>>34662165
This is like asking how I "cope" with the fact that she wears size 5 shoes. It's not something that needs coping with. It's a fact about her, but it's not something I attach any importance to.

>>34662176
i forgot how reddit this board can be

>>34662165
There's nothing to "cope" about. The cult of virginity is just one more element of society designed to make you miserable.

>>34662165
Virginity isn't a real thing, it's merely a social construct.

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my fiancee had been with one man before me and i can safely say I never coped with it well and always resented her for it. feel like I must say I am a very insecure man, and we had other issues but it absolutely contributed to the collapse of our relationship. irony is any woman i will possibly marry in the future will have to cope with the fact I am not a virgin, but it feels as if virginity is more an important thing for a woman even though it is certainly a double standard.

Most people grow out of it by the time they turn 18.

>>34662165
well OP, this is how they cope
>>34662176
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>>34662165
Reasonable people recofnize that virginity is not the issue - promiscuity is. A woman in, say, her 20s who slept with 2 men in the context of significant emotional commitments is a better bet than one who offered her hands and mouth to all while still keeping that hymen intact.

>>34662165
It is striking that the same guy who panics and considers himself a freak for being a virgin at 17 or 18 expects women to keep themselves "pure" until he evenually gets around to them

>>34662507
kek, i didn't intend for this to be bait i was genuinely asking

>>34664173
And you're getting genuine answers.

>>34662165
Normal well adjusted men don't give a single fuck about something like that. Go outside.

>>34662165
they are addicted to pussy. normies are sex addicts and they are disgusting. they do whatever cope they can it doesnt matter because you are talking to a retarded drug addict, it isnt supposed to make logical sense. they will never feel shame or anything. they shame you for not getting high almost in an angry way. it isnt even like "man you should try it it's so good" they're like "YOU ARE JUST MAD YOU DONT HAVE ANY HEROIN!!!" it's like woah. calm down junkie hobo freak

>>34662165
by stopping seeing them as cattle, as objects with market value. people like you make mistakes, go through phases, follow their instincts and pulsions. and women, like people, like you, do all of that. do have standards but keep in mind that you have to judge the other person as your equal, and not more nor less harshly than you would judge yourself or one of your bros.

>>34662165
No real trad western man should have a problem with accepting sloppy seconds cuckoldry as this is a very traditional thing to do, or has been so for the past 60 years in the west. You would only make a big issue out of it if you were a brownoid or an anti-western heathen who hates our divine, ran through women whose inners were sanctified by chad's cock and brad's cum. Stop being such a pathetic civilizational traitor OP.

>>34664615
>having sex is like taking drugs
Is this how incels cope with never seeing pussy in real life?

>>34662165
by accepting that it's my fault.

the bad things that happened to her were directly tied to evil and spiritually lazy (at best) or heinous (at worst) times in my life.

if I had been on the right path, and praying properly to protect her, she would have been pure for me.

I was tremendously more evil than she was, and she accepted and forgave me. how could I not forgive her, since it was actually my fault?

our fates are entwined, our auras were conceived before time in God's mind. my wicked choices harmed things, but I won't let them ruin it for me.

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>>34664797
This.
Afghani women are chaste and pious because afghan men are chadly & devout to their faith. They btfo any whoreish & cuckish elements in their society like true chads.
Western men don't have the balls & brains to thot patrol hard and deserve to get cucked cuz if men don't stand up for themselves, no one will, and the women especially will betray them

>>34662165
The biggest slut I ever met was technically a virgin. She was determined to go to her wedding night with an intact hymen, but any guy who accepted that boundary could have free use of her hands, mouth and ass. And many did.

I would rather have a woman who could express love and emotional commitment through healthy sexuality.

>>34664836
>"technically virgin"
Lmao. No, and you know it.
Intact hymen means jackshit when it can be reconstructed by surgery and OP clearly mean't virgnity in body count connotation. Thanks for accepting you're a sloppy seconds cuckold

>>34664797
Are you also the reason my dog died?

>>34662533
I don't. Almost like we're different people.

>>34662165
Because I wasn't a virgin when I met her. And the girl I did mutually lose my virginity with cheated on me with my best friend and my wife has been faithful for years.

>>34662165
I dump them then hope my next gf is a virgin, repeat. It really is disgusting to have to settle for whores, it brings me physical pain.

>>34665083
You're literally a whore yourself

>>34665086
No sex b4 marriage dude. I do exclusively warm approach and "take things slow".
Women wait for the man to escalate, so I just don't.

>>34662165
>but how do most men cope if they do at all?
Having a cuckold of a father who was ready to settle down with a ran through woman, really helps with the copes. The avg person in the west was indeed birthed by a whore and a cuckold, so the norm is indeed having a tainted heritage .
Just take the leap of faith in sloppy seconds cuckoldry and I promise that you will not regret it.
>>34664836
Whores gotta lose it somewhere don't they. Besides, I highly doubt your first love was a virgin.

>>34662165
Always remember that a virgin is just a whore who hasn't got started yet.

>>34665257
Quite the opposite. The longer a woman stays virgin, the higher the odds she is anything but a whore. Also.....
>Foids ugly as hell and being virgins as a result?
Ugly women have just as if not higher body counts that mids or high tier beckies in this day & age

>>34662165
>i'm obviously a virgin myself otherwise i wouldn't ask
Don't you think you just answered your own question OP? Most men with wives and gfs are not virgins themselves so there's nothing to cope about. Normal people don't even think of their partners being with someone else in the past unless they're cucks who get off on it.

>>34662165
>how do most men do this?
The women do it for you. They will always tell their next guy that you were bigger, hotter, and able to make her cum harder and blah blah. The women soothe the ego blow for you, women are very aware of this and they do their part to soften the blow. Though don't ask women to admit this is what they do, they'll never admit that in 1,000,000 years.

>>34662165
Most happily married men fucked virgins to some degree in their youth. They got theirs, and now virginity is something they have no concern over. It's the cuckolds in denial, who were losers in youth and have never fucked a virgin, who have miserable relationships. The answer is to either find your miracle virgin (unlikely) or detach yourself from the women, if any, you do see.

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>>34665274
>Also.....
about that.

>>34665279
>Normal people don't even think of their partners being with someone else in the past
precisely because they're cuckolds and came from a family where sloppy seconds cuckoldry was the norm

>>34665315
No, that's just your weird christfag/tradcuck projection. When I want to reminisce about sex someone had in the past, I think back on my own.
You...can relate to that, surely anon? kek

>>34665334
Nice cope. What's even more fascinating is just how normalized cuckoldry is

>>34665334
>Christfag/tradcuck projection
Nta but can you reddit atheists stop this shit? Not every Christian has crippling autism where they expect everything must be perfect and clean and spotless. Some of us understand that chastity ≠ virginity because we actually study theology.

>>34665334
I literally am an atheist and even I'm disgusted by ran through women. Kys cuckold

>>34662165
I cope by not dating women and simply jerking off. Not worth the risk I'm not trying to get herpes

No one gets married to their high school sweetheart anymore. We are no longer living in the same pre 60s society, your parents probably were not virgins were then met either, although your grandparents might have been. You either accept this, or you look for a hyper religious girl. Problem is, most of the people who are neurotic about virginity don't even go to church and they couldn't stand the hyper religious types, if these women would pick them at all. But realistically, most girls lose their v card in their teenage years, but obviously that's off limits and illegal.
So you either accept this and take what you can get, remain alone for the rest of your life, or go try to find a chaste woman who will probably never come, and who you will probably not stand.

>>34662165
I don't, cause mine is. I just found a light-enough brown girl.
Sucks to be a race-loyalist now that a slut phase is expected for every 5 year stint in adult kindergarten.

>>34665499
>brown foids
does he know about their supposedly pious past bros....

>>34665308
Don't fucking start. Obviously if someone is good at relationships they will probably find the right partner early, get into a stable relationship, and stay in it; also obviously, someone who is bad at relationships will end up with a long string of failed relationships, and hence a large number of former partners, and it's also more likely that their current relationship/marriage will break down too, for the same reason. So of course there is a correlation between a large number of previous failed relationships and a higher chance of the current one failing too. But you can't game that by getting with a virgin. Ever person who has a long string of failed relationships behind them now was once a virgin; and they weren't any better at relationships then than they are now. The only way you can tell if someone is good at relationships is if they're already in a marriage that will last their whole life, in which case you've already missed your chance. So trying to get with a virgin is pointless; there's no way to tell if they're going to go on to rack up a dozen exes or not.

I cope by paying for sex until I feel contented and ready to settle down. Then I'm sufficiently low-value that taking a used woman doesn't feel so bad.

>>34665551
You actually can. A virgin woman at 25 is a far better bet than a virgin at 18 as odds are she saved herself.
>mentally ill women are virgins
quite the opposite. that's also why le bpd whore is a stereotype. This obviously doesn't mean mentally sane women aren't whores either.
The past is the best predictor of the future and the earlier a foid loses her v card, the higher the likelihood she's nasty whore in the making

>>34664823
although I wasn't there for her, I will be an extremely strong and demanding authority figure to any daughters.

they'll also hopefully be paired off during their teenage years in arranged marriages to men in the 20-30 age range.

so, ultimately, I don't like this aspect of our reality (hers and mine), but I can't change it now. accept and forget the past, fix the present, save the future.

>>34665610
I'll also just say to any guys on here, I think if you're chaste during the courtship phase, you can address and forgive the past, because you're not treating her as a pleasure object, but as a person.

when I slept with exes, I started to want to do things like one-up their ex-bfs in the bedroom, and their pasts drove me utterly insane and corrupted every one of those relationships.

regardless of whether you remain chaste, I strongly recommend asking her about her past, disclose yours (heavily sterilized, on both sides, naturally), but in a private place of trust and vulnerability. decide whether you can accept that, and if so, ask her to apologize, you apologize as well, forgive eachother, and just forget about it.

if she doesn't have an STD, a child, or had an abortion, and wasn't just a total slutho, honestly, accept it and move on. trying to settle the score or oneupsmanship tells your mind that it matters more than it does.

>>34662165
The first girl I dated back in high school was a virgin before we met. After that I dated some girls who weren’t. The girl I’m dating now was a virgin before we met. From experience I’m telling you that it makes no difference. She’s not going to be magically more drawn to you. If anything it’s actually worse because she has no baseline to judge you on except the idea she has in her head about what a bf is supposed to be, which is probably a far more romantic fantasy than any real dude she would’ve actually dated. Also what her friends tell her about their relationships, which fortunately for me is mostly complaining.

Now, I would say that my gf’s tendency to be cautious and rational and not do stupid shit compared to girls I’ve dated in the past is one of the reasons our relationship has worked out well, but that’s a characteristic of her personality not some side-effect of her virginity. It makes no sense to obsess over that shit.

>>34665586
>A virgin woman at 25 is a far better bet
It's a far better bet she's asexual and you'll end up with a dead bedroom from day 1.

>>34665348
>Not every Christian has crippling autism
Maybe not, but every Christian on this board apparently does.

>>34665724
My priority is children though, not mindless sex

>>34662165
There are many ways to cope. If you eat enough blackpills without giving up and going NEET mode, eventually you get a bit older, a bit more enlightened, and realize "love" has always been a farce, a noble lie at best, and all that matters is having healthy children and trying to give them stable upbringings. Before the internet made it nearly impossible, women just lied about their virginity. You stop thinking with your balls and accept that every man is a cuck, every Chad is cucked by other Chads. A wise man once called it the "total cuck state". It is what it is. What really matters are your ability to cope, your hobbies, and your sons. You can bide your time and support the islamists when they make their bid if you want any hope of fundamentally changing things.

>>34665739
>Maybe not, but every Christian on this board apparently does.
It's cuz of were we are. We're in the social reject website, I count myself in that pile too not being a hypocrite but it's true lol. It's an autism ting. Y'know how they screamed as kids because their cup pudding still had a tiny piece of unpeeled foil on the rim like it upset them greatly? That's the same shit when they find out a girl had sex before, drives them crazy and they go into perfectionistic overload and then a spiral into catastrophic shit where they ruminate on shit like whether or not the past guy had a bigger dick "what if he had a bigger cock." "What if she preferred his cock" "what if he made her cum more" "what if I dont compare" "what if she goes back to ex if I can't perform as good"
Neuroticism b like that.

The only thing a Christian should be saying is wait until marriage, because it avoids many problems when you do. If you can't or couldn't, yeah that's a sin, but just make sure you marry the girl if you had sex with her. So no casual stuff

>>34665740
And yes I'm an atheist as well, more on the agnostic side though

>>34665279
This is also wrong. People oscillate between such black and white extremes it is insane

>>34665757
>projection
Uh great going buddy

>>34665849
>Projection
That's not projection, that's called observation and being able to understand how other types of people think based on experience of knowing them, getting their confessions on it, seeing it play out socially either online or offline, and whatever. Projection would be if I accused you personally, specifically (you) of a mindset or attitude you don't have, but I do. Anyway who cares, it's not even a massive crime to be neurotic, funny fact is if the autismus maximus male were to have the balls to admit his insecurity to the girl in a non dramatic, calm collected way, she'd give him big respect and start catching feelings for him. Because he'd be doing what most guys don't by doing something called "opening up" and being "sincere". And trust me it works because I had to stop doing that as a guy because I'd do that unconsciously cause I talk like that to everyone and every time I did that sorta talking to a girl I was always getting confessions of her feeling feels for me within a week and I wasn't even trying I was just trying to be polite and honest.

>>34665757
Did you marry that way? Or just hypothetically speaking? I never met a woman who wouldn’t be a virgin so would you marry a non virgin if you’re Christian?

>>34665877
Yeah I married that way, though I recognize the sex before the marriage was sinful and both me and wife confessed to the priest and all is well. Neither of us were virgins when we met, I had 2 sexual encounters before her she has 1 before me. Both of us were the type of people who had did that only because these were long term relationships. I always intended to marry and plan for a future when I dated I played for keeps, my wife tried the same in her previous relationship. But it didn't work out for me in my past relationships and didn't work out for hers before she met me. My exes didn't want marriage, her ex didn't want marriage. Both of us were young and dumb and naive in our respective timelines. But I'm glad my two relationships failed because if they hadn't I wouldn't have met her

>>34662165

Most women are virgins. Stop listening to Jewish propaganda.

>>34665889
>Both of us were young and dumb and naive in our respective timelines
>But it didn't work out for me in my past relationships and didn't work out for hers
Basically why non-virgins are better. Pretty much everyone out there is looking for true love.
If you two had prioritized purity over practicality, you would have ended up with your first partners.

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>>34665905
huh???
The true bodycounts are very much closer to the square of the reported numbers

>>34662165
I literally just don't care. Im a high body count degenerate slut myself I've fucked obese women, prostitutes and have herpes. As long as I find her attractive and she genuinely loves me then that's good enough for me even if she's a rode 20 cocks. Now if wete talking Bonnie blue tier then no fucking way.

>>34665910
>If you two had prioritized purity over practicality, you would have ended up with your first partners.
That's a interesting way to frame it, paints an ugly picture. Thank God I didn't marry my first ex. I wasn't a saint in that relationship or anything, treated her well enough but I treated myself bad, still caused problems. But she was a pretty troubled girl. Pretty sure marriage with her would have crashed both of our lives into a gutter lol.

>>34665930
When even a sociopathic womanizer says "no fucking way" to Bonnie Blue that's when you know Bonnie really is the physical manifestation of Lilith or something. I'm surprised she hasn't killed herself yet or got herself killed

>>34665953
What about your wife’s relationship? Why it didn’t work out?

>>34665960
He wasn't faithful, had an addiction to prostitutes

>>34665617
Honestly, I have no problems with widows or rape victims so for me it isn't about virginity but who you are as a person and your values. I have no real problems with comparison when it comes to widows their dead husbands.
Even if i 100% knew i was a woman's best I would still say no if she lost her virginity to her high school boyfriend consensually or had a single hookup but her bodycount is 1 or 2.

>>34666064
Nta but that's very specific. Is it because the rapist is in jail/runaway and the spouse is dead so no possibility they can cheat on you with them so you feel more reassured or what?

>>34666160
It isn't about comparison. I just want someone who values sex and relationships as much as I do.

This kind of suggestion about comparison and insecurity blahblah is what I find so frustrating about this topic because it isn't the only reason at all.

I can say this though: if that was my reasoning and how I felt I would feel 100% entitled to do so as well. Insecurity is barely a character flaw or something to be ashamed about because it isn't a moral failing.

>>34666207
Ah then I believe you. Someone who is insecure would not have the mindset you have. You're right it isn't a moral failure and everyone is insecure, same as how everyone can be happy or angry or whatever. What's the logic for the relationship preferences in just curious. What is the difference between living exes vs dead ones/or rapists that give your mind the greenlight? Not asking for you to justify it or anything just enjoy trynna see other perspectives

Virginity is a social construct, if they don't do that while in the relationship, why would you care?

>>34666215
Making the social construct argument is a social construct. What's your point, caller?

OP... I want to grab you by the throat
and break your skull and rip out your brain
for asking such a dumbass retarded question
kill yourself for debasing women like they're your personal sex slave

>>34666222
As long as the guy is also virgin what's the problem in wanting a virgin girl? Preferences are preferences.

>>34666222
Uh oh lil cucky got angy?

>>34666321
They don't exist. You want a virgin? Become a pedophile and start courting 13 year olds at your local middle school.

>>34662165
How do most men cope with their wives or girlfriends not being virgins?
Uhhhh they don't cause nobody with half a brain gives a shit
What dumb fucking thing to complain about
And there's no "most" you are a very small insignificant minority

>>34666434
You are the other side of the extreme btw

>>34666611
And yet here you are bitching to 4chan about how hard it is to find your virgin concubine

>>34666218
My point is that society tries to evaluate people depending on how many people they have fucked with. In women they valuate them as either holy saints or as whores, in men as either winners or fucking losers. When, in reality, your sex count doesn't represent if a person is an asshole or an actual good lover. It's really stupid if you think about it.

>>34662165
our generation has been systematically sabotaged. focus on creating a better society for the next generation

>>34666649
Huh? Hit a nerve? If men could press a button to make their gf/wife a virgin, would they? Probably

Also, a concubine is just a woman who is in a sexual relationship but isn't protected by the institution of marriage. Concubinage is a "forever girlfriend" or practice-gf who is pumped and dumped over and over so enjoy that I guess because that is the norm.

>>34662165
As a virgin too, I can only assume the people that don't care lack lots of respect:
>Respect for their identity
They're fine being cucks
>Respect for their body
They're content to put their penis in a spot where other men have ejaculated inside
>Respect for their lover
No hymen no diamond - they are content putting their penis into a broken hymen
>Respect for their religion
Religious people have only themselves to blame for their weakness. If they didn't know she wasn't a virgin (or never knows), blame cannot be placed on the man but instead on the deceitful woman.
>Respect for their bloodline
Not applicable to everyone depending on their family's background, but everyone in a standard family had parents, grandparents, etc. Is the man/woman the one to break their family's lineage? This generation is especially dangerous with access to the internet manipulating people's concept of love above traditional definitions.

Of course, there are caveats with rape victims etc.
The above will anger a lot of cucks, but be glad you're still able to respect yourself with all your heart. Lots of people are getting married in their mid-late 30s to women under 30, so this angle is probably the best bet to those comfortable waiting for their one and only.

>>34666871
You're not hitting any nerves. You're an insecure little bitch that can't handle a real woman with real life experiences. So you have to resort to taking advantage of weak inexperienced women for your personal pleasure. You think you're a nice guy, but you're really just a beta predator that's threatened by other men touching your women, who you view as your personal property with no autonomy of their own. You have so little respect for women that instead of valuing them as people, you reduce them down to the value of a sex doll. A product you deem tainted if tampered with by another man. You don't see any human value in a woman. They're just sex slaves to do your bidding. You're a low life piece of shit.

>>34667015
Same goes for you. Low life piece of shit.

It's good that you two remain virgins. You do not deserve the touch of any woman.

>>34662165
by fucking them.
sex havers have the sex and enjoy the sex.
they don't overthink the sex like incels do.

>>34666207
>I just want someone who values sex and relationships as much as I do.
Same. This is why there's a test drive before marriage.

There's a man l met who is: handsome, nice to women, polite, hard working, religious. He didn't have the proper emotional responses during sex so I broke things off. He cried about being raped in the past. I gave him the humane treatment of telling him to leave instead of having to divorce him.

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>>34664823
Do it for 72 virgins

>>34667207
>He didn't have the proper emotional responses during sex so I broke things off.
Oh no, oh heavens no! You're not a virgin anymore! You are of no value to the incels >>34667015 in this thread. You have demonstrated complete and utter disrespect for your body and the sanctity of virginhood. You have destroyed your sacred hymen with another man's filthy disgusting penis. The only value you had as a human being. As a woman. Your hymen. You have no choice now but to kill yourself, for you are completely worthless. No man will ever touch your disgusting defiled body ever again! I'm so sorry!

>>34667328
Well its too bad for these men
>for you are completely worthless
I was born a woman, that's already worthless on day one. The only one who had any foresight was father, who raised a picky succubus to give him halfchad grandsons.

>>34667328
>the sanctity of virginhood
kek

>>34667354
>picky succubus
>halfchad grandsons
double kek

>>34662165
I skeeted on it

>>34667050
>you're not hitting any nerves
>full paragraph meltie
The lady (male) doth protest too much, methinks.

>>34666434
>t.child of slut mommy and cuck daddy
Dying a virgin is honestly a much better fate than that of your father who had to settle down with a prostitute desu

>>34667633
I'm not worried at all.

You'll either die alone from not finding your unicorn virgin woman, that doesn't exist, or you will be skinned alive in prison when you inevitably try to groom innocent young schoolgirls to satisfy your desire for fresh young hymen blood.

I'm fine with either outcome. Though I prefer the latter.

>>34667666
Good. Stay out of the gene pool. Your kind deserves to be eradicated.

this thread turned into a dumpster fire. i didn't think so many people would get pissed at my question. on a side note does anyone know the demographics of this board? might explain some of the responses