Is this a shit test or is she giving me this pushback because she’s not that attracted to me? I kind of don’t want to go anymore because girls have done this in the past and it signals low attraction.
>>34164422>Is this a shit test or is she giving me this pushback because she’s not that attracted to me?If she wasn't interested in you she would've canceled and not offered an alternative plan. She's literally just asking to relocate your date from one location to another.>I kind of don’t want to go anymore because girls have done this in the past and it signals low attraction.I mean this respectfully, stop being such a little bitch.
>>34164422Shut the fuck up and pick something else.
>>34164422You're disappointed because she doesn't want to drink so you won't be able to push her for sex while she's tipsy>>34164429 is correct the fact that she still wants to see you is a good sign but what am I even saying, you're a retard with a bad attitude so you're gonna fuck it up anywayRemember this post when that happens and she does actually ghost you for real and you're back to fucking Mrs. Palmer and her five friends
>>34164422It's not a last min change as its a day out, she is being respectful and asking to not go out drinking. Say "sure, I'm just glad to be getting out. Did you have something in mind?"
>>34164422Agree with the other anons she would have just canceled or ghosted if she wasnt interested.
>>34164422If she's still offering, that means shes still interested. But if it happens again, I would say no go.
OP here. I just told her “sure that’s fine too. What did you have in mind?” Let’s see what happens. >>34164457No, I never expect sex on the first date. I’m not a chad. I just think that if a woman is making it this difficult before the first date, she’s not that attracted.
>>34165006>"Hey, I'd still like to hang out with you but would you mind if we hung out at place B instead of place A?">"Omg she's making this so difficult"You're fucking retarded
>>34164422everyone ITT calm the fuck down christ. she likes you brother, she wouldn't try to reschedule if not. take her bowling or something, dont overthink it.
>>34164422>shit testPUA has been a fucking blight on dating, you faggots are no longer able to function like normal human beings and view everything through the lens of secret subtext and other gay shit. All she did was tell you that she doesn't feel like drinking and asked to do something else yet here you are trying to decipher this shit like you're an analyst at Bletchley Park during WW2 trying to crack encrypted German communications.
>>34165006>What did you have in mind?not goodshe was expecting you to take the initiativeyou're probably young, you'll learn
>>34164422She still wants to see you, she just doesn't want to get drunk. How can you possibly read that as lack of interest?
>>34165313She just suggested to get coffee. Fuck my life, I’m being relegated to the “gay date” because Im not handsome enough to go where I want to (just a fucking bar). I also hate talking to women completely sober.
I feel like girls downgrade these dates from bar to coffee just to shake off guys they’re not actually committed to meeting. Am I wrong for thinking this?
>>34166193It’s possible but then what are you gonna do about it? Respect that she wants something more low commitment to vet you or find something else to do? They’re both valid options but what do you want?
>>34165315Would she have refused to go to the bar if OP were a chad though?
Why is this website so fucking obsessed with "shit tests"?
>>34166186This is why everyone calls incels retardedIt sounds like she doesn’t even really wanna go out but still wants to spend time with you so she picked something easy. Just enjoy what you’re getting, for fuck’s sake
>>34166186>Fuck my life, I’m being relegated to the “gay date” because Im not handsome enough to go where I want to (just a fucking bar)You're too autistic and retarded to date, OP.
>>34166227>>34166229You can say that, but OP is correct though.
>>34166234>You can say that, but OP is correct though.No, he's not. Its perfectly normal in today's day and age for people to not want to drink alcohol during dates, especially a first one. Additionally, alcohol consumption among young adults is at the lowest level since the 1930s. Adults under 30 who reported drinking any alcohol at any frequency is under 50%. That means 1 out of every 2 people you meet do not drink. There are literally a million and a half reasons why someone would not want to get drunk on a first date that has nothing to do with not being attracted. That's such a moronic and narcissistic thought pattern, especially when the girl literally said "I want to go out with you I just want to change locations". I can't imagine being such a little bitch that you take a request so reasonable and benign personally.
>>34166215>Would she have refused to go to the bar if OP were a chad though?Yes. She'd have wanted to fuck him sober.
>>34166186>also hate talking to women completely sober.Honestly it sounds like a gay date is exactly right for you, then!
>>34166367So you enjoy talking to women if sex isn’t on the table at all? And I’m somehow the gay one kek
>>34166215Some people don't really drink, anon. Its very weird how bizarre of a concept this is for you.
>>34164422When the og plan for a date was drinks/bar is that usually sign they low-key want it to go sexual if it went well enough
>>34166489Not necessarily sexual. Some guys (like myself) just hope for a kiss.
>>34166489I think the general idea is that one side low key wants it to go sexual, regardless of the venue
>>34166592This is an important lesson for virgins and autists - if a girl is agreeing to go out on a date with you it doesn't matter if you're going apple picking or clubbing, she is at the very least open to the possibility of being intimate with you. She would not, I repeat, WOULD NOT AGREE TO GO OUT AND THEN FOLLOW UP WITH PLANS AND ORGANIZING if she had zero interest. Of course alcohol lowers people's inhibition and makes intimacy more likely but the fact that she's even bothering to organize a date with you at all means the door is open. It might not be that date or even the next one but a girl knows whether or not she would fuck you within the first 30 seconds. Not whether or not she WILL, only if she WOULD given the right circumstance. All you have to do once she's decided you're a possibility is not fuck it up by being a little bitch who gets completely demoralized by tiny things like wanting to change the venue or not get drunk on the first date.
>>34166604I’m so fucking Ledditbrained I instinctively looked for the up arrow
>>34164422100% very well could possibly mean that she is super into you and doesn't want to fuck the night up by one of yall getting shit faced
>>34166186>>34166193You could have suggested dinner or a movie or something elseNow you're paying the price. I told you that your retardation and bad attitude would ruin it for you
>>34164422don't overthink it, dumbassjust take her somewhere else
>>34165302>>34166222To be fair women can and do shit test men all the time, it happens in every relationship even during the very beginnings of dating. It is actually important to recognize them and put your foot down as a way to enforce boundaries and set expectations.The problem is OP is a retarded autist so he can't recognize that this isn't a shit test. If she met up at the bar and then mentioned how she didn't feel like drinking then it would veer more into shit test territory.
>>34166938Stupid motherfuckerShit tests are something the bottom 25% of women do (or maybe even less). Reflect on why you only date the bottom 25% of women.
>>34166947>t. future cuckold
>>34166938>If she met up at the bar and then mentioned how she didn't feel like drinking then it would veer more into shit test territory.makes sense>>34166947i don't think it's like thati think women have an impulse to shit-test, but some do it fucking constantly & others once in a while when they feel insecureshit-testing comes from insecurity, and "lower quality women" might be insecure all the time
or depending on the circumstances, obviously
>>34166951True. Every good 4chan loser knows the best way to avoid being a cuckhold is just to never have sex with a woman.
>>34166958Shit testing comes from insecurity and not having any good adult role models as a child. Don't hang out with these people, don't date these people, don't waste your time on them. Date good and kind people who, even if they're insecure, won't think of trying to "shit test" you.There's a fucking lot of them out there, so if you're only dating shit testers it's because you too probably have maladaptive behaviours and like attracts like.
>>34166971Why are you so butthurt? Sticking up for hoes is just being straight up feminine, I wouldn't brag about having sex if you're doing it by getting up up the butthole by other men.
>>34167016Feminine faggot shit. All women "shit test," just because OP is a retard autist that doesn't know what it means, doesn't mean it's not a real phenomenon.>Shit testing comes from insecurity and not having any good adult role models as a child.It comes from a woman's inherent need to make sure she's with a masculine man that can handle the world.
>>34167029>Why are you so butthurt?You not getting bitches doesn't make me butthurt. I'm quite ambivalent about it, actually.>Sticking up for hoes is just being straight up feminineCalling you an autistic loser has nothing to do with sticking up for hoes. You get no bitches and it shows.
>>34167041>All women "shit test,"How many women have you slept with, how many women have you been in relationships with and what was your longest relationship?
>>34167041Shit sticks to shit. You're the kind of loser who hangs out with losers so you've only ever met shit testing women. Stay in your hell if you want.
OP I think you're shit testing yourself. You're looking for proof that she isn't actually into you.Wait, this thing where you decide that if she was really into you she wouldn't have changed her mind about drinking...isn't this you shit testing her?
>>34167050>reddit spacing>hurr durr you incel!I'm the guy that fucks your girl when you believe her when she says "I'm just going out with friends" you fucking simp.>>34167079I'm the kind of guy whose cum you taste when you kiss your girl
>>34167392Oh so you’re a fictional character
>>34164422OP here. I just came back from the date. It was nice. We made out. She just texted me “home :)”
>>34167699Told you
>>34167699You've got to seriously look at your insecurities and figure out how to move past them. The number one reason I hear why a girl stops seeing a guy is because he's a fucking 4chan freak who refuses to believe he's good looking or good in bed or desired. (This is because the women I know are autists who date other autists, but this encompasses you so you should listen)
