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Don't forget to put on your trusty tinfoil hat. You wouldn't want government electromagnetic waves reprogramming your subconscious with propaganda.


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>>291219196
Well, bat. What do I want?
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>>291219370
Read grayneutral.
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>>291219813
This feels like it's one of the more clearer pages that spell out what the bat's meant to represent
Unfortunately I've become retarded from masturbating long ago
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>>291219358
A disaster in September, you say?
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>>291219532
I now feel like rooting for him
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>>291219861
Thx man.
I'm excited for the upcoming chapters. They have my favorite payoff for a character ever.
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>>291219861
Really good chapter today
Thanks OP
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>>291219861

Thanks, great chapter again. Urasawa's really good at building up characters and eventually making plot points fit together
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>>291219861
Narration: He did not, in fact, come back from America.
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>>291219342
Holy fuck, it's like a biblical event.
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>>291219342
Violence Jack
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>>291222353
you can't be japanese, have a story set in that time and not talk about the great kanto earthquake.
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>>291222628
>130,000 deaths
/a/nons in their 30s, or over, can remember the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami, which estimated death toll of approximately 227,000 to 230,000 people (160,000 to 170,000 in Indonesia alone) to think about the scale of Kanto earthquake.
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>>291219861
if zofuu just gave the order then kurusu could've been an artist too
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>>291219861
Shishou...
Thanks OP
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>>291219861
Thank you for posting.
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>>291223851
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>>291225807
for a split second I genuinely thought someone had thrown a batarang in that bottom panel
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>>291219843
>When I get back from America
oh no no no...
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>>291225808
Thank you for posting!

>>291225615
>Johansson from Sweden
Swedish comic artist Charlie Christensen has drawn his own version of Donald Duck since 1983, called as Arne Anka, who views the Swedish society from a critical lense. Disney threatened legal actions to Christensen because Arne was drawn similarly to Donald, so Christensen altered Arne's beak and name (into Arne X). But Arne would later buy a fake duck beak, basically going back to his old look, and he would remove the false beak whenever Disney lawyers confronted him.

picrel translation: "I have no problem with alcohol, I have a problem with reality!"

There's also this Swedish artist Lasse Ã…berg, who has made sketchy Mickey Mouse pastiches since the early 1980s, but he's more of an artist than a cartoonist
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>>291225892
Fascinating.
I wonder how many people died just for making Billy Bat tijuana bibles while deployed
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shot in the dark but has anyone come across anything kinda like picrel but with billy bat fighting shonen bat from paranoia agent or other memetic virus characters in an absurdly "epic" way?
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>>291225728
yeah, when he got a hand on a gun this is exactly what I expected to see
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>>291225892
Oh shit I remember this duck, there was some thing about like, him complaining about women complaining about anal sex
I just thought it was an adult parodied edgy Donald, it's really cool it was a separate thing!
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>>291225892
okay, but did these guys genuinely come up with their versions on their own?
because if they took Disney's characters and altered them, then I have to admit Disney's got a point
Billy Bat implies the "fakes" all came with the idea independently, because the bat spoke to them
that's a different situation

or is the manga taking a stance against copyright itself
that's a much more hairy discussion, but I don't feel like there's much narrative focus on the morality of it, beyond fake Culkin's obsession
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>>291226780
>>or is the manga taking a stance against copyright itself
I think so, to a degree at least
"If the art speaks to the audience matters more than any legalese about if you have the 'right' to draw something
Remember this whole manga kicked off with Kevin realizing he'd stolen Billy Bat in the first place and wanting to make things right, only to be told "I don't fucking care, if what you did is stealing then I stole it too"
and its important to remember Japan's own doujin scene, with many successful mangaka starting off making money off characters they didn't have the legal right to reproduce and sell
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>>291219793
>The whole world will be thrown into the depths of hell
>Karate Chop:I've got a Golden Ticket~ I've got a Golden Twinkle in my eye~
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>>291225647
This is one of the manga's major themes and one I like the most. The idea that artistic works, like any other domain, build on each others and that should be encouraged. The best part about it is how the opposing idea holder is a Disney's analog.
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>>291225808
Soon.
Thx bud.
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>>291226837
yeah, I get that
at the same time, there need to be some rules protecting the artists, otherwise they get exploited by others and corporations like, well, Disney
not that the current rules are perfect
it's an interesting subject, but I don't feel like the manga really goes in-depth about it
or maybe I'm being dismissive because the central Culkin-Yamagata conflict is obviously evil vs good so there's not much room for nuance

I would have much preferred more discussion and viewpoints in this debate to be the ultimate theme, rather than what we got
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>>291226983
>otherwise they get exploited by others and corporations like, well, Disney
have copyright laws ever protected an artist from being exploited rather than served the corporate interests exploiting them?
I mean shit, look at The Artist Formerly Known As Prince
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>>291227095
sure they have
and do, every day
without them, the market would be 90% bootleg and royalties wouldn't exist

the corpos exploit those rules, and influence them for their benefit, but that's corpos being corpos
I do think the laws are a net positive, in some aspects if not in others
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>>291227186
the market's already 90% bootlegs and the lion's share of royalties go to the corporations and not the artists
and corporations can sue any living or dead artist into the grave but nobody is ever going to sue disney or sony records into liquidation for all the theft they've done unless its being done by an even bigger corporation
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>>291225728
poor chuck
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>>291227280
well yeah, but there's a limit on how much we can pin on the copyright law alone
for example, America operates on the absolutely retarded system of "you have to pay legal costs even if you win", which to me as an euro is utterly unfathomable
corporations as a whole get very preferential treatment and their IP hijinks are more of a symptom than the root cause
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>>291227547
frankly corporations as a whole are grand treason against all life on earth.
If your business is doomed to fail without corporatisation and putting everything in the hands of investor capital from people that can't and won't be held responsible for what they demand the business does in the name of profit, you never had a viable business strategy to begin with
Used to be a corporation at least had to consistently prove that they at least served public interest in some way to retain its rights as a corporate body but Ronnie and his successors scrapped all that in the name of nepo baby business majors getting everything they want forever
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>>291219698
sensei has a great figure btw
realistically jacked but also clearly the strongest guy in this manga
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>>291225728
an hero billy was right
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>>291227654
true
make shareholders be fiscally and criminally responsible for companies in which they have shares, and watch the stock market learn morality overnight
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>>291228230
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>>291219196
>BIlly
gawain...
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>>291228842
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>>291225968
best I can get ya, buddy.
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>>291230654
I'll gladly take it
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>>291225892

Speaking of ''fakes'', in 1917 Finnish artists Ola Fogelberg and Jalmari Finne created an anthromorphic character called Janne Ankkanen who has a striking resemblance to Donald Duck. The similarity is purely a coincidence because Donald Duck was born 17 years later.

Janne Ankkanen's stories also were about Finnish society, the 17-18 stories touching on the charged civil war era society and later stories in 40s being related to war, such as rationing and black markets.
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>>291232724
Intredasting.
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>>291225728
Chuck is so tragic.
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>>291230654
Kino
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>>291232724
>Who are you?! Donald Duck, huh! Well, since I'm older, I propose we do away with titles — my name is Janne — thank you!
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>>291227186
Nonsense, just look how much value an original signed copy of anything worthwhile gets on the collectors market.
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we back?
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>>291219813
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>>291227095
>have copyright laws ever protected an artist from being exploited rather than served the corporate interests exploiting them?
Bungie recently got the pants sued off of them when they flat out stole an artist's entire portfolio for Marathon. Copyright law DOES help smaller artists, even when it doesn't feel like it. Hell, it's arguably one of the only tools artists have against corporations.
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>>291239660
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>>289472699
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>>291239226
Don't you wanna be an hero?
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>>291240289
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>>291240791
Rate hitler's bat.
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>>291240757
>>291240791
dude is trying so hard not to laugh
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>>291240644
What the fuck kek
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>Billy Bat created Adolf Hitler and is swapping the main characters race
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>>291240791

Ominous
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>>291225808
>>291240791
>even the Bat has to repeat ideas
Also I wonder what Kevin would think if he found out he did the exact same piece as Hitler.
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>>291227095
>have copyright laws ever protected an artist from being exploited rather than served the corporate interests exploiting them?
Every single time a script has been picked up by a studio instead of just being copied 1 to 1 without giving the writers anything, which is what would happen without copyright laws. The reality of the situation is that economical means limit your ability to produce much more than anything else. If you decided tomorrow that copyright doesn't exist, then the productive power would still sit in the hands of corporations and so would the ability to market and distribute efficiently.
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>>291240644
>>291240791
I'm impressed at this comic's ability to shock me, even this late in the game.
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>>291240676
I KNEW IT
This guy was mentioned in episode 1 without anyone knowing
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>>291240791
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAT
Thanks OP
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>>291239286
>LIONette was a dog
Somehow the most shocking revelation this chapter
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>>291243961
She showed up in chapter 1, though her name never came up back then
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>>291240791
Yeah, the bat needed a better artist.
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>>291240791
holy aura
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>>291240791
Pretty ominous!
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>>291225485
I like Kurusu and Devivivivi's cartoon designs
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>>291225671
Chuck has had enough of this shit
The uprising starts now
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>>291225753
He really got Kevin with that question
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>>291240791
that god damned batto...
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>>291244421
that's not the same character, that's just how Yamagata draws females
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>>291240705
>>291240737
Is it really a good idea to give a portrait of Hitler to carry to a guy who is trying to blend in America
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>>291240644
>>291240676
Is this the manga with the highest concentration of THAT chapter?
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>>291244421
I thought her name was Cissy
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>>291240757
>>291240791
>Billy I'm watching your show, why you trying not to laugh bruh, that's disrespectful as shit.
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>>291247105
That's Devive's mom. I think there is a character like that in the fake billy cartoon as well.
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>>291219196
enough, go in the filters.
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>>291243502
I've never noticed the star of david on the gun lmao
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>>291239588
Busybodies, ugh.
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>>291239660
>Entry without warrant
Are you legally allowed to shoot them?
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>>291240264
Doesn't Japan already belong to them by this point?
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>>291240791
Another BAT!?
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>>291240791
Billy sama I kneel
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>>291240757
this made me think of Problem Sleuth or Homestuck
perspective lets you look only at one wall, and then the camera rotates and reveals a space baboon or something
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>>291240289
so was America really that scared of spies that the police would assign two full-time inspectors just to spy on somebody who might be one, based on flimsy evidence?

also if both rooms spied on each other, then how come neither noticed the other was glued to the window with binoculars? talk about blind
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>>291249354
the American regime is so scared of spies they're now spying on every single person in america through multiple means, and are striving towards the goal of spying on literally everyone in the world at all times
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>>291249561
that may be, but they didn't have the technological means back then
spying was more costly
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>>291249573
So you can imagine how scared they were that they might fail to spot a foreign spy and wouldn't even know
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>>291249598
I can't imagine that they would multiply the police force by a factor of 20 just to pursue all those shadows
which would be necessary for how this manga depicts it
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>>291249354
it wasn't common of course, but the red scare did lead to some wild goose chases.
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>>291240644
What the fuck
I thought it was going to be the fake Chuck
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>>291240676
Nvm I guess
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>>291230654
Is this OC? Crazy underrated post
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>>291240644
That fucking bat I hate
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>>291249257
I should really reread problem sleuth one of these days
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>>291250263
you shouldn't
the author is an asshole
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>>291250579
most author's are
kind of an inevitable side effect of how you need an ego big enough to think you have a story worth telling in the first place to commit to spending all that time writing and publishing it
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>>291250579
Problem Sleuth is genuinely a good read though, Hussie only underwent severe mental illness 1/4 of the way through Homestuck, you can still appreciate the property despite the author homie
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>>291250642
different kind of asshole
manipulative, backstabbing, uses emotional blackmail
the kind of person with whom you need to be very careful what documents you sign
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>>291250802
yeah I guess
too bad the author forcibly took down the best way to read his works offline
the official site was a shitwreck around a year ago, I don't know if the situation's changed
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>>291250929
I remember seeing archives out there where you could re-read it properly after Hussie's bullshit, I haven't fucking read Homestuck or had that in my brain for so long,
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>>291250929
It got relauched a while ago but I dunno if everything got fixed, there's an unofficial version that has everything intact at least.
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>>291240791
Billy you can't just casually spoil this like that.
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>>291240791
Thank you for posting.
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>>291250898
Well I'm not gonna sign any documents with the fella, thanks.
Doesn't matter if the manga is good.
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>>291250579
So what? You don't give him any money by downloading the archive and reading it through the fan made program.
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>>291248940
This is the 50s, the 4th Amendment didn't exist back then
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>>291250929
I was reading Problem Sleuth this year and it worked normally
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>>291244421
i don't think it is the same character
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>>291257281
do all female characters in the billybat comic look the same?
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bump for late readers
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>>291230654
Watch out for that Bat Billy!
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>>291258812
Only the ones we're meant to find attractive. Many such cases.
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>>291246859
If only he met Jackie. Only major character who likes Chuck Culkin's Billy Bat?
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>>291263690
cute!
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>>291265467
the term is age, newfag
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>>291225753
Ah shit, the one time Kevin's momma not raising no liar is going to backfire.
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>>291240791
yep. this is the work of the white bat
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>>291267484
who are you talking to bud?
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>>291267985
The Hitler in his heart
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>>291267721
That yakitori seller has such a punchable rat face
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>>291267985
the documentary crew
legend of Chuck Culkin begins now!
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Wait, do I have a question. Weaselman can see Billy and has talked to him but earlier Billy told Kevin that he didn't know if he could see him or not.
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>>291268085
Maybe the Billy talking to Kevin and the one talking to Kurusu are different ones
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seems like the bat got the dumper
may he rest in peace
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OP got whacked.
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>>291268148
It keeps happening
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>>291268213
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fin
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>>291268148
>>291268208
https://youtu.be/eiIeSVsMAhc
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>>291268319
thanks not-OP
and thank you OP, wherever you are
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ovaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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>>291267985
His inner merchant.
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okay, wasn't expecting that
either OP went into a time tunnel or 4chan is acting up again
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>>291268534
Maybe he's using cued posts and had another thread throw off his post cool down times? I think that's a thing I've seen happen to people dumping a manga before.
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>>291268319
>>291268502
Convergence of dumpers (real and fake).
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>>291268718
This too, is the bat's fault.
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>>291268319
>>291268502
waht the hello. which one is the white and which is the black!!!



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