chainsaw man ending was kinothe only people that dislike it are redditors who are allergic to happy endings
>>286962401>geass ending was lovedAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAIt'll never cease to amaze me that people on this site will talk with confidence about shit that took place before they were born at this point. The melties literally made other threads impossible and people were actively coping.
>>286961318I wish people wouldn't just lump in all bad endings together when there's degrees to this shit.JJK and MHA made me feel a bit unsatisfied.AOT and CSM made me feel like an idiot for caring in the first place.
Chainsawbros, how bad is it? I was putting off reading chainsaw man since I saw some anons saying it had gone to shit. Is it as bad as aot's retroactive ruination of the whole story? Because I don't want to be mindbroken again
Kagurabachi WILL have a GOOD ending where the ""villains"" succeed and Chihiro bleeds out in a shed after realizing his father was wrong
>>286966833Damn Jeremy. Did demon slayer mind-break you that hard? Tell you what: post your leaking anus and we'll call it a truce.
>>286967468The ending is good, Part 2 was bad.
>>286965692>was no longer interestedI heard DBZ was supposed to end after the Cell arc but Jump forced his hand into making the Buu arc, but I also dropped DBZ way before the Cell arc so I don't know how complete its resolution was.
>>286961318>AoT had shit ending>MHA had shit endingAnime fans liked it>JJK/Modulo had shit endingAnime fans will like it too. You mangatards ALWAYS say the ending is shit, then it ends up either being fine or liked when it gets an anime. Your opinion does not matter.
Jigokuraku had a good ending. AssClass had an incredible ending (although the final chapter was just serviceable). I'm told KnY's ending was perfectly serviceable but I dropped that series on account of being the definition of mediocre.
>>286969883"Dragon Ball was supposed to end after X arc" is the most oft-repeated myth in the history of manga. There's no truth to it. Toriyama was allowed to end the series when he wanted, and the ending was perfectly meh.
Shounenshit is inherently incompatible with good endings, the publisher either wants it to go on until infinity or wrapped up in two chapters to make room for something else.
>>286962078>nasufags>spewing pretentious shitname a better duo
>>286961430the other manga at least had final arcs and satisfying fights, bleach had overwatch ultimate gacha cutscenes back to back for like 20 chapters because kubo "had" to show every bankai against the equivalent of a training dummy
>>286967313>I wish people wouldn't just lump in all bad endings together when there's degrees to this shit.This.>AOTA sabotage>CSMThat's on you. Part 1 was already apparently shit. AoT, for example, dropped the bucket in the last arc.
>>286961318>was there a single recent shonen manga that had good ending?Fire Force, I'd say that counts as recent enough as it ended in 2022Part 1 lol
>>286970468>Shounenshit is inherently incompatible with good endings*blocks ur path*ENTER
>>286962078JJK and MHA are barely remembered today, let alone in 20 years kek.
>>286961318>was there a single recent shonen manga that had good ending?Magu-Chan, even with the axe, had a pretty great ending.
>>286970468ENTER
>>286970136Animeonlies are subhuman thirdworlder teenagers with an attention span so low that even a fucking shonen manga is too difficult to read anon.
>>286961318>is this a modern shonen thing?You tell us, why don't you start by naming a single OLD shounen manga with an ending better than the ones you listed?
>>286970136>it ends up either being fine or liked when it gets an animebeing made after the serialisation and after the tankoubon, anime endings are the post-post-cleanup versions that benefit from hindsightthey know exactly how the original went with the audience, which parts were the pain points, and which sections to expand or smooth overso you can't really say anime being well received proves the manga ending was goodat best you can say it proves that the idealised version of manga ending is fine
>>286961318Sometimes we have to remember shounen is meant for 12 year old japanese boys to look at cool heroes and masturbate to 2d teens. They don't care about this. In fact, the japanese would care way more if Fujimoto commited tax fraud instead of a shit ending.
>>286962718Literally only because SBR was way better
>>286971427The Japanese are brainless bugmen regarding any aspect of legality.
>>286961318How is getting everything you want a shit ending?
>>286961318MHA and CSM had good endings, you guys are just too cynical.
>>286972045The retards on /a/ wanted Denji to die.
>>286963955This but the opposite.
>>286970845BASED
>>286961318Would you fags have preferred the literal shit ending where everything becomes bug shit for eternity? How is everyone living a relatively normal life bad?
>>286966220Shounen isn't a fucking genre, the age of the target audience doesn't affect how something is written.
>>286962078>go to lowest common denominator sites like youtube where said turdskins primarily reside>ending is great, best anime ever (also the only one i've seen btw) etc etc etc>go to more high brow anime sites like aniDB, which are primarily inhabited by whites and east asians>the ending is egregious and bad and simply there to infuriate the reader as was isayama's will
>>286966379>>286966762>>286972695How cynical are you to pretend that this nihilistic slop is good just because the author added a little bit of fanservice in the final chapter?
>>286972695Yeah that'd be cool.
>>286972045Because it had nothing to do with any of the story or characters lmao
>>286972695If those are the only two endings possible at this point, maybe don't write the story into a corner where you can only end it in a shitty way.
>>286961318The fact that westoids need to be told that the sky is blue even if it wasn't directly stated in the Japanese version or they magically get confused about the plot of the story has always been their biggest weakness. Media literacy is simply too low in the west to appreciate good endings.
>>286961318Ending was the best part of csm2.What a waste of time part 2 was.
>>286970468>Shounenshit is inherently incompatible with good endingsBullshit.
>>286973077So you didn't read it?
>>286961430Rukiafags are not people
>>286961318Demon Slayer was the only modern one with a decent ending
>>286966220You say it like shounen are doomed to be bad. Most stories are just mediocre, that's all. It's only the top 1% that get remembered.
>>286961430>literally anything ends>THIS IS SHITThe lesson here is clear, mangafags are midwits, only ever listo to animechads.
>>286961947>>286962097Yea, FF had a great ending Hells Paradise was decent too.
>>286972695Anything is better than "it was all just a dream"That's the number one rule of writing.
>>286974649I mean its not as bad as JJK's ending. Sure its mediocre but at least it feels like an ending. JJK's doesn't even feel like and Modulo makes it even worse
>>286974135Based on how many people liked it I'm the only one who read it
>>286975353No wonder you people call everything a shit ending, you keep moving the goalpost for what's considered good.
>>286975205Let's be honest here nothing will ever beat FMA's ending. Legit one of the few well known manga's that didn't shit the bed
>>286975683>Legit one of the few well known manga'You see that doesn't mean anything. You could be describing 10 books or 3. Who decides what's well known and what isn't?
>>286975749What are you talking about?
>>286975749shut up retard
>>286962078Thanks for reminding me of how immensly dogshit Kara no Kyoukai is with this take
>>286961318I don’t know what you were expecting. Fujimoto clearly was in this just for money for the last year. Maybe even for the whole part 2What, you didn’t figure it out even with chapters that you can read in 2 minutes that come out monthly?
>>286961318Any ending that a manga will have will always be shit for people over here.MHA had a good ending, and CSM even if controversial, got the most fujimoto ending it could have had.
>>286961318MHA ending is overhated.The problem with the JJK and CSM endings is concrete. People complained because the authors used lazy and bullshit solutions (offscreen explanations, alternate dream realities) to resolve the conflicts. But in MHA's case the problem is ideological. People complained simply because it didn't fulfill their power fantasies (which is funny, because not getting carried away by power fantasies is exactly what the manga is about).
>>286976745My problem with JJK was how the final fight was handled and holy crap was it handled poorly. Yutajo was outright pointless
>>286962078I don't trust anything a nasunigger typesYou faggots are the biggest slop consumers in world history after a regular mcdonalds visiter.
>>286966220Based.CSM is most definitely my final shounen slop and probably anime/manga in general.All of modern edgy shounen were always garbage slop made by pretentious and insecure edgetards like Isayama.Fujimoto was not an exemption, he wasn't a genius. He made couple of shit and kept recycling it in his new works constantly before he hit big with Fire Punch due to his assistant artists and then hit enormously with CSM and instantly became "self-critical" pretentious tard who got enough bucks to not be desperate enough to make anything worthwhile, just keep making slop for the paycheck while retards like us kept reading it.The industy is fucking gay and fake, not inteligent or meaningful, they're still producing consumer slop for japanese teens that actually pay for volumes, not fat disgusting /a/faggots jerking off to drawings and pedoshit in moms basement that don't spend a penny on manga or anime.I'm glad every show i used to watch when i was a youngfag ended up shit. It only opened my eyes that the garbage i was getting obsessed about was just garbage not made for me. But some pathetic japanese teen that rather read garbage like MHA than chasing shit in life that is worth while.
>>286972802there's no nihilism in it at all, learn what words mean
>>286961318i wouldnt even call what CSM pulled an endinghe did "it was all a dream, and nothing really happened" shityou could put this chapter into any random point in the series and would work the same way
>>286976745>But in MHA's case the problem is ideological. People complained simply because it didn't fulfill their power fantasies If the sacrifices you make aren't appreciated then why make them? Wealth, fame, women are the measurements of gratitude that society shows you for your efforts. If you get none of that then people don't care what you did for them, they weren't deserving of your sacrifices.
>>286980879And to drive the point further MHA isn't some mediaeval or post apocalyptic setting where wealth is a zero sum game. It's a extremely wealthy setting but he ended up with nothing, nobody gave a shit about what he did. That's ultimate cuckoldry.
>>286964724The Straightforward man
>>28696485220-16 is more like it
>>286961318KimetsuJigokurakuFire ForceHaikyuu
>tfw dropped Chainsaw Man after Part IBased, glad I wasn't retared enough to read Part II
>>286980879you learn about what a hero is when you're like 4, anon. spiderman was tackling this sort of stuff 60 years ago. are you african perchance
>>286980879You could say this about any other series, not about a series about SUPERHEROES. Not only that, a series that makes a clear division by several characters between GOOD and FAKE superheroes
>>286961318Attack on Titan is still the most legendarily awful ending of them all. I doubt it'll ever be topped.
The thing about CSM2 is that it's been shit from the beginning. Fujimoto was constantly dropping plotlines and undoing his own character development. I haven't expected anything satisfying from it for 100 chapters now. But what's really offensive is that it retcons all of part 1, which while bittersweet was pretty good.I hate how often artists destroy their own work. You can say they're entitled to do so but it's clearly mental illness.
>>286963955I love JJBA, but 5 and 8 had trash endings. That Requiem fight sucked and Sleeping Slaves dragged it down even more
>>286971427Shonen jump readership is average age 25+
>>286976745mha fucking sucks in general but what stuck about the ending for me is that deku never tries to be a hero unless everything is handed to him in a silver plate.
>>286966833
>>286966154See >>286984292
>>286961318>SnK’s ending got shit on in the West but did okay in Japan.>MHA’s ending got shit on in the West but was praised to hell in Japan.>CSM’s ending is getting shit on by both Western and Japanese readers.This was truly our Chainsaw Man.
>>286984292HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA*wheeze*AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
>>286961318>It's bad because the internet says soThank God I'm not terminally online and zoomers are soon going to be drafted to die in a Iranian mountain. Bless Allah.
>>286961318Anime and manga have been famous for shit endings since forever. Nips let their stories go on for too long, lose the point of it and it ends like a turd.
>>286984292PUT ME IN THE SCREENSHOT>>286984768>confirms that xis expired refugee passport is real but hand is so unwhite xe required AI image editingself-ownie owie
>>286976745>People complained simply because it didn't fulfill their power fantasiesThat's the normie take. I disdain it since OfA completely destroyed Shigaraki as a character by being the source of his villainess. Also, Deku and Shiggy's rivalry never touched the highs of All Might and AfO. The last battle was a chore to read, Naruto last arc levels of chore. Boring, unappealing, no stakes, a battle system that relies of punching hard. Hora kneel to the Fujos and refused to give Deku a character to lander to Bakufujos. The extra chapter was 10/10 since Hori wrote what he wanted and Deku finally feels like a real person instead of Sugoi Kacchan. You know what I mean.
>>286984292That's just sad.
>>286978990>CSM is most definitely my final shounen slop and probably anime/manga in generalGod willing I hope this applies to all chainsaw man fans. Get out of here tourist.
>>286984292I don't get it?
>>286961318Jitsu Wa Watashi Wa's ending was so good it had like a 10 chapter victory lap.
>>286961318>Modulo had shit endingwait, did that shit already end?
>>286962078>using Shiki Ryougi for this shit opinionDisingenuous. I literally watched Code Geass as it was airing and everyone I knew along with the internet at the time loved that ending. I don't even need to address the rest. Don't ever post my waifu again.
>>286980953Nobody except students who clearly call him a hero and idolize him, whoever made the statue of 1-A, and a bully turned classmate who literally cried because he was scared he'd be out of the game after the final battle
>>286984955At the end of the day, I blame twitteroid sjw's of 2010s, they made it cool and hip among kids to be a heckin based nazi and say nigger word and now millions of brown early 20-somethings have inferiority complex they suppress by larping as white on the internet 24/7
>>286961430As Bleach's #1 fan, the entire last arc is a pile of shit outside of cool fan service fights.
>>286961318They had shit endings because they were shit series for the most part, specially AoT.
>>286984693Apparently people up to the age of 42 can join the army now https://www.stripes.com/branches/army/2026-03-24/army-raises-enlistment-age-42-21170859.html
>>286985227Nah
>>286985213I hope someone makes a new compilation with the new embarrassments in this thread(Yeah I'm a beggar lol. I'm too lazy today... I would on another day)
>>286961318What about a shonen which ending is not "bad" but feels "unfulfilling"? For this is the ending of Dr.Stone.
>>286985213Also kek thanks for reminding me of the "hairy arms" plot point of the passport/hand arc, that shit was hilarious
>>286985436The hairy arms are confirmed real!Repeat!The hairy arms are confirmed real!
>>286964686Can you prove it wrong?
i have no idea about chainsaw man and lurking only gives me people saying random names and things out of context. can someone greentext what went wrong so i can understand the drama?
>>286977456>Yutajo was outright pointlessIf you engaged with the story sincerely, you could see that it had a role in reinforcing the thematic conclusions of Itadori and Gojo.It was about reinforcing the idea that the world does not need another Gojo, and going down the road of trying to become one is an error. Strength of community is more important than individual strength.
>>286985909>MUH, THEMESt. I didn't read that part and I'm not part of this convo I just butted inBut still that's a pretty shallow way to express a theme>I TOOK OVER A DUDES BODY AND IM SUPER STRONG BTW SO... THIS EXPRESSES THE THEME THAT WE DONT NEED THAT DUDEOnly worse shit would be Naruto and Boku no hero
>>286985817What if your story ended with everything getting reset and nothing that happened mattered at all?
>>286961869AOT is still easily the worst manga ending of all time
>>286985928What expresses that theme is that he falls on his face right afterwards and his only contribution to the fight was neutralizing a domain expansion and providing some rubble that ends up being useful.Yuta's intent is to take up the mantle of Gojo by taking a drastic step and trying to reach that level of power but it doesn't work and he almost dies because of it.
>>286985817Imagine the final chapter of Naruto rebooting everything (but not really) back to chapter one but this time Naruto doesn't have Kurama, Sasuke is not an edgelord and his clan is alive.
>>286985962Ok...? So then it's>I take the body of the strongest guy but it don't work so wellOk? Not really a particularly good exemplification of a theme just"Theme: don't rely on one dude""Story: I do and we get fucked" and it just happens in one fight so it's pretty much like flipping a boolean, I'm not a complexityfag but there is literally nothing to digest hereThis is like when people said jjk's theme was death because someone died
>>286985980>Naruto analogyyou're still here?
>>286961430It was shit nearly 15 years ago and its shit now
>>286985986Sorry man, I'm not going argue about why a theme works or not when you haven't read the manga. I don't have time to list every element that reinforces a particular theme in the story.
>>286985940>>286985980lmao what is this alice in wonderland level shit
>>286985991I just picked a popular analogy, man
Why are we even trying to pretend that CSM ending was good?
>>286986029Aight mb senpai>>286986016I got more than enough of the gist even if I didn't read it, there's really not a lot of thematic depth to that series. Ur argument is "bro fucked up after taking over the body therefore relying on that one body is bad" it's really not that deepDoraemon has better themes lol
CSM's ending isn't that bad. It's the chapter right before that's awful. The offscreen fight, the abrupt cut to Pochita killing himself, and Pochita talking about how Denji was better off miserable was all terrible writing. But in the actual ending Denji is just chilling with Power and Nayuta. I don't know why Fujimoto made it sound like Pochita was fucking over Denji permanently when he didn't. The execution of the ending is godawful, no doubt about that, but Denji's fate is alright.
>>286986281>why Fujimoto made it sound like Pochita was fucking over Denji permanentlyYou literally imagined this. Pochita was saying Denji would be happier this way.
>>286986465"Happier" in that Denji is better off miserable. That made it sound like Pochita was leaving Denji to rot in the shed.
>>286965159You are not fooling anyone.
Bumping legendary bread
>>286961318honestly aot was the only one that really hurt me out of the bunch. i never got as invested into manga after that and so managed to avoid the pain from the shit endings of those other ones. except csm, but part 2 completely lost me, so i'm again kind of apathetic toward the ending. i liked fire punch more anyway
>>286961866By that logic, you’d have to count MHA as a good ending too.
>>286986789Just record a video where you do these hand gestures: 1, v, scissors cutting, clenched fist, flick, in that order kek, easy way to prove you're not cherrypicking
Does any of you would add points to the ending of a manga/anime if the ships are confirm? because i like the ending of Naruto and Bleach btw
This 'smaller' melt down is funny to watch. People were actually invested in pt2? Especially this late into it? Your general had become a cesspool anyway.
>>286961318>shonenshit had shit endingNext...
>>286964671To what degree though? CSMs power was rewriting reality and retconning stuff out of existence, people had to see that coming right?
>>286961318>*taps sign*
>Don't read CSM past a certain chapter cuz it's lame and boring>apparently gets a terrible ending and everyone hates it now>Don't read JJK past a certain chapter cuz it's lame and boring>apparently gets a terrible ending and everyone hates it now>Don't read AoT past a certain chapter cuz it's lame and boring>apparently gets a terrible ending and everyone hates it nowTime has a tendency to prove me right, it seems.
>>286987262>I don't have to prove anything>Posts own hand several timesSelf ownie, owieNow where's the video
>>286987368kekkk based
>>286987579lmfaooo now that your ai photos failed you're too bitchmade to post a videostory of your life xD
Read Mizukami manga.
>>286965792Dragon Ball stands out a lot because of its good writing, actually.>but Toriyama forgot about his characters and-Yeah he did. It's good in other ways, though.
My hero academia vigilante had a good ending.
clean mattress friend
>>286965159>CSM is not great.Fixed.
>>286970300>Universe Genkidama>Vegeta redemption>Vegeta speech>M. Satan saves the world>"Thank you, Dragon Balls!">Uub is basically a "the adventures will continue!" final page which is very in line with what Dragon Ball stands forI understand if you don't care for Uub as a character or if you think the last 2 chapters were slightly underwhelming (atmosphere wise) but overall it's fantastic.
>>286987686LOL
>>286980773>>286980773CSM is crap; it is you who should learn what words mean; you are projecting.
>>286961318>i want her to mourn me for at least 10 years with her husband and children>let's have my sisters join our honeymoon>i live with my husband, my sister and their kid>i get hard imaging my crush having sex with another guyKodansha authors and editors need some therapy desu.
>>286987796>Hairy arms "filler" lastExhibit A
>>286987796Exhibit BUtter tastelet take baka
>>286961318This isn't a new thing. Soul Eater and Black Butler both had shit endings
>>286987865I agree with you on the Saiyan/Namek/Frieza "trilogy" being so tight, but not on the general conclusion.Cell is a mess. I'm not going to bother too much with it. But Buu is very strong. It's such a solid blend of fighting, fun, dark comedy and cool abilities. Satan does a lot to carry this arc with his antics. Writing isn't just about keeping lore consistent, there's a lot to it, and for instance you can see Toriyama can write dialogues much better than someone like Kishimoto.
>People say the manga has ended>Perfect time to start reading>OH WAIT BRO THERE ARE PARALLEL MULTIVERSES WHERE EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED BEFORE NEVER ACTUALLY HAPPENEDThx for reading
>>286964852At least mango have endings. Western capeshit just goes on and on, or reboots, or the title remains the same but the main character has been replaced by a diversity candidate.
>>286988028TRVTH NVKEWestshit should not be taken seriously
>>286988041That's true,>"I dont have to talk about the box office anymore"Culmination of months and months of meticulous buildup, very good actualization of the "ten" in kishitenketsu structure>passport arcGenre shift to crime/detective fiction/mystery/psychologicalBoth added to the saga impeccably and indelibly.
>>286970799This was so fucking good.
It's because author's are trying to come up with some shock ending hoping that it will surpass just a normal satisfying one. Unfortunately, this does not work unless the story is made to be a tragedy. How am I supposed to take AoT seriously with a character like Gabi in the finale pulling off a crazy headshot and killing Eren? I can't. Am I really supposed to believe that Tanjiro isn't supposed to be the true hero at the end of the day in hinokami kagura and watch him be out of the final battle for 15 chapters? No, I can't. Was Gojo really supposed to come back and black flash supposed to be the final conflict of JJK? No, it wasn't. At the end of the day, I'm tired of protagonist getting sidelined, I read shounen shit for the MC. Even Fairy Tail got it right with letting Natsu take out Acnologia in the end. I don't need to know janitors are good for society in MHA, a janitor means fuck all when the worlds baddest dudes are here to rape the planet, and really only one person is capable of taking them on, which is Deku, only for the moral message to fall on deaf ears.
>>286961318yea its a modern trend to be shit.
>>286988111*authors
>>286961318a good ending in japan is extremely rare. there are two or three reasons for this.1) sometimes things just dont even end and get stuck in limbo or cancelled. 2) japan in general SUCKS at satisfying endings.3) and this more just the explanation behind #2, a lot of japan's traditional stories and story telling simply do not follow western conventions or mentalities. like, they tell a story and then suddenly just... stop. like its a snippet of life and how "sometimes things just happen". they dont follow good setup, rising action, climax, or most importantly RESOLUTION. "theres this ogre. and he eats people." "and then what happened?" "what do you mean? thats its. wild shit, right?" while the west wraps things up with "happily ever after" or "and thus ends the tragedy" and ties up all loose ends, japanese stories often lack that ending direction, and we just see a snippet into characters' lives, and then at the end "they just go about the rest of their lives (whatever that may be)". shinkai did that with 5cm/sec and garden of words.so bad and unsatisfactory endings are generally to be expected. they arent taught well how to wrap things up. thats why when something DOES end well (or even simply end without being straight SHIT), it stands out so much, like code geass.
>>286961318modulo ending was a 10/10 what are you talking about
>>286988111>I I I I I I I Inarcissism
>>286988129bruh u have nooooo idea what u are talking about xD
>>286988129Japan is fine at ending stories when they aren't pulp trash aimed at children and teenagers
>>286988129this is cope. jojo has 8 different endings and all of them are better than anything coming from modern shonen. don't blame the entirety of japan just because the four faggots that got popular for writing hype moments and aura were unable to deliver an acceptable ending.
>>286988174>aimed at children and teenagersReminder that Jump's average readership is 25+ and it's likely even higher for other mags/online
>>286988186yeah we live in a world infested by manchildren, that doesn't change the fact that this stories are aimed at children.
>>286988144>everyone turns that idea down because of some dumb arbitrary martial honorTechnically it's not really an issue. It's striking and annoying some readers, sure, but it's in line with the kind of story Dragon Ball is. The adventures, challenging yourself, the martial heroes. Martial honor IS Dragon Ball. Of course when the heroes can't actually win in a straight fight that's another story (that's why everyone ganged up on Kid Buu).>Though, I feel like the saga itself ran for too long and Buu overstayed his welcome. It's just hard to be invested when 3/4 of the story is about one villain who changes forms every time.The pacing is pretty fast when you think about it, a lot of that time is spent on Fat Buu. After that it's the Gotenks show. And what a show.I think one thing people don't get when they discuss Dragon Ball writing is that Dragon Ball is a lot about its own charisma. The designs, the abilities, the snappy dialogues, the endearing twists. A lot of this shines through writing, not just art. It's not as conventional as, say, writing the hero's journey and everyone can identify that this story fits that template, but it definitely takes skill, insight, flair. Toriyama had all of this despite being forgetful and caring more about working on his car than his universe.
>>286988048Or Conan
>>286988181>jojo has 8 good endings>meanwhile, thousands of other things sucki very clearly said that good endings are rare. shitty endings are nothing new.
>>286988209How would you prove that the stories are aimed at children if the main audience is not children? Also, editors have openly lightened up various restrictions like gore over the years
>>286970468>Shounenshit is inherently incompatible with good endingsMore like good anything. Imagine being a straight adult and reading about power levels or sweaty men/boys fighting.
>>286988277>Power levelsAnalogous to troop number>sweaty men/boys fightingHistory is, in large part, the study of war I guess we should never open a history book then xD
>>286988277y-yeah, wh-who would do such a thing?
>>286961869>People complain about the AoT ending but it's a work of art compared to this.lmao
>>286962078>The SnK ending was pretty goodStopped reading there
>>286961318>is this a modern shonen thing?KekZoomies have no ideaPic related has never and will never be topped as the worst ending of all time
>>286988222can you give me some example of shitty japnese endings from media that isn't aimed at children and minors? Just give me 3 examples big boy that's all I need.
>>286988371>>286988381>1 min apartYou trying to scramble together the last scraps of your tattered ego or something bud?
>>286988395that depends, do folk and fairy tales count as "aimed at children"?
>>286988417No, I just saw two brainlet posts next to eachother. Many such cases in /a/
>>286961318> ModernIs it first time you've encountered a case of Japanese Ending Syndrome?
>>286988488Makes sense. my detector was off
>>286988411Yeah I agree there's less of a "progression towards something" which Namek easily allowed (since the goal is to find the Dragon Balls, not just beat one dude - hell, there are several dudes to beat or protect outside of finding the balls). The difference is that while Cell is formulaic and boring with multiple dudes beating up Cell then getting beaten up by Cell in a row, Buu goes crazy with its ideas, it's more of a high stakes comedy.
>>286988525Nta but Android/Cell arc was inundated with editor meddlingMaybe for the best since we got Perfect Cell out of it but eh
>>286984541>>SnK’s ending got shit on in the West but did okay in Japan.So, really Japan liked the main lead DIED KISSLESS VIRGIN?
>>286988674Hard to say what the editors really did here, I think they were always a part of the creative process and it might have had different results according to the editor or the arcs... I can only dream of what the original arc seemed to be at first, aka a reverse Namek where the enemies would be the ones playing sneak tactics and different moving pieces.
>>286961780It's what they get for cancelling the ice faggot kino that made them the most cash prior to adapting shonenslop.
>>286961318the way part 2 of chainsaw man ended proves to me that part 2 was a comedy and never meant to be taken seriously. What a shit ending.
>>286988812it makes me so sad it got cancelled
>>286961780Wait, that actually is pretty funny
>>286987688I mean, it's not like he forgot Piccolo or Krillin, he was sidelining literally whos from tiny arcs like Launch, who cares? It's not like the HxH guy ever brought Gyro, Hanzo or the Hunter exam guys
>>286988674>>286988699>>286988799So why are you talking to yourself? To try to gracefully escape? kek
>>286965351Toriyama hated romance even though his editor wanted Goku and Bulma to hook up. He made Goku a man with Chichi married, gave him a son, and paired Bulma with Vegeta. Kubo, Kishimoto, and Mashina work too much on romance
>>286988857Same here, I still can't fully move on.. Avex & everyone involved deserve the worst for dropping the ball so hard.
>>286988028>but capeshitOne of the final copes of this board
>>286988886Launch would trivialize the Saiyan and Namek Arcs by being support for Gohan, stealing from Freiza.
>>286988918Not a cope tho westshit is just trash and manga is good simple as xD u will seethe forever
>>286988886Her name is LunchAnd actually he did literally forget about herHe also admitted to forgetting SSJ2 ever existed and even forgot Tao Pai PaiToriyama didn't even want to do Dragon Ball originally
>>286987713His name is OobFucking dubfags
>>286988886He forgot things for sure and it didn't really impact Dragon Ball because Dragon Ball always focused on the "there and now", and surprisingly has very little retcons. Seriously. But I guess people will bring it up because he WAS forgetful so I just preemptively acknowledged it.
>>286980879Anon, Spiderman was tackling this issues years ago, if you go down a few other hero teams, like the X-men you will notice similar things. a SUPERHERO is about doing what is right, even if society shuns you, it's the pillar of the hope core message that been prevelant in the western comic for years before calli comies fucked it up
>>286988935You are absolutely coping by deflecting to capeshit out of nowhere like it has any relevance to Japanese writers frequently bungling their endings
>>286988969>capeshitleave>>286988970Nah capeshit is ass and manga is good simple as
>>286965208Toriko's ending is fineIt's a shame we had to skip so many arcs to get to itBut what we ended up being served was perfectly palatable
>>286989002>Check desuarchive for this thread Grim
>>286988959>>286988944>>286988933Yeah, that's more or less the point desu, people pick apart the series when it really isn't about that, they just hate on it because it's popular to hate on it, seems that somehow buck broke zoomies retroctively.Was talking with my Nephews about animus a few months, ago, and she just said she didn't like DBZ and Saint Seiya because they were old and too "battle-brained", while saying that JJK and Kimetsu had better side characters.That shit broke my heart, won't let my king of jobbers, Jabu, be slandered like that..
>>286989293Honestly stopI never thought I'd say this but I'm starting to feel bad for himLet him have his fun
>>286984292That's just sad
>>286961318>modernShonen have bad endings in general. You think Dragon Ball had a good ending? You’re delusional
>>286989261>Frankly, the most offensive thing about your shitposting, spic, is this "Jeremy" name itself. Any proper and well adjusted 4chan schizo is capable of coming up with a proper 4chan culture appropriate name for his nemesis. i.e. "Anti-Crack-kun", "beamfag", "Grapefag", "Bikini schizo."Dude.. AHAHAHAHHA
>>286989353Anon let it go. For all you know you could be arguing with someone who's in a sanatorium or in hospice care and won't live to see next week or has suicidal impulses. Just forgive and forget.
>>286985817mentally ill people projected themselves on denji and are disappointed and angry he gets over himself and leads a happier life because of it.
>>286961430>Waste an absurd amount of chapters for every one of the royal guard fights where they practically never lose and overcome whatever the heroes throw at them>The final Yhwach is extremely rushed with a very dumb conclusionI always found it funny that Ichigo never actually got a cool fight after a whole arc about unlocking his true power from his heritage. The final confrontation was a joke with the grinded bones asspull.
>good endings are the endings were my self insert has sex and defeats the bad guySeems to be what a lot of you "people" consider a good ending.
>>286984292YAAHAHAHAHA
>>286961318KnY and fire force also have mid endings. Not absolutely shit but derivative and not really worth remembering. Still i guess that´s better than having no ending at all like stuff like One piece or keep coming back with sequels like Bleach.I guess milking the cow until it dies is just how things are now.
Truth is, writing a good ending for anything is hard. Just look at fat George refusing to finish his series because he wrote himself into a corner. You can't give catharsis to every single reader, and in this modern internet age they will all show up to shit on you. Demon Slayer was fine, but people want to complain about the whiplash of the unserious epilogue
I wouldn't say its shit, at least he ends up with Power and has a cute daughter, want a real shit ending?Go read Hayate no Gotoku.
>chainsaw man had a shit endingwait for the anime adaptation/movie
>>286987784>>i live with my husband, my sister and their kidWhat.
>>286985213sounds exactly like the American/German flag schizo that keeps shitting up /sp/. No amount of unmasking will ever make that faggot leave
I see people are already defending the finale.
>>286987439>>Don't read AoT past a certain chapter cuz it's lame and boringwhat arc was it?
>>286988895it's like they hate money by cancelling Yuri On Ice
>>286961318I have been watching anime and reading manga for over 20 years. The amount of series that actually have a good ending I could count on one hand. Series that have no ending at all due to the creator dying/going on permanent hiatus somehow still have better endings .
>>286961318>reading shonenslopYou brought this upon yourself
>>286991147Nice boyfriend you have there
>>286964724I genuinely believe that Kimetsu would have been more well received here if it's movies only made decent amount of money instead of a lot more. It doesn't do anything offensive and end on a nice note
>>286991454Perhaps but the bigger problem is ufotable treating it like some Hollywood schlock instead of a more low key yokai human drama feeling story in terms of directorial style
>>286961318FMAB did it well and then every shounen ever since has just decided to completely shit the bed
>>286964724>Do nothing offensive>Still pissed people off
>>286961318>is this a modern shonen thing?Zoomie…
>>286991895Hopefully it will have a good ending
>>286964724this ending is also regarded as trash lol
>>286991949>Deranged loser MC who caves in to every single demand of people on the internet and embarassing himself as a resultNah, series with MC like that tend to have a shit ending
>>286992141 I just gotta say that this tiny dick behaviour makes you look even lower than fucking fatass, spics and Asians
>>286961318the only people that think mha had a shit ending are the same idiots that disliked it from the start for not being anime kick-ass, so their opinions aren't worth considering
>>286991505>Perhaps but the bigger problem is ufotable treating it like some Hollywood schlock instead of a more low key yokai human drama feeling story in terms of directorial styleWell to be fair it kinda jump into Hollywood tier in terms of success. shonen hit movie only often range from 150M to 250M. Hell if mugen train didn't make 500M I don't think IF would be make into 3 part at all.
Predict how other Mangaka will comment on Chainsaw ending
>>286988028I think you are conflating the meaning of a "run" with a character with the overall IP.Tim Burton Batman doesn't mean that Adam West Batman story never ended, it has a life on its own.
>>286970217I loved AssClass, but only seen the anime, 2 season and the story actually ends, feels such a rare thing, I do wish they would have avoided the japanese trope of>uh despite having confessed to the girl I like we are not together because I am a wimp but I am also an assassin so I am not a wimp.........WHAT?!
>>286993840Why would anyone want anime to go Hollywood? Shit like One Piece is already flying too close to the sun with that Netflix bullshit. Demon Slayer needs to stay as an anime niche. Nothing good ever comes from drawing Hollywood's attention. Ever.
>>286992962>men
>>286993006I dont even care how much KnY makes anymore. It's still crazy how insanely popular it got and continued to get. I really thought it would have fizzled out 3 years ago because of how fast people move on from shit.
>>286962078>everyone suddenly hates KnK nowWhat happened?
>>286994841zoomers found the website
>>286995156Oda was worth $200 million well before any Hollywood deals, that was ages ago. I can't imagine how much money he's got now
>>286995156Its not just Japan though is the thing. How many people around the world do you see foaming at the mouth for Detective Conan or heard of Sazae-san? Its been 6 years since episode 19 and its still pulling in massive amounts of attention. I honestly cant think of a major country where it isnt still insanely popular. It honestly freaks me out.
>>286991997The ending ending or the final battle? I can never tell which people are referring to when they say it trash.
>>286962078This kind of pseudo intellectualism has already become very ineffective in recent years I've noticed. The "You just don't get it, it's ACTUALLY genius" argument is only losing ground by this point. I think people are better at sniffing out obvious cope
>>286984292>>286985213yikes.
>>286962718it was up until recently one of the most controversial endings out there with people hating part 6 exclusively because of it, i personally always thought it was effective and well done, but with "higher concept" endings like that it's never about the broad strokes you can summarize but the execution (which specifically includes all of the lead up to the ending too)
>>286963955ok now he's got 5 good endings, maybe 6
>>286961430Bleach is far worse than all in op and it won't take any of them being Cancelled for ten years to get their ending animated (and also probably rewritten due to how bad it was)Retard
>>286961318It is a long and honoured Japanese tradition.
>>286984292kek you can't be serious
>>286996316Where's the video of your hand rajeshquarious?
Dude this is just sad. Its been 6 years, hang it up.
How is he doing it?
>>286996457kek, winnie(although bro don't post any more that niglet doesn't deserve your effort fr)
>>286984768>>286984292Glad I dropped in this thread for the monthly Jeremey humiliation.
This reminds me of when Gyutaroroastie posted her tits.
>>286996457Yup i'm thinking kimetsu bros won
>>286996457jeremy has been doing this for 15 years, kny is just tied to him because of how much he sperged over its success. still, you won king
>>286961318>modern shonen thing?Even in Japan, the idea that most shounen manga have bad endings has been common for decades. There's a shrtlist of "battle manga with good endings", and it's always basically just>Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken>Ashita no Joe>JoJo Part Whatever (basically just writer preference)And nothing else. Most manga endings are just disliked in general.>Dragon Ball ends with Goku fucking off into the ether with an indian child>Yu Yu Hakusho ends like it got cancelled>Kinnikuman just stops >every Kurumada work ends like it got cancelled (half the time because they literally did get cancelled)>Hokuto no Ken beyond Raoh is one of the most infamous manga in general>Naruto ends with the basic trite "and then everyone had identical kids and peace reigned forever and ever, let's not bring up the genocide">Bleach ends on a long series of asspulls followed by an identical children timeskipetcThis is nothing new.
>>286961318Old Shounen had shit endings too>Goku fucks off with some Indian Kid to train them instead of spending his life with his family>Naruto doesn't fix the Ninja system and is a bad dad to his son>Hitman Reborn had a non ending that undercut the series>YYH's Manga ending was non-existant>Hokuto No Ken 2, which was already unneeded, ended with Ken being perma alone after Yuria dies from Cancer and he No Way Fags RinAnd I'm sure others can name a few more
>>286985213honestly hard to bet whether this guy or 4chan will die firsthopefully both
>>286997926Didn't think people still used Nokia phones.
>>286998036don't be poorphobic...
>>286997926>noooo you're a lightskinned muttLol knew you would come up with some kind of cope. Keep being a slave to KnY on this board you supposedly don't frequent (but still somehow find the time to seethe about it as soon as it's mentioned)
>>286964724i remember when we were reaching the end, people wanted tanjiro to be possesed by muzan and another arc of nezuko becoming a demon slayer, joining a new crew and hunting demon-tanjiro and his cronies
>>286961318Oshi no Ko
>>286984208The final fight of 5 sucked but the ending was good. 8 is the only real stinker he's written
>>286966080nah let it go dude
>>286961318Undead Unluck even though the last arc was rushed
>>286961318Didn't notice the thread and won't bother reading its entirety but>Fire Force>Elusive Samurai>God of Destruction Magu-chanCome to mind as recent shounen with great endings, also Undead Unluck but the last arc is really rushed so I understand if that heavily underwhemms the endingOut of the ones you mentioned in your OP I know that SNK's editor got arrested for killing his wife and pretty every manga that editor was involved it went to shit after that, besides SNK I remember Quintuplets was under him too, but that also might just be schizotheorism since by the time he was arrested he had already stopped being an editor for bothMHA's mangaka is just a legitimately bad writer, or at the very least he's really bad at handling a cast as massive as the one in MHA, certainly didn't help that near the end he got stuck with one of the worst editors in Jump who later got transfered after Horikoshi complainedHaven't read the other two
>>286961318Man, MHA does not deserve to be put with these shitheaps. An average settle-down 5/10 is not nearly as shit as "actually I was a slave to fate the entire time" or "the live you just lived sucked and it would be better for everyone if never happened".
>>286964666You cant be this dumb.
>>286987089No you don't, because Tanjiro doesn't become a wageslave after beating Muzan
>>286999425He started in a shounen magazine but then swap to a seinen one mid SBR.So in all fairness he doesn't write shounen anymore but most of his endings are shounen
Chase away the thread demons, Shinobu-san.
>grok make the hand in this picture white, don't change anything else
>>286961318Meanwhile non-serious shows have better ending. Yugioh ended 20 years ago.
>>286964724GODmetsu no GODba?AAAAIIIIIEEEEEE PUREEZ ACCEPT MY CONCESSION AS A CSMSISSY
>>286988954Who's ACK?
Now that the troublemakers are gone, let's ask ourselves:What DID Ufotable mean by pairing Shinobu-san with a snake? The implications could be dire...
>>287002092>No cultural footprint"According to Poll, Japanese Kids Admire Tanjiro More Than Their Parents"lollmao
>>287002313>Japanese KidsAll twenty of them?
>>287002360Is that your best argument kek?Also post a video already easiest way to verify your claims. But you won't... Or rather, you can't~
>>287002281Poisonlady so snake I guess? But she's literally just the "bug" hashira so........
>>287002398It's not an argument to say that the Japanese barely have any kids.
>>287002420Exactly my point, you have no argument.You're getting sloppy, ruggarell.
>>286967468Read part 1 and end it there, it was lightning in a bottle>>286982663>>286988969You both bring up spiderman (maybe a samefag) but this would be like spiderman giving up his powers to be peter parker full time, bad shit will still happen with or without spiderman but now hes powerless to do anything about it and the guilt will devour peter
>>287002420Post the video.
>>287002092Nice cope for being outsold by KnYAll your favorites kneel, outsold by the new GOAT
>>287002092How does it feel being black
>>287002572Probably retarded It feels like being retarded
>>286985213Yikes that is a lolcow alright"Jeremy", will remember the name
>>286962078bait used to be believable
>>286961318I'm sure that the statistically proven low literacy of the modern generation has nothing to do with it (it probably does).
>>287001575>KnY also sold more per volume than Naruto and dragonballI don't care about the sales war, but Shueisha (rather infamously) refuses to update DB's sales numbers. Their current ones are the same ones from 2002, and have been contradicted by other sources. This is because Shueisha has a really weird relationship with DB in general, once you actually look at how they treat it it gets odd (like how they never even had an obituary for Toriyama when he died, despite doing the same for other mangaka). Probably to do with Toriyama establishing Bird Studio and going around Shueisha (which eventually led to things like Capsule Corp Tokyo happening). But, for DB's manga sales. >2002Is the 260m claim, confirmed at Jump Expo.>2005300m, which got confirmed by Nikkei, as well as Toei's internal and Shueisha's industry documents.>2008350m, confirmed by Oricron, Sankei, Weekly Playboy, and Livedoor.>2013The 350m number is reaffirmed by Fuji TV.And the sales were never updated again, and despite the far greater numbers, Shueisha consistently holds the 260m number that is now nearly 25 years old. Realistically, a lowballed number for DB manga sales would put it at close to 10 million sales per volume today, though given Toriyama's death (which led to several different reprinting of the manga), as well as the newest edition of the manga, the number is likely far higher.Again, don't give a shit about the sales war here, just pointing out that DB's numbers cannot be trusted and Shueisha have a weird hateboner for Toriyama.
Is this dude samefagging half the thread?
>>287004261It's necessary containment, it's going to make another thread if left alone for too long.
>>286976745This is ad hominem
>>286976745>Deku sacrificed everythingNo he doesn't, he just stops being relevant and does nothing for no real reason. The lazy cuck literally had to get a handout super suit just to larp as a pro hero years down the line.The idea of a hero who actually makes sacrifices and is venerated and honored for them is simply foreign to the American brain.
>>286961430They were just retarded shippingfags. I also couldn't imagine glazing the Naruto’s ending but hating on Bleach’s
>>286964377gonna have to capitalize on dorohedoro then and maybe a dai dark anime
>>286962718because we saw how they tried to fight pucci back (whose powerup was set up and hyped for the latter half of the story) and failed miserably, with the only survivor being the one whose powers aren't meant for combat, yet he managed to pull it off; seeing that his struggle paid off with everyone "returning" makes you accept the reset timeline.in csm we didn't saw any futility against the bugs, we didn't saw denji realizing he fucked up big time, the finale of the apocalypse was off-screened, and pochita barely managed to lecture to a dumbfounded denji on why he fucked up. sure seeing that everyone is back felt nice but this shit needed more set up to make it worth it
>>286994780>It's still crazy how insanely popular it got and continued to get. I really thought it would have fizzled out 3 years ago because of how fast people move on from shit.Yeah Kny really was an anomaly on its own. I believe when Jeremy said that IF wouldn't beat mugen train he fell in the same line of thinking that people had move on from KnY after it end.
>>286987676Based. Mizukami is probably one of the most consistent in the biz when it comes to actually ending his manga and making it satisfying but he doesn't write for a shounen mag
>>286961318MHA:Vigilantes had great ending tho.
>>287007098kek. glad he capitulated then
>Notorious mentally ill schizo retard constantly shitting on any anime that upsurps his favorites like Naruto, DBZ and MHA>KnY mindbreaks him so badly in 2019 he massively seethes about KnY's success with all sorts of copes>Has been going at it for six years and counting>Spends months claiming Infinity Castle wouldn't destroy the box office like Mugen Train did because no covid, Superman(lol), F4(double lol), Jurassic World(Triple lol) would hurt its run>becomes massively successful everywhere and smashes records left and right>melts down so hard he starts calling everyone Argentinian, Spics, Latinx etc and demanding passports and hands>Two anons deliver>He posts an expired denmark passport on a cumstained filthy mattress>claims he is white and European>anons demand hand as proof and he refuses for months>another anon posts his hand a different time and when told to follow up he deflects to how hairy his arms are>suddenly has "proof" that he has superior white viking blood>Its AIHe truly is the gift that keeps on giving
>>287007778kek
>>286961318I was discussing this with a friend yesterday; I was shocked that my only answer, for this decade at least, is Orb. everything else has ended in either disaster shitheap, a disappointing payoff or is incomplete in some way or another. Why is it that male mangakas always shit the bed when it comes to their endings? Are they cracking under the immense pressure or are they simply retarded?
>>286984292>used AI to make his hand whitenooooo hahahahahaha why hahahahahah nooooo why do this to yourself hhhahahahah
>>286961869The thing about the Aot ending retroactively destroys all previous events and renders the entire story meaningless.It was a spiteful character assassination, and all for what? To appease retarded Mikasa fans? I am not trying to fight you, I agree the csm ending sucks too, but Aot is no work of art. It should have been, and it was on the right tracks to do so, until suddenly it wasn't and fell harder than Icarus.
>>286961318You may honestly be retarded. Isekaislop might be more your speed.
>>287007778>>286984292Generational lolcow
>Jeremy had to run to his black momma to ask how to make an AI video so he's gone nowKWAB
>>286961866>The heroes win, the villains are defeated forever, and the world is peacefulThat is NOT a good ending. It is a nice ending, a feel good ending
>>286961318>MHA had shit endingNot really. The worst part about it was not elaborating on the other characters besides izuku and that was basically fixed in the anime and the extra chapter.
>>286965351>>286988891>>286970300>>286987713He didn’t though. The Buu saga is garbage up until Goku and Vegeta take over.
>>286964724I never hated kimetsu. If anything kimetsu peacefully faded
>>286991997>by me and a couple of 4chan retards
>>286966208>well made Is this bait?
>>286966833>>286984292
>>286988028Watchmen has an ending.All-Star Superman has an ending.Batman: Year One has an ending.The Dark Knight Returns has an ending.Daredevil: Born Again (the comic book) has an ending.Batman: Long Halloween has a kinda stupid ending (that I thought was great when I was a kid)Marvelman (also known as Miracleman) has an ending or two. Or three.Garth Ennis's Punisher MAX has an ending.Ex Machina (no relation to the movie) has an ending.Etcetera
>>286961318MASHLE's was fun since it was in line with the characters. The MC learned humility and the villain showed himself to be a really huge scumbag while also proving he was as powerful as he claimed while still giving the hero the win.
>>287010110>comic made in contempt of the state of the medium has an ending>proceeds to mention all specific runs of heroes that were rebooted the following month..kill yourself actually
>>286961318Not just a recent thing, shounen has consistently had bad endings. Most manga/anime in general has bad endings though desu. >>286995487Yeah, people seem less tolerant of stupid shit like that lately
>>286961318>>AoT had shit endingOne of the best endings in both weebshit and literature.>>MHA had shit endingAbsolutely solid ending>>JJK/Modulo had shit endinghaven't seen yet>>Chainsaw Man had shit endinghaven't seen yetIt is time for mangafags/I read it first gatekeepers to admit they are retarded?You guys cried wolf more times than i can remember. Yet every single time you are proved laughingly wrong.
is this what they call "do nothing and win"?Because I never cared about those shit series,when random camwhores who stick pink vibrators up their ass cosplay as characters from an anime I just know it's ultra trash and I should stay away (among other red flags)
>>286984292HAHAHAHAGAGA
>the ending was bad mangafags about to be btfo yet again once Cour 4 drops.
>>286998990Undead Unluck does everything right and got absolutely nothing for it. Its truly just too good for this gay world
>>287010552UU is not good. The plot is somewhat interesting but the characters are completely garbage, they have far too wide a range of behavior and don't have a "character" to them, they just do whatever the author feels like. So the plot is neutered. Plus the tone is all over the place
>>287004039Cool story! DB still generates $1 billion dollars every single year. It's a cultural and commercial monster that doesn't even need new manga volumes to keep printing money. It just quietly generates $1 billion dollars through merch, games, movies, theme parks, you name it. It's one of the few anime franchises that left its anime bubble and became a true global pop culture institution. Semen Smeller never left its anime bubble.One Piece is also a true global phenomenon that took the world by storm. That Netflix live-action show did more for One Piece than the anime and manga ever did, turning it into a smash international hit. One Piece has bikini Nami cards causing stock market chaos with investors and that TCG is literally outselling YGO and Pokemon, which is fucking wild. Now THAT'S a real cultural footprint. Can you say the same thing about Tanjiro and his jobber pals who only exists so they can die? I don't like Oda, but I respect the hustle. Man turned his comic into an empire and Shueisha into his bitches. The Semen Smeller hack is both Shueisha and Sony Music Japan's bitch, though. Which is pretty sad, but that's business.>>287008949>>287010540>>287010064First, you're a spic. Second, you're chronically online. Third, Truthscan can produce false positives on human images. Low res images/screenshots/pics compressed by phones can trigger false positives due to noise in the image file, which the detector confuses with AI, pixel shit. Also, pics taken from unusual angles can cause the software to wrongly identify anomalies. Having said that, it's all irrelevant at the end of the day. The REAL topic at hand is shounen and bad endings. Semen Smeller is one of them too. Had a cheesy ending that didn't have any lasting impact on the industry. I'm genuinely surprised how 6 years have passed since it ended and it didn't inspire anything or leave a cultural footprint. Chainsaw Man ended like trash, but it will be very influential in the upcoming years.
Lol wtf. >[Error: You are temporarily blocked from posting for violating Global 3 - Troll posts.]What I said was you manga/scan guys guys have been crying wolf for years. And by you guys i mean the terminally online weeb crowd that reads the manga chapter the second it's out JUST TO IMMEDIATELY rush to the proverbial comment section, in this case /a/, and discuss the chapter, make up headcanons and memes. For you, clearly, the entire point of manga/anime is the conversation. You have to realize you create a distorted view of the manga in your head and you ruin shit for yourselves. That's why literally every single fucking time a manga is animated you end up being blown the fuck out. That's why weebs hate other weebs.