I am in the second half of my 20s now and it really sucks because I am so unconfident about my body. ive always struggled with my weight due to being autistic and unathletic so I never tried hard at sport. I like watching boxing and combat sports but I'm far too frail to do it and I cant be bothered for a humiliation ritual honestly. First time I lost weight I was 15, lost a bunch of weight by not snacking and eating one meal a day and it worked but then went through trauma gained it all backage 16 I did the same thing and had to walk 45 minutes to college several days a week so I lost even more than the previous year, but eventually had friends take me to college in their car and I kept binging food and drinking loads.Age 19 I did keto and lost a bunch of weight in months but then covid started and I gained it all back plus drinking loads as wellage 20 I did something very dumb to lose weight, lets just say I was being a teenage white girl. It worked but I looked unwell and gross due to drinking.I am trying to think now if there were any other moments in time if I lost weight but thats about it, almost 6 years ago was the last time I lost weight and that was unhealthy means. I am fatter than ever and have no idea how I'm going to get this off. I lose faith very quickly and if I try eating a diet of health foods and go gym I will burnout after a few days as I dont know what being fit and healthy feels like. Idk what to do, should I try keto again? What is the secret here? Can someone for god sake help a fat bastard like me look good before I lose all my hair and have no respect from anyone? You may say, go to fitness threads but they just seem to be a bunch of normies that have for some reason found their way to 4chan so their advice is only for non-freaks
>>34218855Honestly bro just stop eating. Do not eat. No snacks no meals nothing. Do the bare minimum food and nutrient thing to sustain not dying that the actor guy did for that skinny role, i think only coffee and one apple and one tuna can a day or something. I'm telling you how you can lose weight for sure, it's not easy it's probably not healthy but it will make you thinner and you most likely wont die from it And once you are at healthy weight, then you have to just power through the rest of your life with willpower to not stuff your face with shit food, which also will be hard and on top of that will never end until you die. But it will work.
>>34218875Not OP, but fuck you.
>>34218855>What is the secret here? Do you have an eating disorder? Or you think you do? I.e: binging while emotional and unreasonable cravings. What about your eating habits? Do you cook? Properly eat or just "gulp" it?Also, gym isn't the only way to get fit. >You may say, go to fitness threads[...]You don't have to - the advice is all the same.
See this bread: >>34215121Losing weight is actually very "easy", it's a shame that shows like Biggest Loser or that viral Chinese fatcamp tiktok make it seem like it's going to be some terrible ordeal that takes hours in the gym and divine levels of willpower to achieve.More than anything else, you just need to get used to feeling slightly "down", and with a "pit" in your stomach. After 1-3 days of gaslighting yourself, you'll feel weird if you don't have that slight hungry feeling, if that makes sense.As another anon said, you need to make a meal PLAN, and stick to it. Don't post facto log your calories and try to guess things, plan out your meals, and log your weight daily. Using skills picked up in pre-algebra, you can then adjust your calorie intake to achieve your desired level of weight loss. That's the entire game.Unlike other suggestions, you do not have to step foot in a gym at all, although getting 8000 - 15000 steps a day consistently is a cheat code. Most phones now automatically log your step count so there is no excuse anymore. 10K steps is like 90 minutes of deliberate walking, it seems like a lot but if you just break it up and add 5 mins here and there you'll automatically get it.Last, if you get hungry, realize that hunger comes in waves. Make yourself a mint or herbal tea if it's really bad, but otherwise just distract yourself and let the feeling passover, you'll be back to normal baseline in like 10-15 minutes.GL, fat people are disgusting and the fewer the better.
>>34218875>Just stop eatingThis can literally kill you if you are already overweight and pre-diabetic. Most actors that go through severe body and habit changes, whether over eating or under eating describe the process as dangerous, even Christian Bale (your tuna apple coffee guy) stopped drastic fluctuations due to the strain it put on him.>“When you push your body to those extremes, it's not just your body that suffers, but your mind as well,” -Christian Bale >“As it turns out, that impacts your psychology, and you really start to go mad when you lose that much weight in that amount of time,” - Joaquin Phoenix The problem with weight in the US isn't one of ignorance. It's tied to addiction, repression and depression. Before you focus on your weight, you have to focus on why you are where you are. Tackle food mentally before you go through the ordeal physically. >>34218961https://www.health.harvard.edu/diet-and-weight-loss/lessons-from-the-biggest-loser#:~>Over the following six years, the combined effects of these hormonal changes conspired to make the contestants regain much, if not all, of the weight they'd lost. But the truly shocking part was that their leptin and metabolism levels never rebounded to what they had been before the show. In fact, the more weight a contestant lost, the worse his or her slow metabolism became. This explains why weight regain was inevitable, even though they were eating less food than ever." Harvard MedicalGoing on crash diets is terrible for your metabolism, at the end of the day the body will rubber band (as shown by OP's post) from fad diets.>Ok then how is he supposed to loose weight?Focus on your mental health (for example childhood trauma around eating or exercise) and find the root of why you eat. Then substitute negative habits with more positive ones. If you want to start boxing, get a bag or find a boxing gym and make friends that are or were in a similar place. Have fun and enjoy working out.
>>34218994You have the reading comprehension of a third worlder
>>34218994You didn't had to write an essay, you just could've sarcastically said that he solved obesity.What do you think he's going to say next? That this is "thermodynamics" and "calories are calories". And now you're stuck in an endless and pointless word soup fight...It's very obvious fasting doesn't work well and isn't sustainable. Otherwise there wouldn't be a million variations of that and doctors would simply tell you to do that.
>>34219021I chose the actors you said were sources without a direct quote and cited Harvard. Do you have any sources on why drinking and smoking is a great crash diet? >“I came up with the absolutely brilliant method of just smoking cigarettes and drinking whiskey to lose weight,” -Christian Bale
>>34219032The point is, getting actually healthy requires you to have a positive mindset and focus on doing exercise you enjoy rather than focusing on hurting or starving yourself because others think you are ugly. Eating junk and living in a sedimentary life are not healthy, so find things to get yourself into an active life. I enjoy foraging in the woods and cooking my own meals without a recipe with wild ingredients. I love to climb and swim where I live because I have access to those things. There's so much you can do to be healthy, like riding a bike to the store instead of driving. Or planting a garden rather than getting fast food. The goal here is, replace bad habits with good ones. That way when you work out or eat healthily, you feel good. There's tons of reddit tier advice out there like:>If you want to Pavlov yourself, jack off after working out. Wire your mind to crave exercisebut at then end of the day, only you can really make things better. So, enjoy life and have fun in a way that makes you more healthy. OP should get into boxing, because that's what they enjoy. If they tries and fail, then they can move on and try something new until they find something perfect for them.
>>34218924They are emotional and unreasonable cravings yeah. I dont know if I have a disorder, maybe I do since I will get to late in the night and have the overwhelming urge to buy a bunch of mcdonalds and absolutely scoff it. Two burgers, nuggets and cheese dips so yeah. Fat cunt me
>>34218961I tried intermittent fasting and all that back in the day. Problem I had was overdoing the coffee and water so I would be pissing and shitting constantly. It was extremely uncomfortable and honestly mate its the meal plan and the food side in general that makes this so hard.
>>34219064Do you think you're able to make some changes at your own pace? I'm sure you're smart enough to know what to do - the question is: can you commit to? Or find creative and self-tailored ways to change these habits?
>>34218994>find a boxing gym and make friends that are or were in a similar placehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIWHvPP0U64On a more serious note I know how this metabolism thing feels. I am naturally supposed to be skinny (my body type I mean) I am not a big guy and a lot of the time my actual weight is hidden by the fact I have thin arms and legs. The problem with the heavy bag (though I do have one) is the fact the last time I tried it I hurt my hands despite having gelatin hand wraps and 16oz gloves. As a musician I dont want to fuck up my hands which are the only things that bring me joy.
>>34219057In the UK, only nasty villains box and the good people are often in the upper echelons that I dont have the money to access. I am too fragile to box and thats a fact. I agree with you however. I am afraid of the world
>>34219092Ive tried for years mate and thats the problem. I get disheartened so easily because Im not getting a sudden dopamine fill (seems simple enough) so what I do is overthink about how good the fill would feel until I break. It happens every time because I am a socially ill loser who never goes out and has no friends to hang out with or gfs to distract me. So I blinked and now I'm going on 26 having let myself get to almost 300lbs. I just wish some former or current chud whos lost the weight could tell me how they did it. Ive tried my own pace before, I would walk every day for an hour at least and eat one meal a day (trying to mimick what i did at college) and I'd get on the scale end of the week and my weight either didnt move or actually moved up a bit. Its the single most disheartening thing you can ever see for an ADHD/autism riddled guy like myself. I want to change so badly man
>>34219099>>34219107>to fragile to fight a bag, even with wraps. Interested in music.I'd say try to find where to bridge the gap between music an exercise then. Try drumming or take some time to bike your instrument out to a public place to play like a park or the woods. If you can tie dopamine to playing an instrument, then try to incorporate it into your exercise.
