Can we all agree ghost in the shell 2026 is awful and the shills are annoying.
>anybody I disagree with is a shill>no fun allowedfuck off to /v/ or /pol/ or whatever your main board is
>>290634890What I want to know is why they're so obsessed with the new GITS. It's been a constant hate campaign for months, all by people who don't watch anime.
>>290634867>>290634890I disagree with both of you.
I disagree, I'm enjoying it quite a bit :)
>>290634927because the IP is famous enough to be noticed by people who stopped watching anime / playing vidya 10 years ago in favor of shitposting 24/7. Since GitS also happens to have several iterations and these people were raised on console war shitposts, they think the same can be implemented here.It kinda makes sense on paper, in a "USSR will collapse in an instant if I just take Moscow" kind of way where your intel sucks
I disagree, I haven't watched the 2026 OR the original. :)
>every nu-gits thread is the same "HAHA FUCK YOU OSHII">someone makes a thread doing the opposite >NOOOO YOU HATE FUN
>>290635043>>290634867just take the loss OPyou've been a pissbaby in every thread despite promising you'd drop the show 2 months ago
>>290634867No, the show is great.
>>290634928I disagree with your disagreement and agree with both of those anons.Didn't expect that, did ya? How bout them apples?
>>290635234I disagree
>>290634927it's because its on hetflix when vilolet evergarden came out they piled on that even tho its not woke, is an original and wasnt produced by netflix
>>290635322You sunuvah-How dare you. I disagree with your disagreement.
Big Ghost in the Shell fan (me) excited to watch it for the first time (I grew up on SAC)
>>290634927every new seasonal that actually has people watching gets this treatment, shitpost-chan is starved for attention
>>290635002>>290635415Makes sense, altho I only see GitS SAC_2045 and some movies on Netflix. GitS 2026 seems to be on Amazon Prime instead.
>>290634927Cuz it's not good and /a/ keeps screaming "newfag newfag newfag tourist tourist tourist" whenever someone criticizes it which the same shit that happens with every crappy fotm
>>290635415VEG sucks but the new GITS doesn't, so your reasoning sucksnot to mention GITS isn't NF exclusive anyway
>>290634867It's not as bad as that dogshit one from the 90s but the whole series is overrated.
>>290636052Give me some criticism of GitS 2026, then.Not the "old good new bad" line or trying to start some sort of war over it, give some actual criticisms. Because the problem isn't people criticizing GitS 2026. It's that nobody is doing so, they're just comparing it to the 1995 movie and then expecting everybody else to actually dig up some criticism to compare the two.
GitS isn't consistent at all, it's fair to like some production but not another
>>290635043Holy projection. Oshiifags and/or pretenders have been making bait threads like yours nonstop, to say nothing of shitting up the show threads.
>>290634867Yes
>>290634867Only series Im following in years, guess Im not this modern audience enough.
>consumerism is real violence against impoverished countriesTotal soccie claptrap.I dropped Motoko Kusanagi so fast it'd make your head spin.The dumbfuck misanthrope claptrap she spewed during the trial didn't help eitherWas stand alone complex this way? I watched it on adult swim as a wee tot so I barely remember.
>>290639576No the good one didn't have that in it.
>>290634867>NYOOOOO I CAN ONLY CUMSOOM PHILANTHROPY SLOP IF THE CHARACTERS ARE JADED NORMALFAGS STARING AT A WINDOW LOOKING AT THE CITY AT NIGHT ASSPULLING QUOTES FROM THE CHEAPEST "BEST PHILOSOPHY QUOTES OF ALL THE TIME" THEY CAN GET ON THEIR MIND>IS THAT A ROBOT WITH A HAPPY FACE!>AIEEEEEEEE! SAVE ME KOJIMA!
I never thought GITs out of all things would lead to annoying discussions but what can you do, if you want more SAC vibe, just watch Armitage III.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXKAsybyIRw
>>290639887See >>290637058
>>290639887>an oshiifaggot cries in pain when he attacks you
As a franchise it never really allured me to begin with.Not even with Scarlett Johanson..
>>290634867>Can we all agree ghost in the shell 1995 is awful and the shills are annoying.FTFY
>>290640897That would be because Scarlett Johanson is a 6.5/10 on a good day. On my bus ride back home last thursday I saw three girls who were hotter than her.It's absolutely baffling that ScarJo became like this modern-day Marilyn Munroe in pop culture, it's almost as if people got zapped with a neuralyzer beam that made them forget that the average B-lister actress in the 80s was an absolute goddess compared to ScarJo. Even all the way up until the mid-2000s it wasn't difficult to come across total smokeshows in Hollywood movies. But for some reason, there was this Mandela Effect style mass delusion in the 2010s that made everybody's standards go way down the toilet, to the point where a chick like Scarlett Johansson got suddenly catapulted to the highest rank of sexual iconicity as if no other actress ever existed.Like, let's not even reach too high up the shelf: Kate Beckinsale. Total hottie, right? Did her movies get erased from history when ScarJo flashed her cleavage in Avengers or something?
>>290641219>But for some reason, there was this Mandela Effect style mass delusion in the 2010s that made everybody's standards go way down the toiletI think they call that the MCU.
>>290639800This series has a crossover with Pretty Sammy on pc98. I have no idea why but I like them both so whatever.
>>290634867SAC is my favorite anime of all time, and I'm fucking loving this new GitS, anyone who has any criticisms is ontologically evil and stupid. Not even joking. The new show has the je ne sais quoi of both the movies and SAC, the atmosphere and the worldbuilding are immediately familiar and have that GitS feel that drew me in the first time I ever saw the show/movies. Crazy to think that we've been waiting so long for good GitS content, that content comes along, and people still find ways to pick it apart.
>>2906348672026 Batou is a lot of fun
>>290644883he was also smart enough to figure out Motoko's plan very fast
>>290634867They are funny. They went from "woohoo lesbian sex" to "what is this series about" as they finally watch more.
>>290634867It’s beautifully animated. All the parts that suck are directly from the manga. Which explains why it was never adapted.
>>290648428It was adapted and its great.
>>290639576>buying things from poor people is victimizing themShe says this shit while living a completely consumerist lifestyle. In her downtime all she does is date random men and have expensive cybersex with lesbian robots.The only way I can stomach that line is if the author intentionally wrote her as a blatant hypocrite. But she’s also his mouthpiece so I don’t think that’s the case. Watching this just exposes what a weird myopic person the author is. No wonder he’s impossible to contact.
>>290648557No I'm pretty sure she's supposed to be a hypocrite. It's not a total condemnation it's just her starting to realize there's more to life than whatever she's been doing, but without being willing to confront her past.In MMI, she gets directly called out on her hedonistic lifestyle and goes "yeah whatever I guess it's childhood trauma or something, who cares"
>>290634927People that don't like anime love Oshii's GITS in particular because they think it is totally different from 'lame moeslop'. GITS 26 is a betrayal to them because it is so tonally and stylistically different from Oshii's film and isn't ashamed to be an anime. Its a good film, but that crowd of people are as obnoxiously loud as they are stupid and ignorant.
>>290648620that might have been true circa 2012, but right now nobody who shits on 2026 does it out of love for 1995.They do it because they're sharteens and think shitposting is a lifestyle
>>290634927It's the current "old good new bad" 4chan meta.
>>290648428That's why it's a cash grab, they are scraping the bottom of the barrel with this.
>>290648665GITS 95 is still perennially on every list of 'patrician anime series'.
>>290648617It's supposed to be bad writing.
>>290636120NTAI like the style, colours and energyoverall I like the animebut my main gripe is I'm realising you can't just adapt only the pictures of this mangabecause of the footnotesthe footnotes in the manga aren't just interesting tidbits of information, they provide crucial contextthey're as important as the visualsthey needed to be included, a bit like adapting a book>but they sometimes display the footnotes for 1.62 secondsyeah, nocome the fuck onalthough Saru also skips important bits of dialoguelike Ishikawa being second in command, for example
>>290648889The studio is known as trash for a reason.
>>290648737yes, but the shitposting isn't coming from those people>>290648756she's supposed to be flawed as a person
>>290648889IS IT important to know Ishikawa's rank?IS IT?>yeah, noOkay then what's your preferred runtime for a footnote to appear on screen?Keep in mind Saru went out of their way to provide extra context through original content at several points, and all of it was helpful.
>>290648979I didn't know the author is a woman, but I agree with calling her flawed, retarded even.
>>290649030>IS IT important to know Ishikawa's rank? >IS IT? yesI thought it was Batou until I read the manga>Okay then what's your preferred runtime for a footnote to appear on screen? not display it at all and adapt it instead, obviously>Saru went out of their way to provide extra context through original content at several pointswhenI don't think 2501 dunking on scientists at Catan was a tremendous improvement to the narrativethe explanation of the negotiation between the foreign ministers was nice, I supposealthough I immediately forgot who is who because of the trippy nameswho came up with "Ghorantl", Hideo Kojima?
>>290635002This is really all there is to it.
>>290634867Yeah it sucks. I really wanted to like it too
>>290649251>I thought it was Batou until I read the mangaIs it important for this misconception to be dispelled?>whenDuring the moments you're mentioning, but also during the ghost-diving, where the imagery used (the tree, or Aramaki's ghost being visible) foreshadows the Net as well as Motoko's psychic powers without requiring a namedrop of the Channeling Agency. As for the rest, you're admitting yourself that it's improvement, you're just pretending I claimed it was a "tremendous" one, so that you can save face despite openly agreeing with me.There are points of criticism to make about 2026, but they just aren't what you said.
>>290634867GITS 2026 is a confused mess.just look at the automobile animation. they didn't use CGI, but also spent no budget on them.they don't know what the fuck they wanted to do.If it's "faithful to the source material" why make up two whole episode's worth of plot? While still eliding over other story elements.
>>290649345Retard.
>>290649427I accept your concession.
>>290649422Faithfulness isn't just a matter of form it's also a question of intent.The plot in those episodes is very consistent with the source material and even clarifies it. For instance, Shirow only included subliminal references to nanomachines being used to terraform the world (in advertisement panels) but Saru made it into an explicit plot point which makes the events of GitS obviously relevant to future history.So it's actually a big improvement over the manga in that area, while correctly respecting Shirow's authorial intent.
>>290649519Cope
>>290649539I accept your concession.
>>290649581This bot appears to be broken.
>>290649345>so that you can save face despite openly agreeing with mecan we not do that dance?at the very least you can admit that I put effort into my post, so I will appreciate you not turning it into a pointless fight in returnI don't need to save face, as you can see I'm already Anonymous
>>290641219Jewish nepotism is real.
>>290634867No, it's been great so far
>>290634867Better than all the gits from the last 10 years
>>290634867No
>>290650231I'm sure you did and that's good, that's why I called you dishonest instead of calling you dumb. Surely the former is less of an insult than the latter.Also we both know posting on 4chan is a matter of ego.>>290650249NOT AN EXCUSE, plenty of hollywood jewesses are much prettier than scarjomy go-to is Jennifer Connelly.
>>290650363>posting on 4chan is a matter of egois it?
>>290650392Let's put it this way: 4chan doesn't produce OC anymore, it doesn't impact the outside world anymore, it doesn't produce actionable wisdom, and it only interface with other communities in a parasitic way. So basically, if you aren't posting on 4chan for the sake of making yoursel feel smart for being able to convince random people of things that don't actually matter, then you must be mistaken about what 4chan is and does.
>>290634867>Can we all agree ghost in the shell 2026 is awfuldunno, didn't watch yet, though I have some reservations based on what I see posted here>and the shills are annoyingtrufax, Shirow seems to be autist magnet ever since he stopped being a household name
>>290643886OMG
>>290648557When did you get the idea that Motoko had a lot of empathy for others. She's a social darwinist. She's jut aware of who and what she is. Who she hates, are social critics that complain about problems while also contributing to them. Motoko doesn't give a shit about starving kids in Africa, but if you do and you still live a consumerist lifestyle, you're the worst type of person in her mind.
>>290648889Commie subs include them properly TL'd and they're fine to read as you go.
>>290639576>a person that murders people for a living and currently is assimilating a spyware AI has misanthropic thoughtsNo shit? Did you think she was a hero? >>290641219ScarJo has a beautiful voice, mostly.
>>290650520I post on 4chan because it is one of the last places without karma and without identitiesmeaning what matters is the merit of the opinion aloneand I do get to read interesting opinions fairly often as a resulttrying to convince others and others trying to convince you is not an ego trip, it's how a conversation is supposed to workI do get tired of anons constantly trying to psychoanalyse me insteadI also find it funny how it is impossible to hold grudgesit probably happened many times that I had an angry exchange with an anon, only to later unknowingly have a pleasant conversation with him in the very same thread
>>290634867>We4chan isnt your personal army, shartranny
>>290634867It was good. Not incredible math, not as introspective, spectacular or deep as the first anime but if it doesn't suffer comparison it's still a great anime.Ghost is alive and well
>>290634867No, it's worse than you said.
>>290650775You fell for the marketing pitch. Grudges do in fact occur, it's just that, since you can't tell for sure if you're talking to the same guy as last time, you end up lumping random people together (even unconsciously) and your lingering resentment spreads across many unrelated convos.Hence the acerbic tone of this website in general, and why so meny people end up growing a persecution complex (schizos, in proper 4chan speak); everyone carries a hundred chips on their shoulder from conversations that ended up like this>>290649427>>290649454and everyone hopes to recoup their investment by winning the next argument fair and square. aka, gambler's fallacy, except you spend free time and you win ego.Because opinion has no merit on its own.
>>290649519lel. has anyone coped any harder than this?
>>290650763>ScarJo has a beautiful voice, mostly.6.5/10 like the rest of her
>>290650763Murdering those who deserve it shouldn't amke one a misanthrope
>>290651669
>>290644464did you like Arise?
>>290651669That's a non-sequitur if I ever heard one.She's a misanthrope.She also wants to eliminate bad guys. But the thing you must understand here and that will (hopefully) be made clear in the last episode, is that Motoko primarily sees it as a job someone has to do, or else everything goes to shit. She also has moral standards, but she doesn't really care about enforcing them unless she's been directly involved.Hence the trashman metaphor that was introduced in Junk Jungle and followed up on during the trial. There are people who fuck everything up, and if you let them get away with it, nothing works. Simple as. Evil is understood as pollution, noise within the system. It can't be entirely eliminated, but it must be kept at bay.Hence why Motoko feels comfortable with her own excesses. On a global scale, it balances out.Aramaki is mostly concerned with justice. She's mostly concerned with keeping things functional.(another reason why the depollution nanomachine subplot is thematically relevant. Poseidon aren't heroes, they're just what the planet needs right now)
>>290651966It's reddit spaced so I didn't read it. Hows here you delete this, then post it again but properly. Then I'll read.Might even concede a point or point, who knows~
>>290652037But you did read it.
