nah...you should do absolutely nothing, just keep your thoughts as thoughts

>>34222325 although, you are both still teenage children in the timescales of a human life, you should heed this: >>34222346 and do nothing

>>34222325
16 is ruff 17 is less bad.
Age by numbers isn't magic but still both are too low. Avoid.

>>34222325
Yes, it is normal to find teenagers who are most of the way through puberty, if not all of the way, attractive. People don't just grow adult human bodies at 18 and it is normal to be attracted to adult human bodies.
People go fucking insane with this nowadays, calling them children. It's insane, obviously there is a difference between a toddler and a 17 year old.
This is unlikely to change OP, whether you're 19 or not, because they're not going to stop essentially having developed sexual characteristics just because you're getting older.
Here's what you shouldn't do:
1) Pursue them, even if it is legal where you live. Whether correct or not, it is just not worth putting up with the attitudes today. If you were even older it would not be even a question, personally I think 19 and 17 is nothing but some people will want to lynch you.
2) Fixate on girls this age in any way. Yes, they may have developed sexual characteristics, and it's normal to happen to find girls in this range attractive, but fixating on girls *because* they are in this age range is in danger of slipping lower. Under no circumstances should you collect photos of teen girls or anything like that, and if you see them in public you should try to ignore them. When there are other women out there, again it is not worth it.
3) Talk about this with anyone IRL. I can admit all of this because it is anonymous. I can reassure you that this is normal. However, the way things are right now, and the way people get deranged on this subject, you have to just play the social game and pretend that girls are invisible until they turn 18. Be careful.

>>34222325
JFC you're 19 not 29. You're both still kids. I have no fucking clue why you'd even be concerned about this unless this is rage bait to draw out the faggot feminists to waste people's time (which it is).
>>34222346
>>34222489
>>34222557
And here are the faggot feminists in question

>>34222592
I'm >>34222557
All I said was not to pursue them and be careful what to say because of current attitudes on this subject, how is that feminist?

>>34222672
>how is that feminist?
that anon is trolling, your replying to a troll

>>34222557
>People don't just grow adult human bodies at 18

I mean they kind of do. I used to do part-time work as IT engineer in my late 20s/early 30s at a couple of high schools and used to see the same students for weeks on end and I will tell you for a fact that 16 year olds still look like kids but once they hit 18 it's like they changed overnight. It's like those media tropes about girls who who you haven't seen for a couple of years who are suddenly "all grown up" and got hot. So I think it's perfectly normal to think 18 year olds are sexy but 16 year olds are kind of "whoa slow down there buddy".

>>34222325
lol that's normal, and the body of a 16yo and a 19yo are most of the time the same so you're not even attracted to something out of your own age rage appearance wise
I'd still refrain from approaching them if you're:
1 poor and can't bribe idiots meddling or take her to private places
2 your country is too autistic about it
3 you're too dumb and love to flaunt your success, people are always watching and envious people will always find reasons to ruin you
otherwise go for it.

>>34222847
Our bodies don't know when the age of consent is. Puberty is gradual. There's spurts but no one is going to perfectly suddenly sprout at 18. I've been the same since 16 and so have most of my friends.
This seems like some kind of weird attempt to reconcile current social norms with a reality that doesn't match by trying to forcibly fit some anecdote, but it doesn't actually work like that or hold up to logic.

>>34222897
>no one is going to perfectly suddenly sprout at 18
I meant to say that *not everyone is going to perfectly suddenly sprout at 18

I would venture to say that actually that is very uncommon

>>34222325
>Is it weird
No
>what do you think i should do about it
pursue them, but keep your dick in your pants until she turns 18 (or whatever the AoC is in your area, but be careful because sometimes the AoC comes with conditions like you must have been dating before you turned 18, or you must be married, or your ages must be between 2 years of each other etc).

>>34224035
Weird but in many countries the age of marriageability is often higher than the age of consent; it is as though the law wants to encourage premarital sex.

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I see there's a wealth of pedobears in here who are advising op to entertain the idea of pursuing this girl

don't do it anon

go find a girl OF AGE who shares the similar youthful visual appearance of this minor you fawn over

grooming and pursuing a minor is PEDO SHIT

>>34224252
Lmfao.

>>34222672
>All I said was not to pursue them and be careful what to say because of current attitudes on this subject, how is that feminist?
Because there's zero reason to not pursue over such a miniscule age gap
>>34222767
And you are a retard, I am replying to a retarded person

>>34222325
YES, it's fucking normal.

And Yes, you shouldn't let society dictate your feelings because some retarded feminist got raped 50 years ago and politicians snowballed to cling to their positions.

When you start feeling shame over your feelings like everyone here is telling you to do, to bury them etc, you are planting a seed of doubt. You're planting insecurity and that will grow into a festering swamp of shit in the future.

If you have a teenager you're in love with, tell her about it, and tell her it's illegal to share anything sexual with you, in the meantime. Not because you don't trust her, but because you can't trust your life to anybody who isn't family. You are allowed to date her, to get to know her, even physical contact as long as it's not your or her genitals. What you really ought to do is, make her parents aware of your feelings and your seriousness. If all see a good fit in you, you can marry them when they are 18. But unless you have already fallen in love with someone you know closely, searching for one is poison.

Yes, everyone is your enemy in this situation, everyone is an enemy to your nature. That's the world we live in and you're powerless. You're not the one at fault, you will not hear anything that isn't "don't do it, it's immoral". Sex is seen as entertainment in this age, and that's what people are pretending (and failing) to protect minors from. Law is an institution whose business is to harm and people are trying to protect you from it when they say you should stay within it's bounds. It's also illegal to tell you otherwise. You are alone in no man's land. Either you brave and find your way by the light of virtue, or you get away from it. It makes zero sense but that's a boundary and someone holds a sword on the other side, and really wishes you could cross it to kill you, nothing would make them happier.

>>34222897
Objectively ages 18-25 are ideal child bearing age. Women need bodyfat for sustaining the baby and for their hips to keep widening, both of which can happen significantly in just a few years.
18 is a natural age of consent
>I've been the same since 16 and so have most of my friends.
Just because you're a hormonally-destroyed, perpetually indoors zoomer doesn't mean that's natural

>>34222325
Who cares. Don't break the law, don't break ethics or whatever. Otherwise do whatever.

>>34224285
>18 is a natural age of consent
18 is fine, but this is cumbrain opinion. Your opinion comes from porn.

there's no age were pursuing a minor is permissible...not 19, 30, 45, 60. You fuck with minors now and you'll be fucking with minors when you get older.

I forgot 4chan will always have a heavy population of pedoshills

>>34224313
Seems to have a high population of virtue signalling larpers these days

>>34224285
The ideal childbearing age is irrelevant when it comes to attraction. Puberty ends before that. Human attraction is not based on a perfect statistical analysis of when the best time to breed is. The only relevant factor is when sexual characteristics stop developing, and for most people that's 15-17.
Note I didn't have to resort to made up personal insults to make my point.
This seems to be an extremely sensitive subject for you and you're grasping at random facts to vaguely fit current social trends again. I don't think you're able to think about this rationally.

>>34224321
jakes on you, I don't know what any of those words mean faggot

>>34224313
4chan has always had libertarianism and freedom of speech as its central tenet, the dregs of society gather here rejected by social norms, sometimes for not knowing when it was the norm to break the norm, so all we have to work with is to doubt the world.

We have had people having fun, people ranting, and in the last decade plain racists and bootlickers started getting vocal. Today it's stranger to find someone who will doubt the norm and take his own conclusion than conformists, and this thread is evidence of it.

What's wrong with dating a teenager? The fact that the girl gets pregnant and financially ruined and outcasted? The implication that all romances must involve sex as an obligation? The idea that sex mindbreaks a person? The idea that after an arbitrary age the soul darkens and corrupts and turns evil people of a lower number for talking to them? The fact that someone makes business out of ruining lives given the chance, which also implies your entire life is spent under threat?

Which is it? Can you elaborate the idea beyond "it's taboo and you will be an outcast if you do it"? Or is questioning it taboo as well?

>>34224302
>Your opinion comes from porn.
It comes from anatomy.
>>34224347
Unless you're a degenerate sex is for making babies
>Note I didn't have to resort to made up personal insults to make my point.
Brother it's not an insult, it's a biological fact. If you're an adult and you look the same as when you did as a teenager, you're just physically stunted. A lot of zoomers are. Doesn't give you license to justify pursuing underage girls as a 25 year old.
>This seems to be an extremely sensitive subject for you and you're grasping at random facts to vaguely fit current social trends again. I don't think you're able to think about this rationally.
This is some heavy, heavy projection right here coming from the guy who's trying to defend indulging in attraction to young teenage girls.
>YOU'RE the one with something wrong with you for pointing out I hold a degenerate view!
Are you a Nick "Epstein's biggest fan" Fuentes follower, by any chance?

>>34224313
4chan is filled with sexually unsuccessful social rejects. Some of these rejects, as a mating strategy, pursue women who have zero experience with adult life i.e. children because it's easier to hide the fact you're a desperate loser who can't get laid normally.

>>34224444
>Brother it's not an insult, it's a biological fact. If you're an adult and you look the same as when you did as a teenager
What I meant was we were done puberty at that point. Our dicks were done growing and we're all the same height.
>Doesn't give you license to justify pursuing underage girls as a 25 year old.
And I've specifically said not to pursue them. My only point is that it's natural to be attracted to adult bodies, and that doesn't mean you have to pursue them. We are talking about literal post-pubescents and people who have bodies indistinguishable from adults.
You don't seem to be able to handle the fact that they have adult bodies. Maybe you're worried that if you accepted that fact, you would pursue them, but I don't have that problem. I have the self control to ignore them.

>>34224313
>pedoshills
Pedophilia is attraction to pre-pubescents.
We are talking about post-pubescents. The only definition they're not adults under is the law.
If you can't tell the difference between a toddler and a 17 year old, seek help.

>>34224465
>What I meant was we were done puberty at that point. Our dicks were done growing and we're all the same height.
Wow that's quite a different statement from what you said
>>34222897
>I've been the same since 16 and so have most of my friends.
>I've been the same

>You don't seem to be able to handle the fact that they have adult bodies.
I'm arguing that they very much don't when it comes to the one thing that adult bodies need to do, which is effectively make children
>And I've specifically said not to pursue them.
You're telling that to a guy who is one year out from being a legal adult, as someone who's pretty clearly farther from being an adult.
>Maybe you're worried that if you accepted that fact, you would pursue them, but I don't have that problem. I have the self control to ignore them.
Only one of us is trying to make an argument for being attracted to young teenagers, projection and deflection might work in your social circles but not with someone who has two braincells to synapse together.

It is retarded to say two teenagers within a couple of years of each toerh, can't date each other. It's also retarded to say that a 15 year old woman is indistinguishable from a 19 year old woman. Two things can be true at once, and if you can't accept that it's unironically a sign of very low IQ.

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>>34224470

>>34224506
We're not even talking about ephebophilia. We're talking about attraction to fully sexually developed bodies. There isn't a philia to describe that because it's normal.

I know ay least one person in here is a sex offender

>>34224502
>an argument for being attracted to young teenagers
See there's the problem, people ARE attracted to adult bodies, arguments about whether they SHOULD are irrelevant. All I'm saying is it's normal, don't beat yourself up about it, but don't do anything about it or fixate on it either.

>>34224516
>See there's the problem, people ARE attracted to adult bodies
No matter how much you try to rail about it, a 15 year old female body is not the same as an 18 year old female body. It's a medical fact backed up by countless studies on mortality of first childbirth with age, which you are more than welcome to research yourself.
The fact that you are persistently denying reality to justify your attraction to young teenage women is frankly unsettling.

>>34224519
Who said anything about 15 year olds? OP specifically mentioned 16-17 year olds which is the end of puberty. 15 year olds can be completely through puberty but it is less common.