This is the most obvious "in hindsight, the ending was great" ending. See you guys in a couple of years.
Make your bets.
I still hate it.
>>291128575If it's from shiori tani then it well be Luca and Leo focused.
>>291128530>the ending was great
>>291128575Koide flipping the bird at the camera.
>>291128575Announcement of a BD-only exclusive OVA "Adolescence of Lara", where she returns to Mari after her travels, and they kiss.
>>291128530I hope you guys buy the blu-ray!
>>291128575If it's just the op visuals expanded with Luca tripping behind them then I'll be pretty disappointed.
>>291128706>Buy it>Watch it>Lara only kisses Mari for a second on the cheek and goes back to dating Luca
>>291128575Hoping for confirmation of Luca and Lara so those poor yurifags can just stop coping and drop the show.
>>291128530>Survey>The two were dating during the 6 months>The two only dated in Episode 9See you in a few days when the staff confirms what Luca meant at the bridge and sets the fanbase on fire again.
>>291128743the audacity
>>291128888What fanbase lolYurifags stopped caring besides a few copersLucafags don't actually like the show and just use him to own their internet enemies
>>291128888it's ambiguous and on the first parse nips tends to read it as the dick option
>>291128530Nobody will be talking about this shit even early next year
>>291128928The people still on cope, some "native Japanese speaker" (a.k.a. a Westerner on Western twitter) tried to damage control by saying Luca's ambiguous line was a mistranslation by Crunchy's subtitle team. If the staff actually confirms Luca and Lara did try to date for a bit during the 6 months any remaining goodwill from the copers/yurifags claiming that the subtext was explicit enough between LaraMari will disappear.
>>291128530Ending can't be great because everything that could make it great was left totally unsaid and only barely implied over the course of 5 minutes. On top of that, CuckGPT over at Crunchyroll ruined the Luca scene and made it so ESLs and dubfags got a more accurate experience.https://files.catbox.moe/h1z4qg.mp4
>>291128530Not really. You fags need to stop pretending to like dogshit just to be contrarian against your boogieman.
>>291128971I am pretty sure it's like one fag. The yurifags in yuri thread so far don't look like they even care about the series kek.And I can't even tell if the fag is actually coping or falseflagging
>>291129005Oh the twitterfags (both JP and overseas) are still coping hard. The nips that really want to like the ending despite it being bad are lightly throwing softball critiques ("I wish it was one more episode long...", "Well, a happy ending can't be expected with how many things were at stake...") before even deleting those tweets because they don't want to promote negativity towards the show. Even the poll here >>291128888 was deleted. Overseas twitterfags are still coping hard in other ways (insisting LucaMari didn't date during the 6 months and making up interpretations of Lara breaking out of her role as a storybook character or some shit).
>>291128978>show up outta the blueThis is a reference to how she's a mermaid. Truly 10/10 writing by Kojimbles.
>>291129053Between all the time you spend on twitter and how long you've been shitposting about this stuff on /a/, how many hours would you say you've devoted to this gaslighting?
>>291128978This makes far more sense. It's clear that he's talking about the confession scene from before, saying that it was followed by her breaking up with him, which he sees as impulsive. There's no timeline stated, so that's up to your interpretation. Personally, I just don't see them dating for long, Luca and Lara never jived together, so they probably stopped once he finished the portrait.
For a show about tourism with plot that includes romance, why wasn't this place shown?
>>291128575Something like this.
>>291129296human lara is the biggest dyke I've ever seen in those 80's pants and shoes.
>>291129296I like the idea that Mari just carries her boxing gloves around everywhere. In case another mermaid decides to fall out of the sky, I suppose.
>>291128928>Yurifags stopped caring besides a few copers>Lucafags don't actually like the show and just use him to own their internet enemiesHave you considered theres people who watched the show to enjoy it, not for a stupid obligatory check mark.Christ you guys are pathetic, watch shows cause they interest you, not because it ticks some generic "it has Yuri in it" marker or "it has a guy cuck the yuri lead" marker. Did none of you care about the story, cast, visuals, or work that went into this show? Did you really only watch this show on the vauge pathetic assertion it would have Yuri in it? If so, you really could've spent the last 78 days of your life in a different more fulfilling manner watching other garbage.
>>291128530>This is the most obvious "in hindsight, the ending was great" ending.Well, it was alright. But yeah, it wasn't bad, most people just don't get it.
>>291129333I don't see how anyone who cared about the story and cast could be satisfied with the ending (and I don't see many people who are).
>>291128635nice edit kek
>>291129333>Have you considered theres people who watched the show to enjoy ityes and the people who enjoyed it were all disappointed by the ending
Sailors knew sirens would singFrom rocks off the cliffs by the seaThe monsters with waiting teethTheir skin shinesCrystalline
>>291129359>very obvious theme of progressing forward instead of standing still out of both fear and obligation>ending has lara move away to live the life shes wanted to live for years now instead of staying on a island haunted by the shitty relationship she messed up 130 years ago>lara clearly says she'll return for both Luca and Mari who are also advancing in their own lives>director also said the story wouldn't be a standard Yuri story>this is baffling for low iq viewers and somehow its the shows fault for doing something different then checking stupid markers.
>>291129344>most people just don't get it.EVERYONE gets it. It's tropey and hackneyed as hell. Its execution was also awful, which is an even worse offense.
>>291129366Pfffff lol
Well, well, well. Now that the show has ended and was exactly the non-yuri character drama anyone with a brain knew it was gonna be, when are you all going to apologize for making these threads an entire summer's worth of ungodly autistic meltdowns? What's that yurifags? You'll have to speak up.
>>291129459Who are you talking to?
Why are there Chinkshills in your previous thread? Their Yuri are as bad as current day Nip Yuri and that thread was the first time in months is saw an unironic Chink shilling. There are a bunch of good Chinese but those retards always use the biggest heap of trash to shill Chinese
>>291128575the producer walking up to the office garbage can pulling out wads of paper storybarding a better ending and saying it's shit and his was better.
>>291128530Kill yourself
>>291128978>everything that could make it great was left totally unsaid and only barely implied over the course of 5 minutesLike what? "Sorry Mari, I know you're going to be totally alone but I have to leave to be a strong and independent woman."
>>291128948Then let the threads fucking die already. I am tired of seeing this shit.
>>291129475Is this the pic? >>291128575
>>291129433It's fake outrage for the purpose of shitposting. No one who actually watches anime disliked the anime, just tourists who ironically engage with anime for clout online on twitter and shitposting on /a/.
Zombie Land Saga did a better job promoting tourism with monster girls, had likeable maleMC, better tranny character, better slut character, better overall themes and messages, and all but confirmed canon yuri between 2 well-developed characters whose arcs strengthen the strong themes of the show too. Sayonara Lara I hope there won't be any more threads about this liquid dogshit.
>>291128530Unironically agreed, its bittersweet parting note is just being screeched over by jilted faggots with an unhealthy need for cartoons to kiss exactly who and how they want them to
>>291129557>"I am literally a brand new human being and I finally am free to do whatever I want, so I'm going to make a life for myself on my own rather than burdening you into doing it for me, then and only then can we fuck"
>>291129573No, that one will come in about 2 hours.
>>291129573No that's just koide finally posting a thank you art again. He stopped after ep 6.
>>291129579I wonder how many "this is the last post I make" posts you'll make over the next few weeks of shitposting
The truth bomb is that the show was never good since the beginning>garbage premise>shitty first episode>muh retro animation(who cares, when writing is 100x more important than animation), also trying to be different is still a cliche>0 interesting characters>meh musicThere was nothing good about it.
>>291129366My favorite is still the one some anon posted, about comatose Mari.
Sayonara, yuri-bait
>>291129578>No one who actually watches anime disliked the animekillyourselfNOW
>>291129605>>muh retro animation(who cares, when writing is 100x more important than animation)This. I've watched so many 80s/90s/00s ovas with good animation that are just bland action pieces I forgot the next day. Writing is the thing that matters.
>>291129646is watatabe yuribait?
>>291129604Seethe more. It must be hard for your little brain to comprehend that there are outsiders who never gave this show a shot because they could tell a trainwreck is coming from the start and was just waiting for it to hit.And I'm not even the same anon as this guy but Larafags have been obnoxious morons saying everywhere even in other fandoms about how their anime is the second coming of Christ that will save animation and yuri when it can't even write engaging characters like the previous Kinema Citrus work Revue Starlight (the original anime only)>>291129605
>>291129675>No human being comes into the world doing things on their own, and the only way anyone gets anywhere is if they help each otherTrue but zoomers are too too codependent.
>>291129579Just because Yugiri is a pedophile chaser doesn't make YuLily a canon couple anon.
>>291129675I've said this in a previous thread too but when it comes to yuri relationships they always have to go different ways to become better people somehow instead of becoming better together. This works for some shows designed specifically around it thematically, but it doesn't fucking work in most of the Utena clones. It just shows that the creator ultimately doesn't believe two women can have a healthy and mutually beneficial romantic relationship like a man and woman could. And that isn't even to mention how very little yuri relationships actually explore the idea of compromising while becoming better together, which is a very real and important thing in real relationships.Typing all this just makes me realize how good ZLS handlded it as well as Futaba and Kaoruko's relationship from the anime t b h.
>>291129717Pretty sure it's not a trend exclusive to zoomers. It's a societal trend that started with gen-x or maybe even malenials.
>>291129730>in most of the Utena clonesName 3 good utena clone.
>>291129721Yuugiri saw Lily more as a daughter, especially when she died before she could marry the only man she ever loved in her life Kiichi.It's obvious who the pretty-much-canon yuri ship of ZLS is, if you're trying hard to avoid mentioning it I can only suspect you are THAT schizo.>>291129745You got me. None of them are good. Yuri Kuma was... Watchable I guess.
>>291129717Lara was already shown to have become independent enough to work, make her own money (she repaid the broken window), go out on her own, communicate on the phone etc. Her relationship with Mari was never a codependent one beyond the first few episodes where she was a literal fish out of water. What we saw between them was only positive human warmth and support. Lara leaving everything behind to be entirely on her own isn't earned in the slightest and feels like the ending to a show they didn't make. The only consistent thing was Mari being shat on as she explicitly mentioned feeling lonely without Lara and just had to take the hit, plus Gon-chan dying and her mom's cross being destroyed.
The real reason Lara left at the end is because, when looking for a place of her own, she quickly realized dreamy seaside towns are expensive as fuck to pay rent on a baker's salary, and set off for more affordable nippon living.
>>291129730>It just shows that the creator ultimately doesn't believe two women can have a healthy and mutually beneficial romantic relationship like a man and woman couldI hate it, but that's what I think is behind all of this. Girls liking girls isn't a genuine thing to the old fucks in society who are desperately trying to keep their views relevant, to them it's "just a phase" and the only thing that'll make a woman whole is a glorious nipponese man. Those men don't have to actually be decent people, though, let alone work on being attractive, don't you dare tell them that.
>>291129579>Zombie Land SagaI only know that show because a guy that used to post here all the time had it on his 3x3.
>>291129672You're the only loser who talks like that about fandoms and being a vindictive shit because people you don't like like something. Of course, as always, it's just imaginary people you've made up to justify why you spend all day every day shitposting on these insane crusades to force narratives about shows.
>>291129333Anyone who was watching for the actual story/characters would've been put off from the show way earlier due to the pacing issues and random flipflopping between not explaining shit and exposition dumping - Lara's summary of what happened to the mermaids at the end was one of the most egregious.
>>291129820Why do you have to transform everything into a talk about politics? And your hate for the older generations is weird when gen z and gen alpha are the most fucked up and worthless generations living right now. Like I think the ending is shit but I don't get all this weird talk. The modern world is worse than what we used to have.
>>291129794Anon I hate to break it to you but it is extremely forbidden for Saki to fuck her former bestie's daughter no matter how badly she wants it.
>>291129850>would've been put off from the show way earlierWrong. It fumbled in the final stretch, but up until like episode 10 it was still consistently great.
>>291129820>let alone work on being attractive, don't you dare tell them that.You literally can't change if you were born ugly thoughever. Also rich guys can bag how many girls they want and most women are whores nowadays.
>>291129856I'm talking specifically about the very real views that drive anti-lesbianism in Japan and what ultimately causes this executive meddling in shows to make sure that the yuri doesn't happen. Seems like you're feeling called out, though, so I'd figure out for yourself why that is.
>>291129820>>291129730A bunch of writers have that issue with even male x male romances too. Straight relationships are littered all over the narrative kissing and saying 'I love you' but as soon as it comes to the main pairing (either yaoi or yuri), everything suddenly gets 2deep4u and must not be stated with actual words or actions. Throw in a bit of pretentiousness and writers will unironically think they're special for doing this.
>>291128530No. Yumemita was the best anime of this season. Feel free to watch it to cleanse the fish taste from your mouth.
>>291129820This is why the yuri in ZLS and also the anime version of FutaKao worked, because the pairing actually explored the whole journey of>Mostly harmonious co-existence between 2 ideals just waiting to crash>Development happened causing the 2 sides to crash>Separation arcs that made both sides weaker the more it goes on>The solution to both times they separate is always to work together/take the other back to their side>The pair compromise in the end and continue to be together and became better people by the end of the arcsThe movie didn't ruin this entirely for FutaKao because they're literally pair that is explicitly stated to reunite afterwards, and that's why their arc was the only one that worked almost 100% in that ultimately unnecessary movie.
>>291129895>the very real views that drive anti-lesbianism in JapanYes and you are associating those with the older generation and the opposing views with the new "queer" generation while equating yuri with 3dpd. But that doesn't work because newer generations are just... fucked up. Think about it for a second.
>>291129883Never said anything about ugliness, being attractive to a woman is much more than being physically attractive. Either way, still doesn't mean you need to make it your life's mission to make sure fictional lesbians aren't a thing. Actual lesbians are a minority, so this is just a fantasy. The modern world's procreation problems have very little to do with the gays, it's much more about cost of living and social media poisoning thought.
>>291129916I'm not going to take your request seriously when you immediately jump to blanket hate toward the younger generations. Everyone has their problems, it's just that the older generations in Japan are very much about forcing women into being baby machines.
>>291129941>Either way, still doesn't mean you need to make it your life's mission to make sure fictional lesbians aren't a thing. You can always just watch yuri manga adaptations thoughbeit >The modern world's procreation problems have very little to do with the gays, it's much more about cost of living and social media poisoning thought.The world doesn't have just a procreation problem but a sex one as well though. How do you explain that?
>>291129965Nta but I am a zoomer myself and Imo the hatred is very much warranted.
>>291129857Saki was always meant to be a traditional straight girl with that kind of character arc. Only delusional and media illiterate (accurate use of this term btw) ever thought otherwise and got mad at the thing with White Ryu.The yuri ship of ZLS had the best dual arc in season 1 and the "best" in season 2 as well but mainly because season 2 doesn't really have character development arcs for anyone. In both seasons their arcs also tie closely into the themes and messages explored in that season while also showcasing excellent voice acting work from the respective characters, so it's no wonder why they are the 2 most popular characters in the show even more popular than femMC, and they're about as popular or slightly less than maleMC.
>>291129333Even if both Mari and Luca are genderless and whether it's yuri or straight does not matter, the ending is still atrocious. Lara's premise from the beginning is finding "true love" so she can get her light back and revive her family. Then we spent the entire story with her trying to find her "true love" in human world. They could've gone with "Lara's true love is humanity itself" but they didn't, they explicitly stated that Mari is her true love and she needed to stab her to regain her light. Cool, now why on earth did she leave Mari to find another light when she already got her light back??? Especially after the entire speech about the reason she doesn't want to disappear yet is because she wants to live in a world with Mari in it? It's completely out of nowhere and she didn't even explain why when Mari asked her. Let's not even talk about Mari, she's lonely, her mother died, she has no friend, the only companion she had was her talking fish, who died too, and now Lara left her as well. And her mother even had a speech about believing that Mari will have someone who will walk alongside her. The writer is trying to subvert a story about finding true love to a story about independence, which clearly does not work as it had no setup beforehand.
>he posted it again
>>291129965If we don't hate them, how would they improve? Hell if you want to talk about the accuracy, you wouldn't want a show with accurate zoomer characters that spend all day on their iphone or playing video games and are too afraid to even interact with a woman to begin with. >are very much about forcing women into being baby machines.By not making a yuri show? Lol. Most jap women literally do not watch anime so I doubt they care.
>>291129801At least she didn't become physically disabled like Suletta, though at least Tanuki got the girl at the end I guess.
>>291130025The main issue is that other subtext stories don't have true love/love as their central themes so it makes plenty of sense that any yuri romance doesn't get 100% confirmed by the end. But Sayonara Lara is literally about debunking true love being the pinnacle (apparently) and trying to do that while making the climax of the story some sort of love between Lara and Mari while not saying what that is (when it wasn't a problem for any of the straight couples like Rigmor and Rowan) only made the writers twist themselves into pretzels for no good reason. Talking in riddles for just the yuri pairing at the climax doesn't do favors for anyone.
>>291129824Reading this makes me feel depressed. 4chan ain't what it used to be anymore.
>>291129898I think many creators view yuri and yaoi relationships as "highbrow" elements to add into their works so they can pretend it's deeper than others by exploring "a very special relationship that is more than friends but less than lovers".
>>291130149That's what made it good, though. Suletta lost almost everything tied to her old life but people are there for her, Miorine in particular, but not just her, she has actual friends. Mari has... Luca? A guy who she doesn't even really seem to like, even in the most generous interpretation, she's extremely flaky with him. And no wonder, the most important person to her, Lara, left her to go become an independent wahmen who don't need no (wo)man. Not to mention that makes no sense after what Lara did to become human and what all of it meant to the both of them. Even without the yuri, looking at things with pure friendship in mind, the ending makes no fucking sense.
>>291130171Well I haven't watched every anime ever, most of the show I've watched are from the 00s >4chan ain't what it used to be anymore.Never been here in the old days but it does seem more magic from the archive
It's a good ending. Lara realized that Mari being her true love is what ended up killing Mari.So she abandons true love. She leaves Mari because that's the only way to protect Mari from herself.The ending is meant to feel cold and invoke the idea of a final farewell.
>>291130149Suletta is starting to walk again by the end, she'll be fine for the life she wants to lead and she literally rejected Gundams to the point of poofing them out of existence so she won't need to be fit for piloting anymore. Plus Miorine works in medical tech so her dedicating her efforts to healing Suletta is perfect.
>>291130213I was wary since the start because it sold itself as a subversion of a classic fairy tale mostly known for the romance story, which frankly sounds very shallow and uninteresting to me and rightfully resulted in months of threads of het vs yuri fighting, while clearly being made by people who want to create their own Utena clones. That can never be a good combination.
>>291130227That's some impressive mental gymnastics there. The thing that happened is already done, Lara is human and she's only hurting Mari more by abandoning her. Of course, I don't expect the bug men to look beyond their forced separation ending autism to see that, so I'll settle for calling them retarded bug men. The ending is not deep, it's contrived and crafted to separate Lara and Mari. That's it.
>>291130227>It's a good ending. Lara realized that Mari being her true love is what ended up killing Mari.But that issue was already fixed, the fish dagger is gone, she got her light back, she's no longer foaming, she already lived with Mari for SIX MONTHS and then she just randomly decided to leave because???
>>291130227This makes no sense. The dagger isn't the default state of the mermaid princess' light, it specifically only happened because Lara suffered from betrayal. There is nothing that suggests it has to happen again if her love becomes fulfilled instead. She's free to love Mari without negative consequences but... doesn't.
>>291130256>hile clearly being made by people who want to create their own Utena clones.The director has said multiple times thta he was inspired by Junichi Satou not Ikuhara. So call it a failed Princess tutu(my favorite anime btw) clone
>>291130171>>291130219Also would you recommend it to me? I like cute things.
>>291130263/pol/tard tourist
There is a show called ACCA-13The entire show there are rumors in the kingdom that someone is planning a coup d'etat because people don't have confidence in the next heir to the throne.The MC is sent by his organization ACCA to visit the 13 districts to confirm the rumors, and discovers the districts want to conspire with the MC and ACCA to execute a coup to abolish the monarchy.All the districts end up agreeing with the coup because>Monarchy is gay, also the next monarch is going to be super gay, so let's get rid of itACCA meticulously plans the coup and right when they are about to coup shit up they go>Sike, we were never going to coup in the first placeThe entire show that was about couping the government was about not couping at all.In fact, one guy who happened to not get filled in about the coup hears about it for the first time and goes>wtf, why the fuck would we coup, that's stupidWhy the fuck was everyone on about a coup for no reason? They didn't even solve the problem with the monarchy. So the show that was about espionage and politics and coups was not about coups at all, so what was it about?It was about bread, just eat bread.This has nothing to do with Sayonara Lara, fuck that show, eat bread.Also monarchy = based.
>>291130299>ad hominemNope, haven't even looked at /pol/ in years. I accept your concession, though.
>>291130278she needs to hop on the carousel ASAP
>>291130316Even there you're incapable of speaking without using /pol/ lingo because you're a brain rotted child raised by /pol/ since your own parents can't stand how much of a faggot you are
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>>291130332Now post the office one you made to complete the normalfag showing of your shitposting routine
>>291130331>more schizo ramblingIt's a shit ending. It's not deep. You lost.
>>291130286He literally worked as a director for Revue Starlight and its showrunner Furukawa is one of Ikuhara's protégés, he's under the Ikuhara lineage whether he admits it or not.
>>291130332
>>291130346Schizo is another buzzword that makes it obvious it's always just you spamming. You say it every time you get called out for spamming and samefagging. I wonder how many hundreds of posts you've made already and how many hundreds more you'll make now that you've added this to your shitposting rotation.
>>291130347I never watched that.
>>291130274>>291130278I was working under the assumption that Lara "killed" her old self and somehow switched her love from Mari to something else. Also the light that she found was different from the old light that used to power the mermaids. The new light also apparently has less mojo because everyone is still recovering and asleep.The fish dagger demands the soul of her true love. Somehow when she killed her "old self" the dagger was freed of its demand? I have no idea.
>>291130359Oh, it's you. I'm not your boyfriend you always argue with on here, sorry to disappoint.
>>291130379>I have no idea.Neither does the writer don't worry about it
Stop trying to make sense of the writing you guys are putting in more effort than the creator himself atp
Nothingburger
>>291128888This translation debate made me realize this media literatefags subtextfags are full retard holy shit these fags can't even understand this much context and coping he meant only once. It's so bad the English dub literally said you wanted to date me and broke up and didn't even dub the "nankai yatta" part lol maybe those fags were shocked
>>291130312Nigga the MC despite being groomed by the conspirators to become the new ruler wanted none of it, so he orchestrated for the coup to fizzle out but still give the future king enough of a scare that he won't ever think of trying to take power away from ACCA again. I haven't seen the show since it came out but I still remember it was so straightforward
>>291130414Well, now we can let go I suppose. At least until the manga comes out, and the whole thing starts over again.
>>291130414FUCK LUCALARA BELONGS ONLY TO MARI
>>291130379The dagger fulfilled the required condition of eating the soul of Lara's true love and turned back into light. Lara rejects that conclusion, lets herself get eaten, saves Mari and smashes the dagger. There's no threat anymore and it shouldn't happen again as long as she doesn't suffer a betrayal like the one she did from the prince.The notion that she forces herself to just stop loving Mari on command when she rejects the need for true love is ludicrous after the whole show was spent on Lara trying to force herself to fall in love with specific people only to fall in love with Mari without ever trying to.
>>291130414They released this artwork specifically to spite thai anon.
>>291128635sauce on that anime?looks cute and funny
>>291130478Cosmic Princess Kaguya i.e. a movie that seems almost clinically designed to tell the writers of Sayonara Lara to fuck off with their dumb shit.
>>291130462>Lara rejects that conclusion, lets herself get eaten, saves Mari and smashes the dagger.But how does she do that? Does she simply do it for free? Usually if you want to take something you have to give something back in return.I'm thinking that something else was given when Lara crawled into the fish. Specifically herself, the Lara that came in was different than the Lara that came out. She lost a part of herself.This is how I assume that she could "switch" her love.
>>291130414>that outfitEsl-kun...
>>291130510Now this is actual headcanon nonsense lol
>>291130414
Missed the last few threads, did we get any post-ep 12 staff or official pics besides >>291128978 and the one from today?
>>291128530You know what the ending reminds me of? It reminds me exactly of how G-Witch chickened out of confirming it’s main fujobait ship Laugue, right down to the last minute hetbait Luca/Petra character and uncharacteristic ending that feels like it came out of nowhere after building up to and confirming both Lara and Lauda’s feelings for Mari/Guel at the end of their arcs only to completely “nowayfag” them at the last minute by having them both outright abandon them in what could only be called the most bizarre, OOC moments in each’s show that felt like a complete retcon of both characters’ personality. It’s actually almost eerily uncanny how similiar both pairings endings feel…I want to reiterate, both Lara and Lauda seemingly drop Mari and Guel (in a timeskip yet too!) like a hot potato after just reiterating that they’re the most important person in each respective’s lives. Both also have the element of “I can’t rely on this other person forever” too.Well at least I can say that yurifags finally know how us fujos feel and what we had to put up with 3 years ago.
>>291130414Luca-bike-date-epiloguefag.....
>>291130580I wish I could show this post (and a dossier of hundreds of others you've made) to therapists and watch their faces
>>291130414It's obvious they cropped out Luca before posting.
>>291130414They're so confident in their cuck separation ending that they can't even commit to it, pathetic and shameless.
>>291130558Well can you explain to me how Lara saved Mari after she died then?
>>291130613this but unironically
>>291130565>nothingburger imageKek
>>291130621I already have at least half a dozen times and you just keep shitposting because you're a mentally ill freak
>>291130519Ok that's actually hilarious. Even on life support with its final breath it raised a middle finger to lucafags.
>>291130613Look at Lara, that's before she lost her soul and became grey and emotionless
>>291130580Lauda and Guel were adoptive brothers though so it'd never fucking work, you fujoschizo.
>>291130648bro she's ready to experience lots of new *things* after draining poor luca for 6 months.
>>291130519>>291130414>Mari literally steals Lara from Luca>They both laugh as they ride awaylolrumao
I like how you could feel that Tani hates Koide in their joint interview and Tani continues to try drawing scenes to fix the ending
>>291130665>Tani hates Koide in their joint interviewQRD?
>>291130510That's probably what the ending wanted to convey with Lara's legs still hurting, but in that case it's a flagrant betrayal of the show's theme expressed in the very previous episode (pic related). Lara just trades one law off for another and fails to live for what she truly wants.
>>291130593>Luca-bike-date-epiloguefag.....It's still could happen.
>>291130414>>291130519You can tell tani wanted to draw Luca so bad she had to reference a scene with him to compensate.
>>291130686you stupid chud its the uhh.. PLATONIC love for the earth and mankind LMAO u dont get it????
>>291130639Was there an earlier conversation you had because the few posts I responded to doesn't really illuminate exactly how Lara brought Mari back to life. Does she pay a price? Does she invoke some kind of power? Please, I'm all ears.>mentally ill freakOuch, rude.
>>291130687>look more emotion than mariwhat's happend during six months?
>>291130687>goodbye forever my twink
>>291130714Lots of dicking.
>>291130714Nothing much. Just morphing with a lot of leg pain probably. Guessing with Luca it's a final goodbye compared to Mari, Lisa and her senpai, and the Otsu senpai.
>>291130746Godam. It's been a long time I forgot about F.A.M.
>>291130746>Guessing with Luca it's a final goodbye compared to Mari, Lisa and her senpai, and the Otsu senpai....based on what ?
>>291130686That's interesting right? Switching from mermaid laws to human laws.Maybe this is the price Lara pays for becoming "real"? Because a human ultimately is bound to laws, those that exist outside it are outcasts and beasts.It's like the cake promise, just a fantasy that never came to fruition.
>>291130746holy fucking lmao the cope
can't wait 9 oct for novel.
>>291130766NTA, but you can tell by the way she walks. When she walks away from Mari and her family, she stumbles. That tells you where her real attachment is.
>>291130766The scenery. The place they met. Saying a final goodbye at the exact place where two people first met often marks the full circle of a relationship or a permanent closing of a chapter.
>>291130794The last cope it's good they are still coping
Still samefagging so much
>>291130675Japanese don't tend to offer anything in joint interviews except agreement even when it's fake. They just nod along like they understand. I can't recall the specifics but in their interview Koide said something about his work to create something difficult and a avoid a certain idea by doing this other theme. Tani pointed out how those are the same idea and essentially the same theme so he wasn't doing anything different. Koide responds with a "eh....well-" and you can see the interviewer pushes them into another question to avoid them having to disagree publicly.
>>291130810I mean sure they won't be dating anymore but that doesn't mean it's the last time they'll see each other.
>>291130844"They won't be dating anymore" lol like they weren't dating and breaking up for past six months. Nice cope though
>>291130888did he slip his sausage in thoughever?
>>291130844Who knows. Maybe if he visits Kobe, he can hope. But the way they made sure their last talk was on the bridge basically implied that their relationship has basically fulfilled it's purpose and it ends there. At a romantic sense at least. It's bittersweet. But it was pretty sad hearing Luca trying joke around with her in a friendly tone at the very end and her still speaking to him in a formal tone.
>>291130025Having to be able to stand on your own two legs before being able to find true love is a fine enough message in a theoretical vacuum. It just sucks balls to dump that onto the viewer in the last five minutes with zero buildup and without giving a satisfying conclusion to any of the previous buildups. >Let's not even talk about Mari, she's lonely, her mother died, she has no friend, the only companion she had was her talking fish, who died tooThat's the most atrocious part to me. The show completely dropped Mari as a main character, we're not even getting the conclusion to her mom 2.0 died plot. And she didn't seem to care much either.It's weird since all previous episodes were fairly focused, yet the last one wastes time on starting new last minute plot lines while ignoring essential main characters. What. It shouldn't take a genius to see that this sucks.
Now that you've finally gotten your last illustration will you stop making threads about this shit?
>>291130983no they will release a secret extra episode better than strangers things's and prove that Yuri can be good for fish
>https://x.com/Cho_KaguyaHime/status/2102300076148416846Meanwhile...
>>291130983Sorry anon, there's still this one>>291128743Plus the Winter visual.
>>291130992Isn't that a 500M yen jump in the one weekend since it returned to theaters?
>>291130999300
>>291130414Thank goodness Lara managed to break out of the oppressive system of true love by leaving Mari behind to live her own life instead, look how sad and miserable it's making her here.
>>291131042
>>291130889No way, a princess like Lara wouldn't allow anything before marriage. At which point, she would be too busy scissoring with Mari.
>>291130789If that's the intended message of the show, then it's a needlessly bleak concept that seems to go against what Koide himself said at the start of the broadcast, on top of the execution being terrible. And think about the broader implications of Lara sacrificing her love for Mari to save her. Can she never develop those feelings again? They still spent six months together and yet she comes off as cold and distant to everyone. If she couldn't rekindle the light with the people she already knew and loved, why should we think she can do it elsewhere? Taken to its logical conclusion, Lara either sacrificed her ability to love in its entirety or she will never come to love Mari again specifically (and I think the show is pushing the latter interpretation from her line to Luca about needing to find a new light). Either way it wouldn't be up to her free will, her "independence" was still forced upon her by the mermaids' light just in a different way from what the merfolk wanted, and which the show spent almost its entire runtime on.
>>291131065true true
She really did leave forever after all, wtf. She wasn't going to live in Kobe?
>>291131092she just got tired of luca and mari and wants a new "LIGHT" (protip: new love interest to get smashed by)she's so strong!!
>>291131042>>291131079Were were you when the world stop turning on 9/11/26?
>>291131096Sorry not interested in befriending this cunt
Never trust red heads, they will always stab you in the back when you least expect it
>>291130414>she still has mermaid earsFuck man. This feels like for the past few years they reworked the ending several times and settled on this fucking heap for whatever reason.
>>291131105It's probably just loving herself and learning to live by her own. Pretty boring but well she is also a teenager
>>291131096I hope she comes to Iraq
>>291131096Why would I befriend someone who left her lonely "true love" alone
>>291131096I can't believe Lara left the 2D realm.
>>291131128yeah she JUST couldnt be with mari for reasons! she needs to find herself!!!
>>291131096I'd report her to the relevant authorities for being an illegal immigrant with no papers.
>>291131127>still has fin earsDamn cant cant believe i missed thay.
>>291131136Lol she even left Luca's dih who cares about Mari
>>291130580Pure non-sense
https://x.com/h4sh1rnotoIs this artist AI? They post new drawings literally daily but it doesn't look like AI, there's sketches, etc
The ending looks even worse than that Mass Effect ending
>>291128530I liked too
>>291130414I mean, Mari's pendant also isn't broken, it's clearly just some random art of them together, not a secret new post-epilogue canon. It means about as much as them talking about their fireworks date.
>>291131096Can I befriend Mari instead?
>>291131175No, Mari will never trust someone again.
>>291131152Yes>>291128530Fuck man. "Subverting expectations" killed another good thing.
>>291129579Just a normal Yuri bait
>>291131175Yes, befriend everyone. That's sort of the point. Of course the mentally ill shitposter and his proxies will make it sound negative somehow.
>>291130653>Lauda and Guel were adoptive brothers though so it'd never fucking workNo chance of inbreeding = incest doesn’t count as real incest, so they’re still on the same level as any other two non-related characters. Hell, Citrus is a yuri romance between stepsisters.
>>291131115Why do you keep reminding us of the best part of the film?
>>291131079kek
Kota Won
>>291131197Kill yourself faggotHow many times are you going to whine about this as if anyone with a brain gives a shit? The amount you spam your buzzwords and retarded pet arguments about subverting expectations is disgusting. Really revolting knowing there's some fat piece of shit in a basement spending hour after hour shitposting.
I keep thinking about what the threada would've been like if there was no leak with sabourota doing the manga last episode synopsis lol
>>291131221I keep thinking about what the threads would have been like before the post 2020 /pol/ tourists
>>291128978>picrelWould it have killed them to have this kind of mood in the epilogue? This feels miles more optimistic and less cold than whatever we got.
>>291131096Who would befriend this betraying whore?
Yurisisters are we watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4dAQP5MlCs ?
>>291131096So she went to travel Japan?
>>291131197>YesExplain
>>291131243>cloverworksthis could be good
>>291131232The epilogue feels like the Harry Potter epilogue. I bet it was the first thing that was written and then even it didn't fit with the rest of the story once that was actually done, it just never got changed because the author had already set it in stone as what the narrative was supposed to be working towards.
>>291131127You can overdiscuss a finale and scrap completely fine ideas that you have gaslit yourself into thinking aren't avantgarde enough, so you end up with incomprehensible slop instead.
>>291131264What was so bad about the Harry Potter epilogue aside from it being the blandest, most safe possible conclusion?
>>291131218Stupid ass mouth breather get yourself checked out and stop chasing shadows i just came here to give my opinion and you're just here jumping on people you assume to be your boogieman. Take you own advice and step away for a sec and think abojt how much of your time youve wasted sitting here thinking you're talking to one person.
>>291131251No im not gonna tell you how to make it less obvious youre using ai.
>>291131264It does feel like the ending not changing with the rest of the story and characters, yeah. That'd explain the disconnect.
>>291131244that would've been better. but she's actually going to live alone somewhere else.
>>291131203Citrus' primary genre is yuri though, GWitch wasn't.>>291131201This is my first time seeing yuribait which the main premise being about romance.
>>291131324She is going to live in Kobe
>>291131333Isn't Kobe the last stop or something? If so then it could even be closer than that.
>>291130297What are you looking for exactly? Any specific turn ons and turn offs?
>>291131115Not in Manila where the tragedy happened
>>291131345>What are you looking for exactly?A funny show(and I guess some cool music since it's an idol show) and cute girls having cute interactions. >turn onsFeet, rape-play, magical girl cosplays, glasses, school uniforms
>>291131295Just kill yourself so I can find out what percentage of posts your shitposting accounts for. I promise to spend an hour or two digging into the stats and it'll be the most attention your death gets.
>>291131243It was already on my radar. I'm ready for another doom vampire yuri.
>>291130297Season 1 is an easy recommendation to almost anyone, a decent bit of season 2 is more enjoyable if you have more knowledge of how the idol and seiyuu industry work in Japan imo. The movie is pretty good but relies heavily on your prior attachments to the characters from the anime series, which wouldn't be a problem for newcomers since us fans had to wait 4 years after season 2 for the movie. Hoping for a sequel announcement at next year's live show, which seems pretty likely atp.
>>291130347And Ikuhara was Junichi Satou's protégé.
>>291131384>doomWhat's doom about it?>yuriSeems more like harem yuri
>>291131385>>291130297I also didn't read the gaiden manga which some people say might impact your enjoyment of the movie. I have my problems with certain things about the movie for sure but I'm not entirely sure if reading the manga in advance would've alleviated those issues for me.Also there are 2 drama CDs and they're both very good especially the first one which really makes you fall in love with the characters even more. And the live shows as well as seiyuu live streams are all worth watching. There's 1 particular seiyuu in the cast who sometimes overreact so she's a bit annoying to me but it's nothing unwatchable. The cast all seems like lovely people, and it's also pretty heart-warming to see their growth throughout the series' run since some of the seiyuus were newcomers when the show started.
>>291131359The tragedy of you and your boy getting cucked out of a het end? Based
>>291131425>>291131385Thanks dude. If you don't mind me asking were you the guy that had it in his 3x3? Also how were the threads back when season 1 aired?
I see why it's popular with yuribros, 5 minutes in and the girl is a gamer and parents disappointed in her.
>>291131449This movie is 150% unabashed wish fulfillment except it has a super cool, smart and pretty feMC instead of a bland self-insert male MC (which it was going to have at one point) and that's why it's so good.
>>291131449Wow, she is literally me.Just kidding, Iroha is basically a superhuman.
>>291131442 It already ended in het, the novel did, which is why it made an artist go crazy
>>291131470how dO i be like iroha and attract a mega dyke who I can save with the power of my chinchin?
>>291131445I'm not, but ZLS is definitely one of my favourite anime of all time. I watched it from the start in real time too and the threads were so much fun especially in season 1.
>>291131487>>291131495I think you need some rest, buddy.
>>291131466You are saying that but I am sure a part of you would absolutely love to penetrate Iroha's 17 years old pussy with your dick.
>>291131243Feels like one of those style over substance works, but I'm okay with it.
Never forget 9/11.
>>291131522You already have the reviews:>short 1Comedy>short 2Just fights >short 3This one actually tells a story
>>291131096>unfaithful>flaky>illegal immigrant with no papers and no skills>just uses people and then leavesWhy would anyone want to befriend her?
>>291131505I see. Thanks and have a nice day.
>>290909936 So that's why he keeps reminding us about the date. So we can laugh at him
>>291130972Here is something for you to talk about
>>291131556No problem, always happy to bring in more bakazonbis to the community.
>>291131449Maybe I should rewatch this
>>291131096>Lara Down UnderStrewth, I probably fingered her at a pub in Melbourne. My Little Barmaid.
I just watched it. I'd put it off because everyone was saying it was shit, but man, this was shit. Felt like an old school nonsensical Bones ending.
>Studio Bones is still aliveFucking hell
>>291131652And they made the shittiest anime original anniversary project ever just a couple years ago!
>>291131652???? Did you think it disappeared or what
>>291130833I mean let’s be real: this show, the surrounding discussion from staff, and especially the ending reek of disagreement on how the themes and narrative should’ve been handled and a lack of a unified understanding of what the show was trying to say. It’s a red flag when you say that everyone on the team had different ideas on what true love is and you didn’t want to provide a solid interpretation for it in the show ABOUT true love. By choosing to avoid saying something explicit they just ended up saying nothing at all.
>>291131680Ah fuck, I was just thinking I couldn't remember the last time Bones fucked up an ending since it feels like they'd mostly been doing adaptations recently but now you've gone and reminded me of that shitshow
But why didn't she took the baby to police
>>291131221Would’ve been hilarious. I’m a yuri fan and getting swept up in the hype for the manga adaptation before the ending destroying all the shows’ good will would’ve been a great form of self-torture
>>291128530Very excited for the next project. Hopefully they'll learn what people want and not to shove their heads so far up their own ass.
>>291131740She's too dumb to lie about how she found her
>>291131764>Very excited for the next projectIt's shotakino. But I am sure that they will stop using these old-inspired character designs.
>>291131466lol please point me to the person who’s supposed to self insert into Iroha because I’d like to invest in their android tech startup
cunny!
>>291131221>>291131755Almost everyone on the internet would've been sure we'd be getting the confession and kiss.
>>291131466>(which it was going to have at one point)wut
This ending was just a way to lead into toxic yuri. Heartbroken Mari is gonna absolutely ravage every girl in her boxing club after this and kick them to the curb each time.
>>291131816He's talking about the fact that the movie original idea was to have a boy MC, but the movie would've bombed if it had a streamer girl being close with a guy
>>291131793I'm not saying Iroha is a self-insert, I said they abandoned that idea and then they made her. And you can actually buy all the fate-defying stuff she ends up pulling because she's absurdly talented rather than lame.>>291131816I can't pull up the interview now but they stated that the initial concept had an average male MC.
>>291131713The show trying to do like three separate subversions of its story in the last episode definitely proves that. Not to mention how the ending retroactively makes several (if not most) of the prior episodes feel like pointless meandering that didn’t actually teach Lara anything. The amount of characters in this story was unnecessary too, you could functionally fuse Luca and Mari into a singular character and probably tell a more cohesive story with the ending they went with.
>>291131864Sorry misread what you said. But yeah whoever suggested writing an actual character instead of a self-insert for the main lead was truly genius.
>>291130263>>291130274>>291130686>>2911307891/This is the most likely correct interpretation of the ending >>291130227 and everyone was wrong all along, “true love” wasn’t love of humanity/life/the journey/friends we made along the way, love of self, or even romantic love, it was always completely selfless love, and loving someone so much you’d be willing to sacrifice anything for them and love them from afar without expecting anything back in return.To understand the choice made for this ending and answer to “what is true love” we first have to work backwards into the Original Little Mermaid tale itself, of which Sayonara Lara is a modern retelling and homage to.In the original novel the Mermaid ends up turning into foam because the Prince doesn’t return her love, while this can be thought of as a metaphor for suicide what it really comes down to is that the Mermaid’s biggest mistake and why she turned to foam in the first place was because she was EXPECTING the Prince’s love in return and was really loving him out of her own self-interest for her own benefit, this proved to be her downfall.In Sayonara Lara we bear witness to the after-effects of that tragic end, Lara still harbors bitterness in her heart over the perceived betrayal, and this is represented by the dagger that seeks to kill anyone who ends up becoming her true love. Metaphorically we can think of this as an allegory for Lara’s love/feelings being so selfishly all-consuming that she steals the very “life” from those who she falls in love with.Lara’s lesson to be learned is thus to learn to love without expecting anything in return and be content with that, her previous attempt at love was impure, now she must learn to love “purely” and completely unselfishly.
>>291131852Mari is too nice for that. But she might get exploited herself.
>Lara didn't bake a cake yawn
>>291131864How come you've responded to all the other anons but me? Do you hate me?
>>2911319162/3She keeps running away from her feelings for Mari and trying to force herself to fall in love with anyone but her because she knows that love will kill Mari, and unbeknownstly for her Mari the person has become more precious to her than any feelings of passion she might have for her, thus fulfilling her lesson of learning how to love completely selflessly.It’s this completely selfless love and Lara’s sacrifice of her feelings so long as Mari will live that ends up being the miracle that revives Mari, and with it also permanently transforms Lara into a full human being because what makes humans different from other animals and creatures is our ability to love completely selflessly and put others first before ourselves. In learning to accept love with sacrifice and a love without any ulterior motives Lara finally becomes a true human being, the other merpeople only knew how to love selfishly, and that is why they could never truly become human like Lara did.
>>291131916If you follow this train of thought, then Lara has completely rejected romantic love for the rest of her life. This automatically precludes her from a large part of the human experience.
>>291131932Why would he respond to your shitpost
>>291131932I love you, B-Baka..!!
>>291130263>>291130274>>291130686>>291130789>>291130227>>2911319643/4Now by now you might be wondering “but anon, why does Lara have to end up leaving Mari if the threat of death from her dagger no longer applies now that Lara is human?”Again, the dagger thing was always just a metaphor for selfish, all-consuming love that expects one’s love in return, if we think of it that way than Lara leaving Mari is her forcing herself to quell her feelings for Mari and come back once she’s learned to love in a less codependent, healthier way, to do this she has to learn to stand on her own two feet (represented both metaphorically and literally within the show itself with her new human legs) and not pin so much of her self-worth and sense of self on another person, so I guess the message is still kinda “self love = true love” but more so “true love = selfless love that doesn’t expect love in return” and the latter can only really be achieved if you have other stuff going on in your life and don’t put all your eggs in the basket of one person, this’ll be better for Mari too in the long run because she has to be okay with the idea of being alone too.Alternatively, the ending could also represent a more grim theory of Lara literally KILLING her love for Mari in exchange for Mari getting to live again and being literally and metaphorically reborn anew. (Hence the “Sayonara Lara” title being able to be taken both literally AND metaphorically, it’s her moving on and becoming a new person by giving up the thing that was most important to her - that being her love for Mari).It’s a sad ending either way and this isn’t unprecedented considering the original Little Mermaid also ended in tragedy and this is supposed to echo that just in a different way.
>>291131965>This automatically precludes her from a large part of the human experience.Nta but I am scared I'll never get to experience that either and I am scared. I don't want to die without that.
>>291131964>the other merpeople only knew how to love selfishlyBullshit, Rigmor's true love was never portrayed negatively, she managed to bring light to her kingdom and even sacrificed her life to save Grace. She was just as selfless as Lara and Mari.
>>291131916>>291131964>>291130263>>291130274>>291130789>>291131092>>291130227>>291131964It’s worth noting that this interpretation of “selfless, sacrificial love = true love” really fits with all the Christian imagery going on within the show, since Christine doctrine also believes that true love ultimately equals completely selfless love where you become a martyr of sorts (hence the whole “Jesus died for your sins”)
>>291130227>dark and gritty realistic ending That's why I rated it 1/10
>>291130227>the entire anime: don't look away>ending: hides her face and looks awayBravo Koide, top-tier work with your own themes there.
>>291131964I’m sorry but this is so contrived I can’t stand it. I totally get the idea of learning to love selflessly, but you can love selflessly while still being together with said person??? Mari is ready and willing to return that love and share her life with Lara, but because Lara has learned to love without accepting anything in return she’s going to deny that chance? Deny another fundamental aspect of the human experience? (I disagree with the take that selfless love is a wholly human thing, anyway, there are many example of animals that will prioritize others over themselves)
>>291131967I wasn't shitposting. Don't yuribros actually want to fuck the women themselves? >>291131969Thanks, I want to hug you irl.
>>291131985>Again, the dagger thing was always just a metaphor for selfish, all-consuming love that expects one’s love in return, if we think of it that way than Lara leaving Mari is her forcing herself to quell her feelings for Mari and come back once she’s learned to love in a less codependent, healthier way, to do this she has to learn to stand on her own two feet (represented both metaphorically and literally within the show itself with her new human legs) and not pin so much of her self-worth and sense of self on another personLara and Mari's relationship was never remotely portrayed as harmfully co-dependent even hypothetically. They always gave each other space and in fact they were acting selfless all along, with Lara trying to leave so that Mari wouldn't be sad about her dying and Mari keeping her own feelings hidden to push Lara and Luca together when she thought that would solve the issue. The ending has no bearing with anything the rest of the series had shown.
If it's realistic, how come a baker girl who is still 15 at this point can afford to travel? lol Ok, i'll take it if she travels to one city for a week and then return to mari (and luca).
>>291131985>>291132011So in the end this really just was a retelling of the little mermaid with nothing new or interesting to say. Got it.
Has Koide come out to give an official explanation or are we still waiting on that one?
>>291132034>I’m sorry but this is so contrived I can’t stand it. I totally get the idea of learning to love selflessly, but you can love selflessly while still being together with said person??? Mari is ready and willing to return that love and share her life with Lara, but because Lara has learned to love without accepting anything in return she’s going to deny that chance? Deny another fundamental aspect of the human experience?Because again, this anime is ultimately a homage to the original Little Mermaid which also had a tragic ending, and they’re trying to keep the theme of both that and Christianity as a whole of being a martyr for love, see here >>291132011
>>291131985Ok fine but why does Lara refuse to explain any of this exactly? She up and decides to leave seemingly out of nowhere after six months, claiming she needs to “find a new light”. She doesn’t explain anything to Mari, to the point where Mari is breaking down crying partially out of confusion, and doesn’t even show a hint of emotion toward their parting. You could’ve done a bittersweet or tragic end that was actually well written instead of this slop that I’m supposed to believe is higher art because it’s “up to interpretation” or some bullshit
>>291131916>>291132011How is Lara leaving Mari all alone after everything she has done for her, including fucking dying "selfless, sacrificial love"? If anything it's the most selfish thing because she still chose to fuck off even after Mari told her not to and that she'll miss her. Mari had sacrificed more things than Lara had for Mari.
>>291132100dont try to reason with yuri copers
>>291132041Exactly. You can say that it’s codependent and use your visual motifs all you want but if all you’re showing me is happy and wholesome content between Lara and Mari where they manage to overcome obstacles together and support each other how am I supposed to interpret any other way than a healthy relationship? And you can say you’re tying the story back to it’s Christian themes all you want but you actually have to work to make that make sense and not just tack it on in the last 15 minutes of the show
>>291132081>he posted it again
even bUENO wouldn't have dared to shit out such a shitty ending
>>2911321136 (six) months of lara extracting the semen from luca
>>291132100Don't forget that she also dumped Luca despite allegedly dating him. She just used everyone and fucked off to "find a new light" when she got tired of them.
>>291132107This isn’t even yuri cope this is just “themes and such” cope. All the yuri fans are in agreement this shit ended badly.
>>291132050I've read quotes about him wanting to tell the story of a girl who gains independence, but I have no idea where they're from, if they're real, or if they're post-finale.
Did Luca fucked Lara
>>291132041>The ending has no bearing with anything the rest of the series had shown.It does have bearing that Lara was constantly trying to force “true love” with another because she knew her love would kill Mari>>291132049>So in the end this really just was a retelling of the little mermaid with nothing new or interesting to say. Got it.The “new thing/twist” is that it’s yuri and not straight and also to learn to love without expecting anything in return. The original Mermaid turned into sea foam because she was expecting the Prince’s love back in return, here she finally becomes human because she learns to love completely selflessly, that’s the twist (alongside the yuri).I don’t think the original Little Mermaid was trying to teach the lesson to be content with loving without your love being returned, if anything it taught the opposite, that the ultimate tragedy is to give your love to someone without giving it back and it’s worth killing yourself over, Sayonara Lara actually subverts that message
>>291132116>UENOHe is a kino master but actually misunderstood and hated by ln slop consumers
>>291132136imagine lala directed by buenoinstead of the dagger we would've a flying car, and when we get the 1/4 of screen wide no detail shot of mari triggering lala's love, the car goes on fire, abrupt cut to mari lazying about in the room for 5 minutes without saying a word, feeding gonchannow that would've been ultra kino
>>291132081>Ok fine but why does Lara refuse to explain any of this exactly? She up and decides to leave seemingly out of nowhere after six months, claiming she needs to “find a new light”. She doesn’t explain anything to Mari, to the point where Mari is breaking down crying partially out of confusion, and doesn’t even show a hint of emotion toward their parting.Because she’s trying to remain strong and committed to resolve, that whole Japanese “Yamato Nadeshiko” thing, she’s literally FORCING herself to throw away her love for Mari.
>>291132127chances that the new light will be found in the USA okinawa base?
>>291132161but for what reason you fucking retard? everything was resolved already
>>291132133It’s funny to me that this would be the final message. Yes we should all aspire to become completely selfless creatures with no selfish desires. As we all know this is very much how humans behave in real life, giving out love and care but refusing to accept it in return for reasons. A very healthy mindset that definitely makes Lara feel more human yes.
>>291132153I know you are joking but I actually like him and Idc that he "ruined" light novel slop with his techniques.
>>291130414Luca's wives
>>291132175im only half kidding, shibou yugi is at the same time a trash heap and a masterpiece, idk how he did it. I even watched the cloudy bitches movieat the end of the day you have to think:what emotions is this work triggering? this makes whatever ueno sharted out already 10 times superior to the garbage that lara is.
>redhead that married her wife and wants to build a statue of her to show how much she cares
>>291132169>It’s funny to me that this would be the final message. Yes we should all aspire to become completely selfless creatures with no selfish desires. As we all know this is very much how humans behave in real life, giving out love and care but refusing to accept it in return for reasons.Christian anime, and yes this is in fact the Christkek’s ideal vision of love, they fetishize martyrdom and sacrifice.
>>291132168>everything was resolved alreadyLara still resents humans, the entire series was about her accepting the contradictory feelings of wanting to live on the surface and being traumatized by past experience. That's why she hurts those who get close to her.
>>291132221are you stupid? she literally said that she wanted a world with mari, and she beat the dagger (AKA THE TRAUMA) to save her, so yeah it was pretty much fucking resolvedretard
>>291130414why the fish ears
>>291132196>at the same time a trash heap and a masterpieceI agree and that's why I am happy he is doing more stuff. There is a lot to complain about his works but most complainers were light novel sloppers angry it was not accurate which I could care less about. I am waiting for his next adaptation(and probably maybe an original in the feature, at least a movie)
>>291132266I am angry because he wasted the 10/10 SEXO designs of the LN
>>291132243That's not how trauma works, nothing was resolved except Lara's confusion. That's why there's a somber ending about how mental health requires everyday discipline.How old are you?
>>291132243She isn't living with Mari thoughshe just lied.
>>291132133>It does have bearing that Lara was constantly trying to force “true love” with another because she knew her love would kill MariHeadcanon.
>>291132287>somber ending about how mental health requires everyday disciplineyou're reading too much into nothing, she just left to find a new light, that's all the context we were given, after spending 6 months with everyone and dating on and off luca.anything else is open to interpretation, but the hard facts are that this endings is garbage, and trying to defend it with these pseudo psychological garbage analysis you're trying to do only shows how much of a cuck you are to this animekill yourself irlfaggot
>>291132281Wasted in which sense?
>>291132316the anime wastes a lot of time with out of focus shots and low detail pastel colors figures of the cast, only very few times showing a detailed full body shot. This along with it being barely animated of course...
>>291132315Slit your wrists, shitposterYou won't, you'll make the same garbage posts trying to force your brain rot reactionary anti-fan narratives because you're a tourist who hates anime. Again, just kill yourself so I can find out how many post per day you spam.
>>291132258Pre timeskip/ep 12.
>>291132347how much are you paid per post? or do you do it for free?
>>291132315I’d argue the fact that she explicitly says she’s going to find a new light completely invalidates the “selfless sacrificial” drivel being spouted. She would not being saying that if we were supposed to extrapolate she’s doing this out of some compulsory need to be a completely selfless being
>>291132200How do you feel about Lara and Mari getting the Laugue treatment instead? >>291130580
Why are people comparing this to Kaguya
>>291132363Oh look, more /pol/ memes from a retarded tourist faggot who wastes his entire life shitposting on /a/ day after day due to crippling mental illness and total incompetence in the real world
>>291132334I see, I can understand disliking that. Tbh not really into most of the designs on the ln slop(I am more of a milf again) but I get it.
>>291132258>>291130414would be topkek is lara starts to date luca right after what mari did to her.
>>291132116who
>>291132376The “new light” thing is supposed to be her vowing not to put all her eggs into the basket of “romantic love” so she can learn to be content with the object of affections not loving her back as said here >>291131985
Yuri
>>291132393her choosing luca would've validated that at least she learned to love humans again, but no she has to fuck off for reasons not explained, the light cant be found with the people and friends and (love?) she found, it has to be somewhere else.
>>291132405only a retard and spastic would write it with this intent
>>291132384Because Kaguya made fun of exact this kind of forced shitty ending and it's extremely fitting that Kaguya is a massive success while this is making the few people that liked this give up on it.
>>291132384Because both are about a classic fairytale princess reincarnating in modern Japan and living with a teenage girl, and Kaguya clowns on the exact kind of pretentious ending Lara got.
Every time someone pretends the ending is fine it completely ignores Mari's situation and life and just focus on how this is good for Lara.
>>291130227I’m just glad the last few episodes followed through on their setup about Mari being Lara’s true love and not some bullshit “it’s love of life/humanity/friends we made along the way” copout excuse antiyurifags and Lucafags were coping with once they saw the image of Mari flash before Lara’s when she was asked who her true love is.The ending sucks and is sad yeah, but at least never went back on what they were building up to regarding Mari being Lara’s true love.
>>291132473Every time you samefag to push this forced meme about the ending being bad it's obvious that it's you
>>291132473It's not even guaranteed to be good for Lara anyway, she looks miserable and the show did nothing to convince me she's ready to live on her own.
>>291132473Mari has to learn to love selflessly and be okay with being alone too.
>>291132405>is supposed to beIt's not. Nothing is "supposed to be" because they left everything so vague that anything anyone say can be valid, including completely opposite interpretations to yours.
>In traditional folklore and myth, mermaids are not strictly considered "evil," but rather dangerous, unpredictable, and morally ambiguouswell well well
It was just as obvious when you were spamming with the leaks to already start saying that everyone thinks the ending is bad. You're not subtle.
>>291132490Yeah the girl who still came to see Lara knowing it could kill her still needs to learn to love selflessly
>>291131615>Felt like an old school nonsensical Bones ending.I don't care what people say, Rax had a kino ending.
Hey look, extra material where they're both happier than in the show itself, again.
>>291132405We’re going in circles but 1) The dagger is a piss-poor way of demonstrating ‘codependency’ if that’s ur interpretation because Lara and Mari’s relationship was repeatedly shown to be healthy and one of the only ones that Lara could be comfortable in and 2) Lara needing to go on a journey of ‘self discovery’ and be content with not being loved back is bullshit because Mari DOES love her back and it is in fact more selfish and cruel to abandon her with no explanation given
>>291132516Well we all know this is a what if scenario, they’re not actually happy and together. Just like them seeing the fireworks together, and the seasonal date images, and probably that illustration they posted this morning, etc.
>>291132516Where is this from?
Somehow this is even worse than Erased ending
Also if you paid attention there was foreshadowing to this ending and “true love = selfless sacrificial love,” case in point Himeka’s episode and her learning to be okay with her unrequited love.And hey maybe Lara’s leaving because she KNOWS Mari doesn’t love her back like that and only considers her a friend, after all she never once got jealous of Luca and was actually pushing Lara to date him.
>>291132539Some sort of campaign they did on the website or something
>>291132474>never went back on what they were building up to regarding Mari being Lara’s true lovebut lara abandoned marishe doesnt love her, her finding a new meaning to her life (I guess this is the parallell to find this damn new light) tramples whatever feeling mari held for her and that she has? or doesnt? who knows lmao
/a/ is dead because all discussion is deliberately killed by ban evading samefagging shitposters who spam their bad faith interpretations to claim everyone agrees something is bad. Once they pick a show to demolish, they keep spamming until there is no one else posting.
>>291132516Just like the fireworks thing it’s alternate timeline
>>291132566you're the faggot samefagging about this tho
>>291132558Ok, it looked almost like a cel.
>>291132567alternate timeline where Lara isn't straight
>>291132566I've been here since episode 1You don't need to be a shitposter to know this ending is abysmal
>>291132546Tell me how what Himeka did was self-sacrificial. The point of the Himeka episode wasn’t that she was being self-sacrificial it was coming to terms with the idea that love isn’t as simple as who you seem ‘fated’ to be with, and even after losing something so immense you can go on to find new love and connections. Lara abandons her new love and connections instead. At this point I think I’ve realized your just shitposting
>>291132546>after all she never once got jealous of Luca and was actually pushing Lara to date him.watch episodesnot just the ending
>>291132517>Mari DOES love her backRomantically though considering she never got jealous of Luca and was encouraging them to be together? Lara probably thinks she’s straight and thus doesn’t want to burden her with her romantic feelings.
>>291132590bro stop
>>291132534This pic and the other with them chatting on the phone feel truer to what they probably wanted to portray than what they actually did. Lara's not across the world, she's a train ride away, her moving out is a good thing, and so on. Instead of all this sadness and coldness they could just have done like in these pics and half the complaints would have no reason to be.
how /u/ now?
I'm just glad that LARA had the courage to abandon her friends, family and love to TRULY find out her place in the world!Such a strong woman! What a self-less decision!!!
>>291132566/a/ is dead because a retarded narrative of "everyone who doesn't agree with me is one person" has taken over the site, because you people just got used to only discussing things in safe spaces and bubbles with other people that agree with you, so every time someone disagrees with you, you are filled with disbelief.Kill yourself btw
>>291132590You realize ever new addition to your ‘theory’ you add just circles back to making the ending even more shit, right? If this was the case maybe Lara should’ve learned that communication is a basic fucking skill that humans have and talked to Mari about how she was feeling instead of ditching her lmao
>>291131096Lara? A modern woman (only does situationships). This cant be a coincidence lmao. The ending is literally zoomerettes to a t.
>>291132608Director-kun said to look for Lara in your local Japanese town so she’s actually travelling around Japan/the world not staying a town over from Mari
Don't hate Lara, she was a sweetheart for eleven and a half episodes. Hate the writers who destroyed her character in the last few minutes for no reason.
>>291132634she's doing the calippo tour
>>291132612Nta but what >"everyone who doesn't agree with me is one person" has taken over the site,This belief has been here for like more than decade, probably even longer
She really pump and dumped Luca huh…
>>291132634Yeah, I love that the new post from the director disconfirms all the retards going "she will ONLY be 40 mins aways". She IS going all over Japan, at the very least.
>>291128928I'm a yuri fag and somehow ended up liking Luca more... It's that bad in the yuri aspect...
>>291132623>You realize ever new addition to your ‘theory’ you add just circles back to making the ending even more shit, right? If this was the case maybe Lara should’ve learned that communication is a basic fucking skill that humans have and talked to Mari about how she was feeling instead of ditching herWell again, maybe that’s part of the whole twist and homage to the original Little Mermaid’s tragic ending, since if you remember the Mermaid and the Prince DID have mutual feelings for each other but a misunderstanding and inability to communicate drove them apart.
>>291132630Tbh, this. And fags were arguing that the director is doing something conservative when in reality he is literally portraying modern millennial/zoomer women. I wish he portrayed traditional values instead.
>>291132612It's all the same three faggots from /pol/ who use unique buzzwords, sharty raiders, etc. lolNone of you shitposting retards come here for anything good faith, you are mentally ill scum that waste every single day spamming this board because you have nothing else besides killing yourself left after squandering every potential your life had
>>291132661lol
>>291132642According to some she was actually a selfish monster and her abandoning everyone who cares about her was the only good thing she’s done so far
>>291132169And it's also absolute nonsense, because Lara going away to find her new light is a selfish desire by itself. She's not leaving to work as a charity volunteer or something; she just wants to experience new things.
>>291132650>probably even longerNot "even longer", no. Take it from someone who has been here for multiple decades. And the hivemind behavior in general that people have started expecting from other posters is exactly the problem.
>>291130414Bro that never happened
>>291131876Luca is decently funny and coherent if you actually commit to the hetbait. If you don't, he's kinda pointless, yeah.
will lara open an onlyfans?
>>291132634She's renting an apartment, why would she waste money doing that if she was going not to use it while she's traveling?
>>291132612This.
>>291132676How is it a selfish desire when she looked absolutely fucking miserable leaving and looked like she was forcing herself not to cry by remaining stone cold and silent?
>>291132661Ahhh I see the issue now. You’re underdeveloped monkey brain couldn’t even recognize that the prince in the original tale does not in fact love the mermaid beyond an affectionate “she’s like a pet companion to me” type of feeling
>>291132665Such as Lara and Mari loving and supporting each other until they eventually get married in the family church and raise a family of beautiful half-mermaid children born in clams.
>>291132695How is it NOT a selfish desire when she still decided to leave her "true love" to search for a "new light" after Mari sacrificed her life for her and then told her not to leave and that she'll miss her?
>>291132686*onlyfins
>>291132681>Take it from someone who has been here for multiple decades.How long? I've looked through the archive and I've seen some hiveminds even back then.
>>291132716>trying to reason with yuritroonslol
>>291132709I am ok with yuri as long as its not associated with modern politics.
>>291132705>Ahhh I see the issue now. You’re underdeveloped monkey brain couldn’t even recognize that the prince in the original tale does not in fact love the mermaid beyond an affectionate “she’s like a pet companion to me” type of feelingIsn’t he in search for the girl who saved him whom he deems his true love which happens to be the very mermaid but he just doesn’t know it’s her cause she can’t tell him?
>>291132727I'm a yurifag myself niggerfaggot
>>291132737im a yuriCHAD, not a yuritroonbig difference
>>291132727>trying to reason with people who bring up valid argumentsI’m sure it’s hard to do so when you’re missing half your frontal lobe yeah
>>291128530Moral of the story: Boxing never abandons you and it will always be there for you. Fishes are temporary, boxing is eternal.
>>291132727Mari still ended up being Lara’s true love like we all said, that never changed even though her feelings might’ve, and Luca was always going to lose.Cope and seethe!
>>291132727>yuritroonsBuzzword used by a single shitposter
>>291132748why dont you respond to him then? going for 'shes mentally ill acskuhally (just like me!!!)' angle? lol
>>291132473I don't see how it's good for Lara either. She's a 15 year old with no papers, no education, no skills, no support network, and she barely understands the modern world. The only way this little "independence" adventure is gonna end is her cleaning toilets and sleeping under a bridge with drunken hobos.
>>291132750Boxing absolutely abandons you by wrecking your brain a little at a time.
>>291132750
>>291128575Mari's dangling legs
>>291132754>Mari still ended up being Lara’s true love like we all saidhow? why does he abandon her then?
>>291132777Mari's future...
>>291132116Ueno would have turned everything that happened in the last three episodes into a flashback watched by Lara in the present, followed by a cryptic dream sequence that may or may not have been caused by drugs. In other words, pure KINO.
>>291132766>I don't see how it's good for Lara either. She's a 15 year old with no papers, no education, no skills, no support network, and she barely understands the modern world. The only way this little "independence" adventure is gonna end is her cleaning toilets and sleeping under a bridge with drunken hobos.It’s a fairytale and you’re not supposed to take it literally you completely media illiterate fag
>>291132766You know that kind of independence is exactly what pseudo intellectuals expect from people in general.Just throw your 18 years old into the open and expect them to work it out, just the basic utopian expectation that sounds good on paper.
>>291132473Mari will be fine. There's plenty of fish in the sea
>>291132791it would've been absolute cinema
>>291132792but we have to understand the metaphysical implications of how she's basically new jesus and that's why she's going to the mecca to transcend this earth lmoa
>>291132784Because she's a bitch and is looking for a new light instead.But it is a fact she was her true love as far as the dagger logic works.
>>291132784She was the true love she was afraid of killing, not her “anchor” to her “real true love” that is the human world like you all were coping.
>Looking at the script, I was surprised: a lot of the explanatory dialogue that was in the script has been cut out of the broadcast version. Was this a deliberate choice to subtract information?>Koide: On set we often said, “If we do it that way, it’ll just become anime.” It’s not that we’re rejecting anime at all, but for this project we wanted to create something tough and raw—something viewers could feel had a real connection to their own lives. So we deliberately tried to keep lines that “sound exactly like something an anime character would say” as far away as possible. At the same time, that approach means sacrificing clarity, so figuring out how to convey the necessary information in just 24 minutes (one episode) was a real struggle and very difficult. On top of that, the writers—Kawara (Anna) and the others—had put in such tenacious effort to carefully structure the script, and we ended up changing a lot of those well-organized scenes. In that sense, a constant feeling of guilt and conflict stayed with us the whole time.they basically cut out everything and explain nothing
what's next for mari and luca??
>>291132792Oh, so that part is selectively not supposed to be tough and grounded?
>>291132798>Mari is gonna fuck Luna when she wakes upYep, fuck that whore Lara
>>291132792The director literally said he wanted it to be a "tough and raw" story. You can't have it both ways.
>>291132816>>291132815but she left her because she wanted to find a new light, meaning something that makes her heart go dokidokishe literally doesnt love mari, or at least doesnt anymore
>>291132819>we don't want to be like a regular anime!This about sums it all up. It is no surprise only people who think they're better than "regular anime" are making shit up to praise this shitshow of an ending.
>>291132829>>291132833What’s not “tough and raw” about conveying she needs to/will leave but not getting into the logistics of it all? It’s about conveying a tragic/bittersweet feeling, not explaining all the details of how she’ll even be able to make it on her own.
>>291132792Yes that's why Mari wasn't worried about Lara not having any papers just a couple episodes before. Oh wait, she was.
>>291132856It's certainly raw as in uncooked.
>>291132819It worked for the majority of the anime, but it doesn't work for a timeskip where the characters suddenly aren't acting like themselves and you're left wondering WTF happened.
>>291131985This is probably the correct interpretation, or at least the most coherent one that I'd like to think is what Koide was going for. But it's just not what the show was about for 98% of its run time. What the show was about was Lara angsting over having to fall in love with a guy while comphet (or whatever you think is is an allegory for) forces her to ignore the actual love interest.You absolutely could fold that into an "even the actual love interest still isn't enough" end, but that needs several more episodes, not five minutes. And emotional payoff is important too - you can't just skip because we're so artsy and open to interpretation teehee and expect fans to not throw a stink about that.
>>291132868>Yes that's why Mari wasn't worried about Lara not having any papers just a couple episodes before. Oh wait, she wasOkay thinking about it further this would be a really grim and dark ending but considering the director’s words and the original tale, what if she “went away” to literally commit suicide and her searching for “a new light” is supposed to be a reference to heaven? This would also explain why she’s so out of character those last few moments with Mari and seems really solemn with a finality to it.
>>291132882This, I don't think that approach is bad in itself and it obviously worked at the beginning and I appreciate not making Mari a loud mouth but he just wrote a garbage ending. I hope this won't send the opposite message that "only shonen where mcs narrate all of their thoughts are good we shouldn't try anything else"
>>291132888some people are just content with headcanoning shit to justify liking garbage
>>291132898That would make NO SENSE considering in the LITERAL PREVIOUS SCENE she said she doesn't want to disappear because she wants to live in a world with Mari in it.
>>291132898The director said a while ago that he wanted a happier ending than the OG little mermaid got, so I don't think you need to go that far into darkness.The simplest explanation I can find is just that they wanted to epilogue to feel all mature and looks how Lara's grown up making her own decisions and living on her own, but fumbled it and it ended up feeling cold and detached. That's all.
I rewatched Kaguya and now I’m cleansed.
>>291132856Okay, so we're not supposed to expect it to make logical sense, and we don't get any explanation about why it happened. The point is, apparently, a tragic/bittersweet feeling just for the hell of it. Cool.Remind me, what was the point of watching the previous 12 episodes again?
>>291132910The same approach could have been fine if some more time had been dedicated to it instead of just five minutes at the very end while we're speedrunning goodbyes.
>>291132941based, I downloaded the BD today, finna rewatch soon
>>291132944A reminder that one jap in takano's post mentioned that he expected this ending, because, in the opening, there's a scene of Lara standing on her tip toes to reach something, and he concluded that was showing that she was doing her best to stand on her own. Yes, someone thought the ending was fine because of a small scene in the opening.
>>291132936>to epiloguethe epilogue*
I think the ending hurts more because Mari is genuinely a very believable character, very human-like and not something that you find often, especially in modern media. Am I the only one that felt that way?
The issue is that they're trying to subvert a series about finding true love to a series about independence. This would've been fine if it actually had a buildup but they spent the past 11.5 episodes building up Lara finding her true love and not about Lara being independent.
>>291133004lara is realer thoughever, she's the quintessential modern woman, all about EGO.
>>291132977If they didn't post about this before the finale, then they're full of shit and are just going back for any little thing that could fit just to go "akchually".
>>291133031>all key visuals, promos and the episodes themselves were about *hint hint, wink, GL baby ;)*>it's about le stronk independent mermussylol
>>291132968>I downloaded the BDI thought yurifags support their shit.
>>291133004I appreciated her being stoic and understated, while still being a warm and caring person. Made her feel layered.
>>291133041They did post it after the finale. You shouldn't be surprised most people pretending the ending is fine are just acting like they knew all along that this was about something completely different from true love.
>>291133049I love all anime (except yaoi because im not a faggot) and I even paid for CR at a point. but they dont even let me take screens bro with their shitty DRM, torrenting is literally the superior method of watching animo.
>>291128530Is this worth watching? I tried the first episode but never got around to watch the rest
>>291133082Yes if you stop when the screen says "6 months later" in the final episode and headcanon your own endinf
>>291129818Are they really? Isn't everywhere but the megalopoli abandoned and thus cheap?Also Shiga is landlocked I believe
>>291133058I'm not surprised, I've seen plenty of these takes. "media literacy" was also mentioned.
>>291133082If you can stomach the story doing a swerve literally five minutes before it ends, absolutely. If not, just stop when it jumps 6 months later and it'll be fine.
It's too bad this show isn't really popular because whatever discourse around it we do have is genuinely hilarious.
The more I think about this ending the angrier I am. These separation endings usually have plot reason of why the characters can't stay together and that's fine. But here Lara just fucked off on her own volition even after realizing Mari is her true love. Even after Mari lost everything and told her to stay. Genuinely, what the fuck were they thinking?
>>291133004She has trauma without having woman moments about it, that alone makes her great.Turns out however that's primarily because the show isn't interested in any drama that isn't 100% about Lara. She's not understated, she's a plot device. At least that's what the last five minutes are telling me, and I hate them for it.
>>291133137I hate the ending but I hate anitube trannies even more. Fuck whoever is giving those normalfag retards a platform.
>>291133141This time it's a character reason, and that's fine. Bbut you don't get to be privy to said character's thoughts that would help you understand her decision because... because. And that's not fine.
>>291133049NTA, I got the novel, manga, guidebook and I have the October batch of the limited edition BD preordered, Studio Chromato were cunts who only sold it on their website with no shipping outside Japan so I had to use a proxy service.
>>291133137>one month agoWhat was the argument here? I feel like the ending only validated it.
>>291132919You can also just wonder how a show that was great for 11.5 episodes could drop the ball so hard. There's got to be an explanation that made sense in the heads of the creators, otherwise you're really just left with "Koide had a bad breakup towards the end of the production" as an explanation.
>>291132819Can we start actually gassing directors in their own farts already?
Coming to Mari's boxing match!Cheering for Mari!Catching her after school to tell her how much you admire Mari's talent!Talking about Mari's interests!Becoming friends with Mari!Asking Mari out!Going on a fun date with Mari!Growing closer to Mari!Filling the void in Mari's heart!Making Mari happier than ever before!Telling Mari that you're suddenly going on a journey of self-discovery and breaking her heart!Mari!
>"Thank you for spending 10 years of your life making me a body, but now I need to leave you alone so I can explore the real world. Oh, I also fucked your brother a couple of times in the past 10 years, bye!"
It's called sayonara lara not lesbian wedding lara
>>291133247Kek this is really what it felt like
let's see how this anime original goesoh well, better luck next timelet's see how this anime original goesoh well, better luck next timelet's see how this anime original goesoh well, better luck next timelet's see how this anime original goesoh well, better luck next timelet's see how this anime original goesoh well, better luck next timelet's see how this anime original goesoh well, better luck next timelet's see how this anime original goesoh well, better luck ne
>>291133278Of the past 5 modern(2020+) originals I've watched 2 were good, 2 were ok and lara had a shit ending. But you can also just watch past one after they've aired and there is a consensus. Your fault desu
>>291133237It's just the pretentious anime original special where they fill the runtime with normal scenes with universally appeal, get drunk on the praise and forget to assign enough time to the ending. Just like Kamisama ni Natta Hi.
>>291133245BASED BASED BASED!THATS MY MERMAID!!!!!!!
>>291131916>>291131964>>291131985>>291132011So basically what you're saying is that Lara is a real human bean and a real hero...
The ending’s fine, you’re just all a bunch of ADHD ridden zoomer speedwatchers who can’t into media literacy or subtlety and need everything spelled out for you.
>>291133278I liked World Dai Star and that was the last anime original I watched outside of movies.
>>291133245kek
Who gives a shit about mari bruh. Why are yurifags acting like everyone has to care for mari and she even has Luca anyways
>>291133278Girls Band Cry had an ok ending
>>291133366>she even has Luca anywaysHere lies Luca: He never scored.
>>291133346You sure you got all the buzzwords? I feel like you're missing at least a couple there.
>>291133247Larabros, the Kaguyafags are laughing at us...
>>291133308That garbage was never good, and certainly not coherent.Sayonara Lara was actually coherent for most of its run time. The ending isn't the logical conclusion to a chaotic mess of disjointed ideas like most originals, it's the the end of an entirely different show tacked onto this one.
>>291133346>true love for 11.8/12 episodes>lol jk it's about independence (ignore that by having a job she is already 10x more independent than the average nip HS student)
>>291133367True, only anime original thing I've watched from start to finish lately was GBC and Kaguya, doing fine myself as far as originals go.
>>291133373>He never scoredwe dont know...
Why the hell didn't they just put this end card as an actual scene in the show and finish the series on it? You still get to have your coward ambiguous non-romantic ending, just without outright taking a dump all over the viewers.
>>291133366Mari has never talked to Luca when it's not about Lara
>>291133366>Who gives a shit about one of the main characters?If you don't care about her, then that's also another failure on the writer, so that's not the defense you think it is.
>>291133384>thinks it’s about independence Here’s yet another media illiteratefag that pose was talking about, it’s not it’s about true love = selfless sacrificial love that expects nothing in return.
The visuals storyfags were the worst throughout the time. the anime's genre isn't Yuri the visual story was nothing and just eye candy
Me when i get yuribaited for the 25th time and never learn
>>291133400You are replying to a shitposter, if it wasn't obvious enough and needs someone to spell it for you.
>>291133415yeah bro she loved her so much that she left her LMAO
>>291133381They will see, in 10 years Lara will be remembered as cult classic while no one will remember one of the biggest movies in the 2020s...
>>291132100My interpretation of the ending (cope) is that Lara has to keep chasing new light in order for Mari to continue existing in this world. At least until a sustainable source is found.
>>291133247I feel bad for Asahi, he's gay and probably only folded because the 200+kg android threatened him.
>>291133400And mari Lara met each other because Lara came to the surface to find a human prince for her true love. Your point? How someone meets doesn't matter
>>291133442>in 10 years Lara will be remembered as cult classicBRO
>>291133449because mari couldnt provide light apparently
>>291133367I mean most cgdct originals have ok-good ending,
>>291133402She has more than enough support supporting family club and now even Luca. Her wanting someone to constantly talk with is just privilege
LUCA WILL FUCK MARI
>>291133460Nta but if you didn't get the irony of that post you are genuinely <80 IQ(so about the average iq of a modern 4chan user)
Why’d all the nips love the ending while only Westerners hate it could? Could it be they’re actually media literate and can understand subtly while dumb burgers can’t?
>>291133476It's so peak
>>291131274HermiHarry shippers complained enough for Rowling to publicly concede that HermiRon was a mistake.https://gizmodo.com/j-k-rowling-says-hermione-should-have-married-harry-n-1514204695>I wrote the Hermione/Ron relationship as a form of wish fulfillment. That’s how it was conceived, really. For reasons that have very little to do with literature and far more to do with me clinging to the plot as I first imagined it, Hermione ended up with Ron.>I know, I’m sorry, I can hear the rage and fury it might cause some fans, but if I’m absolutely honest, distance has given me perspective on that. It was a choice I made for very personal reasons, not for reasons of credibility. Am I breaking people’s hearts by saying this? I hope not.
>>291133476Luca doesn't deserve Mari.
>>291133476big if true
Take a break from here and go watch today's episode of Kimishinu.
>>291133469GBC is not "CGDCT"And even if you count it as CGDCT, Jellyfish that aired in the same season had terrible ending
>>291133485But they hate it.
>>291133489who cares? faggy potter is 100% foid writing
>>291133485An actual author was disappointed enough he made a post about it. The disappointment had to be immeasurable for that to happen, considering how this almost never happens.
>>291133501does sheena stay in the kitchen this time around? mimi should just whip her a bit to teach her manners
>>291133491>Luca doesn't deserve Mari.Neither does Lara now.
>>291133489Hm, maybe I was too young when I read the books but I never really got into its shipping at all so I didn't mind the pairs they went with. I might change my mind if I read them again now.
After Lara left.
>>291133415Wow, we all thought that uncles were sad and unloved, but it turns out that women adore them so much they selflessly leave them completely alone... People who have partners who only love them enough to stay by their side forever instead of self-sacrificially moving three cities to get away from them must be so jealous of that kind of beautiful devotion.
Last original I watched was Towa no Yuugure and I think I like Lara more
>>291133519Which author?
>>291132813>going to meccaImagine if this anime was about Islam instead of Christianity. Mari would have four wives.
>>291133415>thx 4 dying 4 me bye bye>true love
>>291133485>loved itDid they? All I see is people being lukewarm on it.
>>291133539>Bottom says friendship”Luca/Mari never ever.
>>291133543https://x.com/takano_wf/status/2102078697973141602
>>291133539>Yoshiya gained a twink bf and a trap little brotherBased
>>291133539>There's only one girl on this picture, can you find her?
>>291133506>, Jellyfish that aired in the same season had terrible endingJellyfish was drama shit, not true cgdct. It's very easy to make an ending to a cgdct series.
>>291133501Does Mimi finally hit Sheena for not being a good housewife?
>>291133539At least they're self-aware enough to know Yoshiya would be the center of attention and that Mari would only stick around to accompany him rather than trying to pretend she made meaningful connections with Luca and Leo.
>>291133578GBC had as much drama if not more than Jellyfish
>>291133565I he/she a mangaka?
>>291133485I've seen about a dozen nips complaining about the ending in my timeline, on main, not burners, with several dozen more politely saying they don't understand it, we're surprised or some other flowery variation of "u-uhh, okay, so that's the director's vision, naruhodo". As far as Japanese media reception goes, that's gotta be burning down the studio levels of hatred.
>>291133593Ok then my bad. I was wrong about it.
>>291133599mangaka and one VN.
>>291133539Does Yoshiya expect to feel the willy against his neck?
>>291133539from animator?
>>291133621That's exactly why he offered the ride
>>291133565Damn, he worded the criticism better than any yurifag here did.
Kaguya promotes escapism
Zenshuu had a great ending.
chink humor is fascinating
The 2 new mononoke movies I've watched had both good endings and I liked the Kaguya ending as well even if it wasn't perfect. Thoughts on the virgin punk ending?
>>291133648Kaguya promotes working hard to achieve your goals no matter how unrealistic.
>>291133655zenshuu as a whole is shit
Goodbye Lara is for realists. Lesbianism is frowned upon in Japan. Both Mari and Lara would be more happy with a man and kids.It's bitter, but it's for the best
>>291133645I think you just like the almost apologetic form of writing better. Even after going out of their way to post dissatisfaction, it's clear he still wanted to avoid burning bridges.
>>291133687sasuga karoshi no kuni
>>291133701Nothing realistic about a teenager girl with little to no skills and basically no civil papers somehow managing to live a travel lifestyle in Japan.
>>291133696You are just mad because it is a straight story. Cope yurifag
>>291133696That's like your opinion buddy, I thought it was fun and had a good ending
>>291133696No.
>>291133724Lara needs a man who will show her the whole world (only Japan)
>>291133565He just posted a follow up toning down his criticism after it started gaining top much traction, lmaoJaps are really terrified of confrontation
>>291133779Genuinely surprised he didn't outright delete this post. But that's about what you would expect.
>>291133754Oh he will introduce her to the whole world, that being the brothel she will never ever set fin out from in her life after she gets kidnapped in an alley somewhere.
>>291133696>>291133655I thought it was about mappa being bitter faggots over not getting look back rights first?
Goodbye Laura
Kaguya won.
>>291133808It was a love letter to anime.
>>291128530>This was supposed to be studio's anniversary project. Pathetic.
>>291133889Still better than Metallic Rouge
>>291133353WDS had a pretty damn great final episode.>>291133506Etoilet had a better ending than both GBC and YoruKura.
Translated from a Japanese comment on YouTube:As confirmed, Westerners just didn’t get it.
>>291133933>EtoiletWtf is that??
>>291133936
>>291133936The Chinks and Gooks dont get it either
>>291133928undeground bar to jump over
>>291133982A lot of nips are calling it shit too.
>>291133985Yurifag nips exist
>>291133936Now check if he really got it all along by searching for his comments in previous episodes.
>>291133936That’s just Koide’s alt
>>291133962>muh traditional Japanese endingsThat fucking Kaguya clip should be posted a million times more.
>>291133936yet another post that completely ignores Mari existence, it's just too funny, every time they act like Lara is the only character in this story when they want to view it in a positive light.
>>291133936>This can be said to be an important message for those who have experienced betrayal and those who are heartbroken by heartbreakSo Mari?
>>291134036But that’s the correct way to consume this anime
>>291133962>this is a story how to face the pain of love and the risk of being hurt by opening your heart to someoneYeah, this is bullshit. You don't face anything by ditching the people you supposedly "opened your heart to" without any explanation. Also, I like how this completely ignores Mari's experience in this mess.
Plot devices don't have feelings, they can just be shown smiling even as their heart gets broken into a million pieces.
THIS SHIT IS SO ASS
When will the whining stop? It's already getting boring.
It's amusing how this ending made people just go and watch CPK instead. Even saw some people do that on the JP side.
>>291134113When kantokuchan ritually harakiris
>>291134083she's happy she can finally move on from the stinky mermussy
>>291134128I'd like to see>>291128635end up being seen by japs, I feel like a lot of them would find it pretty funny, and they wouldn't need to put their criticism into words like they hate doing.
How do you rate an anime that was great until the final 5 minutes?
>>291134141She's a boxer she likes foul smells.
>>291134049My favourite social media post about this was some mad as fuck Russian, who declared that if a girl ever calls you the love of her life, she's a bitch and a whore and you should run away immediately.
>>2911341520/10 for literally tumbling on the finish line.
Kek. Thanks Larakeks. More Kaguyabucks for us hehe.
>>291134152I gave it a 4. I rate most slop I watch 5. out of 10 of coruse
>>291134152Have 2 ratings, one for the anime without those and for it with those. Not that it matters, mal ratings are for normalfags
>>291134171S-STOP LAUGHING, KAGUYACHUD
>>291134149This was already posted on twitter and some Japs saw it in the quote.https://x.com/Markk_lastname/status/2101861151445287074
>>2911341711 billion more yen at the box office over the next week.
>>291134178No shit, most media is a 5/10. Where do you rate them? Post you list if you have any.
>>291134190what was the current fuck you musk i won't sign up url edit agaib?
>>291133949
>>291134152Botching the very ending is a pretty big sin for me.If I was going to originally rate it around 8, the ending turns it into a 5 for me.
>>291133565Pretty much what I've seen echoed in various places. That this would come from the official account of a Japanese author though, that's rare.
>>291133565Literally who?
>>291133519I know Shirahama (WHA) followed it too, I wonder how she felt about it. On one hand I wanna know, on the other maybe it's for the best that she hasn't said anything yet.
>>291134198https://anidb.net/user/1120089/votepassword: niggers
>>291134152I have no idea. Without the epilogue it's full marks, with it it's nearly half that.
>>291134263Anidb? Wow I haven't used that in so fucking much. I still think anilist is the superior database but nice password
>>291134247Yurifag mangaka
>>291134263There are still places that allow for 7 character passwords with no dumb specific requirements like numbers or uppercases to make makes it weaker even weaker in 2026?
>>291134333it's a pass to view some fucking votes for anime as a guest bro, we dont need useless uppercase/lowercase/symbols/numbers and min chars for everything FFS
>>291134345sorry I didn't click and thought it was just a shitpost tehepero
>>291134068I hope all of these people are haunted by the ghost of Mari's mom.
>>291134333Maybe it's a really old account that never changed passwords.
>>291133539>that Mari smileLads I'm a bit more happy now ;_;, at least Luca stays friends with her
>>291134504It's just an animator, as good as fanart.
Will this be the final thread?
Chinese users are writing poems about Mari now?
>>291134741The chinks will write poetry for anything and everything
>>291134715I think this is the last one for me. Fuck you, Lara.
>>291134715I'm sure we can do more, but the quality of the discussion is not guaranteed.
>>291134852>quality of the discussion is not guaranteedthat's every lara thread
>>291134852Yes I know I'm in cuatrochan no need to rub it in
>>291134741It's funny how everybody except for the Nips seem to agree that the ending is shit in a hundred different ways.
>>291134715wait I just woke up let's do at least one more to cope and seethe together
>>291134966Criticism isn't allowed in Japan.
How would Anderson feel about Salala
>>291134741I appreciate the chinks for having a backbone at least
>>291135137They have it on their own image boards(which this slop site copied) thoughever
>>291135237They're defending the ending there too
>>291135237I should assume every mangaka uses 2ch right?
>>291135137Oshi no Ko's ending made them seethe hard.
>>291135342From what I've seen it's mostly hate(and 4chan cucks are defending the end as well)>>291135351Nope, they aren't but that's a strawman, I've already proven your argument wrong.
>>291135372I wasn't that guy I hated the ending. I just never considered nor researched how widespread 2ch usage is.
This will be my headcanon from now on.
Futaba img had 3k post on the live watch 2k within hours after.
