Total Okarun LoveFuck hase, and not literally
Cuck NTR
Hase will be redeemed and end up with Aira.
>>292163375Truth nuke.
Tatsu's drama fetish is so fucking annoying
>>292163375The only redemption for him is death
>”billions must die”: the chapter
If it's not revealed that Okaruns mom became Hase stepmom, it's hack writing.
>>292163383Ikr?
>>292163375Momo x OkarunJiji x SeikoAira x HaseKinta x VamolaZuma x AdachiThose are your endgame couples.
Don't better yourself unless a pretty girl talks to you.If a pretty girl doesn't talk to you, kill everything and everyone.You are worthless until a pretty girl acknowledges your existence. Until, then you deserve everything bad that has happened to you.
>>292163299Okarun is such a fucking annoying pussyJiji should have been the MC
>Until, then you deserve everything bad that has happened to you.that is quite literally what the subhumans in this threads are saying without the girl part, not the manga
>>292163428you figured out life
>>292163427The first one is definitely wrong.
>whore wife>gay sonOkarun's dad is the real victim
>>292163488Bullied by suits.
Me on the left taking the photo
>>292163535are the rumors true?
>>292163558Yes, Okarun is gay.
This backstory was wayyy too over the top for my tastes, with this volume of bullying and abuse he should be far more damaged than just an awkward nerd.And I don't really like the "girl will fix your life" message either, unironically Mob had a far healthier growth arc.
>>292163428How is it going for you
>>292163616Mob and his author are worse than anything in this story.
>>292163535They should have raped Okarun if they were already gonna do this gay shit
>>292163616>"girl will fix your life"Momo is an alien which Okarun was calling out for to come and save him.
>>292163654We need better bullies to bully them for being gay.
>>292163535Is this something that actually happens in asian high schools in real life? I've seen this as a plot point in several korean and japanese shows. Is bullying really this bad in Asian schools?>Mushoku Tensei. Pre-reincarnation Rudeus gets abused, tied up, and photos of his junk sent around the internet. >Future Diary. The yandere Yuno Gasai alters the timeline so that another student is abused like this. >All Of Are Dead. The school bully rips a girls top off and takes photos of her to blackmail her into sleeping with him. >Lookism. An incident just like this is what motivates the main character into signing up for the artificial body program.
>>292163701Why would it be bad, those losers deserved it.
>>292163402This reminds me of that Columbine Gohan meme.
>>292163661It wouldn't surprise me if we get a reveal that Momo has some alien blood in her. Thus making it so ken actually does get that hot alien princess waifu he's dreamed about. Just not in the way he expected.
>>292163780>implying he has a shot with her
why just don't beat up the bullies, that's what I did back in highschool and it worked pretty welljust go for the shithead leader and smash his head to the table
bunch of thirdies and white trash shitting up the thread
>>292163616It’s why this backstory sucks. It’s also a rehash of Zuma being possessed by the Fairy Tale Card.
>>292163883>I can't afford foodHaha loser.
>>292163616You underestimate how much a kid is willing to bottle shit up to not be a bigger bother to others, especially in Nipland.>"girl will fix your life"Obviously not or he wouldn't be having this outburst.
>>292163883Where?
>>292163299Now that he is turbo cucked will he actually go full school shooter incel
>>292163902so Zuma became a delinquent but Okarun didn't and just kept to himstlf? That tells ya something
>Takakura Sr. flies into an alcohol induced rage after his baby momma left him>Takakura Jr. flies into a demon induced rage after his amnesiac crush gets groped by his bully
The weak should fear the strong.
>>292163558Fraid so. That sweltering summer of 2022 okarun was raped
>>292163957It isnt even his kid though. He was a cuck and the guy his partner left him for was the one who knocked her up
>>292163967yeah, Hase should be very afraid rn
>>292163722>Esto es el fin, Kami High School.
>>292164043Gfarhlk narthflak
>>292163535With this backstory Okarun would have murdered them the first chance he gets after getting granny powers
>>292164156He will forgive them and become friends.
>>292163402i dont remember his whore of a mum
>>292163488he'll repeat the cycle
>>292163632No pretty girl yet. You can connect the dots on that.
What killed the hype?
>originally he was an invisible npc that nobody knew existed which is why he wanted friends so bad, now he’s a bully victim out of a Stephen King novelRetconRetRetcon
>>292163488Huh? The mom did nothing wrong. She left a loser who was in debt and she even gave Okarun the chance to join her and he rejected it.
>>292164173>He will forgiveHow does a kid that was bullied so much even understand the concept of forgiveness?
tourist here but wtf why all i see coming from this recently is torture cuck porn
>>292163535Do Japs really do this? Make a same sex individual take all their clothes off? I've seen this plenty of times, and I gotta wonder.This is the most stupid shit."Hey bro, take your clothes off, let me take pictures and post it so I can whack off to it later, let me put this bat up your ass too lol"
>>292164732The fans love it
>>292163535This is one of those things where I do believe some guys would do this, but also post bullying clarity would kick in and they'd realize they could never post the pictures or brag they did it without everyone calling them huge faggots.It's why the girl version of this usually involves drugs and then leaving her somewhere where she gets raped.
>>292163299>your prayers were receivedI wasn't expecting 30 pages of buildup for the big reveal to be that Ayase is an alien.
So did Okarun's parents know about the real Ken Takakura and named Okarun after him or was it truly just a happy coincidence?
>>292164806It'd be crazy if his father was actually Ken Takakura and Okkarun is a Jr.
>>292164720No woman is at fault for leaving a man with a tiny dick or bank account. Both are choices he made
>>292164732Because it's relatable.
>>292164826What about her child? She didn't even fight for him.
>>292164674Yes
>>292163701In general I think Asia is just fucking crazy when it comes to bullying, in South Korea it got so bad it's now required for university/colleges to consider past bullying behavior in potential admission.
>>292165014That's not even a real country, we are trying to have a civilized discussion here.
What the hell did I just read? All those daily severe beatings and not once those glasses suffered any form of damage? Not even a scratch? Must be a false memory and the bullying was science fiction.
>>292165136Imagine if none of this is actually real and it's all just a fabrication caused by the oni shit the villains gave him.
>>292165136Did u rike?
>>292165136The Bloodsucker Oni is giving him psychosis.
>>292165238None of it was real, he wakes up and decides to go with his mom, the end. The next chapter will be the last chapter.
>>292165136Nanoskins, son.
>>292165136>What the hell did I just read?Kouki’s fan-fiction
We need another rape chapter
>>292164722After all these years, I still wish to go back in time and beat up my bullies even if I never had this much humiliation.
>>292164800Momotaro theory confirmed?
>>292164800>an oni will be quelled by Momo(tarou (female) )KINOOOOOOOOO
>>292165407Lin…
>>292164674No Kinta
>>292165407This
>>292163807Yeah dude, just go up to the biggest guy in prison and punch him in the jaw! What a retard.
>>292165581They never should have let you out.
>>292163299Worse MC than Gohan and Deku.
>>292163409Tatsu will make Hase sleep with MOMkarun instead.
incels are...right?
>>292165744Right about what?
>>292165779everything
>>292165818Such as?
>>292165818Yes
>>292163299Okarun acts too normal for a backstory like that
so now that it's confirmed that life is pointless without a gf and billions must die, where does the story go from here
>>292165407What do you think this is implying? >>292163535
>>292165994Next the billions die.
>>292165994More ntr
>>292165994Where it always goes - back to square one.
>>292165407Whoremo...
>>292165989I believe it happened but was greatly exaggerated. The bullies probably ganged up on him like twice at most and he acts like it was everyday of his life.
>>292165994Okarun getting cucked by his dad.
>>292165994I feel like Tatsu is slowly starting to wrap things up. We have Pinkwhore getting rejected and completely btfod, Okarun's backstory, Turbo Granny making her long-awaited return, teasing Momo's alien theories and pretty much all the characters are gathered in the same place. It really feels like Tatsu is setting the stage for something big to happen.
>>292165989The average person is good at hiding their dirty laundry, especially when pressured by society.
>>292163535Hahahahahahaahhq
>>292163535Does Okarun go to school at Abu Ghraib prison?
I wonder if Turbo Baba could somehow let Momo see Okarun's memories. That could be one way to help amnesiac Momo remember him and all the time they've spent together. Imagine her getting to relive their experiences from Okarun's perspective and slowly remembering just how much he means to her. It could make for a really emotional moment
>>292166235Perfect.
The moral is that a simple act of kindness can change someone's life, potentially even save it. If you're reading into it any more than that, you are extremely stupid and/or acting in bad faith.
>>292165994Jiji power fantasy
>>292166411Wrong
>>292166433I accept your concession.
>>292166445I accept your concession.
>>292165994Kinta mecha arc with Vamola in space
I do not accept your confession.
I accept your confection, the frosting is a nice touch.
>>292163535JUST
>>292163701A quick Google found results for Canadian schools and UK ones
>>292166802Now you are just making up new words.
>>292163535>>292163701Why dont Japs fight back?I never understood that while reading manga
>>292166946The last time they fought backed, they got A-bombed.
>>292163701I don't know about now, but when I was in school in semi-rural America if someone pulled that kind of shit the ones who did it would be labeled fags and psychos and they'd never socially recover, law enforcement would be involved, and there's a decent chance they'd get their shit knocked in for it by unrelated parties because of how fucked a thing it is to do.
>>292165581A prison it's not a school, retard. As I said, it worked pretty well for me.
>>292167027one of the odd quirks of conformist society is that the victim subconciously gets blamed more because they're the one that's standing out.
Tatsu's good at these tragic flashbacks but I do have to criticize that the main story feels WAY less fucked than the character flashbacks. Compare the shit that happens in this flashback, the Vamola flashback, and the Acro-Silky flashback to the current events in the story. Nothing that happens in the present time in Dandadan has the same bite and it only makes me wish Tatsu was a little more willing to have this kind of bad shit happen to the characters after their introduction is done.
>>292167435>not making them the victims firstSkill issue.
>>292167530Very funny.
>>292163299I HATED this chapter
>>292163299I NEUTRAL this chapter
>>292167530This flashback felt extremely forced, especially after using Okarun as a constant punching bag since the amnesia arc began.
Doing an amnesia arc was such a fucking mistake
Does anyone in this shitpile manga NOT have a tragic backstory?
>>292167783I felt the opposite, feel like the entire arc's point was to make okarun reveal his power level, which he was doing a damn good job of hiding
>>292163375Hase will be sissified and end up in a space brothel
>>292163924>>292163616>HURR DURR WOMEN WON'T SAVE YOU WORK ON YOURSELFI'm sick of seeing these stupid, reddit tier comments over and over and over. First off, as everyone has been pointing out, it wasn't love that saved him, it was friendship. Secondly, YES, romantic love is a literal foundation of life and one of the most important things ever. God literally created women so man wouldn't be alone. This edgy, postmodern garbage about how dating is a garnish just isn't in line with reality.
>>292167984Kinta and Momo’s two friends.
>OH LOOK AT POOR OKARUN HOW MUCH HE SUFFERED HE DESERVES A PUSSY OUT OF NOWHERE FOR ENDURING IT Pathetic
who lostwho won
>>292167984Hase.His life was great.Then comes a faggot nerd and ruins itOn top of that the nerd takes the chick everyone was hoping to turn into fuckmeat
>>292164824Im like 80% sure that takakura sr looks like ken the actor
>>292168083this but unironicallygood pussy can heal anyone
>>292165848That you shat yourself in last 5 years
>>292168148Okarun deserves a Makima that fucks him upToo bad Tatsu cant write like Fujimbo part 1
>>292168097Hase will have a tragic frontstory and will become the fuckmeat
>>292168056>God literally created women so man wouldn't be alone>
>>292168056I didn't say that at all. My point was that Okarun's inner turmoil didn't miraculously disappear after he met Momo.
>>292163299The backstory makes sense but at the same time Okarun never seemed to have even the slightest desire of revenge on anyone, he was too busy thinking about Momo's Momos.It's probably some copout like the Oni form coupled with potential NTR making him snap.
>>292168095dandachads wonshitposters lost bigly
>>292168345Because Momo literally fixed him
>she leaves>manga goes to shit>she comes back>manga becomes good again DDD is really just Turbo Baba's manga
>>292168236bars
>the fans wanted to see more wholesome moments with Okarun and his dad>Tatsu makes him an angry violent depressed alcoholic
>>292168345Anon you're forgetting the fact that he's even more frustrated with this amnesia arc than the readers are.
>>292164244I would chud out hard as fuck if I got bullied like that
>>292164682I know nobody in Dandadan threads reads the manga but he was about to get brained by a magnet wrapped in paper in Chapter 1 and didn't react as if such bullying was an unusual occurrence at all
>>292168739He would’ve tanked it.
>>292168472Why is he an egg?
>>292163299Feels like the author is running on fumes after giving better backstories to the side cast.
>>292168844Because his brain is fried, scrambled, poached, hard-boiled.
>>292168056Dumbest post in this thread.
>>292168844>uncooked eggsDisgusting.
>>292168533Being a cannibal doesn't seem like an appropriate reaction here.
Who was magazine? I refuse to believe this isn't important.
>>292164720>>292164826Total Foid Death
>>292166354>I wonder if Turbo Baba could somehow let Momo see Okarun's memoriesrealistically speaking she would get the ick if she saw even a glimpse of this>>292163535
>>292169329>realistically But it's an incel fantasy so she would probably kiss him.
>>292169329Momo? The feeler girl? She's the kind of retard who would have to be stopped from turning those bullies into toothpaste
>>292169363At that point it would be blatant that Momo is giving him “pity pussy”, which goes against the narrative Tatsu is trying to sell us that Okarun “earned” Momo, but we all know she was given to him along with Aira, Vamola, Rin etc
>>292161182>>292160681Notice how the image implies people throwing shit at him (like the beginning) and not full on sadistic assault? Maybe Tatsu decided to make the bullying more harsher so it wouldn’t look mundane next to the other backstories. Does it really make sense for Okarun to be relatively normal with others after going through brutal assault to the point of suicidal ideation and having murderous thoughts just because he met a girl? I thought calling him an idealized character wasn’t all that true until now with this backstory, it’s far too weird for this shit to come out only now through supernatural forces lol.
>>292168097I unironically want Hase to explain his backstory, poised to be a tragic tale like all the others, only for it to be the most nothingburger backstory every about how his parents wouldn’t buy him a car or some other stupid shit. This manga is overdue for a subversion like that.
>>292164674This amnesia arc is too long, it like one piece in Dressrosa but without the aura and hype moments
>>292169532>I read one piece Loser.
I don't trust this flashback, whatever is possessing him right now might be embelishing the worst parts.
Ok, so I was doubtful at first, but the author must have an NTR fetish, all the NTR shit happening then it is capped of by Okarun having been humiliated like a sissy boy...
>>292166946just wait until the new generation of Indian kids realize their jap classmates won't fight back
>>292169733I don't think the events as they are presented are embellished but the anger and violent ideation he never had before is coming more from the club than him
>>292169433It’s why this arc is hot garbage. Tatsu threw away everything he built up for more predestination muh chosen one bullshit.
>>292169764He is corrupting the pure club with his hatred.
>MC was moments away from a school shooting when supernatural events thrust him into the role of a protagonist insteadOh hey I've read this one
After the cuckshit false flags, the actual reason for Okarun being such a hapless spaz about Momo not loving him the same anymore is just pure projection of his mommy issues and that's genuinely worse.
>>292167027In semi-rural america, the bullies were the children of police officers and got away with it and then became police officers themselves. Especially if the victims were nonwhite and/or poor
>>292170005Parasites are not victims.
>>292169217>he read?>dump eet
I think I’m rooting for CSG now.
>>292169041>don't wait around for a woman to save youShut the fuck up, you edgy reddit piece of shit.
>>292170183You are beyond saving.
>>292168056>caps lock meltdown
There should be another rape scene. With Hase as the raped one. It is his only fitting penance. OGRErun should show him who's the boss of this gym.
>>292170341I'm self inserting as Hase so I don't like this idea.
>>292170371Okarun will be self-inserting into Hase if you catch my drift
>>292163535What is this? Gantz minus the autism charm? This is way, waaay too much and it comes across as farcical at best if not manipulative at worst instead. >>292163616Exactly this.
There should be another rape scene. With Hase as the rapist. It is his only fitting reward. CHADse should show Momo and Okarun who's the boss of this gym.
>>292170341Mold>>292170433Gold
>>292170341>hase after taking okarun's entire oni club up his ass
>>292163402This became manag accurate
>>292168459Older women are just hip with the kids nowadays
>>292170615Tomar?!
Okarun is so much cuckable after this character
>>292170433Hase should just rape Okarun
>>292163299Look at this fucking scrawny loser holy Christ I despise littlebitchcore
What the fuck happened to this manga? Why did it jump the shark?
>>292171041Too many characters.Giving every single useless retard a special power.Too many contrived plotlines.Too much drawing out of the main characters' romance.Shitty tropes, such as amnesia.
>>292170838It's more a question of whether he should rape Momo first and Okarun second or the other way around
>>292170750Yes Rico, Tomar
>>292171041I'd like to point point out that at most two hours have passed in the manag for the last 12 or so chapters
>>292171041It started getting really bad after the character popularity poll.
>>292163701Manga bullying is real in the same way they still wear those swimsuits, and the student council is powerful and dangerous, and you can leave class to fight demons and then come back later and nobody really questions you.I wonder if japanese people watch american dramas and wonder similar things about us.
>>292171127I can confirm everything you see on TV is bullshit.
>>292163535>>292169962Why isn't this getting made more fun off?
>>292169952>korean shitkill yourself
>>292171127Swimsuits? What swimsuits?
we need more Momo and Aria ENF
>>292171127>student council is powerful and dagerousFirst time hearing this trope
>>292163535This panel is so over the top it makes me wonder if we're seeing some bizarre fusion of Okarun and Turbo Granny's memories, like he's "remembering" her trauma through the connection between them and inserting it into his own. TG's backstory 100% will include rape in some form.
What did Tatsu mean by this?? Stacy x Chad couple canon soon?
tummy
Kinta. That’s it. That’s the post.
>>292170005>he thinks you wouldn't get fucked fifteen ways to Sunday if you screwed with a minority because the school is afraid of lawsuitsLmao.
>>292171441This depends greatly on how old you are.
>>292166946People who punch bullies or fight them are the ones who will get in trouble and only if they are very lucky both parties will. Having one kid or a small group of kids be the focus of all the bullying creates order and predictability and people who fit back disturbs that order.
>>292171257
>>292171441>thinking some poor minority in a small town can afford thatthat would happen in a real city but many small towns have a ton of issues that you'd think were done away with. It'd have to be something really egregious, possibly lethal for it to make waves and get picked up some org
>>292168056Anon a girlfriend won't save you. Stop trying to get one assuming it'll bring you happiness
>>292171441You watch too much TV.
>>292171479Didn't you watch Kaguya? Beat his ass anyway, the reprecussions are not that bad.
The series brings out the worst in people for some reason
>>2921710831. momo pussy2. momo butthole3. ken throat4. ken butthole5. momo throat6. repeat steps 1-5 2x/dayAira may be substituted in any step as desired
>>292171617I came here to laugh at you.
>>292171260He's just indiscriminate and will like whatever catches his eye in the tag. He's liked MomoAira and UnJiji stuff before too.
>>292171556Sure bud. It's just the wild west out there with hoards of young white boys just raring to lynch the blacks and the building staffed predominately with college educated white women just sit back and let it happen.
>>292171684Touch grass.
>>292171260hopefully just to end the triangle nonsense
>>292171657So why has he never liked MomoJiji or AiraOkarun art on Twitter?
>>292171441Why are americans like this?
AiraxOkarun is the true pairing.
>>292171770I don't know, man. My knowledge is entirely reliant on whether the person who drew the art posts a reaction to Tatsu liking their stuff. Maybe he has, maybe he hasn't.
>>292171801He's simply wrong.
>>292171841He's right.
:)
>>292171766Aira is for Hase.
>>292170615Shalom
>>292171852No you are not.
when was the last moment the series peaked
>>292172001When he said YABBA DABBA DO
Ok, so maybe the latest chappy didn't present him a particularly good light, but if Papakura was really that bad, he wouldn't make eggs for his son now would he? They're probably good too, you'd eat his eggs, right?
>>292172051No I wouldn't those eggs are not cooked properly.
>>292172066The heat of the pan cooks the eggs.
>>292163616100% my take. As another anon said in the other thread, perhaps this would be interesting if it was teased out over the last 250 chapters, but Okarun never gave off this level of trauma; he was an awkward, ostracized kid. No way the kid beaten half to death every week is telling popular / hot girl Momo that shes dumb for believing in ghosts, for example. This is a desperate bid to gain a few emotional points after a shit arc thats gone on way too long.
>>292172071Didn't break the yolk, didn't flip the eggs. Those are half cooked half raw. Send it back to the kitchen it's fucking raw!
>>292172051He crashed out when he lost his job, presumably he managed to find work since then and is stable again. He does still seem pretty distant from his son, he might feel guilty about being an inadequate father and provider in the past and feels too awkward connecting with Ken.
>>292172124His emotional response indicates low IQ, he's going to be a shit to a degree no matter how his life is going.
>>292172090Are you familiar with sunny-side up eggs, you fucking spastic?
>>292172169Have you seen Rocky, eating raw eggs doesn't make them not raw.
Wasn’t Okarun’s TG form always depressed or some shit? Maybe this is hamfisted but it’s not completely inexplicable for him to not act like a jaded and edgy kid at a glance. He pretty much gets the one thing he wants at the start of the series. However I couldn’t imagine him being hazed and bullied to that extent. Is Hase getting possessed or corrupted by something? He’s going above and behind to get back at some nerd. It’s amazing how much or a spiteful vengeful bastard he is.
>>292172269Possessed by the embodiment of awesomeness.
God, do you guys remember when that first trailer for season 1 of Dandadan came out and how hype it was? Take me back. This series has been ass for so long now.
I kneel.
>>292172356He's killing Ken as a tribute, it all makes sense.
>>292168459grandma is the best character in 99% anime.
>>292170515Gay fantasy
>>292172086It’s just misery porn atp. There’s nothing inspiring about Okarun’s character or backstory, it shows him as a defeatist loser who had no purpose or direction in life until his literal wish-fulfillment physical manifestation Momo came to save him. Idk what kind of person can say “Okarun is a good MC and hero that kids should look up to” with a straight face. This is something that only feminist would enjoy because its message is putting women on a goddess pedestal. His origin would’ve been better left off as a mystery.
>>292168459Shes going to knock some sense into her granddaughter and fix this whole amnesia plot
forgive him
i dropped it when momo shrunk but let me guess this straight>random amnesia arc for no reason at all after setting up the lead romance>ntr arcs ????>guy whose entire thing is just bullying okarun gets powers solely so he can turbo bully him morewhat is the purpose of this?
>>292172460I forgive him.
>>292172269The Oni club is probably amplifying all the worst bullying experiences he had. Most of the time it was probably the mundane stuff like throwing paper and magnets at him, but that stuff can still build up resentment over time. >Is Hase getting possessed or corrupted by something?When he's in hopping crone form, it probably does make him more violent than he'd usually be. At this point there's a degree of sunk cost fallacy. He lost against Okarun once, and now he's bumping shoulders with the superpowered Epstein crew since they are the ones who enable him to gain some semblance of power and revenge. He was already a dick, but the company he is keeping is enabling him to become more and more deplorable. He's a future Red Baron in the making.
>>292172427I usually don't bother with bully drama/revenge stories pretty much because of this. It's all the same stuff going down the same well-worn path. Even at it's best it's got cackling super-bullies and a worthless punching protagonist and authorities that don't exist/do nothing and then suddenly the protagonist is magically granted even the slightest initiative and "gets" to have revenge now. I get the feeling there's going to be further developments on this but even so, this is dull. This is on the level of revealing that actually, he has a cursed bloodline and the powers were his all along and he's the chosen one. Yuck. It's a late reveal of the most stock tropes.
>>292172460I don'tbecause he hasn't done anything that would require forgiveness
let's cleanse this trashbin a little, with canon
>>292172896
>>292167984Jiji doesn't. The evel landlords don't count, his childhood was sweet and loving, he grew up to be a himbo, and he even bullied Momo.
>>292172967Parents status?
>That river double spread with Okarun's family reminiscent of Zuma seeing his family sceneZuma could be the older brother Okarun never had ngl
>>292172995Fine. Kinta discovered Jiji got it from his mom kek
>>292172896>>292172943I love how on the next page we see Okarun with clearly hurt class rep, and Seiko didn't feel it was worth mentioning or doing anything about it. Nah, just wait for Momo to lazily get down for dramatic reveal.
>>292167984the japanese love this melodrama shit
>>292172995Happily married, rich and in good health
>>292163616See, he commented on being bullied all the way back in the first chapter. But, what's hard to gage would be the severity. Japan is fucking weird when it comes to bullying so I could honestly view this as being "normal" to them. On the other hand, I wonder if the Oni Club is skewing his memories, and while he was bullied, it simply wasn't to the severity that his cursed mind thinks it is. Also, I don't think the moral here is that pussy is his savior - but it was that encounter with Momo that took him out of his very lonely existence and allowed him to make friends.I'm reserving full judgement until this particular plot is resolved. I will admit to being rather fatigued with this whole arc (mostly due to the Momo amnesia thing).
>>292166354That reminds me that they should still have the communication device that they used during the alien invasion arc, it would surely be super helpful if they used the same feature that allowed everyone to see Vamola's flashback to restore Momo's memories...
>What if all the bad backstories combined are all things that happened to Tatsu, and he's trauma dumping on us, because therapy in Japan sucks
Jiji is a mirror of Okarun in a way. Deep at the core they're similar as they're two very good hearted guys, arguably I'd say Okarun has the kinder heart while Jiji has the kinder manners Jiji is what happens when you grow up in a healthy and financially stable environment, surrounded by love. Granted that still makes you a bit of a normie so you give in to peer pressure and don't fully understand outcasts because you never grown to be one, but ultimately your compassion is still there and you even end up having a naive worldview. Jiji does good deeds out of naivety and selfishness Okarun is what happens when you grow up in an unhealthy, isolated environment, that makes you more of a non conformist and more sacrifical since you're being conditioned to think you're not worthy of anything. Okarun does good deeds out of the pure love he always had in himself but he had never the chance to express, he knows what it feels to be helpless and they're twisted in a sacrifical way out of his very low self worth, and in a way, to help his inner child he seea in others in needI wish the manga had a development when it's someone else taking the bullet for Okarun
>>292173100where it is*
>>292173100>so you give in to peer pressure If Jiji was like this he wouldn’t be friends with Okarun, Momo and Kinta >I wish the manga had a development when it's someone else taking the bullet for OkarunDidn’t we literally see that with Aira in this arc? She was willing to give up her powers and potentially her life for Okarun and he didn’t give a shit, only thing on his mind was “must protect muh Momo”
The boy that is Okarun's age is probably Hase, but it would be funnier if it was Kinta instead.
>>292172460>inb4 he also has a tragic backstory>inb4 he is the younger child to the man Okarun's mom marries>inb4 he lived a living hell with his new stepmom and takes it out on Okarun insteadCalling it NOW. The younger kid even has the same haircut
>>292172896why does she sleep facing down
>>292172492>Random amnesiaMainly to depower Momo and throw her off her game, the main evil dude is responsible>nrr arcs ????None whatsoever, it's just shitposters, anyone telling you the path isn't leading to Momokarun still is deluded or bullshitting you>bullyAnother change due to the main bad guy, the bully is encouraged to get Okarun's power because they don't believe he'd gotten rid of them. He also ends up forming a sort of rivalry with Kinta too.>purposeThe purpose is to tell a story, to throw conflict and obstacle all over the oath and see how our beloved characters navigate it. Our two leads got pretty powerful pretty quick, how do they fare when knocked down a peg? Our primary antagonist had infiltrated the school, who attending it might make for a good minion and why? Okarun's whole deal is mainly nerd pulled out of his shell, how can that be explored?
>>292173233>how can that be exploredpoorly it seems
>>292173246If you say so. I like getting more info on his family, and his isolation, and how he really feels about his life up til meeting Momo. All we had for a good long while is knowing he was lonely and hoped aliens would be his friends, since humans wouldn't. Getting to know his anger and despair while (presumably) Granny tries to untangle it is fine by me. Momo is obviously very important but I'm hoping that how far he's come in general is addressed. All his new friends, his maturity through conflicts, his pivot to self improvement and chasing desires instead of thinking that all that's left to make him happy is a tall fall. I can get being frustrated with any detours while the amnesia train is still chugging along, but you won't enjoy any stories of you're chanting "get on with it already! get to the next bit!" instead of engaging with the moment.
>>292173271this entire shitpost of an arc shouldve been wrapped up months ago
>>292173273The only thing cheaper than "and then the character lost their memory, oh no!" is "and then suddenly they're cured, hooray!". I'm hoping it won't stick around much longer, don't get me wrong, but I trust the story to do what it needs to and move on.
>>292169455>He's okaruns stepbrother>Hates him specially for acting like he's too good to live with his family
>>292171441>Implying the lat matters in small town flyover state where jim bobs family has run the police for 100 years
>>292172896Why does the TL insist on using 'turd' so much? It's not enduring it's nasty. I am almost certain whatever they're saying in Japanese doesn't TL to this because otherwise I'd see it in more stuff, but it's pretty much exclusively Dandadan that uses it insistently.
>>292173204There's not really any value in giving them that kind of relationship. There's not a lot of interaction to be had through it, at worst you could backstory that Hase resents Okarun because his mom constantly talks about her other son, but that's contrived since she seems gleefully out of the picture entirely, and Hase works better as a prideful dick who needs to keep randoms down to sit up top. On the note of his potential backstory, I like the way DDD folds in characters to stay, but I don't see him being redeemed or embraced; regardless of whatever's wrong with him and what led to it, he's just kind of a dick, and it'd feel jarring to go "awe it's okay buddy we understand" for half the shit he's pulled. On the other hand killing him seems a bit extreme, but he's currently working for the main villain, so I'm not sure how to remove his threat properly, I don't think a simple depowering and a grounding will set him straight.
>>292173374killing him would be based so it will never happen
>>292171916Aira would never go for someone like him.
>>292163535You’d never catch my nigga Jiji down bad like this
>>292171441Tom King's Lanterns?
>>292172999Zuma is younger than Okarun
Since bullies always have reason to behave the way they do, I'm gonna wait patiently for Hase reason. His redemption arc is gonna be interesting.
>>292163402What his backstory taught me is that you shouldn’t be a pathetic loser like him. Be a man like Zuma instead. Know when to fight back, and focus on your studies instead of wasting your time simping over some bitch.
>>292173542At the very least be a god damn Kinta and enjoy your weirdness, be passionate about it.
>>292163375This, Hase's got a tragic past too.
>>292173492I know you're trolling but his reason is something like Takopi's Marina + envy + he got dethroned in the social hierarchy. If there's something more tragic, no reason is good enough to be such a sociopath. Zuma had it way worse than him and he became a delinquent but never hurted any innocent TL;DR fuck Hase
>>292173485eh and people wouldn't guess
This backstory makes Momo and him developing ANY sort of feelings even more of a wish fulfillment than you could imagine previously. Nerds like him never get female attention in school because they are repulsive by their very nature, if manga wanted to depict a way out of bullying it should have been focused either on getting an older positive role model or being completely separated from his previous harmful environment and starting anew.
Maybe unpopular opinion but I'm kinda glad RB and Hase are gonna be recurring villains. Especially RB I like seeing him fail
projection and coping are hard in these threads. Anons acts like Hase because they're too scared to see Okarun in the mirror, just without any of his positive and redeeming qualitiesmen are never going to get better, they're crabs
>>292173595Hase is a "you love to hate him" villain and shows the ruthlessness of simple humans, who are monsters inside. The problem is that so far he never got wrecked for good, but I don't think just breaking his bones again would suffice and it was done already Someone suggested him becoming a yokai permanently for the world to see his true nature, since he's a handsome guy on the outside but utterly rotten on the inside, that's a brilliant punishment
>>292165994First they take care of hyper geezer and his plot, Vlad and his cronies are the obvsious distraction and CSG is the real threat.Momo gets her memories back, all of her memories and we get her real backstory and where she got her powers from and it triggers the final saga. Also is turns out what CSG was doing was actually to prevent a bigger cataclysm level event and they fucked everything up.
the finale is going to be crazy fun shenanigans. I think Tatsu will wrap everything up by 2028
It would be a good subversion if Okarun just got a gun.
>>292173354Mista would say this
I want to fuck Vamola.That's it.
>>292171259may be an exaggeration caused by the oni club
>>292163647>>292163616Mob Psycho?
>>292164800I don't think this says momo is an alien, but momo is someone that came to help him, but she could be both.
>>292163616Hear hear
>>292174222Yeah. Mob starts working on himself, joins a sports club full of positive male role models, find a few older friends and directly tries to confess even if he gets rejected in the end and it's clear he's going to grow up into a good man.
>>292174240Momo is 100% non-human, and so is Jiji
the spite this threads has towards Okarun is fascinating, I don't think it's just the standard hate on the "weaklings", all the mental gymnastics to frame Okarun as everything but an outstanding guy suggests there's a deep hatred for him, jealousy maybeMob is unrealistic. Okarun is realistic (to an extent) and shonenshitters seem very annoyed when their protagonist is a human instead of an ideal
So, who was leaving the magazines for Okarun? Was it Seiko?
>>292172685This is why I need to see the full backstory. Why was he bullied? It's not without reason and has nothing to do with his parental situation.And that he was abused all the way until teenagehood implies to me that he's just really fucking annoying and asking for it.And if it's a case of "exaggerated memories cause by the Oni spirit", as some are coping with, that'd be a huge hack move because then we'd still don't know his real backstory.
>>292174319either a new positive character or CSG, but the count doesn't seem to be all that interested in Okarun and got on Earth not long ago, plus he's a villain. Having Okarun's only escapism linked to a villain would be in bad taste since his love for aliens was never represented as something negative
>>292174268Oh, interestingI was just confused since the other guy said mob and his author were worse, so I figured there was no way he was talking about MP
>>292174268>starts working on himself>befriends positive male role models>tries to confesssounds familiar. Have you done any of that anons?
>>292174292>Okarun is realisticThere's absolutely nothing realistic about this over the top background, he would an hero long ago or grow up into a complete mess. Mob is far, FAR more realistic, hell almost every "bullied loser" I can remember in shounenshit is more realistic, which includes even the most pathetic pussies like Deku.
>>292174395>pussies like Dekuoh you're that brand of retardation, pointless arguing with you
>>292174407Of course you love two shitsmears getting magical means to solve all their issues instead of growing as people.
>>292163535Is this an asian thing? I mean, if these guys would do this to someone in west, people would think of them as raging homos
>>292174292>the spite this threads has towards Okarun is fascinating,people always hated him, it's not new, it's just the circumstances made them believe they are in the right
cuck manga
>>292174415you don't seem that grown as a person and mature either anon, maybe less than two teenagers>>292174430>the circumstances made them believe they are in the rightWdym? these circumstances should to the opposite technically, but I'm not surprised by the outcome. Sounds like a strong herd mentality
>>292174466>you don't seem that grown as a personI'm sure you can tell this through the monitor, the person defending the most pathetic Jump protagonists.
>>292174429spreading someone's nude images/videos in this manner is humiliating in most cultures Them posing in the videos and creating a record of their own crimes also isn't strictly asian
Is Hase his stepbrother?
>>292174388>Have you done any of that anons?I've never even had a girl i was into and stopped talking to people or going to school at age 13. Ten years ago.Never had a friend or anything like that
>>292174485as I said, the anger of people like you towards these boys fascinates me, I don't even think both are all that interesting as characters. I really want to understand what's behind it, it seems so animalistic, or something like those women hating on cuter girls being choosed by boys
>>292174487I guess it's just me then. I would be like: "you stripped a guy naked and posed with him like he's a trophy? You are gay"
I haven't been keeping up very closely with this manga but I feel like there is just no way to wrap this up in a way that feels cohesive to the story so far. Okarun hiding his powerlevel is the status quo and this series loves returning to the status quo, but it's gonna feel weird for him to act like he did before with this backstory. Nothing about this reveal is satisfying or informative of how he acts as a character beyond him wanting friends, none of this makes enough sense for me to buy into the idea that he was like this all along and just hiding. This is just misery porn in place of actual motivation. This is not the inciting incident for anything, infact it basically has to be ignored completely for the rest of the characterization to land.
>>292174505I am genuinely sorry about your condition, anon. What's in this manga that captivates you to join the fandom?
>>292174516Stories exist for a reason, ultimately they are a vehicle of a certain idea or a message. A story about a guy with shit childhood and life who manages to slowly unfuck himself without getting everything handed over to him as granted are infinitely more compelling than "a loser suddenly gets a hottie ready to jump on his dick and enough power to blow up a small town".I guess that's the difference between me, someone who read a lot of classic coming of age literature, and you.
>>292174516>choosed
I'm not one of the cuck cuck cuck people but I think it's too late in Dandadan to give okarun a horrific backstory. I couldn't really connect with it because it feels like a retcon to be so bad and yet never important enough to have shown it to us before.
I'm pretty sure the stripping bullying trope comes from yakuza stripping people so they don't run away. Which is kind of funny because I feel like other countries don't do that because they'd usually just run anyway if they had the opportunity. >>292174516There's nothing complex about getting sick of many of these new shonen protags all being a little too pathetic to like much. There's limits. Bullying is fine as a backstory but I don't want to see young goku naked and having cigarettes put out on his penis and being made to eat dog turds and then he acts the bigger man and lets them go.I just can't think this guy is cool.
>>292174543I like the cool fights and wish fulfillment romance of the first arcs.>Your condition.I don't have one i'm just bad at talking to people. They tried to diagnose me with the tism but couldnt. I'm 100% healthy and mentally cognizant. Just unlikeable.
So I’m guessing Okarun is going to die in the next few chapters by one of the Paladins and then TG will pull a Acro silky and sacrifice herself to bring him back to life so he will permanently have the TG yokai powers again
>>292174544>Stories exist for a reason, ultimately they are a vehicle of a certain idea or a messageI agree>A story about a guy with shit childhood and life who manages to slowly unfuck himself without getting everything handed over to himseems like DanDaDan to me, and MHA to some extent, both aren't really about powers but about the journey of controlling these powers for good. I'd say Mob would be worse at that since he was born talented, he was a lucky one, while Okarun got cursed and Deku had to handle responsabilities with his powers as well. Sure there are better examples of this, it's not up to debate, but the issue here wasn't the story structure but Okarun as a character in itself>someone who read a lot of classic coming of age literature>a loser suddenly gets a hottie ready to jump on his dick and enough power to blow up a small townyou like to flex your cultural assets but it doesn't seem like you truly have the smarts to comprehend the stories you read, DanDaDan was never about powers just as Mob wasn't
>>292174556>shonen protags all being a little too pathetic to like muchsounds retarded, if you have basic empathy that makes you root for them more and adds something to their characters. Only a vocal western minority bitches so much about these new protags, Okarun is the third most popular character in the show>then he acts the bigger man and lets them govalid complaint if you mean how forgiving he was to Hase after he got powers. I always thought Deku should've been less subservient to Bakugou, but again, that's a trait someone with bullying trauma has
>I just can't think this guy is coolcool is overrated
oh sorrySeems like Okarun is the 1st most popular character in the manga LMAO
>>292163535He went through all this to still catch Momo spooning with Jiji while he was in a coma and all he got in return was some cold leftover tofu and a note
>>292174801that's realistic. Men get no recognition or celebration expecially if they're guys like Okarun
>>292163375>Hase will be redeemed and end up with Aira.Almost correct:>Hase will be redeemed by meeting his end through Aira's hand
>>292163402Non-canon ass development.Okarun already made a lot of friends and went through a bunch of life changing adventures. Also, he had Momo confirm her affection multiple times at tgis point, not mentioning Aira pinning for his cock.>wot if post-Pain arc Naruto suddenly remembered about being bullied and bitched about it
>>292174635>if you have basic empathyActually I just don't want a cool guy genre story about a dude getting his bare naked penis stepped on and crying and being filmed naked calling himself gay and maybe sucking the bullies penises too.>>292174669In a shonen it isn't. It's actually about cool guys going on adventures and not victims trying to kill themselves.
>>292174884Shonen is kinda shit for a reason. I liked the most recent chapter.
>>292174345>This is why I need to see the full backstory. Why was he bullied? It's not without reason and has nothing to do with his parental situation.And that he was abused all the way until teenagehood implies to me that he's just really fucking annoying and asking for it.Because he's weird and weak? Most bullies just find it funny to torture weirdos. It's like in their instincts. If the bullied kid reacts, that justifies the bullying because they got some amusement out of it, and they'll likely do it again when they are bored. If the bullied kid just tries ignoring it, it becomes a challenge to try to "break" the kid.
>>292174840Aira ending Hase would be poetic, the ultimate proof of her love since Okarun killing her is out of the picture now that TG is calming him down>Okarun calms down>Momo is there with him>Hase tries to kill him from behind hurting Momo in the process>Kinta cannot intervene>Aira stops him and takes the blow
>>292164757Yes, it's a common hazing thing.Happens in prisons and military too, basically everywhere with strict conditions.
>>292174345>It's not without reason and has nothing to do with his parental situation.They didn't like his face.
>>292174598>both aren't really about powersThey are about a loser suddenly getting his life fixed by outside forces without having to work or change for it. Supernatural power is just an analogy for gaining control over your life, and when it is given to you in overwhelming volumes with no internalization or self-improvement, it's just a power fantasy. Mob sidesteps this by improving aspects of his life where his talents have no meaning, and he does so through pain, exercises, and socialization. There's nothing wrong with getting supernatural powers in the vacuum, issues arise when it's not a spark for development but unjustified gratification.The entire point of good coming-of-age stories for boys is to reconcile the protagonist with the world, and this cannot be achieved without the protagonist changing his perspective on life, most notably shifting from egocentrism to responsibility. Both Deku and Okarun are still the same toddlers they were in chapter 1 compared to chapter 200 of their stories, and for Okarun this ridiculous over the top background just makes it obvious the writer is terrible at his job on top of it. Compare this to good coming of age protagonists like Mob, Rei or Shoya, and the difference becomes apparent immediately.
reminder that the actual school shoter is Hase since he joined a bunch of terrorists just out of spite because the nerd he bullied was becoming more popular with girls than him
>>292174896you're talking to a coping bully or to a troll, they have been pulling this narrative on purose since the chapter dropped, don't lose your time
>>292163975KWAB
>>292174958Kinta is so fucking cool
>>292163402Unironically based, if by killing everyone who puts your heart at distress you find peace then you should do it.
>>292174993I think plumetting the lives of the ones who wronged you is a better punishment
>>292174958He's manipulated, doesn't know what he's doing. He needs help. His own Momo to set him straight.
>>292174954>Mob sidesteps this by improving aspects of his life where his talents have no meaning, and he does so through pain, exercises, and socializationbut so does Okarun, to a lesser extent>issues arise when it's not a spark for development but unjustified gratificationa little power fantasy doesn't hurt but for both characters powers are mostly just a mean to fight bigger forces they couldn't fight as normal humans>The entire point of good coming-of-age stories for boys is to reconcile the protagonist with the world, and this cannot be achieved without the protagonist changing his perspective on lifethat's true, even if some life perspectives of some underdogs aren't wrong. I think Okarun did that successfully since he started trusting people>most notably shifting from egocentrism to responsibilityboth Deku and Okarun aren't egocentric and very responsibile, Okarun more so than Deku >Both Deku and Okarun are still the same toddlers they were in chapter 1 compared to chapter 200 of their storiesyours is, as I said, mental gymnastics trying to find a reason to hate on these specific characters. You equal a flawed or imperfect moment with no development, it's laughable, characters will complain, have their weaknesses and everything else as they should. Okarun was a mature kid since the first chapters, he only needed to trust people more and hate on himself less, maybe that's why his developed might seem scarce to some>MobMob is an extremely idealistic protagonist. I'd say a gary stu too at some point. I find him wholesome but his morals are utterly exaggerated and nonsensical. Having Okarun with a lot of pent up anger or Deku gushing over his bully out of Stockholm syndrome makes them both more realistic thus their growth as characters becomes more impactful
>>292175078Jiji and his big dick might set his ass straight alright
>>292175240Jiji is for RB
>>292175258Too bad Red kun is straight and head over heels for that rich girl
>>292174847Naruto wasn't possessed by a demon of rage making him relapse.>But Kurama!Kurama is essentially a Disney character.
>>292175268RB still has room for their (one-sided) rivalry
Fake backstoryWith this backstory he would be fucking Aira daily
>>292163535Why is asian bullying always of sexual nature? I've seen countless videos where they strip down a girl and even touch her despite being girls themselves, it's gay as fuck
>>292165444Who are the animal companions?
>>292175311>one sidedthere are no sides in that relationship
>>292175343Jiji and Aira >>292165431
>>292175343Dog>Okarun >loyaltyBird>Aira>beauty Monkey>Jiji>smart
>>292175344Nah it is one-sided. Not even Evil Eye cares about RB
>>292175368I was talking about another kind of sides, anonAnd the Baron would definitely bottom
>>292175393>And the Baron would definitely bottomNah, he would KNEEL
>>292175368>i am forgotten
>>292175354>OkarunA cockroach
>>292175423They on the moon with the Mongolian worm
>>292175419that's the ideal position to take it like a man
>>292169962I like the angle.
>>292175419this guy is getting redeemed
>>292174896>Most bullies just find it funny to torture weirdos. It's like in their instincts.Wrong. Yes, there are the rare psychos with terrible parents that enjoy sadism, but those get shunned hard by the rest of the school, not photo-posing clique leaders.The majority of cases has those "weirdos" in a victim position because they are insufferable to be around and desperately try to make engage with people who don't want to be their friend, turning neutral bystanders into further rejection that silently support the bullies.Not saying it's right or "part of natural selection" or some bullshit like that, but claiming it's without reason is just utterly disconnected from reality and demonizes regular students who don't accept having to tolerate a talking mosquito.Chapter 32 of Drama Queen is probably the most realistic fictional example of bullying. You can read it without context.t. ex-bully turned teacherThat's why I want to see how Okarun interacted with people of his age instead of skipping straight to the beatdown. The only time we've seen him do that is with Momo in Chapter 1 and even she comments on how annoying he is.Due to his aylium autism, Okarun would have pushed away the only person who stood up for him if she didn't accept the bet. That's unbelievable with this kind of backstory.
>>292175423Nah, you came back for a short moment in the manga, to have synergy with the season 2 anime, that happened to adapt your first arc. Everyone cared then!
>>292175571>t. ex-bully turned teacherJust just and to say teacher and the first part would've been obvious
>>292175571>ex-bully turned teacheroh I see now. No need to further explain yourself, you didn't need to reveal yourself so easily
>>292175571i have been a sort of bully in primary school, nothing too severe I mostly tagged along some banter against a kid who was annoying due to autism. To this day, I regret it, and life rightfully taught me a lesson the years afterNo reason justifies bullying, do your fucking job and punish them or report them. Also I don't want any kids near a teacher like you, I don't care how much of a competent teacher you think you are
>>292175571>t. ex-bully turned teacherLet me guess, you're the type at tells the victim to just "go somewhere else" when the bullies approach them.
love how everyone is shitting on this guy >>292175571
>>292175571it seems you're also autistic and you cannot stand people like you. Rather than helping, you perpetuate the problem
>>292163299No one in this manga has suffered like okarun
Bullying is a complicated phenomenon. Not defending it, but it exists on crossroads of victim's own personality quirks, a hierarchical structure of the group he doesn't fit in, and the faults of modern education system itself.You cannot just discard the fact the victim doesn't fit in. Some victims of bullying are plain unpleasant either physically or mentally, flat out weird or cannot read social ques and overstep them in a way that irks others. In other words, in a very broadly animalistic sense they transmit the "this guy is a weak or dangerous link of our group" which triggers a social mechanism you can find in many animal species. Ultimately schools and teachers should interfere and break down internal hierarchies to pair up likely-minded kids to, but fat chance of that ever happening.Okarun is fucking weird and offputting, no way around it. This background is poorly written and extremely over the top but of course a kid like him would be bullied, he essentially paints a huge-ass target on his own back himself. That's why I think the manga should have been concerned with giving him a positive male role model and letting him grow up organically, rather than introducing a manic pixie dream girl who is a school supermodel but weirdly into him for no reason.
>>292172409It’s all they have.
>>292173090>Tatsu’s family was killed by an intergalactic genocidal alien empire
>>292175628>rejecting information from someone more knowledgeable and experienced so you can continue believing in your headcanonThe amount of anecdotes I have would shatter your view regarding this topic instantly but that'd be derailing. "Bully victim from Class A switches to Class B. Class A stops bullying, Class B starts bullying" is a certified classic.>>292175677No one said anything about justification. "EX-bully" implies I went through the same thing you did.Obviously, it's the wrong way to go about things and punishment is laid out adequately. And in a perfect world we'd have no bullying but in said perfect world we'd also didn't have annoying people. Again, I'm disputing the claim that bullying just happens without reason, not saying it's good or beneficial or some shit.Truthfully, there's nothing Okarun could have really done or said to deserve THIS extreme level of abuse, but it being so lopsided when the only instance we have of him interacting with classmates is him being annoying, I feel it leans too much into the suffering and pity-baiting. Naturally, it would damped the mood if we had panels of Okarun being a smug asshole, but that's not really an excuse to me.Also, to your surprise I'm the #1 settler of conflicts at my school since the "bullies" listen to me precisely because I understand their grievances. Figuring out their (often valid) reasons and giving them ways to relieve that frustration in a harmless manner is a much better solution for long-term change over going "That's wrong, get punished and the victim can continue doing what they do", which is devoid of recognizing the cause.Likewise, the victim gets a stern talking to as well (given that they were actually being bothersome) and methods to ... maybe not become friends but to reduce future conflicts due to their insufferable personality.>>292175776Ironically, that's what the ex-bully victims suggest. They are utterly useless when it comes to settling disputes.
>>292176134NTAgive some examples of the victim being annoying
>>292164333>living with a dude that deals with having issues at work by breaking his own houseNah, she was right leaving him
>>292175571You're clearly coping. Most bullies don't actually target more outgoing loser kids. Because the fact that they are trying to engage with others at the very least makes them seem "normal" to a degree.The kind of Bullying Okarun faced stems from an innate instinct to destroy what you find uncanny. A closed off weirdo who keeps to himself doesn't act like a normal human, and their brains register this as something wrong. It's entirely a case of dehumanization. Kids like Okarun stop being seen as people, and instead become freaks.
>>292176134>"EX-bully" implies I went through the same thing you didyou did not, don't compare me to scum like you, I regret my actions greatly and got what I deserved and then some. You're still coping trying to justify yourself and getting popular among kids half your age just like you did in HSKarma has to teach you a lesson
>>292176134This is entirely you trying to justify your instinctual hatred of abnormality that you retroactively decide that these victims deserved it because they were "annoying". One who tries standing up for himself is a "smug asshole", and one who closes himself off is "rude and dismissive". But it was people like you who force them into situations where they have to make a fool of themselves no matter what, so then you can say "what a jackass" and feel justified. Of course the bullies like you, because you validate their hatred by "understanding" them. You agree that the freak kid is a freak and therefore he deserves torment for existing.
>>292163535This is how I want my BL doujin to start.
>>292176029Zuma?
>>292163701Y'all think bullying is some super rare thing in the west? You just got lucky
Once a bully, always a bully
>>292176458he was being sarcastic anon...
>>292172269A yokai form seems to amplify underlying emotions. If the Turbo Granny form existed now, he would be violent and bloodthirsty.
>>292172269>depressedThe fact that none of this abuse was ever tied into the TG form makes it feel like a retcon. Turbo Granny herself is a victim avenger type yokai. I really don't like this being hundreds of chapters in
>>292174884Dandadan is basically an anti-shonen.
>>292175423Similar train to the "should we kill Hase" discussion, I was really surprised these guys got to live, as quirky antagonists even. They're mafia-like, make child sacrifices, and half of them are serial rapists. I would've been entirely on board with Momo ending their fucking lives, or the worm eating them for good. The twist is neat I guess but it never felt like it really came back.
>>292176261>A closed off weirdo who keeps to himself doesn't act like a normal humanThe whole point was that we DON'T know what Okarun did. You only assume he kept to himself because that's all we're being shown in this chapter.Then in Chapter 1 he has no issues following the Queen Bee and talking to her about his UFO shit, even stating "This is why you don't have friends". And no, I don't believe that's the first time anyone has spoken to him ever.>>292176388>You agree that the freak kid is a freak and therefore he deserves torment for existing.Huh? How the fuck did you even come to that conclusion? You have to read the post, anon.Bullying is not justifiable, period. Disdain for others is justifiable, as I'm sure we all know, understand and experience. Bullying is a method to convert that disdain into relief. Teaching alternative harmless methods to convert that disdain is one of the goals because the disdain will not magically go away via punishment.>One who tries standing up for himself is a "smug asshole"No, a smug asshole is whatever Okarun is being in pic related. Imagine if we had those kind of panels inbetween the beatings. Would take the wind out of the tone, right?
>>292177139Just tone inconsistency. Tatsu seems like more of a mimic than he really has any good touch for how things ought to feel himself, so he mixes up saturday morning cartoons with tearjerking.
>>292163299I think the slightly annoying pink girl should end up with Okarun.I only watched the anime though.
>/a/ hated this chapterwhat the FUCK happened?
Man, Okarun's backstory was even sadder than I expected...
>>292163299Simp deserves to die
>>292176056>>292176134If you're genuinely helping kids that's what matters end of the day, but your view is flawed. Bullies have all sorts of motives sure but a typical one is just that children are cruel and can sense outsiders such as gays or autists and know that they'll reinforce their belonging by jabbing at what doesn't belong. It's really telling that you can see what's been done to Okarun since childhood, since before he was even an alien otaku, and your thought process is "well he probably brought it on himself by being annoying, we don't see what justified the bullying". Nothing justifies the bullying, he's a weakling that doesn't fight back, which makes him a quiet kid, which makes him a weirdo, which makes him even more bullyable. His interaction with Momo was assuming the only reason she'd ever look his way was a shared interest, his interaction with the other kids was keeping to himself reading his book and antagonizing nobody, and he was still about to receive a magnet to the head, because it'd be funny and easy to torment the weakling outsider. To think his abnormality in any way earns him that treatment is a parallel thought process to his classmates that don't stand up for him because they already know he's weird and so think less of him.
>>292176693Does it amplify emotions? I thought it just gives a weird personality. After all Grannyrun isn't just depressed, he also talks super casually and just sorta whines about having to do stuff. Umbrella boy was confirmed to act weird in his yokai form too, not necessarily out of his true self right? If that were the case both of them probably would've accidentally confessed earlier in ghost form I'd think.
>>292168459they have tacos in japan?
>>292177412>After all Grannyrun isn't just depressed???
>>292177428anon that is noodles on a hot dog bun aka yakisoba
>there are people, on /a/ OUT OF ALL PLACES, saying that bullying victims "deserved it"amazing
>>292177030So shoujo? No wonder this manga is so shit.
>>292171568>Kaguyawhat
>>292163661whos the artist? Reverse didnt work
>>292177439Let me help you anon>justThere you go. Here have another one>alsoHope this helps. Try reading the full post next time.
>>292177472>OUT OF ALL PLACESThere are forks in kitchens yeah. This isn't exactly a website for nice and well-adjusted people, and hell if that's made it a kind and accepting place to be.
>>292174974Prophetic.
>>292174240It writing, it being both is called subtlety
>>292177472Nah bro, Okarun TOTALLY forced his space shit into Hase's face and kept doing it after getting his ass beat for several years! Bet that's why his parents broke up too!
>>292173900Actually i have an odd theory that CSG is effectively doing this to "evolve humanity ".He's been in space saw everything and thought "ah shot, earth's gonna get got by aliens and all the cool stuff is on earth, like ghosts and historical artifacts. Better create a super weapon"
>>292177472There were fags defending mass shooters in the last thread.
>>292163535If anyone tried to do that to Jiji, he would simply beat them all up.
>>292166946>Why the meek outcast does not fight the gang of bullies by himself? He will definitely win and teach them a lessonGo back
>>292163661God fucking dammit we are going to get stuck with the same shitty Haruhi thing arent we?In fact the more that I think about it DDD is just Haruhi remade. How did I not see that before?
>>292177864They would beg Jiji to have sex with him.
>>292163661Feet
Jiji barely could handle the Kitos and started making fun of Momo out of peer pressure. He would've reluctantly join the bullies while crying inside
>>292178152I doubt Jiji would've been into psychological torture. He was an idot kid, not a heartless one
>>2921774724chan is full of self-loathing retards, yes. They cope with the abuse they endured by telling themselves it was deserved and that it made them stronger or something.
>>292163701>JapanNot...much; otakus were and are outcasted because of their taste and how unremarkable they are. To receive that kind of bullying they need to be negative remarkable like be actual retards, hafu or something else.I remember some seiyuu said she was harassed on the bathroom back in high school by other girls because she made the popular pretty boy cry.Korea of the south...who knows but there are cases of actual male high school students gang raping adult women and junior high school girls at the boonies so and the parents of the perpetrators blaming the victims so...
>>292178152I think when others get involved he'd stand up for them, look how far he's going for Evil Eye. As a kid though yeah he wasn't as kind. Was it said that his Momo bullying was just to fit in? I thought he found it weird too.
>>292178271I think some are actual bullies who got ostracized with time or got dethroned by better bullies. This sub should watch "Welcome to the dollhouse", the ones who are genuine at least. It helps you understand what abuse does to people and why people abuse you it because you're ugly and they don't like you the mc is like female Okarun, but Okarun is sweeter
>>292177262More pity wank to bring back the declining reader base.
>>292178380>Was it said that his Momo bullying was just to fit in?it's my deduction but it looks very plausible. They were best buddies and Jiji was a bug enthusiast kid, talking non-stop about them to Momo just like Ken talks non stop about aliens. The way I see it is that his male friends started making fun of him because he had a crush on Momo the weirdo girl (true) so to shut them up and prove them wrong (they weren't) he joined the bullying, and maybe that would've helped Momo to think of him as cooler in his mind, you know about boys making fun of the girls they like. Jiji is very agreeable and ends up conceiling what he really thinks with jokes
>4chan>this sub
>>292178569Okarun is very cute
>>292177262/a/nons' ptsd
>>292178569I just love these dummies
>>292177746Probably every time his mom invited him for obligatory yearly family dinner.
>>292167021They werent fighting back, in fact they were preparing to give up, after they started it.
>>292178569Harry Potter?
>>292178348>Korea of the southSpic-san...
>>292178569Momo is so lucky
>>292178569I love this artist.
>>292163427>Zuma x Adachinow that's certainly an interesting ship
>>292177216Dude you are a psycho
>>292168472What happens if you remove the mask?
>>292177472It's not as much of a "they deserve it" and more of a "there are objective reasons they got bullied and you cannot fix it with just a change of environment because we are social mammals and this is a very social mammal behavior".It's shitty but this is how it is.t. weren't a bully, weren't a victim either, had my own little group within a class and we mostly kept to ourselves
>>292177472And the fucker is a teacher
