>Japan’s Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry (METI) is preparing to provide 11.5 billion yen (~ USD 71.1 million) in subsidies to 15 major entertainment companies to accelerate their overseas expansion, while encouraging them to use AI translations.>The subsidy program will cover half of the investment costs required for translating the works of these companies into foreign languages, along with overseas advertising and also their participation in international events and fairs.>https://animehunch.com/japan-shueisha-bandai-crunchyroll-ai-translations/The future is here
>>288959964After the Yunyundenpa and a few others, I see no issue.
We already had this thread.
>they pocket the millions and keep using their chatgpt subscription to translatewhat is the point of this
>>288959964good, AI is much better than awful troonslations
>>288960055It's important and people aren't here 24/7
>>288960062To skim taxpayer money of course.
>>288959964
>>288960076depends what the ai are trained on
Does it dub it as well
>>288959964how does this affect anime
>>288959964GoodAI > Troonslators
>>288960148>how does having worse translations affect animeDo you have brain damage?
This is piratefags fault btw>These unauthorized sites attracted global users by providing translated versions of popular manga and anime before official versions were available in the market. The government is now banking on AI-driven translation as a major means to counter piracy by delivering official versions to the end users quicker.
>>288960232>Because they actually care about people having jobs and quality products.the industrial revolution really ruined everyone from having a job, huhit should be fairly evident by now that fighting any kind of technological advancement is a futile attempt, and stupid as well
>>288960284basedfuck people who won't support manga and their creators
>>288959964I'd rather have ai translations than troon localization. look at what happened with Yunyun >END FASCISM!
>>288960208>aeeeeeeeiiiiii my dubz are getting worse!!!!how does this affect Japanese animation
>>288960284What are you babbling about? Pirated versions are official versions.
>>288960299>t.
>>288960162Translations (even shit ones) >>>>>> AI of any kind>>288960196Everyone hates and fears ai for good reasons.
>>288960355>mentioning dubs out of nowhereMindbroken.
>>288960318>fuck people who won't support manga and their creatorsKind of hard to support creators when 90% of the shit people want is either never translated or is swag that isn't ever sold outside of Japan.When I was younger, I definitely would've bought translated versions of drama CDs if they were available. As an adult, I don't care about official releases because I know they're going to be 2+ years too late, long after I would've actually cared to buy it.
>>288960171>muh luddites Retard trannies like you won I guess.
>>288960409If you're crying about something that doesn't affect the actual Japanese anime behind your magic text curtain then you are the same as duboids, crying about irrelevant shit because you couldn't be bothered to learn the language
>>288959964I hate to say it, but it's the lesser evil.
>>288960029As much as I hat the left, the right lies more. They also tongue Israel's anus much harder.
>>288960495They did? When? Zoomers are more racist and "based" than millennials were
>rightoids willingly cucking themselves with AI because they're too stupid to learn Japanese
>>288960547>Zoomers are more racist and "based" than millennials were>Cancel Culture Zoomer generationLOL No
>>288960433You couldn't be bothered to learn the language so who cares what you think
>>288960577I'm not really left or right so I'm not trying to push a narrative, but that's just what it seemed like to me. Of course there are a lot of lefty zoomers who find everything problematic, but puritanism is basically widespread these days.
>>288960602>this retarded shitWhatever brain damage you resort to to cope with your cognitive dissonance.
>>288960437Who's paying you?
>>288960561They love AI because the right attracts useless, uneducated losers who can’t achieve anything on their own. All the bigotry is just a way to scapegoat marginalized groups for their own failures, but you can’t slur your way into creating art so they have no recourse but AI when they want to try to make cultural products. Same reason all these right wingers have jumped on the bandwagons of nerdy hobbies and pretend to be fans; they can’t make anything for themselves so they have to attach themselves to the communities leftist artists create around their works.
>>288960696You couldn't be bothered to learn Japanese, don't make it everyone else's problem
>>288960651>>288960602So why do they like Karl Marx?
watashi is the only ningen in this suredo that won the bunka war nyahaha
oh so this is just /pol/-litelame
Crazy how quickly this thread went off the rails. If it ever was on them. EOPs sure do have a lot of anger.
are we being raided?
>>288960810>noooooo they have arguments that rape my mind, quick someone censor my boogeyman!
>>288960824Since 2016.
>>288959964>>288960029>thread about AI bullshit>anon IMMEDIATELY makes it political
>>288960824doubt it, just most of the fake retards on this board care more about their politics than something like anime at the end of the day so they aren't really open to any discussion that doesn't adhere to it.
>>288960835Since 2011
>>288960398>Everyone hates and fears ai for good reasons.name 5 rightwingers who hate AI
>>288960859/news/ or was it /new/ were at least proper nazis, not this normalfag shit.
The silver lining with all this AI shit is that in ~40 years society will collapse from Climate Change. AI and the infrastructure the supports it will be destroyedI just hope that those who survive avoid repeating our mistakes and create a better world
>>288960889The early 2010s is when 4chan started to be flooded with right wing normalfags who’d been banned from social media and other sites, thus why suddenly there were so many people ranting about blood feuds with SJWs on reddit, tumblr, facebook. Mid decade’s gamergate and election tourism were the culmination of that process.
Genuinely ban everyone in this thread, left and right. This /pol/ filth needs to be exterminated from the board. Ban me as well for bumping this kuso thread.
>>288960954You need hope to keep fighting.The world will collapse, but you should still have kids because we must teach those who come next to be strong and endure it
>>288960972No, around 2015 was when reddit deleted a popular rightwing subreddit (something about Trump). Then they immigrated to 4chan and partially replaced the local culture.
uh oh I sense another neo clitty leakage
>>288960993mass immigrated*
>>288959964chat, is this real?
>>288960089Now that you're here we can finally solve this problem
>>288960982That's really retarded, but retards are the ones that shit out children in the first place so I guess it's a given.
>>288960993The slow migration in the years before that is what laid the groundwork for that mass movement
>>288960978/a/ has always been a left wing board and /pol/ tourists like you were never welcome
>>288961025Wow just like in real life.
Delete /pol/ and ban politics outside /b/
>>288961000>neo clitty leakageWhy do rightwing posters think about this stuff so much?
Why did my reply get deleted
>>288961056/a/ has never once in its history had a political slant tumblrcuck, at best we had semi libertarian values
>>288961122>semi libertarian valuesThat's mostly true of old /b/, that and ironic racist jokes for the sake of it.
>it's another "/pol/fag gets people talking about /pol/shit instead of the actually important thing happening"
>>288961056>/a/ has always been antithetical to japanese cultural valuesglad to hear it finally admittedRei is best and Usuka a shit
>>288961159The pessimism is a response to the environment and the realization that even the most valiant efforts are fruitless due to a lack of influence and power. It is not the cause of this state of affairs.
>>288961180>important thing>AI bait thread
>>288960029Kek, jannies angry at a post that was posted here and not even deleted back then. Reason given "off-topic".
>>288961180>he says while posting a /pol/ reaction image and not talking about the irrelevant thing because it isn’t actually important but rather the OP was /pol/bait from the start
>>288961195Anime and manga are left wing mediums like all art is, righteous have never created something valuable in their entire history of existence.
>>288961215>/pol/ reaction image/pol/ likes and knows toku?
>jannies deleting all the dunks on rightoid filth/pol/ filth is a protected class it eems
>>288961209The Japanese government funding MTL garbage is pretty important. >>288961215>/pol/ reaction imageHoly fuck.
>>288961258Nope. They seemingly are deleting random posts.>>288961284/a/ is not for discussing Japanese government actions. Other such meta threads get deleted all the time.
>>288961208Yeah that's just it. Those who pay attention to the state of the world become demoralized, while those who live in a fantasy keep pushing on ahead and perpetuating the problems that got us into this mess in the first place.As paradoxical as it is, you do need to have hope to make change.
>>288961284Go ahead and name the anime that screencap is taken from
>>288961284>Holy fuck.What I hate most is what happened to that Mahoraba girl.
>>288961320Are you religious by any chance?
>>288960089>people aren't here 24/7Not my problem.
>>288961365I have complicated religious views. Was raised Catholic and still am on some level, but I struggle with the idea of eternal damnation. I'd describe myself as somewhere between Catholic and agnostic
>>288960577Cancel culture has been used by conservatives since millenniaAnyway, the mods should just nuke this thread
>>288959964This will flop hard since Japanese has no gendered pronouns, so the AI will just make up random ones.
Sadpanda MTL slop spam is the future.
>>288959964EOPs get what they deserve.
>>288961639t. his country is falling apart because he voted an absolute retard into office
>>288961639Bigotry isn’t representative of traditional values, cultures around the world respect diversity and it’s only the parasites ruining civilization who promote bigotry as a cover for their own ruinous existence. You blame gays and blacks for your own incompetence and laziness.
>>288961639That’s just not true. Look at countries like Iceland, Switzerland, or Denmark, they are highly progressive and diverse, yet consistently rank as the safest, happiest, and most economically stable places on earth.With accelerationism driving rapid tech and social change, sticking to rigid past values just doesn't work anymore. Conservative nations that resist this evolution are getting left behind globally, while progressive societies thrive by protecting everyone's freedom and driving innovation.
>>288961708I thought you vote for your MP not the prime minister, also I thought K-money already resigned
>>288961639I didn't know gay aethist black trannies were powerful to fund political campaigns and make connections to CEOs and bankers.
>>288961313/a/ is for discussing Japanese government actions when they directly effect /a/.>Other such meta threads get deleted all the time.Because everything's gone wrong.
>>288961639>>288961724Retards who follow ideology.>>288961781Sane, intelligent, and knowledgeable.
>>288961809No ideology, just factsGenderbending existed in all traditional cultures and the bigotry that /pol/tards promote is simply a modern fiction
>>288960284This will only drive more people to seek out the pirated versions when the shitty AI subs make 0 sense
>>288961781>look at these white ethnostates>whose people can't stop gawking at how amazing everything is when they come visit a free country
>>288961878Where are the pirated versions going to get their subs if not AI? Fansubs are dead.
>>288961884You mean tourists visiting tourist traps?It's a fact that even your kind thinks your country is garbage compared to glorious Japan.
>>288961929Japan is great too, they're less free but they make up for it with cartoons with boobs in them
>>288959964Not sure if anyone else here remembers this, but a year or two back shonen jumps publisher had an unmoderated forum. While the results of that were hilarious unto themselves, the neat part was the website had like 8+ languages that an auto translator would automatically translate to whatever country you were in (with flags). This made the website 10x as funny, but what stuck out to me was how good it was, especially at the time. It could translate Japanese to English perfectly and vice versa (because Japanese anons were able to answer a question I had perfectly even with extreme context sensitivity. And what I got was a reasonable explanation for my question (Origin of the phrase "Moe is Justice"). Assuming its been developed sense, Im sure if they've developed that since it could translate most manga. Not real comment one way or the other if thats a good thing, but that website was great wish it would come back.
>>288961405Remember anon, the only thing that'll punch a ticket to hell in our group is entirely rejecting God.
anime is one of my only reasons to stay alive and AI also ruined it
honestly rather the series be AI translated than localized through some cali fags
>>288962026It'll still be localized, anon.
>>288962024if it's that important to you and you're relying on someone else to translate it for you in your own language then you've simply failed at life
>>288962075then nothing of value would be lost right?
>>288962024jesus christ, people like this actually exist
>>288961884White ethnostates like Iceland or Norway aren’t amazing because they’re ethnostates; they’re amazing because they have high trust, low corruption, and access to global markets. They are highly integrated into the progressive global order.Meanwhile, look at the actual 'white ethnostates' you probably mean: Russia, Hungary, or even parts of the US Rust Belt. They’re not gawking at us because they’re superior; they’re gawking because their infrastructure is crumbling, their economy is stagnant, and their youth are leaving.You’re not admiring a superior model; you’re admiring the fact that we still have functioning roads and internet while your 'ethnostate' is running on diesel generators and nostalgia.
>>288962147they have high trust because they're ethnostates, dummy, same as Japan and Rhode Island
>>288960113You niggers aren't ready to hear this but that dublation is as good (bad) as the Japanese. A terrible joke vs a coherent string of thoughts
>>288961972
>>288962094I'm too retarded to learn japanese
>>288962167"You used Rhode Island as an example of an ethnostate? "Rhode Island is diverse, progressive, and deeply integrated into the US economy. It’s not an ethnostate; it’s a state.And Japan? Japan is the poster child for why ethnostates fail long-term. Their homogeneity led to a demographic collapse, economic stagnation, and social isolation. They are literally changing their immigration policies because they can’t survive as an ethnostate anymore.High trust comes from strong institutions and wealth, not race. Norway has high trust because of its social democracy, not because it’s white. You’re confusing correlation with causation.
>>288962312I wouldnt say their homogeneity led to their demographic crises. Demographics in recent years have trended towards less children globally not just the west. Large parts of the ME and Africa are heading towards/below 2.1, and India and 1.9. Id hazard a guess that whatever is going on, it is not a matter of cultural policies or wars.
>>288962312>>288962167Anime should have been enough for you to understand Japan’s social cohesion is a brutal lie based entirely on crushing anyone who doesn’t read the atmosphere
>>288962363India is at 1.9* mistyped but you get my point. Not in opposition to anything else you said, just wanted to throw that in.
>>288962367
>>288962147>>288962312>>288962363>>288962367Holy fuck, we got niggas still using ai to write up their responses. Also ai-kun, Russia isn't an ethnostate it's filled with sandniggers. China is as close to fascism as you can get currently and China makes all of your white ethnostates like Switzerland and Norway (diverse when they are 98% white LMAO) not even come up as a blip on the big players radar.
>>288962230how about localizers just do their job properly? Well to late now that ai is litterally taking their jobs
FINALLY THE TROONS ARE GONNA BE SHOVED OUT OF WORKBRING ON THE AI TRANSLATIONSAND WHILE YOU'RE AT IT BRING ON THE JAPANESE VA AI DUBLATION
>>288962389Ai makes spelling and grammatical mistakes, like in my post? Say what you will, I know my shit is done bad enough to be identified as human (not esl, I just never properly learned how to write really)
>>288962389Calling China fascist while the US wraps up its latest military intervention in support of colonial goals and jackbooted thugs carry out mass deportations in between shooting civilians is hilarious
>>288962312Japan's problems are entirely economic and the result of their showa baby boom and absolutely trivial compared to any post-colonial nation engaged in constant civil war over control within lines that the great powers decided upon arbitrarily amongst themselves, or the many stateless nations who have to fight for minority rights within the borders of multiple countries with conflicting interests who will exploit them for their regional gain
>>288962391Localizers are doing the exact job they were hired to do, and it’s the translators providing them scripts who will be replaced by AI
This thread is god awful/Leftypol/ is still /pol/ go fling shit over there, don't start shit over here because you're too scared to argue over there
Raise your hand if you think this is a grift by some "entrepreneurs (fat old men who rely on fax machines" and bureaucrats to steal from the Japanese government.
>>288962540how does punctuation work
>>288962484>literal ai jeet responseWrite something in your own words>>288962456China is a fascists dream and to top it all off, they get to commit mass murder to a group of people (uyghurs) in labor camps.
>>288962554Most western commies would be killed on the spot by China, they are based.
>>288962484>anon has time to respond to the retard but not even a cough for my insight that demographic collapse is prevelent in regions with entirely different socio-eonomic, cultural, and industrial circumstances
>>288959964hey that's a picture of my wife
>>288962554""seriously though, you’re confusing size with quality. china is big. norway is rich. they are not the same thing.and russia is not africa. stop hallucinating.now are you gonna admit you’re wrong or are you gonna keep citing total gdp like a high schooler?
>>288960284Theres literally no reason Japanese publishibg houses couldn't contract through free lance translators in order to translate their series, ibstead of going through Square Enix, Funimation, or fucking Sony.No, they use AI not because its a "better" product, read:its not, they use AI and have been trying to machine translate Japanese for decades to squeeze literally every fucking cent of margin from manga sales.Its been decades, and there still isn't a half decent online publication of manga, that allows me to spend 5$ to digitally purchase voljmes of manga. Its all fucking physical because the Japanese are so fucking cucked they believe even second hand sales of books is fucking heresy.
>>288963010>freelanceJaps don't want their shit getting leaked.
>>288963010who would've thought that companies try to decrease their bottom line. mind blown
>>288959964I hate everythingWhy are people so ready to fucking suck corporate dick when they say it's just "AI"
>>288962311I am more retarded than you and I still managed to learn it, you have no excuses
>>288963069it kind of spills out that you're a retard living on welfare when you write parnts on head retarded shit like that
>>288963131You're the one who can't type
>>288963069The answer is because the entity you call corporate doesn't run their mouth about how much they hate the people reading the translations and how they explicitly change things because seeing the customers get pissed off makes them happy, but yet there are many localizers doing that. If people had even an ounce of respect for localizers this would never happen but because they were antagonistic for over a decade now there are people who are willing to take literally anything else as soon as the option presents itself.
>>288963030What fucking leaks? Name a single fucking seties thats been leaked in the West, before it was released in Japan. Manga isn't that big of a deal you clown.>>288963059Doing it at the expense of the quality of your product, to the point where it obliterates the success of your product is fucking retarded you daft cunt.AI are a step above machine translations which themselves were so fucking famously bad, it either killed the popularity of series in the west, or fan translations ended up being the preferred method of consuming the series, which killed sales in the West, fucking shocker.
>>288963262>AI are a step above machine translations which themselves were so fucking famously bad, it either killed the popularity of series in the westsource: it came to me in a dream>Doing it at the expense of the quality of your product, to the point where it obliterates the success of your product is fucking retarded you daft cunt.you're making the point on you being on welfare and not having any real life experience even more spot on
>>288959964Everyday it's something new.
All this whining from /leftypol/ over ai. Normalfags don't care, the faster they get their translation the better and no one will be shedding tears when trannyslations go extinct, you simply were left behind by the modern world like all other luddites were
>>288963498>being pro human is le ludditeI can't wait to see chuds get killed in mass when terminator bots become a thing.
>>288963498>luddites bad
>>288963498Why do pol tards always do thisThey always try to coopt a sentiment and make it about their culture war shitAi should be stacking boxes not doing human centered things fuck yourself
so when will this come for video games. I want to see Nintendo Treehouse go down.
>>288963498>Normalfags don't careNormalfag consumers have never cared about being taken advantage of and are constantly defending corporations because they're terrified of being unable to consume. This is a pretty retarded argument.
>people don't want thing>Businesses do it anyway >Nothing happens
>>288963512>>288963559>>288963567>>288963581>BUT MY SOULFUL TROONSLATIONuh huh, no one cares and you should of did your reps instead of whining about AI like a bunch of toddlers throwing a temper tantrum
>>288963623Kill yourself /pol/ filth
>>288963623I genuinely despise you switch back over to that /v/ tab you have open
>>288963498I’m having trouble finding that board, it doesn’t appear on the list or 4chan’s homepage. Could you link to it?
>>288963640>>288963658>>288963660>b-bu-but my soulful fanfic troonslations will disappear only to be replaced by ai slop!And? Learn Japanese /leftypol/ cucks, you have no right to complain.
>noooo now all the time I spent learning a language to become a loocalizer will be wasted
>>288959964Insanely based, death to all localizers
>>288963701What board are you talking about? I can’t find it anywhere on this site. It’s lease link it to me
>>288960521lmao well it's definitely summer
>>288963701>makes everything worse>STOP COMPLAINING kill yourself
>>288963439Early Dragon Ball, a lot of DBZ, JJK, Sailor fucking Moon, a shit ton of Gundam, Kamen Rider, GTO, and many other late 90's to late 2000's seriesAnd what does welfare and "real life experience" have to do with AI translations being dogshit awful? They're not just bad, they're soulless. This isn't even a left vs right issue, its a bad fucking product that you're consooming like a happy little goyttle to own the troons. NEWSFLASH shit for brains, you're still consooming a bad product, which means you still fucking lose. Its the same fucking braindamage video game brain rotted retards will screech about with 60fps interpolated animation, as if a higher FPS will somehow guarantee you success in "winning" your anime viewing "match" like you're playing Call of Duty because theres less "lag" or some shit.You're dying on the most retarded hill possible, because you don't even have to fight this fight. Fan translations smoke the shit out of the tranny "official" translations AND AI/machine translations 100% of the time.
>>288960521The right is intentionally disingenuous their messaging only works through propaganda and misinformation
>>288963811No one's dying on this hill, EOP's get what they deserve and we can sit back and laugh.
>>288963623>>288963701Who quote?
>>288960029>END FASCISMThey really couldn't help themselves and now their progression won't even exist. Almost poetic.
>>288963811AI is objectively better than troonslations, Japan themselves agree which is why they are funding it in full force.
>>288963811>YOURE CONSUMING BAD TRANSLATION >oh do you know japanese >NO I DONT ACTUALLY >alright so why don't you learn it so you can leave the bad translations to me>NO YOU HAVE TO BE OUTRAGED AT THIS TOO>but I don't want to be I've watched enough anime to glean context from what's happening on screen and the words being said I'm fine with the subtitles not being close to perfect >FUCKING LEFTISTS AND THEIR WOKE AGENDA.>do you just want to be mad at stuff? Is their a mental illness label for that?
>>288963893Please stop projecting.
>>288960851>thread about AI bullshit>anon immediately supports AI>reply with muh politics boogymanThere is no worse blind man than the one who doesn’t want to see.
>>288963917>>but I don't want to be I've watched enough anime to glean context from what's happening on screen and the words being said I'm fine with the subtitles not being close to perfect >>FUCKING LEFTISTS AND THEIR WOKE AGENDA.See >>288961391>>288961373>>288960029
>>288963811Most fan translations are just an equivalent of official tranny translations today but with honorifics. Sometimes even worse. Defending current day fan translations is kind of embarrassing, the only one I've seen recently that wasn't total shit was the re:zero one but outside of that its either official localization or rub a dub dub trash.
>>288959964And this is bad how?
>>288963944Anon let me try again If all might gets a hole punched through his chest and he says Mai chesto and the subtitles says my chest hurts as much as it did learning about the existence of white supremacistsI would go that doesn't make sense he just say only his chestThe fact you go into a blind rage about accuracy and then pivot to some banter about woke ideology shows you care about one thing way more than the other and I can assure you it's not the subpar translation
how different is translation from anime to videogames?
>>288964011Remember fansubsDo you prefer them or do you like the corporate fansubs feel free to be a contrarian to defend your argument I can tell you I missed when subbing had fan passion behind it
>>288964018Well thank goodness woke troonslations are going extinct then, Japan investing 71 million USD is huge and should be celebrated. I'm excited personally.
>>288964066>Well thank goodness about xYou'll find something else to be perpetually mad about anyway your war doesn't stop
>>288964039Fansubs were 90% fanfic, no one cares except a vocal minority of nostalgic losers.
>>288964018>blind rage about accuracy and then pivot to some banter about woke ideologyBad faith argument.The three example I pointed out were all out-of-place translations. That you don't refuse to even acknowledge it, that's another matter entirely.
>>288964083Thank you contrarian now please wait for Crunchyroll to translate your favorite series
>>288964078No not at all, I only complain when I see idpol being intentionally inserted via troonslation and there's nothing you can do to stop the future. Your powerless, like an old man shouting at clouds as he gets left behind by the modern world. As other anons mentioned, normalfags don't care either so long as they get their tl faster. It's exciting.
>>288963926The now-deleted image was political, anon.
>>288960284People stop pirating after their favorite site gets taken down, I still miss batoto.
>>288959964Total trannylator death.
>>288959964>all that these that steal from the industry that think their complaints matter
>>288964110>IM SO EXCITED FOR EVERYTHING TO GET WORSEGenuinely kill yourself
>>288964092It's not about translations for you Let me try ONE more timeWhat's more important quality of life improvements or men playing in the women's sports leagues Now your immediate thoughts went to men in women's sportsWhy? Because you're not mentally well balanced you're a creature only motivated by anger and hate anything you claim to discuss is just disingenuous talking points to advance your agendaSo in your mind>We gotta get men out of women's sportsAnd you sacrificed quality of life improvements for millions of people because 10 dudes played in the NCAAYou're mentally ill
>>288963911>He unironically believes Japanese business men remotely fucking care about the wuality of the product they sell to the westIshiggitydiggitydobopbedebopado. I'd pay money for you fagaloons to spend thirty minutes with the average Japanese salary man, so you can experiece a fraction of the contempt the average Jap has for American weebs.>>288963945>Erm actushweally the fan translations?>Yeah, they're like le hekin terrible>One time i saw they translated my waifus onigirli-san with folded 60,0000,0000 times markle with onions misobi sauce filling as a "rice ball">BLECKH i almost puked, i had to hnsheath ny katana and repeat my mantras to calm my furious wrath
>>288963623>retard sits on high horse of knowing japanese>strongly pushes opinion about subject that doesn't affect people who know japanese>completely incapable of imagining that anyone with an opposing opinion on the subject could know japaneseWhy does this happen so often? Is it an IQ thing?
>>288964155Holy fuck this nigga is using literal irl human rights comparisons to fucking cartoons, you need to grow up.
>>288964183And you need to stop being on the same side as someone seething about poor translations
>>288964120And a clear example of why AI translations are far superior to modern localizers, as they clearly make very biased translation that differs from the original source material.>>288964155>It's not about translations for youI just pointed out three examples in which the translations differs a lot from even other official translation, and why AI translation are a better idea.I don't understand why you goo with such seething rage about it.
>>288964190Cry me a river, get replaced faster.
>>288964206If you haven't learned japanese by how you have no right to complain and if you do know Japanese and are still complaining you only want to argue and be mad
>>288964179>Eternal N3 cuck thinks his opinion matterslol, lmao. AI is what you filth deserve. Cope.
>>288964219Immediately after >>288964179? Really?
>>288964219That's like your opinion.I will give money to this companies that use unbiased AI translations as long as they offer them.
>>288963893>Using the lefts' own logic, 90% of all creatives from the past 5,000 years would be counted as massive far-right extremists.It’s especially funny when neonazi retards try to tell leftists what they believe and how those beliefs are applied. You build up these elaborate straw men about leftists in your online echo chambers and then go bananas when no one in the real world cares. If any of you retards spent half as much time making media as you do circlejerking over fantasies about what leftists are like, you might actually have some influence on nerdy hobbies.
>multiple reddit threads and blue sky posts in full meltdown on the net from majority translators and activistsNow I see what's happening, they are scared.
>>288964268What should we be happy that peoples livelyhoods are being taken away from them while rightoid filth cheer?
>>288964290>peoples livelyhoodsIf their marketable skills are unneeded they should retrain and work in something else. Same as cobblers and hatters.
>>288964290I'm fully against ai translation and I'm happy they're losing their translation jobs, don't be a black and white retard when there are shades of gray to everything.
>>288964268Die already
>>288964268Woah, a tourist from reddit and bluesky, I guess they do exist
>>288964309>>288964321Rightoid filth like you never deserved the translations those people made for you, you deserve nothing and you came into our hobbies like a virus all because you hate minorities. Go fuck yourself.
>>288964018This is all strawmen and adhoms. I don't go looking for those things and those examples are still very noticeable and out of place.
You will be replaced.
>>288964359You're trying a little bit too hard, it's just not believable.
>>288964206No, it wasn’t about translation at all, just whinging about leftists. And it being about translations or not is irrelevant to >>288963926 accusation of me being the one bringing up politics.
>>288964290>>288964331>>288964334>makes dogshit tls>gets replaced by dogshit just without the troon spiceI dunno, seems like a fair trade to me
>>288964437>gets replaced by worse dogshit that still has the troon spiceFixed.
>>288964359What have minorities anything to do with what I said?>>288964422>just whinging about leftistsHow is pointing out about clear mistranslations. Which even differ a lot from other OFFICIAL translations, something about politics or leftists?Point me out why on the two official translations one differs so much from the other.
>>288964437>makes decent/good tls>chuds whine about muh accuracy >ai tech bros replace it with literal garbageYou never cared about anime or manga
That yunyun translation really fucked up translators reputation and it even hit normalfags for how weird it was, can't say I'm surprised.
>>288964437Okay but why did you come here from reddit and bluesky?
>>288964459>>288964466Every ai tl I've seen has been much more accurate to the source compared to troonslations. It's good.
>>288964517>owning the libs is more important than a good localization What the fuck is wrong with rightoids
>>288964459>>gets replaced by worse dogshit that still has the troon spicePost example?
>>288964465> How is pointing out about clear mistranslations. Which even differ a lot from other OFFICIAL translations, something about politics or leftists?Point me out why on the two official translations one differs so much from the other.Holy shit.No, anon, it wasn’t that image.
>>288964397Why do AIniggers always think about "neo clitties"?
>>288964557>No, anon, it wasn’t that image.Then which one of the three I posted was the culprit to make you accuse me of being political?
So we're going back to fansubs ?
>>288964532They are fueled by spite and absolutely nothing else. People they don’t like being hurt is more important to them than their own wellbeing.
>>288964584The one in the fucking post I replied to. Jesus fucking christ, anon, are you seriously this illiterate?
>>288962484Next you will say that Russia doesn't have one of the highest AIDS and divorce rates.
>>288964587Effort is dead, fansubbing will never catch on again. All you'll get is more edits, mostly by people who don't know Japanese, with the rare exception for shows with a particularly passionate fanbase.
>>288959964Damn that's a lot of cash, guess the future really is ai translation. If there wasn't so many translators that tried to be woke activists I would consider defending them but at this point I think it's about time ai took the helm for mainstream translation.
>>288964490Most translations are that bad in general if its being localized from the east, but people can't be arsed to fucking make a 20 page document for every episode of anime showing why maybe 10% of the lines are flat out fan fiction and more than half of the lines in total are flawed in their inexactness and how it can change the way the story as a whole is perceived.Things like that blowing up are just bottled up anger being vented, I think usually people know the translations aren't good but would rather not address it because it compromises their enjoyment.
>>288964620Well, that reply chain pointed out to the three images here >>288964620Now, again, tell me how the official translation differ so much one from the other.
>>288964629Truly, there's only one thing left to do
>>288964657>Damn that's a lot of cash, guess the future really is ai translation.It's up in the air what happens when cash infusions dry up and AI providers have to start charging sustainable rates, although it'll probably still be significantly cheaper than minimum wage rush job translations are in this particular industry.
>>288964660Nah that yunyun tl didn't even try to pretend to be genuine tl. Who the fuck beyond the most mentally ill terminally online leftist thinks "END FASCISM" is a good choice. They had to rewrite the entire to from the ground up because the entire thing was some leftists fanfiction. AI in that case would be FAR better and that's why the pushback is basically a vocal minority at this point.
>>288964706Just because that line made you feel called out doesn't make it wrong. Fascists are subhuman, like you.
>>288964661I don’t know what post you meant to link too, but it doesn’t matter, because at no point did this reply chain link to a post with the image you’re thinking of.
>>288964557>stuff gets mistranslated badly>point it out>somehow it's the reader's fault for whatever fanfiction got in there and not the translator's
>>288964745>makes fanfiction slop>japan just decided to fund ai translation in the meantime>thinks they have absolute authority on the medium while fans complain >gets replaced>cries on the Internet about the heckin chudsIf only you did your job, a shame.
>>288964776Translators did do their job, technofacsists ruining the medium doesn't change that.
>>288964763Who the fuck are you quoting?
>>288964776He would get replaced no matter what. And so will you. You know that AI has a tendency towards a particular political direction, don't you?
these shit threads always happens in the waiting period between the anime seasons.
>>288964741Something that confuses me is that being enraged and cancelling people is one of the most in-demand activities there is. It's far more popular than enjoying anything. Yet at the same time, these same people think it's a good idea to cover up objectionable sentences that are prime material for just that. Don't they want to gather up and riot loudly against a fictional character or the author for this line instead of pretending it never happened? Where's the logic?You'd think they'd translate it faithfully but make the offending word 50% larger and put the author's fanmail PO box address on the screen.
>>288963944Anon, see >>288963944
>>288963926>reply with muh politics boogymanOne one side supports all this ai slop.
>>288964804>>288964809>Waaaaaah the ai replaced my fanfiction tl that a literal seapag/jeet could probably do betterYour luddite meltdown unfortunately wont change anything, ai is the future and Japan agrees.
Kill all ainiggers
>>288964842Funny how you guys are always against the establishment and stuff, but now you kiss your corporate overlord ass.You can't think.
>>288964874Why do you think they like AI so much?
>>288964874Says you, leftoids are no different. From 2008-2024 the establishment supported you and you supported it, now that the establishment turned on you the pressure increases bit by bit.
>>288964917I didn't say they're different or that I'm one of them. Your brain is rotten from binary politics. I'd go as far as saying that you're mentally ill.
>>288964917> that the establishment turned on youlol
>>288964836>One one side supports all this ai slop.See:>>288961391 (You)>>288961373 (You)>>288960029 (You)
>>288963262shonen jump? JJK leaks were basically the culture.
>>288964938>>288964968I will not go against the side that is harming my enemy. I'm not even right wing but if rightoids want to rape leftoids and the systems that supported them be my guest. I'll sit back and watch. The right will collapse as well. You think I'll defend commie filth when they are getting raped? No lol. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. In the end as long as the neoliberals and neoconservatives due out I won't complain.
>>288965019>I will not go against the side that is harming my enemy.Holy shit you're low IQ. What an embarrassing thing to say.
>>288965019Fence sitters are the most useless piles of trash
>>288965019>my enemyNot beating those mental illness allegations there, anon.
>>288965019Then enjoy the MTLs you're getting force-fed in the coming year. All while you aggressively complained about shit MTLs before.
>>288965060>>288965064I don't complain about translation though, I think this is a really good thing and I'm happy Japan is going through with this. If a translation is bad I just don't read it and move on so more content for me.
>>288965083>If a translation is bad I just don't read it and move onSo like the current situation.
>>288965097No not at all because from what I can tell ai tl appears to be more capable then current translators. If seven seas can output slop tls for classroom of the elite and mushoku tensei yet some AI user from the third world is capable of making a better tl I think the current product doesn't have any value as is so really it can only improve.
>>288965019>I’m not even right wing>commie filthWhy do you neonazis even bother pretending?
>>288965063You've already picked a side and you're investing effort into arguing for it, you're just larping as an enlightened reasonable opportunist because you're a retard that thinks claiming you're above it is louder than your embarrassing post count.
>>288965117>from what I can tell ai tl appears to be more capable then current translatorsThat “from what I can tell” is doing a lot of work.
I have decided that everyone ITT is retarded, deserves death, and anyone spending time here to argue absolutely fucking retarded kindergarten tier bullshit is a nigger.
>>288965143>>288965147>If you're not with me you are le boogiemanSpoken like true mindbroken commies>>288965157I mean yeah? It's pretty much universally agreed that most modern translation companies just contract it out to incapable retards paid basically nothing so yes AI is an improvement especially when I can see it with my own eyes, no amount of posturing will change that widely held consensus.
>>288965204Kill yourself rightoid filth
>commies kick out all the competent people out of the industry to create a commie circlejerk >even taunt consumers with purposely dogshit translations, since they're sure they won't be replaced >end up jobbing to Google translator, with literally no one rallying behind them since their trash is unironically worse than AI slopDivine comedy.
>>288965204>If you're not with me you are le boogiemanAren't you doing exactly the same thing?It escapes me how you think you're very clever.
>>288965229It's a cosmic joke at this point. It's to satirical to be real.
>>288965204>projectingI'm calling you a braindead hypocritical retarded faggot because you're posting like one, not because of what color you identify as. Extremely ironic but unsurprising for you to fall back to this.
>>288965204You’re really showing confidence in your viewpoint by pulling the “everyone knows that!” card twice in the same sentence.
>>288965229You don’t know what a communist is.>>288965286This guy knows the score.
>>288965229>>288965255They're not getting replaced because anyone sees a problem with their translation.If that was the case, they'd just fire the bad translators.You're just dumb.
>>288965242>>288965242>>288965283>tards think I'm a Nazi because I don't support their slop translation nepo circle
>>288965323I never said that.
>>288965323You make it obvious you’re a neonazi because you say all the same retarded shit as the rest of the neonazis. Anticommunism, general bigotry, etc instantly give you away. You’re not a fence sitter, you’re a far right reactionary twat.
>>288965323Nazis support ruining people's livelyhoods which you seem to agree with so I fail to see the issue?
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Man I love leftypol enaging with pol. It's like watching two clowns fuck each other in the ass.
>>288965351okay>>288965370>>288965394I'm auth libertarian, eat shit commies
this thread is like 60% disingenuous bait posts, sasuga
>>288965429>auth libertarianWeird pronoun.
>>288965429you can never enforce the state to have zero control over the people, that will only lead to chaos and your beliefs are dumb as fuck
>>288965429You’re a neonazi loser, the sort of worthless parasite attracted to fascism because you’re uneducated, unskilled and lazy so you fantasize only about ganging up with other parasites to steal from marginalized groups. That’s why trash like you cling to nerdy hobbies without ever making anything of your own, limited always to online echo chambers where you harass people in the industry and cheer for any negative news.
>we just can't have correct translations because we just can't!!!!It doesn't even matter for my end any more, I get translations with like maybe 5 ESL tier errors now whenever I watch anime but 200 localized lines corrected thanks to AI. I'm basically free and it only takes like 6 minutes to get the translation these days.I'd like it if other people would get good translations too but I think that is asking for a lot.
>>288965429>auth libertarianlmfao
>>288965500You're just a retard who doesn't notice the MTL errors.
>>288965457>>288965477I agree with the tech bros over commie cucks that's for sure. If you are so worthless that low tier infancy ai can replace you then you never had value in the first place.>inb4 it'll happen to you!Unlike the humanities my degree has genuine value in the real world and the free market is right to erase worthless slop. The people do not deserve anything beyond the life they were given including myself.>>288965496Weird ass projection, never respond to me again freak.
>>288960113Do you niggers seriously believe translations are gonna become good now?LMAO you're gonna get this shit added post translation alongside with sloppy text that doesn't make sense at all.
>>288965550It literally will happen to you
>>288965550>my degree has genuine valueBut you can't what it is?
>>288965323And you show even more confidence in your statements when you pretend those arguing against you said something completely different than what they actually said. In short, who are you quoting?You sure you’re not a rightoid, anon? You sure act like one.
>>288965540If that is what you believe then that is what you believe anon. I know it's a futile task to try convincing someone who has faith in an idea.
>>288965550>my degree has genuine value in the real worldHilarious that you pull your degree out of your ass for absolutely no reason, but are terrified to actually say what it is.
>>288965595>retarded gibberishI only told you a fact.
>>288965550It’s so funny when you broke incel neonazis larp as if you have value to society because you all pick the same stem fantasy
>>288965550>inb4 it'll happen to you!>Unlike the humanities my degree has genuine value in the real worldlollmao
>>288965572>>288965581>>288965608>>288965627>if my worthless degree was replaced that means you will too!Lol, lmao my law degree has more value than your entire worthless lives. Stay broke and stay mad.
>>288965643>thinks lawyers won't be automated
How did they go from foaming at AI, calling it Indian and jewish and slop and what not, but suddenly they're okay with it?
>>288965643Ooh law degree, that’s a new larp
>>288965643>law degreeA kike? Bruh, you're too much.
>>288961226autocorrect is right-coded. kek even your phone hates you.
>>288965643Holy shit, having a law degree and not being able to stand on anything but the degree itself is the most embarrassing thing you could possibly post. You spent enormous amounts of money and time and it didn't go anywhere and all you can do is cope as if the piece of paper itself somehow makes up for your failed life. I don't think you can dig the hole any deeper at this point.
>>288965643You have a fucking law degree and have to resort to misquoting people to win arguments?
>>288965720It's what lawyers do. They're most dishonest "people" you can find anywhere.
>>288965656Their handlers told them AI was good and being against AI was woke commie bullshit.
>>288965744Slow down anon. He didn't say he's a lawyer, he said he has a law degree. There's a massive difference that he was desperately hoping no one would pick up on.
Genuine question, how "accurate" is ChatGPT when it comes to translating Japanese? I basically use it any time to copy+paste Japanese text and feed it to ChatGPT for the english translation but I can never tell if I'm getting 100% faithful translation or if it's just making shit up
>>288965766I don’t think the LARPer thought about that difference before saying it was a law degree
>>288965789It's way funnier if it's true than if he made it up, but the only thing for certain is that he lost.
>>288962147>not x, yand these "people" are supposed to hate ai>>288962554china being fascist is mutt cope. "state capitalism" is a fed construction because they could not accept liberal free market capitalism failing as spectacularly as it did.>>288962484norway is an oil nation that is saved from endless occupation via racism.>>288959964MTLs are extremely good now, especially on large param models. LLMs have zero intelligence but they are experts at understanding semantics. the average mentally ill weeaboo soullessly grinding out anki is no comparison.it is possible to understand jap and still believe that llm-based mtls are the future of translation. I learned the language to read raws not as an ego boost.
>>288965771Just use DeepL nigga
>>288964971>SeeSee what? I know it's rightoids that always support this shit.
>>288965655>>288965659>>288965673>>288965691Americas checks and balances are useful mechanisms making it impossible for the human process to be replaced. You think an ai will suddenly automate the miller test that lolicons love to discuss? Do you believe obscenity can be defined by an ai? Do you think an ai can determine the very human aspect of abortion access? What about fair use? Do you think ai can remove the human process of this when my entire field can't even agree on authorship? Madison would be disappointed in the modern American political landscape, such raw unfiltered passion is dangerous. This experiment lasting 200+ years is impressive in itself, the founding fathers believed it wouldn't last more than a century. But I think this experiment is coming to a close. I'm probably talking to euros and third worlders though so I doubt any of you care. Anyway, this is off topic. Jannies should nuke this thread even if the op is on topic.
>>288965771>>288965856They both fuck up a lot. I don’t know a word of Moon and even I can tell, it’s that bad. If you want to use them yourself then go for it, I do too, but presenting that level of slop to others or wanting that to become the norm is fucking retarded.
>>288965019>I'm not even right wing>commie filth
>>288959964How do companies do AI translations? Is there a translation tool with an actual agentic workflow or are they just rawdogging the pages with AI? If it's the former, the quality could actually be decent.
>>288965902Based
>>288965902Madison was a retarded cuck and your just as retarded as that cuck.
>>288965902No, I don’t think it can do that. Not most of it, at least. I do think it’s going to be made to do so anyway, regardless of how much worse it makes things. And I think that because it’s exactly what’s happening right fucking now.>admitting he wants America to dieImpressive.
>>288965902>i'm uh, done posting now, i hope this thread gets deleted soonI can't blame you.
>>288965771It's better to feed it entire scripts for context.
>>288965902>priding himself of being part of useless scum, lawyers
>>288965902ai will replace lawyers anyway cope
>>288965751They listen to their handlers like dogs?
>>288965902>Jannies should nuke this thread even if the op is on topic.Cognitive dissonance is difficult.
>>288965902>leftypol seething in the repliesThey hate america like good russian plants
>>288966039I thought you were done posting? Do you still need to samefag for your ego?
>>288959964Why is the entire thread political shit flinging, it's not political to say you like or dislike ai.
>>288966086rightoids cutting their legs off to own the libs
>>288966086AI threads have been overrun with political bait for a long time now, not sure why.
>>288962723>The US is the core of empire for literal childfuckingIt is known.
>>288966086/leftypol/ having a schizo melty over their troonslations getting nuked
>>288966086Immigrants and clowns fighting.
>>288959964Wait wait wait, so instead of making the translations THEMSELVES with the help of AI... they will continue to utilize shitty (western) middlemenn and pay THEM to use AI to make translations which they then release instead of the original publisher? Fucking pathetic. Why cut out the parasites and make more money when we can just pay the parasites more! Fucking what?
I could accept MTL being used to supplement human translations. Machine translator, human editor that speaks/reads Japanese to check and smooth out it’s work. That’d be fine.The problem is that AIfags have absolutely zero standards. Look at the MTL garbage filling the fjords as of late, this shit is so ass. And I have absolutely no reason to believe the soulless corporate translation machine would be much better. >>288966039>Madison would be disappointed in the modern American political landscape, such raw unfiltered passion is dangerous. This experiment lasting 200+ years is impressive in itself, the founding fathers believed it wouldn't last more than a century. But I think this experiment is coming to a close.You didn’t even read the post you’re replying to.
>>288966173Someone needs to add the woke memes to give the chuds an aneurysm.
>>288960029Fippy bippy, lolcowlizers on suicide watch
>>288966178If you make bad translations then act pompous about it of course many people will not come to your defense. Hopefully Japan invests a lot more into ai translation.
>>288966195It's just baffling, why pay someone to use tech that you could just use yourself? Again, cutting out the middleman. Is everything just so co-opted and incestuous at this point that they can't cut out the middleman? Does the Japanese government just need as many excuses as it can find to print print print currency to keep their zombie economy shambling? It's retarded.
>>288966230You didn’t even read the post you’re replying to either.What is with you guys? Are you slopping your posts too? I wouldn’t be surprised.
I'm NOTICING the push towards AI instead of just hiring better translators. Or perhaps organizing complaints against streaming companies to fix bad translations. Or anything that would actually help.Who pays THEM?
>>288966259>It's just baffling, why pay someone to use tech that you could just use yourself?Oh lord, tell me about it. Have you seen those slop Patreons?
>>288966259>>288966293Normalfags will gladly pay for ai tls, you live in a bubble and you don't matterm
>>288966307>professional prompter unironically thinks he has job security
>>288966330Normalfags pay me for sloppa and I gladly oblige. They don't care about your trannylations, they just want content and it doesn't matter how they get it. Some people pay me to slop up doujins too because my computer has enough vram when they don't.
>>288966307>Normalfags will gladly pay for ai tlsYeah, and fuck them. You know what else normalfags will pay for? Crunchyroll and dubs and the exact fucking woke tranny commie localizations you won’t stop bitching about. Where the fuck do you think you are?>you live in a bubble and you don't mattermHilarious, on multiple levels.
>>288966394Correct they will pay for woke tranny localizations when that is the main way translation is done, they don't care. Ai is just an upgrade. It's easy money and the normalfags stay happy. Instead of woke tranny localizations now the future is corpo ai translations outsourced to Indiana that don't understand English, be grateful because that in itself is a BIG upgrade over the current landscape m
>>288966358>b-but i make money nowAll manga will be auto-slopped by the publisher in 3-5 years, your days are numbered.
>>288966358>>288966425>cheering for literal dogshit made by techbro kikes
Hey /v/!
And that's a good thing. Kill all localizers.
>And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?>Matthew 12:26The modern world is ran by Satan.The push for AI. The embrace of new gender ideology. The pedophile cults of the Epstein/Trump class.It's all designed to corrode the human soul
>>288966440b-b-b-ut its pwn0rz teh l1bz in america
>>288966489>>288966506AI will evolve humanity and Luddites will be left behind. You fear what you don't understand.
>>288966455videogames?
>>288966518In a few decades modern infrastructure will collapse including your precious data centers
>>288966489Blaming the actions of greedy and corrupt humans in positions of power on the supernatural is delusional. It may be out of your control either way but the explanation is not so fantastical and you don't have to blow it out of proportions in your mind to cope with reality.
>>288966269What do you mean by organizing complaints? I mean when all of this originally started years ago the entire internet started complaining collectively. The only thing that has changed now is that defense of bad translations is more prevalent and all the people that were collectively complaining went silent after years of nothing happening and companies completely isolating themselves from the voices of their customers. What can even be done?
This is what dekinais deserve
>>288959964>hyper lefty PC slop, but by lefty PC slop AIoh wow nothing changes, except now someone pays millions to some slop company instead of some slop retard
As someone who knows approximately 3.5 languages and also watches/reads translations from chinkanese and worst korean, I can tell you that translations into English from non-Japanese languages and translation from Japanese into non-English languages are often pretty mediocre as well, but only A*glos are delusional enough to blame some kind of grand conspiracy by the dark tranny deepstate illuminati to bring about the downfall of Japanese media instead of the simple reality that most licensors are cheap as hell and most consumers don't give a shit.
>>288966579I mean taking material action and obstructing their income flow as a group until they give in to your demands
>>288966644t. leftist tranny posting from israel
>>288966425>Instead of woke tranny localizations now the future is corpo ai translations outsourced to Indiana that don't understand English, be grateful because that in itself is a BIG upgrade over the current landscape mYou demonstrate the exact reason why MTL is garbage in the same moment that you praise it. There’s not a single fucking self-aware bone in your body.
>>288966672Isreal is pro-rightoid now, anon. Keep up.
>>288966672isrel is literally a hard right fascist dictatorship doing in the middle east what hitler tried to do in europe
>>288966644I unironically believe that if they just kept honorifics and terms like senpai intact and refrained from making internet meme references randomly 99% of complaints would stop overnight. The translations still wouldn't be good, but they wouldn't feel designed to piss people off either, and that is why you have these grand conspiracy people.
>>288966676Come back when you've learned to identify sarcasm, Cletus
>>288966661I already only purchase manga/anime/VNs and any other merchandise through a proxy service from Japan, how am I supposed to obstruct their income flow any further than that?
>>288966644mediocre and intentionally wrong are completely different things. no one thinks that manhua translations or whatever aren't done by retarded esls.
>>288966749hippocrite
>>288966644It doesn't matter anymore, ai translation is already replacing them as we speak and Japan is going full steam ahead.
Here's your AI translationhttps://files.catbox.moe/ozyfr5.pdf
>>288966773More like BASED, cope and suck ai's dick because techbros own localized now.
>>288966749Why does this post smell like curry?
>>288959964holy shit that's a lot of money. i thought this shit was supposed to make things cheaper. the jews are always going to profit no matter what, aren't they?
Notice how rightoids and third worlders are the only ones that support this, coincidence?
>>288966793that's rough lol
>>288966822And the Japanese gov, seems you forgot that one xisster
>>288966822Low IQ does that to people.>>288966857Do you also improve of the nigerians they import?
>>288966793You can tone down romanization if its excessive you know. The most important thing is obviously that you make the master source language the Japanese and utilize only the English for context. You can also set up certain romanizations to remain static (so it will always do Okaa-sama instead of o-kaasama for example)
>>288966807It's just the usual scam of pretending to do useful business and passing uncashed checks of money you don't have in a circlejerk to inflate the "market cap" to con the government into giving you big expensive contracts to do nothing.
>>288966863Nigerians are based so yes, ai is the future.
>>288966863approve*
>>288965656Who's "they"?
>>288966731Dammit.
>>288966880Spoken like a true subhuman techbro
>>288966555haha ok whatever you say. Trump and Epstein literally raped 11 year old girls to death in Satan’s name but noooooooo nothing’s going on here stop noticing
>>288966793Is the "source text" transcribed by AI? Looks kind of like a sloppy overlapping rip of closed captions, but I'm not used to seeing much punctuation.
>>288966917It's okay because he's leading us into a glorious AI future.
>>288966917>>288966933>WAAAAAH AI IS BAD BECAUSE MY WOKE MASTERS TOLD ME SOlol, lmao
>>288966917>in Satan’s nameYour honor I wasn't of sound mind! The devil made me do it! I was caught up in a supernatural war!
>>288966720Even in those cases, EOP weebs are the only ones asinine enough to somehow draw a direct line between bad translations and leftist/gender ideology. Gookslurpers have had their debates about how translations don't properly convey all the nuance of Korean honorifics and levels of politeness either, but nobody is calling for the person who dared to translated "oppa" as "babe" or some shit to dilate their gaping ax wound. This is also just my personal opinion but I also think that if more americlaps bothered to learn at least one foreign language they'd quickly pick up on how poorly unrelated languages actually map onto each other both in terms of meaning and structure and also in terms of how the users of those languages think and speak, how much has to get thrown out and reworded for even basic conversations in order to make a translation from one language to another not sound like a sci fi space alien being written to purposely speak the language wrong, and how there is really no substitute for actually learning the language even with the most masterful translator in the world.
>>288966983The complaints will end when japan completes their ai merger.
>>288966983the insult is trannylator/troonlator because it slips off the tongue easily and is basically baked into the word dude...if the word for translation was fanlation it would have just been faglation or something.
>>288959964I'm glad all the retards seethe at AI. it eliminates all the bs jobs they were hoping to coast on and use to fuck with people. and one day once the tech matures it will autohide their bitching as well
>>288961406>muh hecking conservativesWhy do you spastics always resort to dead premises, cancel culture is obviously not done by """rightoids""" in this day and age, it's propagated by pearl clutching idpol """leftists""" (pretending idpol and leftism is compatible l0l) and it's not hard to just admit that, because """rightoids""" just want free speech without retarded moralfag screeching at every corner
>>288967017>braindead rightoid lets leopards eat his face to "own the libs"
>>288966954How is the weather in Tel Aviv?
>>288967039Just like how rightoids hate minorities and trans folk while Pearl clutching and supporting ai slop?
>>288967017>it eliminates all the bs jobsIncluding your own.
>>288967050How does the taste of defeat feel? AI CHADS won BIGLY.
>>288967064You don't even know how to use the loo.
>>288967060>lolcowlizer seething about being replaced Cope
>>288967086I'm not a translator or anything similar, cow dung eating troon.
>>288967039>cancel culture is obviously not done by """rightoids""" in this day and age,I forgot, rightoids are the most tolerant folks ever and would never use methods that are even similar to canceling someone.
>>288960029BasedTranny jannies destroyed
>>288967017>yfw no 4chan AI filter extension yet
>>288967135>backpedal
>>288967135>Leftoids can't complain, they made their bed and don't like it when their own methods get used against them, simple as.So you're saying it's someone else's fault that you became the thing you hate?Sounds weak.
>>288967155>>288967159>gets raped and gaped by AI GODS>no argument
>>288967178>immediately abandons his own argument after the slightest pushback>thinks he scored a point
>>288967178>no argumentBut you just said that you use leftist methods.
>>288967039rightwankers own all the internet platforms. they decide who gets banned and deleted. and more often than not its people who publically critizice said owners and the right wing politics they financially endorse
>>288967204>le based musk owns xitter now>rightoids still whine about getting censored and canceled onlineYou really wonder why they make no sense.
>>288967053Every time I take a break I forget about leftypol baiters, I still don't get the point of wasting your time like this tho. Anyway, something something retard something pretending to be outraged something, here's your (YOU)
>>288967044>>288967060I retired in my early thirties, stay poor
>>288967221>admits that his entire ideology is built on lies and intellectual dishonesty to goad the populace
>>288967221>Lol, LMAO we simply learned from the best. The left.So you became like the left? The part of the left you hated the most, their unfair tactics?
>>288967221>unironically gloating that he has nothing and all he can do is project
>>288967222>(YOU)Your tourist nature is showing, anon.
>>288967226Well done, Anonstein.
>>288967242>>288967237Their unfair tactics are actually incredibly good at convincing people at a grass roots level and organizing, the left is smart. It would be a lie to say the left is stupid, they left is very smart. The right simply adapted.
>>288967259>The right simply adapted.Thanks for admitting that you use leftist tactics.But you're using them not enough.Imagine if the right were translators and inserted rightwing memes into subs.
>>288967259>admitting to being a intellectually dishonest dirtbag
>>288967282>>288967284Of course. The tactics the left used were really just a hard lesson the right had to learn and understand. You cannot win a game when your opponent will simply break the rules. Now the right is developing their own flavor of the same filthy sophistry. To mobilize the population and flip potential swing votes it is a given.
>>288967237>>288967242It’s a time-honored rightoid tradition to falsely accuse “the left” of doing something bad, doing that bad thing themselves, and then calling “t h e l e f t” hypocrites when they complain about it without the slightest hint of self-awareness. You’re not going to be able to shame these guys. They’re too weak for that.
>>288967320Pathetic
so which animu are you guy big excited for this season? I think these are going to be the best.
>>288967353>nazi loliFuck off /pol/ cuck
>>288967353Mushoku and Mongol.
>>288967367good taste>>288967365...I think someone needs a mirror
>>288960284Make manga available in my local store for under $5 and I'll fucking buy it cunt. Until then I'll pirate, get fucked.
>>288967365Duck is leftist.
>itt /leftypol/ vs /pol/How is this thread still up, do jannies approve of ai/political slop? Range ban everyone itt please.
>>288967420>do jannies approve of ai/political slop?It's what the effective owner of 4chan, RapeApe, does on xitter all day.
>>288967382>>288967417Duck the /pol/ cuck literally tweeted about how he's "a conservative because the times changed" aka a closeted rightoid. His story is masturbatory and not the parody some people told me it supposedly was. The film even shits on leftism like it's some "good normal" thing to do. It reads like red scare slop.
>>288967453if you are typing like this you seriously need help dude. Have you tried enjoying anime instead of finding all this weird shit in it that nobody else is seeing?
>>288967466Have you tried not being a low iq rightoid that has zero media literacy?
>>288967453The MC xerself (aka duck aka Tanya) is pretty much trans (mixed gender/sex identity). Xe's atheist, which is not trad and based, but cringe and leftist. Xe's also portrayed as evil, even though xer side fights the commies.
>>288967466>just turn your brain off
>>288967476I didn't know that wanting to be a cute little anime girl made me a rightoid but ok
>>288967484Nice try buy associating that redscare slop with leftism isn't gonna work false flag-kun. The second that loli said "it's cool to kill commies" I knew I was in for some hot garbage.
>>288967254thanks kind anon, best of luck to you on your investments
>>288967508I hope the files will never get released uncensored. Would be a shame for you.
>>288967503>it's cool to kill commies"Of course xe says that, out of being evil. The English official title is literally Saga of Tanya the Evil. You know what that word with E means?
>>288967488Its not that you have to turn your brain off, but the portrayal of an idea doesn't mean your being attacked or something, i enjoy anime that come up with things or ideas that I think would be totally stupid in real life all the time...
Almost bump limit, shitbros!
>>288967525Bro the title in Japanese is just "Little Girl War Chronicles" though...
>>288967525>every rightoid on xitter champions the show, a sea of rightoids with Tanya pics and reaction images all the while the author never shows genuine support for the left and portrays himself as some poor misunderstood centrist (while shitting on the ussr)glowing too bright
Language translation seems like one of the few things AI should actually be good for. Languages is much more mathematical than art. There are objective correct and incorrect states to language and languages translation, so compared to things like art it should actually be able to provide consistent and useful results once refined enough.
This is probably the worst thread /a/ has had in maybe 3 months. Impressive.
>>288967531Life imitates art.
>>288967556They're just retarded because they hype a trans character.
Wow
>>288967567This is in the top three stupidest posts in this thread, and that's one hell of an achievement.
>>288967575You're not very often on /a/, are you?
>>288967575I did everything I could to improve the thread onii-chan~
>>288967579>he doesn't know about the trans rightoidsOh you poor poor child, unfortunately being trans doesn't automatically qualify you as a leftist (even though anyone with a brain would disavow the right)
>>288962456China is absolutely fascist as fuck. Have you not seen what happened to Hong Kong and Xinjiang? Now, I don't care that they're oppressing Muslims, but Hong Kong was actually a pretty decent place before Big C rolled in and fucked it up.This is why China needs to have, like, millions of guys slaughtered during the invasion of Taiwan. Only a second Century of Humiliation will bring them to heel.
>>288967602
>>288967609We have a resident tankie, prease understando
>>288967609I wonder why the burgers are making it so easy for China.
>>288962456The difference is that the US pushes back against their government's crimes. China cheers them on.
>>288967625Kyaaaa~~~~~~~~~~~~!!!!! Onii-chan gave me headpats T.T I'm so happy I love you Onii-chan!
>>288967633Mutts can't agree on anything so both sides would rather kill the other one then come to some sorta middle ground. China just kills anyone that dissents.
>>288963010Can I ask a stupid question? Would the AI translations be better or worse than the 'localized' translations we're getting? I mean AI doesn't seem especially bad at translating shit and it's getting better. I do enjoy the thought of woke localizers being driven out of their jobs, but that's secondary to actually have good translations.
>>288967567You are so unbelievably wrong it's impressive.
>>288967567Based and AI CHAD pilled. Japan agrees.
>>288967567I mean, this shit was actually developed for translation.>>288967662Go eat your cow dung burger, Rasheed.
>>288967651How exactly do you come to a "middle ground" on trans rights
>>288964018But isn't that kind of the point? Why the fuck should anyone accept the latter translation? If the AI just translates it to "My chest hurts", and it means we can avoid that dogshit, isn't that a win for normal people?Why would I want those responsible for the bullshit to keep their jobs? Am I suppose to feel sorry for them?
>>288967652Better than the worst, worse than the better.
>>288964290Yes, those 'people' shouldn't have jobs. Why the fuck would I want those shitters to be gainfully employed paratizing on something I enjoy? Fuck 'em, I hope they die penniless.
>>288967677Seperate but equal bathrooms. Maybe make them wear a rainbow on their sleeves in public.
>>288967680>Why would I want those responsible for the bullshit to keep their jobs? Am I suppose to feel sorry for them?Spoken like a truly heartless piece of shit, the right loves people like you.
>>288967633everyone in gov is a sellout in one way or another and being a traitor is never punished properly, i.e. deleting 3 generations like the norks do
>>288967696>literal fucking segregation Kill yourself
>>288961406So you're admitting the conservatives were moral and did nothing wrong and were not evil at all, which is why you're doing it now? Wow anon. Didn't take you for one to side with Hitler. :^)
>>288967680>>288967701White collar jobs are an outdated concept once AI hits hard.
>>288967712I know irony is dead, anon, but come on.
>>288967677there is no such thing as trans rights
>>288961781You abort babies for fun and attentionIceland aborts babies to practice eugenicsYou are not the same
>>288967735Wow this is a really great anime & manga.
>>288967011You only have to look at all the /pol/posting in this thread to know that it's more than a simple homophonic portmanteau, discussions devolve into alternate reality clownshows because EO/p/ols are actually and unironically conditioned with "everything I don't like is trans" brainrot.
I'm a midwit
AIが大好き!これで私も日本人になれる!翻訳者なんてみんな失業しちゃう革命だ!本当にうれしい!
>>288967575>ctrl + f "rightoid">27 matches>it's mostly one/two schizos who bring out "trans rights" for some reason on a thread about AI>>288967596I always thought euroshit hours were the worst, but clearly burger hours bring out the biggest retards
>>288967757A struck dog yelps.
>>288967718>>288967735>hey so we translated your favorite media!>TRANNY, TROON, COMMIE, AI WILL REPLACE YOU>okay whatever fuck you >HAHAHA AI IS REPLACING YOU>It will replace you too>NO IT WONT LEFTISTTRANNY>gets replacedIt would do the right some good to not be genuine pieces of garbage but I guess they are incapable of that.
>>288967757>it's mostly one/two schizos who bring out "trans rights" for some reason on a thread about AIJust like the other side brings out "trannies" for some reason.
>>288967756hountou ni you became a true nihonjin my kyoudai
みんなこういう感じで投稿して、日本語ネイティブのふりをしよう。AI翻訳を使いたくない人たちは、絶対に俺たちの言ってることを理解できない。
>>288967765Chuds are incapable of empathy, the irony is that the incel epidemic wouldn't exist if they weren't so transphobic. Because surprise surprise trans people like nerdy stuff too, instead of being hateful pieces of shit maybe consider being kind?
What does this mean. Will /g/ finally stop seething at imaginary indians whenever you mention AI?
>>288967765>>288967792No one wants axewounds near them
>>288967792
>>288967792The incel epidemic is 100% caused by "yes all men". That attitude created the manosphere.
>>288967830Chuds can feel empathy for cucks?
>>288967792>the incel epidemic wouldn't exist if they weren't so transphobic.Um you gotta explain this. I can't quite follow.
>>288967859>made up things your cuckservative masters told you to believeConsider deradicalizing yourself
>>288967882Incels could date trans women if they weren't hateful pieces of shit.
>>288967867Deku is a trans icon, so no.
>>288967567Only someone who had never bothered to learn another language could say something this wrong.
>>288967911>axewound thinks xer is desirableMost of the human race would rather die alone then date a troon
>>288967911Aren't you indirectly admitting that "trans women" are the bottom of the barrel?
>>288967911Most of those incels aren't into male-on-male. You should practice empathy for 99% of humanity and stick to your own toilet
>>288967888Young men are being told from one side that they're the cause of all society's problems, and that even their presence makes women uncomfortable. The other side tells them that they are men, and men are smart, strong, and awesome, and people who aren't men are trying to take that away from them. As someone who almost got flushed down the right wing toilet, I speak from experience when I say one of those messages is far more compelling. The sooner we acknowledge this the sooner we stop feeding them to the grift machine.
>>288967922It's true though. LLMs are best at languages. Basically doing work on texts.Whether it's actually good is a different question.
>>288967911>uhh have you considered being gay instead?I thought it wasn't a choice?
>>288967911>everyone falling for this false-flag
anyways now that this thread is fucking dead. I do not subscribe to ANY of your agendas. I want to be cute little anime girl but I also don't want Japanese culture to be fucking nullified from anime just because the masses want to see a fucking stupid Mr. instead of a -san. Everything is backwards and none of you align with my ideas 100% I think that AI helps overall, but it needs some edits obviously where it gets it wrong or does things like over romanization or accidentally pulls a SOV word order when it really shouldn't be.Localization itself is bad in my eyes, it strips the culture of Japan from anime and I think that is awful. I want everyone to see it not just myself, so telling me to learn Japanese is also a terrible argument, though I am doing that regardless. I think that in a world with properly translated anime, manga, light novels, and visual novels everyone can attain happiness though. So I think it is a world we should all strive for together no matter our ideologies.
>>288967942The core problem is that modern society favors feminine behavior. You see this especially on social media, where chuds act like teenage girls. Just search for "social media feminization" (ignore the links about jobs). Or ask your favorite AI.
>>288967567Stupider words are rarely said. Truly the epitome of the AI ethos.You need to read an actual book. And no, LNs don't count and degrade your IQ too.
>>288967984>and degrade your IQ too.You should add: The thing that degrades your IQ the most is social media, including 4chan.
>>288967925K then die alone>>288967931No I'm saying trans women like the same things many incels like.>>288967935/pol/ is that way>>28896796190% of incels are self hating
>>288968011YWNBAW
>>288967765>techbro makes awesome tool that translates my favorite media>NOOO DIE DIE DIE?
>>288967974You have a reasonable mindset. The only problem is that some people will accept dogshit solely because the people they are aligning with politically is making it (hence why you have people unironically defending shit like "mansplaining") and the other side is defending AI blindly solely to get back at the other side.
>>288968011>trans women like the same things many incels like.>90% of incels are self hatingAren't you kinda degrading trans women by association?
>>288968029The only reason trans women feel that way is because a large portion society is still stuck in the 19th century when it comes to values to the point of it being dangerous. I've seen some incels transition as well and they are 100x more happy ever single time.
At least the right is back to sucking off techbros instead of calling them jews.>janny just warned me for hours old post
>>288968004Toss up between short-form content, but yeah. The propaganda machine is strong and grows stronger every day. I've lost faith that it will get better as people throw themselves into the flames if it means those they hate might also get burned. But hey, they can gen anime girls in nazi clothes to jerk off to, so I guess that's good enough for 'em.
>>288968055AI slop is anti human so of course the right loves it.
>>288968055I want the old right back.
>>288968052You're demeaning "incels", but at the same time you say that "trans women" have the same interests as them, or that they should date them.
>>288968011let's compare suicide rates
>>288967984>>288968004>>288968059Light novels don't degrade your IQ, I will take a million people reading narou slop over scrolling tiktok any day of the week. Many people are at such a low reading level even a light novel/basic YA seems like a impossible task. I think it's good to encourage reading. It doesn't need to be /lit/ classics.
>>288967974>I want everyone to see it not just myself, so telling me to learn Japanese is also a terrible argument,Ideally everyone who has spent years consuming Japanese media should learn Japanese. But in a world where everything foreign has been completely stripped away I doubt many people in the future will ever even be that interested. It's a shame.
>>288968004I wouldn't say this site is degrading my IQ in and of itself, but it certainly has caused me to delay things like the nihongo study in many cases.
>>288968075Most incels are very chuddy, stop being a chud and many of your social problems will go away.>>288968078>defends Epstein's childraping class while whining about "trannies"
Was this thread a worthwhile use of your time?
>>288968103>can't comprehend why an incel would suddenly become a chud
>>288968103Epstein's victims have a higher survival rate than troons do
>>288968084I'm aware that literacy is so low that almost anything is better than nothing, but that's the thing: Sometimes nothing is better than what is out there.Reading 80 pages of nonsense prose doesn't make you any better or intelligent (unless it is literal practice on how to read). You don't have to go off and read Ulysses but reading 99.99% of LNs is the equivalent of reading garbage. And I say that about content I like. Konosuba is a terrible read, but a fun show. God forbid you read some LN isekai garbage like TenseiMu.
>>288968103>Most incels are very chuddy, stop being a chud and many of your social problems will go away.That doesn't have anything to do with my statement.Explain why you're demeaning trans women by association, despite claiming that you defend them.>>288968114Obviously the often quoted 41% or whatever number is incorrect, or the problem would solve itself.
>>288968109Too many normalfags.
>>288968120I hope you're not talking about translated LNs.
>>288968109Compared to playing another hour of videogames? Probably, even if it was just typing practice.
>>288968128troons reproduce vampirically through abuse and propaganda. It's why you pearl clutch about being 'literally genocided' and 'having your existence taken away' any time you're banned from women's bathrooms
>>288960055I wasn't there >>288960118Truth, but AI can be modified when people complain, instead of doubling down and looking for more opportunities to mess up. Plus AI is quite good at plain text translation already.
>>288960132noone watches dub>>288960284torrrent oldfags.... I kneel
>>288968128How am I demeaning? I said incels tend to like the same things?>>288968160>propaganda is when you say people should have equal rights
>>288968142Yes? Even if in the original language, unless you are using it as practice on how to read (like learning a fucking language) they are still poorly written.>>288968109It staved off another drink for 15 minutes. So a loss overall and mods should've deleted half of this thing.
>>288967384$25 aud per volume is pretty ridiculous >>288967756don't encourage them
>>288968160>troons are vampiresI see, you're making up your own fiction to explain the reality you see.>youPlease do not project.
>>288968185>Yes?Retard opinion discarded. The "translations" some of these LNs receive don't deserve to get called translations.
>>288968120I simply do not agree. Literacy rates are so low that I would be pleased if most people read only light novels at this point. Also eventually they'd branch off to higher reading levels. Light novels are like pulp, fun to read but trashy.
All these gay political meme words are making my head hurt, let's talk about anime and manga instead!
>>288968214>he says while the Epstein class run the government
>>288968189Prove me wrong. Your logic of it being 'self-solving' is faulty.
>>288967353(watashi)>>288968216ok then name which ones your interested in for the upcoming season anon?
>>288968181>How am I demeaning? I said incels tend to like the same things?Exactly.Also you implied that "trans women" are so unpopular that they have to make do with incels.>>288968233Your explanations simply don't hold up. How is the propaganda supposed to be so good, that it turns people into them at higher rate they die off? Reminder that you claim that almost half of all trannies kill themselves.
Baking a new bread for part 3
>>288968212You're an excellent example of my point.>>288968215You sure can disagree. Only way I could refute would be to post text upon text from basic LNs, but I ain't doing that. 99.999% of LNs, translated or otherwise, are trash and consuming them often acts against the interest of the reader's growth. Pulp, like you said, and it cannot constitute the majority of your diet.
>>288968225In a non-clown world, this would be a ridiculous statement.However, the files still haven't been released in full...>>288968262Thank you based newfag trash poster.
>>288968262Holy fucking based, let the slop continue!
>>288968272Why haven't they?
>>288968257Trans women do not have to "make do" with incels, if anything it can be dangerous to even go out with an incel. However if an incel were to reform himself it's a possible avenue if he was looking for a partner with similar interests.
>>288961406The carve outs to discriminate against communists/faggots/niggers weren't de facto, they were de jure.This makes them entirely incomparable to cancel culture. Plus communists deserve to be killed they got off light.
>>288968311Why can the reformed incel not just go for real women?
When the AI workflow is initially created, it'll be a little shitty, then you improve the workflow over time and then it becomes better and it is just permanently better from then on.So it'll be a rough transition period but eventually everyone will be glad to be free from human mistakes.
>>288968322I believe most incels are often in the spectrum of the LGBT themselves yet reject it.
>>288968319>whines about "leftist" laws that get him punished for committing hate crimes
>>288968330>So it'll be a rough transition period but eventually everyone will be glad to be free from human mistakes.You should be in the marketing department of an AI company. Two more weeks until it's perfect!
>>288968322Trans women are real women btw
>>288968337It's not about anything I do it's about the image making a blatant false equivalency.You might as well call firing squads cancel culture.
>>288968336>>288968351>projecting troon thinks everyone else is a secret axewound trannyYou couldn't pay me to fuck a troon
>>288968360What if they paid you several billions?
>>288968262Baker! Please add this once we fall off.>AI BROS WON
>>288968354>You might as well call firing squads cancel culture.I agree. Rightoids prefer the former when dealing with political enemies.
>>288968363No I'd rather commit suicide then fuck a tranny
>>288968347but it's true, you must have your head in the sand to not believe that it's all constantly getting better, and a user created workflow can also constantly be improved too.for example one reason an AI might make a mistake is it doesn't have enough context to make the correct translation.so just provide it more context. obviously. even visuals too. it can have the entire context of the manga put into it.
>>288968262>>288968369And the OP pic should be an indian eating dung.
>>288968382They've tried to push "MTL assisted workflows" for half a decade now. All it really did was that they reduced the pay, which made better translators quit.
>>288968354Shooting people you don't like comes a few steps after canceling them, but as far as the argument is concerned, they're equivalent.
>>288968396Someone has to create the workflows and operate the AI. So tech-oriented people are coming for your jobs. Should've got the stick out of your ass about "techbros" and instead just become one of them, dummy.
>>288968411What? I'm in a tech job and I'll still get replaced.
>>288968382>just two more weeks until it's usable! this time for real!
>>288968411The people who are going to benefit from AI number in the double digits. Nobody posting here had any chance to be one. Except that one guy...
>>288968382You're talking to luddites, they simply can't adapt.
>>288968484High IQ poster.
>>288968484Hello sir, what time is it in Mumbai?
>>288959964Trannies commiting suicide in mass at this news, based Japan.>>288960029fpbp
>>288968609Kill yourself jeet