>We need another wiser and perhaps more mystical concept of animals. Remote from universal nature and living by complicated artifice, man in civilization surveys the creature through the glass of his knowledge and sees thereby a feather magnified and the whole image in distortion. We patronize them for their incompleteness, for their tragic fate for having taken a form so far below ourselves. And therein we err and greatly err. For the animal shall not be measured by man. In a world older and more complete than ours they move finished and complete, gifted with extensions of the senses we have lost or never attained, living by voices we shall never hear. They are not brethren, they are not underlings, they are other nations, caught with ourselves in the net of life and time, fellow prisoners of the splendour and travail of the earth.fucking deep. many will not understand.
>>4771492People with these romantic notions of nature are retarded. Nature is a fucking meat grinder full of endless suffering.I've seen so many things die painfully, needlessly in miserable suffering.Someone post that video of a komodo dragon tearing apart a pregnant deer and eating the suddenly aware baby deer in front of its eviscerated mother.
>>4771528i can tell by your language and the conclusion you've come to in response to my post that you're not a very smart person thus i will not engage you
>>4771539>i will not engage youYou just did.Anyways people like you are fucking delusional and unfortunately common.Enjoy sucking off your endless cycle of suffering.
>>4771557you are aware that you have misinterpreted me based on the context you surely see yet you decide to dig your heels deeper into your argument and fling stones at a strawman, based on this i can deduce that you are not a very smart person and thus i will not engage you.
>>4771559You just engaged with me again, dummy.Tell me what I misinterpreted then, i criticized the kind of people that would write a passage like that then based on how you responded to that bullshit write-up and how defensive you got I interpreted you as being the exact kind of person who would write and believe in that romantic, spiritualist bullshit.I can tell by the way you speak and your general demeanour that you're a pseudo-intellectual moron, but i am bored so will engage with anybody.
>>4771567i can tell by your defensiveness, excessive use of ad-hominem and desperate need to assign malignant motive to my banal responses that you are not a very smart person thus i will not engage you.
good thread
>>4771570You shall engage with me and we will be engaged.
OH MY GOD!!! They're getting engaged guys!!!
hello sir plz engage
>>4771528> Someone post that video of a komodo dragon tearing apart a pregnant deer and eating the suddenly aware baby deer in front of its eviscerated mother.Pretty sure that was orchestrated by Indonesians I.e. people so not the best exmaple >>4771624>>4771634>>4771640Kek
monkeys are dumb lmao
>>4771528There's sense in it atleast. Komodo dragons had to eat. When the dragons die their bodies become the grass the future deer eat. It's beautiful.
>>4772300hello i am OP, i will now engage.i do not believe that a cycle predicated on death and suffering is beautiful in the slightest, this notion was not the point of my post, i am an antinatalist.much love, goodbye
>>4771528ok rick sanchez
>>4771634this is unironically cute
>>4771634enemies to lovers 30k words slowburn
>>4772342They're just stick figures?
schizophrenia thread
>>4772320>antinatalistonions and cringego back to plebbit
>>4771492>>4771528what if both are right?or neither?What if life is fully formed and perfectly beautiful even with all its horror and pain?What if suffering and the transient nature of pleasure are what makes life beautiful?What if reducing suffering doesn't make life perfect, merely boring and inane?
>>4772358shut up bitch
>>4771528>Destroys an ecosystem with plastic >"Dude, it's just survival of the fittest. *smug smirk*"
>>4772491>What if reducing suffering doesn't make life perfect, merely boring and inane?Fuck people who think like you, seriously.What a fucking awful thing to think.
>>4772491What if I kick you in the balls and then ask you if you still think like this?
>>4772491suffering includes boredom.
>>4772757>suffering includes boredom.stop making me suffer then
>>4772491Suffering does build character, at least
>>4771492All of this is verbose shittery. "Apes" are a lower form because they were manufactured to be so in order to cover up higher form Hominids slightly comparable to ourselves that died off long ago. The author is being sympathetic to a sterotype and stating that the sterotype is not characteristic of itself.
>>4772957if you call PTSD character, then yes
>>4773088I feel like we've protected you from so much suffering in life you now suffer from things others might consider an inconvenience, or even a joke. I don't know though. I don't know your personal suffering. I do know it can probably get much worse.
>>4773088Do you equate ‘suffering’ with tramautic wartime experiences? It doesn’t have to be extreme but some hardship is necessary at some point in everyone’s life
>>4773116hardship is literally only necessary to build the skills to endure more hardship in the future. without hardship there is no need for hardship.
>>4773116A lot of things in nature are as extreme as traumatic wartime experiences.
>>4772491Based
>>4773164Humans are unironically made to suffer. A life without adversity will feel flat and meaningless, happiness can only be fully appreciated when suffering exists as a contrast.
>>4773421>happiness can only be fully appreciated when suffering exists as a contrast.Yup. Same reason you can never really appreciate a sunny day without the occasional rainy one. A balance needs to be struck.
>>4773421feeling unfulfilled because your life is meaningless is a form of suffering. my point stands.
>>4772320I am trans btw
>>4773421>>4773491You don't know what it's like to effortlessly achieve your goals, neither do you know what it's like to truly suffer.
>>4773941Then who does?
>>4771634lmao, cute
>>4772491They are if you believe in certain eastern philosophies. It's like one-way thing though. Our interpretations are only accurate so long as we don't try to project them back onto nature only to see how wrong we were. But if you look for analogs of nature in civilization you find things that are more true. It's easier to look to nature for examples of something rather than looking for rules or meaning of which it has none.
>>4771700>Indonesians I.e. peopleThat's a little bit of a stretch there
>>4776363point taken kek