>>33673403
wow you guys really are a bunch of losers

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>>33673420

I thought about becoming communist for the same reasons. Not because I believe in their message or anything, but because I think it would be something new and interesting to get into. They say that variety is the spice of life, so I wanted to try something new.

>>33673403
The likelihood that this is a kiked thread means that it is not worth reading. Sorry Shlomo/Brucie/Leroy [as the case may be] but I won't read troll threads.

>>33673403
Slow day at work, officer?

>>33673563
Imagine thinking any of the feds give a single shit about 4chan

>>33673589
What do you think /pol/ is?

>>33673614
A bunch of internet addicts interested in politics mostly. Twitter has 10x the influence /pol/ has.

>>33673403
No. It doesn’t make sense. If you are a stupid person then lean into people skills for success. If you’re relatively smart or have some sort of skill lean into that.
You say you have no career but you’re also in college. No shit you don’t have a career. Also how is college oppressive? You live in a paradise if you’re in the US. You’re going to join a neonazi group based on an assumption about office work? Retard.
>nothing to lose
You have no idea what’s you have to lose. You have family? You have all your limbs? You’re not confined to a prison cell?

>>33673690
Both platforms get the same propaganda and have userbases that overlap significantly.
/pol/ played such a large role in media coverage of the 2016 presidential election that my grandparents know about it.

>>33673698
You realize not every right winger/white nationalist/neonazi is going around getting into fights and committing terrorist attacks right?

>>33673703
Maybe in 2016 it had some relevance but this website is dead. It's totally calcified. Not like the rest of the internet isn't, but it used to be ahead of the curve.

>>33673717
Yes of course. It’s based on the same ideology that leftists believe in though. It’s literally retarded. Mentally disabled. Whatever you want to call it.

>>33673717
Oh yeah, when I think of peace and understanding the first people I think of are wignats. People who famously have their shit together and clearly aren't just trying to claim supremacy over the one thing that they can't lose or have stolen from them.
I get it, but it's pathetic.

>>33673723
As if destroying the ethnic core of every single prosperous white country is a sane thing to do lmao

>>33673727
Pull yourself up by your bootstraps bucko!

>>33673729
American society was literally never based on immutable characteristics. If you want to live in an ethnostate go to Palestine. It is moral action that matters. All human beings are capable of moral action.
If you could bring Benjamin Franklin back to life or any of the other founding fathers they would acknowledge that the “ethnic core,” as you call it, was “destroyed” by the 1880s. 99% of lost retards in those groups would be considered swarthy in 1800.
People in ethnonationalist groups read twitter manifestos but they never read primary source documents from the revolutionary era or anything approaching basic political philosophy beyond 140 characters.

>>33673748
Yeah this is just misinformation man. Ben Franklin endorsed German immigration and the first congress of the U.S. passed a law limiting citizenship to "whites", not Anglos. But you already know this, and so do I. So it's not really worth arguing about more.

>>33673742
Non sequitur. One of the most pathetic things I think my fellow white men can do is try to claim that we are exceptional because of the color of our skin instead of our character or actions.

>>33673760
Yeah this is just individualist garbage. Nobody ever did anything of note on their own. We stand on the shoulders of giants, as maybe the most important man in history, Isaac Newton said. We are not made great by our individual characteristics, but by our collective ones.

>>33673768
And to claim that we only stand on white shoulders is tantamount to sticking one's head in the sand.

>>33673753
Explain the existence of abolitionists in the north and the adoption of constitutions that granted blacks citizenship. All stemming from the ratification of the Massachusetts constitution. Ya know, from the state that led the independence movement and the founding of America.

>>33673785
Some people disagreed with the prevailing view... So what?

>>33673781
Who said this? Did my point completely fly over your head?

>>33673785 me
>>33673753
Furthermore, read Adams’ work. He was the most ardent voice for independence from that white monarchic superpower called Britain. He pushed for independence harder than anyone and employed free black Massachusetts citizens in Braintree.

>>33673805
>Some people disagreed with your view so therefore your view is wrong
Great logic chucklefuck. Now let me ask you a question: why do rich blacks score lower on the SAT than poor whites?

>>33673403
No, you'll get doxxed and destroy your prospects of gainful employment.
All these organizations are infiltrated by leftists to dox their members.
Just find a good job and look for a gf, have kids and teach them to not hate themselves because of their race.
The most important thing you can do for your race is have kids.

>>33673818
Not just “some people disagreed”; the main guy pushing for the creation of the new country disagreed with you. New England as a whole (the region whose revolution it was) was abolitionist and included blacks as citizens within years (and some before) the ratification of the constitution. Plus the constitution, our defining document, says nothing of it being a white ethnostate. Have you ever actually read the entire constitution?
>why do rich blacks score lower on the SAT than poor whites?
What does that have to do with whether the US is a white ethnostate? If you’re making an intellectual competency argument, you should consider that East Asians blow Europeans/whites out of the water on the SAT.

>>33673831
This. All extant organizations are totally infiltrated, if not by lefties, then by feds.

This kind of thing you can only trust your friends and family, if even them.

>>33673851
>New England as a whole (the region whose revolution it was) was abolitionist and included blacks as citizens within years (and some before) the ratification of the constitution.
Yeah and there weren't many blacks in New England lmao. It's like how Europeans will live in a 99% white country and then shit on Americans for being racist. It's almost like there's a reason.
I haven't read the constitution in full since high school civics, but so what? I think race should've been included in it. We exist 250 years after the Founding Fathers did, we have the benefit of hindsight.
>you should consider that East Asians blow Europeans/whites out of the water on the SAT.
There aren't many East Asians in the U.S, it's clearly selection bias. But that's an ancillary argument, mostly I think that America should be white because it's historically white, and because I am white. I'm not stupid. I know how disempowered minorities are treated in countries.

>>33673831
>Just find a good job and look for a gf, have kids and teach them to not hate themselves because of their race.
>The most important thing you can do for your race is have kids.
That's right.

>>33673831
If having children alone is a path to political power than why do leftists have more power than right wingers? The Amish are not gaining political power.

>>33673897
Who cares about seizing political power other than politicians? Let them play their stupid games.

>>33673911
If you care about the future of your country you should.

>>33673885
>I think race should’ve been included in it.
You can think whatever you want. My point is it wasn’t included. Ergo the US is not an ethnostate.
Turning it into an ethnostate would require repealing the fifth and fourteenth amendments.
>benefit of hindsight
You don’t know how lucky we are to live in the US. Seriously. Go elsewhere if you want to live in an ethnostate. Also who will define what “white” is? Are slavs white? Are the Irish white?
>mostly I think that America should be white because it’s historically white, and because I am white
What kind of argument is that? It’s on the tier of the Black Panthers in the 60s and 70s talking about how they should break off and create a black society because they were minorities and were mistreated. How about we get past immutable characteristics is a way of judging people? I’m tall. Does it make sense to create a society based on height? No.
We need to uphold the equal protection clause. Otherwise we’re throwing out the baby with the bath water. It’s similar to Muslim countries holding themselves back by refusing to educate 50% of their population. It’s an arbitrary characteristic. Moral action is the measure of good. I have personally known ethnic minorities who make life better for everyone around them. And I’ve known white people who make life miserable for everyone around them.
Look man, please try to think about what I’ve said. And have a good night.

>>33673917
The USA has no future so long as it is shackled to the State of Israel. It’s probably going to Balkanize this century after Israel falls, and getting bogged down in identity politics certainly isn’t going to help prevent it from happening.

>>33673885
Anon, you're a moron.

>>33673403
Whatever happened to biker gangs? Soccer clubs? Why is it that the only time white zoomers Males go outside in groups is for shit like this? Whatever happened to make comradery

>>33673936
>is not an ethnostate
I agree, but it used to be 90% white. And the remaining minority was oppressed. To pretend this was not intentionally pursued is bad faith.
>Also who will define what “white” is?
Ridiculous question. How did we do it for 150 years?
>Are Slavs white?
Yes
>Are Irish white?
Yes
>How about we get past immutable characteristics is a way of judging people?
How about we don't?
>I’m tall. Does it make sense to create a society based on height? No.
Two tall people can have a short child. Two white people cannot have a nonwhite child. Also height doesn't really matter to anything, it's not analogous. Intelligence is more analogous, it's 100% valid to discriminate based on intelligence.
>We need to uphold the equal protection clause. Otherwise we’re throwing out the baby with the bath water.
I support the equal protection clause. I just think it should only apply to whites. Birthright citizenship for all races is the biggest problem with the 14th IMO.
>It’s similar to Muslim countries holding themselves back by refusing to educate 50% of their population. It’s an arbitrary characteristic
Except when Europe and America were the most homogeneous we were also at the height of our global power.
>I have personally known ethnic minorities who make life better for everyone around them. And I’ve known white people who make life miserable for everyone around them.
The exception doesn't disprove the rule. This is like logic 101 dude.
>Look man, please try to think about what I’ve said
I already have. You think I haven't encountered these arguments before? You think I didn't used to believe them? I don't think the colorblind society you advocate for is possible. I think groups have significant intrinsic average differences, and these differences will inevitably lead to conflict. Latin America is heavily racially mixed, did they get rid of racism and create a utopia? Or did the significantly more racist United States and Canada prevail?

>>33673990
Ad hominem fallacy

>>33674035
Just an unsolicited insult, actually.

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>>33673949
All politics are identity politics. Pic rel.
Anyways I didn't really intend to argue politics ITT, I've done that for probably hundreds of hours before. I just wanted some advice on assessing the risk of joining an established organization.

>>33674048
So you're not disputing my point? I'm happy to be a correct moron then.

>>33674050
The wool has been pulled so far over your eyes that it also covers your toes. God help you if you write posts this bad for free.

>>33674067
Just vague posturing. If you're trying to dispute a specific point or to advise me against joining a group I'll be all ears.

>>33673897
Because it isn't just about political power it's about existence and survival.
The left is not reproducing themselves and politics are slightly heritable, they are sterilizing themselves.
Also the mainstream right is moving more towards anti-immigration and remigration, you can always support those candidates without ruining your life.

>>33674130
I don't know if I have it in me to go through the whole infiltration thing. For the mainstream right to move right there needs to be a radical right, someone's gotta do it.

>>33673403
>>33673717
This, the guys in PF are pretty solid. Most of your time is spent just spreading stickers/dropping banners, doing community service work, or team building exercises. It's a decent community of guys and it's pretty well organized. They don't do anything illegal or encourage anything that's against the law. The most controversial thing we did were the marches which I was never a fan of really, but it was still a cool experience being with 100+ guys. I ended up leaving because I wanted to pursue an education and don't want to potentially compromise my university education. I hope someday after I've established my career to be able to donate money back into the organization's community service and disaster relief activities. I've always felt like the community service aspect has been more impactful than the banner drops or rallies/marches.

A lot of people claim PF is a fed operation, and from my personal experience, I highly doubt this as they all seem to be very typical folks. Even if a fed was present in the organization, it didn't affect us since we did nothing illegal.

t. Former member

>>33673403
nah dude. should join a sports or intrests club and talk to people and try and make friends

>>33673851
The very first naturalization act of the US limited citizenship to free white persons of good character.

>>33673936
>What kind of argument is that? It’s on the tier of the Black Panthers in the 60s and 70s talking about how they should break off and create a black society because they were minorities and were mistreated.
And it was absolutely justified of them to do so.
It's far more logically consistent than the spastic behavior of believing whites are varying degrees of racist on the one hand, and also doggedly insisting on intermixing with them whenever possible, while getting offended if they want to stay away from you.

>>33674135
I didn't say infiltration but that is 100% better than getting doxxed so bad you can't even hold a minimum wage job

>>33674317
Thanks for an actual response. I'm mostly looking for a social group made up of just people that agree with me. It's tiring to be surrounded by liberals and leftists and immigrants.

>>33674431
You can make friends without joining a doxxing honeypot

>>33674437
I've made RW friends, but we're all islands within a greater liberal framework. I wonder if by trying to organize and network from scratch I'm hampering myself.

>>33674423
Then what should I do?

>>33673753
>the first congress of the U.S. passed a law limiting citizenship to "whites"
Naturalization, not citizenship, and it was to whites of good moral character, not just whites. Do you think you would qualify?

>>33674909
Go to church and get involved in their public service organization and bible study club.

>>33674909
Volunteer or join a hobby club.

i have a really good alternative for you! it's called suicide

>>33675060
Trump is your president.

>>33673589
You can’t be that dumb so you’re just being deceptive.

>>33674431
Yeah man, it can be really tough to find friends. I just changed schools back in April and almost every class I take is online which makes it damn near impossible to meet anyone. Anyways, stay strong and I wish you luck

>>33674437
I was fortunate to never deal with anything like this but I agree that OP is probably best off avoiding any organization that might ruin future career prospects

>>33675249
What career prospects? The job market is in ruins

>>33675256
We don't know what the future economic landscape is going to look like and having more doors open certainly won't ever hurt you. If OP really wants to dedicate their life to the cause, then so be it, I have a lot of respect for those kind of guys, but it isn't something that should be done on a whim or without a good bit of time to think about it.

>>33675267
The only way I see the job market improving is with a political sea change to the right desu

>>33675290
I know, I see things the same way you do. Maybe not tomorrow, but eventually they will no longer be able to chain our bodies to their rotten tottering tower of wickedness and corruption.

>>33675147
Obviously. Doubt he liked being called out that early.

>>33673427
Did he try not being a chud?

>>33673589
When this place got hacked a few months ago, at least 2/3rds of the leaked emails were .gov and .edu.

The feds have been interested in this place ever since it spawned a few shooters in the 2010s. But these days it feels less like a honeypot and more like glowniggers babysitting the same handful of spammers every day.

>>33675400
No doubt. There’s probably a building or two full of camouflaged chairwarmers who get paid to post on 4chan full time.