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Oda puts in all the effort when writing Sanji.
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Nami by Kentaro Yabuki for the tcg.
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Ulti is shit
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>>291657082
Plotji, if you will.
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Okay but why did Oda retcon Sanji's entire personality? He's never been self-destructive in any way before this
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Is there even a single panel of Ivankov being part of Sanji's hell memories and Sanji being scared of specifically Ivankov or is Oda just casually retconning things every week now and the fanboys eat it up?

Sanji's hell memories are specifically the coomer okamas chasing him and making him run and fight 24/7, there was never even the implication that Ivankov was his main fear or even a fear at all
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>>291657202
dumb criticism
>>291657207
good criticism
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>>291657207
Bro wrote more than 4 words and really wants to be read spouting bullshit kek.
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>>291657202
He isn't more or less self-destructive than Zoro and Luffy. Actually probably way less than Luffy who Oda used to tell us shortens his life span every time he uses gear 2 and who happily smiles when he is about to die.

But it is what it is.
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>>291657207
Rubber man Luffy is actually a god with 0 forehshadowing. At this point no one is shocked by retcons.
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>>291657236
Did you ask ChatGPT to give you a generic zoomer ebonics Twitter cope reply? I don't care about your copes. All I want to know is if there is a single panel where Ivankov is a part of Sanji's hell memories. If not, it's a retcon
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>>291657207
sanji is the most complex straw hat...that's why he always exposes oda as a hack writer who has to resort to shit like that
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>>291657207
He buried it all, anon.
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>>291657082
>shittiest retcon since nika
all the effort isnt very good huh
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>>291657356
How is it worse than Nika?
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Cumswaping kisses with Perona!
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>>291657340
No he didn't, he was sperging about it all the time and we know what he meant because it's shown in the manga: >>291657207
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>>291657370
Except he did because I just proved it to you.
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>>291657207
It's called a retcon, anon.
This hack author has many retards that will always deny this sort of thing.
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>>291657207
This, didn't get what was sanji yapping about when he said "iva, the reason i'm afraid of you" like since when?
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>>291657384
The retcon itself isn't foreshadowing for the retcon. How do shiteating retards like you even live
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>>291657450
There is no retcon. You're just braindead.
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>>291657082
More like you selfinsert too much as sanji
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>>291657463
Enough about Eiichiro Oda...
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are zoroaches still crying?
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>>291657365
shittest since as in nika was the last one at least as bad
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>>291657457
Oh, there is. Sanji's hell memories were specifically about being chased by rapey troons for two years, not Ivankov, the only somewhat reasonable person on that island. The newest chapter pretends Ivankov was a focal point of those hell memories when there's not a single hint of that anywhere
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>>291657202
>>291657207
There is a reason no one knows any Japanese books, Oda is unironically a hack writer but it's only a problem when he tries to write pretentious shit he saw on Netflix.
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>>291657082
It should have been Zoro…
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>>291657641
I know a few Japanese books. I read Kawabata (it sucked) and Murakami (it sucked too)
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>>291657082
you have to be retarded or a paid shill to think the latest chapter had good writing
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bwahahahahahahah wtf is this
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>>291657207
What's even the point of Sanji saying he's afraid of Iva? Just so Oda can pretend those memories were all building toward this big payoff from the start? Why would he insult readers over something so petty?
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*inhales*
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>>291657736
ONE PIECE
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>>291657714
making sanji less homophobic. notice how he didn't insult any of the okama and wasn't disgusted by them this chapter.
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>>291657750
WILL BE ON BREAK NEXT WEEK!!
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>>291657694
God he’s so pathetic
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>>291657682
To be fair, effort and good are different things.
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>>291657835
Ivankov, after all, is not an okama and had no involvement with Sanji prior to this so it does feel a little weird
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>>291657207
His Hell Memories attack is literally about the "abject" okama chasing him. Directly conflating that with Ivankov who has no sexual interest in Sanji comes out of nowhere and is more clumsy writing, yeah.
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Sanji said this chapter that he would never beg his captain for help, but how is this different from him begging Robin to save him ?
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>>291657901
oda doesn't remember things that happened 3 months ago unless his assistants tell him about it. sanji already embraced self-worth in the chapter you're talking about. robin unlocked a strong devil form she no longer uses and bonney became female nikka but is now a useless baby worried about her belly button
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>>291657901
Probably because his inability to fight women is a matter of pride and personal values, not a matter of strength, so he's more willing to ask for help. In a vaccuum he could technically beat the shit out of all one piece women he just doesn't want to.
Strength is part of the goal and identity he strives for as a wing of Luffy though, so he refuses to be bailed out because he's physically outclassed. That's too shameful to him.
Ie it's stupid moid writing
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goodnight /opg/
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>>291657714
>Just so Oda can pretend those memories were all building toward this big payoff from the start? Why would he insult readers over something so petty?
at least so far he's honest enough to not pretend skypiea was foreshadowing for luffy's god form even though retards shill this idea
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>>291657082
>young man from a abusive family is taught how to show his appreciation and love to other people through a skill hated by his family by his adopted father figure is then advised to love himself by his old eccentric mentor who he despises
This is the closest we're getting to Oda writing a sports manga
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>>291657840
fair enough indeed
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>>291657840
It's funny if/when Killingham has ever used his dream powers to fuck up a country in the past, the average person's MMA would likely be either pirates or world nobles, likely world nobles given how normal people reacted to the Donquixote family's origin being revealed in Doffy's flashback to the more varied levels of terror people feel when pirates show up
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Oda really said "If you can't love yourself how in the hell are you gonna love anybody else can I get an amen?"
Oda watches RuPaul
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>>291658353
Kuma was a priest, but Iva is a preacher.
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>>291658353
For sure

>>291658287
For real he's too op but suspect he hasn't done that much because he really behaves like this is his second mission in the field ever.
If he was more experienced he could probably have soloed Elbaf, unironically.
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Does Kuma wear red leather thigh high heeled boots under his priest gown when he goes to Iva's parties
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>>291657082
Wasnt this dudes whole character just "I'LL NEVER HIT WAHMEN EVEN IN SELF DEFENCE I MUST RESPECT WAHMEN!!!"
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>>291658423
more like simpji
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>>291657082
>Oda puts in all the effort when writing Sanji.
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>>291658423
I would honestly be fine with this if half of his character wasn't about harassing women and being hit because lol so funny
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Lilith in the chapter so it was a good chapter.
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>>291657114
Nami...
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>>291658353
Oda googled autogynephilia and knows that trooons suffer from it
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>>291658750
This got worse after the timeskip to be fair
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>>291658750
>harassing women
The manga unironically is not for you
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>>291657082
That's because Sanji is his self-insert. Oda also smokes, used to work in a restaurant and is just as horny as he is.
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>>291658899
>can't write his own self-insert properly
>>291657202
>>291657207

crazy
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>>291658781
No pantsubro… we won
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Reminder Killingham’s mother fucked a fishman slave.
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>>291657197
Do Carrot making out with Sanji
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>>291658885
Sanji definitely not, the manga though...
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>>291658946
I kinda wonder if Killingham is so sheltered because she didn't want him to find out, maybe his house doesn't even have mirrors and he's not aware his teeth are huge.
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>>291657149
I feel like he's holding back
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>>291658781
do you think rodo saw nami's bush when he undressed her and had to shave it since otherwise it'd peek in the outfit he had made for her
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>>291657202
Sanji gave up his dream to repay his "debt" to Zeff, even though Zeff saved him precisely because they shared the same dream and Zeff wanted him to continue his search for the All Blue. I think what Ivankov says about not being able to love anyone if you don't love yourself fits quite well with this.
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>>291658992
Is Shamrock also popular with women from the lower world?
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Sanji’s cock and balls are mine and mine alone.
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Sending a Friday donut to all the /opg/gods.
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>>291657197
Do Carrot sex with Usopp and Luffy jerking
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>>291659030
Good theory that Killingham is half-fishman. Mothers keep their half-breed children out of maternal love.
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>>291659089
Purrin...
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>>291658134
no dude you just don't get it, there were drums playing which means it's totally different from all the other times luffy was dancing and laughing which definitely makes it a foreshadowing, you just gotta connect the dots bro, hmmmm I'm coonnectiiiiiiing
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>>291659089
Tibany… He said NO.
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>>291658779
Lilith boxing ryona...
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>>291657207
>Is there even a single panel of Ivankov being part of Sanji's hell memories and Sanji being scared of specifically Ivankov
Nope.
>or is Oda just casually retconning things
Yes. Oda needed a reason for Sanji to suddenly recall huge chunks of his conversations with Ivankov and thought the repressed memories would be really clever.
>and the fanboys eat it up?
Worse, they genuinely believe Oda planned all this shit years in advance, if not from day one. Not so much here on /a/ luckily but everywhere else.
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>>291659084
I don't think they know he exists but he can probably charm his way in any marine base or backwater village he cares to act normal around.
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>>291659209
don't forget the funny stereotypical indian dance.
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>>291659094
I’ll take a maple bar
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>>291657082
ZoLo bross…
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>>291659280
Pisstards are so sad
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>>291657082
it's one of the worst chapters since Wano
>dude, what if...you love yourself?
>NOOO, DON'T REMIND ME!
>But you're right, I love myself now, SUPREME HAKI ACTIVATED
Ivankov was somehow so bad, he became Sanjis nightmare, but then he got over it in just 5 pages.
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>>291659094
I'll have a Portgas D Glaze
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>>291657736
>>291657750
>>291657771
KISAMA...!!!
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>>291659382
Dude didn't even read the chapter
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I miss Bonney
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>>291659382
nah, it's not even remotely close to how bad Wano was
>dude I kidnap other people's wives just like celestial dragons do, except I also allow them to leave any time they want because I'm super duper magnanimous and kind, but my dick is so huge and charismatic that they ended up falling in love with me for real
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>>291659452
I did, everything I said was straight from the chapter except for "HAKI ACTIVATED" part, which it obviously will lead to in the first few pages of the next chapter, considering, you know, EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS STORY ARC IS ABOUT SANJI LEARNING SUPREME HAKI
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>>291659530
You don’t need to lie, we accept you just the same.
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>>291659502
I miss her fat ass
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From Sanji being self-destructive despite never showing it more than any other character to Ivankov somehow being his biggest fear for some gay "you understand me" shit. Oda just makes shit up with zero setup after 30 years of writing. Just hopoing the final fights happen soon and we can start detoxing from this shit.

Imagine how many hours you must've wasted watching, reading and thinking about this dumb series by now just for Oda to shit and piss all over it these days.
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>>291659084
As popular as a slave owner can be.
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>>291659571
>Imagine how many hours you must've wasted watching, reading and thinking about this dumb series
probably more than oda desu
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THIS is what awakening haki should feel like. If haki is about how the resolve of a king, it should be awoken through great moments of emotional triumph. Not just..getting stronger off-screen, like Zoro.
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He can rock my sham if you pick up what I'm putting down
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>>291659571
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>>291659563
then tell me, mr "I have read this chapter and you're obviously wrong", what did I say that wasn't in the chapter?
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>>291659595
Zoro always been a king from the beginning
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>>291659607
Same I'm lucky they're fictional because I would be such a whore if they were real people
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Just make him a cyborg and be done with it. Who cares if theres two cyborg onboard the sunny. Oda's to scared to break the mold of the unique mc group, its literally nothingburger
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>>291659262
lilith is for love not ryona
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killingham joining strawhat when? we need a CD in the crew
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>>291659871
vivi, or nami if you believe the headcanons
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>>291659871
What's his role on the ship? And no, being a CD isn't a role.
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>>291659780

Is Killingham more retarded than Sommers?

>He wears a helmet because he's afraid of rain.
>He doesn't know what lower world people/slaves eat.
>He doesn't know who Ivankov is.
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>>291659968

A second pet besides Chopper. He is a horse
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>>291659968

Killingham will be a hostage like Caesar. He will learn how people live in the lower world.
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Is chopper the only non nepo baby left in the group? Those with dubious background like nami and franky can just be retconned at the drop of the hat like sanji pukesmoke anyway. I think chopper's background is pretty solid and tamper proof
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>>291660030
Queen was Franky's dad, read the SBS
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>>291659610
Yeah Sanji is literally the least suicidal one. He's just pessimistic which can be seen as a cope for ending up in these shitty situations.

Oda is 100% a confirmed hack.
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>>291659409
>Portgas D Glaze
I kekked.
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>>291660030
Somehow the only reindeer with a blue nose, and you think he won't be revealed to be part of some lineage bullshittery? Please.
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>>291660083
>>291657202
Lol
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>>291659983
Sommers is 500 years old, I doubt he was any different when he was 20. CDs just live in a bubble, it's very unlikely Killingham is an exception.
What's fascinating is that he is curious though. He wants to know these things, unironically. Most CDs don't or deem them below them. Also when he saw Elbaf he reacted exactly like the SH did, like a kid at the amusement park.
Redemption arc soon
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>>291659968
Choreboy
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>>291660184
>Sommers is 500 years old
source: my fat bbc ravished ass
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>>291660184
Sommers clearly aged in the last 40 or so years since God Valley
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>>291660221
>>291660241
I meant to be hyperbolic not factual kek sorry. Point is: he's much older.
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>>291660292
considering we're talking about a group of characters where some of them are indeed confirmed to be several hundred years old, it's not a good idea to be hyperbolic about age
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I thought this was gonna be Sanji accepting his Germa, throwing away his cigarettes. going into trauma about his mother and putting it on women... instead it's him throwing himself into battle because he doesn't love himself.

This isn't kingly at all. What was the point of the Queen fight with his body?
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>>291660184
Then he would have recognized Zoro as Ryuma
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>>291660348
Ryumor
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>>291660348
Thanks for the laugh anon I needed it
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Why didn't the giants just piss on the god knights? By briefly drowning them in piss, it nullifies their devil fruit powers as well as incapacitating them
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>>291659570
Everyone does
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>>291660399
Gunko uses her meme arrows to redirect the piss back into each giant's penis.
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>>291660428
Anon that's just your fetish!
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>>291660360
>>291660361
Sword God Ryuma > Imu, a swordsman
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>>291660132
Luffy (canonical retard) sperging doesn't mean Sanji is self-destructive. This wasn't even a consideration back then, Luffy isn't trying to talk him out of suicidal ideation, he's simply telling him that there must be a better plan and Sanji is more than curious to know what plan this could be, not knowing that Luffy is strong enough to defeat Krieg
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>>291660473
Vista = Mihawk = Ryumor
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>>291660464
Slander and libel.
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>>291659571
If anyone still sees One Piece as more than just a guilty pleasure after Oda gave his OK to Netflix, they are likely retarded.
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>>291660558
>shanks can't resist vin diesel with trashy looking green hair dye
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>>291660558
Why does Netflix make you feel insecure, little guy?
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>>291660605
>Man, I hate someone throwing shit at me
>"Why does shit make you feel insecure little guy?"
you're so full of shit
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>>291660671
But nobody's throwing shit at you, you're diving into someone else's outhouse after paying them for the right to do so.
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>>291660671
Why does shit make you feel insecure?
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>>291660558
I'm not insecure or embarassed enough for that
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This chapter reminded me of this. I liked the last chapters despite the Holy Jobbers.
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>>291659089
>Sanji’s cock and balls are mine and mine alone.
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pov: me about to die
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>>291659089
Saint Killingham... He's not worth it you should move on
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>>291660510
Yeah I agree the fact that Oda is keeping Zoro closer to Sanji than Luffy proves swordsmen aren’t that Impressive overall, he’ll cap at Admiral level like Rayleigh
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>>291657149
where did she get all that money from?
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>>291661100
me
i'm poor now
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>>291661123
Was it worth it tho?
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>>291660030
I dunno, the whole thing about Chopper reverting domi reversis made it shaky
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>>291661216
yes
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Why are people so braindead? Why do they think every person only has one singular fear. Sanji can be afraid both of Okama and Ivankov, with Ivankov being his biggest fear. Sanji himself thought Judge or Germa would be his fear and was clueless.
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>>291657202
I'm always rewatching, back at Enies Lobby we already see Oda writing Sanji as refusing to fight Kalifa, he just took her attacks and barely even blocked her, Nami gives him shit for trying to be a martyr instead of locking in
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>>291660558
Yep, season 2 was the worst thing I ever watched in my life. Somehow cringier, less clever, worse cinematography, set design and costumes than Lazy Town
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>>291657082
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Things are so bad that I wouldn’t be surprised if there were like four people here.
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>>291661415
That's just Sanji not wanting to fight women
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>>291657694
yeah i saw sabo too lmao
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bro the zoromelty is beyond pathetic all over the place not even only here
they are being clowned hard and cannot stop posting about sanji lmaooo
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>>291661309
Give up Odadrone
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>>291661534
Zoro’s more popular after all, they’ve got a superiority complex
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>>291657368
Hot, but whose cum?
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>Sanji fears Okama
>Ivankov is the King of Okama
>"Reee why is Sanji afraid of Ivankov, retcon!"
Negative IQ moment
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>>291661687
>Sanji fears Okama
he doesn't, he fears okama being obsessed with him and chasing him
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Seeing pisstards stumble over Oda’s garbage writing brings me so much joy.
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>>291661455
Nami's point was that even if he doesn't want to hit a woman, he could dodge until she tires herself out or just get away from her.
Just letting himself get beaten up when he's one of the top fighters and they're trying to rescue Robin is being a (retarded) martyr
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>>291661687
Your cope doesn't even make sense because this chapter states the only reason he's afraid of Iva is because he understands him. Obviously not the reason why he hates okamas so Oda all of a sudden conflating the two is stupid and a cheap way to set up the convo with Iva.

Your comic is flawed.
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>>291657568
Yeah, because the memory of Ivankov was buried.
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>>291661901
cope of the year award contender
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is there any hope for him? Elbaf was his dream after all...
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>>291661890
>Nami's point was that even if he doesn't want to hit a woman, he could dodge
What does she actually say though?
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>>291661955
You indeed do deserve such an award, glad you noticed.
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>>291658781
Nami would literally never say that.
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>>291661966
his chance was after timeskip but oda decided he should be forever weak and pathetic shortly after

at least 20 years ago he was funny and had cool fights and wit
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>>291658781
>Kaya rejects several handsome and/or rich people and preserved her virginity for Usopp
>Usopp announces he's coming back home
>"I can't wait to meet Usopp-san again! Merry, let us prepare a feast to celebrate him becoming a great warrior!"
>*blush* "A-and also... make up my bed, so that I can... spend the night with him"
>The day of Usopp's arrival
>Kaya wearing her best dress and hired the best stylists and salons to make herself as beautiful as possible
>Sunny arrives
>Usopp's head peeks out, "Hey Kaya! Long time no see!"
>"USOPP-SAN <3 Long time no se-"
>Usopp walks out linking arms with Nami
>"So how are you? Have you become a doctor yet?"
>"Y-yes, I have. Usopp-san... who's that girl?"
>"Ah, she's Nami. Did you forgot? She also helped us fight off Kuro back then"
>"A-ah r-right I remember now. Umm... you two seems pretty close aren't you?"
>"Yeah, after Luffy became pirate king, we decided to get married"
>"M-M-M-M-M-MARRIED?"
>"That's right Kaya, she's gonna live together with me here from now on so you two get along ok?"
>"a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-"
>"Hahaha you're speechless huh? Well I want to introduce her to the kids too so we'll talk later ok?"
>"USOPP-SAN!"
>"Y-YES!?"
>"Actually I..."
>"What is it Kaya?"
>"Actually... I've prepared a feast to celebrate your journey, be sure to come by later with your w-w-wife ok? We'll celebrate your w-w-wedding too while we're at it"
>"Really? Thanks a lot Kaya, you're my BEST FRIEND!"
>stab sfx
>*smiles* "Thanks Usopp, and... congratulations on your wedding..."
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>>291662008
Alabasta was so good man
I should've dropped the series after Marineford, what a waste of time
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>>291661966
No. Theres no hope for this manga either.
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>>291661986
there is no reason for not at least giving us a hint for what sanji is really scared of isn't the ultra strong gay rape army that clearly causes him extreme distress just thinking about (while thinking about ivankov doesn't), but actually ivankov........telling him to dodge attacks. and elbaf wasn't even planned until very recently

you are 100% in copesville
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shitposters are going fucking nuts for this chapter, huh? good character writing really mindbreaks them like nothing else
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Great chapter. Glad we got more Ivankov. How long before CHADji kills Kekingham?
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>>291662175
Good writing?
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>>291662109
It doesn't matter anyways, Sanji acting like his benefactors would have raped him or traumatized him because they wanted to put a dress on him was always shit writing.
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>>291662109
Its actually both of those. Hes afraid of the strong gay rape army AND the trvth nvke that Ivankov dropped at him about himself, those are two different things. Latter is not hinted at due to it being a kind of reveal since Oda likes his reveals. Its also not about Ivankov literally, its what he represents to sanji (the trvth nvke).
It has been hinted at though since Sanji is always doing stupid shit to himself in every arc hes in. WCI is the main example of that.
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You guys think we'll get a huge double spread of Zoro and Sanji killing Sommers and Killingham at the same time? Would be pretty fucking dope if we did.
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>>291662175
Unfortunately, the Zoro bros have nothing to talk about their character.
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>>291662175
It’s just zorotards seething as usual
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>>291662192
killingham is a bro , i don't think he is going to kill him but maybe inu does after both fail
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>>291662217
Oh thats actually pretty dope, i hope that happens
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>>291662175
>wow that sanji chapter was good
>guess i'll open up opg
>every post is just picrel
Every. Single. Time.
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>>291662192
>>291662233
Anyone who believes Killingham is dying is a complete retard, sorry to say.
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Zorojihadists must be stopped
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>>291662264
truly the cancer of this fandom
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Admirals have been powercrept.
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Which did you prefer? Zoro or Sanji's chapter? Probably gearing slightly more towards Sanji's. Both were very good. Also, anyone else think the art quality has improved this chapter?
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>>291662200
>since Oda likes his reveals
no actually what he likes way more than reveals is to tease reveals forever

still in copesville
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>>291657082
>Be Sanji
>Born to be a dodge tank
>Even naturally specialise in observation haki
>Get your self-wort so crippled, you rather face tank
>Everyone tells you to stop doing that, but your skull's too damn thick to get it
>Even after two years on love-yourself-island, you still face tank
>Genes unlock even better abilities
>Think "great, now I'm even better at face tanking"
>Need an immortal enemy to finally switch to dodge tanking
He's somehow both among the smartest and dumbest strawhats, bravo.
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>>291661966
If we are very lucky. Imu kills him.
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>>291662318
>no counter-argument
gg easy
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>>291662307
I don't think either of them could playfully push back Queen and King at the same time like admiral level Marco yet
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>>291662003
But she thinks it.
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>>291662347
your argument is that oda never teased it because he likes surprises and my counter-argument is that he likes to tease shit just as much (if not way more, sadly). it's a badly written conflict and chapter. move on
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>>291662371
Well i did say it was hinted at, as in teased way before, so you did not have a counter-argument.
>It has been hinted at though since Sanji is always doing stupid shit to himself in every arc hes in. WCI is the main example of that.
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>>291662366
I think Nami prefers fishman cock
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>>291662397
that's a whole different topic. not surprised you are a muslim, they are trained in elite level coping with their goofy ass religion
>WCI is the main example of that.
also that's a relatively recent arc and shit foreshadowing anyway (and still not even very good foreshadowing for this current conflict since he just wanted to protect his friends)
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>>291662449
Nope, its the very same topic.
>also that's a relatively recent arc
Still a good example of this topic.
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>>291662019
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>>291657197
>AMA
When are you going to stop shitting up the thread with AI slop of an unattractive and annoying minor character?
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>>291662473
no, whether sanji is self-destructive and whether ivankov was always meant to be his biggest fear are two different topics, even if oda mashes them into the same stupid plot point now

the former was already discussed to death consensus being that he was never potrayed as more self-destructive than the other straw hats like luffy who supposedly shortens his life every time he uses gears or let alone fucking whitebeard
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>>291662347
Kek Luffy hit Kaido with the Gomu Gomu no HiatusxHiatus
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One Piece is the greatest shonen of all time.
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>>291662590
Oh, Ivankov only represents his biggest fear, Ivankov is not literally his biggest fear. I explained that here:
>Hes afraid of the strong gay rape army AND the trvth nvke that Ivankov dropped at him about himself, those are two different things. Its also not about Ivankov literally, its what he represents to sanji (the trvth nvke he dropped).
Still no real counter-argument from you.
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>>291662347
he's right though, One Piece now definitely prioritizes hyping up mystery boxes rather than having actual payoffs
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>>291662175
>Zoro gets an asspull power up “Zoro-chan some people are just BVILT with Big CoC”
>/opg/ sleeps
>Sanji gets a powerup reflecting him overcoming his lack of self-worth that has been talked about for decades
>/opg/ has one or two Zorarabs/fightfreaks spamming doomposts
I also nooooticed.
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do you think oda will actuall have zoro and sanji kill sommers and killingham, or will they get some bullshit teleport out of elbaf at the same time imu's time expires
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>>291662674
I think actual death will be what gives Luffy and Loki the advantage over Imu. Remember when Loki killed Harald? Imu almost started crying and he was miles from them.
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>>291662347
you're right, One Piece definitely prioritizes having actual payoffs rather than hyping up mystery boxes
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>>291662672
>>291662674
>11:47:12
Double rainbows… all the way across the sky!!
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Go fuck yourselves. All of you.
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>>291662713
We're all ''me'', after all.
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>>291662672
Kek
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>>291662763
A Classic
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>>291662713
:(
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>>291662641
the point is there is no reason for not at least giving us a hint for what sanji fears most not being the ultra strong gay rape army that clearly causes him extreme distress just thinking about (while thinking about ivankov doesn't), but actually ivankov........knowing some shit about him and telling him to dodge attacks

stop going in circles like a low iq child
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>>291662701
>can't even inverse post right
what a jeet
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>Go fuck yourselves. All of you.
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>>291662854
Thats been hinted though, i explained it here.
>Hes afraid of the strong gay rape army AND the trvth nvke that Ivankov dropped at him about himself, those are two different things. Latter is not hinted at due to it being a kind of reveal since Oda likes his reveals. Its also not about Ivankov literally, its what he represents to sanji (the trvth nvke).
>It has been hinted at though since Sanji is always doing stupid shit to himself in every arc hes in. WCI is the main example of that.

stop going in circles like a low iq child, still no counter-argument from you.
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>Omen literally did nothing for Sommers

Why was he so cock sure of himself?
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>>291662895
>Thats been hinted though
>Latter is not hinted at
are you schizophrenic?
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>>291662929
Nope.
>It has been hinted at though since Sanji is always doing stupid shit to himself in every arc hes in. WCI is the main example of that.
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>>291662950
No one cares how kids rank animu characters. Stop spamming this, pedophile
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>>291662672
Zorohomos are fucking pathetic kene
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Sanji is Oda’s biggest mistake even Gear 5 was better
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>>291662984
Did somebody say pedophile?
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>>291662944
You will do nothing obsessed brimstone faggot
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>lanjifag seething his bots failed
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>>291663019
Sanji’s wife is so cute
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>>291662989
for real
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>>291662950
It’s crazy how popular Zoro is compared to tranji kek explains why they’re so mad
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Guys i want to say that us zorochads are proud trans sis
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>>291662989
Yeah but its understandable when you consider stuff like picrel
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>>291658860
actually the average anon in 4chan has very deep seated insecurities and self hatred from being a social outcast so they lash out at any amount of self love or acceptance because it threatens to shatter the value system that they use to justify their unhealthy habits
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>>291663131
they aren't gonna like this one boss
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>>291663127
Ohnonono do zolosissies really ?
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>>291662968
>Nope.
then maybe stop saying directly contradicting things in the same post or people may think you are.
>It has been hinted at though since Sanji is always doing stupid shit to himself in every arc hes in.
so are a lot of characters and this got nothing to do with ivankov and according to cultists like you he always had these traits and you have to be actually retarded to believe any of this stuff was already planned in east blue

post an older panel of ivankov being part of sanji's hell memories or stfu. no one cares about your cope
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There is literally nothing in the chapter about him learning CoC, just that he should dodge more. Kind of curious why he didn't already since he's supposed to be more in tune with CoO, and he's meant to be the fastest on the crew.
Katakuri already showed how insane it can be when used with an ability.
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>>291663131
I resemble that remark
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>>291663176
Yeah you still couldn't bring yourself to write out a counter-argument. You can read my earlier posts, they explained this to you already multiple times. I accept your concussion.
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>>291661426
>cringier, less clever, worse cinematography, set design and costumes than Lazy Town
so it perfectly adapts the tone and style of one piece? i don't get it, it just sounds like its showing exactly what the manga delivers (ugly characters in stupid situations with bad fight choreography and humor that isn't funny)
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Seems someone has become upset.
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>>291663201
real life footage of zolofags btw
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>>291663127
Clearly Zoro needs Carrot as a training partner.
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>>291663209
i accept your concession that's poorly disguised as a snarky retort and your inability to produce a single older panel showing ivankov is part of sanji's hell memories, the only thing that could prove this chapter isn't a retcon
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>>291660030
Jimbo is the only non neposhit left, accept it anon.
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>>291663388
>still no counter-argument whatsoever
>only copies my post
Based retard, never change
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>>291662622
-at being overrated!
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>>291663424
>cope
>no panel
you can have the last word since you seem to need it and i don't care about your cope words, i care about panels
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>>291663457
Thanks kind stranger! I did explain that point earlier which you couldn't counter, you can check it again ;)
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>>291663249
Imagine taking anything seriously lmao
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>>291663637
Dyke Piece
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>>291661982
another coper btw. notice how he never answered this question with what's actually in the manga. probably the muslim again
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>>291657082
Oda is a coward for not having dream Iva injects hormones into Sanji and makes him a girl.
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>>291663678
Zolotrannies wet dream
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Zorobros are victims I stand up for you guys!
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>>291663059
I want to have sex with Sanji's wife
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>>291663841
Zolo....
It’s impossible and you know that...
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>>291663904
What do you mean, that's obviously Blackbeard
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I read the entirety of one piece in the last few months and I gotta say the nika shit is the worst plot twist I’ve ever seen
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>>291663996
What, you don't like mythical zoans and changing Luffy from an ordinary paramecia?
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>>291663841
Sanji is single
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>>291663904
True his tiny nip dick is too small even for Bonney
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>>291664028
I do like mythical zoans and I do buy that luffy had a zona fruit since he doesn’t actually have the same visual language as the other paramecias. It’s the fact it’s le epic god fruit that makes it gay as shit, it also seems like his brain gets hijacked by a different character in gear 5 that makes it even worse
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>>291663127
>Zoro is below Carrot, who was getting candy-diffed by Chadroschadros
Grim.
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>No one cares how kids rank animu characters. Stop spamming this, pedophile
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>>291663127
Basically Carrot can never join she’s too strong for the wings
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>>291664112
Where is Tama ?
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Reminder that the last time we saw Luffy he was canonically becoming aware of what the Nika fruit was doing to him, and that he will come back just like OUR HERO SANJINO casting aside his inner demons with full mastery over his fruit, going Hybrid Zoan for the first time and he and Hybrid Form Loki will send a sexy ass punch sending Imu flying back to MG like the little brown bitch he is mirroring the panel of Garp and Roger hitting Rocks together.
And you WILL clap, and the JKK tranny will shit up the thread claiming it’s stolen from some inferior manga that nobody has read or remembers.
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>>291664112
Why is Carrot underneath Usopp’s ass here? Was he using her as a seat cushion or something..? Very disrespectful for a minor Strawhat ally to be treated this way, even Gaimon is being held by Luffy.



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