>Ruins isekai forever
>>287310146newfag
>>287310146That would imply it was better beforehand, but it was always shit
How so? It's a solid title, and if you're mad about stuff randomly throwing in magic slave contracts, I think Mushoku Tensei did that first
>gives you the cutest thing on the planet for a single episode and then gets rid of it foreverStill like the series but this will always make me upset
>>287310146That's a funny way to spell Sword Art Online.
>>287310772not an isekaialso it's Zero no Tsukaima that was the super influential title on this era's isekai, for better or worse
>>287310718doe she die horribly?
>>287310871yeah she gets flung into a wall at near light speed
>>287310146The author now writes Anti-NTR TS novels.>faggotExtremely so.
>>287310862>Zero no TsukaimaNo game mechanics + status screen
>>287310146Nah, that'd be sword art online.
>>287310196Incorrect. Escaflowne was good.
>>287310903thanks; i shall not be watching this one.
>>287310146SAO did that in 2012.
>>287310146Mushoku Tensei is the point of origin that all modern isekaislop derivates from
>>287310862Shut the fuck up, you don't know shit. ZnT and its shitty fanfics were a part of it, but the series itself has absolutely nothing to do with modern isekai. SAO played a way bigger role in that.
>>287310718they grow up too fast...
>>287310196>Now and Then Here and There>Tanya>Narnia>Alice in Wonderland>INUYASHA
>>287312673>Mushoku Tensei 2012>Konosuba 2012 mm I'm noticing
>>287310146It was the shitty vr anime that poisoned thole whole "other world" genre dooming it to a low effort copypasted game isekai shit.
>>287310625>>287310862>>287310952>>287312735Rance already did all that in 1996.Mushoku Tensei and Re:Zero writers playing and getting inspired by it just confirms.Isekai are just Rance ripoffs without the good parts.https://alicesoft.miraheze.org/wiki/History_of_The_Continent
>>287313578You're not being clever by recognizing similarities like these. Tappei's inspiration, specifically in regards to Re:zero, were visual novels in general and the way they presented routes and bad ends. When talking about the actual timeline of modern isekai and what works were the most influential, it's very blatantly clear that Rance had fuck all to do with it.
>>287313578You're clever and it's obvious Rance kickstarted Isekai.
>>287310146Ruins? It barely did a splash, retard
>>287313664>le big giant white whale antagonist>Hornet>Satella>Lia>カーミラ>フェリス yup no relation at all
>>287313881>"I made some thingies in re:zero vaguely similar to something I saw in Rance">GUYS RANCE INSPIRED ISEKAI. ISEKAI ARE JUST RANCE RIPOFFS WITHOUT THE GOOD PARTSkill yourself retard
>>287310196Log Horizon was good though.
>>287310196Not true. It was much better.
>>287313664>>287313944>50 tropes that predate all isekai (such as the slave-as-lover)>no relation at all bro, we wuzz sword art online dragon quest and sheeet, isekai writers don't read problematic eroge, isekai started from isekairetard
>>287314719>>no relation at all broSaid who now? You're so saying so much stupid shit because you can't admit being wrong and knowing nothing about this topic. So many years and rancefags are still obnoxious retards.
>>287310146I actually agree with this after thinking about it. It’s 100% the one that popularized the whole “I was betrayed and now I’m super OP” genre that now is like 99% of every new work. It’s so cancerous that it spread to works that aren’t even isekai.
>>287314792oh I see, you’ve never played the games, this discussion was pointless from the start
>>287314682Stop posting axed series bro....
>>287314847It's getting a season 2, I just have to be patient.it will...return...
>>287314955was fun while it aired. too bad he never fucked the rabbit.
>>287314955Anon the novel got axed, mondaiji is "finished" but last embryo got nuked
>>287315027>>287315076SHUT UP
>>287315130>Japan makes the perfect protagonist>AIEEEE he's nothing like me I can't relate!!Talking about this series is like opening up an old wound. Forgive my outburst.
>>287315232The series got axed because of the editor that lie to the author not the fans
>>287315232>perfect protagonist>himYou must love Solo Leveling.
>>287310918Explain further.
>>287312781This was the end of the world Nostradamus actually predicted once.
>>287312752Portal fantasy isn't isekaiIf you need to reach for something British, you've stepped way too rar outside the genre
>Ruins 4chan forever
>>287316289> So, Nostradmus, the world will end in 2012?> What? No. You misunderstood. I said that 'another world' ends in 2012. After that its all shit.> ...Another world?> Yeah, as in, the genre.> I don't know what you're talking about.> Because you can't see the future. Trust me, I'm right. Sword Art Online started the downward spiral, but it becomes unrecoverable after Mushoku Tensei-> Nostradamus what the FUCK are you even saying?> THEY RUINED ANIME FOR LIKE 20 YEARS. Oh right there's also going to be a plague or some shit after that write that down.
>>287310625Anything with video game ui shit and "ability" unlocks just fucking sucks. The shit was rotting stale back then, I don't even have words for how putrid and dead Isekai is now. Same recycled bullshit over and over. It's gotten to the point I recoil at the words "hero" and "demon lord" on an instinctual basis. I don't even watch regular fantasy shit because it's all so played out.
>>287310903Bro... she's only like 20(in raccoon years)
>>287310146Sorry wrong pic guys
>>287310146Isekai was never a high art gene though. Re;Zero did way more damage popularizing isekai slop as much as it did.
>>287318799I have yet to watch this masterpiece. My expectations are insane by this point.
>hurr hurr I hate isekai, I don't watch nor read any isekai because isekai are shit! >yet I am also the biggest isekai expert to exist ever, somehow! >I know about isekai better than anyone who actually watches/reads isekai because... I just do!
>>287318996It's kino of the highest caliber. The show has an amazingly interesting story and the plot is as unique as it gets. You'll never find another protagonist who is as interesting as Kirito. If I may, a Shakespearean anime.
>>287310146I'm not sure if it was first at any of those but it has brought into the "mainstream" and popularised the hero gets betrayed by some pointlessly cruel retard making grotesque evil faces while gloating and the whole slave animal-girl companion tropes.Probably the worst 2 inventions of isekai genre.
>ywn watch SAO+fairy arc+GG for the first time a second time
>>287318799SAO is credited with starting the modern isekai trend, but it's really not that bad itself. Also in some way it's very atypical for the genre because rather moving to a fantasy and/or gamelike world, they are in trapped in an actual videogame and later arcs not even trapped. It just has to come up with contrived reasons why playing games really hard will solve whatever real lifer issue they have.
>>287318996>>287319056>>287318799Only the first 14 episodes are good, once he logs out of the first VR isekai world you should stop watching it because it turns stupid
>>287313578>Isekai are just Rance ripoffs without the good parts.yes, pretty much thisIt has everything that modern isekai usually have - demon lords, yuushas, harems, modern day anachronisms, levels, slave girls, adventurers' guilds and even starbucks.Despite all that the actual world-building is still stellar
>Accel world S2 never ever
>i've been framed and an angry I will get my revenge by buying slaves because I can't fight because reasons>oh boy I get to have my revenge>o woman who slandered me and yuusha party no retardu I will have my revengeance by legally renaming woman to bitch>k>somehow gets 3 more seasons of nonsenseEven with the downgrade to a worse studio starting in s2, how did this garbage manage to secure more episodes than actually good properties?
OP might be onto something>I was le betrayed (by a w*man) and became a pariah but now I'm super powerful and out for revenge!>video game system in a completely non-videogame settingDid anyone else do these cancerous things prior to Shield Hero or was it the original progenitor?
>>287321449Video game systems was commonplace in no-name isekai, revenge wasn't that big. Even Arifureta was lowkey.
It should've just been him and Raphtalia. And wild trauma bonding sex
>>287320687>>287314719It is quite literally isekai. The demon lord and her faggy boyfriend are from a different world (modern day earth, japan)
>hero is a "fake yuusha" Frieren is MGQ if MC didn't try to save and fix the demons.
>>287321018I don't even care about the revenge part, what pisses me off is that>Always nags the other heroes like an annoying cunt>Told he has to cooperate with the other heroes>Gets nuked by a space laser>Uses that as yet another opportunity to nag the other heroes>His braindead slave puppets all take turns agreeing with him>villain uses this as an opportunity to launch another nuke, because fucking duh he would>Nags the other heroes YET AGAIN.>His braindead slave puppets all take turns agreeing with him AGAIN>everything is a thinly veiled attempt at saying "aren't gamers fucking stupid and aren't Light novel readers so smart and practicalz'Our hero and main character everyone, please fucking kill me. I want to die. Why is this so highly rated, this is like a power fantasy for annoying self righteous women.This is literally fucking torture.
>>287323600>Why is this so highly ratedIs it? Aside from a few die-hard fans like that tripnigger, I don't think you will find anyone on this board telling you it's especially good and argue in favor of it. It's not exactly "fine dining" even purely by isekai standards.
>>287323600have you tried dropping it and not thinking about it or going to the threads? that's what I usually do
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>>287312673That would be SAO and Zero no Tsukaima, actually. Although Mushoku Tensei is definitely the most influential of the 2010's.
Tensura is the God of Isekai. Most metrics prove that. Especially the 5-cour announcement for S4, a treatment which at this point only mainstream battle-shounen or ""classics"" receive.
>>287323799It makes the most money, but sadly it's trash.
>>287310146was there any particular reason why they skipped like 5 novels between season 1 and 2?
>>287323697>a few die-hard fans like that tripniggerTripspic, actually. God damn Mexican still hasn't given me my tacos.
>>287323697I've seen a lot of people outside of 4chan like it. I don't just come here or always trust you guys either because anons can be kind of retarded.>>287323720I dropepd it but it lives forever rent free in my head, I thought about dropping it earlier but thought Naofumi would change for the better.Naofumi just did a bunch of side quests and got a bunch of groomed, child groupies to jerk him off over how right he is. he's literally a discord mod.
>>287323799It's mediocre power fantasy slop. No one who doesn't love isekai will like it
>>287323600Yeah even i thought that was too much.The manga and LN handled it differently. after getting Jesus Beam'd naofumi and the others prepared themselves to fight the pope, with little back and forth or anything, just naofumi begrudgingly going along.I liked the anime but i'm not blind to it's flaws, specially season 2.
>>287324477Ah yes, the "power fantasy" of meetings.
