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Is this really that bad to live and die alone (beside parents, siblings, relatives, colleagues and comrades of both sexes and random level of acquaintance) without relationships, love, sex? I'm asking this about myself, because I don't feel unhappy about living 25 years without it, even though I have no philosophy or belief to live on nor I have any great goals to achieve in my life. I might be happy to live alone on my own slow passive and kinda lazy terms without wasting time, energy and material resources on a shit lottery called "personal life" and filling the gaps of not having sex by just jerking my gherkin.
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If you get a girlfriend you'll regret it. If you don't you'll regret it. You'll regret everything you do and don't do, that's just how life is.
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>>31111422
How would I regret about something that I haven't even asked for? I don't get it.
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>>31111469
trvthnvke
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>>31111469
So what could be done with this statement in mind?
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>>31111554
by preassuming regret you are free to act
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>>31111554
Helps you detach from regret and feel at peace regardless of what's happening.
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>>31111422
Kierkegaard moment
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>>31111562 >>31111610 wisdom
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>>31111562
But how preassuming the regret will set me free, if I know for sure I'm gonna regret everything I've done or haven't done?
>>31111610
And how should I detach from regret, if it will certainly haunt me in everything I'm going or not going to do?

Really, I don't get this whole philosophy, it's too doomy and demotivating to follow.
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>>31113250
You need to buddhismmaxx
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>>31113737
I don't think I can, especially when this thing seems very alien to me and I don't know when, from what and how to start.
Besides, I was born and raised very afar from the centres of buddhism and from people who follow it, my own tries at this would seem like just a lame LARP.
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>>31111264
Do what you want.
My brother is 36 and never got a gf, not because girls don't like him (they do), he's just to afraid to try things.
Our mom died a few months back. He never left the house and is slowly learning to do things for himself like cooking, cleaning, paying the bills. He does have a very good paying job, but he's too afraid of wasting his money. Sometimes even calls me to talk about if "do you think it's worth it to buy a ps5?".
He's a software engineer for his day job but he's also a guitar genius. Back in the day he put out a metal album and he composed all the songs. Nowadays he's too afraid of even posting his playing online.

I wouldn't be worried if he showed to be happy. But he has said before he wanted children and a family. He's clearly not doing it out of fear, and not because he's content.

Just do what you want OP. Not out of fear, but if you're actually content with being single, that's 100% fine. Just don't lie to yourself.
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>>31111264
It's literally exactly as bad as you think. No more, no less.
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>>31113758
> Not out of fear, but if you're actually content with being single, that's 100% fine.
Well, I'm not 100% sure about it, because I always try to look on different topics from different perspectives, and I see that it's not fear that stops me from trying to get sex and/or relationships, and I feel like I'm content with being single, but there are no other sound reasons behind it: I may be too lazy or too rationalistic or too cynical about it.
>>31113774
But I can't think about how bad that would be: I don't know anyone who would life happily or badly while being all-single, and I can't judge it from my own experience.
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32 y/o khhv and going strong. You can't miss what you've never experienced.
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>>31114063
Took the words right out of my mouth. All you can miss is the idea of it, not the actual act when in ignorance.
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>>31114156
That's cool. How do you manage with the external pressure from family and/or relatives and friends and overall setting? Beside I do fine, no one really asks me about having a partner/sex.
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>>31111264
you can always get a prostitute to try it
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>>31114156
>All you can miss is the idea of it, not the actual act when in ignorance.
Ideas are often more attractive than the reality.
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>>31111264
no. sex-havers want to trick into that being a virgin is lame because nutting inside a chick is the most impressionable shit they every did in their entire life
>>31111422
mainly this
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>>31111264
Isaac Newton
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>>31111264
If it's not bothering you, it's not bad. That's all there is to it, really. Some people may be an ass to you about it, but what aren't people an ass about?
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>>31114962
Is it any better than just masturbation with fleshlights or similar stuff?
>>31115183
> the most impressionable shit they every did in their entire life
Well, I haven't done anything impressionable yet, and I don't know if I even capable of doing that. I have no special talents or skills, and raising them might require the rest of my life and even after that I would be able to produce just some amateur low-level crap. How do I know if "sex-havers" are wrong?
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Jerking off does not "fill the gaps" of lacking a sex life.
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>>31111264
No, it's not possible to live like that because it causes severe (and expensive) problems later in life. Single people tend to die a lot earlier than non-single people. It's very unlikely for someone like you to live past 65, and that's assuming you don't commit suicide before then.
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>>31111264
I feel regret for missing out on tons of things in my life. Anxiety has controlled me. It's so hard to get over it. I'm scared. I don't really see myself living to 35. I wouldn't be surprised if i die by suicide or some accident. I've started trying to slowly put myself in more adrenaline inducing situations. Taking more risks. I'm poor, so i don't have a lot of money. If i had more, i would probably travel around and just live on the edge of society. Right now, i can't see myself living a normal life. I resent my parents and the situation i grew up in. I've had suicide ideation since i was about 12 years old. My anxiety is 1000 times worse than it has ever been in my life. I don't know if it means i'm close to beating it, or close to death.
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>>31111264
Nah it's cool to be bitchless.
But that whole no goals, no ambitions thing can get you depression, so be a bit careful about it.

>>31111422
>You'll regret everything you do and don't do
Regret is subjective and optional, simply choose to be cool with what you've done. That's how I solve my regret.
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>>31113752
Relax. Sure you won't square up to a professional Buddhist, but it shouldn't be that hard to outdo the tourists and posers, and at that point you're Buddhist enough for it to count
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>>31111554
Buddhism or Vedanta, maybe. I don't really know.
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>>31118559
How should I force myself into finding a gf and/or having sex just to have presumably longer life?
>>31118617
> But that whole no goals, no ambitions thing can get you depression, so be a bit careful about it.
Well, for 25 years of my whole life I couldn't figure out the goals and ambitions in my life. How do I know if I'm even capable to do it? I don't have all the time in the world to try everything even in bit by bit: I'm not a NEET, I have a job to do.
>>31118629
> but it shouldn't be that hard to outdo the tourists and posers
Outdo in what exactly?
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>>31111264
I don't know, I have no clue how I got here, 26 here. Got some very heavy bullying thanks to a cleft lip surgery scar, so I had my entire confidence and self steem destroyed in childhood. Entered teenage years with some serious traumas and no access to psychological help, had to eat it up and go around with it. Had a few female friends nonetheless in school and later in college, but never got any chance at dating. College is over, I am past the age of the avg student, my proffession is filled with way older people and I have nobody else, no friends, never had a partner. I cared about the sex when I was young like everyone here and filled with hormones, but now I am just sad because of the loneliness more than anything else. Suicidal since 12, I honestly believe one day on my 30's near 40's I will lose all hope and in a drunk state will probably hang myself. Nothing to do with your post, just wanted to share it.
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>>31111264
-_-

You're gonna be fine OP.
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OP considering that this website forgot about Ryan's thread tells me it's okay either way.
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This place is schizoid central
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>>31118680
I'm counting on that.
>>31118687
> Ryan's thread
What was that? And happened there?
>>31118703
Well, I was diagnosed with ScPD, how do you know?
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>>31118524
sex is different to jerking off, not necessarily better or worse, but different.
if u just want to nut ASAP and thats all u care about, jerking off is the best, if you are the kind of person who likes a slower longer experience when u masturbate then u will probably REALLY like sex and its much better than some long jerk off sesh.
sometimes yeah u just want to nut then go play a game, hang out with a mate, whatever, and sex is kinda shitty when thats the case, when u mechanically just need to nut, especially with an actual partner not a hooker so they bitch if u just want to fuck off, but if ur there for the experience its really good and I think even afterwards just cuddling with someone is fucking great a lot of the time.

in and out in and out p in v is kinda w/e, but when your partner mixes it up with moving around in different ways, changing positions, grabbing titties, ass, and kissing, its really pretty good.
a lot of it for me is the foreplay, which I find really enjoyable, not just going straight up to pinv, I enjoy making out and getting a handjob while I rub her clit, I enjoy when she feels too good after that and u can see her squirming so u go to the side, slide a finger in, keep kissing, and just have her convulse under you and buck against you as you bring her to orgasm, or you when you nut early so you eat her out and she squirms against you and squeezes your head
then you fuck and its great
the p in v parts of sex are by no means bad, but if ur just looking for sheer amount of stimulation and pleasure then yeah masturbation is better, but the whole experience and the time with it is just fucking amazing.

sex is great, but its also a bit of a let down because the actual sex isn't some mindblowing thing, its the other things that are really great

go fuck a hooker anon, makes ur masturbation better when u remember the experience and jerk off to it spontaneously instead of porn, it feels really sweet and the memories are great
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>>31119932
In my case it's something in between: most of the time I "just want to nut ASAP", but sometimes I do enjoy long jerk off sessions.
> go fuck a hooker
That's gonna be as difficult as just finding a partner to fuck: prostitution is illegal in our country, so there's a huge chance of getting scammed, robbed and/or beaten up by some bandits.
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>>31120308
yeah im from Australia so its very different, completely legal, can walk into completely legal brothels, look online, whatever.

I very much broadened my horizons trying a lot of different types of women and different styles because of them and all for not that bad of a cost.
turns out I quite enjoy a lot of bdsm stuff, both being a sub and having stuff to me, and domming a girl, but I don't particularly like being that rough with a girl.
great experiences doing the first two, but felt a bit weird after the last
When it happened I had hired this one pros at a brothel when I was in canberra for a thing, spent all up $850 AUD on her ($550ish usd) to fuck her for 2 hours, choke her, slap her, spank her, put her up on those cross things, used a vibe to bring her orgasm and continued and she just screamed. I didn't want to try using whips or canes but she offered it, went from some rough fucking and some choking, slapping, and hair pulling while I fucked her and then spanking her, putting her on the thing, and being rough with her while I recovered only to fuck her again and then chat for a bit at the end.
walked me out, told me she thought it was great, that I should come again, and said I should use the whip next time and hit her harder, I nutted twice, but fuck it felt weird.
Can't think of another way I would have really easily tested out and figured out that yeah I really don't like hitting women or being very rough with them and its not just me being afraid of repercussions or anything, just genuinely doesn't do anything for them

not a cheap price, but she was definitely more expensive than most and I was there for 2 hours, plenty of places have girls for like $250 aud an hr to just fuck them ($160 usd) and lots even cheaper if ur willing to go with really trashy (and a bit sketchy)

if you ever travel anywhere out of your country, make sure you look up the legality of where u are, maybe its legal and u can give it a go.
Its pretty great.
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>>31120553
Thanks for those long descriptions of your experience, though it might not be very useful for me, because I'm living in a big bad land on an another continent (not China), and I don't know is there's even a choice in "different types of women and different styles", so I can't relate.
And should I really throw myself into sex tourism just to experience something greater than fap?
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>>31121285
I want to say to you nah don't worry about it
but I think like many people, me included, its one of those situations that you wonder about and it eats away at you even if people tell u its not that big of a deal, not that good, doesn't matter, whatever, but you can't have that thoughts or ideas on it until you experience it for yourself and can go yeah, its really no big deal, jerking off is fine and you really don't have to have sex, its nbd.

I don't really deal with prostitutes much beyond a bit of an addiction after a little bit
went my first time to one, it was okay, but didn't really think about it and it was a very impromptu thing I just went one day when I had a few hours break.
went again a few months later with a girl who was more my style and it was way better
went once more about 6 months after the first time and it was kinda shitty, but by this point I was a bit more open and willing to go, within the next 6 months, so in a year total, I had seen 16 different prostitutes, many of which I went to multiple times and tried different things, but the just "I want to fuck RIGHT NOW" and being able to indulge that was extremely addictive to me, I very much had situations where it was like I was out doing something, finished up early, did I really want to just go home and like what, keep reading whatever book? watch a movie? play a game? nah I wanted more from someone, so id look up who was at the brothels near me (which by this point I knew them all and had tried them out) or see who was doing private advertisements, some hottie for whats only a few hours work, and go rail her, maybe its one I had seen before and would get a booking to lock it in, maybe id never met them before so id just show up and meet them and if I didn't like em I could fuck off, I even enjoyed asking them questions when I was there
imagine a parade of attractive (well most are) women coming into a private room, in sexy lingerie, and having a conversation about what they
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>>31121285
>>31121368
about what they can do for you and their services as well as what you like, I very much enjoyed just how novel it was
personally, I really like pubic hair for example, not a deal breaker for me if they are clean shaven or anything, but I do really like it, at first it felt a bit weird to ask really specific questions and I would kind of just ask generally about what services they offered, how much stuff was exactly from them and so on.
eventually though I just was upfront about stuff.
Can I do X, do you do Y, what about Z, can you do just X and Y for $C because I don't want M and shit like that, and honestly, the pubic hair question really got me fucking off and I loved it, just asking these women directly if they have pubic hair and just getting straight up responses about it, many would even just straight up show me
not to mention the literally just meeting someone then fucking them immediately being an easily accessible trivial thing I could do, no work, no build up, just show up, if I like em, il fuck em, otherwise nah, was a real rush.

Now its not really my thing that much, sure il go occasionally if the mood strikes, but its more of a "special occasion" thing for me.
I went to melbourne for a card game tournament earlier this year, fucked prostitute both nights I was there, it was a trip, fucking whores was apart of the vacation and a vacation expense kind of thing.
Had a job interview in sydney and had to make a day trip up, im not driving for no reason, packed in some extra clothes, grabbed food at a nice place, fucked a hooker, went home, was a good day.
visited some relatives for a wedding in QLD, wedding was in fairly central brisbane, on the way back from the reception looked up some nearby brothels and found one who had a few hotties, stopped by, was great.

If you take a trip for some other reason, then yeah, you should if its easy/legal there, but don't make a trip just for that, sex tourism seems like a bit of a let down imo
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>>31113758
What mental illness is this? OCD?
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>>31111264
>Is living and dying as a no-GF virgin that bad?
Nah. I've seen plenty of married people live miserable lives and that's not even taking into account those who couldn't even stay together with their partners.
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>>31121368
> you can't have that thoughts or ideas on it until you experience it for yourself
If I can't "experience it" for myself right now, the what should I do with those thoughts or ideas, if they could eat me away?
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>>31122233
fuck an illegal prostitute then anon
im sure u can find some, they are everywhere all over the world

otherwise sort it out and find some easy bitch to fuck, at a bar, party, whatever, not really other choices are there? either get someone interested, or pay them.
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>>31122291
But at the same time I can't jerk off because I like sex so I should have sex no matters what? I don't get it.
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>>31111264
Yes. This is an entirely new attitude and none of it is well-meaning or organic. You are being wiped out. All roads lead to the same outcome: White Extinction
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>>31121405
What are the good location ones in the big AUS cities?

Is it better to go there or them going to your house? Which ones more awkward?


Also should i be worried bout catching anything like herpes?

I'm turning 30 this year...
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>>31111264
Its somethin, its somethin. Youre somethin. You know that?
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>>31125127
I don't know of what "something" are you talking about.
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>>31123025
The White race is already extinct, you go back and look at art history when the pink pigment was started to be used to depict whites.
Once whites were painted as white and have progressively painted more pink over the centuries.
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>>31123025
Not sure, I'm a spic and I have the same issue
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>>31121882
Paranoid Schizophrenia actually.
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>>31111264
no
>t. someone who lives this lifestyle
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>>31123025
White Women turned on White Men so White Men chose Asian or AI girlfriends while White Women get ran through and lusted after by 3rd worlders and minorities. Sucks to suck.
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>>31130212
Why? Do you somehow suffer from this lifestyle? And why do you suffer?
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>>31111456
people justify the grass being greener on the other side because their side isn't working for them
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get a dog

or something
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>>31130884
But I don't justify that people in relationships has better life than me. I know for sure that relationships, love, family and other related things are FUBAR in our country, so I don't have to suffer for the same things other non-single or actively searching people do.
>>31130884
I already have one, so what?
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>Why?
You get use to being alone and when you aren't you realize how peaceful it is, when you are alone you have to become friends with yourself, and when you do a lot of that negative self-talk stops.
>Do you somehow suffer from this lifestyle?
No, not really, its peaceful. The one thing about solitude is that over time it becomes addictive and people you stop responding to, to pursue your own happiness and peacefulness will get you a lot hatred and seethe from once friends who consider you "selfish" because they can't get w/e socialization or w/e they are using you for out of you anymore. It made me realize that a lot of extroverted people aren't really your friends, they are just around to sap energy from you, they ignore your boundaries, and them wanting to hang out with you is ultimately self-serving. So when you turn around and start to serve your own interests, to them its like some great betrayal and they start all this drama bullshit, so I just cut them out of my life.
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>>31132666
Alright, Satan, I get it. What if I'm not totally all alone? I have a social job and a group of friends, but I don't plan to expand it, because everyone around me are pretty fine about me being who I am. Will I go on like but without gfs and sex?
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>>31118524
>Is it any better than just masturbation with fleshlights or similar stuff?
not really, the cool thing is you don't have to do it yourself. So i guess it's fun for laziness. That's why i love bj the most. But being in relationship you have to pleasure each other which is not that fun. Better to just jerk off
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>>31111264
I've had my heart broken many times, and although I usually say that it was worth it (because of the memories), I'm not entirely sure, you know. It's always at the back of my head 'was it really worth it?'.

Every single significant relationship you forge, shapes you in a determinant, unchangeable way.

If I were you, I'd fuck around and find out.
Better get as much experience as you can in this game of life.



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