I really should've been born female man, this shit is just fucked up. My mom wanted a girl, everyone in the family was expecting me to be a girl and I fucked up by having XY chromosomes instead of XX. I'm 27, engaged to a woman who is very beautiful and attractive but I don't really want to be WITH her. I want to BE her. I thought getting laid would cure me of these thoughts but it didn't work. I thought going to the gym and getting fit would help me be at peace being a man but it only made things worse. I have no desire to medically transition. Being trans is not ideal and will not solve my problem. I want to live my life over from the beginning as a biological girl. I can't do that though so what are my options? How do I become more comfortable in my own body? I'm gonna be stuck like this until the day I die.
become a furry and get a feminine fursuit
What would you do as a beautiful woman? How would you live?Why does a vagina make or break these aspirations?
>>34360323I would live freely, I would embrace my femininity, I would be comfortable in my own skin. Instead of being forced to live as the hairy man-beast that I am now.
>>34360323>>34360337I should add, that my life wouldn't even need to be perfect in this scenario. I don't care if I'm struggling physically or financially or whatever. As long as I am comfortable in my own skin. As long as I can look in the mirror and feel like the person in the reflection actually is me.
>>34360314high test intensifies paraphilic desires, this is why the gym made things worse.You will never become comfortable and trannyism will only ruin your life and make things worse, of course.What can happen is that the desire may shift. People thing that the version of themselves they currently are mentally is the last one but that's not it. There is a chance that by marrying, living your marriage, big things happen, your paraphilic desire will shift towards something else.>tl;dr: you just need to accept you're gonna suffer for now
>>34360323>>34360337>>34360341>Why does a vagina make or break these aspirations?last response, and this is going to sound weird but... I just think vaginas are more aesthetically appealling. Simple as that. Penises and Balls look stupid and ugly as fuck. They look alien on me, like they don't belong on my body at all. I don't want to go through gender-confirmation surgery or whatever because I don't like how the end result looks and isn't even close to the real thing. Why should I go through all that pain just for something that should've been mine at birth?I want everything that comes with being female, physically and mentally, including the ability to become pregnant.
>>34360314Literally meditate. Gender dysphoria is an intrusive thought, but not the normal type of intrusive thought, it is an unconscious thought that lives deep within your spinal cord. Your sacral nerves contain important beliefs about your self-identity and your role in community settings, and somehow they got corrupted to make you believe you are a woman when in reality you are a man. Trust me, it happens to the best of us. Look into meditation, stop smoking weed and if you let yourself, you can become cured through will alone.
>>34360314>engaged to a woman who is very beautiful and attractive but I don't really want to be WITH her. I want to BE her.Holy shit, get out of this relationship ASAP and tell her this before shit hits the fan.I haven't heard of anything good ever come out of a situation like yours.If she is completely straight, you're just stringing her along for the ride for no good reason. Most straight women immediately file for divorce if their partner came out as trans or was interested in a lesbian relationship.Please for the love of God don't have kids with her or marry her unless she's OK with you transitioning or not. If she isn't, don't just cope until you can't handle it.It's not worth your time or hers. She deserves somebody better and stable, and you deserve to have somebody who is OK with your desires.
>>34360543Also most women want to be with a man who loves her and wants to be with her, not skinwalk her and use her as a vanity prop. It's selfish and unloving, incredibly narcissistic to boot. Please reconsider your engagement.
Fucking same.I see beautiful women in the street, at the mall, at work, wherever, and I think "nothing I could do with/to her would satisfy me as much as being her". I find femininity in general very inspiring.But it's not like I want to transition. Too much work and–sorry if this offends anyone–I would always know I'd never be a real woman. So it's just this desire I've had since I was like 15, and more than a decade later it's still there, and I can do nothing about it.Mostly venting. Anyway. I feel you OP.
>>34360318Even better, do what I do and become a furry and wear a female 3d avatar, and maintain a clear separation of fantasy and reality.
>>34360314Holy shit Anne Hathaway is so fucking hot
you have autogynephilia. try jacking off in womans clothing, ask your woman if she will peg you while you wear it
>>34360314Obviously you were born in the wrong body. This happens sometimes, and the only fix is to reset everything and try again with suicide. Worst case scenario, you'll isekai into one of your animes and be a princess there. But ideally, you'll get a do-over in this life as a beautiful woman. FACT: Anne Hathaway was an ugly guy named Steve before he reset to this current timeline.
>>34361246Is autogynephilia just a fetish?
>>34360314You will never be a woman.
>>34360584It's nice to know I'm not alone in this feeling lmao. It's so bizarre and almost inconsolable. The female form is so beautiful, women are like angels. We were denied access to paradise.>>34360363>stop smoking weedI don't smoke weed>>34360543>Please reconsider your engagementI have thought about it but I won't do this. I have no intention of transitioning so I'm not going to string her along and suddenly become trans after we're married. I DO love her as a person and I believe after enough time being together my priorities can shift. I think >>34360358 actually put it pretty well.>There is a chance that by marrying, living your marriage, big things happen, your paraphilic desire will shift towards something else.I figure that by marrying her and being a good husband to her, maybe my desire to be a woman will disappear or lessen just a bit. Maybe I'll become more comfortable with myself in this marriage.>>34361611and this is why I will never transition. I have way too many "mannish" features. None of the women in my family look anything like this. I don't want to go through the long and painful journey of medically transitioning just for the vague hope that I *might* be slightly more comfortable in my body by the end.
>>34361763yeah no shit einstein, that's my fucking problem
>>34360337yeah so if you were born with a vagina, you would still be hairy. you would have to shave it or laser it off which you still can do. femininity is a performance and there is quite literally nothing stopping you from performing it.having a vagina doesn't mean you can have kids. you could be born with a whole bunch of other problems that cause infertility or you could be ugly as hell. most of these stupid autogynophilic fantasies are missing the piece where it don't fantasize about being a woman, you fantasize about being a top 1% attractive woman with literal inhuman criteria like lack of sweat, hair, periods, etc etc so please shut the fuck up and throw on the dress.
>>34360314>How do I curb my desire to be a beautiful woman?I think all men have thought about being women and all women have thought about being men. In your case, this seems to be a frequent thought; I recommend you just ignore it, since there are no other options.
By knowing that the vast majority of people won't think you are beautiful or a woman. And many that do say you are, are only being fakely supportive.If
>>34361782>you fantasize about being a top 1% attractive woman with literal inhuman criteria like lack of sweat, hair, periods, etc etcNot even remotely close to being true. I DO want all that shit. I already live with severe chronic pain so I do not care about periods. That is small potatoes to me. I want the whole thing. I want the biological female experience, not the trans-female experience. I believe these are two completely different things.
>>34361769It's not a problem. You're the problem.
>>34361850Being a man fucking sucks I can't lie
>>34360359>but why does 2+2 have to be 4??retard that's because you're wired correctly by God. why the fuck would he make you male, but attracted to yourself? of course vaginas are more appealing to you, that's the way it's supposed to be. Jesus.
This sucks to hear. I’m a woman who has hit the wall. I have similar thoughts of being young
>>34362274There's no such thing as god you actual inbred dumbfuck
>>34362282how old are you
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bumping because i am interested too
>>34360323>Why does a vagina make or break these aspirations?Aren't female orgasms meant to be like mindblowingly amazing and they can orgasm multiple times? For men we just get 5 seconds of joy and then that's it and your dick and balls feel sore and completely numb until the refractory period ends
>>34362282I also have been experiencing similar hang ups of late. In my 30s and a part of me wishes I hadn't taken my youth for granted.Is it wanting to be desired that grates on you?Or feeling like you have unfulfilled potential and less time to achieve it?Maybe something else entirely?
>>34367642this
>>34367642Yes they can have repeated orgasms, but the feeling is not as strong, since there is less dopamine to be released. It feels more like a whole body orgasm rather than just in your dick.
dont u think u have self esteem issues?trans from ftm also think the same they just probably have fucked up brain chemistry do u have some kind of unresolved trauma or something?there isnt a right answer you wont be ever fulfilled by wtv choice u make unless u fix the main stuff its like a teenage kid asking to have a gf because he is so alone and depressedhave said gf nor being the girl itself wont fix you as corny as it sounds dig deep inside you and see the main cause of this problem
>>34371500That is a retarded thing to compare since you have no way to switch between a man and a woman at the character select screen.
>>34367642they're mindblowingly amazing in the porn men consume, it's actually like maybe 8 seconds of joy and that's it
would you say you don't like men and that's why you don't want to be seen as one?
>>34367642Fucking why do these myths get propagatedProbably to sell more coomerismsA female orgasm is the exact same as a male orgasm physiologicallyAll that other bullshit is just mysticism to sell more boobs to you
>>34374283kind of? I was raised with the belief that women are angels and men are lower creatures. I think most of us have that belief instilled in us from an early age. I think growing up I really resented that this was my place in life, to be down in the gutter with the rest of the rats when I really wanted to be "one of the girls". This is why I feel that transitioning will not help me, because they will never accept me. To them I will always be the wolf in sheep's clothing.
>>34361766>I don't smoke weedGood, now start meditating. I bet you won’t.
Just go to prison and be a turn out
>>34367642I'm male and I can have multiple orgasms.
Have you tried at all to be feminine? Get skinny, grow your hair out, use makeup, anything? It's fairly socially acceptable these days.
>>34382412I am athletic build, clean shaven (though sometimes I keep a beard) and have pretty long hair. It helps a little but doesn't make me feel like a woman. Just an androgynous man. I don't society is completely accepting yet. If I as a man wore makeup, dressed in high heels and wore dresses I would still be ridiculed and denied opportunities.
>>34383509*I don't think
I used to have these thoughts. uhh.I didnt really transition but I just kinda started living my life the way i wanted to. I grew out and took care of my hair until i liked it. I mostly buy girls clothes because they fit better, not like a giant femboy dress or anything but yknow, clothes that I feel attractive in, nice coats and jackets and turtlenecks and stuff. I wear earrings and makeup regularly.Im basically a femboy? Maybe a classier version of one cause I dont go "nya" for men on the internet.Now I dont have those thoughts because I look in the mirror and think like "yeah im hot". Not necessarily in a hyper feminine way, and not in a manly way.Im just hot the way I like to be and because Im not a paraphillic degenerate noone really gives me shit not even my parents. People either assume Im gay or going for the kpop and regardless Im chill.Although I never really looked masc, I have an ultra twink hourglass build and a neotenous face. If i start looking mascer past my 20s (im 25 now) I might just age up my style or I might go on HRT who knows. Not too worried about it right now.
>>34383764>People either assume Im gay or going for the kpopAre you Asian?
>>34383933chinese but born and living in south east asia
>>34360584>>34360314john 50
>>34387596who is john 50?
Try carnivore diet and do some basic weightlifting and see if you feel different. That fixed my tranny fantasies. Our chemical environment is fucked up.Second thing that is fucked up is that we have grown up in man-hating culture and taught men to act like women all our life. All the qualities that naturally rise from men are considered "toxic". For most people, including men, fitting in is more important, so it's not surprising people don't want to be men anymore.
>>34360314>I'm 27, engaged to a woman who is very beautiful and attractive but I don't really want to be WITH her. I want to BE her.She needs to knowYou're wasting her time and nuking your chances of being with someone who wants to be with you from existent to zero
>>34361766>I have no intention of transitioning so I'm not going to string her along and suddenly become trans after we're marriedYou are trans
>>34389809Yea I can't speak for OP who has more serious dysphoria than I do but I hate being a man because society hates men. The thing that gets me is women don't even KNOW they hate men because they don't understand that the things they hate are part of being a man and can't be changed. If I could magically become a REAL women I would.>>34360314I sympathize OP, the only reason the tranny cult didn't get me is I know that the results of transitioning are shit and fake. Even a 99th percentile passing tranny is a fake.
>>34390227So what? He is straight too.
I don't understand what the problem with being a beautiful man is
>>34360314Wish I could help. Don't let them gaslight you.>be me, early 20s>feel like I want to be lady>see therapists with the goal of getting to the root of things>get affirmative care that just agreed with everything I said instead>eventually come out to parents>they ask a simple question, why do I want to be a girl>couldn't give a solid answer>go back to therapist, tell them how I came out>therapist is surprised, has no idea what to say/do for our session>realize therapist never actually wanted to help me figure shit out>independently realize my feelings stemmed from a feeling of powerlessness regarding the course of my life, which became greatly exaggerated due to bottling my shit up forever>mfw almost trans'd myself because therapists never pushed back or encouraged deeper contemplation on anything I told themThank God I only came out to my parents and didn't socially transition or get shot up with drugs.
>>34367642Weighing in here to say it’s a risk/reward kind of thing. Female orgasms probably are better but actually getting to that point is stupidly complicated and a lot of women go significant portions of their lives without really understanding how to masturbate, it’s why “woman orgasms for the first time with the help of a skilled individual” is such a common porn trope. Me personally I’d rather have “boring” consistent orgasms than never orgasming at all.Personally sex just seems like it kind of fucking sucks for women, given that it’s more dangerous for them + there’s usually some level of pain involved compared to men + the act of engaging in it tends to make people believe you’re inherently devalued or have less worth as a human as a result. No thanks.
>>34360314see a pyschologist.
>>34360314You're autogynephilic?
>>34390227Stop gaslighting.
>>34387807https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=John+50
>>34360314troon out brah there's no point to life if you're not even attempting to match your inner self
>>34360363But meditating is too difficult. I always fall asleep.
>>34392052im pretty sure it shouldn't be painful. that means something is going wrong, but i guess that works with what you said about it being stupidly complicated.
>>34360314You want that which you don't know, and you want that which is impossible. You understand that, I guess. That path is closed.For some reason this specific want is singled out and considered special in our society. It's not. You will eventually want to be young (see woman who hit the wall). You will want to be this, or that. You will want to not have cancer when you get cancer. That's life. Just come to terms with it. Your specific want, to be a woman, is no special from a myriad unrealistic wants out there. Enjoy what you have, or you will always be unhappy, even if you were a woman.
>>34389809>Try carnivore diet and do some basic weightlifting and see if you feel different. Tried and unfortunately has not worked at all. I feel that working out only intensifies these thoughts for some reason.>>34390227I don't want to be "trans" though>>34390421>I know that the results of transitioning are shit and fakeyeah I didn't want to say it because it might come across mean spirited but I've never really been 100% satisfied by what I've seen. Seems like you have to be really rich/lucky in order to get good results. Don't even get me started on trans vaginas, I really don't think they look anything like the real thing.>>34393473>You're autogynephillic?Yeah pretty much, I'll admit it. I mean no one *wants* to be an unattractive woman do they?>>34395100>Enjoy what you have, or you will always be unhappy, even if you were a woman.Genuinely, I think this is what I'll have to do. Maybe it's a case of "the grass is greener on the other side". If I was born female there's a chance I'd probably end up with reverse dysphoria and want to be a man (though I feel pretty confident that I'd be much happier as a girl). If I transition I know I'll NEVER be happy as it will never live up to my fantasy and I'd have to permanently cut off a huge chunk of my friends/family and end my relationship. It's just not feasible.I will continue to live my life and just try to be a hot guy. I will do the best I can and hope that upon death I will respawn in a parallel universe or some crazy shit like that.
>I don't want to be a man because society hates menhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHhuwLzYeNIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqPJiM5Ir3Ahttps://www.youtube.com/@alexandergrace5350These resources should help you understand the depth of the abuse and illuminate the fact that average women are extremely irrational and basically act like children.Also, as per second video, most people, including most men, are susceptible to mass-formation psychosis, that's why most men fall for it and encourage the regime as well.It's like letting it get to you when a child throws a tantrum and saying they hate you, and let a child make rules for you. Sure, we have appointed them in positions of power where they will use it against you, but if you understand the true nature of the circumstances, it should help you disregard the emotional part of the abuse and let you accept yourself as a normal man. It's a bit of a clown world, but it will likely crash and burn and get better eventually.The third channel it a bit of a hater, but very logical, and the examples should help you further refine your understanding of the nature of females and the irrational regime in case you aren't "radicalized" enough (accepting reality = radicalization)And even if you can't come to accept yourself yet, becoming trans (cosplaying a woman) in this worldwide cosplay event won't make people give you the sympathy that a real woman naturally evokes. It's just a play.
>>34382401cool bro
>>34360314>My mom wanted a girl, everyone in the family was expecting me to be a girl and I fucked up by having XY chromosomes instead of XXGod your family really fucked you up didn't they?First step is to get far away from anyone who ever told you they were expecting you to be a girl.
>>34360314The more you expose yourself to beautiful women on the internet, the more it skews your standards of beauty. If you spend all your time on the internet and expose yourself to beautiful people non-stop, you begin to think honestly good looking people is actually below average. Disconnect from media that shows you only beautiful people as much as possible. This includes, 4chan, porn, tv, video games, etc.
