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>>34616399
If i was a girl, I wouldn't be a whore. I know, tall claim.
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>>34616399
Amen
Moids, why haven't you given a woman a sweet treat?
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>>34616409
You're posting here, of course you would be a whore.
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Men aren't lonely enough.
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Can you stop posting pictures of attractive women I don't want to jerk off
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i need to clean my room
but i wont
hoarder
should kms
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Why do weirdo guys on 4chan say they want a girl who has no friends?

A girl having friendships is a good thing.
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>>34616418
they want a girl with no *male* friends.
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>>34616399
What are some things that appeal to female gaze that most guys think wouldnt?
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>>34616399
>just buy her a sweet treat it really is that easy!
>(also have a huge dick btw of course)
kek, based
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>>34616412
I'd want my moments to be special. My parts would be exquisite and rare. Think Dragon Ball Z Dragon Balls. My woman balls would be rare. Once in a life time.
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>>34616418
Because they're insecure abusers and friendless women are easy targets.
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>>34616399
How does she know she'd have a big dick?
Also she can date a woman and take her gf to have a nice dinner and a sweet treat or even her bf
But no she just wants someone to do it for her
Why are women like this?
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>>34616423
Being shy and a little nerdy.
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>>34616399
>those tits
She'd have a 3 inch pecker
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>>34616410
Put the fork down, hog.
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>>34616399
Small tit girl saying she’d have a huge dick you can’t fake this stuff
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>>34616418
i want a neurotypical turbo normie gf with a good relationship with her parents and a healthy friend group that hangs out a lot
basically everything i lack.
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>>34616426
I'd be hard pressed to say that wasn't the dude that got told to shut the fuck up by his wife that had them removed.
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>>34616418
M
No friends is a red flag but I'm not gonna berate her for having "too few friends" if her social circle is small.
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>>34616418
Females with male friends are whores 9 times out of 10. Females with female friends are fine but loser gf who only has bf for companionship appeals to male gaze.
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Hey ladies totally really not made up man here, rate me 10/10

>6’1”
>White
>30
>dark blue eyes
>brown hair, tidy, not balding
>I would rate my exes as 8, 7, 7
>athletic body
>I take steroids
>I care about dressing well but alternative
>I prefer being clean shaven or a few days of stubble
>barritone-bass voice
>stable white collar job, make ~100K a year
>currently live with housemates but saving for a house
>have my own car, paid off
>3 long term girlfriends, 1 year, 3 years and 6 years from 16-30
>very dominant and aggressive in sex
>My dick is 7” length, 6” girth
>I don’t have friends (zero)
>I don’t hate people but I find they just get in my way rather than add anything
>If I am dating you, you are my only social outlet and I will take great interest in you
>I have been told I come off as very confident/assertive despite being a very anxious/depressive person and I think it’s just my autism
>clinically tested IQ of 129
> I talk to my mother once a month, other family on special occasions. So family doesn’t have a lot of value to me
>I do want kids, I really want a daughter
>I don’t drink, smoke, or do drugs. I don’t mind if you do as long as you don’t hurt yourself (I.e no habitual or high risk)
>I enjoy drawing, reading non-fiction (I am currently plowing through an archaeologically annotated version of the Bible), learning Japanese, I attend weekly singing lessons
>Most of all I enjoy learning about new things and am very curious
>Politically I am not a progressive or conservative, AI labels me a “paternalistic ethnocentric nationalist”
>I am not religious. I like mainline Christians, dislike Muslims.
>I think abortion should be legal up to 20 weeks
>I am medicated for anxiety and depression
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>>34616418
I've seen her take dick
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>>34616432
No.
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>>34616399
Why is it that when I read r/trueuglywomen I feel sympathy but when women read incel stuff they try to rationalize why it’s the man’s fault?
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>>34616439
>has 3 exes
stopped reading there,
manwhore, instant 0/10
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>>34616418
I don’t care if she has friends, I hate that I’m forced to interact with them and I am evaluated on how I interact with them. I don’t fucking care about them.
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>>34616439
0/10
Go away this is not the place for this
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>>34616445
In group bias
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>>34616445
Because femcels don't commit violent crimes and aren't as loud and obnoxious as incels are.
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Girls.
I am absolutely spineless. How can I get you to want to know more about me if the first thing you see is someone fumbling words, being distantly polite, and getting carried by inertia?
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>>34616418
women make awful fucking friends, and more often than not every argument with your girlfriend is an argument with her plus her entire friend group
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>>34616430
Bullshit
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>>34616445
Because the matriarchy has us programmed to always feel sympathy towards young innocent women and feel nothing but disgust towards men
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>>34616445
because you're a woman, or a pathetic simp who thinks women are magic and special
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>>34616430
what about shy, nerdy, fat, and balding?
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>>34616439
You know guys, I know we’re all suffering here. I hate the fact that you prop up a failed normie as some gigachad. There’s 10 of these guys who aren’t fucked up in every insurance office in America
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>>34616452
You should try and make friends with some who just migrated to your country. They often are lonely and will be curious about you
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>>34616455
not bs, believe it or not, the macho cocky dominant personality that men think every woman will swoon over is actually not every woman's cup of tea. opposites dont always attract
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>>34616439
You're medicated, unable to fully commit, you only know how to act out pornography in sex, and you're neurotically egotistical. 0/10
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>>34616430
Can you explain that more?
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>>34616439
Says 6'1, so 5'11" irl
No friends is based, but steroids instantly makes you 3/10 max
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Why are the dudes such huge faggots today
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>>34616466
Sorry I'm not really paying much attention to the thread I'm looking at fountain pen ink
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>>34616465
Why would I lie about being 6’1 but not lie about taking steroids or having friends?
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>>34616430
>>34616455

She mean chad with glasses
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>>34616466
What do you mean, I'm a bitchy faggot bitchboy every day.
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>>34616430
i really want this to be true but I've still never seen any proof
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>>34616445
Women generally express sadness and internalize the feelings of not being chosen, which is far easier to sympathize with than incels who generally express anger and externalize and blame others.
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>>34616466
They always are.
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>>34616461
Does make you want to sleep with a guy though
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>>34616468
You think taking steroids is a flex.
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>>34616450
M
>>34616451
Incels don’t commit many crimes they’re artificially propped up as some terror group. If you read the sub they’re just as hateful of men and other women and pathetic as well
>>34616456
True
>>34616457
I feel the same about incels as I do femcels, sympathetic
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>>34616430
Shy nerdy
But also 6'5, beautiful hair, and naturally fit
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>>34616473
and incels hurt innocent people pretty often
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>>34616439
The bar is in hell god damn, you sound like you haven’t had an original thought since you were 5
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>>34616466
american hours? chemicals in the water? the gcp dot? ahhh im strongly interpreting it 1111111
>googles
oh nvm, catastrophic hardware failure, rip dot
thats a conspiracy.
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>>34616430
Remember guys, this only applies if you’re already attractive

If you’re unattractive this is creepy
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>>34616481
>the bar is in hell
>I'm worse than >>34616439
>this means I'm undateable to women ITT
interesting
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>>34616468
He did say his dick was nearly half an inch longer than it is. So there’s a history of massaging numbers
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>>34616445
F
I dont think its the individuals fault necessarily. I pity incels as a symptom of the patriarchy. Theyre collateral in a mens race, that really has little to do with women. Yet, they should be ultimately be held responsible for their hateful actions.
Agree with some of the other posters about the yee yee divine feminine shit tho.
>>34616439
Stop spamming
You sound socially inept. Dom men are nasty. Idk 7/10. Youll find someone.
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>>34616477
>Incels don’t commit many crimes they’re artificially propped up as some terror group
I'm tempted to bring up male crime rates, but too many anons want to turn those into a race war. Men in general are more violent than women, and zoomer incels are the only group of people who are in denial of this fact.
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>>34616484
>I'm worse than 34616439
You have no friends and you take roids?
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>>34616473
completely unproven hypothesis and pure confirmation bias
>>34616480
the actual statistic for incel hate crimes is pitifully low compared to the propaganda
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>>34616476
No I don’t. It’s just a factor that I think would be important for someone to consider since some people have a serious moral aversion to them and for me to get a genuine rating, I need to be totally honest. Why would taking steroids be a flex?
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>>34616488
My coworkers like me but I don't have friends
No roids I'm just fat
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>>34616486
>patriarchy
Stopped reading after that
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>>34616439
>I think abortion should be legal up to 20 weeks
nag but why does that matter when you're infertile from steroids
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>>34616489
who would have guessed that being a domestic terrorist gets you attention
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>new thread
>discussion quality immediately becomes about incels and slapfight nonsense
That's you, isn't it janny?
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>>34616487
nobody's arguing that men dont commit more crimes. but those men are low-inhib extraverts, not incels
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>>34616399
how long do your crushes last, girls (if there are any)? mine usually last months at a time. Id say 3-6 months on average.
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>>34616491
I like you more than him. You're not a conceited shit.
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>>34616493
>more cereal box propaganda
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>>34616469
By nerdy I mean guys like Paul Dano or Phillip Seymour Hoffman, not sure they'd be considered chad.
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>>34616498
i havent had a crush in 6 years
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>>34616483
>>34616479
>>34616475
You lot are miserable.
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>>34616486
>socially inept
Astute observation m’lady
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>>34616498
I'd say about the same as you, speaking in averages. I've had a couple on the extreme end. Crushes ending in a day or few, some lasting several years.
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>>34616501
you like dudes with big heads
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>>34616501
Oh and Henry Cavill, he acts in comic book movies and likes warhammer 40 k he’s my biggest crush
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>>34616504
>how dare you observe reality, stop this INSTANT
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>>34616399
What people say and what people do are different things, and considering the fact that women have terrible game, game so bad that bumble had to change its number one rule of women starting the conversation, I'd be willing to bet that most women would become incels if they suddenly transformed into men.
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>>34616509
you are pathetic and should kill yourself
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>>34616498
>having crushes after 25
If you're interested in someone you should be working towards knowing them and discovering if you should ask them out.
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>>34616515
nta but what if they're my cousin
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>>34616498
I haven't had a crush in so long I have no idea
>>34616501
I'd fuck Paul Dano
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>>34616511
FtM trannies verify this. Instead becoming CHAD, they turn into dumpy 5’5 framelets and can’t get a woman to look their way
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>>34616516
In that case that's fine, just let it be an unrequited crush but you should be working to get over it
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>>34616513
Why I just like nerdy guys I’m sorry I’m not into athletes
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>>34616460
I live in a shithole, people migrate out of here, not the other way round. Besides I'm already at that age where the only third space is the gym or work, and I'm a neet.
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>>34616479
Yes, exactly :heart eyes: :heart eyes:
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How do I avoid making women feel used after a ONS or a hookup? I don't want anything beyond sharing some orgasms and maybe to cuddle for a bit because it helps me sleep, but I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings you know
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>>34616521
ok, so stay on your room
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>>34616511
I think I'd be a 5'10, average dicked manwhore.
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>>34616497
>Introverts don't commit crimes!
Holy fucking cope.
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>>34616504
I'm just pragmatic
I was born with shit hair and the shit in have is going away at 25 so the boyish charm that you girls claim to like so much has always disappeared for me
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>>34616485
Then why would I admit to massaging that number but not the other number?
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Do women actually want to have their back rubbed during prone and doggy
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>>34616511
The chick in OP would be a fat faced incel, 100%
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>>34616528
>5’10
You’re not getting anything
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>>34616526
Be clear about your intentions of a ONS from the beginning and that anything more is off the table.
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>>34616533
No, tf
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>>34616529
crime in itself is extroverted behavior.
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Ayo where my balding dicklet manlet fubs at?
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>>34616532
Nobody can fully imagine what goes on in your brain because you're just toooo smart for us lowly brainlets to understand.
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>>34616538
>Literally changing definitions of words to fit our biases
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>>34616533
Like a massage? Fuck yeah. Massage into & during slow sensual prone bone is peak. Doggie not really the place for it I think.
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>>34616538
>tfw my internet piracy means I'm an extrovert
Later losers I'm going to a house party
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>>34616539
Right here, Quirk Chungus reporting for duty.
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>>34616532
Not enough push back. You admitted to dick lying after the thread was a circlejerk about 7 inch dick liars for 20 minutes. I’m not saying you’re lying about your height, only I wouldn’t be surprised.
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>>34616541
I agree.
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>>34616545
Shout out to (YOU) boo!
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>>34616487
>I'm tempted to bring up male crime rates,
Those aren't incels. Most incels are socially anxious shut in dorks. The low inhib thug dudes committing all the crime get tons of pussy.
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>>34616535
Nah I'd be fine. I have my woman's perspective to work with here I know I'm fine if I'm 5'8+ and not a whiny bitch about it.
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>>34616546
That still doesn’t make sense. How do you know I didn’t lie about the 6.7 number? It’s unverifiable. It’s anonymous.
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F
I think incel has just become too nebulous as a term to be useful anymore to be quite honest.
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>>34616549
>>34616529
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>>34616538
Explain? You can be an introverted shoplifter or arsonist tf are you talking about?
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>>34616447
Based
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>>34616550
>The I am All Women fallacy strikes again
You won't be attracting yourself, sweety
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Big dick atoga meetup
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>>34616550
Grok, pull up that lesbian that larped as a man for a year and thought “the best man, is a woman in a man’s body” and got her shit kicked in by reality and then killed herself
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>>34616498
My heart will go on for as long as I like.
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>>34616552
This is absolutely true. There's also no reason why this entire thread needs to start off with arguments about incels.
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>>34616552
The word "bad" used to mean "gay" or "effeminate male" and then people used it so much that it became a word that means poor in quality. The same thing is happening to the word 'gay' now.

Incel is getting flung around everywhere as a replacement for 'virgin' or 'misogynist' to the point it has lost its meaning
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>>34616556
I would though. 3/4 guys I dated were like 5'8, maybe a little smaller.
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>>34616552
Frustrating, given the root meaning of the term is so fucking simple to understand - involuntarily celibate. Doesn't really leave room for expanding the definition, ya? Now it's just applied to "angry avg/below avg looking male who hates women"
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>>34616552
Women just love using it to rile anger towards men so no one takes our concerns seriously
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>>34616558
NTA
We talking about the woman who didn't commit suicide until 16 years after her book got published, yet MRAs leave that detail out for their narrative?
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>>34616557
F
Are we invited
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>>34616564
>guys I dated
Again, failure to see the point
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>>34616529
Yes, they commit piracy and hack stuff, they aren't raping and murdering people. You inherently have to be low inhib and involved in interpersonal drama to do that.
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>>34616558
What’s even funnier about that whole experiment is that whilst she did fool a bunch of guys that she befriended, they all secretly thought that ‘he’ was a closeted homosexual.
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>>34616568
Yes
The girls get to judge
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>>34616558
That's a little bit of a disingenuous explanation of what happened don't you think?
Also obviously a trans man is going to be a lot less popular with cis women than a cis man. In this scenario I'm a cis man, grew my own dick and everything.
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>>34616558
When you claim she "killed herself" and imply she did it as a result of her experiment, you're doing your argument a disservice and cheapning the actual things she did learn about pretending to be a man. Her suicide was not caused by her experiences as a man, and you throw that in for dramatic effect,
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>>34616567
battling with the idea your entire world view and career as a feminist activist was actually wrong beyond your wildest dreams, yes I would expect that to take an extremely long time to sink in and fully accept
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>>34616550
You should make a 5'8" male profile on a dating app and give it a shot.
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koreaboos btfo
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>>34616557
how about everyone who attends has a neck hangs till failure competition?
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>>34616573
No, she was outwardly male. She looked male enough to fool other guys. She didn’t get laid at all.
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>>34616579
brehs...
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>>34616579
Fortunately I will never be this guy.
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>>34616557
I'm definitely invited. And so is >he.
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>>34616539
>>34616545
YO! ITS OOFY AND DOOFY! DO SOME TRICKS GUYS
>>34616551
When you admit to lying we take the admission as truth especially if it’s more believable than the original figure.
>how do you know I’m not lying about lying
Nobody knows anything technically we’re bored on a forum and engaging you because it’s something to do. You could well be trolling. It’s not like you’ve said anything unbelievable though.
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>>34616578
Do this plz fems and get a sex change ai filter
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Big BMI atoga meetup
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>>34616550
I’m with the other guy, go generate some AI pictures or ask a male friend if you can use his pictures and put 5’8 front and centre on your dating profile
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>>34616593
hot...
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>>34616593
I am also invited, but >he isn't. So I will not attend.
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>>34616569
I see it I just think it's stupid.
>>34616578
>dating app
Why would I use those. No wonder you guys are fucking miserable you're putting yourselves up for sale online and expecting to be treated like people not commodities.
>>34616583
Bro she looked like Arturo Castro who looks babyfaced and gay of course she didn't get any bitches. My teachers used to hit on my dad, I'd be okay.
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>>34616588
Biggest gets sucked by Swiss smallest has to get sucked off by bv
>>34616596
The desperate desperado
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>>34616589
I don’t see how a 99th percentile figure is any more or less believable than a 99.5th percentile figure other than you personally want to believe it.
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>>34616600
lmao, you're so fucking full of shit, hahaha
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>>34616601
>biggest gets sucked by a narc fatty smallest has to get sucked off by a narc fatty
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>>34616598
How would he or any streamer know about an atoga meetup or want to go?
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>>34616602
You also could be lying about that. It’s not mutually exclusive with what I said. Not that I give a shit if you exaggerate in one way or multiple
Or are you just muh dicking about girth you autist. I have a horse cock so it’s not gonna work here
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>>34616600
You’re proving this image right again. You don’t consider unattractive men as people, so you couldn’t ever perceive yourself becoming one.

You also wouldn’t be half the man your father is.
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ngl i gotta admit the whole "its hard to meet people as an adult" thing is kinda true, definitely a more annoying roadblock than I expected
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do i find hot women intimidating
or intimidating women hot
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>>34616614
Good boy.
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>>34616610
I am actually muh dicking because it’s an important factor when assessing compatability
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>>34616609
>he
would get cock mogged by 5 poster and 5.5 poster btw that’s why he’s so shitty and depressed despite being a massive creator
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>>34616613
it's weird because online communities are easier to meet than ever so you'd think someone would just make a local social media website that helps people make friends in THEIR area
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>>34616612
NTA
I love how as soon as a woman points out that dating apps are garbage, men proceed to double down and get more abrasive with their insults.
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>>34616612
I wouldn't become one based on genetics though
Sorry your parents made you ugly
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>>34616618
But we have the same thing. Lol
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>>34616600
>dating apps are bad

Yeah I bet you would go to your local grocery store and hit on the register chicks and then permanently taint your presence there. Or maybe you get an interesting hobby that you then ask a girl out and she rejects you thus forcing you out of that hobby group and “you shouldn’t be doing hobbies trying to find a girlfriend”. Or do you plan on going to clubs and bars instead to catch STDs?
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>>34616621
We all know dating apps are garbage but women don't want to meet in public unless it's with chad
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>>34616622
NTA
Most "ugly men" are just mediocre looking men self-sabotaging themselves into misery, only aiming for 10/10 Stacies, or both.
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>>34616622
>I would actually be attractive so this wouldn’t be an issue

So it has nothing to do with your idea that you think you know what women want. Thanks for playing
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>>34616630
Oh boy, another autist who doesn't understand the concept of making friends and possibly finding love. But yes please continue doing cold approaches and blaming the inevitable failure on "Chad".
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If atoga was a physical place and you niggas actually saw each other in the flesh there wouldn't be all this "it's all in your head" arguing. You'd be like yeah son you're cooked. The fact of the matter is you just imagine the poster on the other side of the screen as whatever is convenient in the moment.
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I'm ngl a situationship sounds way better than a traditional relationship.
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>>34616621
We all know dating apps are garbage. But that’s not a solution.
>go meet in person
Where? If you’re ugly, your presence is considered creepy.
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>>34616639
Brilliant insight
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>>34616631
>Xe is convinced this post is actually fire
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Honestly I found my boyfriend through hinge and were perfect for eachother
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>>34616631
M, this. But being born autistic is the cause.
Not experiencing what male models get while still capable of getting a comfy gf is another underrated incel gripe
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>>34616631
Most men are under 6 foot. Like 80% of them, worse if you’re not of Northern European descent, which is the biggest entry barrier for attraction.
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>>34616637
To be desu even good friends are hard to find
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>>34616621
Dating have become the most common way for people to meet their partner and women have been telling men to stop approaching them since the beginning of the 2010s or possibly earlier than that. What the fuck did you think was going to happen?
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>>34616639
nah. all the people who have posted face in the past are normal looking. there isnt a man here who wouldnt be at least a 5 or 6 with a shower and shave
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>>34616637
>just make friends
>but you shouldn’t do your hobbies to find a girlfriend
>but you need to put yourself out there
>but remember that women aren’t there for YOU
See the problem?
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>>34616613
It's truer now than it ever was.
>>34616627
>clubs and bars instead to catch STDs?
Don't be such a virgin loser about it no wonder you haven't gotten any. You know what your actual odds of catching something are if you use a condom and don't fuck anyone who has visibly messed up genitals? Extremely low.
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>>34616637
No one has friends anymore
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>>34616641
Go find people who share your hobbies you fucking autist. Stop with the cold approach garbage. But you don't want to do that because it won't get you laid immediately.
>>34616643
You gonna prove me wrong or are you just gonna be snarky?
>>34616648
>Muh 80/20 bullshit
Literally proving my point.
>>34616655
Yes it's more important to make friends then get laid. That's the point. Stop obsessing about getting a girlfriend and let relationships build naturally. Life's not a romcom.
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>>34616641
If you're under 6' there's no reason to be on a dating app since you're invisible to most women without lying.

You will ALWAYS have a better chance just making friends with people irl
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Ask the other gender anything? More like tell the other gender how the world works apparently
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>>34616635
It never did? Are you misinterpreting the "I know women will fuck 5'8 men because I can't be the only one" statement from the start of this conversation? Is that why you were mad this whole time?

Yeah I would be at least somewhat hot and 5'10 I would do okay with the ladies.
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>>34616637
love doesnt exist
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>>34616663
Bukkake queen is here and she's decided to try with the grammar today
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>>34616666
youre right, quadruple satan.
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>>34616637
>Oh boy, another autist who doesn't understand the concept of making friends and possibly finding love
The amount of women bitching about male friends making a move would make your head spin.
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>>34616641
You're allowed to talk to other ugly people
Just don't make attractive women think you might hit on them
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>>34616667
How tall are you, race, hair color, looks out of 10, earnings, and are you funny? Don’t answer any you’re uncomfortable with I can accurately assess this with like 3
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>>34616654
>hi im a 4chan user and im too dumb to understand selection bias, here's my post:
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>>34616669
Do you have a real argument disproving me or not?
>>34616672
Yup, not all of your female friends are gonna become your romcom love interest. That's life. But making friends increases your chances of finding love. Sorry if that's too complicated for your autistic brain.
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>>34616677
post face
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>>34616663
>get some hobbies
Lady my fucking hobby is warhammer. There are no women here. I would have to pick up a new hobby, and if I had to pick a new hobby it would be retro electronics. You know how many women are into repairing and renovating electronics? Fucking none.

So I would need to deliberately pick a hobby that I don’t feel especially passionate about for the pure sake of finding a woman which according to modern standards is a cardinal sin, you are not allowed to join a hobby for the purpose of meeting women. Then, I have to pray that asking a woman out in that group doesn’t result in rejecting and social isolation thus excluding me from that hobby because women talk. Any solutions?
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>>34616631
Here we go with the "but you only have eyes for models" bullshit again. The average man finds the average woman attractive enough, so no, most of us aren't exclusively gunning for 8s and above.
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>>34616680
dumbass nigga
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>>34616663
You think life isn't a romcom but also think all relationships come naturally?
Lmao
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>>34616684
>nigga
you can say nigger here
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What are your female friendships like?
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>>34616674
5’3, white, redhead, 6-7, no job, ;) yes
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>>34616683
Show me a picture of the average woman then.
>>34616685
Most people get into relationships. I fail to see how that's contradictory to life not being a romcom.
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>>34616673
>read all the signals right and don’t get it wrong or you’re fucked

See, this is the problem the social cost of misreading intent is far too risky to attempt unless you have a guarantee (be attractive).
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>>34616663
ngl if i was your dad i'd probably go full misogynist and force you to vote for an anti-woman party too, you are fucking retarded
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>>34616691
>no job
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>>34616694
Do you have a real argument for me?
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>>34616691
You wouldn’t be 5’10 you’d be a 5’8 unemployed ginger clown lol
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>>34616666
if you come here for anything other than to enjoy the display of outright mental illness, you are not going to have fun in /atoga/
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>>34616674
Your assessment is worthless but I'll let you play. I'm not quite 5'7 as a woman. My dad is 6'1, brother 6'4. White, dark brown, 6-7, I don't think answering earnings would be useful because I wouldn't have the job I have right now if I was a man, and I think I'm averagely funny.
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The men here are so damn irritating post your cocks or fuck off
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I like him a lot, but why doesn't he understand how ugly I am? When will he?
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>>34616690
Usually I have a beer and go fishing or something, maybe a cookout, collect roadkill, go birding or to flea markets and oddities shows. Things like that.
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>>34616688
You cuddle UNTIL you're ready to fall asleep, you silly goose.
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>>34616688
Try letting her get on the bed first, somewhat prone/sideways, and then you lean onto her, sort of like spooning except you're approximately 25% on top of her with most of that being your leg/hips
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>>34616700
>I think I’m average funny
So you’re actually not funny.
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>>34616654
https://archive.4plebs.org/adv/thread/34599947/#34601949
I'd like to turn your attention to this gentleman and the many like him
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>>34616700
You’d be a hot guy congrats.
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Do you like women without makeup?
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>>34616631
Women over evaluate their own attractiveness massively.
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>>34616709
Not if they look like that, but in general yes.
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https://on.soundcloud.com/VMUjzefngr2m6rWhUo Good soundtrack to watch this trash fire unfold
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>>34616579
Fucking brutal
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>>34616709
i can't tell the difference well enough to have an opinion
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>>34616707
>Has greasy hair and acne
His problem isn't genetics, it's his lack of basic hygiene.
>>34616710
Post a picture of a 5/10 woman then.
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>>34616709
I actually preferred my ex without makeup. Just depends on what they look with or without. Most women look better with makeup.
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>>34616706
There are people who are "not funny" and there are people who are not funny(cringe). First category is acceptable. I make men genuinely laugh sometimes but I know not to trust my mother's opinion and she thinks I'm funny so.
>>34616708
I TOLD YOU
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>>34616712
No
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>>34616709
Yes, I've actually told a woman that I really liked her makeup and then found out she's just really pretty and has rosy cheeks
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>>34616579
why didnt he just asssk that so creepy
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>>34616711
Even without makeup she's above average tho
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>>34616678
It's not complicated at all. It's nonsensical. If you complain about men approaching you in almost any setting and complain about multiple male friends confessing their true feelings, then why are you so surprised that dating apps are now the go to way get a date?
If Nora Vincent, a lesbian writer admitted that shit ain't sweet for men after ending her 1 year experiment 4 months early because it genuinely affected her on a mental level, what the fuck makes you think you'd be this suave casanova?
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>>34616712
Because height is the best this ogre could get. Her face is sub 5 easily
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>>34616722
She's gross looking.
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>>34616692
Most young men aren't in relationships
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>>34616712
bro looks like a sunfish but he's tall enough to be fetishized by retarded woemn
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>>34616726
You have pornbrain bro she's above aberage compared to most women you would see out on the street
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>>34616731
I don't watch porn and that doesn't mean anything, I'm just saying I don't like the way she looks.
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>>34616723
>Muh Nora Vincent
The woman who killed herself 16 years after her book was written. A fact that men conveniently leave out when using her for their narrative.
>>34616728
That's wrong, most people male and female are in relationships.
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>>34616725
>Her face is sub 5 easily
Very mean and very wrong.
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>>34616723
you are arguing with a drooling imbecile btw
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>>34616712
It was one of those things I wanted to try and now that I have it's kind of whatever. I prefer guys close to my own height. The size difference is a little exciting and scary at first but mostly just ends up being inconvenient.
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>>34616716
>5/10
The blonde girl from this video: https://youtu.be/A-YcBYUfgtc

And this is presuming she’s at her best presentation since she knows she was going to be recorded and shown to millions.
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>>34616722
>>34616726
she just looks normal. pure average. absolutely unremarkable. default_female.png
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My boyfriends ignoring me. Should I kill everyone?
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>>34616691
You're already below the average height for a woman NA and most European countries. You would be Ed Sheeran, but without the musical talent.
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>>34616709
I like a woman that looks human so. Yes I like women with and without make up, but if you are going to do your make up: LESS IS MORE. I know you think I just say that, but too much make up is horrific. Pro tip for women in this thread, try doing your make up like how Nina Park does her make up on others, but with a shade of dark pink about 60-70% less aggressive than her average style. You are welcome.
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>>34616718
Men aren’t laughing because you’re funny You made a joke and are probably attractive.
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>my e-gf of 3 years wants to know my full name because she told me hers
What the heck should I do? I've been in this situation before with an irl gf who was too fat for me to tell her my full name
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>>34616734
I don’t feel too bad she’s blackpilling for clicks. Based on bone structure she’s well below avg. strap that on a skinny ginger white girl and a lot of people get fooled
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>>34616741
yes
yes
yes yes
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>>34616739
>A decently attractive woman is seen as 5/10 by men
Thank you for proving my point.
>>34616740
I appreciate those men for proving my point.
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>>34616682
>the foid conveniently skips over this post
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>>34616716
Are you blind the dude is a total ogre. Motherfucker gives Shrek a run for his money
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Men

Why do you ghost us, ignore us, don't give us attention every day, don't buy us flowers to show us that you are thinking of us, buy us a new iphone, and not always put us on the pedestal?

You should be dancing for our presence
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>>34616751
what makes her above average. she doesnt have any deficiencies, but she's not particularly good looking either. homely and plain. just because a woman is young and white doesnt make her a 7 or something
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>>34616696
>>34616698
>>34616742
Do you guys want to take a crack at mocking the actual answer instead of the troll answer? Here ya go >>34616700
>>34616744
No you can tell when you catch them off guard and surprise them by actually making them laugh it's different.
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why is everyone so uptight
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>>34616751
Tell me, what features does she have which make her above average in terms of attractiveness for a man?
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>>34616755
Because you're not the woman I'm head over heels over, so you may as well be dead to me
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>>34616682
>You know how many women are into repairing and renovating electronics? Fucking none.

Not true

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZbW_hb-4IM
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>>34616630
Exception to what? I'm confused by the image.
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>>34616758
It's just swiss again.
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>>34616740
Shed be a 5’6 truecel as a man btw.
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>>34616760
She got a big mouth that has to count for something
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>>34616755
no woman has given me signs that they want to interact with me. so i dont. ive never even exchanged socials
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>>34616751
why would you dispute the number on a scaled judgement like an out of 10 rating then not give what you think to be the correct number instead of vaguely stating "decently attractive"
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>>34616751
I don’t know what you’re smoking that chick is the perfect 5/10. She’s not ugly at all, but she’s not pretty. She’s exceptionally average.
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>>34616755
I don't even know you exist.
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>>34616766
looks fine to me
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>>34616749
MILWAUKEE
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>>34616762
>woman fails to understand statistics, again
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>>34616692
>Show me a picture of the average woman then.
I don't have to show you a picture of the average woman, because everyone rates female faces higher than male faces.
https://phys.org/news/2026-05-women-outrank-men-cultures-global.html
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>noooo getting a new hobby to meet girls is so hard!
like how hard is it to just pickup pickleball lmao

just try new things lol
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>>34616733
Look even if the "Chad" population is really 60% or 70%, it's not gonna do me any good. I'm ugly. I have a speech impediment. I struggle with talking with others. My sister is the only one who tries anymore and I can tell it's a strain on her. I feel most men in this board have similar experiences
Not saying that I deserve your pity, but it would be nice to have some recognition that our situation sucks and not something that we can just pick ourselves by our bootstraps and fix
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>>34616755
>You should be dancing for our presence
Sounds like by your desperation, you should be dancing for me.
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>>34616755
Bait but I'll bite: Show us you are worth it past your mere presence. Everyone that exists exists. Do you have a reason for me to love and adore you past your physical assets? Then sure. If not, you are begging to be liked, adored, even loved, for simply existing and nothing more. Which I'm sorry, I don't think everyone deserves. That all depends on their conduct, and what they bring to the table. "But I am the table" then I guess you want me to put my feet up on you and use you as a platter for all my food. Like an object. Get over yourself. Seek God. Don't be a whore. Unbelievable.
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>>34616753
What's the point of responding? I could tell him to find new hobbies, but he's already shown that he has no interest in doing so due to his self-sabotaging. I've already explained how the goal should be about making friends and letting relationships naturally build, but again, autistic men are too retarded to understand this. So what's the point?
>>34616754
He'd be less of an ogre and would like a human being if he actually washed his hair and face.
>>34616756
You're doing nothing but proving my point.
>>34616760
So, I'm not an autistic looxxsmaxxer, but her face seems constructed in a way that makes her a 7/10, and men are only saying she's a 5/10 because she's not a Stacy, which proves my point.
>>34616762
He's just going to find some excuse to dismiss girls like her.
>>34616766
>Average looking woman is seen as ugly by men
Point is proven once again.
>>34616778
No anon, you don't understand, they need the first female they meet to fall in love with them immediately. If that doesn't happen it's not worth it.
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>>34616739
>the men on the show also place her in the middle
He’s right
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>>34616755
Seeing pretty women doesn't even turn me on anymore it just makes me wanna kill myself, why did God have to make me so insanely unattractive in every way.
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>>34616771
because femanon rates herself 7 but is uglier than that woman
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>>34616778
I thought pickleball was middle aged man behavior.
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>>34616783
you're delusional.
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>>34616755
I'll moan and eat pussy
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>>34616755
Seeing pretty women doesn't even turn me on anymore it just makes me wanna kill myself, why did God have to make me so insanely unattractive in every way. I'll never have a decent woman or any woman look at me with lust in her eyes.
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>>34616778
>pickleball
Only rich people do that and I'm broke
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Question: Why are men the ones who determine who's good looking and who's ugly?
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>>34616765
Doubt
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>>34616788
this is exactly it kek
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>>34616788
>is uglier
Doubtful. None of her features are that bad on their own but the combination is a little off-putting. Like I thought I had hooded eyes but hers are actually worse.
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Femanons, how would you rate him out of 10? Would you consider him to be a "Zaddy"?
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Why can't you stop yourselves from cheating
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>>34616798
>>34616788
>O-Oh yeah, I bet you're ugly!!
I thought looks shouldn't matter and women are awful for not wanting ugly men?
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>>34616795
lol

pickleball is literally tennis for poorfags
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>>34616783
> but her face seems constructed in a way that makes her a 7/10,
Jesus fucking cope. A 7/10 means that she’s definitely pretty. She has a long mid-face and a wide jaw which is very masculine. Her eyes are sunken, her hairline gives her a 5 head.

She has nice lips, her skin is nice and even, there’s no obvious deformities and her eye spacing is good.

She is a 5/10
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>>34616796
who cares what box people put you in. realistically you cannot grade someones attractiveness numerically. you either think they're pretty, or not. it doesnt matter if "men" find you ugly, as long as "He" finds you pretty
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>>34616733
>The woman who killed herself 16 years after her book was written. A fact that men conveniently leave out when using her for their narrative.
Because I never claimed that it had something to do with her suicide. At best it may have worsened her battle with depression, but it wasn't the sole reason. You're putting words into my mouth.
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>>34616783
>find new hobbies
The point is, what if you have no hobbies which interest you that have women in them? What do you do then?
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>>34616783
He'd be less of an ogre but still one. Not a single woman here or anywhere really would think he's attractive. You wouldn't.
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>>34616806
Okay, I'm not interested in arguing anymore about her looks. I would like to see a picture of your face though. You know for comparison.
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>>34616803
bait post, hidden
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>>34616796
Because that's what makes personal beauty useful.
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I was a diehard fan of The Amazing Atheist when I was 12
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>>34616757
Yeah, you’d be 6’1-2 with brown hair (best). Bare minimum you’d be able to fuck brown women. White ones if you got into good shape and had a mid length fuck boy cut. Face likely slightly above avg.
>>34616773
A tiny demon man with no eyebrows, tiny with upper eyelid exposure to the moon, poor width to height ratio which would make his extremely overdeveloped bone structure uncanny rather than attractive. Her only hope was creating giants so her sons wouldn’t be violently bullied
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>>34616796
We aren’t, if you want to throw your opinion in the ring, go ahead
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if you had the kind of personality that likes social hobbies you'd be an extrovert, and would already have a gf if you wanted one
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>>34616809
I doubt that's the case, but something tells me you're one of those guys who thinks women ruin everything, but feel free to prove me wrong.
>>34616810
Yeah he wouldn't be super handsome, but he wouldn't look like an ogre if he actually practiced some basic hygiene, which would greatly improve his chances. Especially if he's not aiming for Stacies.
>>34616814
Ick
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>>34616796
Because cats decide what milk is good milk. You ask a fisherman how to catch fish. You don't ask the fish how to catch fish.
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I am feeling very self conscious and unreal at the moment is this symptoms? Like nothing that has been happening to me, good or bad, feels right or real. I feel like I'm watching some dream in fast forward. I feel scared and alone
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>>34616814
When I was 12 I knew my classmates had no idea what they were saying when it came to politics.
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>>34616819
>I doubt that's the case
then you're an idiot
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>>34616818
Wow, it's almost like actually going out and talking to people improves your chances of getting in a relationship. What a crazy thought.
>>34616820
In that case, why do men get to determine which men are and aren't attractive then?
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Who the fuck has time for hobbies?
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>>34616802
Give him to me 10 years ago and that's a very attractive man. He's not perfect for my personal tastes but there are no flaws I can point out. When he's lean and has some stubble I wouldn't disagree with a 9 rating. I think I'm too old to say zaddy so I'm not answering that part.
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>>34616811
>I-I bet you’re ugly
I accept your concession. That chick is a 5/10, everyone dogpilled on you for your dogshit opinion, you have no idea what you’re talking about so you should be quiet when it comes to this topic.
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>>34616818
I know but in my heart of hearts I hate people and their neurotypical ways
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I'd rather have a chick enthusiastic about giving head than one who does anal
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>>34616819
>super handsome
Oh come on, look PAST the acne at his features for a second.
Other femanons weigh in on this
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>>34616805
Nta
I think us poors associate it with racquetball which was shorthand for "this guy is a rich asshole" in 80s movies.
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>>34616826
i mean, weekends exist
i dont participate in my hobbies anymore not because i dont have time, but because i dont see the point in putting any effort into my life at all anymore.
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>>34616829
My point is that mediocre men call themselves ugly because they're only aiming for Stacies. So prove to me that you're not actually mediocre looking then and you can fairly call other women mid or ugly.
>>34616833
Imagine being this mad about a woman not calling a guy ugly, lmao.
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>>34616825
For the exact same reason that cats decide what milk is good. Also, that's half false because men are autistic and like to judge other men that would have women in an absolute daze. An austist blackpiller calling a guy 4/10 for whatever reasons would probably have some woman out there salivating because he looks rugged and animal like. And women are all about their ox and werewolf fanfics, right?
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>>34616835
dgaf about your goyslop show
but id slap tha bitch
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>>34616819
You doubt that I can’t find hobbies I like that involve enough women to date them? Let me go down the list.

>WarHammer
>Retro Electronics
>Model Kits
>Table top gaming in general
>TCG in general
>Sim racing
>Sim flying
>Game design
>Creative writing

Probably creative writing which, I can do, and I have done, but don’t like as a group activity is the first one which might have some women in it. Now, let me look around for my nearest creative writing club. Oh there isn’t any for over 3 hours drive and I didn’t really want to do creative writing anyway. So again, what do I do?
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>>34616840
>For the exact same reason that cats decide what milk is good.
Cats are lactose intolerant.
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>>34616840
Also also, women are allowed to like men deemed ugly by society for whatever reason they'd please.
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>>34616835
No she’s right.
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>>34616796
Everyone decides that
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>>34616844
they dont know and dont care. they will drink the shit out of it and then shit that shit out evrywhere
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>>34616839
>Imagine being this mad about a woman not calling a guy ugly, lmao.
Because you're just doing it to dunk on me, you wouldn't date that guy no matter how clear his skin is and nobody else here would.
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>>34616843
>No women in tabletop gaming
Okay, now you're just lying.
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>>34616839
Explain to me how my personal beauty impacts my ability to evaluate the beauty of women and then I’ll post my picture.
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>>34616837
I use weekends to physically recover from the work week
And do whatever shit my parents need
That shit didn't end when I left home
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>>34616844
You do know there is adult cat specific lactose reduced milk out there, right?
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>>34616853
There is exactly 2 places near me which host table top nights. The only women I have ever seen in those places were the girlfriends and wives of the guys.
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>>34616819
I mean, women do ruin everything they're in, because women can't handle anything that isn't about themselves and catered to them
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These lyrics are so damn boss. I hate being creatively bereft
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>>34616833
I am honestly unable to judge fairly because the hygiene issue is grossing me out too much. And surely being that close to the fucking camera is distorting what he actually looks like. Probably an average looking dude if he wasn't so gross. Average is a little bit ugly.
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>>34616851
Yeah I as an individual woman probably wouldn't, but there are individual women out there who probably would. There is no such thing as a universally attractive person, and refusing to engage in basic hygiene because "not every woman will want to fuck me" is retarded.
>>34616854
My point is that men who claim women's standards are too high are projecting and would never date a woman who's their looksmatch.
>>34616858
>The only women I have ever seen in those places were the girlfriends and wives of the guys.
So yes, you can meet women with hobbies. The guys in your card game groups literally prove that.
>>34616859
Wow, you sound like an awesome guy, can't imagine why women don't want to date you. Must be because you're not 6'5.
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Idk what you mean by Stacy when most men find most women attractive
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>>34616865
I guess a 5/10 and up is a Stacy according to this thread.
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any good sites for finding local activities and shit? meetup.com is ass
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>>34616755
Juice isn't worth the squeeze.
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>>34616862
> My point is that men who claim women's standards are too high are projecting and would never date a woman who's their looksmatch.
We have objective proof that women think that majority of men are unattractive and a small handful are average and above. That’s not projection.

We have objective proof that the majority of women would not date a man below six foot which the vast majority of men are not. That’s not projection.
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>>34616862
Fuck you lady
Everything has to be done to not offend women in any way
Can't even have the male gaze anymore
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>>34616418
Because I have no friends and I want someone I can relate to. Socialites exhaust me, too, and I have nothing in common with them. Also, a bonus is you don't have to worry about them having a one of those nasty jealous "friends" who use dissimulation to keep her in the bucket, and get her to make stupid decisions all the time, influencing her for the worse and constantly attacking and putting me down, seeding doubt in her mind all the time and having to be constantly on the defence. But I wouldn't really want a woman that easily influenced anyways. Women with their own conscience are better
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>>34616445
"What is 'a strawman'?"

>>34616533
>Do women actually want to have their back rubbed during prone and doggy
No, I'm actively trying to get my guts rearranged, not get lulled to sleep.

>>34616690
>What are your female friendships like?
My best friend and I have slept together, but the rest of my female friendships aren't very different from my male friendships, aside from their interests.

>>34616712
This nigga looks like he's about to kill Curley's wife while stroking her hair. Not two braincells to rub together.

>>34616739
The sad part is the fat girl would be the second most attractive if she wasn't so fat. She has a great face card imo.

>>34616796
>Why are men the ones who determine who's good looking and who's ugly?
They're literally not. Women are the pickers in the evolutionary chain. They are the ones who decide who passes on their genetics and who doesn't.

>>34616802
8.5
The only detraction is his age. Same guy in his mid 40's is close to a 10, physically.

>>34616826
>Who the fuck has time for hobbies?
As opposed to doing what? How much are you working and sleeping that you have no free time?

>>34616835
>Can you refute this?
NAM, but Cassie is being a hypocrite because she's expecting Nate to be a traditional husband when she has never been a traditional wife. She does onlyfans and starts fucking other men.
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How are you struggling to find a gf when it's so much easier for you than it is for us?
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>>34616865
Correction: Most men are willing to put up with women for a pump and dump to avoid blue balls. That's not finding a woman attractive.
>>34616867
Strawman
>>34616870
YES IT'S THE BULLSHIT OKCUPID STATS! HE POSTED THEM! BWAHAHAHA!
>>34616871
Man you're such a nice guy, how could any woman not like you?
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>>34616873
>My best friend and I have slept together,

QRD? Is this normal?
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>>34616862
> So yes, you can meet women with hobbies. The guys in your card game groups literally prove that.
I can’t tell if you’re just retarded or this is bait. These women did not meet their guys through TCG, they either met in high school or at work. In addition the ratio of male to female in these hobbies is like 20 to 1 even if you include the married ones.
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>>34616874
I'm not taking the bait
You're a man, btw
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I only really make friends through church and uni. I'm graduating soon though, and my last relationship just ended. Genuinely unsure how I'd meet anyone if I were irreligious but my current church is kind of lacking in available women.
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>>34616865
Stacey is like +7.5/10
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>>34616839
You're asking random men to post a picture of themselves online even though you know you wouldn't do the same.
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>>34616870
>Okcupid
How fucking old is this graph?
We keep telling you dating apps are trash and you provide your own proof and yet you still insist on using them?
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>>34616879
you don't. game over. thanks for playing.
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>>34616865
Don't tell her
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>>34616879
>I only really make friends through church and uni. I'm graduating soon though, and my last relationship just ended. Genuinely unsure how I'd meet anyone if I were irreligious but my current church is kind of lacking in available women.

You need regular places like school, work, uni, pub, mall and cross your fingers that they're single
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>>34616739
This video always gets me that the girls ratings are the exact inverse of the guys ratings just proving women actively fucking pretty women.
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>>34616881
I'm not the one crying about how I'm ugly and doomed to never find love because I know I'm not fucking ugly. The only picture I got is from a previous thread and it's literally just a guy who'd look fine if he just took a god damn shower for once in his life.
>>34616882
Don't tell them that men outnumber women on dating websites, thus making any sort of statistics about them completely pointless.
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>>34616875
>it’s bullshit because it doesn’t support my point
Mhmm
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Why are you so afraid of providing
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>>34616876
Our relationship has never been normal, bordering on codependency. Even now we share physical affection with each other. But there was a time when I felt very alone, both emotionally and physically, and that turned into us having sex off and on for a while.
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>>34616882
>I don’t like the data so I’m going to ignore it
No, explain why the data is invalid for the sole purpose of evaluating a persons physical looks
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>>34616890
>there was a time when I felt very alone, both emotionally and physically, and that turned into us having sex off and on for a while.

Does it help? What makes you feel more cared about and not alone?
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>>34616888
Strawman, no the reason these dating app stats are bullshit is because men wildly outnumber women on dating apps, thus making stats from them completely useless. By the way, the lack of women on dating apps is why we advise men not to use them, but that always causes a spergout.
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>>34616887
>because N1 > N2 therefore data is invalid
What? Do you understand how statistics work? Simply because the sample sizes are different doesn’t mean the results are inherently not significant.
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>>34616612
Reminder that this is the guy who made that chart.
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i honestly dont care about sex anymore. i'm content to die a virgin. i just want to have a girlfriend. i'm too fucked
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>>34616894
Why are the stats useless? You’re not actually explaining your point, your explaining your conclusion.
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favorite games?
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>>34616874
>go through years of fuckboys
I'm not cleaning up their mess, and women are wonderful effect nonsense.
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>>34616895
>Men drastically outnumbering women on dating apps doesn't matter in statistics about romance!
Yes it does actually. By the way, do you wanna talk about how women are more willing to message men they don't find attractive whereas men only wanted to message attractive women? What's your cope for that?
>>34616898
Wildly inconsistent sample size moron.
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>>34616889
>cussing

stopped watching there
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>>34616894
>don’t use dating apps
>find women in your life

Oh it’s this again
>work in a male dominated field
>hobbies and interests and overwhelming male dominated
>you’re not allowed to cold approach or join a hobby for the sake of finding a girl

So what now?
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>>34616886
>actively fucking pretty women
Misdiagnosis. Trying way too hard not to insult the fat one or be racist. Notice how the hot one was like "yeah I'll take the low spot because I know if I advocate for being at the top it's going to piss someone off". She fucked herself to preserve peace in the group.
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>>34616875
Why can't I enjoy things without it having to be about sex?
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>>34616901
How are you lecturing on sample sizes and then make a point about women messaging first which is a tiny sample size compared to the huge number of male first messages?
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>>34616399
M or F
What is the incentive to be a good man?
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>>34616889
Ik it's bait, but what do I get in return? I keep hearing about this high effort shit, but what do I get return for going all out every day?
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>>34616889
Obvious bad nose job, rapidly encroaching nasolabial folds, rabbit teeth, high hairline, narrow bpd jaw with obvious hidden asymmetry but fucked up bigonial to bizogamatic ratio, obese, tattoos, extreme under eye bags (recessed infaorbitals not lack of sleep), thin eyebrows which are too positively tilted, and somehow one eye has a positive canthal tilt and one has a negative one. She is a 2.7 but foids will cope and say she’s avg.
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>>34616903
Here we are with the autistic black and white thinking
>Nooooo, I can't just hang out with women and naturally build relationships with them! I need a wife right now! Actual social interaction's too hard!
>>34616907
My point is those stats are entirely garbage, but I'm glad you now care about sample size.
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>>34616739
I remember my ex showed me this video and asked me to rate them before the guys came out. I rated them in the exact order the guys did and she was fucking floored
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>>34616891
Because it's probably decade old data from a single dating app? Dating app answers are skewed we know this. Men and women use them differently. If a woman is meeting some guy off an app it's only worth it if he's HOT. If she meets some guy at work that she hits it off with that's different. Rejecting a real person standing in front of you is so much harder than swiping. And it's easier to be charmed by someone when they can talk to you and interact with you physically instead of just through text and pictures. We need to be charmed and you just can't do that on the apps.
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>>34616909
...the value of having a woman in your life. Incels just try to pretend they don't understand obvious things because the obvious things they pretend not to understand make them look stupid.
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>>34616911
Tell me where I go to meet women.
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>>34616889
I don't want children and I like strong independent women
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>>34616908
A good girlfriend would have asked for this the other way around. And it would have actually been funny that way.
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>>34616915
I don't know where you live so I can't give you exact places. But presumably you can check out places to hang out near you online.
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>>34616910
She’s a 6 easily wtf where did you get all this
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>>34616911
Do you know what a confidence interval is?

>>34616913
>it’s old
Did women receive a firmware update since then or something which made them more reasonable?

Okay, meet women at work.
>ask woman out
Sorry, you guessed wrong. HR meeting.
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>>34616910
Mental illness
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>>34616889
Women outearn men now and they want us to still provide?
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>>34616908
there isn't an incentive to be good, only to not be bad inasmuch so you arent killed or imprisoned. its a dog-eat-dog world. nice guys finish last
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>>34616897
This is so funny
>age 16: i bet sex would be nice. I wish I had sex
>age 20: i'm never going to have sex. fuck! i'm gonna die a virgin!
>age 24: I don't even care about sex anymore, I'm just lonely, my soul is aching, part of my humanity will never be expressed...
>age 29: Actually don't care lol, im good. Life's good
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>>34616918
So go to my local park and just cold approach women there? This my point, you are all talk with no actual solutions and zero empathy, instead you just handwave it away like it’s not real.
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>>34616889
Are white american women trying to be some of the most entitled and obnoxious women on earth or does it come naturally to them?
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>>34616922
I don't think people understand why the wage gap is actually a good thing
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>>34616899
I don't care if people use savestates or cheats or other shortcuts in vidya. Having fun is more important than gitting gud.

If you want to git gud at something without shortcuts, then learn an art form or a musical instrument.
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>>34616925
>cold approach
After all the times I said cold approaching is bad and doesn't work? How about you actually fucking listen to me?
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>>34616873
I work 75 hours a week
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>>34616889
>just say you don’t understand the value of feminine energy and move on
I do not understand the value of feminine energy. I closed the video.
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>>34616925
Women actively and proudly punish empathy in their reproductive strategy
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what exactly is a "warm approach"
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>>34616929
>just go somewhere near you and hang out
>BUT DONT YOU DARE TALK TO A WOMAN
Again, you seemingly don’t understand the problem and don’t see how your solution doesn’t work.
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>>34616899
Warcraft 3

but honestly I probably have the most hours in WoW
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>>34616932
I love how "the feminine" and "feminine energy" mean nothing, and require zero action or effort on their part.
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>>34616935
Not my fault you decided to use a terrible example with the park. But no, just saying "Hi" to a woman isn't a problem. When I talk about "cold approaches" I'm talking about approaching women with the specific intent to ask out. But of course you'd strawman me.
>>34616933
You're right, women should engage in violent revenge fantasies against men like men do to women. That's the empathetic way.
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Should I post face
I'm male by the way don't get your hopes up
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>>34616940
if you want
i'm going to fukken bed
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Women are clearly resentful of my feelings regardless of how rational or irrational they are so why the fuck would I ever open up to one?
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>>34616899
ONE of my favorite games is RuneScape, but it has slowly been enshittified over the years by Jagex. MANY such cases.
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>>34616938
They do, it’s called reputation destruction and false rape allegations in some cases. Women actually hurt men in their social circles actively unlike incels who just whine on the internet
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>>34616938
>women should engage in violent revenge fantasies against men
this but unironically. would do them some good. feel that hate flow through youuuuuuu
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>>34616945
Cool, I'm fantasizing about chopping your dick off and blending it.
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is 5.5 hours of sleep enough
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>>34616938
So I’m supposed to go somewhere and say hello to women, but not ask them out. I’m also not allowed to say hello to them with the intention of asking them out. Are you expecting me to just randomly strike up conversations with random strangers about nothing in particular for no reason?

I’m just going to say it, if you were in the body of a man tomorrow morning, you’d be in a police station by night.
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There is zero point arguing with bukkake queen, she will never stop
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>>34616946
imagine my screams of pain, writhing on the ground, reaching of for my dismembered member before you chuck it in the blender, giving up hope, and crying, pitifully
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Foids, why?
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>>34616948
>Are you expecting me to just randomly strike up conversations with random strangers about nothing in particular for no reason?
Yes, this is something almost all adults do on a daily basis.
>I’m just going to say it, if you were in the body of a man tomorrow morning, you’d be in a police station by night.
Men do not get arrested for casual conversation, but hey if you love self-sabotage and your victim complex, knock yourself out.
>>34616949
Do you have something you want to talk to me about?
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>>34616952
why ask why
ask
why ask why
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>>34616504
Miserable because our life experiences directly contradict your bullshit lala land fantasy.
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>>34616920
>you guessed wrong
If you have to guess then don't ask because it's a no. I get that a lot of guys aren't going to understand this because they don't have the opportunity to socialize enough to the point that a random woman would express interest towards them or they genuinely are ugly but anyone with average social skills should be able to tell whether or not she'll say yes with a pretty high degree of accuracy. You just haven't encountered or weren't attracted to a woman who has thought "yes" to you. Ideally you never have to ask verbally it just happens.
Trying to force it and asking out women who aren't giving you an enthusiastic non verbal yes is the humiliation ritual you all keep talking about. It's pointless.
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>>34616953
>Yes, this is something almost all adults do on a daily basis.
nta
you're out of touch lol. literally nobody under 40 does this. especially autist losers like us
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>>34616909
You get her "feminine energy"
Didn't you watch the video? that's the energy you get. All that could be YOURS!


>>34616914
This. You should literally just understand the value of having A women in your life, bringing you her FEMININE ENERGY to le heckin tablerino. Bask in her demanding bitching and nagging and self centred self entitlement, you fucking incels. You all need hypnotherapy
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>>34616938
I mean most big feminist writings are juat revenge fantasies
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>>34616956
what if no woman ever thinks "yes"
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>>34616953
Yes people say fucking hello in passing, people do not fucking go out of their way to greet strangers that is fucking bizarre and would probably get the police called on you for doing it too much

Okay, so progress this conversation for me

>Hey female, noticed you were [here]
>>Hello?
>
Your turn, how do you progress this conversation without appearing completely fucking psychotic for APPROACHING this strange woman as a strange man
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>>34616955
who hurt you
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>>34616910
Self selected herself, not hot enough to get men to give her shit, but hot enough to farm likes from the sisterhood
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>a stinky, obsessed femcel whose never left her mother's basement talking down to you on how you should approach women
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>>34616963
you did
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>>34616966
erm i dont even know u
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>>34616962
>Hey female, noticed you were [here]
Again, I'm not surprised that autists don't understand how to properly start conversations. I just wish they'd stop acting like they represent normal men.
>>34616965
>Everyone who says things I disagree with is a femcel
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>>34616956
You women really don’t fucking understand men. Rejection fucking hurts, it hurts extremely bad. No man is just asking out a woman without being VERY sure. Yet, men guess wrong all the time.

Fuck, I even have my own example. I was told EXPLCITLY by her own best friend, “she told me if you asked her out, she would say yes”. That is verbatim. The next day I asked her out, and she said no. How much extra assurance do I need because clearly I guessed wrong?
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>>34616948
Nta
>random strangers
We know nobody does that. If I went to an art group or something then it wouldn't be weird if a guy who was also in that group tried to start a conversation with me.
If we're two strangers at the grocery store for unrelated reasons it's weird to strike up conversation. But if you notice that we're both clearly planning on making lasagna that night it's not weird to make a comment. If we both paid money for tickets to a concert you're allowed to talk to me there. We're still strangers but there is some sort of connection or common ground that you can use as a conversation starter. It's a psychological thing. Random stranger? Scary. Random stranger who likes the thing I like? Maybe friend?
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>>34616968
I’m demonstrating how demented your solution is.

>>Hey
>Hello?
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Your turn
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I've never met a woman who was fun to hangout with 2bh
Why are all of you such unbearable bitches?
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>>34616968
>>Everyone who says things I disagree with is a femcel
>no u
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>>34616962
NTA but I have casually said hello to girls on the street when passing and some of them glared at me like I insulted them. So I just learned to completely ignore women in public. I don't even look or talk to or acknowledge them unless they are older women or if they speak to me first

I'm not really sure what you're supposed to do if you are looking for a gf, idk. I'm not so it's not my problem but If I were, i'd be completely at a loss
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>>34616914
>..the value of having a woman in your life
So her presence? That's it? I don't get high effort in return? She won't go above and beyond for me everyday because her presence is enough? Fembots can't come soon enough, because all I'm hearing is "I expect the world from you, but I'll offer less than the bare minimum because my presence is good enough."
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>>34616970
>hey we’re both buying lasagna, want to go out?
Explain how this isn’t creepy?

Who buys concert tickets in person?
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>>34616971
>>34616970
I'll let this anon explain it better, but yes it's entirely possible to have conversations with strangers.
>>34616972
If every woman you know is a bitch then what does that say about you?
>>34616974
Sorry, I wasn't aware that accusing me of being a stinky femcel required intellectual banter.
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>>34616961
I'm sorry.
>>34616969
No shit it hurts I've been rejected and dumped. You can't account for mental illness anon, or perhaps lying best friends who have their own agenda. Only thing I can tell you is to pick better.
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>bukkake queen is so desperate for men's cum she's hijacked this entire thread for hours
incredible, I had no idea someone could be this cock-hungry
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the whiny argument femcel lowkey has all u guys on a leash, just chomping on the bait 24/7
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>>34616982
Why are you having sexual fantasies about a random 4chan femanon you dislike? That's weird.
>>34616983
>Saying opinions blackpillers don't like is bait
No it's not snowflake.
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>>34616978
That is creepy.
Making a passing comment about how great minds think alike or some dumb shit is cringe but it is also socially acceptable.

Nobody buys concert tickets in person any more but generally you go to the concert in person you're just being dumb on purpose.
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>>34616983
she is wasting all her time shitposting just as much as the people replying to her
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>>34616981
No, the point is, you can have all the assurance in the world and still get it wrong and the potential cost for getting it wrong is literal life ruining.
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>>34616990
If the risk isn't worth the reward to you then don't do it. Complaining about it isn't going to change anything it just makes people not want to be around you.
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>>34616986
amen sister throw out as many nets as possible, god bless
>>34616989
also true, just funny to see how she can get a rise out of the dudes itt so easily
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>>34616988
>great minds think alike, can I get your number?

Explain how this isn’t also creepy. Like I know what you mean by presenting myself as disarming, but I don’t personally give a shit if you bought lasagne. Do you really want me to lie to you rather than just approach you and say, “Hey I’m sorry to be interrupting you, but I thought you were cute and I’d like the chance to talk to you somewhere better than here. Can I give you my number?”
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>>34616993
>also true, just funny to see how she can get a rise out of the dudes itt so easily
I mean, she's quite literally responding out of butthurt everytime, kek
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>>34616991
And she's right
Within 6 months he would be pissed at her for not magically being healed by his love for her
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>>34616410
Because I keep sweet treats around the house, she can get them whenever she wants and she chooses not to.
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>>34616992
Just acknowledge the fucking issue is all we want. Women have designed a system which makes anyone except very very attractive men be absolutely terrified of life ruination just for the most basic courtship. Admitting the problem is the first step to finding the solution
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>>34616410
last think you need is more sweets
fat fuck
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>>34616997
No I respond to people acting like bitchy gosspiy teenage girls because it's pathetic. Especially when it's done by men who look down on women and then proceed to act in the most stereotypically feminine manner with passive aggressive bullshit.
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>>34616962
>umm I was umm... so umm i was wondering if umm... do you know that fungus is it's own kingdom in taxonomy and umm fungi is not actually a plant or an animal but ummm it's own thing? D-do you wanna um... see my mushroom collection?
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>>34616399
If I was a girl I would have massive natural tits, it really is that easy. Women why dont you just have massive tits?
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>>34616996
>Hey I’m sorry to be interrupting you, but I thought you were cute and I’d like the chance to talk to you somewhere better than here. Can I give you my number"?
I don't want you to do this at the grocery store under any circumstances. You can talk to women there I didn't say anything about hitting on them. You say the "great minds" thing and keep walking. It's not creepy because you didn't stop me and ask for my attention or time.
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>>34617004
>responds in the most asshurt way possible
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my asshole is moist and steamy
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>>34617004
>no im not seething im not
u are mad as fuck right now bro
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>>34617008
>so girls how do I get a girlfriend?
>>well you go to the grocery store and tell her about lasagne
>and then?
>>then you walk away
>so what about the get a girlfriend part?
>>girlfriend?


I’m sorry did you forget the point of this conversation?
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>>34617009
>>34617011
And now that I've called you out you're now going into middle school boy mode with the juvenile insults. Gonna throw more sexual fantasies my way too?
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>>34616947
I'm ruñning on some bullshit like that and I van barely move and think. I literally cannot think. I cannot form thoughts on my head and articulate them. When I try to talk I have to pause for obscenely lpng lengs of time to rephrase my rhgohtts and find the words and even then it comes out borderline unintelligible. When I type I have to retype the same word over and over again because I keep hitting the wrong keys and get stuck retyping the same world 5 times. I need my brain to bleed out of the holes in my ears
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>>34617000
See the thing is, it's not an issue for me.
And I have no vested interest in ensuring that men are able to ask out women without fear.
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>>34617017
Then why are you conversing on this issue?
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>>34616399
Men, when was the last time you had a conversation with a woman outside of work/school/family?
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>>34617013
Women are fucking retarded bros, just do whatever you want
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Do you remember which post I responded to?
>>34616948
I was telling you how to do this
>So I’m supposed to go somewhere and say hello to women, but not ask them out. I’m also not allowed to say hello to them with the intention of asking them out. Are you expecting me to just randomly strike up conversations with random strangers about nothing in particular for no reason?
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>>34616908
There is one great picture out of this whole set in witch Mamoa is hugging the wife but the husband hugs Mamoa becoming the big spoon. 150 iq move.
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>>34616637
Women make it a point that a guy who becomes a friend, and falls for her is a huge asshole for betraying that friendship
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>>34617019
I had some old lady ask me to reach something in the top shelf the other day.
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>>34617019
its been weeks, maybe a month
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>>34617018
The other side of the issue is me not wanting to be hit on lol.
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>>34617015
>Gonna throw more sexual fantasies my way too?
if i knew u were cute maybe but u might be weird looking so no
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>>34617021
Which is in a larger conversation thread about how to perform romantic courtship. I know I can just say off handed comments to women. I’m not that retarded. My point is courtship.
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>>34617019
Can't remember 2bh
Probably over a decade
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>>34617028
>I'm not that retarded
Could've fooled me
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I have become her
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>>34617030
I’m not taking pot shots from a girl who thinks lasagne one-liners is the ticket to a woman’s heart.
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Women, do you like getting fisted? Have you fisted yourself? What is it like
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>>34617034
>who thinks lasagne one-liners is the ticket to a woman’s heart.
We literally just cleared up that that is not what I was explaining you're not beating the allegations.
That was an example of a thing a man could say to me at the grocery store where I wouldn't immediately judge him for being a horny loser, just kind of a dork.
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ITT

>man it’s nearly impossible to find the right time and place to ask women out
>>You know you can just talk to women anywhere there is a woman?
>Yeah I know, that doesn’t help me get a girlfriend though.
>>Youre retarded

I actually hate women.
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>>34617035
What the fuck is wrong with you, anon? Do you like getting fisted? What fuck kind of question is that?
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>>34616914
What is that value
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>>34617008
Ok, I got this now
Picture this:
You're doing some indoor rock climbing with your friend. She leaves to go to the restroom but you don't go with her because you would have to take the gear off and it isn't as convenient. You see me a 5'3 dude approach you
>i've been watching you for quite a while now...
>my name's anon, and I like lasagne
>what about you? like anything you see? ;)

Noticed I gave you a cheeky little wink for max charisma confidencemaxxing
How did I do?
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>>34617035
I don't want to talk about it makes me feel bad. That is a private interest.
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>>34617043
You can talk about it
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>>34617038
Okay. I know that. I don’t care what some random woman at the grocery store thinks of me after make off handed comments. I don’t know why you think I care about this. I don’t need practice talking to women. I talk to women at work. I talk to women in my family. I understand what a woman is.

I care about engaging in courtship. You entered the conversation about courtship to just not speak about courtship.
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>>34616968
Don't act like you think any better of "normal men" either
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>>34617047
M
very aesthetic
not worth the health risks
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>>34617047
a turn off except weed
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>>34617042
0/10
>>34617046
Why are you mad about the way 4chan works? I saw that one post and responded, even told you I was nta. Take some deep breaths or something.
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>>34617039
Foids here are pathetic rape victims lol
They only feel powerful over lonely men online. I wouldn't take them seriously.
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>>34617051
Why would you saying NTA mean that you had switched the context of the conversation from romantic courtship to general conversation? How am I supposed to have guessed this? Do you regularly just interject into conversations and then immediately change topics?
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Alright, fess up.
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>>34617051
>0/10
you made a typo. You forgot the 1 at the start. But thanks, for the feedback. I'm going to implement it on my next chance encounter
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Women have still failed to answer the question “where do you go to meet women?”
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>>34617053
>the context of the conversation
My context was that one post. And I already explained here >>34617021 and here >>34617053 I'm serious you need to go calm down you're being a baby. Have a good night.
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>>34617055
East Asian are honorary aryans. People think that ‘honorary aryan’ is meant to be a joke, it’s not. It’s fine to mix with honorary aryans
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>>34617058
The answer is "nowhere you just have to get lucky"
And the whole getting lucky thing was made a lot harder by the internet.
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>>34617019
High school
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>>34617059
So you interjected yourself into a conversation without full context (which you could have had, you just didn’t want to read), switched the context to what suited your preferences, then got upset when the other person gets confused because they didn’t know you switched contexts. Jesus Christ fuck me dead, if I see you at the grocery store I will fucking choke slam you into the lasagnes for being such a retard.
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>>34617058
The location is be attractive. The location isn’t, be unattractive. Chad can ask a woman out anywhere and she will be happy. Chud cannot ask a woman out anywhere.
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>>34617065
The only one upset here is you lol
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>>34617068
Sorry I can’t hear you over me buying lasagne.
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>>34617068
when is the last time you fisted yourself?
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>>34616996
> Hey I’m sorry to be interrupting you, but I thought you were cute and I’d like the chance to talk to you somewhere better than here. Can I give you my number?”

Wait how is this not a perfectly fine thing to do? It’s polite, compliments her, and he’s giving HIS number meaning that she doesn’t have to give away her own information.
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>>34617075
Because you’re not attractive.
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Is makeup cheating?
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>>34617075
Cold approaching is rude.
If we're not in a position to have a conversation before you offer your number or ask for mine it's inappropriate to try. This is why we tell you guys to go to bars. Talk to her for 20 minutes so she might actually have a reason to want to use the number you gave her.
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>>34617079
L is hotter
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>>34617079
Amazing bait. Gold plated. Diamond studded. I can already hear them saying "she looks cuter on the left".
I've already wrote your posts out for you guys no need to reply. I've aired your grievances and your opinion is neither unique nor valued. Instead of replying to him reply to me with a thank you.
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>>34617019
:/
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>>34616896
>this guy is bald
>therefore his theory is bad

Women
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Femanons are always blackpilling 2bh
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>>34616896
never trust a moid with feminine hands
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Ngl I thought hoe math was Asian all this time
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>>34617079
NAG,
But no.
Left is pretty, I do think she could probably do something skin-care wise to reduce the blemishes or whatever is going on there, but whatever. Would enjoy seeing first thing in the morning when waking up.
Right isn't really my preferred look, but do want a gf who can do herself up for special events when it calls for it.
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>>34617088
Femanons are animals who act with 100% predictably but because they’re legally human you can poke them with a stick over the internet for entertainment and it’s not any sort of cruelty
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>>34616893
>Does it help?
It did
>What makes you feel more cared about and not alone?
Just having someone there. Going from having those physical and emotional needs met to not was disorienting, and I'm glad I had someone I could implicitly trust to fill that void of physical intimacy.

>>34617079
No, because you can clearly see she has a pound of makeup on.
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My goal is to completely let go of basically everything. Just live in self induced psychosis
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Where would you take a girl out on a first date?
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>>34617093
nta
how did you end up fucking your bestfriend?
Did you or her start it?
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>>34617096
THAT girl? I would take her to a paizuri conference.
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>>34617096
I take her to a gun range, then take her out for ice cream.
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>>34617096
I'd rather be waterboarded than go on a date 2bh
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>>34617096
For this hottie, to the bedroom
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>>34617096
probably not somewhere public.
Taking out someone, regardless of their gender in public is just asking to get caught
You also have to have a hole prepared in advance otherwise you're getting pinched 100%

Imagine you have a body and you're just there digging a hole like an asshole.
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>>34617093
Please for the love of god put your name back on
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>the average dick size is 5 inches
you guys realize thats because they also take minorities into account right?
The actual average dick you should aim for is 7 inches at least.
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>>34617093
how do you and other bi/lesbians feel about strappons?
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>>34617058
Friends, outside, internet, work, anywhere
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>>34617096
What f1nn5ter envisioned
>>34617107
I’ve been shouting this from the rooftops to deaf ears
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>>34617082
And if I don’t drink alcohol?
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>>34617047
Turn off, except weed
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>>34617096
Nowhere. She already has more than enough men taking her places.
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>>34617101
Isn't the gun range more of a 3rd date activity? First date seems a little forward.
>>34617112
I don't know what to tell you there's no where else left to go. If you don't go "out" you have to hope you find someone through your friends.
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>>34617109
>you shouldn’t ruin friendships by catching feelings
>don’t talk to women in public
>dating apps suck
>don’t ask women out at work unless you want a HR meeting

Anything else?
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>>34616399
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>>34617115
>>you are allowed to romantically court women at this one and only this one location
>and if I’m like about the other 30% of my generation which doesn’t drink alcohol?
>>dunno :3
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Why is everyone so obsessed wit her?
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>>34617093
is your friend black?
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>>34617116
Nta
I think it's particularly hard for autistic people to get this. Rules that only apply sometimes are hard for them to grasp.
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>>34617119
She’s pretty and presents alternative which signals high impulse promiscuity
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>>34617119
The media hasn’t permitted a legal woman with teen beauty, skin especially in like 15 years
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>>34617118
Damn 30% of zoomers don't drink? Well you're getting advice from a member of the generation most likely to drink. I genuinely can't help you.
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What are you looking for in a girlfriend?
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>>34617116
Be social, friends of friends, hobbies, events, anywhere. Stop making excuses, incel
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>>34617121
I get the idea that rules only apply sometimes, it’s just that there is way too much ambiguity around sometimes and the risk of getting it wrong is life ruination. I unironically had a coworker who had the hots for me grab my hand and put it up her skirt for me to realize she had been hard flirting with me for months because I thought she was just a naturally touchy person or she felt especially comfortable with me.
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>>34617127
If you get it then why can't you shut up about it?
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>>34617126
>be social
I am, my hobbies don’t have women.
>friends of friends
All my friends are from my hobby, we are all in the same boat
>events
The events for my hobby don’t have women

What now retard?
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>>34617125
Confidence
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>>34617127
It’s not life ruining, it’s a little awkward at best.
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>>34617128
I get the concept, I don’t get the execution.
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>>34617129
Broaden your horizon. Stop making up excuses, incel
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my girlfriend isnt on birth control and has been begging for me to cum inside of her lately
we both know we can't be parents right now cause we both work shitty jobs while living with our parents
but it seems like I'm the only one being rational about it while she has the most to lose from it
is this a girl thing cause I don't get it
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>>34617131
Gork, pull up the plethora of articles of guys getting fired from their workplaces, women making false statements, men being charged with false rape allegations, etc.
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Why are Koreans so good at creating beauty, both in real life and in fictional media like games?
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>>34617134
>platitude
What do you mean broaden my horizons? Find a new hobby with the purpose to find women? That’s a cardinal sin.
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>>34617125
she lets me be grouchy and boring
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>>34617115
>Isn't the gun range more of a 3rd date activity? First date seems a little forward.
I'm a 27 year old KHHV, I don't know what I'm doing.
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>>34617137
Porn is illegal
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>>34617125
Will let me punch her in sex
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>>34617137
They don't have porn so they rely on eye-fucking physically attractive women from across the pcbang
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>>34617136
No one got their life ruined for being a little flirty or asking a co worker out. You are thinking of sexual assault and rape etc. stop making up excuses, incel.
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Gender, who is in the wrong here?
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>>34616630
Dead fish
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>>34617137
I see a few children, don’t be a pedo
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Confession: I’m a man and have been pretending to be a femcel and her supporters for a few hours
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Why not just improve yourself?
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>>34617124
Yeah, genuinely alcohol companies are panicking about this
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>>34617138
Right!? I have tried nothing and I’m out of ideas
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>>34617145
>no man has ever had his face and name plastered across social media for approaching a woman
Mhmm
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>>34617146
F. You for posting this
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>>34617151
She will just move the goalposts.
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i started reading about a topic and now im freaking out about it ngl
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>>34617153
So is taking up a new hobby with the express purpose to talk to women a social sin or not?
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>>34617137
>Why are Koreans so good at creating beauty, both in real life and in fictional media like games?

Asian culture celebrates beauty

Western culture celebrates...
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>>34617135
So would she not get an abortion of she got pregnant?
It's only possible to get her pregnant on 6/30 days and that's if your swimmers are in good condition. Ovulation tracking has as good a prevention rate as condoms and it's the same in that the efficacy changes based on how closely you're following the "rules".
If you were to have sex 2 days before she ovulates there's a 30-40 chance of conception. But like 3/4 of those conceptions fail. So let's call that a 10% chance of getting her pregnant and it sticking on the peak day.
Just track her period and have sex with condoms during the week she's ovulating, feels like a decent compromise.
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>>34617154
Nothing will work if you try nothing and make up excuses, incel.
Mhmm
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>>34617151
He has crazy eyes lol
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>>34617160
You should be interested in the hobby. There so few requirements, the bar is so low. Stop making up excuses
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>>34617162
Speaking of which, why do men line up for her
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>>34617137
I'm not against Stellar blade's designs in general but you can't pretend that Evie isn't literally a child's head (like, a YOUNG child), on an adult woman's body.
A real adult woman's body, something that this discourse has fucked up is that Lily for example (or Evie) look like children. Their faces do, but their bodies are normal attractive women's bodies, but because of Eve being like if you pushed all the CC sliders to the right it pushes the perception in context of what an adult woman is vs a child, so that for retards, an adult in the Stellar Blade universe has to look like a bogged pornstar, and a normal looking body isn't 'developed' enough.
I'm still annoyed they aren't giving me a Lily/Evie body character with a Tachy face.
Tachy still wins. Tachy Supremacy.

But Evie's face still looks like a 12 year old. Not quite as bad as Lily, but Lily was more stylized, Evie is more realistic which is strange in a different way.
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>>34617162
What fucking goober shows up to something like this in socks and crocs?
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>>34617169
What fucking goober shows up to something like this at all
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>>34617168
Dafuk? This looks like a child to you?
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>>34617168
>I'm not against Stellar blade's designs in general but you can't pretend that Evie isn't literally a child's head (like, a YOUNG child), on an adult woman's body.
>A real adult woman's body, something that this discourse has fucked up is that Lily for example (or Evie) look like children. Their faces do, but their bodies are normal attractive women's bodies, but because of Eve being like if you pushed all the CC sliders to the right it pushes the perception in context of what an adult woman is vs a child, so that for retards, an adult in the Stellar Blade universe has to look like a bogged pornstar, and a normal looking body isn't 'developed' enough.
>I'm still annoyed they aren't giving me a Lily/Evie body character with a Tachy face.
>Tachy still wins. Tachy Supremacy.
>But Evie's face still looks like a 12 year old. Not quite as bad as Lily, but Lily was more stylized, Evie is more realistic which is strange in a different way.

Asian culture values youth.
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>>34617167
Whores generally are the least judgmental and least biased of all woman-kind.
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to be cringe is to be free
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>>34617168
>you can't pretend that Evie isn't literally a child's head
meet more asians irl
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>>34617171
she just has a chubby face lol
let's not bully chubby face women
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>>34617170
Fair enough
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>>34617171
>>34617172
>>34617137
>>34617175

fuck off tencent
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>>34617178
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>>34617179
marriage?
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>>34617166
I genuinely can not think of a single hobby with a reasonable proportion of women that I would find genuinely fun doing as a group.
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>>34617175
It's not my problem that asian culture handwaves pedophelia.
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>>34617168
Fictional characters are not real. There is not a single child alive which looks like these characters or even close.
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>>34617183
>adult women?! Pedophiles, all of you!
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>>34617182
You are not going to meet anyone of you don’t want to try anything.
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>>34617187
There’s ton of shit I want to try, none of it has a reasonable amount of women in it.
>You need to try things you want to do!
>But you’re not allowed to try things you don’t want to do to meet women
>but if you don’t have something which fits into that overlap

Okay, so what now?
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Femanons, wotcha up to?
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>>34617167
Any holes a goal
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>>34617191
Procrastinating sleep and pulling on my hair until my scalp hurts
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>>34617167
She's really into Indian and Arab Men... British connections?
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>>34617194
whaaa? why?
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>>34617197
Why do anxious people do most of the shit they do idk
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>>34617190
No excuses, but I will help explain what functional people do. When you try stuff, you might not find women right away, but you might find friends, and those people have friends and sometimes those friends are women. Sometimes you even find women because you have to go somewhere that is not directly attached to the thing you are doing. It’s like being outside, sometimes you meet people. Now imagine this mindset in every situation.
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>>34617191
Exercising, kinda done. Only stretching left
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why are the dongs so enormous in porn jeez
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>>34617204
Structured and coordinated male demoralization campaign.
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>>34617201
Okay, I do that. I have multiple hobbies. I have a group of friends. We are all either single, or married with people they met from high school or work. You don’t just magically find women, you find more guys who are in the same boat.
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>>34617205
im not even jealous of them though, unironically
it gets to a point where it's just bizarre to even look at sometimes
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>>34617207
None of those wives have friends?
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>>34617208
so.. then focus on the pink (Fem parts).
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>>34617209
Those men don’t bring their wives to these things. The women don’t give a shit about men playing with minifigs and rolling dice
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>>34617207
Married people have friends. Single people have friends. It’s not magic, it’s being social. Or try new things, or old things, trying things in general. Stop making up excuses, incel
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>>34617125
I'm not looking for one
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>>34617213
>hey man I know you have a wife and I know she doesn’t come to these things, but you think I can meet her so I can meet her friends, I really need a girlfriend

Very normal person you are
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>>34617211
And you never do anything else with these people?
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>>34617219
No? I work 50 hours a week, when I’m not at work I’m doing chores, if I’m not doing chores I’m at gym, if I’m not at the gym I’m painting figs, if I’m not painting figs I’m meeting my mom, if I’m not meeting my mom I’m working on my YouTube channel which is about my hobby, if I’m not working on my YouTube channel I’m studying for some gay certification for my work, if I’m not studying for some gay certification then I’m physical at the board playing with my friends, we’re adults with full lives, some have kids and most are at least a 30 minute drive from me.
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>>34616399
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How do i get over my fear of death?
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>>34617226
You too, immortal?
No, I just don’t fear death
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>>34617222
So then how would you have time to date even if you did find a willing woman?
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>>34617223
imagine having a stalker "GF
huehuehue
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Would you give tall girls 5'10+ a chance?
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>>34617226
Visit old people at the hospital
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>>34617232
>tall girls
Tall girls wouldn't date a short 5'11.998" guy.
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>>34617232
I mean, if she's pretty, yeah?
But I don't think they ever date Manlets...
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>>34617229
I make time or involve her in my activities.
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>>34617235
Unfortunately, Men have to be at least 4-6 inches taller than the Woman (minimum), b/c Fems got heels. Yes, obviously they don't wear it all the time, but still...
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>>34617232
She would have to be exceptionally above my league and a freak in bed, I’m only 6’1 so there’s not a lot of height left and I have a fetish for height differences with my preference being girls who are around 5’
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>>34617232
I know who you are... I just can't prove it yet...
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Oh yes I sure love running demoralization campaigns on Atoga.gov
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>>34617238
Seems to me likey they make a point to wear heels on dates. This could be a reason. Men are filtered faster this way.
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>>34617232
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>>34617232
literally no man has ever said "zomg shes too le lanky i cant get near that! ew!"

this weird trend of trying to make tall women the female version of manlets is so dumb
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Is wanting to rail two female best friends at once and call each the other's name a bad thing?
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>>34617254
moids like you should be castrated just for being so fucking stupid and gross.
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>>34617256
Yo I just want to put it inside one of them and move bacteria (lactobacilli) from her pussy into the other ones innards and vice versa. Them maybe they can share lick my dick like a lollipop or I could get down on them and kneel while they stand and do a double golden shower while I maintain eye contact
>>
30 min fleshlight session before work.
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>>34617254
Make it a pair of sisters. I wanna have a threesome with them both.
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>>34616889
Modern women, in modern society are not worth it.
The available women are older, fatter and physically sicker than ever (due to industrial poisoning and incorrect diet advice), and mentally ill, indoctrinated into a disrespectful, hateful ideology.
Today's women are not only lower quality than ever, but straight-up legal risk and harmful to a healthy man's life, for minimal reward. Even if a woman is a good exception, the legal risk is always present.
The current situation is similar to job market in some socialist countries, where the worker's rights have become so ridiculous and overreaching that entrepreneurship and hiring has become not worth it. The jobs disappear and the worker rights advocates will lose their jobs anyway. Good women should be advocating against feminism and for men's rights to improve the availability of men.
It may look like men have become stingy. In reality, they got pushed out by a rigged game. Also, women with their limited beauty and fertility window will suffer from this the most, not men, who can just wait until the market improves.
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>>34616928
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>>34616889
I could fix this snowbunny.
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>>34616889
Even she is laughing at the BS she's saying
>>
Men like MILF porn the same way women like rape porn. It removes their agency from the decision and makes their perversions feel better since their being ‘forced’
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Foids, why aren't you overthrowing the government?
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>>34617265
ragebait is the new currency of the world.
Moving right along...
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>>34616914
I can get the feminine energy for half price and half the headaches by getting a woman not screaming on social media though.
Not really selling me on wanting to spend more money than I need to.
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>>34616889
Find me a woman worth providing for, please.
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>>34615649
>I'm sure you'd like Carcassonne, though. You take turns drawing tiles and build a medieval French landscape together.
That does sound like fun.
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>>34617281
>tiles aren't hexes
Immediately sounds much less fun.
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Why aren't you giving ordinary women a chance? They are more than happy to have kids with you
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>>34617289
>38
>Decides she wants a baby
Train left the station about a decade ago.
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>>34617289
>38
>busted face
>fridge body

What makes you think she is average? The only nice thing about her is her hair
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>>34617289
38 year old is kinda late. I would be glad to give an ordinary 18-28 year old woman a chance, but those genuinely don't seem to exist or have gone hiding somewhere. Young women are always either fat and/or sluts and feminists.
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>>34617232
Yeah. All the girls I've dated before have been 5'4 (with a 5'2 girl once) and I'm 6'2. Since the last girl I dated I've always kind of wanted to date a tall 5'10 girl but none have shown up so far.
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>>34617289
>feminism
>masculism
Where's the gender centrism, equalism or whatever it should be called?
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>>34617295
Anon, that IS average.
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>>34617305
Women don't want men who believe in that. It's a shit test.
You have to abide by your traditional gender roles, else she gets the ick.
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Women, are you average?
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>>34617082
>you have to pretend to give a shit about stuff you don’t actually give a shit about so the woman just does the thing you want
This is why women get manipulated so easily, just say whatever you thinks she wants for 20 minutes so you can get her number and then actually begin talking to her over text so you can see if you’re actually compatible long term. These retarded checkbox mind games are so fucking stupid and tedious. If a man wants to get your number, he is getting your number.
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I'm growing more and more convinced that the meme about women not considering anything but the top tier men as people is true.
I'm also convinced that the same is true for men. Men don't even see the majority of women.
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>>34617307
Maybe for America
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>>34617310
Is he hot because the average male stick figure is bald?
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>>34617314
Well there’s 4 billion of them, you know how long it would take to see even 2 billion of them?
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>>34617314
I mean everyone likes pretty people but men are much grounded in their looksmatch ability.
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Gender
Thought on this piece of news
>Canada
>18yo M with 15F gf
>he offer his gf to have sex with him in exchange he will give her his vape
>She has sex with him
>he refuse to give his vape, say he changed his mind
>she tell the cop
>he gets arrested
>not for having sex with a 15 as their age difference is legal
>but for asking a minor for sex in exchange of a gift
>you also cannot buy a vape for a minor

I feel like she never would have told anyone if he had just gave her the fucking vape
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>>34617314
Idk, most people I see in relationships seem more or less to be looksmatched (for the lack of a better term).
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>>34616399
It really is that easy but then you get taken for granted and mistreated.
I love being a gentleman, bought her favorite chocolate, took her out, ate her out, listened to her talk about her problems only for her to start mocking me/insulting me outta the blue because she was stressed.
I don't accept people taking it out on me.
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>>34617320
Objectively untrue
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>>34617326
Go ahead and cite some stats Mr Objectively
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>>34617322
M
Girl is right, dude should honour his promises, get fucked
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>>34617322
Should've done a 50/50 split. Half the sex first, she gets the vape, then the remaining half of the sex.
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>I like shy men
>those shy men happen to be a foot taller than me, a 2:1 should to waist ratio, full hair, and built like a brick shithouse

Foids, please explain why you keep doing this?
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>>34617322
M
Borderline pedoshit. That broken promise was a cherry on top and a good wakeup call.
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>>34617232
I dont even look at girls under 5'10
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>>34617333
M
They want a strong, capable, but also controlable man that won't lash out
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>>34617335
>15 year old girl most likely at the end of puberty
>pedo shit

You people just keep making stuff up don’t you?
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How much is a vape, tho?
Like 30$ for a new one?
Sometimes I invite grown women over and it cost me more than that to deliever a pizza.
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>>34617339
My point is mostly that
>I want a man with [insert trait here]
But what they actually mean is
>I want a conventionally attractive man, and if he happens to have this trait that would be nice too. If he’s ugly it wouldn’t work
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>>34617341
Call it hebephilia or whatever. The age gap between them was already too questionable, and it doesn't surprise me that the guy turned out to be a lying, manipulative creep.
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>>34617347
>I want a conventionally attractive [person of my preferred gender], and if they happen to have [some particular trait that i find endearing] that would be nice too. If they're ugly it wouldn’t work.
Wow! No shit.
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>>34617108
NTA, strap-ons suck. They're literally a coping mechanism for missing real dick. Anyone who says otherwise will claim it's a skill issue, but plastic will never be better than the real thing overall.
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im 33 and sometimes 18 yo girl flirt with me so uhhh

also ive met way more girls online who want a way older man too
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>>34617341
I think he meant it was border illegal. As a 15 yo can not fuck someone over 20, in Canada.>>34617360
That only work until you start losing hairs
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Manons, I'd like to hear your thoughts. There's this video from a Christian conference or something and at some point the speaker said "you are a whole person and you don't need a spouse to complete you". In the comments a lot of men were disagreeing and some were even outraged by the statement. What do you think about this whole thing and the comments?
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>>34617368
>What do you think
i think you should stop asking boring questions about stupid shit
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>>34617368
1. That preacher is being heretical. God made us so we can complete each other and in marriage two become one.
2. Outside of religion, dude is still a massive faggot, women are nice
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>>34617368
>"you are a whole person and you don't need a spouse to complete you"
Sounds like how I feel about trans people. Except replace "a spouse" with "be a particular sex or gender".
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>>34617333
They want a shy man

the issue is that manhood isnt your gender, it is a status and script of behaviors/traits. So if you dont live up to that expectation, you're not really a man, you're just a person who happens to be male. This is all mostly subconscious of course its just biology
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>>34617341
Americans think I'm a pedo when I say that me and my gf got together at 20 and 16 respectively.
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>>34617107
do you faggots ever stop thinking and talking about cocks
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>>34617368
Sounds about right. I have heard so many times that a man needs a woman because the bible
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>>34617376
They're not wrong.
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>>34617383
Legal where we live. Socially fine. Neither family cared.
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>>34617373
I think it was in the context of Paul encouraging celibacy, which is not heretical at all but it's also, like, just Paul's opinion man
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>>34617360
>im 33 and sometimes 18 yo girl flirt with me so uhhh
This is not a problem. It's only a problem if you flirt back.
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>>34617368
Those guys don't even know their own religion, Christianity has long believed that celibacy is more holy than having sex. Getting married and having kids is just the least bad way to be a sex haver. Paul said so in 1 Corinthians 7
>Now for the matters you wrote about: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband. The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife. Do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. I say this as a concession, not as a command. I wish that all of you were as I am. But each of you has your own gift from God; one has this gift, another has that.
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>>34617389
>just the least bad way to be a sex haver
This is just ultra catholicism, it's not a christian thing in general
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>>34617396
Slightly over half of all Christians are Catholic, so it is true in general.
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>>34617360
What very young girls want and what is actually good for them are two very different things. When I was in my early 30s I had a 14-year-old come on to me. I told her, gently but firmly, no. That was obviously partly a matter of self-preservation(!) but even if I had been living in a country where the age of consent was 14, I would still have said no, because being with me would have been extremely bad for her. She had no real understanding of what an adult relationship actually is, we had nothing in common, and she would have had no ability to stand up to me if anything had been happening that she wasn't comfortable with. The fact that she wasn't able to understand that didn't make it okay for me to say yes. As an adult, you need to be the responsible one and make the *right* decision, not merely the legal one.
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>>34617399
Most of them are also of ethnicities that breed like rabbits
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>>34617388
Why is that a problem?
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>>34617353
>Call it hebephilia or whatever
Ephebophilia possibly. A hebephile is into 12 year olds.
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>>34617333
Because they like tall, shy men. What's hard to understand about this?
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>>34617322
The guy's an asshole. I don't care what happens to him.
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>>34617402
That's just confirming what Paul said, most people aren't cut out for celibacy but it is holier than being married.
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>>34617232
>Would you give tall girls 5'10+ a chance?
Fuck, yes.
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>>34617333
Women are constantly in a conflict of being wary of male strength/danger (leading to shy, nerdy, "softer" traits) but they are naturally turned off heavily by effeminate, submissive, weak or other genetically undesirable traits. So you need to do both.
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>>34617387
Celibacy and not needing a spouse a very different concepts. Even clergymen are married to the Church and spiritually have a spouse.
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>>34617406
No, they like attractive men, whether or not they are shy wouldn’t actually matter.
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>>34617415
>Even clergymen are married to the Church and spiritually have a spouse.
That's just a metaphor.
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>>34617403
See: >>34617401
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>>34617418
>No, they like attractive men, whether or not they are shy wouldn’t actually matter.
You're a mind-reader, are you?
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>>34617401
This is implying that you can’t possibly teach her and that you need to throw her immediately into being an adult. Would you prefer she goes after a man who has no such moral inhibitions as you? Because she probably will.
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>>34617368
It goes against Christian believes so why wouldn’t they be upset
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>>34617420
14 is very different from 18.
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Men, what do you get out of "soaking" that you wouldn't from normal sex? Is there literally anything about it that'd make you prefer to do that with your gf rather than fucking, like even one time? Because it appears to me that it's some sort of sexual bullshit test and that's it.
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>>34617389
Paul is speaking on his preferences here and he’s speaking in the frame of reference that Jesus is coming back any day soon, so just be like Jesus since he’ll be coming back. Which obviously wasn’t the case. Paul wouldn’t be so retarded as to contradict Genesis 1:28 “…Be fruitful, and multiply” commanded by God.
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>>34617423
Now you're just being ultra protestant, of the bordering-on-heresy kind
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>>34617427
Tf is soaking
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One of my female friends was recently diagnosed with colon cancer, and when I tried to comfort her over whatsapp, she said that for some reason she feels strangely at peace and unburdened. Why is that?
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>>34617430
Maybe I'm using the term wrong. It's sticking your dick in and just cuddling instead of fucking.
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>>34617427
>Soaking
Mormons do be really jewish when it comes to circumventing their own rules
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>>34617419
Everything is a metaphor nigger
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>>34617421
Please argue the case that women are actually attracted to men they find unattractive because that would be very funny.
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>>34617433
When you just get plain unlucky and your biggest worries and fears are both confirmed AND outside of your ability to immediately address it, it gives you an excuse to just say "fuck" and give up on controlling and worrying about your life.
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>>34617434
Well, I'd last longer and it'd be more intimate.
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>>34617427
Lady what is soaking?
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Women, is having a cold an ick?
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>>34617434
Sounds gay
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>>34617435
>>34617441
Clearly I didn't use the right word. I meant the thing when a guy puts his dick in but doesn't thrust and holds you close so you can't back up on it and just wants to hug and whatever.
>>34617440
The intimacy thing I disagree with. I guess the lasting longer is an upside if you worry about that.
>>34617444
Fuck no, gay sex is way more active than that.
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>>34617428
>Paul wouldn’t be so retarded as to contradict Genesis 1:28 “…Be fruitful, and multiply” commanded by God.
>The New Testament would never contradict the Old Testament!
Buddy, that's why they made a New Testament.
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>horny
>watch porn
>my 10/10 dream girl is being pounded by some dumpy fat retard who is her boyfriend

What’s going on here? I want to believe that she’s just so insanely hot and greedy that she found a guy who is nice enough to her with a semi-big dick but ugly enough for her to just walk all over him and convince him to film herself getting throat fucked. I know I’m objectively hotter than this guy by like 2 points at least, is it just that easy to find girls like that?
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>>34617448
>the New Testament contradicts the Old Testament rather than fulfills it
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I was hoping to see you at work today. Seeing you and your smile makes work days easier.
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>>34617451
Looks aren't everything. Compatibility has tons of factors that you can't even start to understand by just watching two people fuck.
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Nicotine is a negative pleasure. It doesn't feel good in and of itself it just relieves the discomfort of not using it, like taking a piss.
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>>34617455
Yes but let’s get our head out of our arses and look around in the real world, how often are 10/10 girls with 3/10 dudes for ‘compatibility’ when we just happen to know that someone’s physical attractiveness is positively correlated to how ‘compatible’ they are with others
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>>34617427
I have no idea what this means.
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>>34617462
See the first reply of >>34617445.
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>>34617464
Never heard of that being a common thing. Still not sure what's being asked.
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>biblecucks are spamming their incoherent garbage again
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>>34617445
I think "cock warming" may be more accurate.
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>>34617445
>>34617434
>>34617427
>femanon showing her autism again
I did some soaking yesterday.
In my bathtub.
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>>34617467
Sorry, I wanted people to focus on the "you are a complete person" part
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>>34617465
Idk how to be more clear when I'm asking for the perceived upsides of that vs normal sex. I guess if you've never done it, it'd just be assumptive anyways.
>>34617469
That's sounds better, I guess.
>>34617471
Don't start.
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>>34617467
I’m a recently converted bible cuck at 29. My family hasn’t been religious for 4 generations and even then you just get a fucking Jew. You should read up on the historical, cultural, and social evidence for the resurrection of Jesus. It was enough to convince me, and if you can accept that yeah the Apostles saw fucking something, then the rest just kind of falls into place.
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>>34617474
Enjoy slow comfortable intimacy without a need to "perform".
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>>34617476
Why are you even replying to me...
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>>34617474
I could just fucking cum in you instead. lol
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>>34617480
Because I wanted to share :3
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>>34617474
NTA there are no perceived upsides, it’s a seperate thing. Think of it more like an upgraded hug than sex. A hug is not a downgrade or even a lateral grade of sex.
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>>34617483
Sorry to hear whatever happened to you.
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>>34617486
Nah I’m good, appreciate it the thought though.
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Women
Do I need to wash my running clothes after every run?
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>>34617125
>What are you looking for in a girlfriend?
Usually my cum.
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>>34617485
This is a nice way of thinking about it.
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>>34617491
Why are you looking for it? Do you need it back? Not sure if you managed to spurt or not?
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>>34617498
To get it out with my fingers and then make her lick it off of them.
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>>34617457
Are you saying 10/10 literally or figuratively
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>>34617500
Alright, she’s a 9.25/10 the other 0.75 would be if she was slightly smaller and had big tits
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>>34617451
>>34617457
It's almost as if... hot women often end up with mediocre looking guys. Especially sexually deviant ones.
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>>34617503
But I’m a good looking guy and way more sexually deviant than 99.99% of men
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>>34617502
>only 0.75 for height and big tits
Nta but that makes me wonder how you assigned 9.25 to your almost unicorn.
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Men,

How do I find a complete stranger that will let me slap the shit out of them and then just go our separate ways for eternity? I dont want to get arrested for battery. I also dont want to get murdered/raped.

Is this something that exists in subculture?
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>>34617508
No man would allow you to pull stunt like that and just let you walk away. Try it and see.
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>>34617508
We don't talk about it.
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>>34617489
If you're around other people, yes. If you're running alone, probably not - washing clothing reduces it's longevity/less water wasting
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>>34617511
Lol no I'm 100 lbs soaking wet

Im thinking maybe a contract for protection? I really really want this for like therapy or whatever
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>>34617506
>goth
>pale east asian
>pretty face
>good lips
>glasses
>long straight black hair
>bangs
>not fat
>good ass
>small
>cute voice

Just a bio-weapon of a girl
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>>34617517
I can tell this was written by the whitest man alive
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>>34617386
Cheating on a spouse is also legal and sometimes encouraged. It doesn't make it ethical.
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>>34617516
>I really really want this for like therapy or whatever
Punching bags exist, even better, sign up for some sparring which will be the quickest way to ground you in reality.
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>>34617519
There is nothing unethical about dating a 16 year old provided that you don’t take advantage of her inexperience
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>>34617518
I’m sorry Hitler…
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>>34617478
Is performance not a fun part of sex for most people?
>>34617485
Idk. I feel like anything with piv has to be some sort of sex by definition.
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>>34617524
I mean, it’s ‘intercourse’. But it’s not sex.
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>>34617521
If you're too old, agreeing to date her is taking advantage of her inexperience
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>>34617527
And what defines too old in this case?
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>>34617524
>Is performance not a fun part of sex for most people?
Mostly yes, which is why the thing you're asking about doesn't seem all that common, as far as I'm aware. But sometimes you just want to take it easy, no?

>>34617525
This is dumb.
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>>34617529
Ask dumb questions, get dumb answers.
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>>34617517
>goth
>pale east asian
>pretty face
>good lips
>glasses
>long straight black hair
>bangs
>not fat
>good ass
>small
>cute voice
>This is 9.25

Yea, no, tho whatever makes you happy.
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>>34617517
>>glasses
lmao
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>>34617531
Hey man, I watch straight porn, I don’t know what you fags watch and I don’t care
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>>34617528
>>34617353
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>>34617353
Considering the fact that women have been under control of men for all of history that brought us to great levels of development, and that women being recently given the status of independent decision-makers has brought society to the brink of collapse, what's wrong with an age gap?
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>>34617534
And why is this completely arbitrary rule worth following?
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>>34617519
I do like how you ignored every other part about my statement, like how it's socially acceptable and her + her family are fine with it.
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>>34617525
I think I'm getting what you're saying. If sexual activity was a spectrum from only about getting off to only about intimacy, it'd be far on the latter's side.
>>34617529
>But sometimes you just want to take it easy, no?
No. But that's maybe a me problem.
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>>34617533
You are a boy who fetishises/puts goth girls on pedestal. To top it all off you assign basic bitch goth chick a 9.25+ value, fuck off with your wannabe "patrician" taste.
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>>34617535
Women have Schrödingers responsibility. They are both equal to men in every regard, and mental children who need to be protected against their own actions. Only the situation, usually a flavor of "man bad" collapses the waveform.
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>>34617539
>your jerk off material is cringe and plebeianpilled
>my jerk off material is based and patricianpilled

It’s extremely gay to care this much about what another man finds arousing.
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>>34617536
So you won't end up pathetically scammed like that foid >>34617322
>>34617537
Some families just allow unethical shit like that
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>>34617541
Motherfucker you are the dummy watching porn of said chick and getting bothered by some fat dude fucking your unicorn. Kek, take your meds.
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>>34617543
Sounds like it's a disagreement with your personal ethics when, as I said, society at large doesn't care, neither of our families care, and neither of us care.
Effectively the same as how Americans react, although less of the "SHE WAS 16 YEARS 9 MONTHS YOU SICK FUCK"
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>>34617543
>dating a 16 year old is unethical
>what if we account for the potential ethical risks?
>the age gap itself is an ethical risk
>why?
>because the law works to protect people from unethical behaviour

Am I meant to find this a compelling argument? Yeah don’t trade goods and services for sex with a child, basic stuff. Thats not even an ethical argument, that’s a legal argument and not even a good one.
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>>34617546
Because I can’t self insert as a fat balding slob you fucking retard, I suppose fat balding slobs don’t bother you in porn because you self insert as a cuck instead
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>>34617538
>No. But that's maybe a me problem.
In that case I can certainly imagine how he would get tired of performing all the time.
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>>34617552
Now I'm starting to feel bad. I don't ask him to perform, I just enjoy the physical aspects of our relationship differently from how I enjoy the intimate aspects.
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>>34617549
He still fucking your dream girl while you cope and post about it on mongolian basket weaving forum. Legit go and touch some grass, your dopamine receptors have to be fried at this point.
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>>34617555
>stating obvious facts as if they mean anything
Sub 80 IQ
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>>34617517
>goth
This alone links her to promiscuity. It's no wonder she does porn and it's not so surprising that she ends up with an ugly bastard.
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>>34617368
M
Don't care about religions or cults, but
A man doesn't need a woman to achieve great things and build up society (women are mostly bad and straight up liability for that). Materially, women are useful for some labor, but you could buy it cheaper elsewhere. Men also hardly "need" women for sex. Porn and masturbation exists, and total monks also have advantages in their own ways. There is some evidence of men benefitting from women in terms of nervous system regulation, but that could just come from the happiness and purpose part.
What man actually needs a woman and a family for, is usually motivation, and spiritual and emotional counterbalance, challenge and life purpose and fulfillment. Without a woman, you'll end up with a man with 6 figure salary living like picrel and then killing themselves out of boredom.
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>>34617451
>’
Brownbro...
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>>34617556
>Sub 80IQ
>Copes and seethes about his dream girl doing porn and getting piped by some fat balding guy
Kek, nice b8 i r8 8/8 m8
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>>34617562
Anything else before the short bus collects you?
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>>34617451
Your dream girl is a porn actress? Forget the ugly bastard part, that alone makes you a cuck.
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>>34617553
It's like I always tell you, it's about open communication and a certain amount of give and take.
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>>34617563
Pic related your dream girl after video is done recording. How much tissue do you use while you watch her getting fucked? Loads probably? Few for cum, few for tears right?
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>>34617565
Yeah I am directly talking about that specific woman and not her appearance as an abstraction.
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>>34617566
Well I'd rather be neurotic and ask these silly questions here than bother him with every little thing before it's an actual concern. So thanks for your continued patience.
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>>34617567
You really like thinking of other men jerking off don’t you?
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>>34617569
The goth trope alone makes her more suitable for that kind of work and that kind of man
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>>34617571
Nah i just find it interesting how you can have a hard-on while seeing your dream girl getting fucked while you seethe about the guy fucking her? Is it some kind of hate trauma jerking off session that you do or what? Who hurt you anon? Did you have a thing for a girl in high school who lost virginity to some guy you deemed uglier than you?
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>>34617576
>he’s still imagining other men jerking off
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>>34617559
Indeed
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>>34617232
5'10 yes, any taller no
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>>34617579
Can’t tell if this is meant to be for or against his point. Newton did famously go crazy
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>>34617582
against, newton was an incel
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>>34617583
Who then went insane
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>>34617577
>anons dream girl is doing porn and getting fucked by some ogre
>anon cries about it because he deems himself worthy of fucking her
>anon calls other people retards and faggots
>anon thinks he is the only sane one in this debate
This is getting better by the minute.
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>>34617579
Yes, most of the greatest minds were basically weirdos and lone misogynists, which probably DID help them achieve their potential in the pursuit of truth (because women tend to be a source of delusions and emotional manipulation). Many were hated, miserable and not even recognized until long after their deaths. If this is the path you want to take, go ahead, but is it worth it? You are also gonna be against centuries of survivorship bias and will probably just die alone as a nobody.
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>>34617586
>im really invested in what this man jerks off to NO IM NOT GAY
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Gender, do you ever feel sadness or jealousy that you will never actually experience the golden age of anything?
I constantly yearn to experience what it would be like during the golden age of Venice, lets say as an example.
The streets actually filled with people who lived there, not tourists. Stuff actually used for what it was meant for etc.

I just used one example that I want the most. But it can be anything. Any time or place in history.
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>>34617589
I'm not the one living in delulu land putting some whore who does porn on a pedestal, even going so far that you are jealous about the guy fucking her. Do you wake up angry knowing that some guy is fucking your girl while you can only jerk off to her? You do know that she doesn't even know that you exist right?
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>>34617587
Also, considering that, the society could be at the cusp of new golden age through all the incels who are kept alive by modern welfare. Though this would probably also depend on the organizational structures. Internet is pretty good compared to slow paper media of the past, but the weaknesses and lack of scholar structures and hierarchies could make it weaker. We are also being poisoned from all directions. But it makes sense why normalfags are worried about men's online spaces where the deepest collective intelligence, debate and scary evolution lies. The issue is that the corrupted old oligarchs are keeping us out of power.
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>>34617592
Yes but at least I’m not on 4chan imagining random men jacking off and being weirdly detailed and insistent about
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>>34617595
>being weirdly detailed and insistent about
Nah nah, you rather cope and seethe about your whore porn dream girl getting bent over by some ogre on tape.
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>>34617595
NTA, we mostly imagine you crying and seething right now. Not the jacking off part.
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>>34617559
Evil moid hands
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>>34617587
>Yes, most of the greatest minds were basically weirdos and lone misogynists, which probably DID help them achieve their potential in the pursuit of truth (because women tend to be a source of delusions and emotional manipulation).
Womeme, is this trvke?
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>>34617602
He also didn't like j*ws for some reason
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>>34617602
>>34617602
No, it's evil moid babble
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>>34617599
>>34617600
>continuing to obsess over another man masturbating
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>>34617600
Yall guys are hilarious asf, making each other seethe and cope.
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>>34617605
He was probably smarter than me and you, though
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>>34617579
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girls

A girl hugged me at work today and it made me feel very uncomfortable. I did not like it. Is that normal?
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>>34617612
No you’re gay
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Would you really throw miss narcissist's ass into the street? What are you black?
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>>34617097
>how did you end up fucking your bestfriend?
I don't actually remember. We had been drinking and cuddling, and she knew how I was feeling about everything.
>Did you or her start it?
I know she made the first move, but I know she wouldn't have done it if I hadn't explicitly consented.

>>34617108
>how do you and other bi/lesbians feel about strappons?
I honestly prefer them to real dick. The reason so many women prefer real dick is because of the man. Most women can't replicate a 180 - 220 lb man thrusting like he's on commission. The hip structure is too different.

>>34617120
>is your friend black?
No, she's Bulgarian and Mexican.

>>34617223
Gray actually loves Juvia, he's just consumed by survivors guilt and fears letting people get close because he might lose them again. They're a couple now.

>>34617322
Good. Don't renege a deal. There is an irony in a Canadian Indian giving.

>>34617591
>do you ever feel sadness or jealousy that you will never actually experience the golden age of anything?
Not sadness. More in line with FOMO. I'll never see the hanging gardens of Babylon. I'll never live in the glory of the Pax Romana or Tang Dynasty. The modern era is doubtlessly the best time to be alive, but even without all of our modern comforts, there is something so appealing about being amongst history that defines an era. I wonder if the people during the Renaissance or American Revolution knew just how much the actions of their contemporaries would echo throughout history, or if it just felt like it does for regular people now.

>>34617610
Newton got bitcoin'd. Peak autism.
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>>34617608
Being smart means nothing if you are a maladaptive schizo. Midwits especially should stop believing that being a miserable misogynistic loner is going to help them get ahead in life. They will in fact contribute nothing to society and end up living as trash gremlins, which is the only true part about evil moid's post over here >>34617559
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>>34617591
Someone in the future will probably seethe and and cry about not getting to experience the 2020s.
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>>34617615
>Most women can't replicate a 180 - 220 lb man thrusting like he's on commission
NTA, can you?
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>>34617612
>girls
>A girl hugged me at work today and it made me feel very uncomfortable. I did not like it. Is that normal?
Perhaps you really do have autism or just don't like being hugged by people you're not personally close to.
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>>34617616
But Bobby is right about the Jews
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>>34617615
Didn't ask, Entjeet
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>>34617454
I thought you were both in different relationships
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>>34617617
I very much doubt that
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>>34617433
Probably because the world sucks ass. Are you sure she's not lying
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>>34617618
Not on top. I don't have the weight behind me. But I've still been told I'm (one of) the best by two women with high body counts.
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>>34617514
>washing clothing reduces it's longevity/less water wasting
This is my thinking.
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>>34617618
korraposter lifts more than most of the male anons kek
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Anyone else hold their breath while urinating?
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I think I know why women tend to find ‘bad boys’ enticing even though they’re objectively retarded, lower IQ men tend to not discuss abstract ideas or events, they discuss people and visceral feelings because it’s all they can process but it’s also something which women love because women also like discussing people and visceral feelings.

Tell me I’m wrong
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>>34617625
Nostalgia for history that you didn't get to experience and almost certainly have a romanticised rose tinted impression of has always been a thing and I don't see that changing.
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>>34617127
Very unnecessary. She could’ve just told you
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>>34617617
Maybe. I liked the COVID lockdown.
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>>34617627
If I'm with a woman with lots of experience who thinks she's good with a strap-on but it's honestly very subpar compared to real sex to me, is it a most likely a matter of me being too picky, or that she actually sucks at it? If this is the wrong thread for gay questions, I totally understand if you'd rather not get into it.
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>>34617633
Most people date people who are within their intellectual range. Most people are also midwits. Hope that helps
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>>34617641
Both of you should fuck off to >>>/lgbt/
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>>34616439
>medicated for meme diseases, probably sterile from steroid use
1/10
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>>34617643
Most people get into relationships with their intellectual equals. But in terms of sleeping with men, women like ‘bad boys’
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>>34617591
We live in the golden age of lulz. The entire world is like a scaled up version of 2008 /b/.
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>>34617641
It really depends what makes it subpar. Because if it's like a rhythm or strength thing, different strokes for different folks. But her not being able to tell you aren't enjoying it is a big indicator that she's not good at it. A good partner is able to find out what their partner likes, either through physical indicators or good communication. That she didn't do that yet hyped herself up means she sucks.
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>>34617645
This is the last I'll ask about it, sorry.
>>34617653
We both acknowledged I didn't enjoy it and she said she tried her best to approach it from all angles. Like literally and figuratively. Nothing we tried over multiple times ever felt decent enough for me to want that over just normal sex, and it was definitely never close to real piv. That's what makes me think it has to be a matter of me being incapable of enjoying it for some reason, her being bad at it, or that strap-ons just suck in general. I know me and I know her, so I've always been very inclined to believe the last option.
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>>34617656
Really, the only thing you can do is note the differences you experience from a strap and from fucking men and deciding that those things are what make it good for you. Are you sexually attracted to women? If so, do you have a preference for men? Because it could all be mental too.
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>>34617656
Straight women have innate humiliation fetish in order to fuck men and take their semen inside them. Dildos and strapons are just too clean and sterile for them.
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>>34617640
Same
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>>34617665
>>34617666
I'm definitely attracted to women, romantically and sexually. But if I had to compare it to how I feel about men, I'd say I find guys more sexually attractive. If it's all mental and there's nothing I can really do to change my experience, then I guess that'd be a convenient way to just accept it and not feel like I'm missing out on something.
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Dear ladies, how come you rarely dye your hair white/silver?
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>>34617671
Then fuck off to >>>/lgbt/
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Is it racist to have preferences?
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>>34617683
If you go to a touristy destination you will see how ugly asian people are compared to normal people
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>>34617666
>too clean and sterile for them
maybe that's why I don't like lesbian porn
just looks like eternal foreplay that never gets to real sex/penetration
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>>34616640
It’s not. It’s much worse.
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>>34617683
I hope so
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>>34617686
Lesbian sex isn’t real, lesbians are all still technically virgins
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>>34617685
I literally live next to K-town and even the "average" looking ones still mog the hell out of white "women" who look worse than actual normal people
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>>34617616
>telling the truth is evil
typical foid opinion.
Also, I didn't say it helps you get ahead. But they did indeed contribute to the society, in a massively definitive, tide-turning way, fruits of which you too are enjoying right now.
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>>34617675
obviously, because thats the old people colour
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Is it possible to change someone poltical views through the power of love and attention? My crush reciprocates my love, but she’s a writer for my college and all her articles indicate some poltical points find troubling (including some of my fellow students). I love her but I want to debate her on some of her poltical thoughts and convince her of better ideals.
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>>34617685
Asian women generally aren’t fat which put them leagues above white women
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>>34616991
What a cop-out
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Men,
I want to be better in bed for myself and my husband. Is sex therapy something that helps with that?
Key issues:
-haven't been able to orgasm with PIV and that's all he will do - sort of a "me" problem that I never argued about because it sorta is?
-he's saying my pH is off so he hasn't been doing foreplay - I dont entirely think this is true but take that for what it is)
-he says my vagina muscles hurt him and he struggles penetrating
-he feels uncomfortable because of facial expressions I make
-i feel super awkward most times, especially when I overthink and try too hard
-he says my use of teeth during felatio is no good
-my sex drive is super high, his is low (because of me, he says)
-we have 1 kid and want more

Are these fixable things or am I delulu?
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>>34617695
No. People might change about one or two issues but changing their entire political outlook is just impossible because it’s linked to your biology. E.g. when men have greater upper body strength they become more libertarian, people on the left have less active amygdala which make them more open to foreign people, etc.
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>>34617019
It’s been a couple of weeks.
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>>34617643
>Most people date people who are within their intellectual range
This explains why I'm into my sisters. Everyone in our family have like top 2% marks in school. Our family is literally just too intelligent for this world.
This might also explain why there's a limit to IQ. Because the genetic defects from incest pulls the IQ back down.
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>>34617685
White women are ugly
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>>34617700
>political outlook is linked to biology
I’m not shocked I heard this, I’m shocked it’s the first time I’ve ever heard this
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>>34617700
Interesting, where can I read more about this?
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>>34617683
Yes, but it's understandable, greener grass and all that shit
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>>34617699
I have no idea what sex therapy is and it sounds like a meme
Not cumming from PIV is not abnormal, just use toys for clitoral stimulation during sex,
your man is not nearly autistic enough to detect minute changes in your vagina’s pH he is lying
If your vagina is literally clamping down so hard he feels pain he wouldn’t even be able to penetrate you, as you know penis are extremely hard, he’s also making shit up
What sort of facial expressions? This could be worked on
You probably are overthinking it, get drunk, watch some porn together and do it completely sloppy a few times to end your nerves

Okay I actually agree with him on the teeth, cover your teeth with your lips

If his sex drive is low because of you that’s unfair. Sex is a two way street.
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>>34617675
>Dear ladies, how come you rarely dye your hair white/silver?
My wife does, but I would literally have to destroy my hair to do it. I've bleached my hair one time and I'm not doing it again.

>>34617683
>Is it racist to have preferences?
No, but most racial preferences are rooted in racism and fetishization.

>>34617691
>Lesbian sex isn’t real
It is, and it's peak.

>>34617710
Damn, what a shelf.
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How do I stop my girlfriend from trying to be a social media star and “making content” into our regular life experiences?
We make a good solid living and I think her tiktok posts have been fucking stupid
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3 month relationship anniversary tonight, getting dinner and seeing a cabaret thing (USA 250th celebration themed). Should I get my gf anything or is that cheesy?
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>>34617706
It’s not popular to talk about because both the mainstream right and especially the mainstream left need tabula rasa to be correct otherwise massive pillars of their ideological framework fall apart if in fact, we are not blank slates and some traits are inherent and not created though sociocultural or economic factors.

>>34617709
Google

There’s a fucking lot of our politics that is just innate within our physiology, neuro structure, hormones, etc.
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>>34617715
>it's peak
It's cope. Men just damaged you too much, so you settled your brownoid ass for a weaker slut who still cheated on you with her boss, apparently.
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>>34617715
Sex is between a man and a woman. Gays only perform the appearance of sex, a crude simulacrum which is why it’s either damaging to them or they require synthetic parts to make it work
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>>34617717
Does it matter?
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>>34617706
>I’m shocked it’s the first time I’ve ever heard this
New?
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>>34617710
This girls face is mid
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>>34617714
For the faces I make sad/pained expressions (not even intentionally) but I know when I look at him he is not enjoying himself and it makes me feel really sad.

He says I just lay there and make no suggestions but I disagree. I'm touching his arms, thrusting my hips, will go on top - maybe not verbally talking very much (again feels awkward). Ive tried grabbing/playing with his butt but he's a "no" to that and I respect it

Im so sexually frustrated and touch starved. I feel like all our other relationship squabbling stems from the problems in bed.
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>>34617695
There was some episode on Based Camp explaining that most women want a man with a strong ideals goals etc. for her to tag along with. In that frame, the way women are turned into politicians is unnatural and you may be able to reverse that. But to do that, you have to be able to show that your ideals are better than hers and worth it for her to follow and that you aren't going to crumble to first obstacle. But if she is intelligent, or too invested into her political career, that could prove hard to do.
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>>34617718
Get her some USA themed flowers. It will be cheesy but it will look intentional
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>>34617724
When I’m just trying to go out to eat and then she keeps trying to make videos rerecoridng snd shit and has my face plastered all over social media when I purposefully keep a low social media profile, it matters to me
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>>34617683
Reminds me I saw a k drama on the highway yesterday. Guy got out of his car and started walking, girl chased him down and then threw herself down infront of him crying.
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>>34617726
No wonder 4chan is mostly right wing (which is good)
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>>34617730
I’m not gonna fix my curbs. But she pretty much wrote an article saying minority racism was over exaggerated at my college and that there is a large group reviled around self victimization. Even though she was linked letters related to minority experiences of racism at the college.
I’m afraid she’s gonna get picked up by a powerful voice in the area and be used as a pawn
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>>34617649
It feels much more like ebaum’s world out there imo
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Do you think my psychologist is speaking to my psychiatrist about me (as a patient)
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>>34617737
I’m not gonna dox my crush*** is the first sentence. Not sure why it auto corrected to fix my curbs

Large group based* around
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>>34617721
>Men just damaged you too much
lol imagine. It couldn't have anything to do with just preferring women.

>>34617722
Just say you can't eat pussy.
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>>34617739
no, psychiatrist are lazy fucks who just prescribe medication
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>>34617739
Why wouldn't he be?
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>>34617728
Your expressions mean that you’re probably too tense, I do seriously recommend getting drunk or high as fuck and going to town on each other. From my experience, the pain/sad expression isn’t a bad sign I know exactly what it looks like and it’s more an expression of submission. I would say ask him directly what porn he likes, don’t judge him, and take note of the girls faces. Some girls give this very doe eyed, admiring look which I call the sex drunk face, it’s much more relaxed open, usually with wide eyes and a slightly agape mouth which he might prefer.

When he says you lay there, ask him what he would like instead? Again, if he’s too awkward or shy to express this, ask him for porn to watch. However, this seems like he is having performance issues and he feels ashamed and he’s blaming you.
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>>34617737
Your crush is based and you’re a fucking cuck, I hope you fucking eat rocks. It’s been proven over and over that minorities over report and perceive racism where there is none. Letters and anecdotes don’t mean shit because people can make it and minorities have every incentive to do so because it provides them with more resources.
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>>34617745
I don't want my psychiatrist to know that I pray to god. You don't get a divine mandate to know everything about a person
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>>34617742
I don’t need to eat pussy because I have a dong and I can lift a woman over my head with ease
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>>34617753
No woman has ever enjoyed sex with you. That's not me insulting you either.
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>>34617754
The woman who contact me for sex would disagree.
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>>34617754
You have NPD and sadism
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>>34617721
>a weaker slut who still cheated on you with her boss, apparently.
I guess lesbian sex just wasn't enough for her
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>>34617739
I don’t think they can unless you give them permission to do so.
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>>34617756
NTA, I hope you know no one believes this shit considering you're on 4chan describing sex in a way that sounds like you've either never had it or are awful at it
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>>34617762
When did I ever describe how I had sex?
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>>34617763
Also nta but in the reply where you said you didn’t eat pussy because you have a dick
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>>34617762
I'll trust him over a foid who behaves like ENTJ
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>>34617747
We both watch futa/mtf. He says he doesnt watch cis women in porn anymore because I'm the only woman for him. I felt like things were not this hard before the baby. I told him that I would give him blow jobs every night. He asked if the shoulder rubs were incentivizing me during oral, I told him no - that his pleasure was the incentive and he was just like "good for you"

It's so frustrating because I want to do so much with him, I do think about sex a lot. Even opened the door asking what fantasies he has and he's just "I like having sex"

Like sure, I get that the goal of sex is ultimately procreation but I want the other stuff - having fun, feeling good, and growing closer.

I think he lk hates me :( told him how I feel and he denies (an obvious response but doesnt change my feelings)
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No sex before marriage means no eating pussy before marriage, doesn’t it
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>>34617764
If by me saying I have a penis implies that I have sex using my penis, then I suppose you’re technically correct that I did describe how I had sex in the most generic of terms?
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>>34617766
Have you physically changed at all?
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>>34617706
Also, there's a brain region that turns people woke when suppressed.
>people in whom the targeted brain region was temporarily shut down reported 32.8% less belief in God, angels, or heaven. They were also 28.5% more positive in their feelings toward an immigrant who criticised their country.
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>>34617766
>We both watch futa/mtf.
Bait or legit betacuck?
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>>34617769
Im back to my pre-baby weight but my face looks older (more tired/ wrinkly) he assured me that my body/looks are not the problem

Post partum I struggled with mood. We both feel unappreciated, disrespected, and resentful. I think stemming from our behavior/frustration/personality differences come to light
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>>34617770
Really makes you think!
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>>34617771
Im not sure. Im not sure if his porn pref is because I revealed that's what I was into? He does also watch bdsm but has never even shown a glimpse of that irl
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People said join a hobby group to meet women. What are the best hobby groups to do that?
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>>34617775
amateur game development
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tbf, i can respect a man who doesn't perform cunnilingus, as long as he doesn't expect me to suck his dick
putting genitals in a mouth is a bit too gross, and piv is better anyway
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>>34617775
Cooking! Or also hiking/athetics
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>>34617772
Okay, presuming you’re being truthful and haven’t just convinced yourself of a lie, maybe therapy is a good option for him. If genuinely you are making efforts, you haven’t ballooned, you’re wanting to fuck, you’re doing everything he wants, and he’s still not happy, that’s not a you issue. Something has happened with him and if you’re unhappy with his change, you have the right to express that and ask if he can seek help (go with him if he really wants).
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>>34617763
>i view oral sex as a compensatory action
>having a penis makes me a good sex partner
>upper body strength makes me a good sex partner
The whole post is a fucking caricature of how mediocre straight sex is for women
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>>34617781
Who are you quoting? I never said literally any of those words.
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>>34617778
I’m actually pretty decent at cooking and athletics, never tried hiking though so I guess that’s in the bucket list!

>>34617776
Sounds kind of fun. I used to do computer science when I was in college, even had a google internship but I burnt out and changed my major
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>>34617783
NTA, but you're stupid and I'm glad other people are laughing at you. It's like you're pretending to be retarded on purpose.
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>>34617699
>>34617699
>haven't been able to orgasm with PIV and that's all he will do
No, sis, if he won't touch your clit during piv he has a skill issue or is retarded
>-he's saying my pH is off so he hasn't been doing foreplay - I dont entirely think this is true but take that for what it is)
Him fucking you too often can throw your ph off. Ok I went back and the too often sex is probably your fault. Quit using his cheesy cock, sis.
>-he says my vagina muscles hurt him and he struggles penetrating
So you're not relaxing because he sucks at sex.
>-he feels uncomfortable because of facial expressions I make
He's autistic.
>-i feel super awkward most times, especially when I overthink and try too hard
Because you're not actually relaxing enough for sex comfortably.
>-he says my use of teeth during felatio is no good
That's a given, you're suplosed to put your lips over your teeth and it will hurt you a bit.
>-my sex drive is super high, his is low (because of me, he says)
This is probably not going to work because he is too autistic. When women have higher drives than their man, it usually turns into the man resenting sex because they arrogantly feel like they should be setting the drive.
>-we have 1 kid and want more
I'm sorry. I don't know what to tell you other than your man is too autistic.
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After how many dates do I ask her to be my gf?
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>>34617780
Thanks, yeah im trying to be objective and unbiased as possible. We're both willing to figure this stuff out but just dont really know where to start. Therapy it is I guess. I know I need to just be nicer to him (regardless of him mean/condescending - that's the struggle) and hopefully fix all my ingrained trauma responses and it'll work out
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>>34617789
>if I just pretend you said things you never did, I win the argument

Yeah I suppose, good for you
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>>34617793
>>34617753.
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Women who travel alone (or with majority female friends(. How likely are you to sleep with a local or a vacationer/traveler ?
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>>34617796
Yeah I know what I said. Nothing you said is truthful about what I said. Or do you lack reading comprehension?
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I didn't want to spend white boy summer single this year. :(
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>>34617797
Not at all. I'm more likely to sleep with one of my friends. And that's a knock at how unlikely I'd hook up with strangers, not an admission of wanting to fuck my friends.
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I want to be a mom, kids are so cute. I love when i go out and little kids try to say hi to me.
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Why is long distance so hard
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Why don’t women want to fuck their male friends as often as men want to fuck their female friends?



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