I've been trying to quit using dildos and stop these gay thoughts from entering my headI've tried going to therapists but they keep trying to psyop me into "accepting my sexuality". I don't want this. I want to be a leader and a father, not a homosexual loser What can i do?
>>31132940Just accept that you're a fag.If you find the right man and get married, some states will let you adopt. You could also find a surrogate to put your and your husband's mixed jizz in.
>>31132940Prayer and fasting
>>31132940Get rid of those dildo and fuck a real gay bull.Once you understand the gravity of what's going on, the scent of a man, the way his body hair brushes to your body, his throbbing dick penetrating your ass and feeling his cum inside of you, you'll realize that you're not really gay
>>31132960Kill yourself assholeIm looking for advice on how to stop being a faggot
>>31132965I guess you could castrate yourself to get rid of any sexual urges but then you're stuck with adoption.
>>31132973Fuck off
>>31132975Hey there's nothing wrong with being a pillow biter, I'm just trying to help you.You like taking it in your ass and that's OK.
>>31132993If you dont have any advice that I'm asking for, fuck off and kill yourself
>>31133010I'm giving you advice, you need to accept yourself for who you are. No amount of denial will make you straight.
>>31133032It's not who I am
>>31133039Lie to me all you want but you can't lie to yourself.
>>31132940So why are you going to therapist (who do not require any training or license btw) if you are unwilling to change anything in yourself? Part of being therapist is telling clients the things they don't want to know, to function as a mirror. If you agree with your therapist all the time, they're not doing their job correctly.
>>31133106My therapist straight up ignores my concerns and tries any number of tricks to try to get me to accept something which is destructive to me and opposite to my values.
>>31132940Be a homosexual leader. Emulate Alexander The Great, King James I of England, Alan Turing, etc etc etc
>>31133165I dont want to be a homosexual that isnt who i am
Embrace it. All it does is give you more options.
>>31133190Kill yourself
>>31133248Nah
>>31132940There guys:>>31132973>>31132993>>31133165are actually trying to help. I'm bisexual. There is nothing wrong with getting it up the rear. Ever been with a man before? If not, I suggest you try it out. Otherwise force yourself to marry some poor sweet woman, that is going to get her life turned upside down because of your stubbornness. All you can do is to lie to yourself as >>31133071 said. Good luck. Also be so kind of spare me the casual loser responds all the others got.
>>31133461If I said that I don't want that, and I want advice on how to stop going down that oath, what makes you think it's appropriate to say "Well ackshully, it's completely normal, and you should fully embrace the very thing that you don't want to be"? I'm not asking you for advice on how to be gay. If that's the advice you want to give, just be quiet.
>>31132940Just think of it like being born with autism or schizophrenia, anon. You are going to have this disadvantage your entire life and it can't be cured. But you can struggle against it your entire life and try to be as normal as possible. Keep telling therapists you are not interested in giving into your urges and try to find one that is sympathetic, because this goes against the cultural grain right now and most are going to tell you to just give in.
>>31133498Alright, to answer your question of how to stop being gay, you can't. Many pastors, politicians, and priests have tried but they all failed. Just accept it.
OP, you're being very simple about rejecting posters' advice about accepting your 'gayness'--"that's just not what I want". Sometimes when we think we are resisting something, we inadvertently end up affirming it. I.e., saying "i'm not a loser i'm not a loser" and then becoming afraid that you're lying to yourself about that. Only after the pendulum has swung back and forth a lot do we truly settle into who we are. I am not advocating "accepting being gay" plainly, but it is complicated. I would suggest getting in touch with WHY you want to be straighty-straight, maybe write a list of reasons down so you can see and examine them from an outside perspective. Do the same for why you want to use dildos. The themes of what you want for yourself and what you want for other people will probably come up. Also you'll probably end up confronting your self-perception, and how it relates to your belief about others' perceptions of you. One thing I'll say is that the 'straight, alpha, leader' thing to do would be to take those perceptions with a grain of salt. You don't want to be a coomer who lives only for his own gunchy pleasure, but you also don't want to be someone who exclusively serves others to the point of inflicting pain on yourself.One last thought, the prostate is a legit erogenous zone from what I understand. Maybe it would be pretty sweet if you were able to find a nice girl who's willing to experiment with pegging or that kind of stuff.
>>31133786cont.also, 'Leader & Father' and 'Homosexual & Loser' are not the only potential ways to pair those words. One can be a deadbeat dad, or a badass gay dude (>>31133165). You could also be a homosexual father, or a loser leader. My guess is that the only word you REALLY don't want to have describe you here is "loser", so work on de-coupling the concepts of loser and gay in your mind, and focus on ways to not be a loser, and being the other stuff will come more readily.
>>31133727I didnt ask if i could or couldn't. I asked how can I do it.
>>31133786As I've stated, it doesn't align with my values, and it leads to destruction 100% of the time. From personal experience, I've already seen the darkness that it has caused me. I do not want it anymore. "Accepting it" isn't an option.
>>31133823There is no such thing as a homosexual leader. It's an oxymoron. Unless you're giving, not getting.
>>31133727>Helps people transition because they don't want to be something>Doesn't help people detransition because they don't want to be somethingMakes my noggin joggin
>>31134047This cult-like behavior is one of the many reasons why I'm desperate to escape. The constant gaslighting, trying to tell me how I ACTUALLY feel, intentionally ignoring what I say, telling me everyone else is right about me. This is based on my own personal experience, and no amount of gaslighting attempts by homosexuals on this board is going to change that. I want out.
>>31132940>What can i do?Just get a femdom girlfriend and have her fuck you with her strapon.
>>31132940You've got two routes here pal:1. Go through the process of de-gaying yourself, however that works. I'm assuming has something to do with religion or philosophy, there's no scientific method for it that I know of.2. You can still be a leader and a father and be gay. Adoption is a thing, happy gay relationships are a thing. Being gay and being masculine aren't necessarily mutually exclusive depending on who you are.
>>31132940
What if you just find a woman who's willing to peg you?
>>31134064>>31134090I don't want anything to do with that
>>31134027I've never fucked my own ass nor do I care to. Because the ass is sensitive, I understand it could probably feel good if I let lust take control of me and let myself completely go, but that is the case for anything. Drugs, alcohol, anything. You've simply lost control of yourself, and wanting control back is a good first step.I stopped drinking, so maybe you can try something similar.For me, I had issues, and alcohol was an amazing escape. I felt good, became social, funny, it gave me some semblance of personality but as you could figure, it all ultimately sucked and was destructiveWhile drinking, I knew alcohol wasn't my problem and I knew it was an escape, so I had no desire to stop. I stopped it from fear of relapse after I'd fixed the other issuesThe answer for me was meditation. Meditation taught me how to be mindful, which in turn taught me to deal with and adress anxiety. Few weeks later, I was afraid of alcohol, because I was scared to lose my mindful state of mind.6 years later, I don't drink, unless on special occasions, but even then I don't lose control of myselfDoes fucking yourself in the ass make you feel in charge of yourself? Have you considered the above, and to avoid giving in to mindless lust? You can masturbate as much as you want, even daily, as long as you don't lose control of yourself. It is when you lose control of yourself that you become disgusting, weak and pathetic.
>>31132940You need to take full responsibility of your sexuality if you want to learn how to stop and prevent ppl from lecturing you on it.Most of it is just getting to know your body and treating the shoving rubber up your bum as a compulsion you're tired of. Find something else to do when you feel bored and if you want to give therapy a real shot, pretend it's "smoking weed" or "binge eating cookies" or whatever, just don't give them anything to work with on the idiotic modern idpol topics.
>>31132940Run away from that which makes you feel weak and towards that which makes you feel strong. Once you've started running, relapsing will at first be tempting, then scary. In a few months, it will be tempting and scary, but keep at it. In a year, there will be no desire, and who knows, maybe you'll even be able to joke about it without giving in to it. You'll develop other desires and change as a person
>>31134099Why not? She'll convert you to straight!You'll associate being fucked with females instead of males.Then all you have to do is stop taking it up the ass and fuck her instead.
The only thing you can do is suppress the urges and go on antidepressants or anti androgens and chemically castrate yourself. There is no research suggesting you can change your sexuality. Well, there was a small study where pedophiles changed their preference once but they likely had a mixed preference anyway towards adults. You can try to look up sexual offender fantasy therapy/treatments. There have been successful treatments for changing the fantasy direction a sexual offender has. Obviously you’re not a sex offender, but really the only research you’ll find in this type of thing is sex offender research. In my opinion, it would be easier to just accept you like it and that you’re not hurting anyone. Tim Dillon is my favourite comedian and he’s gay. He’s edgy, manly, crass and you literally wouldn’t know he’s gay unless he tells you (which he rarely does). Do you think trannies are attractive if they have a cock but are feminine? Maybe you can start with that, so then you can have a straight passing relationship
>>31132940Talk to a pastor or priest instead of a therapist.
>>31132940If you're having gay thoughts you're gay, periodI don't know what it is with tradcons having a disproportionate of closeted gays
>>31132940Melt all the dildos together and throw it at someone while putting all your heart into it.
>>31132940Get pegged otherwise you ARE , in fact , a homosexual loser.
>>31132940Anon, nothing and no one can make you be someone you don't want to be. You don't have to listen to therapists who tell you to be gay, and you don't have to be a homo if you don't want to be one. If you want to repress or to marginalise this habit, you can do that too. You are free to do what you want. If it is important for you to not be a homo, then by all means, do as you like and don't be a homo.I should point out that even if you use dildos on yourself, that doesn't necessarily make you a faggot. Using dildos is just that, using dildos - it won't somehow magically transform you into a vocal fry homo, unless you deliberately choose to follow up with that. You can keep using your dildos if you wish, all you have to do is stay mindful of the fact that it's just dildos and that nothing fundamental about you is being changed by using them. Are these dildos likely to cause a problem? Only if somehow information about your use of them leaks into society and clashes with the public image you are trying to cultivate. See how things go. Remember, you can be a leader and a father - you can be whatever you want to be. And you can also use the dildos, or not use them, if that's what you choose, too. If you stop pressuring yourself in your mind, it'll be easier to obtain more control over the situation.
>>31132965unironically do this >>31132963
>>31132940just get your wife to peg you
>>31133174What are you then? What straight behavior do you actually have besides being jealous of what straight people can have?Straight people aren't straight just because they can stop thinking about gay sex, that's not what makes someone straight.
>>31132940Throw away the dildo. If you watch porn, stop watching.
>>31136438That wouldn't turn op straight...
>>31132940Are you actually attracted to men or do you just enjoy buttstuff?
