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I just want to cheat on my wife once, maybe twice, with an asian whore. Is that so wrong? Just one sordid raceplay encounter with a tiny gook choking on my cock, and then back to being a loving husband to my wife. Dammit why can't I stop thinking about using asian women's faces as cum receptacles.
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>>31119604
you should probably stop looking at porn, bud
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>>31119604
Guys like you are why I don't date.
>>31121034
This.
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>>31119604
yeah that's wrong, you going to let her cheat too? Open up the relationship or divorce her, no need to be a shitty retard about your desires.
Sounds like your marriage is already over though, ask her for a threeway
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>>31121152
I'll date you, are you asian?
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>>31119604
this is the kind of people who get married while you’re aline masturbating at futanari doujinshi on a saturday night
>>31121152
>I don’t date because of some asshole that I can avoid easily if i look at obvious red flags hehehehe
Imagine living on easy mode (aka being female) and still rejecting the opportunity god gave to you. Enjoy dying alone, roastie OR start dating, be selective and find a man that can actually be happy (also stop browsing 4chan, is a place for mentally ill men, not for mentally ill women)
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>>31121208
No.

>>31121225
I want a guy who isn't pornsick and won't cheat on me. Unfortunately this rules out 95% of men therefore I won't date. Seeing what men think and talk about on this website has ruined my opinion of them too. All of you are evil, you've got evil thoughts and you don't value or respect your partners. You think life should be a porn fantasy and you will betray your supposed loved ones to make your penises feel good for a few minutes. It's disgusting.
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>>31121252
TLDR tranny
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>>31121252
>>31121264
I am so lonely I will take a transvestite wife to cook for me while I provide for my family.
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>>31119604
I am married with children. I got around a lot before my wife who is as chaste as they come. I miss fucking whores and find myself thinking about it more frequently. I love my life and always will and she has been so good to me so I refrain from these feelings as best I can
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>>31121305
OP here, I know exactly what you mean. When I was a young fuckboy I was slamming all types of pussy. Definitely had a thing for asians, had some great times with Chinese and Korean girls.

That's the part that fucks me up. I love my wife with all my heart. And my penis loves her too. But my penis also misses those small yellow pussies. I miss those high pitched moans and squeals, I miss choking out those tiny little yellow sluts. God I just want to cum right across an asian's slanty eyes so badly, no emotion or anything. Just raw hard fucking and nutting right on her face. If they'd let me record it for future viewing, even better. Of course I try to channel all that energy into fucking my wife. But the fantasies still linger. I've woken up stiff as hell having vivid dreams of bringing an asian woman home for a NSA tryst.

I honestly hate how frequent and intense these fantasies are. I wonder if actually living them out with make them go away or make it worse.
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>>31121252
>you will betray your supposed loved ones
That's rich coming from a woman.
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>>31121777
nice dig, Women will leave a man when they do not gain anything from them.
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>>31121906
why do you hate women so much? Women can be great. My wife is great, she loves me so much and only has eyes for me. She has no interest in other men.

I honestly hate that I can't stop thinking about sex with other women, in particular asians. My attraction to asians has been unfortunately noticed by her, now she feels threatened by asian women in a sense. God if she found all the asian porn on my computer I'd be so fucked.
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>>31121912
every woman I have been with has cheated on me, I don't hate women, I hate what they are capable of.
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>>31122149
typical nice guy who can't fuck hard gets cheated on. many such cases. try not being a dicklet in the next life.
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>>31119604
>I just want to cheat on my wife
kys

>>31121225
>Imagine living on easy mode (aka being female) and still rejecting the opportunity god gave to you. Enjoy dying alone, roastie
You're not helping your case
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>>31119604
All the Asian whores I've visited ask if I'm married. They almost seem disappointed when I say no. Why is that?
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>>31121252
>All of you are evil, you've got evil thoughts and you don't value or respect your partners
Wait until marriage and you filter out both the incels and the degenerates like OP.

If you want a fun experiment, just claim that you're waiting until marriage as a woman (don't respond to the one or two guys who ask for contacts out of desperation), that you won't compromise on it, and ask how to find a guy who will wait for you.
You will get two distinct groups of angry replies:
1. The incels who just start insulting you, complaining about "Chad" and how you don't give the incels a chance.
2. The manwhores with hot pants, like OP. They can't conceive of controlling their sexual impulses, and will get angry if it's suggested that porn or casual sex aren't good things. They'll say stuff like "no way am I sticking around for a bitch who won't put out, fuck you".

Over time, you'll learn to spot these types of dudes extremely fast.
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>>31122537
it's like a preapproved mortgage. if youre a winner in life, bankers and real estate agents will be up your ass trying to sell you a house. If you're some brokie rentoid, they want nothing to do with you.

If youre married, at least one woman thought you were enough of a winner to marry. Women need preapproval from other women. Basically, fucking a married man who's sex drive is so high his wife alone cant sate him is thrilling and exciting. He can probably fuck good and knows how to make a woman cum. In comparison fucking some single guy who can't get laid is just another day on the job. Boring.

>>31122567
Hotpants OP reporting. Honestly I'll never understand waiting for marriage. That shit is for incels, religious nuts and third world hellholes. Would you buy a car without test driving or checking under the hood? Only a moron would.
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>yet another yellow fever thread
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>>31119604
it has a pussy but it isn't a nigga
weird shirt

anyways op you should kill yourself
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>>31119604
>Just one sordid raceplay encounter with a tiny gook choking on my cock, and then back to being a loving husband to my wife.
oh for sure. maybe just try heroin once and only once while you do it. just to check it off the list
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>>31121751
It’s the fucking worst man. I hate the feelings and have really tried to control myself as best I can. I have broke in this and have been to Latina massage parlors. I’m not proud of it and hate when I do it but I really enjoyed them. I don’t recommend it at all. I do it probably about once a year then hate myself forever for it and then get horny again where I need my fix and do it again. I’m still fit and am pretty good looking. I’ve always been attractive to women since late hs and I just miss the attention and conquest. It’s an obvious ego thing and I need to stop doing this. There is no rationalization for it. I just miss fucking whores. Knowing how bad most guys are these days too makes it even worse. I hear the stats all day about how most young guys can’t even get regular sex and I know I would fucking slaughter pussy f I was in their shoes. I also work with attractive women regularly but I refuse to go to that level. I don’t mean to rationalize any of my actions because I’m not but obviously paying for a service is different from having an actual affair. I just need my fix sometimes and I fucking hate myself for it but I need it. I know virgins on here will go crazy and call me a coomer meanwhile they jerk off into a tissue 15 times a day and complain about how no girl is interested in them. I just wish I didn’t have this
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>>31121252
Retard fell for polbait just like incels did. Cant cure stupid I suppose.
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>>31123864
... Fuck man. Really puts shit into perspective. Good analogy.

>>31123996
The fact that you sound very similar to me and don't recommend it is giving me the strength to say "No" to tiny gook pussy. Fucking yellow crack man.
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>>31123758
I just need to kill my yellow fever. Then I can finally be free.
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>>31123996
>>31121751

Here’s the thing lads. I’ve been in your shoes – been together with my wife for over 10 years. Something hit me when I hit my 30s, got a lot more attention from women, felt the call of the wild or whatever. I was in this relationship before Tinder and dating apps took hold. Had plenty of casual sex way back when the only option was going out to the club, meeting girls and doing it on hard mode. Over time I saw from my friends how much easier the apps made finding casual sex. I figured I’d just see what it was like and it was actually mindblowing how easy it was to get laid with a few decent photos and some rusty conversation game I hadn’t used since 2012. I went nuts. My work is pretty flexible and pays well so it was easy enough to hide from the wife.

Did this for about 2 years. It turned me into a complete addict. Something has drastically changed in society due to these apps. It made me question a lot of things I had assumed about women and relationships, and the value of even being married at all. Had I been born about 5 years later, I doubt I’d even be able to form a functioning relationship. Instead I’d probably be short-circuiting everything to sex and moving onto the next thing. The technology has hijacked the way our brains are wired and people are getting sucked into the apps. I worry for people who straight up just hate the opposite sex, or haven’t had a relationship last more than a year as a result.
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>>31125002 cont.

So yeah fucking sluts on the side is incredible. It’s not easy to put that toothpaste back in the tube, though. Do it enough and your core being will change. You’ll question your marriage and everything you’ve worked toward up to this point. No such thing as just fucking one gook then everything falling back into place. I came full circle after thinking about all the time I’d wasted. I could have been doing something productive, improving myself. Instead I let the pursuit of sex consume me. Therein lies the real waste of time. The risk you take is that you utterly fuck your life up before you come to the same conclusion.

A further note: This is a shitty forum to discuss these things in but it’s the best anonymous place I know of. Plenty of people default to cheaters get the rope or reactionary Christfaggotry garbage. Reddit becomes a holier than thou shitstorm as soon as cheating is mentioned. We need more places where we can actually talk about this stuff and not get shut down because it’s an issue that can completely derail peoples’ lives.
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>>31125002
Curious how old are you? I know what you mean, hitting 30s all of a sudden you are sexually viable to so many more women. I'm 32 now and some part of me feels like I'm wasting my sexual potential being in a committed relationship at this age. I daydream about gallivanting around through Asia destroying fresh pussy on the weekly. I actually learned a lot of Japanese from my younger weeb days, I know I'd be able to crush easily in Japan and live that gaijin fuckboy lifestyle. I dunno if I could really marry an asian and have an asian kid though. My family would probably find it weird as fuck if my wife could barely speak english lol.

Fuck man on one hand I hate watching porn at all, but part of me thinks it prevents me from cheating. I try to keep it infrequent as possible. You guys seem serious about warning that actually cheating is like a pandora's box.
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>>31119604
You so horny. Bonk.
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>>31125037
I'm 34. Forget weekly, I know guys out in Hong Kong / Tokyo who are crushing daily. Pandora's box is exactly right.

If you want that life then you know what you need to do. It will be fleeting. Or do you want to share your life with someone and build a relationship for the long term? You can do that too.

It's not that fucking hard but you can only do one. I made the mistake of trying to do both and even if you don't get caught that will fuck you up internally.
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>>31124532
Yeah man I mean the feeling when you’re fucking a latina whore on a massage table is fucking great but goddamn did I feel like such a piece of shit. I just constantly thought about what is my wife doing what if she needs me and I’m balls deep in this whore. It was the greatest worst experience of my life. I have restrained myself tho lately but I feel it just coming on more and more. I see that’s happening to you so just know that it isn’t worth it. It takes a piece of my soul every time.
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>>31125002
Holy shit. This is what I fear most, I know I would be you. Multiple times I have almost gone on the apps to try it out but thankfully I live in a place where I would definitely be found out. Also I’m under 30. Thanks for this post man, I needed to read this. I got with my wife right before the app craze started too. Over time I just kept seeing my friends, some either got no action at all and others were fucking another chick every week. It was unbelievable. Even just through that I started questioning everything about my life and marriage. Thankfully I’ve been at the bottom of this thought process already.

The real red pill for me was talking to one friend and seeing how miserable he was. All of my friends over time basically admitted to me that I have it made and it’s impossible to find a good chick. This really opened my eyes and brought me back to when I was fucking whores all the time and how soulless and miserable I was. Again it was the greatest but the worst at the same time because it is soul draining not having a meaningful relationship with a girl. On the reverse having sex with one woman is also tough and gets somewhat monotonous or sometimes she doesn’t even want to have sex. I just wish there was a good way to balance things to keep my ego and sexual desire in check without hurting my wife. The answer is simply just self control which I’m losing rapidly
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>>31125006
>it’s not easy to put that toothpaste back in the bottle
lol I can’t imagine it would be
>you utterly fuck your life up before you come to the same conclusion
Yep.
>we need more places like this to talk about this
There never will be. Most guys aren’t able to get married these days let alone be able to fuck anything they want. Then you have the bulk of double digit IQ moralizers who go on any of these forums and instantly condemn you if you talk about cheating. I wish I could talk about this more to try to understand it better so I can ultimately stop. Thankfully there is usually one thread on here like this one that can be good
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>>31125037
I fucking hate jerking off to and frequently dream about the same thing of just going wild somewhere like LA or Miami and fucking every slut I can find. I’ve only dipped my toes in with shitty massage parlor girls. It’s nice because I’m the first not fat old guy they’re fucking so they give me that fucking attention and compliments I love to get. I’m glad I didn’t go as far as the other anon though. I knew I was playing with fire but realized that paying for it and needing to go to sketchy places likely known by the police will keep me in check. Getting on dating apps is like a shot of heroin in the veins. This shit is Pandora’s box tho. Keep it closed. I shouldn’t say this to but if you’re not an idiot, you find it’s very very very easy to cheat which makes it all even worse. I’ve only realized that total retards get caught cheating. If you are diligent and a bit of a schizo so thinking 10 moves in advance you won’t get caught.
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>>31125152
I want that life, what do I need to do?
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>>31126268
If you have to ask then it’s not for you
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Kill yourself
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>>31121252
Most guys are "pornsick" (i.e. not insanely repressed) but will not cheat on you.
Wanting to share in pleasure with someone is not an "evil thought", and there is literally nothing we value more than our partners. And for the record, while men cheat on women more *overall*, women cheat on men more prior to the menopause.
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>>31122519
kys, can't fuck hard if I never tried. I am far from nice.
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>>31121252
We're exposed to porn from like 10 years old, and we need some form of sexual relief - not that I expect a woman to have any kind of empathy for male sexuality.
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>>31126872
Women are not anywhere close to being the same as men—the struggles they have are far different from ours. They can not fathom us being so different, part of the blame is on this whole progressive, "women and men are equal"
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>>31126920
I fully agree the “men are the same as women” story that I’ve seen trotted out by supposedly progressive thinkers has done a lot of damage. Our brains are literally structured differently.

Current discussion of male sexuality rarely goes beyond “men want to fuck anything that moves” and quite frequently “all men are trash” as a conclusion. It’s true that male domination has led to shitty outcomes for women like hijab wearing, sexual exploitation, and becoming societally invisible once they’re no longer sexually of value.

It’s also true that, like you say, women can’t fathom the male struggle to containing his sexual urges. This is hardwired into us. Caught somewhere between our evolutionary cousins bonobos and chimps: Our limbic system tells us to climb social hierarchies, fuck the most fertile women possible and mate-guard. Our prefrontal cortex, more recently evolved, screams back at us to listen to our social conditioning and empathise with women who might feel betrayed by our actions.

We can see this battle taking place in these discussions that crop up now and then. As a species are we going to evolve more cooperatively and empathically or are apps and technology going to take us into a more anarchic future?

I’m beginning to agree with sapolsky that “free will” is a myth and we are much less in control of our sexual behaviour than we think.
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>>31127162
Well said anon
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>>31119604
For the lips of the adulterous woman drip honey,
and her speech is smoother than oil;
but in the end she is bitter as gall,
sharp as a double-edged sword.
Her feet go down to death;
her steps lead straight to the grave.
She gives no thought to the way of life;
her paths wander aimlessly, but she does not know it.
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>>31127533
Now then, my sons, listen to me;
do not turn aside from what I say.
Keep to a path far from her,
do not go near the door of her house,
lest you lose your honor to others
and your dignity to one who is cruel,
lest strangers feast on your wealth
and your toil enrich the house of another.
At the end of your life you will groan,
when your flesh and body are spent.
You will say, “How I hated discipline!
How my heart spurned correction!
I would not obey my teachers
or turn my ear to my instructors.
And I was soon in serious trouble
in the assembly of God’s people.”


Drink water from your own cistern,
running water from your own well.
Should your springs overflow in the streets,
your streams of water in the public squares?
Let them be yours alone,
never to be shared with strangers.
May your fountain be blessed,
and may you rejoice in the wife of your youth.
A loving doe, a graceful deer—
may her breasts satisfy you always,
may you ever be intoxicated with her love.
Why, my son, be intoxicated with another man’s wife?
Why embrace the bosom of a wayward woman?
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>>31127533
>>31127541
Pretty based. Thanks.
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>>31125006
>We need more places where we can actually talk about this stuff and not get shut down because it’s an issue that can completely derail peoples’ lives.
Yep. I agree.
I'm in a very unique spot on that I am cheater with no regrets who never once questioned that cheating is wrong.
I've been thinking about the nature of cheating for years at this point.

Btw...
>>31119604
>I just want to cheat on my wife once, maybe twice, with an asian whore. Is that so wrong?
Wanting to isn't wrong at all. I never kinkshame or condemn someone for a desire.
Actually cheating is always wrong, in every case. It is definitively a wrong action.
Furthermore, I would say that cheating includes any act that you wouldn't do with your partner's knowledge. That's my perspective.
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>>31121280
What family? Faggot
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Genocide all scrotoids. Calling a scrote an animal is a compliment to him and an insult to animals. GENOCIDE ALL SCROTES. The Y chromossome is a defect. Scrotoids are satan
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>>31119604
Women get to have periods and we accommodate them but they don't believe us when we say we can have extracurricular activities and still be loving to them
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>>31129124
Those two things are not comparable, anon.
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>>31119604
men cheat with their dick, women cheat with their heart. you could meet a woman on the street today, fuck her, shake her hand, never see her again, then go back home to your wife and love her just as much as you did before.

As Westerners, especially Americans, we live in a very Puritannical society.

In Japan for example, prostitution generally isn't considered cheating.
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>>31121777
>>31121906
men are in love, women are in business. they can't help it that's just the way the are. gotta love them regardless
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>>31119604
This thread understands how I feel but my wife is also into asian girls and we’ve been trying to set up a three-way if maybe a third person into our life, that’s an asian chick.
Long story short:
>wife used to be in a lesbian relationship with a Korean chick
>Miss being around girls like that
>I used mess around with a Japanese, and talk about how fun they’re
>We’re both in an agreement to try to find our dream Asian girl

Our only problem is, we don’t know where to look. The apps are complete ass, and and the only type of girl we run into are redneck fat white girls, and monkey, looking fat black girls. Really hoping someone here can actually give us some good tits on bagging an asian.
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>>31129798
America is puritanical and so is the west in general but before the modern feminist era it was pretty normal to cheat on your wife.
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>>31129948
No. Rates of infidelity spiked among boomers, and that was in line with the sexual "revolution", not some kind of trad norm. Nothing whatsoever to do with supposed pre-feminist morals.
Male infidelity was often more common than it is now, but even the highest rates of cheating we've recorded were at around 60% (and this is from the ridiculously biased Kinsey "studies"). More representative data, from the General Social Survey, has rates maxing out under 30%. Even if you want to claim social desirability bias on those figures, it's a stretch to pretend that a similar number of people are liars--and if people were motivated to hide infidelity, then that shows you it was hardly an accepted norm.

tl;dr
Don't pretend that you're anything but a disloyal degenerate.
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>>31129996
I agree with you that the boomers were the real harbingers of infidelity for both genders but we are talking about a time before studies date and surveys. Pre boomers time it was relatively normal for a husband to have a mistress. I’m not comparing them to now or even the boomers I’m just saying it was a common thing of the times like it really always has been. Modern times are incomparable to any other time period we are living in peak degeneracy of course.
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>>31129720
How are they not comparable? Both are gender based biological hormonal activities that affect your decision making
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>>31121252
>I want a guy who isn't pornsick and won't cheat on me.
Literally all you have to do is stop withholding sex and lower your inflated standards and ego.
They'll value you when you have something to offer. Stop being a selfish, entitled bitch.
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>>31127162
>male domination has led to shitty outcomes for women like hijab wearing, sexual exploitation, and becoming societally invisible
>hijab wearing
Oh my fauci, how terrible!?!? A cloth covering your face???
>Sexual exploitation
WOAWZERS MEN WANT SEX?!?!? THATS LE BAD
>Becoming societally invisible
Get a load of this cunt. Women actually think they know what it's like to be invisible KEEEEEK
Even the worst crackhead women aren't invisible, and are given preferential treatment over equal counterparts of men.
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I want o cheat on my wife too it’s so hard with all of these slurs walking around
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>>31131855
One is unwillingly enduring a monthly affliction involving often emotionally upending biological sloughing of voluminous discharge accompanied by painful cramping and debilitating symptoms.
The other is chosing to indulge in one of most pleasurable activities imaginable.

I'm not saying that baby batter brain isn't an issue. But they're not comparable.
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>>31132808
Fortunately, calling them slurs will probably keep them from sexoing you.
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>>31132844
I’m not going to do it but I just miss it.
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>>31119604
read this

https://www.themotte.org/post/853/wellness-wednesday-for-january-31-2024/184200?context=8#context
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>>31119604
just kill yourself you pathetic faggot
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get that picture of Angel Chaeyoung off this disgusting, disgusting post. no girl like her or any girl of any self-respect would even make eye contact with you. ur wife will leave u soon enough anyway, so good luck
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>>31119604
Prostitutes don't really count as cheating
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>>31121252
The fact that this post got moids all butthurt is telling.
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cheating defeats the entire point of a monogamous relationship

if you have a conscious the guilt will tear you up for betraying the trust of your partner and one of the closest people in your life

if these are serious desires you wish to act on you should examine the foundations of your marriage and who you are as a person. feelings of attraction may be natural even in your situation but lust less so, and keeping a complete picture in mind should settle the matter and not make it that difficult. If you go out with the intent to cheat, it's unforgivable in my book. If it "happens on accident" and "one thing leads to another" its much the same but at least more understandable.
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>>31133692
As someone who has cheated I agree with this post. Except for the accident part. You have the choice you just chose wrong and you know it intent or not.

I will forever regret the things that I’ve done and it has been soul crushing but the natural decline of our sex life because of children and work is also soul crushing. The realization of cheating post nut is the worst. I fucked myself tho by banging many sluts in my younger years so it just left me with those depraved desires. My wife is very chaste and I simply can’t imagine her as one of these whores that I loved to fuck in my past.

I am beyond it now though and just remember to keep my priorities straight for the sake of my children. It is extremely tough at times especially these days but I know I have to stay strong for my family.
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>IF I GET CAUGHT CHEATING
>THAT DON'T MEAN I DON'T LOVE YOU

>I KNOW I KNOW
>YOU AIN'T GON' LET
>ONE LITTLE FUCK
>FUCK ALL THIS UP
>ONE MISTAKE
>THROW ALL THIS AWAY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGHlJRFMjmM
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>>31133640
>The fact that this post got moids all butthurt is telling.
NT but telling what, pretentious faggot?
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>>31121751
Then why didn't you marry an asian?
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>>31133864
It's telling that simply asking for a man who isn't obsessed with porn and won't cheat on you is beyond the capabilities of 4chan losers and the idea of being a decent, moral man personally offends them.
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>>31133886
I don't actually love or want to marry an asian. I just want to use them as tiny slanty eyed fuck dolls that make high pitched squeals and moans when you fuck them. It's purely animalistic, I just want to fuck them for sport. I don't think I could ever love one the way I love my wife.

I never really liked any of the asian women I fucked in the past as "people", but I did enjoy fucking the shit out of them and those squeals they made while I bulldozed them. It's those high pitched noises they make during sex. Some people find the noises the girls make in Japanese porn a boner kill. For me it's like a shot of viagra infused blood straight to my dick.

There's a difference between sex and love. That's what I'm getting at. I love my wife and do love sex with her. But it's not like being with an asian, and sometimes I crave something different.
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>>31133565
>actually knowing the names of these slant whores.

that whore in OP has probably been slathered in the cum of hundreds of men, guaranteed none are asian. Most Korean women hate Korean men but will line up to time share white and black men.
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>>31133955
rent free
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>>31133934
See how unnatural that looked... yucky ewwww
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>>31133955
Fax. The only Korean I know has a white dad
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>>31133934
>there’s a difference between sex and love
Absolutely. Most will never understand this. This is no justification for cheating but there is a clear difference between a man’s sexual desire and love. The demons only come out when the inevitable need for a man’s particular urge rears its nasty head. The pain is felt most by the man who has had his fair share of women in his day.
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>>31133955
>meet Korean woman
>within 2 minutes she's voluntarily shitting on Korean men to me

the girls are NOT alright
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>>31134119
You just know the mind of this man is absolutely broken
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>>31125152
>I know guys out in Hong Kong / Tokyo who are crushing daily.
Visiting there after beginning to struggle in the US, and it's a night and day difference. Now I don't even want to bother in the US now that I've seen how it is on the other side
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>>31133902
>>31133640
Ah. That wasn't my issue with the post. I felt it lacked an appreciation for the nuance of actual reality.
But I generally don't engage with posters that argue by stating that they understand every member of an entire gender, that they're all the same, and that most all of them are to be hated and vilified. Incel-tier posts are disgusting.

To be clear, your two here were alright.
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>>31133692
>cheating defeats the entire point of a monogamous relationship
True. It's not the only thing that does.
But abandoning the relationship with the person you love isn't as easy as recognizing that the point of the relationship has been rendered moot.

>if you have a conscious the guilt will tear you up for betraying the trust of your partner and one of the closest people in your life
You would think so. I still don't feel remotely guilty. And I feel guilty for forgetting to bring home ice cream.

But for most cheaters this is probably spot on.
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>>31134119
The Korean I used to slam could rant for an hour straight about how much she hated Korean men. Used to have to tell her to stop cause it was boring.

I'm a black guy in Toronto. She used to want to sit down in a public bench right in the heart of Koreatown, and obnoxiously tongue kiss in public where she knew hundreds of Korean guys would see us. Clearly she got off on tongueing down a black guy right in front of Korean men. After that we'd almost always go straight to her condo and have obnoxious, loud sex. And again, the building was almost entire Asian men.

It's fascinating just how profoundly Asian females despise their men, honestly.
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>>31134288
many, many such cases
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>>31121252
If you think 4chan represents the opinions and feelings of most men you are out of your mind. If this isn't bait you should leave this website entirely and possibly get off the internet for a while, genuinely.
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>>31134006
Korean women are whores for any non Korean lol
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>>31119604
>I just want to cheat on my wife once, maybe twice, with an asian whore. Is that so wrong?
Yes
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>>31134119
typical looksmatched white dude in 2024
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>>31133980
big white cock in asian men's minds? lol
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do white guys really get this triggered by asian men saying anything at all?
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>>31137054
>>>/gif/27087776
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>>31119604
Your wife already has cheated on you, you just don't know it.
If you think your wife "aren't like the other girls", you are either stupid or delusional.
Females are only as good as they can get away with, and these days, they can get away with cheating very easily.
If you want to cheat on her, just go ahead.
Marriage and relationship is based on self-interest in modern society, and if you are seeking common-interest when your wife is seeking self-interest, you are the worst loser.
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>>31119604
If you are going to do so, divorce her, don't be so much of a bastard to sleep with another woman and still being married to your wife.
And I'm going to tell you, you are fucking imbecile if you can't see why it is terribly wrong. You are a brainroted porn addict, so much so that it's hard to believe you are even married.
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>>31138567
this is such bad cope from moid
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>>31119604
Don't do it. Just get her to dress like an Asian lady. Asians have nice styles sometimes
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>>31138567
lol. no she hasn't. She's fucking obsessed with me and treats me like her king.
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I’m married to a cute petite maid outfit wearing South Korean. Jelly?
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>>31139524
How does a petite maid outfit wear South Korean
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>>31125037
>hitting 30s all of a sudden you are sexually viable to so many more women
My apparent SMV plummeted off a cliff after 22. At 26 I don't think I'm particularly any less attractive than at 18-21 (a time in my life where I got plenty of attention and had long-term relationships); in fact I now have an actual income, significantly better style, can drive, have deeper insights in life and my interests etc. and haven't been on a single date in 4 years. Women used to approach me on their own, now I can count the amount of fruitful conversations with previously unknown women over the past few years on one finger.
I simply cannot believe this meme about magically becoming irresistible the older one gets. Care to elaborate?
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>>31139677
nta but you're actually supposed to take care of your body
If you don't, as you get older, you're just old
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>>31139524
I'm married to a cute petite Thai, but can't get her to wear a sexy maid outfit. Any advice? Did you have to convince your wife or was she just naturally into dressing up like that?
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>>31121777
>>31121906
>>31129808
Women never have a response for these kinds of posts. I think it's less that they disagree but that they don't understand them; they can't imagine a relationship being any other way.
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>>31139799
You're saying that nothing matters if I'm not jacked?
FYI I didn't get fat or look particularly aged. I don't smoke or drink and my diet is great.
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>>31134119
>>31134883
I've noticed this too. Why do so many Asians, not just Koreans, despise their own men?
I mean, objectively, I've always thought with Asians that the women generally look fantastic while the men look like pigs. But I kind of assumed that's a racial bias and that to Asian women, their men look fine. But I've definitely noticed Asian women living abroad having a taste for white men or even black men over their own.
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>>31121751
>>31121305
I’m married and I never had any experiences like that. I only have been with my wife.
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>>31139677
Every single woman ever created by God has daddy issues. Every single woman ever prefers older men who have life experience. At 26 you are still a kid to 95% of women. Robert De Niro and Al Pacino are still getting people pregnant in their 80s. Judging from this >>31139874, you should probably start lifting. You are still young, you can make big gains.

>>31139902
Not just living abroad, ALL asian women generally prefer non-Asian men. Almost like the Asian phenotype itself is desperately attempting to mutate itself through genetic mixing with other gene pools. Foreign men who move to Asia live like kings fucking all types of pussy until their dick gets sore and raw. Almost all Asian men I know have complained that their women will fuck anyone but them. The one asian guy I know who is married literally went to Vietnam to find a wife, bring her home and spends his entire income trying to keep her happy and she still bitches him out constantly. Wouldn't be surprised if she was getting some bwc or bbc while he's at work or some shit.

For Korea in particular, it's a very unique mix of cultural fuckups from Korean men that lead to their women universally reviling them. I'm sure having the statistically smallest penises on Earth didn't exactly help.

If you really want a full breakdown, check out this vid and the part 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Im4YAMWK74

Asian men will literally make podcasts and subreddits together where they strategize how to combat "Aunty Lus" (like webm related) who are completely obsessed with non-Asian men and will demoralize, demean and insult Asian men whenever humanly possible.

I'm pretty sure Asian women will never love any man with the same level of passion with which they virulently hate Asian men lmfao.
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Also for more proof in the pudding, here's a song by Utada Hikaru, one of the most celebrated Japanese singers in the country (she was raised in NYC and so is fluent in English).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPM6zwaiXvY

She will literally wax poetic about how much she wants to mix gene pools with a Western man to the point where she's recording songs about it. Asian women deeply fetishize being impregnated by non-Asian men. Just imagine being Japanese guy looking up the lyrics to this song and realizing she's a bwc fiend lmfao.

>Can you and I start mixing gene pools?
>Eastern, western people, get naughty, multilingual

>I was sort of soul searching
>But your body's so jaw-dropping
>Our chemistry's ground breaking
>Don't keep me waiting

>Hurry up baby, hurry up baby
>Let me give you my love
>Hurry up, let's turn this room into a melting pot

This is also the woman who wrong the Kingdom Hearts lyrics "You're easy breezy and I'm Jap and easy"
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Also hilariously, Utada Hikaru, who is a superstar in Japan, married some random Italian guy who worked as a bartender lmfao.
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>>31140216
Damn, sucks to be an Asian guy then. I get it though. Like I said, I've always thought Asian girls are phenomenal creatures of beauty, while the average Asian man looks like a moon-faced, squinty-eyed fat fuck with bad hair.
Maybe it's fate that Asian girls want to go with white guys and more and more white guys are foregoing modern feminist white girls and going for cute Asian girls.
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>>31140346
also black men are dumping Tanisha for Li Mei. Asian women are learning about bbc now.
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What’s the consensus here OP? Are you going to fuck a bunch of Asian whores or refrain from your natural urges?
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>>31139928
Good on you. I don’t regret my past but sometimes wonder if I had done the same. I was just young and dumb and it left me with urges that are hard to control
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If you don't stay in control of your actions, but do let your own passions be the ones to decide in your stead, if you ignore your consciousness and what you consider good, things tend to spiral.
Pleasure and happiness are not the same thing, anon. Pleasures are something most people can find. But behind them, when pursued casting aside much more central ones, and parts of who we are, it tends to leave us in sorrow, if not in emptiness.
It tends again to spiral.

Happiness is a much brilliant, far more kind, and sober thing, friend.
The kind that carries more love, than lust. More concerned with giving, than with taking. With having peace, than inner turmoil.
I think we are far more than a body.
And love is far more precious than any of these things.

Don do anything silly. Don't give these things too much thought.

You are more than just some passing thoughts.
You can have compassion, and mercy. Sometimes it is said that it can be a way to find freedom

God loves you
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>>31119604
i cheat on my wife all the time. she suspects but cant do shit about it as a sahm with no money (no way to access mine) and i do have to travel for work so my excuses are perfect
dont feel bad about it at all. i’ve paid for her ass and taken care of her bullshit and our kids annoying asses forever. im a fucking saint that i hang around at all. guys who dont see it like this are npc aliens to me, completely feminized bots, their value is so low they cant comprehend this kind of behavior
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Do it. She's more than likely already fucking someone else. Or did in the past, anyway. Who gives a shit? Do what you like. Life is fucked and you die at the end, anyway.
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>>31142380
Holy shit.
I can't believe you actually think that this is better than actually loving and enjoying your family. You're literally retarded.
Good luck with all that cultivating unhappiness.
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>>31140927
>If you don't stay in control of your actions, but do let your own passions be the ones to decide in your stead, if you ignore your consciousness and what you consider good, things tend to spiral
>Pleasure and happiness are not the same thing
>Happiness is a much brilliant, far more kind, and sober thing
>The kind that carries more love, than lust
Ironically, this explains better than anything else I've thought of regarding why my experience has been so radically different than most cheaters.

>>31134584
>I still don't feel remotely guilty.
>>31129106
>I'm in a very unique spot on that I am cheater with no regrets who never once questioned that cheating is wrong.
I made the decision to cheat slowly, after keeping the girl at arm's length for nearly a year, developing love and affection beyond sexual desire. I acted deliberately with love in my heart and after seeking alternative paths.
I knowingly chose to take an action I believed was wrong, fully prepared to accept possible consequences. Although I have not revealed my actions, acted deceptively, and lied by omission, I have not behaved secretly, guiltily, or withdrawn.

If my wife ever simply asked me about it, I would come clean immediately. She was insecurely paranoid of me cheating for years when she had nothing to worry about. Then spent years completely ignoring me in every way. Only recently has she finally begun paying attention to me.

I have acted in love, not lust.
I have cheated with someone I care for instead of a convenient warm hole.
I have acted with deliberate forethought, not succumbing to impulsive desire. To the point of refusing sex with an amazingly sexy naked woman half my age who was eager for it.

God loves us all.
God's love can also take the form of a twisted, sexy BPD crazy masochist bitch who desperately needs loves, wants someone, and falls into self destructive obsession but cares enough to not destroy lives.
Mysterious ways indeed.

I sincerely thank you for your post.
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>>31119604
Loyalty is its own reward
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>>31143192
I'm not sure why it has to be ironical, as far as the truth of your experiences aligns with any small one possibly there.
The anon that made the thread sounds conflicted, far from the experience you describe.
I guess your aim could rather be just commenting these experiences in general
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Get a wig for your wife and meet her at a bar
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>>31145191
lol
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>>31121252
Why are you on a men's site to begin with? And what do you have to offer? You're probably not even a virgin and if you're on this site have watched more porn than most guys. Are you even a woman? lol the absurdity
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>>31143192
I'd think anon that love is a deep thing, that holds real concern for others. Be it a woman, a wife, or even yourself.

I'm not sure about how much it fits it all
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>>31119604
You should try quit looking at porn. Out of sight, out of mind.

Or you could suggest an open relationship.
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>>31140487
go back to ur bbc discord dude, nobody is buying it.
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>>31145169
It's ironic as the post being responded to largely has a message that would discourage most cheating yet not only supports but most accurately describes my cheating.
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>>31147154
I would say that love fits rather well.
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>>31119604
stop sending nigga propaganda
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>>31151263
Well, I wouldn't think that's what the message tries to do, although its author could discourage it as you say.
But is one that aims to respond to the thread, and help someone asking, fitted to his personal concerns. Maybe not yours
If you need help, or advice, you are able to create a thread
Something being possibly true, does not imply it being so, on the other hand. A model seemingly fitting, is not the same as being a truthful sight.

>>31151269
I think these things are the kind able to cause fear and conflict, and make the peace of many and integrity of some hinge on a thread, tied and made every day thinner by those involved. All of them affecting more than one person. Many people perhaps

You might think differently
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>>31152635
>Well, I wouldn't think that's what the message tries to do, although its author could discourage it as you say.
>But is one that aims to respond to the thread, and help someone asking, fitted to his personal concerns. Maybe not yours
>If you need help, or advice, you are able to create a thread
>Something being possibly true, does not imply it being so, on the other hand. A model seemingly fitting, is not the same as being a truthful sight.
Dude, from my perspective, my posted reaction to the post seemed ironic. That's as deep as it needs to get. I'm neither prepared nor invested enough to defend my perspective.

>I think these things are the kind able to cause fear and conflict, and make the peace of many and integrity of some hinge on a thread, tied and made every day thinner by those involved. All of them affecting more than one person. Many people perhaps
I would agree that is often the case. However, my actions were those of love nonetheless.
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>>31119604
>Just one
Sex addiction usually doesn't work this way.
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>>31121252
every woman i've been involved with who's had issues with porn and me talking to or about other women, has turned out to be a mentally whore who's projecting
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>>31152935
I'm also here for those in need of advice

I really wish you well, anon
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>>31150311
lol. either grumpy white dude mad that he has more competition for asian women; or grumpy asian dude upset that yet another race has easy sexual access to asian women whereas he is continuously rejected by them.
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>>31119604
I’m dating a girl for almost a year now and I feel similarly. It’s not that I don’t love my girlfriend it’s just now at my age (30) I’m getting so much attention and signals from women I just want to fuck someone for the sake of variety, I really do love my gf though. I’m not gaslighting or blaming her but she never initiates sex with me and it makes me feel like she’s selfish and doesn’t make me feel wanted, but she’s a complicated person and has a troubled past. I’m patient and loving and she’s loving too but fuck me there’s so many hotter chicks wanting to fuck and I can’t help but want to. I don’t think it’ll cheat but if it did at least I’m not married. Once the vows have been made there isn’t room for any of that shit to fly.

I’ve talked to a select few older male relatives I have about it and they ALL say they messed around with other girls before they tied the knot with their girlfriends. So it’s more common than I realized
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>>31145882
a men's site? lol. are you new?
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>>31119604
You should go on one of those escort sites. Lots of tiny Asian chicks, some cute and some ugly but if you can find one in her prime you’ll both have a blast. Last one treated me like her BF as I plowed her missionary. I was rock hard and she kept screaming at the top of her lungs as I held her legs up and as far back as possible, thrusting my 6.7 inches in and out of her tight little cunt. You haven’t lived until you’ve felt that Asian pussy lock up as a vice grip around your cock. They absolutely go wild. I would never breed with one though. Gonna try her ass next time.
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>>31154193
op here, did a lot of that as a young man with my first ever paycheques. probably the exact point where I developed yellow fever.
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>>31119604
It is wrong actually, race mixing is wrong and infidelity is wrong. Either respect the rules or go full anarchist (you can't handle that)
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>>31154400
hurr durr racemixing is le wrong
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>>31119604
How to kill your marriage 101
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Good on you for not race mixing op. I’m married as well and understand the sexual desires of wanting to bang foreign whores until you die. Best of luck hope you don’t fuck up your marriage
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you niggas are goofy. its not race mixing if she doesnt end up pregnant and birthing your ricecel son.
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>>31155175
that or Step 1 of a better marriage
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>>31119604
uh, yea its wrong. your mindstates messed too if you saying g***
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>>31159484
I mean I literally said I wanted a sordid raceplay encounter. I want a low self esteem asian to have very rough, borderline abusive sex with while calling her every racist name under the sun. Kinda gettin a semi just thinking about it to be honest.
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>>31119604
u might be gay cheating won’t help tho be true to yourself
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>>31160584
why gay?
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Reading this thread with great interest as I'm in a kind of a perfect storm situation
>36M white
>lived in Asia since I was a teenager (still here now)
>speak multiple languages
>autist-lite in my teens and early twenties
>get into PUA shit and start banging sluts here and there around 21
>still sperging but at least getting better
>eventually fall in love with a sweet girl who I meet by chance
>she's from a wealthy family and helps us start a business together
>only problem is that she's a 5 on a good day
>doesn't dress sexy, is sexually conservative
>meanwhile I'm getting into fitness and dressing better
>suddenly start getting attention from hot women

I've been with this girl for 10 years now and every day is an existential dilemma for me. On the one hand I love her to death. I'd literally put my life down for her if it came to that. On the other hand I'm plagued by the thought that I've never gotten good with women and there's so much shame internally when I see a hot girl because I know I'm avoiding learning how to interact with and seduce them. I just feel like a loser for never getting good at making women fall for me. I also feel shame for being a fairly attractive white guy in Asia and walking around with someone who's several tiers below me. I've had a few affairs and she found out about 2 of them. Caused a lot of suffering but we're still together. But the urge to keep doing it is always on all the time. At the same time all the men I know who have their shit together will say "don't bother chasing women it's a waste of time, just focus on growth". But I feel like growth for me means going out and banging more hot chicks because I never really got the level of success that I wanted.

What the fuck do I do? I'm surrounded by hot Asian zoomers and although my girlfriend is the best person I know and we've built a life together I can't stop thinking 24/7 about how I need to prove to myself that hot women want to fuck me.
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>>31167839
she must know she's fugly if she let you cheat twice lmfao. She thinks she bagged a yellow fever dude and will let you get away with murder cause she's addicted to your cock lol
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>>31167839
You might find these to be interesting readings:

The True Value of the Ring
The Knight in the Oxidized Armor
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>>31127162
Sexual attraction is not a choice between either individual, this is true, but I don't know if I buy into the whole "free will is a myth" notion.
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>>31167839
>I've had a few affairs and she found out about 2 of them.
>we're still together

If you're not gonna put a baby in her, open the marriage and at least have the decency to openly cuckqueen this sorry, spineless woman
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>>31159484
not op, but I got kinda fucked up in the head because I lost my virginity to a native american chick who was begging for me to "colonize her" and wanted me to call her "my little red slut" among other things. I only called her by her native name while fucking her. It was one of those 'I didn't even know I had this fetish what the fuck' moments but it was really hot.

It's pretty hot if both people are into it, but yeah I'd be pretty cautious about leading with it. You're just gonna scare girls off.
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>>31121252
>pornsick
>value or respect your partners
You´re probably just larping as a woman but I´ve seen women who have the gall irl to have such pseudo-traditional opinions while fucking 100 different niggers per year. Tired of you hypocrites. You literally created this environment by calling us nazis for being traditional so it´s over now. 99% of men are pornsick and it won´t end until mohammed and abdul who you invited into the country will send women back to the kitchen. Enjoy your last party.
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>>31168953
>The Knight in the Oxidized Armor

Ok, for real tho. How am I supposed to love myself? I'm failing at most aspects of life. The fact that I'm not regularly dating hot women is proof of this otherwise they'd be attracted to me.
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>>31170761
i agree. imagine being so ugly and low self esteem you let some white autistic retard in Asia cuck you multiple times lmfao. Asian women are literal fuckmeat.
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>>31170929
based. big halal cock redomesticating women is the future of western civ.
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>>31171450
I´m 100% serious this is not an exaggeration. It´s happening in Germany because women voted this way. White women are the biggest retards in history worse than niggers.
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>>31171525
I have a muslim friend who wants to travel to Swedistan for this exact reason.
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>>31119604
Last time I tried to ask a woman out I got so petrified I legit froze up, but faggots like you are acting all sad because you CAN'T cheat? Kill yourself.
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yes Anon 20% of men are fucking 80% of the women. And you're one of the 80% of men who aren't getting laid at all. Welcome to the modern paradigm, nerd.
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>>31150311
picrel

throw in the fact Jav produces zero white male porn and a surprising amount of BBC
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>>31129798
>go back home to your wife and love her just as much as you did before.
Which is easy, because you do not love her at all. If you love someone, you don't go out of your way to do things that would hurt them. You don't disrespect them. You don't lie to them.

If you are married and sleep with other women behind your wife's back, it means you don't care for her at all.
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>>31173021
oh yeah, as a somewhat buff black dude with a fairly decent cock (over 7"), I've considered moving to Japan just to do porn. Only thing is it would be kind of weird to have to fuck the girl for an hour straight, in front of a camera, while she makes whale screeching noises the entire time.

Would post more explicit stuff but I'd get banned. Sirbao is the GOAT.
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>>31173035
I've literally never seen a JAV with a PIV scene that lasted more than 15 minutes
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>>31167839
Just divorce her. You clearly don't love her, barely even like her.
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>>31173039
Dude aren't most JAV vids like an hour and a half at least? Granted it's probably two or three actual sessions of intercourse.
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>>31173054
Yes, but they're broken into multiple scenes
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>>31173074
I mean honestly that sounds preferable. I dunno if I got the stamina to go for over an hour.
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>>31173048
I hate this brain dead take so much
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>>31173584
I mean, is it? She sounds like she has no self respect. He clearly gets money and regular sex with a woman who obviously isn't his preferred mate out of it. If he was married to her, he could divorce her and likely be the one getting paid alimony. Unsure of how divorce law works in the Asian country he lives in, since he didn't bother to specify. And the fact that he has cheated multiple times and "only" got caught twice is hilarious, because she still chooses to be with him. This is obviously a low tier asian woman willing to kill for bwc. Autistic bwc is clearly some kind of coveted prize to this woman. She seems like she's basically okay with him cheating so long as she doesn't know.

I think this anon >>31170761 put it best: either make your autistic hapa mongrel with her, cuckqueen her with younger, pretty Asian girls. Make sure to humiliate her as well so everyone knows she's such a simp for this guy she'll let him cheat. Or option 3, divorce her ass, take the money and run. Anyhow, I think we all owe this Anon some congratulations for the hilarious and oddly lucky circumstance he apparently finds himself in.
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>>31173655
Just be warned, if you fertilize that yellow womb, almost certainly blood will be on your hands. The probability of your child either being an Elliott Rodger or Mayli (from the facial abuse vid) is remarkably high. Just a terrible concoction occurring here, genetically speaking: autistic white guy combined with ugly, obviously profoundly self hating asian woman. This is practically the textbook recipe for a future killer or amateur pornstar who needs an army of white dicks to make her feel whole.

Eat the rice, pay the price.
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>>31140346
Eastern Euro's seem to have a similair issue where the women look very feminine and pretty but the men look like orcish oafs. Western Europe seems like one of the rare places where women and men match eachothers beauty (ofcourse theres still uggos out and about).
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>>31173662
Dude unironically is more attractive than his sisters
>>31173712
Eastern Europeans are the only acceptable white women
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>>31154006
>she’s a complicated person and has a troubled past.
That's not good, and I'm not just saying that to blow up your relationship or to encourage you to get your dick wet. I've dated a girl like that and it fucking sucked after the honeymoon phase was over. And if she ever told you that she was sexually assaulted, run.
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>>31173896
>Dude unironically is more attractive than his sisters
Bro should've lifted weights. He would have slayed
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>>31173896
>Eastern Europeans are the only acceptable white women

lmao, they are way more materialistic, backstabbing and conniving then their western counterparts.
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>>31173945
I don't give a fuck about behavior, I'm strictly talking about appearance.
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>>31173655
>low tier asian woman willing to kill for bwc. Autistic bwc is clearly some kind of coveted prize to this woman.

Other than me she's only had two other boyfriends in her whole life, so she's just inexperienced with dating which is lucky for me. If I had met a female version of myself I would run instantly. She just tolerates a lot of my shit because she doesn't know any better.

Also as far as I know she's actually fairly happy with me. Yeah the affairs took their toll but nowadays it's almost like they didn't happen. We laugh and joke and have a good time living, working and traveling together. We have the same tastes in music, food, art, books, films, pretty much everything. I get that noone is perfect but this woman is the only person I've met who I would consider for a life partner. In 10 years she's never even once started any drama shit or behaved unreasonably. So this >>31173048
is wrong. I love her and would never want to hurt her or steal her money through divorce or anything like that. It's not even a grass is greener issue because I know how rare it is to find a reasonable woman who's a joy to be around. My issue is that I struggle with accepting myself as I am. Validation from women fills me with purpose and determination like nothing else. I feel inadequate for never learning how to get with hot bitches. I'm struggling with something I can't pinpoint. Logically speaking I should be happy. I get to make bank, live in a warm nice Asian country, get regular sex from someone who loves me and not have to worry about 99% of the stuff most other people have to contend with. But somehow I'm still miserable every day. And it's not because my partner is not hot enough. The affairs I had were with stunners 10 years younger than her, and still at the time I wanted more. I didn't want to shack up with them, I wanted to go out MORE and get MORE pussy.
Whatever this drive is it's risking me sabotaging everything and ignoring it makes me feel shame.
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>>31174144
There's also nowhere I can go to get support on this. I tried therapy but it was the biggest waste of time and money. Paying thousands of dollars to spew verbal diarrhea to a woman who nods and responds "so how does that make you feel?". I tried AMPs but I'm not looking for a sexual release, yeah it feels nice but it's not fixing anything and a few hours later I'm just back to baseline. My friends are mostly well adjusted and don't understand why anyone would cheat. Reddit just gets people like me downvoted and flamed to hell for being le misogynist. MGTOW or rational male type groups are probably the closest to understanding my issues, but there's something insufferable about those types of guys that I can't pinpoint. Maybe it's the bravado and funneling into getting me to buy a course or sign up for coaching or something. Or their notion that women can never be rational creatures when in reality my girlfriend is a well adjusted reasonable partner and I'm the one who's trying to keep my shit together. Christcucks are just as obnoxious. I blame Roosh V for that weird wave of reformed PUAs finding God or whatever. GOGOGO time management self mastery faggots are just as useless. I tried "working on myself" and being regimented about my life but all I could think about was "yes I'm getting fitter and reading more and making more money but I'm ignoring doing the one thing that gives me drive and motivation which is going out and facing my fears in talking to attractive women and getting them to sleep with me". And at this age I'm starting to feel the creep of death and time a little bit, adding to the anxiety that I have limited time to attend to this but that doing so would put an otherwise great partnership under tremendous strain.

That leaves a bunch of misfits on this Mongolian basketweaving forum to listen to my Ted talk.
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>>31174144
>Validation from women fills me with purpose and determination like nothing else. I feel inadequate for never learning how to get with hot bitches. I'm struggling with something I can't pinpoint.
Were you a late bloomer? As in, Did you lose your virginity much later than average?
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>>31174362
NTA
Does that even matter?
I had women into me at 14 and still have that problem because I have BPD
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>>31121252
This is 4chan the men here are actual bottom of the barrel entities. I remember thinking the same thing about women reading lolcow farm back in the day. This place does not reflect the majority most of the userbase here are incels or guys who have some sort of severe social deficiency.
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>>31174430
Okay

This anon is correct.
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>>31119604
Repent and stop watching porn.
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>>31174362
I think it was around 18 y/o but that was purely through luck. Just being white and being at the right place at the right time.
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>>31174408
>Does that even matter?
For me it did. I went from absolutely nothing until 25, then started getting laid. I'm sure it had that sort of effect on me.
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>>31167839
I mean, it seems like your urge to cheat is more of a self-esteem thing than a sex addiction/compulsion, which makes it easier to work through. I'm not sure how much of a thing therapy is in Asia but I would recommend definitely individual therapy for you and possibly couples' therapy. You need to find other ways to build self-esteem and self-confidence that don't involve cheating. Hell (and this isn't super ethical) but would it be possible to get the same rush without cheating? Like going to a bar and flirting without letting it get too far?

It seems like you have a good woman who you genuinely love (at least, as much as is possible given your current behavior). And (assuming she's your age or a little younger) you've already taken up her best years, so if you cut her loose now, she'd probably never find anyone else. So if you genuinely want to change, or even want to want to change, then I think the right thing to do would be stay with her and try to work through it together.

But I'm 23 and have no relationship experience, so take this with a grain of salt.
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>>31174826
Also, if you're not leaving her, then do the right thing and marry her already, ffs.
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OP totally understand you. I even have a petite Asian wife and i still want to fuck other pussy. All i can say is, get it out of your system. Back before we were official, i fucked another young Asian pussy and while it was amazing, it wasn't as special as i thought it was going to be. sometimes you just need to actually check and see if the grass is greener. It usually isn't.... and be careful. don't bring home any diseases. Pussy is just pussy. It's a flesh hole. Your wife's is probably just as good or better than any other. Having some meaningless sex with an asian whore will probably leave you feeling like you did a lot of work and went out of your way for not much benefit.
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>>31175233
Interesting point of view, maybe I do just need to "get it out of my system"
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>>31174430
You mean like you?
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>>31174442
more fit asians pls
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>>31174826
>would it be possible to get the same rush without cheating? Like going to a bar and flirting without letting it get too far?

I've thought about doing this but getting into bed with someone is a much higher form of validation than chats and pleasantries.
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>>31177771
It's true. Nothing beats making those asian sluts squeal with your dick inside em.
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>>31119604
you seriously need to quit porn and find God
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>>31121252
Don’t worry about. They’ll keep proving our point and reliving their misery, rightfully so. It’ll be easy to pick them out and avoid them.
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>>31178388
I don't jerk off to porn very often anymore. Usually just sexual fantasies that I imagine now when the wife isn't around.



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